The Rise & Fall Of The "Console Killer" PC

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  • @jaertosilva7382
    @jaertosilva7382 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Fighting the series s is especially hard .

    • @sosukelele
      @sosukelele ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah, that's a fight that can't be won on even grounds

    • @anarchyandempires5452
      @anarchyandempires5452 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Hello there calling you guys from the end of 2023 Yeah we still can't kill that little bastard It's a goddamn honey badger!!!!
      Seriously the closest piece of silicon you can get to its graphics processor on a budget is the RX 5500 XT which you can sometimes SOMEtimes get for about a $150 when it's on sale or when you buy it used.
      That's the graphics card alone That's not even taking it to consideration the CPU which you need an ryzen 7 2700x which will run you a cool $200 on sale new or around 120 used.
      Yeah for those keeping notes brand new and on sale that's already over $350.... Yeah..... Not a good start considering we haven't even taken into account the RAM the SSD the power supply or really anything else, 550, Right now if you want it brand new and only if you find yourself with some massive discounts you are looking at around $550 to match the series s again that is with some mega hefty discounts.
      Or if you somehow manage to find yourself with some ultra heavy discounts because you were lucky that particular day on a blue moon or because you got yourself some used parts that are ridiculously low price you are still looking at $450.
      But you know that's fine, considering the rate of depreciation on the parts by next year you should be able to build a series s killer for around $300 with some good discounts and only a few used parts...... Except the Series s will drop price to $250 next year because there's going to be a new series s with better components and a 1 terabyte hard drive releasing next year or the year after that for $300.
      On better news however we might be able to beat the series X.... With used parts on discount... Not necessarily the leaked Series X all digital or PS5 digital..... I mean used parts and heavy discounts will probably get you to 450.... But those things are going to be sold for 400 bucks...... Or you know about 350 used for the PS5 considering the leaks for the Xbox say it's going to come with a 1-year subscription to game pass I don't think we're going to see any used Xbox sx digitals on the market next year.

    • @Перчатки
      @Перчатки 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@anarchyandempires54525500xt is bad example. vega 56 on samsung can be flashed to 64 and undervolted to match 5600xt EASILY with most being capable of 1080/ti ballpark for 70$

    • @Перчатки
      @Перчатки 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      also ryzen 1200 is just barely enough and with a320 and cheapest storage and ram you'll pay no more than 250

  • @DrearierSpider1
    @DrearierSpider1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Yes, please do more video essays. I love your normal video format, and don't want to see that go away, but this was really well researched & presented, as well as informative.

    • @IcebergTech
      @IcebergTech  3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thanks! I’m hoping for a good response to this, I have a handful of ideas that might be worth building an essay out of. This one has taken about five months from script to publication, so don’t expect them to be a regular occurrence!

    • @kparserpcs6699
      @kparserpcs6699 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IcebergTech do more please

  • @NoseMain
    @NoseMain ปีที่แล้ว +10

    as for today (april 27, 2023) I finally managed to build 2 entire gaming pcs for around 700usd for both. It took me more than 5 years of work, and 7 of savings (I am from a very poor country and minimum salary is less than 180usd per month). My current specs are i5 8500 rtx 3060ti 16gb 2666mhz dual (2x8) p650m 80plus bronze and a ryzen 3 3100 gtx 1060 3gb 600w 80plus white 16gb 2666mhz (2x4 and 1x8). U might argue about bottleneck and other things to improve, and I already know that, but I can say I am definitely happy with what I have achieved, being the 200usd rtx 3060ti I bought (now is 160usd) the best buy I could possibly do, making my whole budget around 720usd for both computers. It was a long journey, and I had to make many things to achieve it, changing processors and reselling computers along the whole process of improving my own. It was incredible, and I enjoyed it, I encourage any pc enthusiast to buy on the used market such as this channel has offered to do in their videos.
    I don't really know how many people will read this, hopefully just the creator and some others, but I just want to say that I hope others can enjoy this process as much as I did. Thank you very much Iceberg for your videos, keep it going!

