That speaks to the overall lack of empathy in society. During the early days of the pandemic, prople were not only against wearing a mask to try to hold back a virus, they were ripping masks off the faces of other people's children. More recently, a woman who was arrested for killing her child said she couldn't be bothered to feed it. People are barely thinking of their own, much less others.
I was an EMT for five years. I have seen my fair share of mass casualty incidents and have had to put myself in harm's way multiple times. I worked with 100s of other first responders in my time. NONE of them, be they fire, police, or EMS would have tolerated the gutless cowardice on display during this event. If there was a time to risk life and limb, it was HERE. Those were CHILDREN inside that school with that monster. Every one of those officers failed to do their duty not as a cop, but as an adult to keep our children safe. Worse still, they ACTIVELY BARRED parents from trying to save their kids. If you don't have the balls to do what needs to be done, at least step aside and let someone else do it. Horrific.
I was in the military for 9 1/2 years. If these officers performed this way in the military, they would be court marshaled for cowardice in the face of the enemy, and that commander in charged would be immediately relieved. They were 100% cowards, these are 8,9 and 10 year old's being murdered. What would you do if 8 year old's were being murdered. They were fucking cowards!
They claimed that were afraid of getting killed, uh there was more cops against one psycho and aren't cops trained to take down a criminal in these situations.. wtf
@@brenh2767 They were all wearing bullet proof vests for protection against onslaught of bullets, armed with high caliber fire-arms and running around like chickens with their heads cut-off. They are nothing but cowardly lions in addition to being chicken-hearted!
Exactly. I can’t even imagine a soldier or airman standing down in a situation like this. We’d be IN there. Jesus I’m so angry about this. How could they hear those shots and those childrens’ screams and just stand there behind the door? How could that on-site commander not change the order back to active shooter protocol immediately after the first 911 call from behind that door. Good lord. Also this is the first I’m hearing that the cops on the perimeter were pepper spraying parents!! Wtaf!
So true, I was in the Marines, infantry. I was also a teacher. That school had windows, they all do, and I saw the windows in the news video. It is standard procedure to take out a target from two different vantage points. Cops should have gone to the window and shot in some tear gas, then shot at gunmen or the ceiling to distract him and the other cops kick the down down and rush in. Why they didn't do that is beyond me.
The first officers on the scene were extremely quick in their initial response. They rushed down the hallway to the rooms with the gunman. Upon receiving gunfire they ran, fled , retreated and never re-engaged. They were paralyzed by the fear of being shot, so their own value superseded the value of those kids. That's the textbook definition of cowardice. Sounds harsh but it is what it is.
Yeah most of us see if for what it is , cowardice. This is exactly how gangs and bullies operate, torment the weak and vulnerable and run away when confronted by real forces.
@@sunisbest1234 The job of police is only to investigate crime, gather evidence and present the evidence to the district attorney. The district attorney then decides whether they have sufficient evidence to have a probability of conviction. Think of it. In my city there is only one police officer for every three hundred people. Assuming 1/3rd of those are on duty at any given time that's 1 per 900. If I'm facing some kind of threat they can't park a police vehicle in front of my house all night. And threats don't always come announced ahead of time, in fact they only very rarely do. Which gets us to the inconsistency of laws against owning and carrying guns. Ultimately, we are personally responsible for our own safety and defense yet there are laws against carrying guns.
Imagine being one of those parents who tried to go into the school and save their child but who was restrained by the police and then finding out that your child was killed...Living the rest of your life wondering if you could have saved your child from such a fearful death had you not been restrained.
Completely false and idiotic statement. Every distraction to the shooter is a moment of time where he is not focused on the children. Wake up dude. This information is readily available. The first thing procedure says to do in the event of an active shooter is CONFRONT. Look it up!
Before their police they are human and I'm sure they were scared themselves but they signed up for the job....now we see how useless police are when you need them and how they are johnny on the spot when it comes to harassing....
And that's why I say the police did something worse than just fail to protect. It can be argued that they ensured the kids in that classroom were sitting ducks by depriving them of ANY means of rescue
In so many of these mass shooting incidents, you hear about unarmed teachers, administrators, and school employees who put themselves in harm's way to protect the kids. Whether they distracted the shooter or used their own bodies to shield the kids from getting shot. For trained law enforcement who have the benefit of protective gear to stand there and do nothing is unconscionable.
Well to be fair, the commanding officer was the one who ordered to wait for tactical teams. So i don’t think a lot of these officers had a choice but it is very sad.
As an outraged Texan, I thank you for your REAL and truthful analysis of the ALL of the cowards in Uvalde. The police officers that stood in that hallway for over an hour looking as if they are having an impromptu FOP meeting chatting with each other are the cowards that day we must all be truly truly concerned with. Thank you for your candor.
I saw that tonight too. That is horrific. They not only hid, each time they heard a gunshot they ran, even when they had bullet-proof shields. It was a lie to say they waited him out because the shooting had stopped. There was a lot of shooting for a long time while they hid in the hallway. Many went outside.
Not only were the police cowards, they used FORCE against people that WEREN'T cowards to stop them from intervening in the murders that were taking place while they stood there doing NOTHING. These police AIDED and ABETTED this crime and IMO should be charged as such.
Why did they stop the parents from saving the lives of their children? Oh that's right, so that they public wouldn't know they let defenseless civilians do the job their known for, FOR THEM!
Idk man. You weren’t there. Kid had assault rifles and a bag of ammo. A town’s police force with 16,000 population may have like, a hunting rifle maybe. They aren’t equipped for that mass shooters because it doesn’t happen that much. Also, they weren’t just doing nothing, they were actively helping children and teachers escape. Another thing, the other sources I’ve looked at stated the shooting happened before anyone got there and that the shooter was cornered, preventing him from moving from class to class. Another thing. Letting unarmed civilians charge into a school shooting situation is a recipe for collateral damage. Yes your children are in danger but you are even less equipped to deal with these situation than that police force was, and charging in there recklessly would absolutely get more innocent people killed.
If the cops knew that children were calling 911 inside the classroom and they still didn’t act, they deserve to be prosecuted. The reason why myself and so many others are angry, is because anyone who is a parent would have risked their lives to save innocent elementary school children. Either the 911 operators should be prosecuted for not relaying the calls to the police, or the police should be prosecuted for failing to act.
Did you not hear that the police are not legally required to protect us? Therefore, they cannot be prosecuted for failing to protect us. Thank the Supreme Court for that ruling.
@@exrobowidow1617 great. Then there should be no restrictions whatsoever on private gun ownership. Fine. You won’t protect me and my family? Fair enough. Don’t stop me buying an M16 to do you lazy/cowardly scumbags’ job for you. We are seriously becoming PRC lite.
SCOTUS makes up “qualified immunity” in order to protect the government authority from lawsuits because law enforcement is serving the community and facing dangerous situations in order to protect the public. SCOTUS subsequently decided that the police officers have no duty to protect the public. It’s a crime to falsify government records. Government records are considered factual as they are written... as a matter of authority... and so they write reports not as things factually happened but rather as they want the charges to read and however it would make them look good. This behavior is fraudulent and criminal... Corruption begets corruption. No responsibility, No accountability, No transparency. It’s not the firearms that are problem.
Any children who show a tendency to hurt small animals MUST be intervened with and carefully monitored. That behavior is a dead giveaway of psychopathic and murderous brains. Parents have to understand that this is not just kids being kids-normal children by their nature feel affection towards animals. If they feel the need to hurt them it speaks of abnormal psychology.
I can't believe people still don't see this. Many serial killers start out torturing and killing animals. Everyone should know that by now. What kind of so-called human being can see animal abuse and think it's ok or be indifferent about it? Grow some empathy for animals already!
Not all dangerous murderers kill or hurt small animals as children (or become a murderer) but this seem to be one common thing among many of them. Any child or teen who enjoys hurting animals should be taken as a very serious warning of something horrible going on and appropriate action taken.
I’ve been in the military for 10 years, was a firefighter, and an EMT. I’m 62 years old and know myself pretty good. There is not one bit of doubt in my mind that if my grand babies were in that room, I would have used my body as a shield so the guys behind me could take him out. I’ve lived a good life. Those kids should have live theirs.
@@christiananderson4909 Alex Jones claimed it was all theatre at the time. What I'm saying is that False Flag Operation can always be a possibility when it comes to high profile shootings like these to push legislation.
@@christiananderson4909 think about it. Why would the Uvalde police correct their statements after being outted for in-action in a mass shooting that cost the lives of several children??? They barricade the shooter inside, with children screaming, and then claiming that the shooter was dead, even after still receiving 911 calls from children. 47 minutes was how much time Ramos had with the children he massacred. It's too foolish and naive to assume every mistake in-the-book, could be made and not become skeptical about it. Not only that, but they detained parents of the children that wanted to save kids. Almost as if they were following orders.....
My husband is a well respected and decorated recently retired police officer from a large first responder family. He's the most levelheaded and patient officer you'd ever meet. The kind of cop you pray shows up at your darkest moments. He watched the entire situation with silent rage building inside him and finally stated "If I'd been a parent arriving on scene and saw that cowardice unfolding, I'd shoot any officer attempting to restrain me from going into that building and neutralizing the subject. At that point, all bets are called off and someone needs to step up no matter who tries to prevent you. Some situations are not by the book, officers in charge are not always right and do go against their training and moral obligations when faced with a shocking situation. Those officers should be charged in this situation as they stood in the way of actual help."
Bravery is not fearlessness. One cannot be brave without fear. Bravery is being fearful and still doing what needs to be done, regardless of your training or ability. By this measure those 19 men are cowards
That’s courage you go speaking of. Bravery is more of chance taking and implies higher level recklessness. It’s courage that you want with times like this.
@Todd W. Bucy Absolutely correct. Anyone who says they're not afraid of anything is either a fool or a liar. Fear is a prerequisite for courage; without fear, there is no courage. But one must have the moral fortitude and faith to be able to master fear and use it as a motivator to do what must be done instead of allowing oneself to be paralyzed by it.
"They are trained to put their own safety above others....." Yet, a young mother- after handcuffs were removed, climbed a fence, got into the school and got her two sons without body armor, a weapon, or one thought for herself.... she should have been in charge.
@@elijazfrazelsassafraz3100 I seen it too if you wondering. You should be able to find it on TH-cam, it shows her from about the time she got to the school, handcuffed, no handcuffs, running in, coming out with her children. She’s given interviews too.
@@mamiemonrovia7654 not to be cute but I’m a boomer, I have no idea how to post you a link. I just searched it and put in “woman who went in for her children in Uvalde”, it came right up.
@Jarvis Richards it's Texas. Those parents were armed and ready to fight for their kids lives just like any of us would be. The police have to actually be doing something for them to start claiming you're interfering
Hey barie, the shooter was locked in a classroom from the inside. Without a key U don't open the door. A door that is all metal including the door frame, hinges, door handle & locking system plus the metal bolt catcher. If there were 50 officers in the hall, they could not open that door. No police department would ALLOW unarmed or armed MOM or DAD to run into an active shooting scene. First it is too DANGEROUS! Second U had to have a KEY!!!
@@mitchellfraser634 The door wasn't locked, they said that during the 4 hour press conference. Also the cops had a hallagian entry tool. That's what firefighters use to get past locked doors.
Imagine if this were a fire and the fire department showed up with time to save people but refused to act based on fear. It would be completely unacceptable.
That's the difference between firemen and cops. Firemen will go in as long as they know there are people inside who need to be rescued. From what I understand the cops violated basic active shooter training. Once there is an active shooter any cop could go in on his own he does not need a supervisor to tell him when to go in. The schools police chief who gave the order to stand down and not go in has been refusing to meet the media. Texas sounds like a corrupt state. It appears there is no agency to hold anyone accountable. Currently in the news a family of five was murdered by a prisoner escapee who was able to pull off a Harry Houdini and escape while in chains off a prisoner bus transporting him to a medical appointment to another city. There should have been a notice to residents in the area of an escaped prisoner and to be aware and lock their doors. There is so much incompetence in Texas beginning with the governor all the way down.
@@Verminator787 contrast these cops with two WWII veterans I saw in the news yesterday, June 6, on the beach of Normandy, France where they landed 78 years ago. They are around 97 years old. They both say they were in the second division landing. And that the men in the first division some of them died in the water when they were machine gunned by the Germans. They never set foot on the beach. The reporter called them heroes. They both said they were just doing their job, and that the heroes are those men lying in the cemeteries in France. Very different from those men who want to stay alive for their pensions after 20 years as police officers.
