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  • This Chevy Lumina needs to have it’s heads examined. With free-breathing Dual Over Head Cams (D.O.H.C.), the Z34’s special 3.4 liter V6 stood taller - and so much wider - that other Lumina power plants. But is it true you had to buzz it all the way to 5,200 rpm to get the goods?

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  • @miked8027
    @miked8027 ปีที่แล้ว +332

    There is a Snake on passenger side strut tower when Steve opens the hood.

    • @buddyg1408
      @buddyg1408 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Good eyeballs

    • @marioncobaretti2280
      @marioncobaretti2280 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I predict an animal will attack him

    • @andrewarney4222
      @andrewarney4222 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Had to rewind the video when I noticed the comment, good catch

    • @gregkellow4723
      @gregkellow4723 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Missed that the first time. Nice catch!

    • @johngranato2673
      @johngranato2673 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      That's Shelby using it as a toilet

  • @howardscott7521
    @howardscott7521 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    That 180 on the speedo looks to be kilometers. Must be a Canadian model. Translates into just about 112 mph

    • @Richaag
      @Richaag ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Correct! You can also see the water temp is in Celsius and it looks like the oil pressure is in Kilopascals. Definitely set up for a metric country.

    • @TheMailmanOfSteel
      @TheMailmanOfSteel ปีที่แล้ว +11

      All the gauges appear to be metric.

    • @razer2981
      @razer2981 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      If it's a Canadian model, that would make it a Zed034

    • @bennyt83
      @bennyt83 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yep was about to say the same

    • @googleusergp
      @googleusergp ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Correct, it has a metric cluster.

  • @MrJayrock620
    @MrJayrock620 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    2:30 You’ve got a Canuck Z34 there Steve, that Speedo is in KM/H. And I can confirm that they’ll do 180km/h I’ve been in a few that hit it

  • @robertchristie9434
    @robertchristie9434 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Drove a new Z34 coupe GM engineering pool car from the Oshawa Ontario assembly plant to Rochester Michigan. The GM engineer I was with had an extreme sinus headache & forgot his meds. He told me to get home as quickly as possible. No problem. Taking the 401 & 402 which are fabulous e-ways, we made it home in about 3 hours doing well over 150km on the 402. I was pleasantly surprised how well the Z34 was quick, composed, tight & rode very well on the highway. Very impressive car.

    • @roberthayes6329
      @roberthayes6329 ปีที่แล้ว

      That car wont do no 150mph.

    • @douglasdixon524
      @douglasdixon524 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@roberthayes6329 You didn't read it. 150 KILOMETERS PER HOUR which would be about 93 MILES PER HOUR.

    • @tdotw77
      @tdotw77 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      👀👓👀👓🤔🧐Time for the bifocals there bud, and\or reading comprehension 👍🏻👌🏻
      Never said 150 mph, it says 150 Kph!

  • @GeedsGarage
    @GeedsGarage ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I used to own a 93 Cutlass convertible with that same 3.4 DOHC. It was a fun car, but man was a pain in the ass to work on.

    • @LongIslandMopars
      @LongIslandMopars ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, a nightmare. Right engine, wrong application.

    • @dude...are-you-sure
      @dude...are-you-sure 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Just watched LSC do whole engine maintenance on his 92 cutlass with this motor and looked like a PITA to work on.

  • @theloudamerican2193
    @theloudamerican2193 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    My day simply isn’t complete without a junkyard crawl video. Thank you for your time , dedication, care, and support for all things automotive. Your channel is my absolute favorite on TH-cam.

  • @SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman
    @SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I had a red 2dr '94 Z34 from 1998-2010 & got 325,000 miles out of that baby with almost no issues, great car! ✌💖☮

    • @ErrorlVlacro
      @ErrorlVlacro 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Awesome. I just bought a 91 in red. Seems to either have a rebuilt or replacement engine. Well it has numbers written on it for miles with yellow at 55,000 or so. So not exactly sure. Mileage on ODO said 155,000. Doing what I can to keep her alive. My main daily.

    • @SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman
      @SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ErrorlVlacro thats great man! The 3.1 I had was an excellent engine

  • @jeffreycarleton1535
    @jeffreycarleton1535 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    My wife and I got a Chevy Lumina in 2000? It was a very dependable car!
    I’m glad I got the extended warranty though! The transmission surrendered and thankfully it was replaced!
    That warranty was the best 1300 dollars I ever spent! It was still a great car in my eyes!

