My definition to try and differentiate them: Ne takes one piece of information and make a lot of ideas out if it Ni takes a lot of information and turn it into one idea
@@HH-hk7nt I haven't passed the official MBTI test but I've took several ones online. I got a few results, from INFP (2 times) to ISFJ (1 time) and INFJ (4 or 5 times) (it might also be due to the fact that, being french and most of the tests being in english, sometimes I don't really understand fully the questions). When reading about the cognitive functions, I think I'm definitely using Fe (feeling the mood of the people group in a room and being quite receptive to it, and I try to help others as much as I can because I'm litteraly happy when others are) and Ti (I have a quite strong internal moral/ethical code even if I rarely express it, usually it's in combination with Fe), but Ni is quite difficult to understand, because if indeed I'm an INFJ I'm always using Ni. I've never really analyse my learning process, but I know that when I'm learning a tough concept to understand in class (I'm a 22 yo student in an engineering school), I try to make abstract links between the different parts of the idea (even with things I already know, often I'm like: "Oh it does resemble another things I read online about...") and I think I try to condense the information into a sort of "map" which only keep the most important information (I totally agree with the "funnel" image). I don't think I understand things in a linear way: I can follow a few class without understanding anything, until a random instant where even a single word makes me grasp the global understanding and then nearly all things become clear (It's also quite a relief to my brain, it seems like it release a form of internal background process which is quite consuming). When the concept is easier generally I don't feel surprised at all (and in my everyday life I'm rarely surprised, because I think I tend to consistantly predict a future situation or event like 75% of the time, I've realized over the years that I'm never completely living the present time) and I understand it instantly. It's quite mysterious but it's interesting thing to try to analyse indeed :D
intuition is the ability to connect dots. the better you can connect them, the more intuitive. it is taking pieces of reality and connecting them in order to come to a conclusion. it's essentially using your past knowledge, experiences and observation to come to conclusions that others may not even be able to understand.
Really deep articulation that clarifies a lot and added an important pieces that will eventually led to the distinct recognition , the epiphany ( aha I understand everything completely an intuitively ) . Thanks for the input mat .
I'm a dominant Ni user (INFJ). I can explain it this way: the amount of information that comes in (patterns, ideas, connections) forms something that looks like the galaxy. Stars, planets, far away from each other. Some connect into shapes, others just float around until I find a random use for them.
It very much looks like a bunch of life experience decidedly designed complexly rotating complex shapes with a bunch of internal connections all over it :}? ENTP
Haha that's exactly the picture I had in my mind when he talked about that one single information that get's added and gives you an insight. Like one new star that appears and suddenly you see a whole picture. 😊
Mariska - yea that definitely applies , id describe it as a cloud, shield and or subjectively decided structure with substructures that have a bunch of information on it in motion “when needed” at the centre of the structures and substructures is a information core and the person using This function will add anything through a filter or not relating too those structures and substructures information core until its so perfected that it will never fail in most cases the main use is for emotion visions but can be used by the other 8 functions . absorptive awareness function
If I had to describe intuition in one word, it would be "Knowing" Also, Ne is objective, Ni is subjective. Ne starts at the big picture and whittles down to the parts. Ni starts at the parts and formulates the big picture. Fast.
Dario Nardi, an award-winning UCLA professor and expert in the field of neuroscience, has this to say about the Ni dominant brain: “The Ni types often show a whole-brain, zen-like pattern. This pattern occurs when all regions of the neocortex are in synch and dominated by brain waves that are medium-low frequency and very high-amplitude….What is this zen state like? When presented with a problem, the Ni types seek to harness all neocortex regions in order to “realize” an answer. Imagine a troop of blind men trying to identify a secret object by touch. One man feels a trunk and says, “tree”; another detects four legs and says “table”; a third feels tusks and says “boar”. Like the blind men, each region offers a different perspective, and a zen-like synchronous state allows the person to reconcile various perspectives to arrive at a best-fit answer (an elephant).”
Although it varies on their current state of mind, if they are going thru emotional upheaval or high stress their balance can slant into other directions giving a different synopsis stuff pig on a spit
Ne in my opinion is more impulsive and addictive. Ne is like a tap to intuition. Ni is patient and becomes wise. Ne is like impulsive and becomes fast. Once an epiphany occurs, its like you want to keep going so you cycle rapidly between Ti and Ne and it is like boom boom boom new ideas and connections and epiphanies.
1.) Updated Videos on this Channel (This video is outdated) 2.) I accidentally said I am a Dominant Ni user when I made this video. At no point did I ever think I was an INTJ or INFJ, it was just a slip.
You misunderstand how the INTP "branching" works. Yes Ti-Ne can take a single object and have it diverge into seemingly endless unrelated ideas but they are all logically consistent and connect with the rest of the branches because theyve been processed through Ti. Its frustrating trying to explain things to people when in this mode of thought but every piece of information has been rigorously scrutinized; its not just random bullshit.
Michael Irwin yes, i call it very short steps in logic. There are a bunch of short steps and all of them are usually logically coherent, and together they form the conclusion which is usually made using ti. If they aren't logically coherent we retrace the steps to see where our system or conclusion goes wrong via si. Its like we live life forming syllogistic interpretations of everything. Of course ne can get off tangent but not really if ti is looking for a serious conclusion. Off tangent ne is more of an entp/enfp thing, because intps harness ne to help our ti conclusions.
Very good explanation, and I had the same reaction during that part of his lecture, but at the same time he definitely seems to understand this already. I think when he described these branches as being unrelated, it was to communicate the bizarre nature of Ne from an outside perspective, where seemingly unrelated ideas are strung together through unexpected similarities which are often poorly expressed but nonetheless evident
Well I can make the intuitive leaps of what he is trying to say, as a saying goes if it red but you are red green colorblind you make the best effort you can to describe the color which makes no sense unless you are red green colorblind
Interesting vid...thank you. For the best descriptions and definitions of what Ne and Ni are, people should go straight to Carl Jung, who created the terms. He had some really in-depth, clear ways of explaining it. Of course, others have built on his ideas from there, but he did, indeed, offer clear ideas about what he meant, with examples. (If you want to be fascinated, search youtube for "carl jung introverted intuition." There is rare footage of him explaining it.)
I love how this guy explains things. My auxiliary cognitive function is Ne (I'm an INFP) and I can definitely see how I can get very creative and I tend to go here and there. Ni seems to be more focused. Oh, Damon always gets so excited about all these concepts. Great teacher. Go watch his videos and maybe go to his site(s) for one of his services to grow as a person, or whatever you need his knowledge/wisdom for.
Love your videos man... Love your Ni explanation- Flashes of Insight. I've called my experience with Ni as flashes as well- subjective associations with items. And the "House" explanation is awesome as well, too. You should do a Si/Se video.
Ni has really baffled me for quite awhile but the explanation you used with House really cleared it up. I found that show fascinating but I never related to his thought processes at all which makes sense now. He really would literally walk out of the room once someone said something to trigger the solution in his mind. My mum (ESTJ) and brother (ENTP) and I (INFP) have Ne so we're all on the same wavelength in this area, even though our types and judging functions are all over the place. I find that I have a lot of Ne users in my life and there's really only one or two friends I have that are Ni users - it's fun to brainstorm with the Ne users and to kind of enjoy talking about possibilities but you really do need to consult with Ni users to refine ideas and to find faults in them - they offer a fresh perspective for the Ne user and I assume Ne users do the same for Ni users.
In my experience Ne is expansive, Ni wants to zero in. Take the idea of a flow chart. Ne will keep expanding and Ni will see to bring the flow chart back to a singular point. Ni creates the varying future possibilities only to focus it into the most plausible. Ne doesn't want to stop the expansion. This is how my mind understands it at any rate.
You are incredibly smart and insightful and an absolute joy to watch. I'm a mad fan of mbti, and have studied it extremely in depth, and I continue to be impressed by your natural understanding, especially when you don't seem to understand the underlying mechanism of why what you're observing is the way it is. And I don't mean that to be condescending, only that, unlike myself, you're able to arrive at highly accurate descriptions without first identifying that underlying structure, and I find it highly impressive and in many ways relaxing. I am an ENTP, by the way, if you're curious
Ni is knowing what you'll do in your 5 to 30 years ahead... is "predicting" (as in creating) your own future, whereas Ne is about understanding the future of humanity so to speak, the future of others... "how things will unfold"
Subjectively, Ni feels like this : You go about your day, then notice two unrelated things, your mind shows you a big bang theory like generic with relevant associated pictures in under 0.4 seconds. It goes : *click* I know what is going on or I have an idea.
As an Ne dominant too (with Ti aux), I can tell you that my Ni works like chaos detector. It gives me a hunch of problem in the future, like a very bad feeling about a thing/person/situation/whatever, and if I took on that hunch and I created a plan to prevent it, that's when I activate my unconscious NiTe accessing my INTJ shadow. My Ni is very strong when I experience very very strong emotion. Which is rare for an ENTP, our baseline is generally very excited-neutral-skeptic-optimist mixup. So whenever a rare Fi moment occur, it activated my Ni, I can foresee only 1 path in days or even months. I can not access Ne during that period. Having a very strong emotion prevent me from branching out. But when I'm back into my baseline emotions, Ni gone and Ne overflows in seconds, with unlimited exciting possibilities. All the time. Crazy.
Ne - Divergent Thinking Ni - Convergent Thinking For a brief description I hope this makes sense. Intuition seems to be pattern recognition. When it occurs subconsciously it can seem unexplainable.
Again, you have described a very immature INTP. Sure we do the branching, but there is usually a reason for it. I, for instance, engage in this branching so I can gain information to do work on. Branching allows for ideas and connections between them to become readily accessible so that it is easier for me to perform analysis. Analysis and synthesis are always the end goal.
+Chad Crandall did you actually read his comment? He did not say or even imply that you said Ne was a terrible function. He said that the example you used (your friend and the batmobile, and the boxing ring) was a very immature INTP. I find it very irritating that you responded to a comment that he didn't make.
+Chad Crandall Its irrelevant anyway since I've recently realized that I'm actually an INFJ. That fact that I'm a mathematician confused the matter for me; since mathematicians use Ti and Ne A LOT. Ni comes to me more naturally than Ne. Ne is incredibly draining and unfocused for me.
+HitomiAyumu Ha, glad I am not alone! I am an INFJ too, started PhD in math last month. I agree, math uses a lot of Ti and Ne, especially Ti. Not sure about applied math since I am not on that side, but in pure math Ti, Ti everywhere, at least in the way ideas are presented. Ti at least we have in the #3 spot so it isn't as bad but Ne, more of a challenge. On a different note: Tim Gowers's essay on two cultures of (pure) mathematics describes problem solvers and theory builders. Theory builders, definitely strong Ti tendency; I believe there may be more room for Ni for problem solvers but I haven't thought this through enough yet.