  • @Kennephone
    @Kennephone ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The GPU shortage didn't even START to end until early 2022, and it wasn't until later in the year where prices were down to somewhat reasonable prices. In November 2021 I bought a Gigabyte Aero 15 with a i7 9750H, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, 1660ti, and a 4K OLED screen for $1500, it was great coming from a 4130T with integrated graphics, but even at the time it wasn't a powerhouse, and still cost a ton. Even today it cost $1200, but most of that is probably cause of the screen, but at the height of the shortage I thought is was a good deal cause that GPU would have been probably $400 alone. I wound up buying one in late summer 2022 for $200 to go with my 12100 build, which is the system I still use and is also the first one I've ever built from scratch. The laptop wound up being stolen from my apartment 6 months after I bought it, along with a bunch of pre 1965 silver coins, and that's when I decided to move out of that crackhouse.

  • @wulfone5961
    @wulfone5961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I upgraded to a RTX 2070 Super in 2019 and I am still using it. I upgraded from an Intel i7 6700 to an R7 3700x in 2020. It was a CPU I bought for my first ever PC build in 2016. But it's 2022 and the GPU prices are decreasing but they are still way over MSRP. But when a GPU that cost $500 is going for $1,200 prices aren't going to come down that quickly.

  • @southerndurden7618
    @southerndurden7618 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    It'd be interesting to know the discount rate for console makers since they buy bulk GPUs. Supposedly the lastest consoles are sold at a loss, as the service fees and their store make up the difference and profit.

    • @lizardinthelites
      @lizardinthelites ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Same is true for Valve's Steam Deck. Handheld gaming PC more or less equivalent to a PS4 for $399. Other handheld PC competitors are $999 at the low end. Valve even said they are selling at a loss on the hardware and plan to make it up through Steam video game sales.

    • @GyroCannon
      @GyroCannon ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@lizardinthelites I'm 100% sure that's the case for their lowest end model. The 512 GB version is probably close to cost. 512 GB SSDs and a better display don't cost that much, especially not the $300 difference to the low end model

  • @T.Lspitz
    @T.Lspitz ปีที่แล้ว +4

    More video essays please! I love watching video essays on cars and firearms and the history of pretty much anything including computers and tech. So i say yes to more! This video was excellent!

  • @JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe
    @JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe ปีที่แล้ว +116

    A year later and not much has changed. You could get a series s brand new for £190 recently and you'd have to spend probably £400 on the used market to match it's performance.

    • @sosukelele
      @sosukelele ปีที่แล้ว +4

      £400 seems like a low-ball, but maybe I'm overestimating the series s.

    • @flamingscar5263
      @flamingscar5263 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      at least here in the states you can match (with the used market) the price and performance (minus raytracing but who really uses raytracing) of the PS5, the rx 5700xt is going for $150
      for the series S, no, Microsoft has to be taking a MAJOR loss on that, you can't even come close

    • @HelloTher1313
      @HelloTher1313 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It frustrates me so much how regular people constantly fail to consider long term costs in everything they consume. What about online subscriptions, more expensive accessories and games, lack of access to piracy and more general control over your device, etc?

    • @zaidlacksalastname4905
      @zaidlacksalastname4905 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's like cheap printers with expensive ink. Money's in game pass

    • @CrocoDylianVT
      @CrocoDylianVT ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@HelloTher1313 literally
      Console wins in price
      PC wins in everything else

  • @janwitkowsky8787
    @janwitkowsky8787 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Apart from the first two minutes, this is one of my favorite tech-vids on youtube.

  • @ronchum5178
    @ronchum5178 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow, crazy how good this video is. Should have way more views than it does.

  • @YBPaladin
    @YBPaladin ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I never really had a console killer because by the time I had enough money to get a decent gpu, the gpu market was taken over by miners and then chip shortage. My 580 should get a purple heart at this point

    • @Bukki13
      @Bukki13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      stupid question but: rx 580 or gtx 580?

    • @YBPaladin
      @YBPaladin ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Bukki13 rx 💞🥰

  • @TheAkustikus
    @TheAkustikus ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This Video is so good i watch it every now and then. These Essay Style Videos are great but i think really tedious to make and clickwise not that appealing sadly. Keep up the good work.

  • @theburger_king
    @theburger_king ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How did I not see this video, it’s so amazing your videos have amazing quality I can’t wait for you to hit 100k

  • @PlanetLinuxChannel
    @PlanetLinuxChannel ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, despite being one of your earlier videos, this is pure gold! Fantastic work!