I just watched the police video and all I can say it’s embarrassing. There was 50 cowards in bulletproof vests, not one man had the heart to burst through the door and kill that psycho even if you take a bullet.
Fam they had 4 ballistic shields and body armor and helmets and a whole hour and a half passed before they went in. There is no excuse fire them all charge them all. They are no longer considered men to society
@@Moresco24fuck that bro. Grow up. They aren't "men", a "woman", a mother went in there to rescue her children without any weapons or body armor. Stop using sex as an excuse. They aren't HUMAN. That mother did more than any "man" did that day. Sex doesn't define courage.
You can also blame all of those teens who said nothing as this monster was spewing all the red flags. Maybe even their parents too, if they told them that this monster was abusing cats and killing them. And calling himself “school shooter”. Yet, they all stayed quiet. I bet they are reflecting on their mistakes now! Seems like a lot of people there have blood on their hands.
Basically, what we saw in Uvalde was a bunch of cops protecting a mass shooter while he murdered a bunch of little kids. They secured the building, ensuring that no one who wanted to stop him from shooting those kids was allowed to get in.
Wow if I ever heard words of truth these are them ! You said it , to prevent anyone from entering & stoping the shooter , I never looked at it as this but it's more then clear to me now ! They secured the building until his programed task was done ! Kudos to you for opening the eyes of us all !
As a 31 year law enforcement retiree, I am convinced to many of these cops were more concerned about their own safety, than that of these children. I remember seeing some of my partners hiding in a dark alleys, while I , along with other officers, rushed to a dangerous call. Unfortunately, cowardice, does exist in police departments. It is simply, a reality.
The thing that infuriates me is the number of officers present at scene.Almost 400 armed police, all parading around fronting in front of the news media. DISGRACEFUL.
As a nurse for over 20 years if I see a person go down when I am out in public without a crash cart, I do what I can to save the person. These cops were trained that you stop the threat no matter what. Every cop that didn't breach that door should turn in their badge and gun today.
Except when you help you don't have to put your life on the line. Not that I'm defending the cops but there is a big difference, its not easy mentally to sacrafice yourself for others.
I wander how you breech a school door that opens out while the shooter fires into it and you don't know where he is inside the room. What tool is used how you do it without going down in the process. It hasn't been addressed but seems difficult. Either way the keys to get in should have been there immediately if it wasn't
Catie: It can literally drive people crazy to harbor those images in ones mind. Haunting. Disturbing. Traumatizing. We have entered a phase of collective madness, I think. The best thing we can do right now is practice meticulous mental hygiene. Whatever and however that works best for each. Peace.
40% of the city's budget went to the police force. They have their own swat team. To treat parents the way they did while getting their own kids out and not engaging the shooter is so far beyond the pale. The level of cowardice is staggering.
I think the rpolice officers getting their own children out were off-duty police officers. This is from the New York Times: "Some of the parents implored the heavily armed police officers at the chaotic scene to storm the school. Others, including those who were off-duty members of law enforcement, went inside themselves to try to find their own children."
You explained everything so well. For me, I’m not upset they were scared. That’s basic human nature. But their fear drove them to inaction and for that I can’t forgive them.
"Took their time", "Handcuffed the parents", "Entered the school and retrieved their own children." Fire, charge and arrest them. A band of cowards masquerading behind a badge and a belt with neat gadgets.
Exactly. It'd be great to see those cowardly officers do a perp walk and to see their tearful pleas in the courtroom - all to no avail. Guilty. 10 years behind bars. Next case.
Exactly. That's why animal cruelty needs harsher charges... If someone is willing to hurt an animal, they are a danger to the community. They will hurt children, disabled, elderly, etc.
@@uekvowzkaebbzuvrgipqxhemmwbhe that’s messed up. You may not kill people, but I’m pretty sure you have limited empathy for other people. Correct me if I’m wrong.
@@uekvowzkaebbzuvrgipqxhemmwbhe you thought you were a big man hurting defenceless cats. One day you’ll do that to someone who will give you what you deserve
The cops failed to stop the shooter, but were very successful with folding up parents who were trying to get their kids. They're cowards. The whole force needs fired.
The two teachers were braver than the so called police officers. I dint care what the chief told me to not do. I would risk losing my job to save lives.
Aren't you eager to have them come take your guns away according to the will of the Democrats? I don't mean to make it political but the Dems already did that themselves. Are we seriously expected to put our lives in their hands after so many repeated failures to protect the people?
It hurts so much hearing that children were calling 911 begging for help while police were standing outside. I head a story that a mom that was handcuffed convinced the officer to let her free. She then snuck around, jumped a fence and was able to save some children from a window. Let's talk about that courage. 😭😭😭
@@Cathee.M. for trying to get the cops to go in as the people could hear shooting, but the cops wouldn't go in but wouldn't let the parents go in, so they they spent their time fighting with the parents rather than do their duty, So obviously the mom must have told them some home truths about their cowardice
The shooter couldn't have had it easier. ... entered the school in a door that had been recently propped open, then goes on a shooting rampage uninterrupted by law enforcement. Unbelievable.
There had been an Honors Assembly that morning, hence the door was still unlocked. The cops who retrieved their own children were selfish cowards; the rest just plain cowards. Cops used to be brave people who wanted to serve others. Nowadays most of them are arrogant control freaks who see the position as an opportunity for power. Their cowardice mixed with ineptitude (and selfishness for some) enabled this tragedy. The kids who were "saved" by their daddies while the other children were left behind now have to grow up knowing their fathers are cowards. These kids will now have to deal with survivors guilt and whatever relationship remains with their cowardly fathers. This is a type of survivors guilt that is new to school shootings: "I am alive because my daddy let other kids die".
They should be put behind bars. Their negligence and cowardice costed us the most valuable thing as human beings, meanwhile we are supposed to pay for their "work", their training, equipment, salaries and everything. Truly disgusting.
“Ashamed” is not a strong enough word. They should have not applied to be police in the first place. Whoever that leaded them (the chief) should be locked up. If he was unable to define how dangerous it was, possibly he should never be placed in such important positions It was disgusting how they handled it and how they tried to cover it . Gross
The officers that rescued there own children while leaving others in danger should face criminal charges of dereliction of duty. They shouldn't just loose their jobs. They should face criminal penalties because when you take on the role as guardian of your community you should consider all children as your own.
You can't. Unfortunately police officers are not obligated to defend a human life. People need to understand people that being a police officer is basically a job nobody wants to do anymore the training's low the pay is low and the respect is super low. What kind of people do people think that's going to draw in.
No offense but if you were in a life or dead situation where you can save either your OWN children or others most likely you would save yours. I agree that these cops were cowards but at that moment the father or mother comes out and you can’t care about anyone else safety
As most members of the military know, cowardice is contageous and often leads to poor decisions. The officers on scene who now know they are not suited for police work should resign. I have noticed a change in law enforcement over the last 30 to 40 years, and it's not a good change. Everyone wants to live a long a fruitful life, but when you sign up for risky dangerous work you need to be willing to engage when necessary. It seems that police these days are quick to fire on just about anyone for little justifiable reason but when confronted with a heavily armed maniac committing murders, some of them seem dumbfounded as to what to do. We have all seen examples of police bravery and compassion, but we've also witnessed gross misconduct. I'm not sure what the solution is. I doubt if it will get any better.
I'm a teacher, my first year teaching was in a rough school where we went on lockdown multiple times for various reasons. Every time, I knew that I would lay down my life to protect my students if necessary. Over a decade later, teachers and students are trained every school year in multiple emergency scenarios including active shooter response. I know how to secure the building if there is a threat. Several teachers and I have an unwritten pact that we will take down any active shooter. I am 42 / F math teacher. We show up at work every day prepared to sacrifice our lives for our students. I'm very sad to learn the LEOs who responded to this were not.
School I went to allowed teachers to carry and they had a plan of action they practiced during drills. If you’re school allows it, it’s something that is highly recommended
As a former cop, and one who has entered buildings while being shot at, these cops are cowards and should resign en masse. The community is better off without them. That PD should be required to sew a yellow stripe up the spine of their shirt to signify their cowardice. It just rankles me how they could stand around and shoot the breeze while that monster was in the building. Heads should roll. 1) the incident commander that classified this as a barricaded subject situation. 2) The chief of the Uvalde police. 3) the sheriff of that county. 4) The Uvalde cops on duty standing outside that school. 5) The county deputies standing outside that school. 6) the state troopers standing outside the school.
These cops should resign immediately or be fired. they should lose their pension and have the money sent to the families of murdered children. If you can't save the elementary children, it's just cowardice like you said.
I am an medical professional. We also go toward incidents, with the best possible efforts to save lives. My husband and I agreed that had we been there, we would have acted. I would be willing to bet, the majority of parents and emergency responders would do the same. Shame on the police handcuffing parents and threatening with tazers instead of saving children. They were cowards but should not have stopped people willing to risk their own lives to save others.
Well said! Thank you NONE OF THEM HAVE ANY BUSINESS WEARING A BADGE AND POLICE UNIFORM. ALL OF THEM SHOULD RESIGN IMMEDIATELY. ALSO, ALL OF THEM ARE COMPLICIT IN THE MASS MURDER. THEY ACTUALLY ENABLED THE KILLER BY NON ACTION WHEN THEY HAD AN OBLIGATION TO ACT THAT SUPERSEDED THE INCOMPETENT COMMANDER IN CHARGE.
@@melaniescott1039 It's a long story, but basically a gang did a drive by on a bar. I got to the bar first. Man hit at the base of the skull. I tried helping, then EMTs arrived. The gang decided to do a second drive by, with all of us inside. Myself and the EMTs didn't flinch (while everyone else dove for the floor). An EMT told me to get them, and I did. The man died, so the six gang members I arrested went to prison for murder. I also come from a family with nurses. Nurses protect their patients. Since several doctors nearly killed me by injecting me with things I told them that I'm allergic to, I'm not too crazy about doctors. EMTs, lots of respect, lots.
The fact that the department's story keeps getting backpedalled is truly telling. Not only did they not act out of cowardice, but they can't even own up to it. Like a child caught in a lie that they refuse to own up to.
When this first happened they were saying on the news he had "no signs of mental illness", looks likes they misled us about that too. Though in fairness, if he wasn't in treatment they wouldn't be able to find out until they got to interview people who knew him.
@Ken Ward come on, man, Trump is the archetype lying cry baby and you know it. The mayor, chief of police, governor, and leuitenant governor are all birds of a feather.
To enter a career where you are expected to encounter danger, and fail to act when the lives of the most innocent are on the line is the most unforgivable cowardice. If you can’t do the job, at least don’t interfere with those who will.
Exactly, it is not cowardice to stop Border Patrol who arrived at 12:10PM and hold them back for an hour. It is not cowardice. It is not waiting for the tactical team, because they were there already. It was not waiting for body armor or whatever poor excuse, because the tactical team was there with everything needed and ready to go or assist in any way possible.
@Jackie McCall "To enter a career where you are expected to encounter danger" Even though most police officers don't encounter spree killers during their entire career. "fail to act when the lives of the most innocent are on the line" You've confused not doing what you wanted them to do with not doing anything. "is the most unforgivable cowardice." Says the armchair general. "If you can’t do the job, at least don’t interfere with those who will." The idiots trying to run into the building couldn't do the job either.
Another sad aspect of what happened is that the police involved have shown zero remorse or shame for what happened. The department was more upset about body cam footage that got leaked than their own colossal failure.
To this day, as it was during the shooting, the main thing with these cops is protecting themselves. Its probably better there arent too many serious investigations of police forces, cause we would hate the results. I know many do their best, but many cops cover up what ever the really bad cops do, as they would be chased out of their jobs if they didnt toe the line. They can never work as cops again if they become whistleblowers. Its truly a "gang in blue".
Many cops act brave when they encounter people who commit misdemeanors, but in this case they failed miserably, smh. Rip to those kids, and both teachers, condolences to all the families.
I do wonder if your police were not routinely armed if they would be so 'brave' when attacking law-abiding civilians. Our police in the UK are not routinely armed, we have special units for armed work. But I suppose your insane gun culture makes that impossible.
@@alisonwilson9749 not my culture, I'm a citizen of America yes, but I don't make the laws, nor do I own a gun! You need to check yourself real quick like, and not make dumb ass comments as if it's my fault!
