Honda CB750 Cafe Racer Part 8 - Engine diagnosis & tear down part 1

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  • @christophermiller1381
    @christophermiller1381 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm rebuilding an engine on my project cb750 dohc for the first time with no real experience or clue what I'm doing. I've found so many sohc videos but very few on the duals so you are now my hero. Thank you so much for these helpful videos.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amazing, best of luck with yours, I'll be measuring the crank and ports in next week's video so more coming.

  • @wacker2286
    @wacker2286 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My favourite build on TH-cam at the moment!

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Amazing, I'm glad you like it.

  • @rmulchi
    @rmulchi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’d bet a dollar that the low compression is due to valve issues and not ring issues. The rings on these bikes are solid but more times than not, people disregard checking the valves and then they run into problems, like bent and or burned valves.
    If you run the clearances by the book, you’ll end up with burned valves. Run a clearance of .13mm with a range of .11mm to .15mm.
    My bike was showing between 100 and 130 psi across all cylinders and after swapping burned/bent valves, valve stem seals and new shims, the pressure went up to 160psi.
    The metal shavings, that’s another animal.
    Good luck and am looking forward to see the progress.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting call, the shims are definitely too tight which makes me think the valves won't have enough room to rest, but the oil increasing it makes me want to change the rings, just for peace of mind too for the price.

    • @rmulchi
      @rmulchi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For The Bold - dreegez,
      Since you’re going to be in there, might as well change the rings then. Good luck and looking forward to the next video

  • @tonyrichengod9280
    @tonyrichengod9280 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    MAN! I'm having so much fun watching this series! I am new to bike building and your videos are AMAZINGLY DETAILED and easy to follow . Thank you! SUBSCRIBED!

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Excellent. Glad you’re enjoying he series. Thanks for subscribing

  • @squeakyice-cream441
    @squeakyice-cream441 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the engine builds! I learn so much from them. I hope this one's not too much trouble :)

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it should get easier the lower down I get,.

  • @woodywoodpecker2708
    @woodywoodpecker2708 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a massive project this is. Good luck, I keep my fingers crossed you'll figure this baby out in the end. I'll continue watching with much intrigue. BTW: your cinematography skills are growing in lockstep with your engineering skills. I'll stay tuned.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah it's going to be a fun one. It's a pity I don't get much time to refine the cinematography as it is part of my proper job, it's just the limited timescale of creating these videos that inhibit better productions.

  • @tonybrett7974
    @tonybrett7974 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You may also have a problem replacing the cracked cam clamp, I had a similar issue on a CB900 many moons ago with a broken rev counter drive cam clamp. I was informed at the time that whole head would need to be replaced as these clamps are machined in situ during manufacture so are unique to that particular head & not replaceable individually. Ended up giving the whole lot away to a friend of a friend.......if I knew then what I know now!

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Going to look into it, might end up being a fix it job.

    • @ideas1710
      @ideas1710 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm having a similar issue on mine, the camshaft hodler is having a damaged thread... not possible to replace then? a friend told me about a fixing using Helicoil thread, as we already tried to remanufacture the thread with a thread tap...

  • @owen5834
    @owen5834 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like you will have your hands full here. Looking forward to part 2!

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's going to be fun.

  • @carltonolson6813
    @carltonolson6813 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great to see a in depth vid on breaking down the engine, I'll be doing the same to my CM400 just so I know it's fresh and ready when it goes back in. Keep the awesome videos coming 👍

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's the best way, if you do everything can 'could' go wrong in the future then you know that engine won't have to come out for a long time again.

  • @davidzvarich6762
    @davidzvarich6762 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What manuel are you using for the bike? Also, thanks for these videos. I'm currently tearing apart my engine now

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoy them. It’s the Honda factory manual.

  • @kinkythehunter
    @kinkythehunter 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the tips on this. I've just started rebuilding my '79 CB650 and even though the 750 is a bit different, the basics are pretty much the same. I do have 1 request though; looking at the engine, it has a lot of oxidation on the aluminum. If you clean and polish that yourself, could you devote an entire (hopefully very detailed) video to it?
    Can't wait to hear the 750 and CX500 running again.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Very easy to polish up the aluminium, and yeah I can make a video on it.

    • @marcusrspringer
      @marcusrspringer 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      if you're in a hurry, youtube search " how to polish a motorcycle engine" theres a guy with an old suzuki (im pretty sure suzuki anyways) that does a very in depth video of it! takes some time and attention to detail but its worth every minute when its done!

  • @ajwainscott7573
    @ajwainscott7573 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Can we get a link to cody’s channel

    • @after476
      @after476 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      th-cam.com/channels/mpL0CxrbzbsD6G0GE0P_DQ.htmlfeatured

  • @bakkaboi
    @bakkaboi 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you put a link to the service manual you're using? It looks better than the clymer one that I have.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Try this link
      www.cb750.com/threads/828-79-83-CB750-Service-Manual-in-PDF-Format

  • @joaoxufre9296
    @joaoxufre9296 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you please tell me if it was oil in the pulsar pick up case many thanks

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I honestly can't remember

  • @coldmetalcouk
    @coldmetalcouk 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are those pressures in the manual for a cold compression check? Always assumed they were on a warm engine. But loving the videos looking forward to the next.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They're from warm but no way of warming this up. I am allowing for a little expansion for the heat.

    • @coldmetalcouk
      @coldmetalcouk 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      For The Bold - dreegez yeah makes sense.

  • @lasseheltberg3442
    @lasseheltberg3442 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What book are you using? Is it at specific book for honda cb750? Any books you'll recommend for honda motors? Im going through my cb750 at the moment and want to work a bit on the engine :)

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah it's the factory manual

  • @camdenthompson5682
    @camdenthompson5682 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s your thoughts on doing a cafe racer build on a 83 Kawasaki kz1100

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      why not, I think any bike would be a good challenge.