  • @XInfinity2024
    @XInfinity2024 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video. I will have to say that one thing I hate is when those "Console Killer" pc builds try to beat the price of the console but then don't start following up with what the PC can be if you took the XBL or PS+ cost and put that into the PC over time

  • @ROFLPirate_x
    @ROFLPirate_x ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Fast forward to nearly 2023. There still isn't a viable console killer, Ethereum crashed in price, went to proof of stake so no longer possible to effectively mine on a GPU. Many miners so dogmatically convinced that it's worth keeping their hardware because something else will be a way to convert electricity into gold. Nvidia is starving the market of 2 year old "new" RTX cards keeping them ABOVE their MSRP, and with the trend in new GPU price to performance, we won't see a viable console killer this generation either.
    AMD GPU'S, even with big reductions on "New" cards and Ryzen 5000 CPU's still aren't viable as console killers. So even if you can grab a used 6600 for £180-£200, a new/used 5600 for £130-£150 factor in some cheap ddr4 a mobo, case, SSD and PSU, you will still be looking at minimum about £480 And still probably won't have the full gaming potential of a 9th gen console. Sure, you could go for a Ryzen 1000-2000 CPU, but they have surprisingly held their value and are difficult to get cheaper than the better and more recent R5 5600. Now, 2 years into this console generation we are looking at a refresh coming soon. Where we could be seeing greater performance. Where will the console killer stand then?
    It's definitely possible to upgrade your way to console performance with a GPU; but you will more than likely be paying 50-75% of the price of a console to get their.
    Sure, PC has more functionality, but it lacks the easy nature of a console. Consoles are very "living room TV" friendly, meaning, they won't be dying anytime soon.
    Is the console killer dead? Or will the PC marketplace start having to reflect the console Price/performance as the economy dips into another recession? Gamers on a budget have no better option than a console it seems, and although lacking in total functionality, the simplicity of a console, makes it much easy to sit down Infront of at the end of a long day.

  • @raxcentalruthenta1456
    @raxcentalruthenta1456 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Yeah. Nvidia 4000 series has launched. Crypto bubble already burst and GPUs are still wildly expensive. A "console killer" pc is still no more possible now than it was when this video came up.

    • @Neo_Xero
      @Neo_Xero ปีที่แล้ว +2

      not so sure about that. I'm seeing used 5700XTs on ebay for

    • @Mantis_Shrimp99
      @Mantis_Shrimp99 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It all depends on what you want I guess

  • @101qberty
    @101qberty ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That intro cracked me up so much I spilled my coffee. 🤣

  • @DuneRunnerEnterprises
    @DuneRunnerEnterprises ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh man, Bryan IS the man.
    He's been quiet lately...

  • @elliottpalmer7624
    @elliottpalmer7624 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was fantastic! More essays please.

  • @peterwhite9546
    @peterwhite9546 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "will need to wait for rtx 4000 for prices to drop." comedy.

  • @BoHorror
    @BoHorror 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Love the detailed analysis, keep up the good work. Here is my solution for a wicked console killer though , let me know what you think. I7 8700k clocked up to 5.0ghz, GTX 1080ti (has peformance that closley mirrors a RTX 2080 and a RTX 3060) and then stuff all the other parts along with it, should be about 1030USD. (I'm pricing the stuff here, according to the stuff you can find in South Africa). Would be cool if you ever tried a build like that though

  • @basbas63
    @basbas63 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    PC ports are often so bad these days, regarding stutter or crashes until later patches, that I wonder if it is even worth it anymore.
    Got a pretty high end system (5800X3D / RTX 3080) but am mostly using my Xbox Series X and things are more enjoyable on that Xbox thing.
    Got a nice 4k screen, accepted 60hz on Xbox and don't care much about going back to having pc as a main system.
    Pc buyers remorse? Yes, unfortunately, yes. Always used to be a pc gamer first but idk anymore.

    • @Demopans5990
      @Demopans5990 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is still the indie scene that is mostly exclusive to the PC and mobile ecosystem. A lot of 3A games just aren't worth it

    • @bapponoflacko
      @bapponoflacko ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds like you lying
      Not gonna lie lmao

  • @robstramma
    @robstramma 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love video essays.
    I love pc builds and console killer builds.
    Where have you been all my life?
    Anyway, I love your videos, consider yourself subscribed!