Exactly!!! When I was a kid, we had a local chapter of a renowned outlaw bikie gang in the neighbourhood. Those guys rode their (magnificent) Harleys around the ‘hood at three times the speed limit and the cops turned a blind eye. Instead, they were busy monstering scared 11 year old kids who didn’t have a light as well as a reflector on the back of their bikes. Goddamned yellowbellies!
Cops love to shoot your dog for no reason as well. I was in the Marines, infantry. I was also a teacher. That school had windows, they all do, and I saw the windows in the news video. It is standard procedure to take out a target from two different vantage points. Cops should have gone to the window and shot in some tear gas, then shot at gunmen or the ceiling to distract him and the other cops kick the down down and rush in. Why they didn't do that is beyond me.
What about Abbott who enabled this by reducing so many regulations to satisfy the NRA, and keep the money flowing. Hard to be more corrupt than Abbott.
they were trained to do that by the "association of international police chiefs- a constitutionally illegal group that has police from Russia, China, Arabia, etc they come here and "train the training police= this is why you see so many abuses nowadays.
@@lorettanericcio-bohlman567 again =trained by an evil international organization to take care of just themselves- we must stop the training from international groups
We have to remember that it is not the job of the police to protect people (Supreme Court, 2016) They were protecting themselves by not exposing themselves to gunfire.
They waited….for a key. You have got to be kidding me. They don’t wait for a key when they execute no-knock warrants. They don’t wait for a key when there’s “reason to believe” that a crime is being committed. May I suggest that they had an inkling that a crime was in fact, being committed? That they were perhaps simply “in fear of their lives”? Kind of like all the small children frantically dialing 911? The fact that some officers went in to rescue their own children proves that they were well aware of the nature of the situation at hand. The much maligned word “woke”, is fitting for the general mood of much of the nation. I don’t see a single thing wrong with people waking to the nightmare we’ve been living in, and finally stomping on the brakes. Demanding that at long last, the wax museum figures in Congress get off their asses and do their job. I, for one, am pretty sick of paying for them to hang around exchanging stock tips, meeting with lobbyists, getting in sound bites for campaign ads, and taking lovely extended “breaks”, that would have anyone else facing dismissal from their job. I’m sick of their projection and pivoting, game playing and finger pointing. Please, for Pete’s sake, someone stop playing hot potato with the buck. Edit: I’ve heard now, that a parent sneaked into the school, and got her kids out. I don’t know what the truth is. It does add to the absurdity of the situation.
That mom was placed in handcuffs, got out of handcuffs, jumped the fence and got her 2 kids. Can't blame her. I agree with all you've said. Truly heartbreaking. Thoughts and prayers are all the congressmen ever offer, no change
It will depend on how often they could hear a gunshot while they waited whether it was a hostage situation or murders were being committed and people were bleeding out. It will depend on how hard the person in charge was having to demand brave officers to stand down on what my opinion is of those officers but I’m quite sure that you would’ve had to shoot me to keep me from going in.
Thank you, Mama Petillo, for voicing the truth in a no nonsense manner. Everyone has a voice and must use it. All the platitudes from politicians is absolutely sickening. Beto O'Rourk stood up to them and his first amendment rights were violated. We're not going away.
Congress needs to get rid of “gun free zones”, allow teachers to arm themselves, get rid of CRT, end touchy feely PC police policies, stand up to the anti gun lobby and left wing media
As career soldier of 22 years I can honestly say that you make good points on the mental state of people who have to make that choice of taking a life knowing that they are human as well. However, when it comes to actions that is expected from them we train are troops to handle a situation like war or clearing a building which in itself requires hours of training. This training is conducted so when and if that situation occurred they automatically revert to muscle memory where their actions come from training and act accordingly. My analysis from my experience gives a different approach on this matter. When a person chooses to kill his state of mind is set to kill. So, our soldiers are trained to handle a situation such s as clearing or to be blunt to eliminate the target. They don’t retreat even if a member is shot. A member of the assault team usually from the back who radio that a member is down one member of that team will pull the injured member to safety. Yet the team moves forward to accomplish the mission or the intended action of eliminating the target. We have to remove the human aspect of the target and engage said target with the objective to neutralize the shooter. Does this impact the individuals after completing their task? Sure it does. However they reflect on what they have done with a different approach on the situation. The satisfaction they completed the mission objective which is obvious they eliminated the target. I was trained to think from a different mind set about what I may do I’d put in that situation. In essence I train my troops in the same manner as I was taught just as those before me had been trained and to train their soldiers in the same manner. I will also mention that when soldiers take a job as becoming a peace officer, they will recognize a perpetrator is in different about what they are doing their approach is changed and in a few situations they can talk deescalate the situation. That in itself should tell you that they don’t want to kill if they don’t have to but if there is no other choice. By that it means if the shooter is doing that then the choice is obvious on what must be done. I appreciate your view from your experience and express your thoughts about the different behaviors that are imposed on police officers. I hope that you may find my view helpful. As a combat engineer I take many views on soldiers and the facilities where such things have happened but that would not be related to your shared thoughts about the actions or in this case the inactions of the officers.
A little girl in the connecting room to where the shooter barricaded himself displayed more courage & bravery than the police. She took the cellphone from her dead teacher’s hand & dialed 911 multiple times asking for help! I believe she called at least 5-7 times! She also had the wherewithal to cover herself in blood from her classmates in order to appear deceased.She also helped muffle the cries of a classmate that was shot in the leg whenever the shooter started coming into her side of the room. This went on for over an hour! This is beyond heartbreaking, and to think there were only 2 days left in the school year.May all these 19 children & 2 teachers that lost their lives so senselessly RIP 🙏 and may all the survivors , their family,& community find the solace they deserve. We need to do better,it seems as though there has been one mass shooting after another.
I can't find info on this, you should make a video, I really want to know what happened to that girl and those in the room more specifically the timeline. This way it will be clear what the cost of the police mistake was.
One of the mothers the police handcuffed got out of her handcuffs, jumped the fence and located her children and escaped with them. Shame on the police. I hope the parents file the mother of all lawsuits against the police.
As much as I wish the parents to win a lawsuit against the Uvalde PD, I predict that when that case reaches the Supreme Court it will rule in favor of the police ruling "The police had no duty to protect (those kids)". The SCOTUS has been ruling this consistantly case after case for decades. example cases include but not limited to: Waren V DC, Gonzales V Castle Rock, Lozito V NYC, and even Parkland the SCOTUS ruled in response to the suit regarding the school resource officers standing outside the building during that rampage shooting "The police have no duty to protect those outside their custody".
These Police officers acted unlike any Cops I know ,they went after the parents but not willing to go in after the Shooter ,this whole situation and killings seemed to be Orchestrated for Political purposes and those 19 babies and 2 teachers were sacrificed!!!
How many of those babies were laying in pain desperately waiting to be saved. What the police did was unacceptable. Each one needs to be held accountable.
Imagine if this were a hospital and there were people dying from bleeding out with enough time to save people, but the doctors refused to do anything because they were scared of blood.
If this psycho was so “poor” how did he manage to purchase a near $2,000 AR, plus an undisclosed 2nd rifle, a pistol and hundreds of rounds of ammo plus dozens of mags??? I haven’t seen anyone address this?
@@emilychristina3172 that wouldn’t fly either, when he took delivery at his FFL, he filled out a 4473 form and the names have to match up. The guns would not be shipped with his name on it if someone else paid for it. My understanding is he bought them locally anyway.
there's a short clip of one of his classmates talking about him saying that he was not bullied, he emphasized that part, and said that he often was the bully but that his bullying would fail and that that would infuriate him.
Both can be true. He could have been bullied when he was younger & turned into a bully as he got older or bullied by higher ups in high school & was a bully to the more vulnerable. Either way, calling someone a school shooter is reckless & no good can come from it. No telling what role that played in this.
The teachers put themselves in front of the students to shield them. The cops - trained in active shooter situations - wouldn’t even go in the school to save the kids.
And yet those cops ha e better insurances, better Social Security, better 401Ks, better unions and definitely better checks than the teachers. The same teachers who basically YEETED themselves towards the gunman.
@@LadyCoyKoi *Theoretically,* cops’ higher salary is because the job is more dangerous, higher burnout, higher rate of injury and death on the job. The cops in Uvalde chose to stay safe and allow others to be in danger, despite having signed up for a job they knew is dangerous.
Your analysis was thoughtful and spoke to the change in culture of law enforcement. I’ve witnessed 1st hand and also seen on tv officers commanding a suspect for “my safety.” Their primary goal from training is to go home at the end of their shift. This is a gut-check for every department & every officer. Ask yourself “why do I want to be a cop?” If it’s not to someday have the chance to risk your life for the life of a stranger, do anything else. All anyone can do is pray for courage when it’s needed. Sadly, I’m afraid the death toll from Uvalde hasn’t ended yet.
Every one of those cops should be fired, lose their pensions, and be charged for assaulting those parents. And, their higher-ranking officials should be fired and charged for lying and trying to cover up their actions. Police training needs to be overhauled, and police or their unions shouldn't be allowed to conduct their own internal investigations on themselves. The more that comes out about this, the worse it gets on all sides.
There has been misinformation about what really happened! This guy does not know what happened. He was not there and what he is saying is only his opinion not facts!
No one can accuse you of lacking courage, Dr.Grande. I had no idea about the background or the facts of this tragedy. I agree with you; none of us know how we will react under that kind of situation/pressure, but - damn!! None of those police officers should keep their jobs. I'm sickened and horrified at a whole new level after hearing ALL the facts. Thank you, Dr. Grande, for speaking TRUTH.😪💖
No, they did lack courage. 19 armed officers just sat to watch 20 kids get sprayed with bullets and did NOTHING to stop it. thats the ultimate price of cowardice. Miserable people in my eyes. Theyre shooting unarmed civilians left and right, but what happend when the duck shot back? They ran and hide while ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KIDS were being massacred. And even when they begged for help to save their lives they did nothing. They should be held accountable just the same way they hold us accountable.
@@stonermane621 yeah dude, and you would have single handedly killed all the nazis, you'd stop every mass shooting and every narco drug cartel if given the opportunity... thank god we have people like you to scare the evil away
I can’t believe the police didn’t save the children and handcuffed and pepper sprayed upset parents instead, but made sure to save their own children. They should be sued! Maybe they’re not soldiers and no one really wants to do that job, but if they don’t want to actually do the job they shouldn’t be allowed to just ignore that a classroom of little kids is being murdered. And this was a huge event that will be in history books and that the entire world is now aware of. This is almost crossing the line of acting like criminals instead of police. It certainly wasn’t a heroic act. I guess it was good of them to decide to do something after 2 dozen people had been killed an hour after the shooting started, but it sure took a lot to motivate them into action. Every one of them should be fired, and it does seem like they deserve some kind of jail time. It’s similar to nurse standing there and watching 20 people in their care die and not even trying to do anything to help them.
I am pro-police. Because of that I realize they MUST be held accountable if they want the public trust and respect. Many, if not all of these cops should be jailed for decades at the minimum. This is despicable behavior.
Just when I think it couldn't get any worse I find out a new, even more horrifying, detail. Cops on the scene went into the school to save their own children but left the rest behind?!?! I cannot comprehend any of this.
@@DoubleDash28 Of course he’s lying lmao. Cops and cop supporters lie ALL the time because they can and are above the law. Sick of the lack of accountability and consequences handed to cops, it’s sickening. The budget of this town in questions is about 10 Million, and 4 Million goes to their police force. 40% of the cities budget belongs to the police
@@DoubleDash28 OF COURSE HE IS LYING. Hes not comming out here and tell us with a straight face "Yeah, I saved my child but left yours to die in pain and fear while begging for their lives" he already changed the story a dozen times
@@DoubleDash28 the police officer was on the news he was at the barbershop when his wife texted him an active shooter was at the school their daughter went to the police officer said he got a rifle from the barbershop owner went directly to the school to get his daughter several police officers at the school went in with him to get his daughter while other parents were blocked from getting their children..😡
@@CavaleiroDasTrevas-0615 I can see how you would think this. The cops were so terribly incompetent, taking zero action to save those kids that it makes you explore conspiracies.
Watching the officers waste precious time manhandling moms and dads while this creep was actively firing upon children inside was pretty disappointing and infuriating IMO. Like they're just standing there with their bits in the wind; waiting around for a cavalry when they WERE these kids' only cavalry. Its just a hard one to swallow. Can't imagine what these families must feel 💔
The low income community said police responded to calls in general very slowly . I think the Latinos kids does not give them the needs to urgently save lives
What stands out to me is the difference between these cops and cops in the past. There's plenty of cases through the years of cops risking their lives without hesitation to stop an active shooter. Not so much nowadays. The other thing is, it happened in Texas, where cops swagger about like they're John freakin' Wayne. I think that specifically for Texas, that myth just died and invoking it from now on will only bring laughter and ridicule, which is probably healthy.