  • @chrisscearce
    @chrisscearce ปีที่แล้ว +12

    HI Steve great video on this Z34. Theae were pretty good rides and definitely Dale Earnhardt helped out on Monday morning at the dealerships. Steve be careful out there even tho that wasn't a poisonous snake they still bite the tar out of you. They also make you hurt yourself getting away from them. I was once under a full-size long bed Ford that had been sitting for quite some time. So while I'm under the truck unhooking the driveshaft. A black snake must have been laying along the frame rail and rolled out across my chest. So inadvertently lowered my arms when it hit my chest.and sort of wrapped him under each armpit. When I realized what was happening I began to beat my head against everything under that truck trying to get out from underneath. When I finally got out from under the truck I was trying to get it off of me with my arms flailing in the air and dance moves only Fred Astaire and MJ could've done. Once the snake was off of me I had a huge egg shaped knot on my eye and a couple of cuts on my forehead. I had the worst case of the heebie jeebies that day also. I'm not afraid of snake per say but I like to see them 1st and they can go on about their business.
    ~Say, I've got the Heebies
    I mean the Jeebies
    Talking about
    The dance, the Heebie Jeebies
    Do, because they're boys
    Because it pleases me to be joy
    Say, don't you know it?
    You don't know how; don't be blue
    Someone will teach you
    Come on and do that dance
    They call the Heebie Jeebies dance
    Yes, ma'am
    Papa's got the Heebie Jeebies dance
    Say, come on now and do that dance
    They call the Heebie Jeebies dance
    Sweet mama
    Papa's got to do the Heebie Jeebies dance
    Woo, got the Heebie Jeebies
    Whatcha doin' with the Heebies?
    I just have to have the Heebies~written by the great Boyd Atkins🎷 and sung by the one and only Louis Armstrong 🎺 Y'all have a blessed day 🤙🏼 Namaste 🙏🏼

    • @catsaregovernmentspies
      @catsaregovernmentspies ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That story is nightmare fuel. Thanks alot

    • @jeffreycarleton1535
      @jeffreycarleton1535 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I’m sorry you injured yourself! However ,I must confess, that my visual of this episode you endured, gave me fits of laughter! I mean like rolling! 😂 great story!
      I needed that!

  • @Boxelder1
    @Boxelder1 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I really like that you bring the magazines and catalogs out when talking about these cars, really takes me back as an aging Gen X'er.

    • @Christoph-sd3zi
      @Christoph-sd3zi ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember going to the Chicago auto show as a kid and coming home with a plastic bag full of the auto manufacturer catalogs and advertising brochures.

  • @scrappy7571
    @scrappy7571 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Alternator paid like 5 hours to replace, and don't leave the air duct off it. They would last a week without the air duct.

    • @adamtrombino106
      @adamtrombino106 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good god I recall doing many of those. We had a crap off brand reman company that supplied us with alts. All of the techs refused to use them because of the lack of quality. Come backs were common. I'll never forget the day when the service writer sold 1 of them, a Sluter, to a Z34 owner and the tech said, he would pay for the new GM alt if the customer pays the labor, or he's not doing the job!

  • @ourkid2000
    @ourkid2000 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I was a teenager when these engines came out and I was really fascinated by it. They were so unusually powerful for the day. Them and the SHO were well into the V8 numbers of the day.
    There seems to be a special amount of disgust from the mechanics though who had to work on them .....they hated em!!

    • @howabouthetruth2157
      @howabouthetruth2157 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Whoever decided to make all vehicles ( except trucks & some sports cars ) front wheel drive, needed to be strung up from a tree. Those were the darkest days in automotive history. Heavy front ends made them dangerous in turns & all that added weight sure wasn't helping the front end components either. Can't work on em.......without cussing & wanting to set em on fire. It was really bad for these cars. Law enforcement agencies even hated them.

    • @DanLebron-rv1mz
      @DanLebron-rv1mz ปีที่แล้ว

      The fact that you were excited about this...?

    • @dmandman9
      @dmandman9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This engine was a nightmare to work on. I replaced the head gaskets on one and promised myself never again! Even replacing the alternator was a nightmare.

    • @hadtocheathimtobeathim6549
      @hadtocheathimtobeathim6549 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dmandman9the alternator was buried real low on the engine and was constantly heat soaked. My parents Grand Prix with the 3.4 had its alternator replaced probably 5 times, all under warranty every time.

    • @dmandman9
      @dmandman9 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@hadtocheathimtobeathim6549 I remember that nightmare as well. I remember replacing an alternator only to have it fail within weeks and had to replace it again under warranty . The parts company gave me another part. But I had to do the repair again for free. They buried the alternator right next to the exhaust manifold. Even with the heat shield, some of them wouldn’t last long. Also, during that era, GM alternators weren’t that good anyway. So when mounted near the exhaust they didn’t stand a chance . I’m glad that that engine wasn’t a great seller.

  • @CarCrazy12804
    @CarCrazy12804 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had the 1990 eurosport coupe version with the 3.1 v6 it had a good nascar like exaust sound and i loved it and by the way my eurosport had the same rear wing too from factory

  • @joejackson9172
    @joejackson9172 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My ex girlfriend had a 1996 Monte Carlo Z34 with the 3.4. That car actually ripped pretty good. Steve is correct too....I ran a 15.56 with it.

  • @mcnamarasgarage
    @mcnamarasgarage ปีที่แล้ว +30

    These were neat cars! My buddy had a '91 Euro 3.1, but the Z34 is next level. However, the Taurus SHO of the same era had the Yamaha engine and revved to 7200 rpm!

    • @kalebbrown93
      @kalebbrown93 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The SHO was marginally faster too. Despite being a 4 door.

