Why Does a Crematorium Require a Minimum Container? - Just Give Me 2 Minutes
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2024
- Kari the Mortician answers the big question, "why does a crematory often require someone to buy a minimum container for the cremation?"
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@KaritheMortician
Why do we need Kari on TH-cam? Well because common sense isn't a flower that grows in everyone's garden & she has such a tactful way of explaining things in a way that doesn't offend anyone 😊
Well said
Aww thanks!!
Very true
I’ll never bake a pizza without that visual! LOL
I know, right!?! As soon as she started talking about pizza I said "NO, don't ruin that for me!" LOL
But just like a 'looky Lou' at a train wreck, I had to keep watching...
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Lol
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It wouldn't have ever occurred to me to try and stuff a body into a cremation retort without being in some kind of container. You explanation was perfect.
Thank you!
Good explanation! Thinking about it, that makes sense! By the way, you just blew any chance of Domino's sponsering you!
Thank you!! I totally did :)
@@KaritheMortician :)
That was a perfect analogy. Made sense for sure! Thanks Kari ❤️
Thank you!
I could have guessed at the answer to this one, comes from watching your videos. Very nice simple and understandable explanation 👍
Thank you!
Makes perfect sense without question
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Makes perfect sense the way you explained it! Thank you for sharing Kari! Have a wonderful week!🌞🌝🌞
Thank you!! You too!
Excellent analogy Kari. Hope you and your children are doing well. Things will get better, trust me.
Thank you :)
Thanks. I get it. It's like if you have to ship something, you have to box it up first in order to ship it.
Exactly
Excellent description and makes us understand all better. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
That’s a perfect way to associate the need for a rigid container. Also, the strength of the rigid container may need to be even more rigid for individuals of greater weight. Same with a pizza; if the pizza is 3 feet in diameter, the base of the plate loading the pizza must be wider as well as reinforced with thickness. This ensures that the cremation is done with the highest dignity and respect and also that your extra large pizza is cooked properly.
Yes very true!!
I love that analogy... but now I'm going to imagine a 10-ft long pizza peel by every retort 🤯
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Guess they could use just a flat piece of plywood like a pizza peel.... LOL 😂. Been in the funeral service part time for 40 years, and never thought about that, nor ever asked.
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Kari, That was a very good analogy. I had never considered that detail, but now I have a good understanding. We have the best pizza in Baltimore. Called Matthews Pizza. Their history predates the history of the “pizza box” and the pizza is amazing. I wonder how long a pizza would cook in a retort…lol maybe 30 seconds…… Wondering if I would try something new like Polish or French… Probably just stick with the Italian I grew up with. If the job comes alone. I’ll send a photo eating Pizza outside the RETORT….. CHIO…
I will check it out when I visit the city sometime!
Great analogy. Have damaged many pizzas at work just trying to get it off the cardboard and onto the pan
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Straight to the source,plain&simple.Awesome; Kari.
Thanks
Love the crematorium “down on the farm” music.
Thanks
Good analogy.
Thanks!!
And have you noticed that no crematorium ever promises "30 minutes or it's free"?
nope they don't
also Kari - and I am not bieng flippant or disrespectful here - I should imagine the poor deceased might explode all ovet the retort here (due to the boiling off of fluids before the naked flames begins to consume the body.. As usual a very concise and informative film. Stay safe Lady Of Michigan.....Happy rest of 2021.......xxxxx
There is no exploding
I've seen numerous outdoor on stacked wood funeral pyres as well crematorium Hindu cremation rituals, They don't explode. HOWEVER due to the severe obesity problem , Literal grease fires have started at crematoriums.
NUMEROUS Medical examiners, Funeral directors have talked about the issues of morbid obesity and how it is impacting the death industry in MANY negative ways.
Makes perfect sense, Thank you Kari! 🤗
You are welcome
Another great video! Thanks!
Thank you
Thank you for the analogy, Kari!
If I'm not mistaken, when doing a chemical based cremation, the body is not in any type of container, when placed inside the "tube".
Correct no clothing or container
I recall this, $400.
I suggested his son make a pine box
Which is completely allowable!