Thank you Dr Todd for being very direct with your thoughts and not just rambling. Your points are clear, concise and non-blaming. It would be interesting to review all these mass shootings and identify common denominators. This may help someone non-professional to report a concern of a threat. IDK but parents need to wake up!
Can you touch on this type of behavioral disorders, from the police who got their kids, to the gun man and the people he encountered (bullies, old friends, and friends who received the gun pictures and knew his plans but didn't act)
This guy is a total charlatan, how could you support him? I live close to Uvalde and it's apparent he didn't bother to do research and is spreading disinformation. He also deletes comments.
*His classmate stated that he wanted everyone to know he was NOT bullied, that he used to kill animals, would pick on kids and get angry if he didn't get a reaction and go to the park to pick fights*
very bold and true description of the majority of the police. Also one expression shouldn t be left outside the description... paralyzed cowards without any vocation for their profession and any understanding of their mission and, ultimately, no respect for human lives...their own children
As a Marine, the training the Dr. talks about “Solider vs Cops” is 100 percent true. When I graduated boot camp I sincerely welcomed the chance to die for my Country. I carried that sentiment for years.
One of mine and my husband's best friends is a retired marine. He told us, your never an ex-marine, you're a Marine for life. You really do have to be one of those rare persons who automatically put yourself in danger for others. My Aunt is also a retired marine, and it really is a family.
What a shame that the gunman wasn’t immediately confronted. It’s almost hard to believe the officers were waiting out in the hall while the children themselves were calling for help. What a tragedy.
No, that is not hard to believe. That is why people have been protesting against the police loudly for a few years now. Not only do they murder innocent civilians, but they are spineless psychopathic and dim witted cowards that can't even do the job they are tasked with.
Right, grown men using small children as a shield. Nausiating. When the cops put themselves first and can't protect the kids even.... They are pretty useless.
@Gayle Sharp "What a shame that the gunman wasn’t immediately confronted." 3 police officers did that and had to retreat because they were outgunned. "It’s almost hard to believe the officers were waiting out in the hall while the children themselves were calling for help." Almost like the gunman had either stopped shooting them or they were in a safe location.
If that was their own kid, they possibly could break it with their bare hand even . It’s disgusting how they handled the whole situation resulting to many kids loosing their lives
@@Thang4321 hell I know people that would have done it just to help out not knowing who was in that classroom… because they would rather see something done than hurry up and wait
Hands down no question they’re cowards. They are part responsible for the deaths of 21 people. Being confronted with a shooter is not all that intense. These are trained officers. No orders or anything should have stopped them. Idc if you’re alone and unarmed. You run in and do what you can
But to handcuff and pepper spray parents who were willing to confront the shooter -- forcing them to listen to their children being slaughtered. That is cowardice approaching depravity, if not aiding and abetting murder. Leave aside dereliction of duty, impersonating law enforcement, child endangerment... A lifetime of unending shame seems too light a reward.
Right???? They were allowed to go and get their kids!! They were willing to risk their lives for their kids and those officer stopped them!! HORRIFYING!
*It was not a "tactical team" it was an off-duty Customs and Border Protection agent from an elite tactical unit that had the balls to go in and take out that MONSTER. The cowardice of every other officer is SHAMEFUL and I'd argue more horrifying than the shooters actions, especially knowing they did go in and selfishly rescured their own kids and left the rest to perish.... SHAME TO THOSE PIGS
The customs office is located across the street from the school according to a reporter who was on scene after the shooting. According to the latest report they arrived on scene and waited with the rest of the police for 30 minutes before deciding to disobey the police chiefs order and enter the classroom and shoot the 18 year old shooter.
I hear in the old days that police were elected by the people. It brought them a higher level of honor giving them more obligation to protect and a bigger push towards bravery. Maybe we should bring this back. Maybe all cops need to be paid more and must have a bachelor's in sociology, psychology, and serve at least 4 years in the military. We should up the ante!
I was shocked and sickened to see footage of all those heavily armed cops just standing around and targeting the parents. What a total disgrace. These cops were the full definition of what a coward is.
It's strange that they're usually full of machismo/bravado, sometimes mixed with outright hostility when dealing with (harassing and fining) innocent motorists during traffic stops.
The videos from parents and private citizens revealed law enforcement Officers with long guns and body armour, acting like parking lot attendants an holding back the parents, who called on them to go in and save their children. The husband of one of the Teachers who was killed, had received a text from his wife advising there was an active shooter at the school. He arrived on scene, and was held back from helping. CNN also showed the Incident Commander, Arredondo, shaking hands with other Officers before going into his Uvalde Office. He showed NO remorse or regret. Apparently despite saying the ceremony was cancelled, the Town still swore him in to a position on the Town Council. The pact of silence and self-preservation and the Blue line..
Some cops never fail to pull people over to give people tickets, arrest the wrong people for "looking suspicious," shooting dogs for barking at them, or dark-skinned people for arguing with them... But hesitate to help children in a school shooting. Something needs to change in their training.
So many questions about why the police behaved the way they did. Couldn’t they and the parent’s hear the gun shots? Didn’t they know the shooter was actively shorting? Not barricaded in the school? I’m certain the parents could hear. They thing they did? Was treat the parent’s as if they were wrong for wanting to save their children. Why? Why did they treat that parent’s so harshly for wanting to go into the school to get their children? They just stood around doing nothing. It was border patrol officers who stopped the shooter. So much of this horrific story doesn’t make sense. I doubt they will receive much respect after this. They should all quit.
The fact police detained parents who wanted to go in & do the job **they** were too chicken shit to do themselves… yet still went in to save their own kids… is unfathomable. May they reap what they have sown.
I know hell isn't real. There is no god, but if there is one thing I wish for in this lifetime, is that I sincerely hope that there is a great suffering waiting for them somewhere, when they finally die.
The police response was disgraceful. The Dawson College incident in Montreal where two nearby officers just ran in with their side arms, not waiting for anyone, and pinned down the assailant has been commonly determined to be the model for action.
Exactly. In the recent shooting at Oxford High, the Oakland County, Michigan, Sheriff officers marched straight in and captured the murderous punk, with no hesitation.
Sure...initiative and courage Solve ambiguous, complex problems given little to no concrete information That used to be the model for policing But now...you don't do anything until you've been authorized and have reviewed the policy and procedure manual Perhaps solicited an independent legal opinion Otherwise...you are likely to loose your house paying the legal fees to stay out of jail Me...I retired Because the only way to win...is not to play
There’s an active shooter protocol here, they’re supposed to be trained for it. Officers move toward the target, if the shooter is firing at the police, he’s not shooting at the children. There were windows in the classroom. There’s no reason at all they couldn’t have drawn his attention and had the police enter the room. The children were all hiding, he was walking around in the classrooms, could they have seen him through those windows?
@@notlikely4468 there is an active shooter protocol. Police are trained to move toward the target, as quickly as possibly. In an active shooter situation you don’t have to ask for permission or anything else. You move toward the target, if you draw his fire, he’s not shooting at the children. There are police, retired police around the country saying what happened here is a prime example of exactly what should not happen in an active shooter situation.
@@vflytrap7158 You’re waaay out of line.... Sleepy Joe and those who actually voted for him are responsible for the “gun free zone” where criminals can do their deeds. You libs are also responsible for the cops being so touchy feely now due to your BLM terrorists.
I agree. And we shouldn't let this be forgotten. Just as students who survived the Florida school mass $hooting, we need to make certain this stays a topic that remains at the foreground. How many more innocent people need to die before something changes? How many more defenseless children will be targeted, and cowardly cops ignore their pleas for help? And along with the NRA, who wouldn't consider postponing, every politician who couldn't care less, and still attended the convention, it needs to be their political sui¢ude. Only souless, heartless bast*rds would continue on, celebrating their "guπs are great" club within days of a mass casualty as a result of such guπs.
Well said, yeah. That sounds like a sad window into the kind of dysfunctional world this kid was clearly knee-deep in. When you kill 19 children in cold blood, even mom has to admit you are a monster. It's self-evident.
*was He *WAS* a monster. Shithead Salvador isn't doing anything monstrous anymore because he is currently 40°F in a fridge and serving as food for the bacteria in his guts. Momma sounds like she's not good at handling cognitive dissonance.
Children in schools are taught how to react if a shooter enters the building, yet the police apparently has no training on how to deal with these situations. Unlike the children, the police have protective gear, their own firearms, and they are assumed trained professionals. Self-preservation is the core value of any living organism, yes, but protecting the population, and children especially, should be the core value of any police officer.
Have u been watching news ? Cops will never risk their lives to help . They will beat down an elderely person and charge them wit resisting arrest though
They were trained in active shooter situations. They just refused to act because their commanding officer stated the suspect was contained in a specific classroom (which apparently stops categorizing the incident as an active shooter incident). So they waited for the SWAT team to intervene instead of acting. To the police officers, containing him to that classroom was action enough to stand down. The problem is, he was stuck there with dozens of people and was willing to shoot them. The officers decided it was OK to risk the few vs exposing the entire school. I could understand that logic if the shooter was stuck in a closet but he locked himself up in a room full of innocent people on his own. The police didn't contain him anywhere. There's really no way to see this response in a positive way from any angle. The had school staff unlock the room for them to gain access which is insane!
You said this so well! Exactly. As humans we all should have self preservation but when it comes to babies I do not care I will put my life on the line to save my own and someone else’s in a situation like that. The teachers were more brave than those officers, I read that a teacher actually used herself as a shield for a student :(
What's truly tragic is that kid was 18. Think about that for a second, he was just in school and went through those drills. The sad sad reality is we are unknowingly training the next generation of shooters on where people hide thus rendering the training pointless.
I can’t imagine the helpless rage those parents must have felt seeing some officers going in to save their own children while other officers tazed the parents that tried to do the same….
Those cops must have believed they were doing the parents a favor by stopping them from going in the building. Hey, we saved your lives and you don't thank us for doing our duty?
@@ApparationsOfGloom I don’t think you understand the comment you replied to. From reading it I don’t think the commentor was saying what they did was right. But how they were justifying it to themselves. I think you need to relax and stop trying to be an edgelord.
The fact that not even 1 out of 19 took action implies to me that there is a cowardly culture in that Police force. The shooter may well have tortured the children like he did the animals, slowly killing one at a time. I think school floor plans should be available to police at a moments notice, like on a police app or something.
There must have been some windows in these classrooms, why didn't they surround the shooter and cover the door and any windows. That approach may have distracted the shooter from focusing on the children.
Or society can try nip things at the bud by paying attention to kids growing up in their communities. The parents of this young man need to be confronted. The grandmother must have had some knowledge well before this all happened and could have got the kid some help. There must have been clues he was a ticking timebomb. Blaming the cops, arming them with data, arming teachers is all very well but it's cheaper and easier to simply pay attention to your kids.
Everything about U.S. police is rooted in cowardice. Every second of a cop's day is rooted in fear and they are under no legal obligation to protect anyone. The myth of protect and serve clashes with the reality of "we protect ourselves and our own." But it will be interesting to see if the Uvalde PD gets specifically thrown under the bus when most cops would've done exactly the same, even when hearing rounds being fired into schoolchildren.
I'm struck by the contrast in the behaviour of the police in this case, with the actions of two teachers in the UK in 1994. An armed man had entered their school, and held a class of twelve- and thirteen-year-olds hostage. After another teacher raised the alarm, the two male teachers-including the deputy head-raced to the classroom and looked through the glass door, to see the intruder attacking the children with a knife. Believing that the man also had a gun, the two teachers didn't hesitate: they stormed the classroom, and overpowered the attacker. Tragically, one girl died, and two others were seriously wounded. However, I believe that those two brave men saved the lives of several children that day. I'd personally known that deputy head teacher. In 1981, he was my science teacher. I recall him as level-headed, jokey, and had a good relationship with his pupils. I don't know where he is these days, but I hope he's enjoying the peaceful retirement he deserves.