    • @BuzzLOLOL
      @BuzzLOLOL ปีที่แล้ว +3

      5200 RPMs is actually '65 GTO/442 OHV 2 valve V8 numbers... not that high... earlier Chevy's revved much higher...

    • @TorquilMcLeod
      @TorquilMcLeod ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kalebbrown93 TL;DR SHO's were quicker.
      SHO's were quicker especially with the 5 speed, and were about as quick as a 5.0L Mustang LX/GT and even early 4.6L Mustang GT. My Dad had a 94 which I drove a number of times, and while I didn't have the opportunity (or stupidity?) to try this on the street, the butt dyno between the two cars was similar, with the Mustang having a more linear power band of torque that leveled off and the SHO building power through the RPMs. I also test drove 2 used first gens (89-91) and 2 second gens (92-95), having the opportunity to rev them out. I test drove a 91 Grand Prix GTP with the 3.4 DOHC 5 speed, same chassis as the Lumina, and it was not as fast with the torque feeling good but the power band not building like the SHO. That said, the car had a ton of tech with a HUD, a very intricate driver info/trip computer and compass, and rear bucket sets. What set the SHO apart was the smoothness and refinement of the engine, it had a variable intake manifold with a set of long narrow runners for low RPM, a set of short large runners for high RPM, that would switch over at about 4000 RPM, and when you reached that RPM you'd feel a surge in power.

    • @johnhill8046
      @johnhill8046 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There was a dodge turbo spirit that came out around this time too that was pretty exciting.

    • @shawnsatterlee6035
      @shawnsatterlee6035 ปีที่แล้ว

      And even funnier is furd didn't n couldn't build something on their own! Because furd! Lol

  • @googleusergp
    @googleusergp ปีที่แล้ว +6

    No, the Taurus came out for the 1986 (not 1985) model year. No, this is metric cluster and that's 180 kilometers, not MPH. No, those exhaust tips appear to have been replaced. They would likely have a more rectangular outlet style. Correct, this is a "W" body and replaced the Celebrity in the product line up. They were OK cars and were everywhere as rentals and fleet cars (and even some municipal and police cars) for a time.
    The 2.8L V6 debuted in 1980, not 1982 (although you are correct, it was used in a 1982 Camaro). In the early years, it had the Rochester "Disaster Jet" Varajet carburetor. Correct, the Lumina APV was the "U" body "Dustbuster" minivan which was a cousin to the other GM divisions that also produced a version of it.
    No VIN, can't win, but easy to figure out, no doubt: 2G1 for Canadian made Chevrolet, WP14 for Chevrolet Lumina Z34 coupe, X for 3.4L V6, then a random check digit, N for the 1992 model year, 9 for Oshawa, Ontario Canada assembly and the rest is the production sequence. The Oshawa plant complex operated from 1953 until 2019, closed for a time and then restarted in 2021. We know it's a Canadian made vehicle because of the blue "Maple Leaf" decal under the certification decal.
    No SPID, wish you did and no tag, can't brag, but this is code 41 (aka WA8555) Black exterior paint.

    • @tomwesley7884
      @tomwesley7884 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good catch on the speedo, Mr. Google. Didn't know anyone with one of these. The stock exhaust is a memorable sound from the '90's, sounded like "turbo" mufflers. I'd say a better looking car than the Taurus.

    • @googleusergp
      @googleusergp ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tomwesley7884 They were both good sellers, and they had their time to "shine".

    • @jiggity76
      @jiggity76 ปีที่แล้ว

      @googleusergp The Z34's did not get a rectangular style exhaust tip, they did indeed get oval ones from factory.

    • @googleusergp
      @googleusergp ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jiggity76 The original photos of a 1992 Z34 did not look like those.

    • @HowardJrFord
      @HowardJrFord ปีที่แล้ว

      Steve is a nice guy , but he gives out a lot of incorrect information . I hate when he does it with Mopars .

  • @toddbob55
    @toddbob55 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My uncle had one it was a GM flop that thing was always giving him trouble

  • @ILOVEBACONBOY2018
    @ILOVEBACONBOY2018 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Loved the style of those, same with the berretta's!

  • @BlownL67
    @BlownL67 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    The 3.4 DOHC was also available in the Lumina Euro 3.4 as well.

    • @googleusergp
      @googleusergp ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In 1992 however, I believe he's correct. The 3.4L was only used on the Lumina Z34 coupe, but yes, it was used in other models as well.

    • @BlownL67
      @BlownL67 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @googleusergp it was also uses on the Euro 3.4 coupe and sedan.

    • @googleusergp
      @googleusergp ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BlownL67 I know that. The 1992 OEM literature mentions the Z34 coupe being the only one with the 3.4L engine.

    • @Matt-nw2pt
      @Matt-nw2pt ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You could get it in the Monte Carlo also

    • @martinheredia6124
      @martinheredia6124 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I had a 3.4 euro, really nice car and quick. Rare EURO

  • @BoB-yb3wx
    @BoB-yb3wx ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looks like your channel is starting to gain some steam Steve! I notice your subscriber count has really been jumping lately! Won't be long until you hit 100,000!

  • @Christoph-sd3zi
    @Christoph-sd3zi ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always thought the styling on these was very nice.

  • @merr6267
    @merr6267 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My friend had this engine in a 1994 Cutlass Supreme that we grew fond of. He got it for a pittance due to the oil pump drive (former distributor) leaking. We did a belt and suspenders treatment with a new o-ring and gasket. He wrecked that car, then bought a '96 that we swapped the 3.4 into. That engine was pretty hot for a an 18 year old kid in the rust belt in the early 2000s.
    Of course, there were all the drawbacks of it being an early OBDII and being adapted from the 2.8/3.1 platform, but there was something endearing about it.
    I find it pretty amazing that the average minivan has 50% more horsepower these days.