  • @MaXLebel
    @MaXLebel ปีที่แล้ว +7

    almost 2 years later and you're starting to see gpus around their msrp. Still not enough to be considered a console killer(specially with how cheap you can get a series S), but depending on AMD this gen, who knows. Otherwise I think we may have to wait for RTX 5000 / RX 8000 to come.

    • @qwerty6789x
      @qwerty6789x ปีที่แล้ว +2

      you'll see xbox series at $500 and PS5 at $400 in some resellers. GPU prices is still whack in my region

  • @harveykauffman1448
    @harveykauffman1448 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i absolutely loved that intro.

  • @kparserpcs6699
    @kparserpcs6699 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    superb editing

  • @IceClawz.
    @IceClawz. 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2014-2019 had to be the best years being a pc builder.prices where fine, parts were abundant. Still remember building my first gaming machine out of an old optiplex, upgrading the cpu and then putting a r9 270 in it.

  • @andrewmichatha2628
    @andrewmichatha2628 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You deserve more views. Keep up the good work

  • @madcat4563
    @madcat4563 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This essay was great to watch.

  • @alexme6521
    @alexme6521 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    why didn't i wach this earlier its sooooooo cool, love the vid

  • @thefinalroman
    @thefinalroman ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Potato masher guy got so triggered when I called him out. He had to constantly upgrade it and it still got trashed by the PS4. He tried a "Pro" version and that got trashed too. He had every excuse in the book but in the end Console reigned supreme.
    For historical context 2005 Xbox 360 runs 2015 Rise of the Tomb raider very well with good graphics/performance but a 2005 Pc will NEVER even boot the game.

  • @franross4863
    @franross4863 ปีที่แล้ว

    amazing video mate

  • @CrocoDylianVT
    @CrocoDylianVT 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think the craziest is that not even the Series S, being the weakest one can be killed by a PC because of its sheer cheapness

  • @andystech101
    @andystech101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I missed this one but honestly I don’t think I’ve seen a better video intro 🤣🤣🤣

  • @stephenbaluran3298
    @stephenbaluran3298 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just saw this. This was very well done! And yeah, like you, I don't want to live in a world where console gamers are right. LOL

  • @yahyasajid5113
    @yahyasajid5113 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ooo a 28min video, gonna be good

  • @Glebean
    @Glebean ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1 year later and this is only getting worse 1700$ USD for a GPU! Literally the price of 3 PS5's and 300$ for games..... And that's just the GPU 😢

  • @DrearierSpider1
    @DrearierSpider1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As someone who thought the 8th gen consoles were trash in most respects, the value the 9th gen machines offer is astounding. It's a shame that they too are suffering from shortages and scalpers, but as you said console market's prospects for normalcy look far better than that of GPU's.
    I'm still sticking to my PC, as it's my preferred platform for a number of reasons, and I already had a great rig prior to the CCP Virus. I even managed to get an Ampere GPU at MSRP, but even if I hadn't I would've rode out this nightmare with my old GTX 1080 just fine. If I had any friends looking to get into gaming right now though, I'd point them to a PS5 or XBSX, or a prebuilt if they were absolutely insistent on going with a PC.

  • @timsullivan9252
    @timsullivan9252 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn man I recently found your channel and I’m loving it!

  • @snapcount321
    @snapcount321 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We need a 2024 Q1 follow up Iceberg

  • @MrLense
    @MrLense ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Personally I've seen the console vs Pc war die because console exclusives are found and ported to PC now. Nearly every popular twitch streamer, content creator is on PC. The console became more a PC and a PC a console with Xbox being integrated right into windows and with the Steam deck showing the other way.

  • @clipzy5032
    @clipzy5032 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm technically a pcmr gamer yet still play on my switch and ps5 half the time 😂

    • @austinfowler2707
      @austinfowler2707 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have this same deal with my series x.
      The major problem is that my entire backlog is on the system, and with Gamepass, I can get good games.
      I won a pc with a 2600 and 1070ti which is still useful.
      But I also don't play new games.
      The next game I'm excited for is a Gears, Halo, or Mass effect.
      Something like that would get me to do a massive upgrade I'm hoping for, like the 7800x3d and 7900xtx. But until one of those games release...I'm not really interested in a PCMR experience.
      I just wanna experience the game...and I can do that on a console that already has 300+ owned games.