Thank you for this story - don’t see such courage much now a days. Unfortunately the gun lobby would use this as propaganda. No gun involved they’ll say. And, “see if that teacher had a gun he could have saved the little girl”. Just another excuse for them to do nothing except offer empty platitudes like “thoughts and prayers”
At Virginia Tech, a cadet tried to storm that maniac Cho and was shot dead. A knife is a big difference between 2 semi automatic high powered rifles. I don't mean to belittle the heroism but you cannot compare 2 completely different incidents just like you cannot mix oil and water. What happened here is beyond tragic. Unbelievable mistakes were made. Actions necessary to save lives were not taken. I hope heads roll on this one.
@@dvrdown1981 (1) The intruder had an imitation firearm. (2) The teachers believed he had a real firearm, but entered anyway. (3) The fact that the killer didn't have access to a real gun is evidence that gun control can at least limit the damage.
You have made an excellent presentation here, thank you for your professional insights. A mistaken notion is that the shooter killed 19 students and 2 teachers. The reality is. he certainly shot them, but how many bled out over the hour that ticked past while police dithered in the hall? That portion should be chalked up to the police inaction. Police are fond of referring to their employers, the public, as civilians; what then are the police? If they are under the illusion, they are military grade then they should be brought up on UCMJ article 99, ‘misbehavior before the enemy’. If police had made a timely entry a significant number of wounded would have received medical care and likely lived. An impartial corner should make that determination and the probable loss of lives laid at the doorstep of those police and their departments. There were so many things they could or should have been done. Even throwing stones at/ through the window. My choice would be drive a front end loader with a man in the bucket, [or the police SWAT armored vehicle] up to the windows, sharp shooters or not so sharp shooters could provide covering fire if the shooter made himself a target by appearing at the window. This would open two fronts, assault at the class room door(s) and attack at window(s). What is the shooter going to do? Get angry and shoot someone? He is already doing that, at his discretion / leisure thanks to no notable actions against him. I am for the Uvalde families injured and uninjured alike, making determination of the future of the persons in authority involved, aka a jury of ones peers.
Wait, so the parents arrived at the site of a massacre where police weren't doing anything and when they demanded that police actually do their jobs and save their children, they were pepper sprayed and handcuffed? What were the police doing? Having a bloody tea party while they heard shots being fired and terrified children screaming and dying? This is such a heartbreaking tragedy. I remember being the age these children were and the only thing that I was worried about was trying to sneak my way into the school library on days that weren't my library day to convince the school librarian to let me take out more books. No child should find themselves in a situation where their school... their place of sanctuary and learning... becomes a literal war zone where they are the targets. There's a sheriff that I watch sometimes (for some reason he's always on my TH-cam recommendations even though I am not an American) who said it the best. What this police department did in terms of responding to this school shooting is unacceptable. I wonder if they were trained to deal with something like a mass shooter? I hope that changes are made to ensure that every police agency in the United States (and the world) are trained to prevent this tragedy from happening. Children should not be dying due to school shootings.
Exactly! Aren't police officers usually wearing kevlar vests underneath their shirts? The children certainly weren't wearing one and they were the ones the gun was aimed at. Of course, although wearing protective gear, the police were afraid to try and go in and save children's lives. Shame shame! Americans need to clean up their act and control of guns.
I know.that sheriff!!! Grady, Polk county!!😆 I'm from England and always watch him!! He's fantastic!!! McMaddening these cops aren't worth a toe on his foot!!!!
Veteran here. You’re dead on about the veteran’s mindset. I had to quickly accept that my life doesn’t matter in order to get through deployments. I know there are a half dozen ways to open a locked door, and a shotgun makes the process a breeze. They had no reason to wait for keys. Maybe we ask selflessness from cops. Maybe that’s too tall an order, but even so, those officers directly prevented anyone brave enough from going in, by force. I have nothing but disdain for their behavior. You’re kinder than I have managed to be.
9:42 That was exactly my mindset through 7 combat deployments in Afghanistan and Iraq. Accepting that it was inevitable freed me from all the stress of death and allowed me to use the fear and adrenaline as tools to boost performance during each firefight/engagement. The problem with doing that for so long was when death never came and I retired I realized I had so anticipated dying that I didn't know what to do with the life I believed I would never get to live. I still don't know. I feel like I'm in a world I don't belong in. Edit: I put these thoughts to paper so to speak because his statement startled me. It almost felt like I was called out in way and so I felt compelled speak. Not just for someone's else's benefit but for my own. It's easy to dismiss your own thoughts and pack them away but to say it aloud at least gives me the chance to face it, to give it form and do something about it. Im surprised it received any attention at all or resonated with any of you. I don't want to detract or take attention away from the true purpose of this video which is a much more pressing issue than my own self realization. I thank you all for your comments and support and wish everyone of you the best in all your struggles in life. Edit 2: Fear is the most human response to combat which is why tough, repetitive and realistic training is so important for soldiers, particularly combat arms soldiers. The repetition is there to build muscle memory so when that fear and adrenaline surge through your system your body knows what to do without the need for deliberate decision making. The actions and reactions need to be second nature because time is of the essence. In the case of these officers their clear lack of training resulted in fear causing them to not know what to do, or even how to do it. I can only speculate but I think they never put any real effort into any training they received for this type of situation due to complacency. They believed it would never be something that would happen in their small town so they hand waved the training and moved on to whatever they believed would be a better use of their time. Again, this is just my assessment based on my experience as a US infantryman. I'm sure there is more to it as these kinds of things are generally a chain of failures over a period of time culminating in a event where these failures align and a tragedy unfolds.
Your description helps me understand what I’ve gone through with an often fatal form of cancer....accepting the certainty of death helps me but it is also very confusing at times....thank you.
I love the freedom that we have in Canada and the United States. I love and appreciate both you and my grandfather for defending democracy and the Constituition. It has been shit on quite a bit in the last 6 years. I am a conservative and a constitutional scholar thank you for risking your life for me.
I think what produces courage is anger toward the threat and empathy for the potential victim. That was what drove me to run toward danger when a man was being attacked without thinking much about my own wellbeing. I felt empathy for him, like a jolt in the chest, when he screamed for help as if he thought he was being murdered, and anger at the attackers, anger at the injustice of their actions. I immediately began to sprint toward the sound of his voice, and fought off the attackers, one of which managed to graze my chin with a blow that took off a little skin. They had him down on the ground, and where kicking him hard, which is potentially lethal.
One teen who knew Ramos growing up in Uvalde has come forward and said Ramos was NOT bullied, but rather he was a bully who became incensed when his targets didn't become sufficiently upset when he sought to intimidate/harm. The effects of bullying can be terrible, I know, but I think we have it in our collective mindset that all young shooters were bullied, giving them an excuse, and that's simply not the case.
Killing and torturing animals as a child was a Huge Red Flag and he needed psychiatric intervention, treatment and probably commitment to an institution. He should not have been in a regular school environment endangering innocent children and teachers. Was there ever a School intervention for psychiatric assessment ? Being Texas perhaps killing animals is an acceptable form of entertainment.
I heard that he was actually the bully as well. I am born and raised in Texas and can say with 100% certainty killing animals for entertainment is never acceptable. Unfortunately, there are people in this world, not just in Texas, that hunt for sport. Clearly the shooter was a very disturbed person who needed closer supervision.
You have hit the nail with your head. All the officers should be fired, including the chief. It was Border Patrol officers who resolved the situation almost as soon as they got there. Incidentally, the dozens of officers who were standing around will never consider their own fault.
The Border patrol stood around with the rest for 40 minutes (the time line is on CNN). The Border patrol officer chose his words very carefully. They went in as soon as "I" got here was what he meant but tried to cover up.
I can't imagine the abject terror of the kids trapped in that room with their dead classmates and teachers and a lunatic with a machine gun for OVER AN HOUR while they begged for help from 911. My stomach hurts just imagining it. Another commonality that most of these mass murderers have is their torture of animals. Anyone who abuses animals should be put on an immediate watch list.
He was not firing a “machine gun”. I got to use machine guns in the Army. By definition, a “machine gun” is a weapon which is only capable of firing as a fully automatic. An example of this would be the M60 which Stallone fires in Rambo. What he had was two AR-15s. These are known as sporter rifles.
Not really, I remember when I was a kid I used to hammer stray cats to trees and light them on fire but I eventually got bored and grew out of it, abusing animals isn’t really related with mass shootings
Well spoken and reviewed. Thank you for your insight. I've always believed much of your analysis applied universally to many poor interactions with, behaviors of some officers. Some of them seem to defer to the "afraid for my life" statement/rationale for their poor decisions. I've always expressed my concern and frustration with this inherent fear they operate in. Fear causes people to make poor decisions, and increases the likelihood inappropriate aggressive behaviors. Hence, shootings of unarmed persons. This was a complete tragedy. Ramos' behavior and murderous act is the catalyst of it all. Yet, the inaction and seemingly cowardice of the officers is inexcusable.😢
"Some of the police entered the school and retrieved their OWN children." That was the single most chilling statement of your analysis.
Totally agree
Preservation for themselves and kin.
We should know the names of these brave police officers. Maybe they will be published when the officers themselves are fired. Not holding breath.
and how is it they only took ONE kid? I’m not sure how that works
That speaks to the overall lack of empathy in society. During the early days of the pandemic, prople were not only against wearing a mask to try to hold back a virus, they were ripping masks off the faces of other people's children. More recently, a woman who was arrested for killing her child said she couldn't be bothered to feed it. People are barely thinking of their own, much less others.
I was an EMT for five years. I have seen my fair share of mass casualty incidents and have had to put myself in harm's way multiple times. I worked with 100s of other first responders in my time. NONE of them, be they fire, police, or EMS would have tolerated the gutless cowardice on display during this event. If there was a time to risk life and limb, it was HERE. Those were CHILDREN inside that school with that monster. Every one of those officers failed to do their duty not as a cop, but as an adult to keep our children safe.
Worse still, they ACTIVELY BARRED parents from trying to save their kids. If you don't have the balls to do what needs to be done, at least step aside and let someone else do it. Horrific.
@Pat R, Bottom-line; this entire gutless police force needs to be charged with abandonment, and gross Negligence.
@@nickc8819 NO!!!......MURDER
Yea they should have sent you with the jaws of life to stand in front of the door and peel it open for them. Firefighters decline such requests
Word.
Yes to everything u said.
I was in the military for 9 1/2 years. If these officers performed this way in the military, they would be court marshaled for cowardice in the face of the enemy, and that commander in charged would be immediately relieved. They were 100% cowards, these are 8,9 and 10 year old's being murdered. What would you do if 8 year old's were being murdered. They were fucking cowards!
They claimed that were afraid of getting killed, uh there was more cops against one psycho and aren't cops trained to take down a criminal in these situations.. wtf
@@brenh2767 They were all wearing bullet proof vests for protection against onslaught of bullets, armed with high caliber fire-arms and running around like chickens with their heads cut-off. They are nothing but cowardly lions in addition to being chicken-hearted!
Exactly. I can’t even imagine a soldier or airman standing down in a situation like this. We’d be IN there. Jesus I’m so angry about this. How could they hear those shots and those childrens’ screams and just stand there behind the door? How could that on-site commander not change the order back to active shooter protocol immediately after the first 911 call from behind that door. Good lord.
Also this is the first I’m hearing that the cops on the perimeter were pepper spraying parents!! Wtaf!
It seems to be a recurring theme during these school shootings.
So true, I was in the Marines, infantry. I was also a teacher. That school had windows, they all do, and I saw the windows in the news video. It is standard procedure to take out a target from two different vantage points. Cops should have gone to the window and shot in some tear gas, then shot at gunmen or the ceiling to distract him and the other cops kick the down down and rush in. Why they didn't do that is beyond me.
The first officers on the scene were extremely quick in their initial response. They rushed down the hallway to the rooms with the gunman. Upon receiving gunfire they ran, fled , retreated and never re-engaged. They were paralyzed by the fear of being shot, so their own value superseded the value of those kids. That's the textbook definition of cowardice. Sounds harsh but it is what it is.
Seen that, that's when they should have taken action.
Nothing but the truth. Cowards. All of them.
Yeah most of us see if for what it is , cowardice. This is exactly how gangs and bullies operate, torment the weak and vulnerable and run away when confronted by real forces.
@@wowihaveachannel4862gang members dont tend to run away, theres consequences for that
Like it mattered. Everybody in that room was dead.
If cops don’t have to legally protect people, then they shouldn’t stop the ones who are willing to.
That part!!!
They think they're just there to control people.
Ultimately, isn't a police force supposed to be there to protect citizens? Isn't this why we have police forces?
I don't get it!
@@sunisbest1234 legally no. It's been proven in court. Defund the police
@@sunisbest1234 The job of police is only to investigate crime, gather evidence and present the evidence to the district attorney. The district attorney then decides whether they have sufficient evidence to have a probability of conviction.
