ho s You're right. Standards have dropped ever since "The Great Chinese Takeaway" of 1997. It is a shame to see how Hong Kong seems to have lost its identity.
But I think the problem of their drill is beyond that. You see their drill's togetherness and bluntness which you'd expect from a typical HK government uniformed force, but somehow they lack that gracefulness, sharpness, assertive cadence and rthymatic swing in their march as you'd see in the Foot Guards and the Queen's Colour Sqn RAF Regt. It's also odd the way they wear they chin straps beneath their chins instead of being at the tip of the chin as it's supposed to be.
Hong Kong have their own history and tradition... I feel great that Hong Kong use British-styled drill, same as PLA use Soviet drill, taiwan use American drill, what's the problem?
However, it is completely undeniable that, PLA drill have been developed base on Russian drill protocol.... Taiwan is never conquered by the USA. Due to the American-friendly history, they developed their drill style based on American drill. Hong Kong follow British drill, Macau follow Portuguese drill, Taiwan follow American-style-like drill, Mainland China follow Russian-style-like drill. Learn from adopt different culture with respect, That is the greatest point of Chinese Culture.
British or PLA drill aside, I wish they hadn't call out that "two-three" timing so loud in a public performance like this as if they were still a bunch of recruits learning drill. They are professionals and they should have done without that. I'm also not so sure about those white ceremonial gloves with short sleeve order uniform. Looks odd. Some contingents have gloves some don't as if they have no coordination among the departments.
Yeah I agree... what's the problem? The British drill is respected and renowned around the world. After all it's one of the oldest and original drills that helped dozens of other countries to either adopt or develop their own styles. From my point of view, the British drill is what a contemporary force should look like.
Hong Kong uniformed forces drill is a combination of old British Army and modern PLA drill movements (flag raising and lowering). They aren't pure British Army drill just like PLA drill isn't pure Soviet drill. To Hong Kong these drill movements are as much a tradition as English co-exist with Chinese as official languages in the city. There are no practical reasons why HK should adopt PLA drill apart from political ass-kissing, which is stupid and unnecessary.
Why though? Madam, I don't know if you actually know it or not, but the anthem wasn't composed by the CCP itself on the 01/10/1949, which was the day the CCP won the Chinese Civil War, it was composed by two nobodies during the WWII. According to what I learned at school two years ago, the anthem was composed at the time during the Japanese invasion of Manchuria, the time when the Japanese started their invasion towards China, and the time when the Second Sino-Japanese War begun. And the two Chinese made this in prison, and at first, it was a theme song of the movie 「兒女風雲」，telling the Chinese not to give up and stand against the Japanese military back then. When the background story of the anthem is like that, even a politically neutral person like me, got to say, no matter what your political views are, no matter how you hate the PRC under the rule of CCP, whether you are patriotic or not, you still got to respect the anthem. After all, it's not a song that brainwashes people about how 'almighty' the CCP is, it was a mark of the history. Not only that, the anthem also has something within it. The anthem, stores the souls of the brave who fought bravely during 1931-1945.
I think the problem with the two-three louding timing is because they lack a drill-dedicated school that is up to standards of that of the the british army. They need to count in order to maintain accurately their often-rare display of drills this large capacity.
That might be the case, but still not an excuse in my opinion because they are professionals, this is only a 3-part movement as well as the fact that this is such a publicized performance. I'm also under the impression that these aren't just the average street cops but cadets in training, their instructors and people who perform public duties everyday. So it wasn't like they haven't touched the parade ground for ages. You can't just pull cops off the street and do choreography like this.
Uh... no way. PLA drill=Soviet drills. Unless you're a fan of PLA drills. The HK Police is deeply rooted in the British tradition and style so at least you've got to be realistic and about it. After all they were started by the British.
I don't think you should call people names. After all I didn't call you names. Don't think you can go around and insult people all you want. That makes you less human than you are.