    • @clipzy5032
      @clipzy5032 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@austinfowler2707 I've been playing more on my pc recently i kinda go back and forth lol

    • @austinfowler2707
      @austinfowler2707 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @clipzy5032 I want to go more PC as as games show up on PC Xbox app where I can continue my Achievement grind, I'll likely move more to PC.
      My upgrade is to get a future proof PC that will last me around 5 years. Looking at Arma 3, Reforger, and 4 when it comes out.

    • @clipzy5032
      @clipzy5032 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@austinfowler2707 gl future proofing atm i had a system with 2020+ parts and its allready and 1080 med settings in most new games (rx 6700 and Radeon 5600x)

  • @pham3383
    @pham3383 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Zen 2 is now aging
    Zen 3 offer a 35 40% increase perf to gen 2
    Zen 4 offer a 35 40% increase perf to gen 3
    The same to gpu

  • @jasonking1284
    @jasonking1284 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What happened? Nvidia and AMD got too greedy and priced a lot of people out of PC Gaming...

    • @MrModaman
      @MrModaman 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      AMD is probably making more money selling APUs to Sony and MS than they are selling gaming GPUs.

  • @dorktales254
    @dorktales254 ปีที่แล้ว

    What an intro!

  • @jesuschrist711
    @jesuschrist711 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    two years later, gpu prices dropped dramatically, and....still aint doing it

  • @sosukelele
    @sosukelele ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, how did I miss this when it came out

  • @FacialVomitTurtleFights
    @FacialVomitTurtleFights ปีที่แล้ว

    This, the intro reminds me of DJ Peach Cobbler so much

  • @ryandumakude4845
    @ryandumakude4845 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn what an intro

  • @HyperScorpio8688
    @HyperScorpio8688 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3 years later, they are back even harder. It's almost like it's a cycle...

  • @indie_fisher
    @indie_fisher 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this stuff!

    • @BoHorror
      @BoHorror 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too

  • @darkmaster539
    @darkmaster539 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly, even now you can't beat the consoles. You just need to accept you're spending more on a PC that is slightly better.

  • @ChickenPopGames
    @ChickenPopGames 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a PS5 and really want to buy a PC to get a better experience but it looks as if I have to pay £1500+ to beat it 😞

    • @IcebergTech
      @IcebergTech  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Got a "PS5 equivalent" build video lined up for the end of the month. I believe it cost me just under £1300.

    • @ChickenPopGames
      @ChickenPopGames 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I ended up buying a pre-built 3070 from Currys and it is awesome, definitely beats PS5 performance

    • @SonGoku-hi8ow
      @SonGoku-hi8ow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ChickenPopGames does curry’s deliver in the USA?

    • @ChickenPopGames
      @ChickenPopGames 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SonGoku-hi8ow don’t know but PC Specialist may do as they built it

    • @SonGoku-hi8ow
      @SonGoku-hi8ow 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChickenPopGames ok thank u

  • @anandurajendran3864
    @anandurajendran3864 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your videos remind me of greenhamgaming

    • @IcebergTech
      @IcebergTech  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's very kind, though I don't think I have his dramatic flare!

  • @MrPragnienie1993
    @MrPragnienie1993 ปีที่แล้ว

    What game is it at 6:15?

  • @06dpa
    @06dpa ปีที่แล้ว +1

    20:38 That didn't age well...

  • @DovahRS
    @DovahRS ปีที่แล้ว

    I quite enjoyed this video

  • @OlaftheGreat
    @OlaftheGreat 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Those takes on graphic card prices dropping aged very poorly, r.i.p.

  • @axelpenny
    @axelpenny 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this video need more views

  • @shadowman_390
    @shadowman_390 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your content.

  • @pf100andahalf
    @pf100andahalf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm posting from a year in the future and while we didn't get a "golden age" of cheap parts, there are things like used 3080's for $500 so it's not all bad now.