  • @jayeberle5782
    @jayeberle5782 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thanks Steve for covering that DOHC car, I've had a 96GTP with that engine(in it's final year) and I absolutely love it. They are great cars and it's sad to see one in the junkyard. Keep the videos coming!

  • @danielleclare2938
    @danielleclare2938 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Had a 90 2 door with the 3.1 engine. Plenty of punch for me it drove very well and no issues with power. Huge improvement over the 2.8. I am not a front drive fan in any way but that car was a good driver.

    • @shawnsatterlee6035
      @shawnsatterlee6035 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol... The head gasket/ head bolt blowing 3.1 was great huh? 😂

    • @danielleclare2938
      @danielleclare2938 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shawnsatterlee6035 You would know all about blowing bolts so whatever...

  • @jakebob5101
    @jakebob5101 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Actually that 3.4 was available in 4 door sedans with the Eurosport package. My brother had one and I believe it was a '94. I sure did scoot for being a slushbox.

    • @jiggity76
      @jiggity76 ปีที่แล้ว

      @jakebob5101 So proud of you! Yes, it was called the Lumina Euro 3.4. Many people had no idea they existed.

  • @GoTakeADrive
    @GoTakeADrive ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Always had a soft spot for these, the exhaust had a great sound (especially for a V6) good looking car

    • @tomwesley7884
      @tomwesley7884 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That exhaust was the sound of the '90's, whatever mufflers GM was using

    • @05milmachine90
      @05milmachine90 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Agreed, I will never forget the tone of the GM v6s of that era

  • @MichaelandCathy1999
    @MichaelandCathy1999 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Those rims look good enough to grab and clean up/paint/powder paint.

  • @hackfabrication139
    @hackfabrication139 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I bought a brand new 2002 Z24 Cavalier back in the fall of 2001. 5spd. Loved that little car. I could get 32mpg out on the highway at posted speeds. High 20's around town. Never had any major issues with the mechanicals, although it did go through a couple blower motor resistors for some reason. Traded it in for a new 2007 Malibu SS, which was a very fun car to drive.

    • @markdodd1152
      @markdodd1152 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Both are very cool cars. It be nice to find a survivor of one now

    • @TheHelado36
      @TheHelado36 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I own a Z24 and is a super fun car to have !

  • @markdodd1152
    @markdodd1152 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very cool car , it would be nice to find a survivor of one now . Is that a big old Rust Brown Mercury to the right of it ?

  • @lab1042
    @lab1042 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I test drove a used red Z34 back in the mid-90's with the 5-spd manual. Don't recall why I didn't buy it. I don't think I've seen a manual one of these since then.

  • @tanhelmet
    @tanhelmet ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember renting one of these , drove from San Diego to San Antonio. Superb driving emotion. I should've bought one, but the I was in love with the White Pontiac Grand Prix. The dealership in El Paso had ran out and decided for a used Mustang LX convertible.

  • @JohnnyAFG81
    @JohnnyAFG81 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My friend had one with a 5 Speed! It was able to keep up with the pony cars

  • @TheCarCrazyGuy
    @TheCarCrazyGuy ปีที่แล้ว +3

    3:54 2000 ft lbs, this car could pull triples!

    • @jeffreycarleton1535
      @jeffreycarleton1535 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeahhhhhhh, three trailers full of wonder bread!!! Better wear a neck brace! 2000 ft lbs? Whoaaa dude!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
      Bounding across the New York thruway!
      Hauling wonder bread in my Z-34! 😂

  • @robertkestner1713
    @robertkestner1713 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I was a dealer tech back in the 90s and did a fair amount of work on these engines ,they were bad leaders and had many timing belt issues due to plastic pulleys that would melt,fortunately it was not a interference motor and did not bend valves when timing was lost.

    • @christopherfrier6689
      @christopherfrier6689 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      and those alternators.....

    • @theovallas
      @theovallas ปีที่แล้ว

      @@christopherfrier6689 What was the deal with the alternators?! I had a ‘96 Monte Carlo Z34 in college and had to have the alternator changed every year…at about $350/pop back then! It broke me and I eventually sold it.

    • @christopherfrier6689
      @christopherfrier6689 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theovallas Had to take the subframe loose or out to do them. hey were tucked way in..

  • @williamcavanaugh1415
    @williamcavanaugh1415 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    15.5 seconds in the 1/4 mile actually isn't half bad at that point in time...

    • @joshuagibson2520
      @joshuagibson2520 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Camaro and the like were close to the same.

    • @BuzzLOLOL
      @BuzzLOLOL ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joshuagibson2520 - Camaro/Firebird/Corvette in 14's... pushing 13's...

  • @coyote50585
    @coyote50585 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The old 2.8 and 3.1 Multi port had a real distinct sound. I remember having a corsica LTZ and it sounded really impressive for a stock V6 exhaust. You knew a Multi port when they took off. The Z24 Cavalier with the 3.1 5-speed are actually becoming a colectable who would think

    • @shawnsatterlee6035
      @shawnsatterlee6035 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The 2.8 is the king of 60° V6. Everything after is garbage! Especially the 3.1!