I used the branching out skill in trouble shooting, approach the problem from many angles, then use experience to isolate common issues, if none then the real fun begins.
Recognizing patterns and relationships between the dynamics of objects and people. Probably the quickest way I can describe Ni. -INFJ. This also relates to all past experiences of its usage and patterns between them. This gives an accurate prediction of events and an understanding of the world completely void of objective facts. More of a dream world built inside the mind (Ni dominant) containing the physics and rules observed in every day reality. Feels as if you can alter time (or your perception of it) when heavily using intuition as well, connecting points and ideas across time and relating them to the present and future.
+CrimsonHazmat (INTJ) Yes! Exactly. Do you feel that your Ni (or atleast the "tip of the ice berg" of Ni that is conscious, is like lots of images flashing by of the world, but not only in present, but also future and past visualisations? I know that's basically what you said but essentially; does your Ni consist of images and vivid flashes, through your minds eye?
An example of an Ni thought process probably goes like this: 1. Object A becomes stored in memory 2. Object B becomes stored in memory, triggering intuitive connection between A and B (Connection 1) 3. Object C becomes stored in memory, triggering intuitive connection between A and B on the one hand and C on the other. Does Connection 1 work with C? 3.1 Yes --> A, B and C become linked together; Connection 1 is the common thread 3.2 No --> is there a way to reconcile Connection 1 with C? 3.2.1 Yes --> Connection 1 is revised to be the common thread; A, B and C become linked together 3.2.2 No --> C is treated as an incident distinct from A and B. Where is the distinction? For Ni, there is only one principle (Connection 1) throughout the process. All incidents are abstracted to refine that one principle. The scope is narrow and focused. The end product is a simple rule that is readily applicable. I am not an Ne user. But from what has been described in the video, it seems like in the mind map of an Ne user, only neighbors in a tree are connected by a commonality. There is not necessarily one principle to rule them all. The scope is broad and expansive. The end product is a tree of interconnected objects and cannot be readily applied.
I've been doing the Myers-Briggs test for a few years now and every time I get INFJ. Looking back, I can say I was very underdeveloped until a few years ago in that I sensed certain things, I instinctively knew what I had to do, but I was completely unaware as to how I reached those conclusions and I distrusted them so I did nothing. But I think I've evolved now into connecting Ni with Ti so I see patterns quite easily most of the time. I'm very thankful that there are people like you out there who take the time to observe, research and sum up all this information! It helps me understand that I'm not as empty as I've felt most of my life.
What you said around 5:25 was interesting and fits my Ti model of understanding. I often say that Ni focuses on the most likely future outcome and tries to fend off any superfluous information they deem irrelevant to try and stay on that course. Ne is always thinking about all possible future outcomes regardless of probability (at least initially) until using quick logic to discard a few. That process is taken less seriously than an Ni user would take it. Ex: Ne user: immediately thinking of 6 future possibilities and then quickly discarding 3 because you remembered a piece of information that negates the likelihood of that, but still holding space for 3 outcomes without stressing about choosing the right one because there isn't a personal attachment to perceiving it correctly. Ni actively rejects information and the more Se exposure they can draw from the better they are at doing this without specific personal experiences- if that makes sense.
Ne is amazing and at the same time kind of scary😂, every answer brings up five new question, every possibility leads to five other possibilities, it is endless. I do not really relate to the example about that guy who walks bent. Idk about other Ne people, but i related more to what you said about Ni in this cas. I may quickly have a feeling about it, because of my experience, but then I think of other possibilities.
I think that Ni dominant types (I say this as an INFJ) are actually quite good at using Ne use it much like an INTP does but it's done as a way to help Ti and and to fuel the Ni database. Ni is very much so preferred to Ne because Ni doms and the whole point behind using Ne is to try and come up with possibilities which might contradict something that we've affirmed within our own minds. I particularly don't see the point of coming up with ideas and possibilities just for the sake of doing it (for entertainment perhaps) and although, yes, it can be interesting to do I mostly only like how Ne dominant types are able to come up with completely outlandish ideas that actually would make sense and that I could see happening. I think that it takes an Ni dominant type to actually be able to see Ne for it's worth rather than it's weight. Ni doms have no problem using Ne but it can purposefully block out certain types, often lots of types, of ideas because of what it would take to arrive at such an idea--in other words it drains us too much to contemplate the implications that Ne so easily dismisses. Ne doms don't think about ideas a we do they simply like to ponder on what could be without necessarily attaching themselves to those ideas, probably because it's a form of entertainment for them to do so. Ni doms can't help but see the entire idea and see why it wouldn't work. Ne somehow can come up with ways to show us how we are wrong, which is something I find very interesting.
Wow I never had someone put this into words. I’m a ENFJ but the Fe was suppressed most of my life so after watching this I realized I used Ni to navigate life. Thanks!
Dominant Extroverted Intuitive here. I loved your explanation of Introverted Intuitive. It is mind blowing to me. I cannot comprehend how you could think like that, which is how you described your inability to comprehend extroverted intuition. It is crazy how 2 brains can work in completely different ways to come up with a solution to the same problem.
The perceiving functions just generally get the shaft with the descriptions - usually the S ones will be too simplistic and the N ones too nebulous. Maybe because to describe it, you'd have to perceive perception and you'd get into the whole clusterfuck of self-referential systems.
Hey Chad, ENFP here. Liked this video a lot (referred to me by my ENFJ friend that you Skyped a few weeks ago). I'd love to talk to you more about the mysteries of Ne sometime. To add to your description of Ne, it works best when we use phantom Ni too. We think about how the sensing things we take in and observe would "theoretically work" in other cases, maybe by taking a statistical sample. But then Ne for me is also I try to see or imagine the "opposite" of what's in front of me. The opposite phenomenon means that if one person says this, therefore I can assume they don't also believe this. Two things can't coexist. (Right?) When it comes to beliefs, or like, events. That's how I trace and map out my reality: dealing in "if I know what the opposite of something is, I'll have all bases of a perception covered. Yes. Good good." BUT of course that's not always true. Someone can both fear and love someone, someone can both be annoyed by but respect someone. My biggest fear is not knowing what else in a perception I could be missing. But cause extroverted judging is not my strong suit, as an Ne dom, I find myself constantly battling with reality and trying to interpret the intricacies of what I can pick on, but am unable to understand. I can't always 100% logically assess what can coexist and what can't. Ergo, I highly resent being unable to come to any conclusions, because a lot of Ni users (not you necessarily, but definitely others) think that Ne sounds fun. But to me, it's exhausting knowing that my reality constantly shifts. I may believe something tomorrow, but new information can cloud it and make me have to change my mind. If someone were to tell me something, I can never discern if it's a malleable Te fact or a Ti truth. If that Te/Ti conclusion makes remote sense, I'll accept it as a constant, and then if i'm proven wrong, I'll get scared and have to scramble to replay when I was told that to see if there was something I missed in my original perception. Si becomes like TiVo, where i can replay (sometimes verbatim conservations and sequences of events in exact form) as many episodes of events in my life as i want. but unlike tv show episodes that stay the same no matter how many times you watch them, i'm going to read something different out of an incident each time based on my shifting Ti. My sense of truth can literally make me rewrite reality multiple times if conflicting info comes in. So I resort to constantly playing in the realm of Ne and Si, searching for something that can consistently make sense, cause Si wants to deal in absolutes that don't change over time. But all I crave in life is being able to make a solid conclusion about something... but even if it presented itself to me it's not necessarily going to stick cause my Ne has been conditioned over time to be scared of banking on anything. TL;DR - really wanna Skype sometime.
I'm so thrilled by this explanation fucking hell , well done! My personal conclusion, yes I can elaborate: Ne is the ability to be aware of all external possibilities based on life experiences. Ni is the ability to be aware of all internal possibilities based on life experiences. Ne is trying to figure out through external connections , theories , idea's, "everything external" for every single possibility it can be aware of based on life experiences but more so extroverted ones. Ni is trying to figure out through internal connections , theories, idea's "everything internal" for every single possibility it can be aware of based on life experiences but more so introverted ones. I could go deeper ;P -ENTP
Interesting video. I like how you mentioned needing Ne to blur out ideas for us to Ni our way to a goal. The same concept can be applied to Fe and Fi. We Fe users got to share our definite logical Ti conclusions (especially ISTP) for you Fi users to come up with the best emotionally pleasing decision for yourselves. -ENFJ
I like what you said about being around interesting people. As an INTJ, I am only as interesting as the people around me. Certain people stimulate my Ni more than others. That is why I think it is important for Ni users to surround themselves with creative people. Look at Steve Jobs. He was definitely an Ni user. You can see in multiple interviews how he talks about finding the most creative people to work with. He would avoid process thinking types.
Hi Chad, I'm binging your video one a time. I can see here that you are infact, ENTJ, I thought you might be an Ti user on the other video. Anyway just wanna share I like you, I like your videos, your vision with TG. In regards to this video, as a Ne dominant (with Ti aux), my Ni works like chaos detector. It gives me a hunch of problem in the future, like a very bad feeling about a thing/person/situation/whatever, and if I took on that hunch and I created a plan to prevent it, that's when I activate my unconscious NiTe accessing my INTJ shadow. My Ni effortlessly surfaces when I experience very very strong emotion. Which is rare for an ENTP, our baseline is generally very excited-neutral-skeptic-optimist mixup. So whenever a rare Fi moment occur, it activated my Ni, I can foresee only a certain solid path in days or even months, crazy. I can not access Ne during that period. Having a very strong emotion prevent me from branching out. But when I'm back into my baseline emotions, Ni gone and Ne overflows in seconds, with unlimited exciting possibilities. All the time.