You're too nationalistic and have too much pride in yourself I'm afraid. And how am I "brainwashed"? No one is brainwashed unless you yourself have been brainwashed to think that other people should be in line with your way of thinking. Be realistic my friend! :) The Hong Kong Police is respected throughout the world and we should be proud of what they are and what they have done and are continuing to do. And please admit that the PLA drill is at least based off the Soviet drill. That's fact :)
Regardless of how you feel about the Handover, the marches played by the police band sucks, compared to days of yore. PLA/patriotic marches sound like shit. I can't help but to laugh at the idea of commanding the General Salute in English, followed by the Chinese national anthem. Would never happen in the Mainland. Only in HK!
The PLA does NOT use Russian drill, the PLA's drill is unique and unlike the Russian or North Koreans, I should know I teach military drill ! Only conquered nations use drill of it conquerors like India, Pakistan, Taiwan, Japan and the Philippines !
Bitch, it is the Prussian drill. Everything China has in its military learn from the west, include its guns. Remember China doesn’t have uniform , guns and drill. They used sword and bow and shit for over four thousand years . They start learning this shit but a hundred years ago.
回归这么多年了步操怎么还是英国式？让解放军教教他们怎么踢正步走齐步。 still using the british style drill after so many years return to china ? let the PLA teach them what is chinese army drill.
For the same token, the USSR has ceased to exist and Russia is no longer an advising nation to the PRC, so why is the PLA still using the old Soviet style army drill?
感動又开心 👩
the drill is pretty nasty, nothing close to the high standard back in the old days
ho s You're right. Standards have dropped ever since "The Great Chinese Takeaway" of 1997. It is a shame to see how Hong Kong seems to have lost its identity.
We need HD version
What is the music at 0:55
Jenny's Bawbee
非常型仔 好好睇
But I think the problem of their drill is beyond that. You see their drill's togetherness and bluntness which you'd expect from a typical HK government uniformed force, but somehow they lack that gracefulness, sharpness, assertive cadence and rthymatic swing in their march as you'd see in the Foot Guards and the Queen's Colour Sqn RAF Regt. It's also odd the way they wear they chin straps beneath their chins instead of being at the tip of the chin as it's supposed to be.
Hong Kong have their own history and tradition... I feel great that Hong Kong use British-styled drill, same as PLA use Soviet drill, taiwan use American drill, what's the problem?
However, it is completely undeniable that, PLA drill have been developed base on Russian drill protocol....
Taiwan is never conquered by the USA. Due to the American-friendly history, they developed their drill style based on American drill.
Hong Kong follow British drill, Macau follow Portuguese drill, Taiwan follow American-style-like drill, Mainland China follow Russian-style-like drill. Learn from adopt different culture with respect, That is the greatest point of Chinese Culture.
台湾用美式？你真幽默。见过“国军”的操步和美国佬的操步吗？就美国佬
British or PLA drill aside, I wish they hadn't call out that "two-three" timing so loud in a public performance like this as if they were still a bunch of recruits learning drill. They are professionals and they should have done without that. I'm also not so sure about those white ceremonial gloves with short sleeve order uniform. Looks odd. Some contingents have gloves some don't as if they have no coordination among the departments.
@michaelymt ＰＬＡ don't use Soviet Drill, they are using Russian and German drill mixed
Yeah I agree... what's the problem? The British drill is respected and renowned around the world. After all it's one of the oldest and original drills that helped dozens of other countries to either adopt or develop their own styles. From my point of view, the British drill is what a contemporary force should look like.
Hong Kong uniformed forces drill is a combination of old British Army and modern PLA drill movements (flag raising and lowering). They aren't pure British Army drill just like PLA drill isn't pure Soviet drill. To Hong Kong these drill movements are as much a tradition as English co-exist with Chinese as official languages in the city. There are no practical reasons why HK should adopt PLA drill apart from political ass-kissing, which is stupid and unnecessary.