    • @atom7k856
      @atom7k856 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My first car was a 2.8 cavalier with a 5 speed with an exhaust, to this day the coolest sounding car Ive ever heard

    • @303nitzubishi4
      @303nitzubishi4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're referring to the 2nd gen "splayed valve" 2.8/3.1 from 87/88 and totally phased out by 95 depending on the carline. These are the ones with the very distinct exhaust note. The entire top end on those was completely different from the 1st gen from '80-86 ('94 For F bodies) and completely different from it's successor the 3100/3400 series. I had a '90 Celebrity wagon with the 2g 3.1 and even with the large muffler on a conservative car you could still get a good clap out of the tailpipe under hard throttle, although nothing close to what folks got from their J and W cars with the same engine

    • @darrellgordon7456
      @darrellgordon7456 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had a 2.8mpi in an 85 Pontiac 6000SE, man that sound was awesome indeed, Fun car too

    • @christopherfrier6689
      @christopherfrier6689 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pretty sure that they were faster than the Corvettes of the same years.. GM tripped over their dongs on that one.

  • @bjr2379
    @bjr2379 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Uncle Tony ran a 10 second quarter mile in a stock Z34.

  • @garyw4211
    @garyw4211 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My buddy had a Lumina Euro 3.4 Sedan. Yes, they existed. You didnt need to get a Z34 to get that engine. Nice snake by the way! PS: Those are Aussie ROH ZS wheels. Those alone are worth saving... 👌

    • @jiggity76
      @jiggity76 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @garywhitby4211 Incredibly rare car! Many people didn't even know they existed.

  • @jeffreycarleton1535
    @jeffreycarleton1535 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Canadian car, huh?
    So when you rev it up,
    It goes, AAAAAAAAAAAAA
    AAAAAAAAAAAAA?🇨🇦
    Just kidding guys, lighten up!
    What a beauty way to go!😂
    Take off to the great white north, take off,
    It’s a beauty way to go!🇺🇸🇨🇦

  • @andrewplantagenet5811
    @andrewplantagenet5811 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had a grey 1993 Lumina Z-34. I loved it.

    • @jiggity76
      @jiggity76 ปีที่แล้ว

      @andrewplantagenet5811 Gunmetal Gray Metallic is a rare color for these!

  • @rondpert5167
    @rondpert5167 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You had to remove the RS half shaft to replace the alternator.

  • @Hard_Right
    @Hard_Right ปีที่แล้ว +2

    got my license in a lumina 4dr back in 1996 ... one of my neighbors moms had a 2dr z34 lumina and we all thought it was hot shit , she had a olds cutlass calais with the quad 4 before that and if we'd been smart we would've been drooling over that more

  • @CharlesShane-b2v
    @CharlesShane-b2v 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is my first time ever seeing this fellow . I like him , he is like me just like cars that are pretty damn cool .

  • @Rush-gu3ij
    @Rush-gu3ij ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cool engine, I believe it was also available in the Grand Prix GTP at the time.

    • @jiggity76
      @jiggity76 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Rushh-gu3ij That is correct, from 91-96.

    • @BruceLee-xn3nn
      @BruceLee-xn3nn ปีที่แล้ว

      My ex had a red one. Beautiful car but motor went out and car got crushed. Lumina's, GP gtp, Berettas are almost non existent now.

  • @gentjim5007
    @gentjim5007 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My mom bought a new red one in 1991. What a great car! Would absolutely melt the front tires, which were big sticky goodyear eagles, Bose stereo system which rocked, and really handled great for a front drive car of the time. And yes, would do 120 + on the highway and great aero as it was a copy of the thunderbird aerocoupe. I wish i had that car now!

    • @shawnsatterlee6035
      @shawnsatterlee6035 ปีที่แล้ว

      No it didn't! They shut down at 115. Same as my 89 Z24 cavalier which my sister swore did 125+ in it but didn't! Vehicles were definitely governored back then.

    • @johnjones393
      @johnjones393 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can confirm the governor. My 92 Z34 hit the 115 limiter in a run against a Supercoupe.

    • @ErrorlVlacro
      @ErrorlVlacro 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have a 91 in red. Doing what I can to keep it alive. My daily. And yes I’ve tested it. It won’t let it go past 115, but it doesn’t shut off like the gov in my 95 S10 it just won’t let it go any more.

  • @vet-7174
    @vet-7174 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good Morning Gents ! 🇺🇸

  • @paulmandeville
    @paulmandeville ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had two of those, including a 5 speed. Really screamed. Alternator replacement was a major chore, mounted down below with ducted cooling. Never liked the rubber timing belt.

  • @ddellwo
    @ddellwo ปีที่แล้ว +3

    OMG - the mechanics down at the Chevrolet dealership must have HATED working on these things! That V6 looks like it had to be shoe-horned into that engine bay! Flipping through that brochure makes one a bit melancholy thinking about a time when American automakers were actually in the car business…….😕

    • @tomwesley7884
      @tomwesley7884 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No kidding, a guy could actually go and buy a coupe

    • @tomm1109
      @tomm1109 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not with that lineup! They all look horrible. Car like these explain why people got excited about the PT Cruiser. Because this is what we had before!

    • @ddellwo
      @ddellwo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tomm1109 - And now you can’t give a PT Cruiser away!

  • @peterantonopoulos2572
    @peterantonopoulos2572 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Morning Steve... owned one, not a bad car.

    • @matthewq4b
      @matthewq4b ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ya they were crap. pretty much disposable cars.

  • @christopherlaflam6383
    @christopherlaflam6383 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had a 91. What a cool and unique car. So roomy! Loved it. No issues. Man was that engine a screamer! Sold it at 14 years old when it got a engine tick. Plus I fell in love with a Bonneville SSEI...