Chad,I feel like I have Ti to map out Ni. That may seem crazy,but it fits in the multiple cognitive tests I have taken. It fits in how I value the description of Ti (I also value Ni,Te,score high in Ne,but don't really value it) and it fits in how I notice the change (when alone) between Ti and Te. Ti is quiet thinking,but I literally start taking to myself as if I am trying to convince someone with Te. I really appreciate your videos because it helps me to understand my Ni "knowings". What I mean by that is Ni knowings need no words,symbols,details.... It's like knowing in an instant an entire complex (I have no word for what I am trying to convey),so I will say "system",but really it could be a complex anything (if that makes sense). Basically you get what you focus on and it feels like the subconscious gives the conscious mind a quick peek from it's own perspective (unconscious and unbiased). What I consciously notice when I get these peeks into the subconscious is that I start to deconstruct(the big picture) to see if things fit reality,but it is short lived because everything seems to fit perfectly. Much of what I know (understand,whatever you want to call it) I know intuitively. It seems so easy to grasp the concept which comes from Ni(I don't need to think or do anything),but if I wan't to explain to others,I need to deconstruct it into words and much (most) will be lost in translation. No other topic leaves me for such a loss of words to explain it than Ni does. It stands to reason because Ni isn't about words,rather it is a biological pattern recognition machine. Ni by itself would serve no other purpose than recognizing the difference between a tiger in the grass,or the wind causing the grass to move. I think it is a primitive brain function that all animals use (maybe it is Ne,but it is clearly intuition). Humans are considered pattern recondition animals and I believe all people have the self preservational aspects of Ni (Ne),but for intuition to shine it need a filter (Te,Ti) to limit the pattern recognition data base to things that match the real outer world. Most people see patterns,but much of those patterns are fake patterns. Ni works from the data base at hand (the contents of the brain),so if an Ni dom doesn't have a keen counterpart (Te,Ti) to make sure the info matches reality,then Ni "knowings" will be out to lunch. During my 20's I was every bit as confident with my Ni incite,but it was nowhere near as accurate. The power of Ni is clearly proportional to the depth and accuracy of the knowledge in the data base (brain). 20 year old INTJs need smart friends to prove them wrong. In my 20's I would seek info from authority figures whom I deemed worthy,but now in my 40's I am the epitome of a constructivist. I simply take in information and come to my own conclusions.I attribute this to Ti somehow creeping into the picture and maybe NE as well (because I test very high in Ne). My Ni tangents never end (everything is ultimately connected,because everything is from the universe),so I stop now. Don't look to the "experts" to understand Ni,go to the source.This is Ni in action. Most (50%)INTJs are type 5 Ennagram (I noticed the "50%" contradiction, half isn't most and I am mentioning it to give you my perspective of thought) and 30% are the stereotypical type 1 INTJ. I tried to keep Te out of it,but I don't even know what I am trying to convey now. You know how you mentioned how INTPs go off on tangents, that is nothing compared to if I let my mind lose. Most INTJs aren't going to give you much info ("my personal life is none of your fucking business"),but on an anonymous forum I am free to let it ride. I want to give back to those like you (extroverts willing to put themselves on a public stage)who help me understand them. I understood what you meant when you said you were a "dominant Ni user", because it is all about context for me. I seen it as you meaning dominant Ni over Ne.
Interestingly I am an INTJ but I can relate to both types of intuition your talking about. Great example was in one of my English classes in college we had a choice of about 15 topics to write about. I felt that was too easy. So I branched each topic together and wrote a story incorporating all of them. I felt at the time that this was the way everyone thought and people were just being lazy. However, as far as the having a flash of an idea I get that a lot. If it's something complicated that I have been thinking about (usually for my business) it kind of just comes to me later when my mind is not even thinking about it. Was working on different ways to advertise new products. Gave it much thought and still wasn't satisfied. 3 days later I was doing am cardio on treadmill listening to music and it hit me. Got off treadmill and wrote it all out right there. Called wife after I was so excited. She is ESFJ so she had no interest in it all but I felt like talking it out to get her input.
Good job understanding House, indeed. Always shocking that anyone types House any differently than NTJ. Also, when he describes the microscopic physical processes - AND ALSO comes up with a metaphor describing that same process alongside the process… Definitely Ni.
Gregory House is INTJ. By my understanding of personality types ENTJ have a big Ne. Its just not in awareness of the user, not something you can command consciously. Its also not valued, but its there. -INTP
Many, but not all, characteristics of intuition can be logically explained. It's just so subconscious that the user has to become conscious of its step-by-step processing (which can take place in the speed of a synapse) and reasoning. However, language is so un-evolved that it makes the process that much more complicated to explain to an incomprehensive person processing with their own logic but without that cognition to understand.
Quite an interesting and insightful video. I'm an Ne-aux user but I think I use Ni to an extent. I can relate to what you said about forming conclusions based on subjective experience (e.g. I know people who are hunched like that and they are like this or like that so possibly this guy is the same). There are some things you've mentioned about how Ne works which are kinda off but understandable as you're not an Ne user. Still, given that I use Ni to some extent, I can't seem to get a grasp on it. I've been researching stuff about Ni just to see how it works (because it really boggles my mind and would want to know/practice it) without devaluing other cognitive functions when using them as comparisons. So would love to see an update (more insights about Ni) with regards to this video (as you mentioned on a reply to one of the comments here).
I'm watching this video precisely because I just cannot define intuition and it bothers me as a Ni-dominant. I read Jungs book and see his definition, and so many other definitions but none of them is spot-on. I think your explanations of "insights" is quite good. I usually explain Ni as a spiritual function, because that's what I believe it to be at its fundamental essence. An unconscious type of "sight" or perception which allows for sight of that which isn't physical, thus metaphysical. I think a lot of people who explain Ni are really confusing it with Ti, and that's the biggest problem in understanding Ni.
I find it easier to understand intuition through its yin/yang function sensing. As an Ni/Se user I experience and see the stars in the external world which goes into my Ni and makes constellations of the aforementioned stars in my mind creating a flow between the present experience (Se) and the vision of where it is all going in the future (Ni.) Ne in my observation makes the connections externally and filters through past patterns, routines, and internal experiences. (Si)
I noticed you kept saying that with Ni dominant the object leaves a subjective impression on the subject which leads to their inner perceptions. Wouldn't it be Se, rather than Si, that supplies the data to later be constellated into an Ni image, since Se is the inferior function for an Ni dominant type?
wow! great explanation! I'm into, my dad's an empty, so our relationship has always been weirdly scrambled, lol. our i.q.'s are similar, yet one of us always trading off being the idiot! this helps me understand him a bit more.
What you are describing as Ne sounds like Se not Ne. Could you make an example that doesn't use simple objects? I liked the example you gave towards the end of the video with the hunched over guy. Better.
elsa Grace ne and se are similar as they are both external perceiving functions. They both rely on the external environment for the information, and some interpretations they both like to see impact on the external environment. The difference is the se is about the immediate physical information and ne is about the idea/connection that the object forms in the mind. So while ne is best used when looking at the external environment, it can still be used when not looking at the objects directly via si. Si stores the picture of the idea in the head and ne can interpret the idea and connect stored data to form new ideas. But again its easier to use ne when the ideas are right in front of you.
Enfp here. And you’re right about INTPs. We were talking about covid and suddenly she linked to Trump, and from Trump to Biden, and from Biden to Malaysian ministers, and from Malaysian ministers to election, and from election to vaccination, and from vaccination to conspiracy, and from conspiracy to the best movie about conspiracy. Then lo behold we were then talking about Netflix. And the movie reminded her about mother and what compassion means in life. And it all started from Covid for heaven sake. I mean, i am an Ne dominant user and hers is auxiliary, but why I think she’s nuts.
I thought this video was really interesting. It seems that I am an NE user and as such, I have a comment about how NE works. NE pulls a multitude of thoughts and memories from the subconscious and reconstructs them into a new creative output, such as a song or piece of writing. SI is used in tandem with NE to organize the creative output into a specific form that works for the composition. From what I understand (and correct me if I am wrong), NI (in tandem with SE) observes a multitude of specific details about a person or situation and interprets them in order to reach an understanding of what lies beneath the surface of the person's thoughts or feelings, or of the the situation and how it will play out.
well, does it mean anything if you use your Ne and Ni almost like equally? bc i think i use both quite frequently ( my Ni is just a tad bit higher than my Ne )
Yes, That sound about right... Ti & Ne is my best friend, Hahahaha! I love the branch concept it worx 4 m3... Every thought can be manifested in to reality.
The secret no one actually says is mind mapping is nothing more than a visual representation of a regression model. It’s math. Some phenomena y is a function of x1+x2+x3. If you were going to mind map it, you’d put y in the center and then branch off x1, x2 and x3 Then of course you could take x1 and make it y and do the whole thing all over again to infinity if necessary. If you’ve ever taken economics or statistics, it’s pretty much that. The “variance” in the phenomenon can be “explained” to a degree by the variables... If you can find gummy bears are correlated to snowfall, then so be it. There will be a regression model somewhere that says to buy stock in candy companies that make gummy bears when heavy winters are expected Even at a more granular level of detail, the linking of ideas is a form of math, too. It’s relational algebra Thus, INTPs are naturally adept at mathematics or at least mathematical models. Just like if you wanted to predict a binary response of Y/N of someone being an INTP (y) INTP = Presence of mind maps + some other variable + some other variable etc
I tend to attract Ne users, they’re pretty magical but actually trying to converse is sometimes really hard, Not that I can’t keep up or imagine or see where they are going, but because I’d prefer to come back to point and find at least a semi conclusive answer. I’m okay with navigating from topic but within a boundary line, it’s like the topic at hand is dead center and I can talk around it, spinning until I come back to center, while Ne is more like splattered paint, or spiders web within a web. Like when you get your vacuum cord all tangled up haha. I agree that the intuitive cognitive functions are very hard to put in human words. Love your microscope analogy by the way!
So I'm not super familiar with House, but I'm probably going to disagree with you. I'm currently watching a detective show called Endeavour, and the main guy wanders around collecting all this information, and then suddenly someone will say something, or he'll see something, and it reminds him of one of the bits he has previously encountered and stuff locks into place. I think one thing making you think of another thing in a different context is Ne.
Sanket Borkar ne doesnt connect to the user. It connects external parts with external parts. Its like building a machine, there are so many parts and possibilities its hard to see one as more likely than others. With ni, its connecting those parts to the self and only certain parts will fit as the self is already established. So only certain possibilities are open to them, and the more parts they pull in the less possibilities they are concerned with, narrowing them down to one potential possibility that they work hard to achieve via an external judging function. To them this ni big picture is the truth, even if its subjective. To us we dont know because we arent storing these intuitions as one big idea, were just using it as we go along. Ne uses si to store data and narrow down choices. Ni uses se to bring in data and store it. At least thats how i understand it
I looooooved that show House! ...and I have that same experience often! (I think that's one of the reasons I like the show so much) I was hoping this video would help me determine whether I'm an INFP or an INFJ, and because INFP has Ne, the obvious conclusion would be to assume I'm an INFJ (assuming I've ruled all other types out), but I'm really good at reading people's "states" in a split second....and it just comes immediately....little if any thinking involved....which, by your description, suggests Ne....but could that be Ni at work.... based on a lifetime of paying attention to the minute changes in people's expressions AND because of the Fe of INFP? Grrrr...I keep thinking I'm going to narrow this down and I'm just going deeper into the rabbit hole. Maybe, like House, I need to say "screw it!" and just wait for the answer to come to me in a flash of insight....but (and this may be telling to you or anyone who understands MBTI better than I do) I'm taking in tons of videos, "kind of" for that exact reason. I take in as much information as possible until the answer I'm looking for just "comes to me". (That would suggest NI, would it not?) O.k. enough for today..... :l By the way, Thanks for the videos. You're very likeable...You remind me a bit of my bro who I believe is also an ENTJ.