@@KaritheMortician
Good to know
They were both carpenter's
WOW, thanks for the input, I'll just make my own box and have the Mrs throw it on back of the truck to deliver
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To be fair wrestling that alone while grieving may be hard for her.
Seriously if you have the room to store it.
Knew this already as I had a long discussion with someone who repaired retorts while on holiday years ago
Interesting job
I've seen in other videos on here, that some bodies were not placed in a box. Is it because they are trained to handle the body like a funeral director?
Possibly other countries.
In England it is common to have funeral services in a chapel attached to a crematorium. The coffin is placed on a conveyor belt at the front of the chapel at the end of service. Mourners then get to see the coffin go through a small "door" which leads to the crematorium oven.
Yes very much
Why not have a stainless steel baking type sheet to capture the remains? At the end of the cycle the remains can be placed in a container and returned to the family.
This container requirement really seems like a waste of natural resources (wood).
You possibly could but it exposes the staff to the deceased when they are not trained for that so it would mean more training and such is all
Because of a few things: The bones must cool down before they can ne handled to go through the next process and the crematoriums are usually busy where they don't have the space a full size sheet of metal would require to be set aside during the cooling process. Since it takes at least a couple hours to cremate someone at temperatures well above 1000 degrees, that would require much more time for a metal to cool that could survive those temperatures. Also, the one set of bones/cremains is usually cooling while the next person/body is being cremated. I'm sure kari can explain this in much better detail than I can
Best visual description ever!!
Thanks so much!!
Hello Kari! I kinda wondered about that. It seemed like a waste, but your explanation makes perfect sense. Great video, and you look great!
Glad it was helpful!
Great analogy. I’m with Paul on having the visual. 😂
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Well explained. ty
Thanks!
Makes sense !
Yeah!
Thx. I had to do this when I made pre-arrangements..
Yes!
Hello buddy 👋 that is the best analogy I ever heard... you are so welcome buddy 👍
Thanks again!
I worked ata box company and we made creamation boxes. They were 6 and a half feet long a foot wide no staples just tape.
Awesome!
Makes sense to me. I love your videos Kari, long may they continue
I will try
Does the deceased not get cremated in their regular casket there? I’m not 100% on the process here but just assumed that’s how it happened here in New Zealand 🤷🏻♀️
Yes if they have purchased one but a minimum container is required so for a direct cremation often a cardboard box is used.
@@joeblow9912 yeah I guess that’s true!! We don’t use a lot of metal caskets here in New Zealand
I’ve had pizzas that might have been cooked in a retort.
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Now, that's funny and "deadpan" humor....
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@@randyfritz2094 Is “Deadpan” kind of like “Deep Dish”?
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I always wondered that.... Thanks for sharing this information. Great informational educational vids!
Glad it was helpful!
The 2 best funeral people on TH-cam are Kari and Caitlin.
Wow thanks
Thanks. That makes sense.
Very welcome
That clears up the question thank you,
Can we make our own coffin?
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Yes, you can, the funeral directors may not like it ( it cuts into their profits). We did this for my dad, he wanted to be buried in a plain casket ( Pennsylvania). There is no law that states you must only purchase a casket/ coffin from a funeral director. The Amish/ Old Order Mennonites, Horse and Buggy people ( plain folk) have a cabinet maker ( this started with a furniture store making caskets/ coffins and cabinet makers) also making the casket/ coffins that the deceased will be buried in. It is a plain casket/ coffin , no ornamentation, plain handles, the interior is just done up in white muslin. The deceased is taken the the funeral home, embalmed, just dressed in underclothes ( the family might dress them/ or the funeral director may do this also). They do NOT use much makeup on the deceased. The deceased female is usually dressed in a white dress, cape ( over the dress) and white head covering. The men may be dressed in dark pants, white shirt ( no tie), if the man was a bishop or minister, he would probably be dressed in a suite with a buttoned up collar on the suite. The family would sit with the deceased in the parlor, they would take turns, relatives stop by the late residence or family members home where the wake is ( 24 hrs) 2-3 days till the service at the house would start. Then the body is loaded into a horse drawn hearse and driven to the church for a service in the church or outside viewing, they may sing songs, read srcipture. The casket has a small window for viewing the deceased. The deceased is the taken to adjoining cemetery and lowered into a rough pine box and buried. They believe the body should be allowed to decay as soon as possible without fancy caskets, vaults. The are NO FLOWERS at all....unless the congregation or church district is as strict with it's rules....There is no eulogy or preaching at the service, they do not talk about heaven or hell. I know this because I grew up in Southeastern Lancaster Co., in PA., among these people, we even had an Old Order Mennonite housekeeper for 5 years...After the burial the families go to a relatives house for a big meal, which is done in shifts, everything is homemade ( funeral pie- raisin pie) if the family has a farm, people get together and do the chores, field work ( house work) the house that the viewing is taking place at is usually cleaned from top to bottom by others ....etc., so the immediate family doesn't have worry about taking care of things. Also these people would not usually endorse a deceased person be cremated, that goes against the beliefs and they feel it's an abomination to God...desecration of the body, it isn't being kept whole, just as they were created.