Think of it. In my city there is only one police officer for every three hundred people. Assuming 1/3rd of those are on duty at any given time that's 1 per 900. If I'm facing some kind of threat they can't park a police vehicle in front of my house all night. And threats don't always come announced ahead of time, in fact they only very rarely do.
Which gets us to the inconsistency of laws against owning and carrying guns. Ultimately, we are personally responsible for our own safety and defense yet there are laws against carrying guns.
Imagine being one of those parents who tried to go into the school and save their child but who was restrained by the police and then finding out that your child was killed...Living the rest of your life wondering if you could have saved your child from such a fearful death had you not been restrained.
Completely false and idiotic statement. Every distraction to the shooter is a moment of time where he is not focused on the children. Wake up dude. This information is readily available. The first thing procedure says to do in the event of an active shooter is CONFRONT. Look it up!
Before their police they are human and I'm sure they were scared themselves but they signed up for the job....now we see how useless police are when you need them and how they are johnny on the spot when it comes to harassing....
I have and the thought alone is enough to make you vomit. No fucking words......
I read that the police taped some parents.
And that's why I say the police did something worse than just fail to protect. It can be argued that they ensured the kids in that classroom were sitting ducks by depriving them of ANY means of rescue
In so many of these mass shooting incidents, you hear about unarmed teachers, administrators, and school employees who put themselves in harm's way to protect the kids. Whether they distracted the shooter or used their own bodies to shield the kids from getting shot. For trained law enforcement who have the benefit of protective gear to stand there and do nothing is unconscionable.
Damn right.
They let jfk get shot at by 5 people.. It's a Texas thing
The police officers' behavior was just shameful.
Well to be fair, the commanding officer was the one who ordered to wait for tactical teams. So i don’t think a lot of these officers had a choice but it is very sad.
'Just following orders' in not a reasonable excuse.
As an outraged Texan, I thank you for your REAL and truthful analysis of the ALL of the cowards in Uvalde. The police officers that stood in that hallway for over an hour looking as if they are having an impromptu FOP meeting chatting with each other are the cowards that day we must all be truly truly concerned with. Thank you for your candor.
I saw that tonight too. That is horrific. They not only hid, each time they heard a gunshot they ran, even when they had bullet-proof shields. It was a lie to say they waited him out because the shooting had stopped. There was a lot of shooting for a long time while they hid in the hallway. Many went outside.
Cowards like this shouldn't have positions of power.
Maybe they would have stormed that room if donuts were getting killed
You must be referring the the Sorry Ass Barny Fife Coward Cops who ran in the opposite direction when they heard gunfire.
But one guy remembered to use the hand sanitizer dispenser on the wall.
Not only were the police cowards, they used FORCE against people that WEREN'T cowards to stop them from intervening in the murders that were taking place while they stood there doing NOTHING. These police AIDED and ABETTED this crime and IMO should be charged as such.
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Why did they stop the parents from saving the lives of their children? Oh that's right, so that they public wouldn't know they let defenseless civilians do the job their known for, FOR THEM!
It's why I never call the police for anything and have no respect for them
Yes. Almost as if the cops wanted this to become a mass shooting in the school.
Idk man. You weren’t there. Kid had assault rifles and a bag of ammo. A town’s police force with 16,000 population may have like, a hunting rifle maybe. They aren’t equipped for that mass shooters because it doesn’t happen that much. Also, they weren’t just doing nothing, they were actively helping children and teachers escape.
Another thing, the other sources I’ve looked at stated the shooting happened before anyone got there and that the shooter was cornered, preventing him from moving from class to class.
Another thing. Letting unarmed civilians charge into a school shooting situation is a recipe for collateral damage. Yes your children are in danger but you are even less equipped to deal with these situation than that police force was, and charging in there recklessly would absolutely get more innocent people killed.
If the cops knew that children were calling 911 inside the classroom and they still didn’t act, they deserve to be prosecuted. The reason why myself and so many others are angry, is because anyone who is a parent would have risked their lives to save innocent elementary school children. Either the 911 operators should be prosecuted for not relaying the calls to the police, or the police should be prosecuted for failing to act.
Well you could hear him shooting in the 911 calls from the kids saying kids were still alive. Of course the cops could hear the gunshots.
The local police should be fired and their 401(k) seized and given to the victims’ families.
Did you not hear that the police are not legally required to protect us? Therefore, they cannot be prosecuted for failing to protect us. Thank the Supreme Court for that ruling.
@@exrobowidow1617 great. Then there should be no restrictions whatsoever on private gun ownership. Fine. You won’t protect me and my family? Fair enough. Don’t stop me buying an M16 to do you lazy/cowardly scumbags’ job for you. We are seriously becoming PRC lite.
SCOTUS makes up “qualified immunity” in order to protect the government authority from lawsuits because law enforcement is serving the community and facing dangerous situations in order to protect the public.
SCOTUS subsequently decided that the police officers have no duty to protect the public.
It’s a crime to falsify government records.
Government records are considered factual as they are written...
as a matter of authority...
and so they write reports not as things factually happened but rather as they want the charges to read and however it would make them look good.
This behavior is fraudulent and criminal...
Corruption begets corruption.
No responsibility,
No accountability,
No transparency.
It’s not the firearms that are problem.
Any children who show a tendency to hurt small animals MUST be intervened with and carefully monitored. That behavior is a dead giveaway of psychopathic and murderous brains. Parents have to understand that this is not just kids being kids-normal children by their nature feel affection towards animals. If they feel the need to hurt them it speaks of abnormal psychology.
Agreed.
I can't believe people still don't see this. Many serial killers start out torturing and killing animals. Everyone should know that by now. What kind of so-called human being can see animal abuse and think it's ok or be indifferent about it? Grow some empathy for animals already!
His parents are stupid
Not all dangerous murderers kill or hurt small animals as children (or become a murderer) but this seem to be one common thing among many of them. Any child or teen who enjoys hurting animals should be taken as a very serious warning of something horrible going on and appropriate action taken.
Some one should have said some thing for sure , the signs were there
I’ve been in the military for 10 years, was a firefighter, and an EMT. I’m 62 years old and know myself pretty good. There is not one bit of doubt in my mind that if my grand babies were in that room, I would have used my body as a shield so the guys behind me could take him out. I’ve lived a good life. Those kids should have live theirs.
I hope you never have to make that decision. Best wishes to you.
@@TabithaJones-rg9ig I don’t do lunatic conspiracy theories. Seek help. Seriously.
🙏🙏🙏. I'm guessing, not only your grand babies... all kids.
Thank you for your service.
Hearing exactly how the police responded to this shooting makes me literally nauseous.
Almost as if it was planned...
@@anarcho-savagery2097 As if *what* was planned? This won't be an Alex Jones type of conspiracy theory, will it?
@@christiananderson4909 Alex Jones claimed it was all theatre at the time. What I'm saying is that False Flag Operation can always be a possibility when it comes to high profile shootings like these to push legislation.
@@anarcho-savagery2097 Oh, for f*ck sake. . .
@@christiananderson4909 think about it. Why would the Uvalde police correct their statements after being outted for in-action in a mass shooting that cost the lives of several children??? They barricade the shooter inside, with children screaming, and then claiming that the shooter was dead, even after still receiving 911 calls from children. 47 minutes was how much time Ramos had with the children he massacred. It's too foolish and naive to assume every mistake in-the-book, could be made and not become skeptical about it. Not only that, but they detained parents of the children that wanted to save kids. Almost as if they were following orders.....
My husband is a well respected and decorated recently retired police officer from a large first responder family. He's the most levelheaded and patient officer you'd ever meet. The kind of cop you pray shows up at your darkest moments. He watched the entire situation with silent rage building inside him and finally stated "If I'd been a parent arriving on scene and saw that cowardice unfolding, I'd shoot any officer attempting to restrain me from going into that building and neutralizing the subject. At that point, all bets are called off and someone needs to step up no matter who tries to prevent you. Some situations are not by the book, officers in charge are not always right and do go against their training and moral obligations when faced with a shocking situation. Those officers should be charged in this situation as they stood in the way of actual help."
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Exactly if you aren't going to solve the situation at least get out of the way.
I think if you shot at the police the thin blue line would suddenly have the courage to gang up on you.
Who CARES about your husband..!!
Hmmm. Your husband is no longer a cop so what he says doesn't help.
Bravery is not fearlessness. One cannot be brave without fear. Bravery is being fearful and still doing what needs to be done, regardless of your training or ability. By this measure those 19 men are cowards
An important distinction!
That’s courage you go speaking of. Bravery is more of chance taking and implies higher level recklessness. It’s courage that you want with times like this.
The two words are synonyms and if they weren't then it wouldn't matter in this case. Also known as a distinction without a difference
@Todd W. Bucy Absolutely correct. Anyone who says they're not afraid of anything is either a fool or a liar. Fear is a prerequisite for courage; without fear, there is no courage. But one must have the moral fortitude and faith to be able to master fear and use it as a motivator to do what must be done instead of allowing oneself to be paralyzed by it.
Oh a la mi
"They are trained to put their own safety above others....." Yet, a young mother- after handcuffs were removed, climbed a fence, got into the school and got her two sons without body armor, a weapon, or one thought for herself.... she should have been in charge.
Whered you see that story? I want to see!
@@elijazfrazelsassafraz3100 I seen it too if you wondering. You should be able to find it on TH-cam, it shows her from about the time she got to the school, handcuffed, no handcuffs, running in, coming out with her children. She’s given interviews too.
link pls!!
@@mamiemonrovia7654 it’s called TH-cam with a search bar… lol
@@mamiemonrovia7654 not to be cute but I’m a boomer, I have no idea how to post you a link. I just searched it and put in “woman who went in for her children in Uvalde”, it came right up.
“It's too dangerous for us. The kids will have to deal with this on their own.”
Uvalde police logic.
Heartbreaking!💔
WE ARE READY TO BE PATROLLED BY DRONES AND FOR Y'ALL TO HAVE FREE WILL TO SHOOT CRIMINALS
This is what happens when police are attacked for doing their job. Ntm hiring people based on skin color and not work ethic.
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Parents retrieved children. A
Don't trust Government, sad but true
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The police refused to stop him from shooting kids, while at the same time preventing others from stopping the shooter. They aided the shooter.
Welcome to The United States friend.
lmao literal cope
@Jarvis Richards it's Texas. Those parents were armed and ready to fight for their kids lives just like any of us would be.
The police have to actually be doing something for them to start claiming you're interfering
Hey barie, the shooter was locked in a classroom from the inside. Without a key U don't open the door. A door that is all metal including the door frame, hinges, door handle & locking system plus the metal bolt catcher. If there were 50 officers in the hall, they could not open that door. No police department would ALLOW unarmed or armed MOM or DAD to run into an active shooting scene. First it is too DANGEROUS! Second U had to have a KEY!!!
@@mitchellfraser634 The door wasn't locked, they said that during the 4 hour press conference. Also the cops had a hallagian entry tool. That's what firefighters use to get past locked doors.
Imagine if this were a fire and the fire department showed up with time to save people but refused to act based on fear. It would be completely unacceptable.
That's the difference between firemen and cops. Firemen will go in as long as they know there are people inside who need to be rescued. From what I understand the cops violated basic active shooter training. Once there is an active shooter any cop could go in on his own he does not need a supervisor to tell him when to go in. The schools police chief who gave the order to stand down and not go in has been refusing to meet the media. Texas sounds like a corrupt state. It appears there is no agency to hold anyone accountable. Currently in the news a family of five was murdered by a prisoner escapee who was able to pull off a Harry Houdini and escape while in chains off a prisoner bus transporting him to a medical appointment to another city. There should have been a notice to residents in the area of an escaped prisoner and to be aware and lock their doors. There is so much incompetence in Texas beginning with the governor all the way down.
Well cops don't have to save anyone regardless
they think their lives matter more than children lives
@@Verminator787 contrast these cops with two WWII veterans I saw in the news yesterday, June 6, on the beach of Normandy, France where they landed 78 years ago. They are around 97 years old. They both say they were in the second division landing. And that the men in the first division some of them died in the water when they were machine gunned by the Germans. They never set foot on the beach. The reporter called them heroes. They both said they were just doing their job, and that the heroes are those men lying in the cemeteries in France. Very different from those men who want to stay alive for their pensions after 20 years as police officers.