  • @Liinuli.
    @Liinuli. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well I actually can say that the era of console killers may be returning. I checked the used markets and a used PS5 disc edition costs 500 euros here. While for 514 euros I was able to configure a system with:
    Ryzen 7 3700x (100 euros combo with an Asus B450 Prime MB)
    RX 6700xt Powercolor Hellhound (200 euros)
    16gb 3200mhz ddr4 G Skill Ripjaw (35 euros someone was selling new old stock)
    1tb Adata Legned 710 SSD (49 euros brand new, alright far from PS5 SSD)
    Deepcool PK650D PSU (65 euros brand new)
    Antec P182 case (20 euros plus 5 euros for a new fan)
    A Blu Ray Burner (40 euros, because without that I would be comparing this to a used digital edition)

  • @kidsythe
    @kidsythe ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm like 2 seconds in. So I'm saying scalpers are the problem.

  • @azadragibnehal2132
    @azadragibnehal2132 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:55 game name?

  • @AhmedTSN
    @AhmedTSN ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Make a follow up video mate, the time has come we caught up already, The RTX 2080 cloud be found regularly for less than $220, I just bought mine a week ago for $198, my total build costed me $650 but that because I built slim SFF build (11.5 L) small parts are always more expensive for some reason

  • @jiggerypokery2962
    @jiggerypokery2962 ปีที่แล้ว

    3060 match the consoles Pshaw. It's closer to the Ti especially in first party games.

  • @chomper720
    @chomper720 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These days so many years later a Ryzen 5 3600 + RX 6600 XT will do the job if you find them at the right price.

  • @davidquee8728
    @davidquee8728 ปีที่แล้ว

    it is impossible for any of these machines to be classified a console killer no matter the price PC has a huge issue and is plagued with cheaters

  • @probablygrim
    @probablygrim ปีที่แล้ว

    Still haven't got proper direct storage yet... Maybe 2 games 🤣

  • @blindmown
    @blindmown 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My PC is a console killer, but it's killing PS8's and Xbox Series Y's

  • @estate-tidus1007
    @estate-tidus1007 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Aged like fine wine now that that Xbox series x is 350$

  • @andremurilo2003
    @andremurilo2003 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    and now in 2024 we Have ai processing and console killers are still unatainable

  • @snakeplissken1754
    @snakeplissken1754 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The fun part is that consoles actually killed themselves and are nothing but PCs kept alive by even being sold at a loss.
    Yet there will always be a demand for people for which an actual PC is to complicated.
    The console k*ller PC was however doomed from the start. As it still was to complicated for console folks aside anything else.
    That said, you by a console then you agree with being sold the lesser experience in any game and unlike PCs it will never change from there on.

    • @PurushNahiMahaPurush
      @PurushNahiMahaPurush 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I write code for a living and I’m attracted to consoles. A PC is not too complicated for me but for me, gaming time is premium. That and I cannot be bothered to deal with Windows 11 and it’s garbage, more than I have to at my work. I don’t want to come home from work after sitting in front of my PC for 8 hours, only to sit in front of my PC again.
      This is why consoles are great for me. Couch gaming with access to games instantly. Also I like physical ownership of my games, something which is dead on PC. Most of my games on my PlayStation 5 are on discs.

  • @I3ordo
    @I3ordo ปีที่แล้ว +3

    it still not really possible to match A Ps5's smooth experience even with the latest and the greatest... It is just not possible without doubling the bandwith along with minimizing the latency between the CPU/GPU/Memory,the latter being the "impossible" part unless you know how to tape them all together. And there is "uncompressing chip" that boost streaming of assets 3x times more faster than a top of line PC hardware...

    • @alen2937
      @alen2937 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You might speak fr yourself in this case.

  • @joshuachristiansen2626
    @joshuachristiansen2626 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One thing a lot of people forget to mention is while YES the consoles are powerful with "basically a 3700x and basiclly a 6700xt"
    They run on an APU. The CPU side of that APU might have 8 cores and run at 3.7ghz but it only has what? 3MB of cache? Somewhere around that number and Maybe a 15-20w TDP.
    3700x has the same cores and slightly higher speeds but it has tripple the cash and can run with more power going to it for longer. And the Gpu may have similar cores and speeds but it has tripple the memory and its not shared RAM its dedicated
    The specs make it look close to a 3700x but theres a lot of forgotten factors like way less cache. Way lower tdp. It will thermal throttle. It has 16gb of RAM and 2 or maybe more GB of that is shared with the built in GPU which again takes away the resources of the CPU.
    A 3700x 6700XT cpu gpu combo will eat a ps5 and xbox s alive. So will any modern system.
    My two cents.