@@randyfritz2094 thank you so much very interesting, I’m in Australia not sure if we have any Amish here 🤔
Yes you can!
Not entirely accurate.
As long as a crematorium has what is known as a "charge trolley" a body can be placed into the retort in nothing but a shroud.
It's certainly the case here but seems not to be in the US.
My sister was just wrapped with cloth
My guess is that either nobody has bothered to think about how to improve this, maybe with something as simple as a stainless steel grate on rollers, or that the owner of the crematory makes too much money selling the cardboard / plywood "mandatory" box and would lose profit if the process was improved.
Thank you
I really liked that explanation....now I feel like a pizza and it’s not even 8am ugh!!!
Breakfast pizza!!
Great analogy. That makes perfect sense!
Thanks!
That makes perfect sense! Thank you Kari! God bless you!
Thanks!
Thanks for the explanation!
You are welcome
Don't know about the toppings falling off part... but great explanation....
Glad it was helpful!
I've seen them put bodies in the retort without being in a container
Where at?
The Mandela affect. I was wrong.
Good morning Kari. Do you have to be embalmed to be buried in a single above ground lawn crypt?
No you should not have to be but some cemeteries have their own requirements on it.
@@KaritheMortician Ok. Thank you.
No only to view a person
@@lisaberruti9223 no, you do not Kari has said in other videos.
Just killed pizza for me😂😂😂😂
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Bring your Family, your girls would love the National Aquarium or the Science Center at the Inner Harbor.. Please don’t come until you find out about our legendary deceased. We have the best Crab Cakes ever. ….. Be Well…..
Amen to that! Fellow Baltimorean here! :)
Yum!
Don’t show up after dark. You might not see any of the above mentioned sights. Baltimore WAS a beautiful city.
That held my interest thx
Thanks!
very good way of explaining. thank you god blesss you.
You are most welcome
What about just a bag, like a shake & bake bag? I don't want cardboard ashes mixed with my wonderful ashes
The cardboard is not part of the cremated remains
Thank you.
You're welcome!
Wonderful analogy. Equate humans to pizza, both going into an oven.
It was the most logical explanation to me
@@KaritheMortician Speaking of ovens. In India they often burn the dead on a pile of wood. An inferno. Anyways some of these cremation sites are near the Ganges river. Due to demand for spots, the bodies are often not fully cremated and so the rest of the body is dispatched to the river. People who swim or bathe in the river will come in close contact with the partially charred body floating down the river. Sometimes the deceased also become food for the crocodiles.
Love this analogy! 😆
Thank you! 😁
Ok, brought up another question... so, who checks for pacemakers or other battery operated implants? Is it the funeral home or the pizza guy (joke) at the crematorium? I’ve seen other videos, might be Caitlin, where she said she had to check and remove, if one was found....
No, it is up to the funeral director to check for and remove any pacemaker, or battery operated implants prior to turning the wooden casket or cardboard container over to the crematorium.
The family signs he authorization with a disclosure about the pacemaker and the embalmers will double check
I think they have a moving tract you can just lay the body on the track
The floor of the retort has no track
I wonder if anyone ever tried to bake a pizza in a retort.
gross
,Are bodies taken out of the expensive coffins and put in cardboard boxes ?? If so what happens to the casket you have paid lots of money for ?? Thank you.!!