You seems like an Ne user. Idk but somehow I can tell if someone is an Ne/Ni user based on the way of their writing, if that make sense lol. Anyway INFPs have Ni critic (6th function) which mean they are quite good in Ni. So technically they can use both Ne and Ni, while INFJ can use both Fe and Fi bcs Fi is their critic. The important part to differentiate them are Ne and Fe. If you feel confused wether you're an Ni/Ne user, you are more likely to be an INFP. Normally, INFJ have no problem in deciding that (because they use Ni all the time) but instead they will be more likely to feel confused between Fi and Fe that make them thought they were INFP. Well you should go search about the 6th function if you want to know more about it.
Its also quite cool for you, since its your auxillary and therefore a bit more easily separated from the all dominating Te that you have. I'm an ENTP so, yeah thats not too easy for me.
Hey Chad - great video. You really nailed the observable characteristics and behavior of Ne and Ni quite well. I'm just a little confused - you stated near the beginning of the clip that you are an ENTJ. But then later on at various times, you go on to state that you are an Ni-dom (intj or infj). Which are you?
Intuition = The ability and lust to draw conclusions despite having too little information to prove it. In other words people with intution are better at seeing where something will end up then others. Persons with extroverted intution will focus on the outer world and how the information they get from it can become new solutions or things. They feel comfortable creating new ideas based on what they observe in the world. They are are also good at seeing connections between very different things and therefore good at thinking "broadly" - seeing how things correlate with eachother. As a person with introverted intution you collect what you observe in the outher world and use that to "zoom in" a specifik problem and understand the solution as in contrast with those with extroverted intuition that "zooms out" to se how that specifik thing fits with other things. If I would attempt, as clearly and easily as possible, to describe the difference between having a function beeing introverted and having it being extroverted is to use numbers. Introverted function would symbolize the number 1 and extraverted function would symbolize infiniti. That means that those that use introverted intution are good at more fully understand a problem or think of the solution to a specifik problem without enough information to prove it. They can understand a specifik problem better by hearing other problems, solutions and so on. Those other things triggering that understanding. In other words, their intuition allows them to understand one thing by understanding or hearing about other things. Those with extroverted intuition use their intuition to look at multiple things at the same time, with the intent of understand how different things go together. They have the abilty to understand the solution of many things by understanding the solution of one different thing. So people with extraverted intution start with understanding one thing and using it to understand many other things. On the other hand those with introverted intuition start with understanding many things and using that to understand one other thing. In that way those who use introverted intuition, taking into account many separate things to understand one specifik thing, is often considered as more analytical and focused when those with extroverted intuition, that thru their intuition taking one fact to understand many other things, are generally considered to be more dopey and absentminded. // I am still learing about all the different aspects of personality types, so do not take what I say as the universal truth. But being an ENTP I believe i am good at understanding complex things and explaining them in a new and simpler way. :)
I was told that 97% of my mental energy was directed at Ni when I took the myers briggs test. I originally thought that Ni was taking in information into the subconscious (I.e. having the answers without conscious thought..and therefore not being able to explain why)..so I was upset (naturally). but this video changed my opinion :)
Extroverted intuition seeks to expand on ideas, possibilities and concepts. Introverted intuition seeks to narrow down ideas, possibilities and concepts to one idea, possibility or concept.
Great explanation! Ne-dom, here (ENTP). I've never been able to understand Ni, but I have many close friends who are Ni users. Where do you get your MBTI info from? I'd also be interested in Skyping about MBTI, if you're interested.
It's the hardest one to explain but also the most fascinating I find. Intuition used in one way has a divergent bent; the other, convergent bent. Definitely agree one of the commenters' view. My SO (like myself) is also an INFJ (well, she scores INTJ in some tests, but IN_J remain invariant throughout; my bet is on INFJ). So she has flashes of insights on how people are like, and for the most part they are proved to be true. ("How do you know?" (later) "I told you~") Convergent/singular bent + support by an extraverted judging function make it sound like she's passing on judgement, but she really isn't. She's not voicing out her insights as often nowadays because people around her accuse her of being judgemental. :( When I told her about Ni+Je combination she could strongly relate to all that, not surprisingly.
Intuition is that part of your subconsious mind that is constantly blending concepts. When they make a link your brain goes like 'EUREKA'. So yes it feels magical, but mostly because it is part of your brain that is not easily accesed.
I'm really confused between these two. But somewhere while listening it hit me that actually I had some of those situations. Or at least I think it was it. For ex. I was watching a film, it was some sort of comedy, and the character(white woman) was getting married with a black guy, and the plot was that they were against it etc, and I thought that hey, I could become wedding organizator and I could offer multicultural weddings, you know, with traditions from both sides etc. It had nothing to do with what was being said in a movie, it just happened
Could someone please explain the difference between Se and Ni working together as to just Si perceiving and comparing to past experiences, I feel like they're kind of the same thing and this confusion has made determining my type extremely difficult.
I've come to the understanding that I'm mostly comfortable with Fi and Te, but I just CAN'T distinguish whether I'm Si/Se or Ni/Ne because with the information I currently have I feel like I use both, pretty much as often as each other and drift to either one depending on the matter at hand. HELP!
You have to remember Leo we use all functions, so a great way to figure out your type is to focus on your first two preferred functions while focusing on your preferences of intro and extraversion, perceiving and judging. Another route you can take is working with Damon, our Certified practitioner to figure out not only your type but your facts and preferences. -Daniel myersbricks.com/coaches/
The INTP example of Ne is really good! I would say a lot of people can branch off while they talk and this is not indicative of Ne dominance or Ne over Ni. Your explanation of Ni is vague here and it's not subjective interpretation but I do understand what you are trying to say. Ni symbolism is objective and can be interpreted by others.
May I do two generell (for all of MBTV) suggestions? 1.) use more the words - Introverted Intuition and Extroverted Intuition and less abbreviations. For non native speaker its sometimes hard to follow you. 2.) Post your Notes so people also can read while hearing your voice. (for more visual focused people)
This video is way way way too old. Please see the updated versions of these videos. There is also an Se video and an Si video which contrasts the differences.
I JUST OBSERVED dat Ni doms like yourself like frown upon ne doms like myself entp you should look at ne doms like think upon debugging or finding syntax error while coding they run errors through them like 3 different computer screens running a code and one of them debugs the code its simple "hit and trial method" though branching of ideas is a representation of our thoughts but its just a representation not understanding
nish K I personally love Ne doms but in the words of The Dread Pirate Robert's "You truly have a dizzying intellect." It is a wonderful thing to watch though.
nish K I rather enjoy it personally. It just isn't one of my skills. I feel at this point you're either trolling or picking out what you want so there isn't much more I can say here. I respect all functions and types and I'm not one to belittle anyone for their uniqueness. I'm sorry you feel you're being attacked but may I suggest understanding what makes you beautiful and that is the ability to see what others can't. Have a great day.
8;25 i disagree a bit, its not all about objects in the outer world for me , i just literally link stuff to all other stuff im thinking at , im entp i would describe it like this; my adhd mind is always wondering about a ton of stuff, for example; im thinking about philosophy and suddenly i walk around and i see a picture with a galaxy on it, suddenly i think about how it would be to explain philosophy in correlation with the stars etc its always about how i see 1 point in my environment and links me to something im thinking about or someting Si i remember, its trying to connect the whole time, the more creative the crazier the connections, if the scheme of the scientific paper was yellow it can remind me of the yellow gummibear i ate yesterday etc and that leads to well how would it be if the scientific paper was made of gummi etc etc its like; how am i going to do this new thing, i look around me and start to link everthing like a big statistical correlator to make links, super random, most of them funny but not usefull, but if its funny and new why dont follow this exciting new track i made , and before you know it you actually have something new super cool out of the box crazy thing
My definition to try and differentiate them:
Ne takes one piece of information and make a lot of ideas out if it
Ni takes a lot of information and turn it into one idea
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Which guy, Skiffmin Wiffmin ?
Skiffmin Wiffmin: I should I seen that one coming. = )
Trolle Trollkarl Sort of interestingly counterintuitive that the one with lots of ideas (which are internal) is the extraverted one.
I think that Ni is about analysis ( deconstructing ) and Ne is about creativity reconstruction
To a certain extent, yes, i think.
@@HH-hk7nt I haven't passed the official MBTI test but I've took several ones online. I got a few results, from INFP (2 times) to ISFJ (1 time) and INFJ (4 or 5 times) (it might also be due to the fact that, being french and most of the tests being in english, sometimes I don't really understand fully the questions). When reading about the cognitive functions, I think I'm definitely using Fe (feeling the mood of the people group in a room and being quite receptive to it, and I try to help others as much as I can because I'm litteraly happy when others are) and Ti (I have a quite strong internal moral/ethical code even if I rarely express it, usually it's in combination with Fe), but Ni is quite difficult to understand, because if indeed I'm an INFJ I'm always using Ni.
I've never really analyse my learning process, but I know that when I'm learning a tough concept to understand in class (I'm a 22 yo student in an engineering school), I try to make abstract links between the different parts of the idea (even with things I already know, often I'm like: "Oh it does resemble another things I read online about...") and I think I try to condense the information into a sort of "map" which only keep the most important information (I totally agree with the "funnel" image). I don't think I understand things in a linear way: I can follow a few class without understanding anything, until a random instant where even a single word makes me grasp the global understanding and then nearly all things become clear (It's also quite a relief to my brain, it seems like it release a form of internal background process which is quite consuming).
When the concept is easier generally I don't feel surprised at all (and in my everyday life I'm rarely surprised, because I think I tend to consistantly predict a future situation or event like 75% of the time, I've realized over the years that I'm never completely living the present time) and I understand it instantly.
It's quite mysterious but it's interesting thing to try to analyse indeed :D
As an Ne user, I struggle to understand Ni, but you did a good job describing both of them.
As Ne user, I find this vid so looooooong that I need to speed it up to 1.5x and still wasn't able to finish watching
intuition is the ability to connect dots. the better you can connect them, the more intuitive. it is taking pieces of reality and connecting them in order to come to a conclusion. it's essentially using your past knowledge, experiences and observation to come to conclusions that others may not even be able to understand.