@@walterrising4276 proof cops are basically useless part 726 lmao
I just watched the police video and all I can say it’s embarrassing. There was 50 cowards in bulletproof vests, not one man had the heart to burst through the door and kill that psycho even if you take a bullet.
Why have the police made 12 changes to their story? Why. Because they know their FUCK UP Got 21 people killed. Thats. why.
Fam they had 4 ballistic shields and body armor and helmets and a whole hour and a half passed before they went in. There is no excuse fire them all charge them all. They are no longer considered men to society
@@robinantonio8870 Let's stop paying cops their enormous salaries if they don't want to protect children anymore, coward defender.
@@Moresco24fuck that bro. Grow up. They aren't "men", a "woman", a mother went in there to rescue her children without any weapons or body armor. Stop using sex as an excuse. They aren't HUMAN. That mother did more than any "man" did that day. Sex doesn't define courage.
The amount of cowardice,ineptitude, and malice on display that day in Texas is inexcusable.
You can also blame all of
those teens who said nothing as this monster was spewing all the red flags. Maybe even their parents too, if they told them that this monster was abusing cats and killing them. And calling himself “school
shooter”. Yet, they all stayed quiet. I bet they are reflecting on their mistakes now! Seems
like a lot of people there have blood on their hands.
You would have done the same
@Terri Kay
Lmao! How is that “Texas for you”? One incident and you ridiculously make a comment based on emotions.
@@ajsans9161 blame the children for not bootstrapping this? I have to give you credit for creative trolling.
Mostly by the police. The kid was clearly insane.
Basically, what we saw in Uvalde was a bunch of cops protecting a mass shooter while he murdered a bunch of little kids.
They secured the building, ensuring that no one who wanted to stop him from shooting those kids was allowed to get in.
That’s why I believe the government is behind most mass shooting to push their agenda
Sadly true Declan
spot on
@@gavinstevenson3126 Definitely I have no doubt.
They'll kill as many children as they need to kill to reach their objective.
Wow if I ever heard words of truth these are them ! You said it , to prevent anyone from entering & stoping the shooter , I never looked at it as this but it's more then clear to me now ! They secured the building until his programed task was done ! Kudos to you for opening the eyes of us all !
As a 31 year law enforcement retiree, I am convinced to many of these cops were more concerned about their own safety, than that of these children. I remember seeing some of my partners hiding in a dark alleys, while I , along with other officers, rushed to a dangerous call. Unfortunately, cowardice, does exist in police departments. It is simply, a reality.
Thank you for your input. Then, as Dr. Grande said, they shouldn't be cops.
@DEZZNUTZ 1001 Here in Germany it is. Failure to render assistance for someone in distress can get you jailtime.
@@nancilane5069 All cops are legends in their own minds.
Your all coward gang members in uniforms
@@EbonyPopeIs that the case even for ordinary citizens, or just the police?
The thing that infuriates me is the number of officers present at scene.Almost 400 armed police,
all parading around fronting in front of the news media. DISGRACEFUL.
YEP Barny Fife's. They acted like they were having a cop parade in the hallway holding their guns pointed at NOTHING.
@@anyabwilef.zainabu3507 backing away like an invisible ghost was pushing them back.
400 for one shooter 😩. Army units should be used for active shooters not Police.
As a nurse for over 20 years if I see a person go down when I am out in public without a crash cart, I do what I can to save the person. These cops were trained that you stop the threat no matter what. Every cop that didn't breach that door should turn in their badge and gun today.
I had a seizure in line at the store. There was nurse behind me. She somehow caught my 225lbs self and helped me. So thanks.
Except when you help you don't have to put your life on the line. Not that I'm defending the cops but there is a big difference, its not easy mentally to sacrafice yourself for others.
@@awawdasd4341 it’s literally what they sign up for, the kids on the other hand didn’t sign up to be shot at
I wander how you breech a school door that opens out while the shooter fires into it and you don't know where he is inside the room. What tool is used how you do it without going down in the process. It hasn't been addressed but seems difficult. Either way the keys to get in should have been there immediately if it wasn't
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The thought of those wounded children possibly laying in agony for an hour when they could’ve been saved is so infuriating.
At Columbine, heroic teacher Dave Sanders died slowly of blood loss while awaiting police. Any officer responding to a shooting should know this.
You would think after the coward LEO that stood outside fpr an hr at Parkland, they would've learned protocol by now.
Rest In Peace little ones we’ll all be together again ;(
Catie: It can literally drive people crazy to harbor those images in ones mind. Haunting. Disturbing. Traumatizing. We have entered a phase of collective madness, I think. The best thing we can do right now is practice meticulous mental hygiene. Whatever and however that works best for each. Peace.
I can’t stop thinking about that. How those cops can look a single member of the community in the eye after this…
40% of the city's budget went to the police force. They have their own swat team.
To treat parents the way they did while getting their own kids out and not engaging the shooter is so far beyond the pale. The level of cowardice is staggering.
Well I’m not surprised, most people there are not really educated
I think the rpolice officers getting their own children out were off-duty police officers. This is from the New York Times: "Some of the parents implored the heavily armed police officers at the chaotic scene to storm the school. Others, including those who were off-duty members of law enforcement, went inside themselves to try to find their own children."
@@LalithoTheRedBorderCollie How do you know?
@@LalithoTheRedBorderCollie How do you know?
IT IS CRIMINAL. THOSE COPS NEED PRISON.
You explained everything so well. For me, I’m not upset they were scared. That’s basic human nature. But their fear drove them to inaction and for that I can’t forgive them.
"Took their time", "Handcuffed the parents", "Entered the school and retrieved their own children." Fire, charge and arrest them. A band of cowards masquerading behind a badge and a belt with neat gadgets.
Exactly. It'd be great to see those cowardly officers do a perp walk and to see their tearful pleas in the courtroom - all to no avail. Guilty. 10 years behind bars. Next case.
Ah, wouldn’t that be nice? However, the courts ruled that the police do not have a duty to protect citizens. So that’s super fun.
Over 75 minutes standing outside while hearing gunshots after barricading hun into a class full of kids
The results on being COWARD...19 COWARDS cops = 19 innocent students dead..
"Neat gadgets" lol...you talk like this nerd?
Cruelty to animals is a pretty good sign that a kid needs psychological intervention.
Exactly. That's why animal cruelty needs harsher charges... If someone is willing to hurt an animal, they are a danger to the community. They will hurt children, disabled, elderly, etc.
@@uekvowzkaebbzuvrgipqxhemmwbhe that’s messed up. You may not kill people, but I’m pretty sure you have limited empathy for other people. Correct me if I’m wrong.
@@uekvowzkaebbzuvrgipqxhemmwbhe when you die...you will get to feel what its like, enjoy.
@@uekvowzkaebbzuvrgipqxhemmwbhe seriously? killing stray cats is acceptable?
@@uekvowzkaebbzuvrgipqxhemmwbhe you thought you were a big man hurting defenceless cats. One day you’ll do that to someone who will give you what you deserve
The cops failed to stop the shooter, but were very successful with folding up parents who were trying to get their kids. They're cowards. The whole force needs fired.
I agree. I have a grandson and a son who would no more stand outside a ELEMENTARY school and NOT try to save lives. This man is full of crap
They are police officers
The two teachers were braver than the so called police officers. I dint care what the chief told me to not do. I would risk losing my job to save lives.
@@shirleycoonce8726 You are a hero in my book.
Aren't you eager to have them come take your guns away according to the will of the Democrats? I don't mean to make it political but the Dems already did that themselves. Are we seriously expected to put our lives in their hands after so many repeated failures to protect the people?
Thanks!
It hurts so much hearing that children were calling 911 begging for help while police were standing outside. I head a story that a mom that was handcuffed convinced the officer to let her free. She then snuck around, jumped a fence and was able to save some children from a window. Let's talk about that courage. 😭😭😭
Pathetic really. Unbelievable this happened. If the cops kids were in there, they’d storm it with SWAT.
Why was the mom handcuffed? O_O
@@Cathee.M. for trying to get the cops to go in as the people could hear shooting, but the cops wouldn't go in but wouldn't let the parents go in, so they they spent their time fighting with the parents rather than do their duty,
So obviously the mom must have told them some home truths about their cowardice
@@Blackpilld Swat nothing, if their kids were there they would have stormed it themselves no hesitation
Did she save anymore than her own two children?
The shooter couldn't have had it easier. ... entered the school in a door that had been recently propped open, then goes on a shooting rampage uninterrupted by law enforcement. Unbelievable.
Fired outside for 12 minutes THEN walked right in an open(!) door....
@@shelleydunkle7867 I'm not saying you're wrong, but you are categorically a conspiracy theorist, given you just theorized about a conspiracy.
You’re not wrong, Jennifer D.
There had been an Honors Assembly that morning, hence the door was still unlocked. The cops who retrieved their own children were selfish cowards; the rest just plain cowards. Cops used to be brave people who wanted to serve others. Nowadays most of them are arrogant control freaks who see the position as an opportunity for power. Their cowardice mixed with ineptitude (and selfishness for some) enabled this tragedy.
The kids who were "saved" by their daddies while the other children were left behind now have to grow up knowing their fathers are cowards. These kids will now have to deal with survivors guilt and whatever relationship remains with their cowardly fathers. This is a type of survivors guilt that is new to school shootings: "I am alive because my daddy let other kids die".
"let's wait, he'll wear himself out eventually"
The police should be ashamed of themselves, they let those kids and teachers die. Heartbreaking and infuriating.
They should be put behind bars. Their negligence and cowardice costed us the most valuable thing as human beings, meanwhile we are supposed to pay for their "work", their training, equipment, salaries and everything. Truly disgusting.
“Ashamed” is not a strong enough word. They should have not applied to be police in the first place.
Whoever that leaded them (the chief) should be locked up.
If he was unable to define how dangerous it was, possibly he should never be placed in such important positions
It was disgusting how they handled it and how they tried to cover it . Gross
they should be fired. Ashamed isnt nearly enough, they went in to get their own children while allowing others to die
Crooked 👮♀️
They're not ashamed, they consider cop lives more valuable than kids and teachers, that shouldn't surprise you.
I never thought I could be interested in these mental health situations, but your analyses have changed my mind. I find your videos fascinating.
The officers that rescued there own children while leaving others in danger should face criminal charges of dereliction of duty. They shouldn't just loose their jobs. They should face criminal penalties because when you take on the role as guardian of your community you should consider all children as your own.
You can't. Unfortunately police officers are not obligated to defend a human life. People need to understand people that being a police officer is basically a job nobody wants to do anymore the training's low the pay is low and the respect is super low. What kind of people do people think that's going to draw in.
@@joshboyfuture9698 stop making excuses for cops, everyone needs to know they’re not your friends, they are part of the state
Agree!!
No offense but if you were in a life or dead situation where you can save either your OWN children or others most likely you would save yours. I agree that these cops were cowards but at that moment the father or mother comes out and you can’t care about anyone else safety
They're job is not to serve and protect, it's to uphold the law at their discretion.
As most members of the military know, cowardice is contageous and often leads to poor decisions. The officers on scene who now know they are not suited for police work should resign. I have noticed a change in law enforcement over the last 30 to 40 years, and it's not a good change. Everyone wants to live a long a fruitful life, but when you sign up for risky dangerous work you need to be willing to engage when necessary. It seems that police these days are quick to fire on just about anyone for little justifiable reason but when confronted with a heavily armed maniac committing murders, some of them seem dumbfounded as to what to do. We have all seen examples of police bravery and compassion, but we've also witnessed gross misconduct. I'm not sure what the solution is. I doubt if it will get any better.
Best comment I've read about this mess
Facts‼️
This👆🏼
Well - writ 🙏
Well said
I'm a teacher, my first year teaching was in a rough school where we went on lockdown multiple times for various reasons.
Every time, I knew that I would lay down my life to protect my students if necessary.
Over a decade later, teachers and students are trained every school year in multiple emergency scenarios including active shooter response.
I know how to secure the building if there is a threat.
Several teachers and I have an unwritten pact that we will take down any active shooter.
I am 42 / F math teacher.
We show up at work every day prepared to sacrifice our lives for our students.
I'm very sad to learn the LEOs who responded to this were not.
Be careful. Those drills tend to eventually go Live. This school had that type of drill a couple of weeks before it went Live.
It’s not their job apparently, it’s their job to arrest and pepper spray parents whose children are being shot
Every school should have had security guards or police. And the gate should have been locked.
School I went to allowed teachers to carry and they had a plan of action they practiced during drills. If you’re school allows it, it’s something that is highly recommended
It's easy to say that, much more difficult in a real life situtation.