With my experience, for the wake we " rented" the coffin, then afterwards the cremation process went as it normally would.
You are cremated in what you purchase.
great video, quick and simple. Now I wont be able to eat pizza for a while.
Oh no!
So aren't the bodies that the crematories receive boxed up after they get there?
Yes usually
Sorry I read that backwards
How can the tiniest of tiny babies be cremated?
IN a small tray and a low burn
Your so pretty!!!🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹
Thank you!!
@@KaritheMortician your welcome!!🌹🌹🌹🌹
Won’t a very large pizza paddle do? Sorry, I couldn’t resist 😃
nope
Question not exactly pertaining to this video.
Question: If you have a burial plot paid for but not your funeral paid for..... how do you get put into your burial plot when you die????
Thank you for the explanation. I do understand the need for some kind of containment in order to properly place the body. I am trying to decide which option i prefer for my own death. I have buried my first born and mother. My husband wanted to be cremated. I abided by my husbands wishes then i burried some of the ashes in our family plot . I bought a head stone with his info as well as mine on it. I am thinking I may prefer cremation also and my ashes be placed along side my husbands under our joint headstone. . Not 100% sure but leaning to that as of now. I think cremation is more sanitary and cleaner for the earths water table. I am against the embalming procedures as I feel it is undignified as well as to invasive to the decreased. My opinion only.
A very interesting video Kari 😸
Thank you! 😃
Now everytime i go and put something in my oven im gonna think of this video
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Now that I hear it, that makes total sense. 🍕⚰️
Thanks!
Thank you for the explanation. I always thought the cardboard box or wooden cremation casket were to help with the burning process - kind of like adding more wood to a bonfire to make the flames stronger. Maybe the cardboard and wood helps? Always a joy seeing your videos!
Thank you so much
Awesome video❤❤❤
Thanks for the visit
Good morning ☀️
Happy Tuesday!
@@KaritheMortician happy Tuesday Kari I hope all is well . I just wanted to say thank you for all the great advice.. thanks to you I have been able to go after my dreams and now they are coming along nicely.
Odd question kari but since your around death and dead bodies everyday do you have nightmares about dead bodies? Like them coming back to life or something?
No I really do not
@@KaritheMortician your lucky. The people I saw dead and I know that died I have nightmares about. Also I take it that all funeral directors and medical examiner s are extremely thin because as much as I like eating after being around dead people all day long the last thing I wanna do is eat. I may wanna have a drink though a strong one
You don’t have a sliding tray/table that moves in and out?????
no
Kari the cutie.
If I was 25 years younger and wealthy, I’d be giving you a run for your money!
Aww thanks!
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Now that we’re on the topic, do you use something to absorb leakage in the box while awaiting cremation, or do you bag the body?
They will be in a body bag sometimes if there is leaking
A really good and easy to understand example.
As for the pizza...I could probably do it Calazone style but folding Grandma to get her into the retort? I THINK NOT!
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So. It. Don't. Go. In. Ground. Water
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Body. Joice
So they won't run away?
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Hi kari are you going to California soon.
Possibly
@@KaritheMortician im so happy u comin....
Do they come already in the box or do they have to out them in it
The funeral home places them in it
What a out rigor
What about it?
I'm gonna miss Uncle Pepperoni 💔 🍕
And auntie Olive
@@geedubb2005 Good one!! ✌🍕
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Because your moving "DEAD" weight....just a bit of Undertaking humor.....
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Now, the real reason: So the crematory/Funeral Home can charge $75-?225 or more for $6.00 worth of cardboard. Why Don’t these videos tell the truth???? Shame on you all
I could not be more honest
@@KaritheMortician what about the service attendants picking up from Hospitals, nursing homes morgues etc? Are you going to tell me they are licensed????? So your handling of deceased persons is really quite lame. And what about the hair?? Have a good week- end.
@@KaritheMortician still waiting a reply on licensing requirement to handle deadies ie removal employees, attendants, apprentices. Also, asking the location where bodies we handled/processed-????
Hmmm strange this is showing up in my feed. Unless ... The melanoma still lurking 😳 God sent you?
TH-cam algorithms :)