  • @dubiousf00d
    @dubiousf00d ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When i was in college, a friend had a 5 speed model. I had a Taurus SHO. So much fun racing that car. SHO had longer legs and would make good use of them. But that 1st half was a nail biter sometimes

  • @Perry3377
    @Perry3377 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Steve don't forget to mention the guy who assembled the 3.4 liter V6... His name was Fred and he only worked on Tuesday and Friday hence the low production numbers. He did smoke cigars during assembly and sometimes even a leftover stogie will be in the valley.... Just sayn'! Dig the channel man!

  • @gordonwallin2368
    @gordonwallin2368 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just love you guys saying "zee"-it sounds so funny. (My "Zed"-28, with headers, true dual pipes, and a M-21 four speed was a sweet ride. My two daighters loved it when the Secondaries and Cold-Air intake flap opened, and they were pined against the back of the back seat.) Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.

  • @rustbeltrobclassic2512
    @rustbeltrobclassic2512 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pretty sure in 92 a 5.0 mustang only made 225hp so 210 in a v6 was incredible at that time.. a regular 3.8 taurus made 140hp at that time..

  • @DiscGolfDom23
    @DiscGolfDom23 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Should have discussed the W-Body platform development! GM invested $7 BILLION into this chassis and lost several thousand dollars on every car they sold. This was a significant part of GM's slow downward spiral to their bailout in 2008.
    That engine also screams up to a 7000 RPM redline! It's meant to rev and BOOGIE!

  • @mejormatame3947
    @mejormatame3947 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    the z34 sounds pretty nice goin down the road

  • @tonenuff
    @tonenuff ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was a GM tech in the 90s and worked on Lumina’s (and Corsica’s) regularly, and they were shit boxes; the car was over engineered & under built. Nothing on these cars “worked together” in that they just crammed different ideas & tech into, but none of it worked together for a an overall good driving experience. Yes, these motors had some power, but it didn’t come in until high rpm and had so much torque steer you couldn’t use it when it did. They didn’t ride well, the transverse carbon fiber mono leaf spring did not add to ride quality or handle well. The build quality was suspect and the worst part is these weren’t cheap! The Lumina was their flagship midsize car at the time, and they charged for it. Once you added the bells & whistles, you came close to Camaro pricing, which was a much better bang for the buck (4th gen Camaros Z28s were stout.) Of all the cars I worked on while at GM, I can say my memories of the Lumina’s are some of the worst.
    On a positive note, I love that you keep this history alive, Steve. Your extensive knowledge of the industry is unbelievably important, and thank you for sharing it regularly with the world.

  • @markniblett4857
    @markniblett4857 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You are one of the most mind numbingly interesting folks I know. Get better soon (not giving you chioce) Very special people like you are rare. Barrett Jackson did a great job bringing you on board.

  • @hofthomecrap9534
    @hofthomecrap9534 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At ~03:55 Steve says “…2000 foot-pounds…”: NO!
    “200 foot-pounds”? Sure!
    But NOT 2000!

  • @mcintyretyler89
    @mcintyretyler89 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A good platform for the 3800 enthusiasts. 5 speed trans, guys put in fwd grand prixs, monte carlos, impalas. And some guys swap the supercharged 3.8 buick in them z34s

  • @paulhardman2515
    @paulhardman2515 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a 1991 Ford Taurus SHO. My girlfriend's uncle (in head to toe Dale Earnhardt garb) had one of these and was always talking shit about wanting to kick my ass in a drag race. So we, and a car load of my girlfriends family, went to a long, straight, country road with no traffic and I beat him by more than two car lengths, 4 times in a row. He was so pissed! Then he said he could beat me top end and I pulled away from him and beat him my 3 car length up to 120. He didn't much like me after that. Granted, I don't think he took very good care of his car and I was and still am fastidious when it come to maintenance and upkeep.

  • @jasonstarnes3838
    @jasonstarnes3838 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My best friends wife has a 1992 z34 she bought brand new. And she has a 2000 monte carlo she has had a long time.

  • @Businessecomm.Ai1
    @Businessecomm.Ai1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Car probably faster than the foxbody gt and the 305 camaros back then with 210hp in the car definitely a sleeper I wonder how much power it will have if it had a small turbo on it.

  • @borismcfinnigan3430
    @borismcfinnigan3430 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love Luminas, but my kind of Lumina has Goodyear Eagles and a 358......

  • @nicksautorepair6936
    @nicksautorepair6936 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The dreaded 3.4 X engine. Timing belt eater. Very costly car to keep running. These engines kept me busy as a GM tech in the 90’s. GM began to ignore this engine ASAP once their legal obligations as far as warranty and parts support were met.

  • @ronaldlebowitz7409
    @ronaldlebowitz7409 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    very illuminating steve!

  • @MegaMrspain
    @MegaMrspain ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have heard but cannot find any solid proof that these motors were derated for the transmissions applicable to the cars at the time and up to about 275hp was possible. The 1996-1997 motors also had redesigned heads and were interference engines and post ODB2 had additional different sensors etc. The 4t65e was also available for one year in 1997.

  • @leonnygren9394
    @leonnygren9394 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pontiac in the mid 90' also had the 3.4 DOHC available in the Grand Prix GTP.