That's Ni
Really deep articulation that clarifies a lot and added an important pieces that will eventually led to the distinct recognition , the epiphany ( aha I understand everything completely an intuitively ) .
Thanks for the input mat .
I'm a dominant Ni user (INFJ). I can explain it this way: the amount of information that comes in (patterns, ideas, connections) forms something that looks like the galaxy. Stars, planets, far away from each other. Some connect into shapes, others just float around until I find a random use for them.
hi enfp is here :)
It very much looks like a bunch of life experience decidedly designed complexly rotating complex shapes with a bunch of internal connections all over it :}?
ENTP
Haha that's exactly the picture I had in my mind when he talked about that one single information that get's added and gives you an insight. Like one new star that appears and suddenly you see a whole picture. 😊
Mariska - yea that definitely applies , id describe it as a cloud, shield and or subjectively decided structure with substructures that have a bunch of information on it in motion “when needed” at the centre of the structures and substructures is a information core and the person using This function will add anything through a filter or not relating too those structures and substructures information core until its so perfected that it will never fail in most cases the main use is for emotion visions but can be used by the other 8 functions .
absorptive awareness function
If I had to describe intuition in one word, it would be "Knowing"
Also, Ne is objective, Ni is subjective.
Ne starts at the big picture and whittles down to the parts.
Ni starts at the parts and formulates the big picture. Fast.
By far the best explanation. It takes an extroverted thinker to be able to explain this so comprehensively! Thanks.
Dario Nardi, an award-winning UCLA professor and expert in the field of neuroscience, has this to say about the Ni dominant brain:
“The Ni types often show a whole-brain, zen-like pattern. This pattern occurs when all regions of the neocortex are in synch and dominated by brain waves that are medium-low frequency and very high-amplitude….What is this zen state like? When presented with a problem, the Ni types seek to harness all neocortex regions in order to “realize” an answer. Imagine a troop of blind men trying to identify a secret object by touch. One man feels a trunk and says, “tree”; another detects four legs and says “table”; a third feels tusks and says “boar”. Like the blind men, each region offers a different perspective, and a zen-like synchronous state allows the person to reconcile various perspectives to arrive at a best-fit answer (an elephant).”
+Emmanuel Desir (INTJ) That's just down-right fascinating. Wow. And very relatable!
Brilliant explanation! (INFJ)
Although it varies on their current state of mind, if they are going thru emotional upheaval or high stress their balance can slant into other directions giving a different synopsis stuff pig on a spit
Ne: possibilities
Ni: unities
Not sure if that fits but that's how I make sense of the distinction between Ni and Ne.
Ne in my opinion is more impulsive and addictive. Ne is like a tap to intuition. Ni is patient and becomes wise. Ne is like impulsive and becomes fast. Once an epiphany occurs, its like you want to keep going so you cycle rapidly between Ti and Ne and it is like boom boom boom new ideas and connections and epiphanies.
1.) Updated Videos on this Channel (This video is outdated)
2.) I accidentally said I am a Dominant Ni user when I made this video. At no point did I ever think I was an INTJ or INFJ, it was just a slip.
I don't actually recall it being said in that way, but probably because I took it to mean dominant Ni over Ne. In which case, not wrong at all.
i lol'd when you said gummy bears. i immediately started thinking of interesting ways to connect gummy bears to scientific theories.
The elastic tension of gummy bears comes close to that of a human body without bones
@@nirgunawish true, but then they are properly aged
You misunderstand how the INTP "branching" works. Yes Ti-Ne can take a single object and have it diverge into seemingly endless unrelated ideas but they are all logically consistent and connect with the rest of the branches because theyve been processed through Ti. Its frustrating trying to explain things to people when in this mode of thought but every piece of information has been rigorously scrutinized; its not just random bullshit.
Michael Irwin yes, i call it very short steps in logic. There are a bunch of short steps and all of them are usually logically coherent, and together they form the conclusion which is usually made using ti. If they aren't logically coherent we retrace the steps to see where our system or conclusion goes wrong via si. Its like we live life forming syllogistic interpretations of everything. Of course ne can get off tangent but not really if ti is looking for a serious conclusion. Off tangent ne is more of an entp/enfp thing, because intps harness ne to help our ti conclusions.
Very good explanation, and I had the same reaction during that part of his lecture, but at the same time he definitely seems to understand this already. I think when he described these branches as being unrelated, it was to communicate the bizarre nature of Ne from an outside perspective, where seemingly unrelated ideas are strung together through unexpected similarities which are often poorly expressed but nonetheless evident
Well I can make the intuitive leaps of what he is trying to say, as a saying goes if it red but you are red green colorblind you make the best effort you can to describe the color which makes no sense unless you are red green colorblind
@tahrah11 I agree with you... That "endless" branching out of ideas he's talking about is an ENTP thing.
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I dont think that he meant it being random BS like you're saying, I was able to get exactly what you're saying just from what he said.
Interesting vid...thank you. For the best descriptions and definitions of what Ne and Ni are, people should go straight to Carl Jung, who created the terms. He had some really in-depth, clear ways of explaining it. Of course, others have built on his ideas from there, but he did, indeed, offer clear ideas about what he meant, with examples. (If you want to be fascinated, search youtube for "carl jung introverted intuition." There is rare footage of him explaining it.)
I love how this guy explains things. My auxiliary cognitive function is Ne (I'm an INFP) and I can definitely see how I can get very creative and I tend to go here and there. Ni seems to be more focused. Oh, Damon always gets so excited about all these concepts. Great teacher. Go watch his videos and maybe go to his site(s) for one of his services to grow as a person, or whatever you need his knowledge/wisdom for.
Love your videos man...
Love your Ni explanation- Flashes of Insight. I've called my experience with Ni as flashes as well- subjective associations with items. And the "House" explanation is awesome as well, too.
You should do a Si/Se video.
My bad. I'm just seeing this reply. I'm INTJ. Keep them coming man. I enjoy hearing your thoughts!
Ni has really baffled me for quite awhile but the explanation you used with House really cleared it up. I found that show fascinating but I never related to his thought processes at all which makes sense now. He really would literally walk out of the room once someone said something to trigger the solution in his mind.
My mum (ESTJ) and brother (ENTP) and I (INFP) have Ne so we're all on the same wavelength in this area, even though our types and judging functions are all over the place. I find that I have a lot of Ne users in my life and there's really only one or two friends I have that are Ni users - it's fun to brainstorm with the Ne users and to kind of enjoy talking about possibilities but you really do need to consult with Ni users to refine ideas and to find faults in them - they offer a fresh perspective for the Ne user and I assume Ne users do the same for Ni users.
In my experience Ne is expansive, Ni wants to zero in. Take the idea of a flow chart. Ne will keep expanding and Ni will see to bring the flow chart back to a singular point. Ni creates the varying future possibilities only to focus it into the most plausible. Ne doesn't want to stop the expansion. This is how my mind understands it at any rate.
You are incredibly smart and insightful and an absolute joy to watch. I'm a mad fan of mbti, and have studied it extremely in depth, and I continue to be impressed by your natural understanding, especially when you don't seem to understand the underlying mechanism of why what you're observing is the way it is. And I don't mean that to be condescending, only that, unlike myself, you're able to arrive at highly accurate descriptions without first identifying that underlying structure, and I find it highly impressive and in many ways relaxing. I am an ENTP, by the way, if you're curious
Thanks Gene!
Of all the mbti channels I watch, you are the only one who explains things in a way that I can understand deeply.
As Ne-dominant, I don't understand Ni at all haha.
I'm an Ne-dominant and I have a pretty good Ni too
Ni here and damn Ne sounds like a real entrepreneur
Ni is knowing what you'll do in your 5 to 30 years ahead... is "predicting" (as in creating) your own future, whereas Ne is about understanding the future of humanity so to speak, the future of others... "how things will unfold"
Subjectively, Ni feels like this :
You go about your day, then notice two unrelated things, your mind shows you a big bang theory like generic with relevant associated pictures in under 0.4 seconds.
It goes : *click*
I know what is going on or I have an idea.
As an Ne dominant too (with Ti aux), I can tell you that my Ni works like chaos detector. It gives me a hunch of problem in the future, like a very bad feeling about a thing/person/situation/whatever, and if I took on that hunch and I created a plan to prevent it, that's when I activate my unconscious NiTe accessing my INTJ shadow.
My Ni is very strong when I experience very very strong emotion. Which is rare for an ENTP, our baseline is generally very excited-neutral-skeptic-optimist mixup. So whenever a rare Fi moment occur, it activated my Ni, I can foresee only 1 path in days or even months. I can not access Ne during that period. Having a very strong emotion prevent me from branching out.
But when I'm back into my baseline emotions, Ni gone and Ne overflows in seconds, with unlimited exciting possibilities. All the time. Crazy.
Thanks for this! This makes so much more sense than the more abstract examples of Ni and Ne. I know for sure now that I'm a Ne user!
Ne - Divergent Thinking
Ni - Convergent Thinking
For a brief description I hope this makes sense.
Intuition seems to be pattern recognition. When it occurs subconsciously it can seem unexplainable.
Great video, I appreciate so much. As a big Ne user, it's eye-opening to learn about Ni in such a great detail. Thanks.
Again, you have described a very immature INTP. Sure we do the branching, but there is usually a reason for it. I, for instance, engage in this branching so I can gain information to do work on. Branching allows for ideas and connections between them to become readily accessible so that it is easier for me to perform analysis. Analysis and synthesis are always the end goal.
+Chad Crandall did you actually read his comment? He did not say or even imply that you said Ne was a terrible function. He said that the example you used (your friend and the batmobile, and the boxing ring) was a very immature INTP. I find it very irritating that you responded to a comment that he didn't make.
+Chad Crandall Its irrelevant anyway since I've recently realized that I'm actually an INFJ. That fact that I'm a mathematician confused the matter for me; since mathematicians use Ti and Ne A LOT.
Ni comes to me more naturally than Ne. Ne is incredibly draining and unfocused for me.
+HitomiAyumu Ha, glad I am not alone! I am an INFJ too, started PhD in math last month. I agree, math uses a lot of Ti and Ne, especially Ti. Not sure about applied math since I am not on that side, but in pure math Ti, Ti everywhere, at least in the way ideas are presented. Ti at least we have in the #3 spot so it isn't as bad but Ne, more of a challenge.
On a different note: Tim Gowers's essay on two cultures of (pure) mathematics describes problem solvers and theory builders. Theory builders, definitely strong Ti tendency; I believe there may be more room for Ni for problem solvers but I haven't thought this through enough yet.