    • @IcebergTech
      @IcebergTech  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not to give too much away just yet, but you might find this Friday's upcoming video interesting

  • @aloneinmylimbo
    @aloneinmylimbo ปีที่แล้ว

    why does this have so few views jesus christ AND YES I THOUGHT YOU GAVE ME XBOXAHOY VIBES LMAO

  • @Bragthepro
    @Bragthepro ปีที่แล้ว

    Look, just admit it there’s no possible way to ever be a consoles price 500 bucks to get a next generation device that has all types of games Plus, you can get around 1500 with a $15 subscription, beat that PC

  • @LizardHunter777
    @LizardHunter777 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still just waiting on that crash...lol

  • @EMBERKE56
    @EMBERKE56 ปีที่แล้ว

    I spend more on hardware but I win it back by buying games retardedly cheap and not paying for multiplayer access.

  • @ArtjomsSivickis
    @ArtjomsSivickis 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Watching in 2023. You can kill a console now

  • @zhongxina9420
    @zhongxina9420 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We will finally have hope when Nvidia releases a sub 200$ rtx 4050 that matches the 3060

    • @zethloveless7238
      @zethloveless7238 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol not gonna happen as the new 4060 even loses to the 3060 sometimes. 50 series are always just trash period

    • @zhongxina9420
      @zhongxina9420 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zethloveless7238 one can only dream where nvidia is not the greedy bastards that they are😂

  • @lamhkak47
    @lamhkak47 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking at today, it seems that other than the first year of the new console launch (as well as shitty GPU market we're having now), console-killing PCs will always make a come back as Moore's Law is still maintained, and that no company can quickly up-generation their consoles like those for PC parts.

  • @kparserpcs6699
    @kparserpcs6699 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Being the 5th viewer and being the first comment

  • @dogbear140
    @dogbear140 ปีที่แล้ว

    i actually recently built a console killer (sort of) core i5 7400 from a goodwill desktop, ex crypto mining h110mc, and a gtx 980 for under and a goodwill sealed power supply all for under 250 dollars it kills a switch and a series s but not the series x or ps5

  • @zetahalo
    @zetahalo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    300€ for a 1650 happened

  • @silver1407
    @silver1407 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ask I shall receive...

  • @-FOXX
    @-FOXX ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah still no change really

  • @JeredtheShy
    @JeredtheShy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi there, 2 year old video in my feed for no good reason. Turns out the "console killers" went away because in 2021 you had to sell a kidney to get a GPU so never mind building a "console killer" PC for 600ish dollars, not happening. But you're a ghost now, so I guess you can never learn.

  • @TheMissingxtension
    @TheMissingxtension 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As long as Nvidia is focused on RTX and DLSS we are screwed. They low spec machines holding the whole industry back. The problem with the console is that its no longer a console, its using pc components, it has pc features, you can install harddisk like a pc, but they are not a pc. Computer games have become so low quality its no longer worthwhile, no developer is going to make something that doesn't run on a console.

  • @timk9440
    @timk9440 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bought a XFX rx 580 8gb OC Black on ebay for $60 a few weeks ago! Console killers are back!

  • @banks3388
    @banks3388 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a joke, most people who actually look at the current gen console fidelity knows that the games are running in low and have worse ray tracing... you also don't need a powerful PC to get console level performance at 1080p/1440p which is all you need considering the PS5 can't run most modern AAA games at 4K with a consistent frame rate. The best bit you did is trying to push the idea that the 8th gen consoles had magical performance when the reality is that they were obsolete on launch (which is why they got so many reiterations)...