  • @cm-ek4ci
    @cm-ek4ci ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Will a z34 ever be a collected car?

  • @markv78
    @markv78 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The z34 and its cousins the cutlass.and grandprix were good lookin cars especially the wide body treatment on the grandprix gxp hot car in white or black

  • @billmanzke758
    @billmanzke758 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That is a KPH speedometer!

  • @66balsam
    @66balsam ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We had a 93 Cutlass convertible with the 2.8 which was a fine engine, also had the transverse leaf spring that developed a terrible squeak at each side where it sat in its pocket- used to spray white grease in there liberally to quiet it.

    • @jiggity76
      @jiggity76 ปีที่แล้ว

      @66balsam Wrong info there, a 93 vert would have had either the 3.1 or LQ1. Last year for the 2.8 in the W body's was 1989.

    • @66balsam
      @66balsam ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jiggity76 sorry yes, our 89 Cutlas had the 2.8, 93 had the 3.1, thanks

  • @rupe53
    @rupe53 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Interesting that these things had a rev limiter that kept you to about 4k RPM while jazzing the gas in neutral.

    • @calvinnickel9995
      @calvinnickel9995 ปีที่แล้ว

      This was all GM cars after 1987 and electronic ignition.

    • @rupe53
      @rupe53 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@calvinnickel9995 ... as I recall, there weren't too many worth jazzing the throttle in those days. The flip side is it would go a bunch higher than 4k in gear.

    • @anareel4562
      @anareel4562 ปีที่แล้ว

      My auto SHO also had a 4k limiter in neutral, the 5 speed didn't

    • @chiefjuice1
      @chiefjuice1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My 95 monte carlo z34 had the 4k rev limiter in park, but in neutral you could rev it to 7000 rpm freely. Stock engine with a short ram intake and it sounded great!

    • @rupe53
      @rupe53 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chiefjuice1 I have to guess that was the same engine in both the Chevy Lumina Eurosport and the Monte Carlo. They ran rather well. In hindsight, I probably never tried to rev it in neutral because if I was working under the hood, it was in park. I did need to replace the timing belt. What a royal pain that was!

  • @jamielee8991
    @jamielee8991 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The alternator is a pain to replace as well as it’s located under the engine. Also the lumina was more of a replacement for the Monte Carlo. The 3.4l DOHC was also found in the olds cutlass and Pontiac gran prix in the highest coupe trim packages

  • @danowens7145
    @danowens7145 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ummm. The speedometer was in kilometers and the smaller font was mph. And torque was 200 not 2000. Need to get the editor on the ball.😊

  • @72Z15SS
    @72Z15SS ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My X Wife owned one of these (White with red velour) when we were dating and the Car was always in the shop. It was a very nice car, but it was draining her bank account! To be fair, it could have been the shop that she took it to which was Not an authorized Chevy Dealer...

  • @tonywestvirginia
    @tonywestvirginia ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh the oil pump driveshaft seal leaking! (Where the distributor used to be) You had to pull the head to replace a 25 cents seal !!!!!!!

    • @scrappy7571
      @scrappy7571 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, or flat rate fix it. Cut a distributor gasket for a small block and sneak it in. Worked every time.

  • @user-if8nz2yo5n
    @user-if8nz2yo5n ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The things you learn at a ripe old age when it's too late to take advantage of such a prize in its prime. I was tickled to find out you were a friend of Uncle Tony's. I'm an old diy Mopar guy and took advantage of a few of the inexpensive available A, B body Dodges in my youth. Whole cars as well as an abundance of parts cars. So when I discovered Tony's channel it was a time machine for me because I loved wrenching on them because they were so simple and cheap to maintain and upgrade with original parts. I discovered you on Barrett Jackson and loved your reviews of the vehicles on the block. And to discover you collaborating with Tony confirmed his authenticity not knowing anything about him prior to discovering his channel. Thank you for sharing your passion for the auto industry.

  • @josephdipalma5989
    @josephdipalma5989 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These were actually very good-looking in their day. They looked especially good in red. NHRA pro-stock used this body style when they were new. There were quite a few pro-street conversions back in the day, and they looked great with the big tires.

  • @JamesSimon-jm9cn
    @JamesSimon-jm9cn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always liked those... Great vid!

  • @drdean9913
    @drdean9913 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Get well, Steve.

  • @marioncobaretti2280
    @marioncobaretti2280 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gm book time to replace a timing belt is 8 hrs on the 3.4

    • @scrappy7571
      @scrappy7571 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      After it shredded itself and wrapped around the pulleys, and left the owner stranded

    • @jeffreycarleton1535
      @jeffreycarleton1535 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh! It needs a water pump? Ok , let me go get ,Tony,a box a matches, and a can of gas! Yeah just leave it on the back of the lot!
      I’ll pick it up in the morning! 😂

    • @marioncobaretti2280
      @marioncobaretti2280 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Look on the brightside , its a non interference motor. The valves won't hit

    • @scrappy7571
      @scrappy7571 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marioncobaretti2280 Had several where the fake camshaft that drives the oil pump, would break. Then the timing belt shreds. Tear down and the cam bearings in the block had spun. What a mess.

    • @jiggity76
      @jiggity76 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marioncobaretti2280 Depends on what year of LQ1 that will determine interference to non-interference.