Jakuri Oh nice, what are you specializing in?
I used the branching out skill in trouble shooting, approach the problem from many angles, then use experience to isolate common issues, if none then the real fun begins.
Omg your the best at explaining things. Thank u, i now understand the difference
So you must be an INTP = Ni + Te
Recognizing patterns and relationships between the dynamics of objects and people. Probably the quickest way I can describe Ni. -INFJ. This also relates to all past experiences of its usage and patterns between them. This gives an accurate prediction of events and an understanding of the world completely void of objective facts. More of a dream world built inside the mind (Ni dominant) containing the physics and rules observed in every day reality. Feels as if you can alter time (or your perception of it) when heavily using intuition as well, connecting points and ideas across time and relating them to the present and future.
+CrimsonHazmat (INTJ) Yes! Exactly. Do you feel that your Ni (or atleast the "tip of the ice berg" of Ni that is conscious, is like lots of images flashing by of the world, but not only in present, but also future and past visualisations?
I know that's basically what you said but essentially; does your Ni consist of images and vivid flashes, through your minds eye?
Your videos are by far my favorites on this subject seriously !
An example of an Ni thought process probably goes like this:
1. Object A becomes stored in memory
2. Object B becomes stored in memory, triggering intuitive connection between A and B (Connection 1)
3. Object C becomes stored in memory, triggering intuitive connection between A and B on the one hand and C on the other. Does Connection 1 work with C?
3.1 Yes --> A, B and C become linked together; Connection 1 is the common thread
3.2 No --> is there a way to reconcile Connection 1 with C?
3.2.1 Yes --> Connection 1 is revised to be the common thread; A, B and C become linked together
3.2.2 No --> C is treated as an incident distinct from A and B. Where is the distinction?
For Ni, there is only one principle (Connection 1) throughout the process. All incidents are abstracted to refine that one principle. The scope is narrow and focused. The end product is a simple rule that is readily applicable.
I am not an Ne user. But from what has been described in the video, it seems like in the mind map of an Ne user, only neighbors in a tree are connected by a commonality. There is not necessarily one principle to rule them all. The scope is broad and expansive. The end product is a tree of interconnected objects and cannot be readily applied.
I've been doing the Myers-Briggs test for a few years now and every time I get INFJ. Looking back, I can say I was very underdeveloped until a few years ago in that I sensed certain things, I instinctively knew what I had to do, but I was completely unaware as to how I reached those conclusions and I distrusted them so I did nothing. But I think I've evolved now into connecting Ni with Ti so I see patterns quite easily most of the time. I'm very thankful that there are people like you out there who take the time to observe, research and sum up all this information! It helps me understand that I'm not as empty as I've felt most of my life.
What you said around 5:25 was interesting and fits my Ti model of understanding. I often say that Ni focuses on the most likely future outcome and tries to fend off any superfluous information they deem irrelevant to try and stay on that course. Ne is always thinking about all possible future outcomes regardless of probability (at least initially) until using quick logic to discard a few. That process is taken less seriously than an Ni user would take it. Ex: Ne user: immediately thinking of 6 future possibilities and then quickly discarding 3 because you remembered a piece of information that negates the likelihood of that, but still holding space for 3 outcomes without stressing about choosing the right one because there isn't a personal attachment to perceiving it correctly.
Ni actively rejects information and the more Se exposure they can draw from the better they are at doing this without specific personal experiences- if that makes sense.
Ne is amazing and at the same time kind of scary😂, every answer brings up five new question, every possibility leads to five other possibilities, it is endless.
I do not really relate to the example about that guy who walks bent. Idk about other Ne people, but i related more to what you said about Ni in this cas. I may quickly have a feeling about it, because of my experience, but then I think of other possibilities.
I think that Ni dominant types (I say this as an INFJ) are actually quite good at using Ne use it much like an INTP does but it's done as a way to help Ti and and to fuel the Ni database. Ni is very much so preferred to Ne because Ni doms and the whole point behind using Ne is to try and come up with possibilities which might contradict something that we've affirmed within our own minds. I particularly don't see the point of coming up with ideas and possibilities just for the sake of doing it (for entertainment perhaps) and although, yes, it can be interesting to do I mostly only like how Ne dominant types are able to come up with completely outlandish ideas that actually would make sense and that I could see happening. I think that it takes an Ni dominant type to actually be able to see Ne for it's worth rather than it's weight. Ni doms have no problem using Ne but it can purposefully block out certain types, often lots of types, of ideas because of what it would take to arrive at such an idea--in other words it drains us too much to contemplate the implications that Ne so easily dismisses. Ne doms don't think about ideas a we do they simply like to ponder on what could be without necessarily attaching themselves to those ideas, probably because it's a form of entertainment for them to do so. Ni doms can't help but see the entire idea and see why it wouldn't work. Ne somehow can come up with ways to show us how we are wrong, which is something I find very interesting.
Wow I never had someone put this into words. I’m a ENFJ but the Fe was suppressed most of my life so after watching this I realized I used Ni to navigate life. Thanks!
Dominant Extroverted Intuitive here. I loved your explanation of Introverted Intuitive. It is mind blowing to me. I cannot comprehend how you could think like that, which is how you described your inability to comprehend extroverted intuition. It is crazy how 2 brains can work in completely different ways to come up with a solution to the same problem.
The perceiving functions just generally get the shaft with the descriptions - usually the S ones will be too simplistic and the N ones too nebulous. Maybe because to describe it, you'd have to perceive perception and you'd get into the whole clusterfuck of self-referential systems.
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Hey Chad, ENFP here. Liked this video a lot (referred to me by my ENFJ friend that you Skyped a few weeks ago). I'd love to talk to you more about the mysteries of Ne sometime.
To add to your description of Ne, it works best when we use phantom Ni too. We think about how the sensing things we take in and observe would "theoretically work" in other cases, maybe by taking a statistical sample. But then Ne for me is also I try to see or imagine the "opposite" of what's in front of me. The opposite phenomenon means that if one person says this, therefore I can assume they don't also believe this. Two things can't coexist. (Right?) When it comes to beliefs, or like, events. That's how I trace and map out my reality: dealing in "if I know what the opposite of something is, I'll have all bases of a perception covered. Yes. Good good."
BUT of course that's not always true. Someone can both fear and love someone, someone can both be annoyed by but respect someone. My biggest fear is not knowing what else in a perception I could be missing. But cause extroverted judging is not my strong suit, as an Ne dom, I find myself constantly battling with reality and trying to interpret the intricacies of what I can pick on, but am unable to understand. I can't always 100% logically assess what can coexist and what can't.
Ergo, I highly resent being unable to come to any conclusions, because a lot of Ni users (not you necessarily, but definitely others) think that Ne sounds fun. But to me, it's exhausting knowing that my reality constantly shifts. I may believe something tomorrow, but new information can cloud it and make me have to change my mind. If someone were to tell me something, I can never discern if it's a malleable Te fact or a Ti truth. If that Te/Ti conclusion makes remote sense, I'll accept it as a constant, and then if i'm proven wrong, I'll get scared and have to scramble to replay when I was told that to see if there was something I missed in my original perception.
Si becomes like TiVo, where i can replay (sometimes verbatim conservations and sequences of events in exact form) as many episodes of events in my life as i want. but unlike tv show episodes that stay the same no matter how many times you watch them, i'm going to read something different out of an incident each time based on my shifting Ti. My sense of truth can literally make me rewrite reality multiple times if conflicting info comes in. So I resort to constantly playing in the realm of Ne and Si, searching for something that can consistently make sense, cause Si wants to deal in absolutes that don't change over time.
But all I crave in life is being able to make a solid conclusion about something... but even if it presented itself to me it's not necessarily going to stick cause my Ne has been conditioned over time to be scared of banking on anything.
TL;DR - really wanna Skype sometime.
I'm so thrilled by this explanation fucking hell , well done!
My personal conclusion, yes I can elaborate:
Ne is the ability to be aware of all external possibilities based on life experiences.
Ni is the ability to be aware of all internal possibilities based on life experiences.
Ne is trying to figure out through external connections , theories , idea's, "everything external"
for every single possibility it can be aware of based on life experiences but more so extroverted ones.
Ni is trying to figure out through internal connections , theories, idea's "everything internal"
for every single possibility it can be aware of based on life experiences but more so introverted ones.
I could go deeper ;P
-ENTP
well done, Damon! sounds all right!
Interesting video. I like how you mentioned needing Ne to blur out ideas for us to Ni our way to a goal. The same concept can be applied to Fe and Fi. We Fe users got to share our definite logical Ti conclusions (especially ISTP) for you Fi users to come up with the best emotionally pleasing decision for yourselves.
-ENFJ
Excellent talk on Intuition Chad. Also see Dr Mike's from NFGeeks (TH-cam Channel) explanation of this the most mysterious of the functions.
I like what you said about being around interesting people. As an INTJ, I am only as interesting as the people around me. Certain people stimulate my Ni more than others. That is why I think it is important for Ni users to surround themselves with creative people. Look at Steve Jobs. He was definitely an Ni user. You can see in multiple interviews how he talks about finding the most creative people to work with. He would avoid process thinking types.
Thanks you cleard Ne for me
I'm INTJ and it was really a mystry for me.
Hi Chad, I'm binging your video one a time. I can see here that you are infact, ENTJ, I thought you might be an Ti user on the other video. Anyway just wanna share I like you, I like your videos, your vision with TG. In regards to this video, as a Ne dominant (with Ti aux), my Ni works like chaos detector. It gives me a hunch of problem in the future, like a very bad feeling about a thing/person/situation/whatever, and if I took on that hunch and I created a plan to prevent it, that's when I activate my unconscious NiTe accessing my INTJ shadow.
My Ni effortlessly surfaces when I experience very very strong emotion. Which is rare for an ENTP, our baseline is generally very excited-neutral-skeptic-optimist mixup. So whenever a rare Fi moment occur, it activated my Ni, I can foresee only a certain solid path in days or even months, crazy. I can not access Ne during that period. Having a very strong emotion prevent me from branching out.
But when I'm back into my baseline emotions, Ni gone and Ne overflows in seconds, with unlimited exciting possibilities. All the time.
INTJ here. Never-ending flashes. Based on my own experiences, the desire for a sounding board is invaluable. Thus I agree House is not Ne.
Chad,I feel like I have Ti to map out Ni. That may seem crazy,but it fits in the multiple cognitive tests I have taken. It fits in how I value the description of Ti (I also value Ni,Te,score high in Ne,but don't really value it) and it fits in how I notice the change (when alone) between Ti and Te. Ti is quiet thinking,but I literally start taking to myself as if I am trying to convince someone with Te.