不错，挺整齐的。就是幅度那么大，摆双臂和立定跺脚的动作看着挺有喜感的，稍显不够严肃。还有会操干嘛演这么久啊，整得像娱乐节目，还不如拿一般时间演练刺杀操练练威严的杀气！
你不懂步操
在分列式上雖然英式都好但本人比較喜歡鵝步
傷鞋，不符合人體立學
Fortunately, they still using British-styled drill. I love it so much. However, I don't like the Chinese music, especially the anthem.
Why though? Madam, I don't know if you actually know it or not, but the anthem wasn't composed by the CCP itself on the 01/10/1949, which was the day the CCP won the Chinese Civil War, it was composed by two nobodies during the WWII. According to what I learned at school two years ago, the anthem was composed at the time during the Japanese invasion of Manchuria, the time when the Japanese started their invasion towards China, and the time when the Second Sino-Japanese War begun. And the two Chinese made this in prison, and at first, it was a theme song of the movie 「兒女風雲」，telling the Chinese not to give up and stand against the Japanese military back then. When the background story of the anthem is like that, even a politically neutral person like me, got to say, no matter what your political views are, no matter how you hate the PRC under the rule of CCP, whether you are patriotic or not, you still got to respect the anthem. After all, it's not a song that brainwashes people about how 'almighty' the CCP is, it was a mark of the history. Not only that, the anthem also has something within it. The anthem, stores the souls of the brave who fought bravely during 1931-1945.
现在呢？不喜欢也憋着。哈哈！
I think the problem with the two-three louding timing is because they lack a drill-dedicated school that is up to standards of that of the the british army. They need to count in order to maintain accurately their often-rare display of drills this large capacity.
That might be the case, but still not an excuse in my opinion because they are professionals, this is only a 3-part movement as well as the fact that this is such a publicized performance. I'm also under the impression that these aren't just the average street cops but cadets in training, their instructors and people who perform public duties everyday. So it wasn't like they haven't touched the parade ground for ages. You can't just pull cops off the street and do choreography like this.
Uh... no way. PLA drill=Soviet drills. Unless you're a fan of PLA drills. The HK Police is deeply rooted in the British tradition and style so at least you've got to be realistic and about it. After all they were started by the British.
I don't think you should call people names. After all I didn't call you names. Don't think you can go around and insult people all you want. That makes you less human than you are.
You're too nationalistic and have too much pride in yourself I'm afraid. And how am I "brainwashed"? No one is brainwashed unless you yourself have been brainwashed to think that other people should be in line with your way of thinking. Be realistic my friend! :) The Hong Kong Police is respected throughout the world and we should be proud of what they are and what they have done and are continuing to do. And please admit that the PLA drill is at least based off the Soviet drill. That's fact :)
Regardless of how you feel about the Handover, the marches played by the police band sucks, compared to days of yore. PLA/patriotic marches sound like shit. I can't help but to laugh at the idea of commanding the General Salute in English, followed by the Chinese national anthem. Would never happen in the Mainland. Only in HK!
@muaythai1982 Accusing someone of bullshitting without elaborating why, now that's real bullshitting.
They should stopping using British drill and start adopting PLA drill !
The PLA does NOT use Russian drill, the PLA's drill is unique and unlike the Russian or North Koreans, I should know I teach military drill !
Only conquered nations use drill of it conquerors like India, Pakistan, Taiwan, Japan and the Philippines !
Bitch, it is the Prussian drill. Everything China has in its military learn from the west, include its guns. Remember China doesn’t have uniform , guns and drill. They used sword and bow and shit for over four thousand years . They start learning this shit but a hundred years ago.
EdT586 So don’t talk about China’s unique blah blah blah. It is not.
回归这么多年了步操怎么还是英国式？让解放军教教他们怎么踢正步走齐步。
still using the british style drill after so many years return to china ? let the PLA teach them what is chinese army drill.
Edward Lo 。。idiot. it's just for fun ,dont you understand ? anyway ,i like the pla drill more.
Edward Lo i'm a chinese and of cuz i stay in china. and you?
one country, two system
For the same token, the USSR has ceased to exist and Russia is no longer an advising nation to the PRC, so why is the PLA still using the old Soviet style army drill?
Damm you PLA