    • @camdenthompson5682
      @camdenthompson5682 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thx for the input love the build series 👍🏻

  • @melvinnathan3024
    @melvinnathan3024 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    cant wait for part 2!!

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hopefully this Friday.

  • @bobdobbs7378
    @bobdobbs7378 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could be a good thing if you got to strip it down to the bear bones it will give e you a good chance to sort out all the engine cases.
    Enjoying this one big time keep up the good work

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely, a mix of painted and polished.

  • @deanhps
    @deanhps 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello from Australia. I’m a new subscriber and currently binging my way through your videos! Love what you do. I will be starting my first cafe racer project soon (ish) I’m tossing up between a cx500 and a bmw k100/1100.
    Just wondering what your thoughts are? Any pros & cons etc.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like both, the K engine is lovely, probably the better of the 2, the frame on the K100 though might be a little trickier than the CX500

    • @deanhps
      @deanhps 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      For The Bold - dreegez yeah, thanks. I’m leaning towards the bmw anyway. I laughed when you said the cx front end at £700 cost more than the bike- in Australia they start at $5000 and the k100 you can pick up for $2000 ish, so beemer it is! I guess I need to learn how to weld first. Thank heaven fo the University of TH-cam and fellows such as yourself!

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a lot compared to what I paid, but I have to say since I got mine the prices of CX500 have rocketed in the UK.

  • @MrAdam8419
    @MrAdam8419 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    looks like you have you work cut out for you, look forward to the progress.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah it's going to be a good one.

  • @markstevens3048
    @markstevens3048 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The good thing about Honda's are that they are dishwasher safe. You should be able to throw it on the bottom rack and it will be good as new. The wife will be happy that you are finally putting your stuff in the dishwasher instead of leaving it lying around on the counters as well. Basically a win, win.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      True, if I'm not on TH-cam next week you'll know it didn't go well.

    • @jonjon8298
      @jonjon8298 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      For The Bold - dreegez lol...

  • @leoleimgruber8148
    @leoleimgruber8148 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are Some big Bore kits so somewhat 832cc wich offers good to this completly destroyed engine

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Let's see what the customer thinks ;)

  • @spymaine89
    @spymaine89 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    how many miles were on that bike?

  • @scarecrow5927
    @scarecrow5927 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is going to get interesting!

  • @joaoxufre9296
    @joaoxufre9296 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks you are a gentleman,

  • @santiagocavazos3880
    @santiagocavazos3880 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What manual are you using? Doing the head gasket on mine

  • @absolutetuber
    @absolutetuber 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    please educate me. how the heck did you get an engine just sitting there on your workbench to turn over?!?

    • @coldmetalcouk
      @coldmetalcouk 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      absolutetuber I'm assuming he's just connecting the battery direct to the starter motor

    • @absolutetuber
      @absolutetuber 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      as i thought about it i realized how dumb my question was haha. probably what he’s doing. but i’m a noob trying to learn is all

    • @coldmetalcouk
      @coldmetalcouk 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      absolutetuber hey me too man, all have something to learn :)

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup, connect the battery direct to the starter motor.

    • @christophermiller1381
      @christophermiller1381 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I need to test the compression of my project 1980 cb650 chopper I bought, I've never heard it run and the front end was removed so throttle and electric start are no longer connected, could I just connect the battery to the starter like this and get an idea on the engines health by doing a test like This? I'm an absolute newbie to bike mechanics so sorry if it's a dumb question.

  • @gregthomas5822
    @gregthomas5822 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the videos but the shakey camera is tough to watch at times.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Too Bear Grills.

  • @alexlintern9779
    @alexlintern9779 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That engine is toast sadly. That is one hell of a lot of swarf-gunk that has been manufactured there. Probably gonna be cheaper to find another powerplant. Measure the bearing shells man!

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I like the challenge of the rebuild and then knowing that everything is new, whereas with another engine you never know when that next thing will go, rather do it all now and leave the engine in the frame once its in.

  • @benhawke7231
    @benhawke7231 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    As gooey as that sludge was, I doubt it ever had an oil and filter change. You've got your work cut out for you. Those cams still look good though.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True, I don't think it was well looked after.

  • @davydmir6565
    @davydmir6565 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    could be a perfect excuse to get the cylinders machined to a higher cc

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could be, I'll put it to the customer, a slight cost with OS pistons.

  • @olrenison
    @olrenison 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been doing all this last weekend on my 82 gsx400f. If you're not careful, it's easy to drop one of those stud nuts down into the crankcase, but I wouldn't be so careless....Oh no, not me...ahem.

  • @jpich85
    @jpich85 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video

  • @knowledgeguruji-qy5li
    @knowledgeguruji-qy5li 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to buy a honda cb450 motor with carb in low price and working in india

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hope you find one

  • @TheRyanweyh
    @TheRyanweyh 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey you sound a little better lol

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Back to 95% now ;)

  • @sevenity2677
    @sevenity2677 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Check out classic octane on TH-cam

  • @gmatty2975
    @gmatty2975 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    More metal shavings than Robo cops Dandruff!! That's a Subscribe right! ;0)

  • @ChaoticDetour
    @ChaoticDetour 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    It looks like that motor was really abused. Good luck with it.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wasn't well looked after that's for sure.

  • @spymaine89
    @spymaine89 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    you disappoint; instead of food this week, buy ''shop heat & ventilation''

  • @ThePacopistola
    @ThePacopistola 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    zapatero