I really appreciate your videos because it helps me to understand my Ni "knowings". What I mean by that is Ni knowings need no words,symbols,details.... It's like knowing in an instant an entire complex (I have no word for what I am trying to convey),so I will say "system",but really it could be a complex anything (if that makes sense). Basically you get what you focus on and it feels like the subconscious gives the conscious mind a quick peek from it's own perspective (unconscious and unbiased). What I consciously notice when I get these peeks into the subconscious is that I start to deconstruct(the big picture) to see if things fit reality,but it is short lived because everything seems to fit perfectly. Much of what I know (understand,whatever you want to call it) I know intuitively. It seems so easy to grasp the concept which comes from Ni(I don't need to think or do anything),but if I wan't to explain to others,I need to deconstruct it into words and much (most) will be lost in translation. No other topic leaves me for such a loss of words to explain it than Ni does. It stands to reason because Ni isn't about words,rather it is a biological pattern recognition machine.
Ni by itself would serve no other purpose than recognizing the difference between a tiger in the grass,or the wind causing the grass to move. I think it is a primitive brain function that all animals use (maybe it is Ne,but it is clearly intuition). Humans are considered pattern recondition animals and I believe all people have the self preservational aspects of Ni (Ne),but for intuition to shine it need a filter (Te,Ti) to limit the pattern recognition data base to things that match the real outer world.
Most people see patterns,but much of those patterns are fake patterns. Ni works from the data base at hand (the contents of the brain),so if an Ni dom doesn't have a keen counterpart (Te,Ti) to make sure the info matches reality,then Ni "knowings" will be out to lunch.
During my 20's I was every bit as confident with my Ni incite,but it was nowhere near as accurate. The power of Ni is clearly proportional to the depth and accuracy of the knowledge in the data base (brain). 20 year old INTJs need smart friends to prove them wrong.
In my 20's I would seek info from authority figures whom I deemed worthy,but now in my 40's I am the epitome of a constructivist. I simply take in information and come to my own conclusions.I attribute this to Ti somehow creeping into the picture and maybe NE as well (because I test very high in Ne). My Ni tangents never end (everything is ultimately connected,because everything is from the universe),so I stop now.
Don't look to the "experts" to understand Ni,go to the source.This is Ni in action.
Most (50%)INTJs are type 5 Ennagram (I noticed the "50%" contradiction, half isn't most and I am mentioning it to give you my perspective of thought) and 30% are the stereotypical type 1 INTJ.
I tried to keep Te out of it,but I don't even know what I am trying to convey now. You know how you mentioned how INTPs go off on tangents, that is nothing compared to if I let my mind lose.
Most INTJs aren't going to give you much info ("my personal life is none of your fucking business"),but on an anonymous forum I am free to let it ride. I want to give back to those like you (extroverts willing to put themselves on a public stage)who help me understand them.
I understood what you meant when you said you were a "dominant Ni user", because it is all about context for me. I seen it as you meaning dominant Ni over Ne.
Interestingly I am an INTJ but I can relate to both types of intuition your talking about. Great example was in one of my English classes in college we had a choice of about 15 topics to write about. I felt that was too easy. So I branched each topic together and wrote a story incorporating all of them. I felt at the time that this was the way everyone thought and people were just being lazy. However, as far as the having a flash of an idea I get that a lot. If it's something complicated that I have been thinking about (usually for my business) it kind of just comes to me later when my mind is not even thinking about it. Was working on different ways to advertise new products. Gave it much thought and still wasn't satisfied. 3 days later I was doing am cardio on treadmill listening to music and it hit me. Got off treadmill and wrote it all out right there. Called wife after I was so excited. She is ESFJ so she had no interest in it all but I felt like talking it out to get her input.
I'm an INTP. Great explanation of Ni. This really helps to fill in those gaps that make Ni hard to explain.
I'm having a hard time trying to figure out if I use Ne or Ni.
Good job understanding House, indeed. Always shocking that anyone types House any differently than NTJ.
Also, when he describes the microscopic physical processes - AND ALSO comes up with a metaphor describing that same process alongside the process…
Definitely Ni.
Gregory House is INTJ.
By my understanding of personality types ENTJ have a big Ne. Its just not in awareness of the user, not something you can command consciously. Its also not valued, but its there.
-INTP
Many, but not all, characteristics of intuition can be logically explained. It's just so subconscious that the user has to become conscious of its step-by-step processing (which can take place in the speed of a synapse) and reasoning. However, language is so un-evolved that it makes the process that much more complicated to explain to an incomprehensive person processing with their own logic but without that cognition to understand.
Quite an interesting and insightful video. I'm an Ne-aux user but I think I use Ni to an extent. I can relate to what you said about forming conclusions based on subjective experience (e.g. I know people who are hunched like that and they are like this or like that so possibly this guy is the same).
There are some things you've mentioned about how Ne works which are kinda off but understandable as you're not an Ne user. Still, given that I use Ni to some extent, I can't seem to get a grasp on it.
I've been researching stuff about Ni just to see how it works (because it really boggles my mind and would want to know/practice it) without devaluing other cognitive functions when using them as comparisons. So would love to see an update (more insights about Ni) with regards to this video (as you mentioned on a reply to one of the comments here).
INFP?
+Matt Thomsen Yup. Why?
I'm watching this video precisely because I just cannot define intuition and it bothers me as a Ni-dominant. I read Jungs book and see his definition, and so many other definitions but none of them is spot-on.
I think your explanations of "insights" is quite good. I usually explain Ni as a spiritual function, because that's what I believe it to be at its fundamental essence. An unconscious type of "sight" or perception which allows for sight of that which isn't physical, thus metaphysical.
I think a lot of people who explain Ni are really confusing it with Ti, and that's the biggest problem in understanding Ni.
I find it easier to understand intuition through its yin/yang function sensing. As an Ni/Se user I experience and see the stars in the external world which goes into my Ni and makes constellations of the aforementioned stars in my mind creating a flow between the present experience (Se) and the vision of where it is all going in the future (Ni.) Ne in my observation makes the connections externally and filters through past patterns, routines, and internal experiences. (Si)
I noticed you kept saying that with Ni dominant the object leaves a subjective impression on the subject which leads to their inner perceptions. Wouldn't it be Se, rather than Si, that supplies the data to later be constellated into an Ni image, since Se is the inferior function for an Ni dominant type?
wow! great explanation! I'm into, my dad's an empty, so our relationship has always been weirdly scrambled, lol. our i.q.'s are similar, yet one of us always trading off being the idiot! this helps me understand him a bit more.
What you are describing as Ne sounds like Se not Ne. Could you make an example that doesn't use simple objects? I liked the example you gave towards the end of the video with the hunched over guy. Better.
elsa Grace ne and se are similar as they are both external perceiving functions. They both rely on the external environment for the information, and some interpretations they both like to see impact on the external environment. The difference is the se is about the immediate physical information and ne is about the idea/connection that the object forms in the mind. So while ne is best used when looking at the external environment, it can still be used when not looking at the objects directly via si. Si stores the picture of the idea in the head and ne can interpret the idea and connect stored data to form new ideas. But again its easier to use ne when the ideas are right in front of you.
Enfp here. And you’re right about INTPs. We were talking about covid and suddenly she linked to Trump, and from Trump to Biden, and from Biden to Malaysian ministers, and from Malaysian ministers to election, and from election to vaccination, and from vaccination to conspiracy, and from conspiracy to the best movie about conspiracy. Then lo behold we were then talking about Netflix. And the movie reminded her about mother and what compassion means in life. And it all started from Covid for heaven sake. I mean, i am an Ne dominant user and hers is auxiliary, but why I think she’s nuts.
Ne cares about future possibilities as well, it cares for many possibilities now in the moment or in the future both.
I thought this video was really interesting. It seems that I am an NE user and as such, I have a comment about how NE works. NE pulls a multitude of thoughts and memories from the subconscious and reconstructs them into a new creative output, such as a song or piece of writing. SI is used in tandem with NE to organize the creative output into a specific form that works for the composition. From what I understand (and correct me if I am wrong), NI (in tandem with SE) observes a multitude of specific details about a person or situation and interprets them in order to reach an understanding of what lies beneath the surface of the person's thoughts or feelings, or of the the situation and how it will play out.
Great video as usual.
thank you for your videos. much appreciated
But i thought that intuition is a perception function (gather information), but if it's so then how can it make judgments? (give diagnosis etc?)
well, does it mean anything if you use your Ne and Ni almost like equally? bc i think i use both quite frequently ( my Ni is just a tad bit higher than my Ne )
Yes, That sound about right... Ti & Ne is my best friend, Hahahaha! I love the branch concept it worx 4 m3... Every thought can be manifested in to reality.
Great job. Very helpful!
The secret no one actually says is mind mapping is nothing more than a visual representation of a regression model. It’s math. Some phenomena y is a function of x1+x2+x3. If you were going to mind map it, you’d put y in the center and then branch off x1, x2 and x3
Then of course you could take x1 and make it y and do the whole thing all over again to infinity if necessary. If you’ve ever taken economics or statistics, it’s pretty much that. The “variance” in the phenomenon can be “explained” to a degree by the variables...
If you can find gummy bears are correlated to snowfall, then so be it. There will be a regression model somewhere that says to buy stock in candy companies that make gummy bears when heavy winters are expected
Even at a more granular level of detail, the linking of ideas is a form of math, too. It’s relational algebra
Thus, INTPs are naturally adept at mathematics or at least mathematical models. Just like if you wanted to predict a binary response of Y/N of someone being an INTP (y)
INTP = Presence of mind maps + some other variable + some other variable etc
I tend to attract Ne users, they’re pretty magical but actually trying to converse is sometimes really hard, Not that I can’t keep up or imagine or see where they are going, but because I’d prefer to come back to point and find at least a semi conclusive answer. I’m okay with navigating from topic but within a boundary line, it’s like the topic at hand is dead center and I can talk around it, spinning until I come back to center, while Ne is more like splattered paint, or spiders web within a web. Like when you get your vacuum cord all tangled up haha. I agree that the intuitive cognitive functions are very hard to put in human words. Love your microscope analogy by the way!
So dr house is an Entp ,lol.
I can see that ,
Love your channel bro ,just subs and still learning 🤓keep them coming
-Enfj
So I'm not super familiar with House, but I'm probably going to disagree with you. I'm currently watching a detective show called Endeavour, and the main guy wanders around collecting all this information, and then suddenly someone will say something, or he'll see something, and it reminds him of one of the bits he has previously encountered and stuff locks into place. I think one thing making you think of another thing in a different context is Ne.