  • @DeadInsideButStillSmiling
    @DeadInsideButStillSmiling ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had to help swap out the passenger side door on one of those years back. Never would do that again. Took 2 of us to hold the door up while a buddy started the bolts. Good cars otherwise but a pain in the ass to work on. Them and the Beretta's.

  • @blitzedburgh090
    @blitzedburgh090 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My neighbor had one of these maroon on red cloth interior. 5speed. I thought that was the coolest thing ever. My other neighbor up the street had a baby blue beretta z26 around the same time. I was a kid then, I attest that era as to why I’m a gear head today. Great vid as always Steve!

    • @jiggity76
      @jiggity76 ปีที่แล้ว

      @blitzedburgh090 No Z34 left GM with a maroon exterior. It had to have been repainted at some point.

  • @superbird24
    @superbird24 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your knowledge of Z34 Lumina is very impressive! 👍

  • @jonstapleton76
    @jonstapleton76 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I was younger we had a 93 or 94 Lumina eurosport 3.4 with that engine, it was a 4 door.

  • @tomlewis3658
    @tomlewis3658 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Too bad this one has lived out its life. I'll bet a clean example of this model would be interesting at a car show.

  • @gnws6
    @gnws6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At one point in Chevy history, you could buy a Cavalier Z24, Beretta Z26, Camaro Z28, Lumina Z34, Corvette ZR1, and a Silverado Z71. Also, S10 ZR2 and Blazer ZR2 -- all at the same time.

  • @lilmike2710
    @lilmike2710 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Built for bottom end highway performance apparently.

  • @sreginkc
    @sreginkc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As America came out of the malaise era of unimpressive cars! Thank you Steve.

  • @joshuadeanb
    @joshuadeanb ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s got 6 more Zs than a Camaro.

  • @dameon2170
    @dameon2170 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Had one with a 5 speed in it

  • @Xicor37
    @Xicor37 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This engine was in the 1990 Fiero prototype. We missed out on an awesome car there.

  • @SuperOperator4
    @SuperOperator4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Because no Montes at that time.

    • @jiggity76
      @jiggity76 ปีที่แล้ว

      @SuperOperator4 The Monte Carlo Z34 debuted again in 1995. This same motor was used from 95-97 in both the Monte and Lumina LS sedan.

    • @SuperOperator4
      @SuperOperator4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @jiggity76 produced from 95-07. I had 3 with the 3.1. Great motor. Currently have a 06 SS. 5.3 ls4. Had this one for 8 years, love this car.

    • @jiggity76
      @jiggity76 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SuperOperator4 True, I was just referring to the LQ1 years though.

  • @05milmachine90
    @05milmachine90 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That steering wheel is a direct bolt on to an 80's C10 steering column. I ran one for years.

  • @mikep.5517
    @mikep.5517 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Early Z24s (Cavaliers) came with 2.8 and 3.1 V6s. Shame GM didn't shoehorn this engine into that chassis to continue that tradition.

    • @tomwesley7884
      @tomwesley7884 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Quad 4 was plenty for the smaller Cavalier. 2.8's and 3.1's weren't that great

  • @Slowgroovin
    @Slowgroovin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The 3.8 supercharged would've been great in these.

  • @johnnyburchett7251
    @johnnyburchett7251 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had a 92 Z-34 in the mid 90s. Fun car but can’t imagine the 5 speed manual. The automatic could barley keep up with the quick acceleration in the first two gears. After about 100,000 miles, I couldn’t keep oil in it. It was going to require a complete head removal and valve job because of a $2 rubber seal that was leaking.

  • @sprint6855
    @sprint6855 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    As a Chevy dealer tech in the 90's, I can attest to the DOHC being an absolute pain to change the belt. Good thing was, it is non-interference. Bad thing is, no cam timing marks, so belt changes required pulling the plenum and valve covers to install timing tools.

    • @LongIslandMopars
      @LongIslandMopars ปีที่แล้ว +15

      My God. With all the work that went into those heads, you think they would have had the brains to put timing marks on the cam gears....

    • @mikepodorski4272
      @mikepodorski4272 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      How about the oil pump drive (remnant of the distributor) seal that would leak, which would require pulling the head, lol. Not a big deal on the OHV motors. We used to give the customer the option of popping it up and putting RTV on it to buy some time.

    • @LongIslandMopars
      @LongIslandMopars ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@mikepodorski4272 And to this day you hear stories of nightmarish issues with the 3.6 (spiritual successor to the earlier GM V6s?). We've got a Honda 3.5 V6 in an 2013 Acura RDX with approximately 167k miles. Had the timing belt changed once by the dealer and it will soon be due for a second. I had them change the plugs at 120k miles just to be safe and because I didn't want to do the contortionist routine for the rearward cylinder bank. Knock on wood, the engine never gave us an issue; doesn't leak or burn a drop of oil. There is something to be said for the Honda V6.

    • @googleusergp
      @googleusergp ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Total piece of junk and should have never been built.

    • @davidgalinat4257
      @davidgalinat4257 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@LongIslandMopars Honda has made that V6 forever. I think its roots date back to the late 80s when it was 2.7 liters. I've had three Odysseys with the 3.5, it is bulletproof (unlike their auto transmissions).

  • @ShortHandedNow
    @ShortHandedNow ปีที่แล้ว +1

    04:42 That snake noped the heck out when you popped that hood. (Top center of the frame on the passenger strut tower)