  • @Italian_Isaac_Clarke
    @Italian_Isaac_Clarke ปีที่แล้ว

    Even if one has to start from absolute 0 either chosing a console or a PC (completely or partially new), a PC still can do more (in general tasks and in games from the past) and WILL last longer than consoles; furthermore upgrades to a computer don't need to replace the entire thing, and good luck if you want to add more RAM or change the CPU on a console instead.
    Right now, as a person on the poorer side of the economy, I confidently and shamelessly say that IF your ONLY goal is to game at 1080/1440p 60FPS, then an Xbox Serie S is the best and only console that you should even take into consideration. If you want to pay more to get a Serie X or a No Games 5, then you should consider paying what WOULD BE PAID FOR ONLINE ON CONSOLE immediately for PC (3 years of online is €180), getting €700 togheter, or even more, and just get a good computer now.
    "But le graphics!" someone may say, and once again, IF you only care about the three games that came out of these new consoles' graphics, then get a Serie S, if you instead plan to do more (as said above) then get a decent CPU, compromise on graphics and wait for a better upgrade in the future.
    To frivolously spend money is the privilege of the rich and the mistake of the spoiled.

  • @elquenuncadesaparece
    @elquenuncadesaparece 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    on crisis times: many hated consoles
    and on 2024: no one even demonizes or hear cinistic guys talking about how bad the PS5 actually was
    CAUSE IT KICKED THEIR ASS!!!!! AND IT WAS A SUCESS FOR THOSE WHO COUDNT PAY A 150 000 USD PC!!!!! it gave games to those who coudnt afford them, at a discount!!!

  • @Tonba1
    @Tonba1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Console killers never popped up until a few years after the release of a console, whining that there werent console killers less than a fucking YEAR after the release of the ps5 and SX is just dumb, here we are now 3 years later and you can build a ps5 equivalent pc NEW for admittedly 130 more than a ps5 BUT through steam sales and No online memberships you can quickly make that back, Plus if you go used you can and will match the ps5

  • @snapdragon9300
    @snapdragon9300 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was a playstation fan right up to ps4. But my wireless quest 2 Vr headset and 6900xt and 8 core I7 11700f 32gb ddr 4 ram with 4 terabyte storage will crush your PS5 easily.
    And it will take several years before it becomes 'obsolete ' Even seven yr old graphics cards will run modern titles at 1080p.
    Not only that but psvr isnt backwards compatible with older titles like pcvr.
    It doesnt have built in games to download direct, isnt wireless and doesnt have a fraction of what pcvr has on steam or occulus store!
    And also cd keys. And the games cost a lot less.

  • @allxtend4005
    @allxtend4005 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good joke we all know hoe much RTX4060 costs ... The pointless 16 gb version cost even more then a ps5 digital 😂

  • @IceClawz.
    @IceClawz. 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Considering consoles sell at a loss and only make money from players paying for online services, there will never be a true consile killer pc because consoles could literally be given away for free ,sony and Microsoft would just charge more for online

  • @axemods03
    @axemods03 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Consoles made sense back in the day but now with how pc's are powerful and versatile it's just better
    Don't even get me starded on proprietary hardware

    • @aboveaveragebayleaf9216
      @aboveaveragebayleaf9216 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Consoles make perfect sense for casual gamers, or kids. Pc is great, I love it, but it's not for everyone. Even though it can potentially beat the current gen consoles. Just not price wise.

    • @redslate
      @redslate ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You could make the argument that consoles are blurring the lines that define a "PC."

    • @aboveaveragebayleaf9216
      @aboveaveragebayleaf9216 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @redslate that's very true. Consoles starting to support mouse and keyboard too. I hope gyro aim becomes more common as cross-platform becomes the norm. Give both platforms viable aiming inputs, and get rid of aim assist.

    • @EthernetDasCoisas
      @EthernetDasCoisas ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@aboveaveragebayleaf9216 PC for gaming is making less and less sense as hardware prices inflate, & 'certain' companies fix prices way beyond what it should reasonably be. Hell, a build to match a PS5 would be 600-800USD now. If you want a PC mainly for gaming, I think it's better to save the buck for a console. If you want it for other things too, sure it's maybe worth the spend.

    • @aboveaveragebayleaf9216
      @aboveaveragebayleaf9216 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@EthernetDasCoisas I still think there's more to pc than raw performance, but I agree for AAA gaming/visuals. You can't beat the bang for buck with consoles.

  • @user-xh3nm8oe2l
    @user-xh3nm8oe2l ปีที่แล้ว

    'console killer' PCs start to gain popilarity somewhere after the middle of consoles' life since PC hardware is getting cheaper and consoles aren't