Ne is also for future predictions, but on group scale...
Brilliant Explanation. Good way to use your Te
Hi Chad, what causes Ni users to think about the future, which Ne finds difficult?
Sanket Borkar ne doesnt connect to the user. It connects external parts with external parts. Its like building a machine, there are so many parts and possibilities its hard to see one as more likely than others. With ni, its connecting those parts to the self and only certain parts will fit as the self is already established. So only certain possibilities are open to them, and the more parts they pull in the less possibilities they are concerned with, narrowing them down to one potential possibility that they work hard to achieve via an external judging function. To them this ni big picture is the truth, even if its subjective. To us we dont know because we arent storing these intuitions as one big idea, were just using it as we go along. Ne uses si to store data and narrow down choices. Ni uses se to bring in data and store it. At least thats how i understand it
As an ENFP, the boxing analogy had me cracking up; so true!
I looooooved that show House! ...and I have that same experience often! (I think that's one of the reasons I like the show so much) I was hoping this video would help me determine whether I'm an INFP or an INFJ, and because INFP has Ne, the obvious conclusion would be to assume I'm an INFJ (assuming I've ruled all other types out), but I'm really good at reading people's "states" in a split second....and it just comes immediately....little if any thinking involved....which, by your description, suggests Ne....but could that be Ni at work.... based on a lifetime of paying attention to the minute changes in people's expressions AND because of the Fe of INFP?
Grrrr...I keep thinking I'm going to narrow this down and I'm just going deeper into the rabbit hole. Maybe, like House, I need to say "screw it!" and just wait for the answer to come to me in a flash of insight....but (and this may be telling to you or anyone who understands MBTI better than I do) I'm taking in tons of videos, "kind of" for that exact reason. I take in as much information as possible until the answer I'm looking for just "comes to me". (That would suggest NI, would it not?)
O.k. enough for today..... :l
By the way, Thanks for the videos. You're very likeable...You remind me a bit of my bro who I believe is also an ENTJ.
You seems like an Ne user. Idk but somehow I can tell if someone is an Ne/Ni user based on the way of their writing, if that make sense lol. Anyway INFPs have Ni critic (6th function) which mean they are quite good in Ni. So technically they can use both Ne and Ni, while INFJ can use both Fe and Fi bcs Fi is their critic. The important part to differentiate them are Ne and Fe. If you feel confused wether you're an Ni/Ne user, you are more likely to be an INFP. Normally, INFJ have no problem in deciding that (because they use Ni all the time) but instead they will be more likely to feel confused between Fi and Fe that make them thought they were INFP. Well you should go search about the 6th function if you want to know more about it.
Its also quite cool for you, since its your auxillary and therefore a bit more easily separated from the all dominating Te that you have. I'm an ENTP so, yeah thats not too easy for me.
Wow this was five years ago. Still relevant
Hey Chad - great video. You really nailed the observable characteristics and behavior of Ne and Ni quite well. I'm just a little confused - you stated near the beginning of the clip that you are an ENTJ. But then later on at various times, you go on to state that you are an Ni-dom (intj or infj). Which are you?
Intuition = The ability and lust to draw conclusions despite having too little information to prove it. In other words people with intution are better at seeing where something will end up then others.
Persons with extroverted intution will focus on the outer world and how the information they get from it can become new solutions or things. They feel comfortable creating new ideas based on what they observe in the world. They are are also good at seeing connections between very different things and therefore good at thinking "broadly" - seeing how things correlate with eachother.
As a person with introverted intution you collect what you observe in the outher world and use that to "zoom in" a specifik problem and understand the solution as in contrast with those with extroverted intuition that "zooms out" to se how that specifik thing fits with other things.
If I would attempt, as clearly and easily as possible, to describe the difference between having a function beeing introverted and having it being extroverted is to use numbers. Introverted function would symbolize the number 1 and extraverted function would symbolize infiniti.
That means that those that use introverted intution are good at more fully understand a problem or think of the solution to a specifik problem without enough information to prove it. They can understand a specifik problem better by hearing other problems, solutions and so on. Those other things triggering that understanding. In other words, their intuition allows them to understand one thing by understanding or hearing about other things. Those with extroverted intuition use their intuition to look at multiple things at the same time, with the intent of understand how different things go together. They have the abilty to understand the solution of many things by understanding the solution of one different thing.
So people with extraverted intution start with understanding one thing and using it to understand many other things. On the other hand those with introverted intuition start with understanding many things and using that to understand one other thing. In that way those who use introverted intuition, taking into account many separate things to understand one specifik thing, is often considered as more analytical and focused when those with extroverted intuition, that thru their intuition taking one fact to understand many other things, are generally considered to be more dopey and absentminded.
// I am still learing about all the different aspects of personality types, so do not take what I say as the universal truth. But being an ENTP I believe i am good at understanding complex things and explaining them in a new and simpler way. :)
You are very good at what you're doing, if you didn't know that already
brilliant video. made so much sense
I was told that 97% of my mental energy was directed at Ni when I took the myers briggs test. I originally thought that Ni was taking in information into the subconscious (I.e. having the answers without conscious thought..and therefore not being able to explain why)..so I was upset (naturally). but this video changed my opinion :)
I'm glad it helped!
Thanks! Glad it helped!
Extroverted intuition seeks to expand on ideas, possibilities and concepts. Introverted intuition seeks to narrow down ideas, possibilities and concepts to one idea, possibility or concept.
Great explanation! Ne-dom, here (ENTP). I've never been able to understand Ni, but I have many close friends who are Ni users. Where do you get your MBTI info from? I'd also be interested in Skyping about MBTI, if you're interested.
It's the hardest one to explain but also the most fascinating I find. Intuition used in one way has a divergent bent; the other, convergent bent. Definitely agree one of the commenters' view.
My SO (like myself) is also an INFJ (well, she scores INTJ in some tests, but IN_J remain invariant throughout; my bet is on INFJ). So she has flashes of insights on how people are like, and for the most part they are proved to be true. ("How do you know?" (later) "I told you~") Convergent/singular bent + support by an extraverted judging function make it sound like she's passing on judgement, but she really isn't. She's not voicing out her insights as often nowadays because people around her accuse her of being judgemental. :( When I told her about Ni+Je combination she could strongly relate to all that, not surprisingly.
Intuition is that part of your subconsious mind that is constantly blending concepts. When they make a link your brain goes like 'EUREKA'.
So yes it feels magical, but mostly because it is part of your brain that is not easily accesed.
Ni is like snowball, Ne is like a shut gun
I'm really confused between these two. But somewhere while listening it hit me that actually I had some of those situations. Or at least I think it was it. For ex. I was watching a film, it was some sort of comedy, and the character(white woman) was getting married with a black guy, and the plot was that they were against it etc, and I thought that hey, I could become wedding organizator and I could offer multicultural weddings, you know, with traditions from both sides etc. It had nothing to do with what was being said in a movie, it just happened
If you are ENTJ how is Ni your dominant?
If I said this, I was a moron amidst making this video. It's obviously not my dominant. -Damon
it happens dude
Could someone please explain the difference between Se and Ni working together as to just Si perceiving and comparing to past experiences, I feel like they're kind of the same thing and this confusion has made determining my type extremely difficult.
I've come to the understanding that I'm mostly comfortable with Fi and Te, but I just CAN'T distinguish whether I'm Si/Se or Ni/Ne because with the information I currently have I feel like I use both, pretty much as often as each other and drift to either one depending on the matter at hand. HELP!
You have to remember Leo we use all functions, so a great way to figure out your type is to focus on your first two preferred functions while focusing on your preferences of intro and extraversion, perceiving and judging. Another route you can take is working with Damon, our Certified practitioner to figure out not only your type but your facts and preferences. -Daniel myersbricks.com/coaches/
The INTP example of Ne is really good! I would say a lot of people can branch off while they talk and this is not indicative of Ne dominance or Ne over Ni. Your explanation of Ni is vague here and it's not subjective interpretation but I do understand what you are trying to say. Ni symbolism is objective and can be interpreted by others.
Your Ne impersonation was brilliant tho! 😂
I'm not in any way calling you an Ne user btw. I'm sure we use all the functions
Not to mention that the connecting ideas and mind not slowing down is a great combination for insomnia lol That's the downside of that function.
Intuition is something I intuitively understand... nuff said..
I can relate to both Ne and Ni. -.-
May I do two generell (for all of MBTV) suggestions?
1.) use more the words - Introverted Intuition and Extroverted Intuition and less abbreviations. For non native speaker its sometimes hard to follow you.
2.) Post your Notes so people also can read while hearing your voice. (for more visual focused people)
This video is way way way too old. Please see the updated versions of these videos. There is also an Se video and an Si video which contrasts the differences.
I JUST OBSERVED dat Ni doms like yourself like frown upon ne doms like myself entp you should look at ne doms like think upon debugging or finding syntax error while coding they run errors through them like 3 different computer screens running a code and one of them debugs the code its simple "hit and trial method" though branching of ideas is a representation of our thoughts but its just a representation not understanding
I don't frown upon Ne doms. I only frown at the fact that you got this idea from this video.
nish K I personally love Ne doms but in the words of The Dread Pirate Robert's "You truly have a dizzying intellect." It is a wonderful thing to watch though.
then let me quote myself you have dizzying judgement and its least bit endearing to frown upon
nish K I rather enjoy it personally. It just isn't one of my skills. I feel at this point you're either trolling or picking out what you want so there isn't much more I can say here. I respect all functions and types and I'm not one to belittle anyone for their uniqueness. I'm sorry you feel you're being attacked but may I suggest understanding what makes you beautiful and that is the ability to see what others can't. Have a great day.
8;25 i disagree a bit, its not all about objects in the outer world for me , i just literally link stuff to all other stuff im thinking at , im entp
i would describe it like this; my adhd mind is always wondering about a ton of stuff, for example; im thinking about philosophy and suddenly i walk around and i see a picture with a galaxy on it, suddenly i think about how it would be to explain philosophy in correlation with the stars etc
its always about how i see 1 point in my environment and links me to something im thinking about or someting Si i remember, its trying to connect the whole time, the more creative the crazier the connections, if the scheme of the scientific paper was yellow it can remind me of the yellow gummibear i ate yesterday etc and that leads to well how would it be if the scientific paper was made of gummi etc etc
its like; how am i going to do this new thing, i look around me and start to link everthing like a big statistical correlator to make links, super random, most of them funny but not usefull, but if its funny and new why dont follow this exciting new track i made , and before you know it you actually have something new super cool out of the box crazy thing
House was very much so an INTJ. Lol. I love that show.