I am from Uvalde, Texas. Thank you for covering this.
As a former cop, and one who has entered buildings while being shot at, these cops are cowards and should resign en masse. The community is better off without them. That PD should be required to sew a yellow stripe up the spine of their shirt to signify their cowardice. It just rankles me how they could stand around and shoot the breeze while that monster was in the building. Heads should roll. 1) the incident commander that classified this as a barricaded subject situation. 2) The chief of the Uvalde police. 3) the sheriff of that county. 4) The Uvalde cops on duty standing outside that school. 5) The county deputies standing outside that school. 6) the state troopers standing outside the school.
These cops should resign immediately or be fired. they should lose their pension and have the money sent to the families of murdered children. If you can't save the elementary children, it's just cowardice like you said.
I am an medical professional.
We also go toward incidents, with the best possible efforts to save lives.
My husband and I agreed that had we been there, we would have acted.
I would be willing to bet, the majority of parents and emergency responders would do the same.
Shame on the police handcuffing parents and threatening with tazers instead of saving children.
They were cowards but should not have stopped people willing to risk their own lives to save others.
Totally agree
Well said! Thank you NONE OF THEM HAVE ANY BUSINESS WEARING A BADGE AND POLICE UNIFORM. ALL OF THEM SHOULD RESIGN IMMEDIATELY. ALSO, ALL OF THEM ARE COMPLICIT IN THE MASS MURDER. THEY ACTUALLY ENABLED THE KILLER BY NON ACTION WHEN THEY HAD AN OBLIGATION TO ACT THAT SUPERSEDED THE INCOMPETENT COMMANDER IN CHARGE.
@@melaniescott1039 It's a long story, but basically a gang did a drive by on a bar. I got to the bar first. Man hit at the base of the skull. I tried helping, then EMTs arrived. The gang decided to do a second drive by, with all of us inside. Myself and the EMTs didn't flinch (while everyone else dove for the floor). An EMT told me to get them, and I did. The man died, so the six gang members I arrested went to prison for murder.
I also come from a family with nurses. Nurses protect their patients. Since several doctors nearly killed me by injecting me with things I told them that I'm allergic to, I'm not too crazy about doctors. EMTs, lots of respect, lots.
The fact that the department's story keeps getting backpedalled is truly telling. Not only did they not act out of cowardice, but they can't even own up to it. Like a child caught in a lie that they refuse to own up to.
Reminds me the amber heard trial
Well that's been typical 40 years and more
When this first happened they were saying on the news he had "no signs of mental illness", looks likes they misled us about that too. Though in fairness, if he wasn't in treatment they wouldn't be able to find out until they got to interview people who knew him.
They should be held accountable for their inaction and failure to control a weak ass perpetrator!
@Ken Ward come on, man, Trump is the archetype lying cry baby and you know it. The mayor, chief of police, governor, and leuitenant governor are all birds of a feather.
To enter a career where you are expected to encounter danger, and fail to act when the lives of the most innocent are on the line is the most unforgivable cowardice. If you can’t do the job, at least don’t interfere with those who will.
Police don't require to save people in danger
Exactly, it is not cowardice to stop Border Patrol who arrived at 12:10PM and hold them back for an hour. It is not cowardice. It is not waiting for the tactical team, because they were there already. It was not waiting for body armor or whatever poor excuse, because the tactical team was there with everything needed and ready to go or assist in any way possible.
@@walterrising4276 But they are required to uphold the law i.e. don’t let someone have the time of their lives murdering little kids
@@walterrising4276 true, it's not a lawful obligation, but it is a MORAL obligation. These coward police conveniently ignored the latter
@Jackie McCall
"To enter a career where you are expected to encounter danger"
Even though most police officers don't encounter spree killers during their entire career.
"fail to act when the lives of the most innocent are on the line"
You've confused not doing what you wanted them to do with not doing anything.
"is the most unforgivable cowardice."
Says the armchair general.
"If you can’t do the job, at least don’t interfere with those who will."
The idiots trying to run into the building couldn't do the job either.
Another sad aspect of what happened is that the police involved have shown zero remorse or shame for what happened. The department was more upset about body cam footage that got leaked than their own colossal failure.
To this day, as it was during the shooting, the main thing with these cops is protecting themselves.
Its probably better there arent too many serious investigations of police forces, cause we would hate the results.
I know many do their best, but many cops cover up what ever the really bad cops do, as they would be chased out of their jobs if they didnt toe the line. They can never work as cops again if they become whistleblowers.
Its truly a "gang in blue".
Many cops act brave when they encounter people who commit misdemeanors, but in this case they failed miserably, smh. Rip to those kids, and both teachers, condolences to all the families.
I do wonder if your police were not routinely armed if they would be so 'brave' when attacking law-abiding civilians. Our police in the UK are not routinely armed, we have special units for armed work. But I suppose your insane gun culture makes that impossible.
@@alisonwilson9749 not my culture, I'm a citizen of America yes, but I don't make the laws, nor do I own a gun! You need to check yourself real quick like, and not make dumb ass comments as if it's my fault!
Exactly!!! When I was a kid, we had a local chapter of a renowned outlaw bikie gang in the neighbourhood. Those guys rode their (magnificent) Harleys around the ‘hood at three times the speed limit and the cops turned a blind eye. Instead, they were busy monstering scared 11 year old kids who didn’t have a light as well as a reflector on the back of their bikes. Goddamned yellowbellies!
Cops love to shoot your dog for no reason as well. I was in the Marines, infantry. I was also a teacher. That school had windows, they all do, and I saw the windows in the news video. It is standard procedure to take out a target from two different vantage points. Cops should have gone to the window and shot in some tear gas, then shot at gunmen or the ceiling to distract him and the other cops kick the down down and rush in. Why they didn't do that is beyond me.
Cops are only cops when they counter minorities and it's eight to one. America is a sick and sad place.
There's no words even strong enough for how cowardly those cops were.
What about Abbott who enabled this by reducing so many regulations to satisfy the NRA, and keep the money flowing. Hard to be more corrupt than Abbott.
they were trained to do that by the "association of international police chiefs- a constitutionally illegal group that has police from Russia, China, Arabia, etc they come here and "train the training police= this is why you see so many abuses nowadays.
They sure looked tough sitting on that stage afterwards
@@lorettanericcio-bohlman567 again =trained by an evil international organization to take care of just themselves- we must stop the training from international groups
We have to remember that it is not the job of the police to protect people (Supreme Court, 2016) They were protecting themselves by not exposing themselves to gunfire.
They waited….for a key.
You have got to be kidding me. They don’t wait for a key when they execute no-knock warrants. They don’t wait for a key when there’s “reason to believe” that a crime is being committed. May I suggest that they had an inkling that a crime was in fact, being committed? That they were perhaps simply “in fear of their lives”? Kind of like all the small children frantically dialing 911?
The fact that some officers went in to rescue their own children proves that they were well aware of the nature of the situation at hand.
The much maligned word “woke”, is fitting for the general mood of much of the nation.
I don’t see a single thing wrong with people waking to the nightmare we’ve been living in, and finally stomping on the brakes. Demanding that at long last, the wax museum figures in Congress get off their asses and do their job. I, for one, am pretty sick of paying for them to hang around exchanging stock tips, meeting with lobbyists, getting in sound bites for campaign ads, and taking lovely extended “breaks”, that would have anyone else facing dismissal from their job.
I’m sick of their projection and pivoting, game playing and finger pointing. Please, for Pete’s sake, someone stop playing hot potato with the buck.
Edit: I’ve heard now, that a parent sneaked into the school, and got her kids out. I don’t know what the truth is. It does add to the absurdity of the situation.
That mom was placed in handcuffs, got out of handcuffs, jumped the fence and got her 2 kids. Can't blame her. I agree with all you've said. Truly heartbreaking. Thoughts and prayers are all the congressmen ever offer, no change
So far as cops " waiting for a key" uhmm why not go in the propped open door? Or bust the front door down
It will depend on how often they could hear a gunshot while they waited whether it was a hostage situation or murders were being committed and people were bleeding out. It will depend on how hard the person in charge was having to demand brave officers to stand down on what my opinion is of those officers but I’m quite sure that you would’ve had to shoot me to keep me from going in.
Thank you, Mama Petillo, for voicing the truth in a no nonsense manner. Everyone has a voice and must use it. All the platitudes from politicians is absolutely sickening. Beto O'Rourk stood up to them and his first amendment rights were violated. We're not going away.
Congress needs to get rid of “gun free zones”, allow teachers to arm themselves, get rid of CRT, end touchy feely PC police policies, stand up to the anti gun lobby and left wing media
As career soldier of 22 years I can honestly say that you make good points on the mental state of people who have to make that choice of taking a life knowing that they are human as well. However, when it comes to actions that is expected from them we train are troops to handle a situation like war or clearing a building which in itself requires hours of training. This training is conducted so when and if that situation occurred they automatically revert to muscle memory where their actions come from training and act accordingly.
My analysis from my experience gives a different approach on this matter. When a person chooses to kill his state of mind is set to kill. So, our soldiers are trained to handle a situation such s as clearing or to be blunt to eliminate the target. They don’t retreat even if a member is shot. A member of the assault team usually from the back who radio that a member is down one member of that team will pull the injured member to safety. Yet the team moves forward to accomplish the mission or the intended action of eliminating the target. We have to remove the human aspect of the target and engage said target with the objective to neutralize the shooter. Does this impact the individuals after completing their task? Sure it does. However they reflect on what they have done with a different approach on the situation. The satisfaction they completed the mission objective which is obvious they eliminated the target.
I was trained to think from a different mind set about what I may do I’d put in that situation. In essence I train my troops in the same manner as I was taught just as those before me had been trained and to train their soldiers in the same manner.
I will also mention that when soldiers take a job as becoming a peace officer, they will recognize a perpetrator is in different about what they are doing their approach is changed and in a few situations they can talk deescalate the situation. That in itself should tell you that they don’t want to kill if they don’t have to but if there is no other choice. By that it means if the shooter is doing that then the choice is obvious on what must be done.
I appreciate your view from your experience and express your thoughts about the different behaviors that are imposed on police officers.
I hope that you may find my view helpful.
As a combat engineer I take many views on soldiers and the facilities where such things have happened but that would not be related to your shared thoughts about the actions or in this case the inactions of the officers.
A little girl in the connecting room to where the shooter barricaded himself displayed more courage & bravery than the police. She took the cellphone from her dead teacher’s hand & dialed 911 multiple times asking for help! I believe she called at least 5-7 times! She also had the wherewithal to cover herself in blood from her classmates in order to appear deceased.She also helped muffle the cries of a classmate that was shot in the leg whenever the shooter started coming into her side of the room. This went on for over an hour! This is beyond heartbreaking, and to think there were only 2 days left in the school year.May all these 19 children & 2 teachers that lost their lives so senselessly RIP 🙏 and may all the survivors , their family,& community find the solace they deserve. We need to do better,it seems as though there has been one mass shooting after another.
She reminds me of the two teens at Astroworld who climbed up on stage to top the show to save lives.
I can't find info on this, you should make a video, I really want to know what happened to that girl and those in the room more specifically the timeline. This way it will be clear what the cost of the police mistake was.
@@drmichaelsunsschoolformath I think she survived, thankfully.
Tax dollars wasted on lives that don't have an amount. Why do we keep giving to law enforcement when they have a right not to protect us?
We need to do better? We need to something because these people did NOTHING!
One of the mothers the police handcuffed got out of her handcuffs, jumped the fence and located her children and escaped with them. Shame on the police. I hope the parents file the mother of all lawsuits against the police.
She didn't get out of her handcuffs. She was released from them.
As much as I wish the parents to win a lawsuit against the Uvalde PD, I predict that when that case reaches the Supreme Court it will rule in favor of the police ruling "The police had no duty to protect (those kids)". The SCOTUS has been ruling this consistantly case after case for decades. example cases include but not limited to: Waren V DC, Gonzales V Castle Rock, Lozito V NYC, and even Parkland the SCOTUS ruled in response to the suit regarding the school resource officers standing outside the building during that rampage shooting "The police have no duty to protect those outside their custody".
Good Mom
@@laladoodieincarnate mpomloml mp
These Police officers acted unlike any Cops I know ,they went after the parents but not willing to go in after the Shooter ,this whole situation and killings seemed to be Orchestrated for Political purposes and those 19 babies and 2 teachers were sacrificed!!!
How many of those babies were laying in pain desperately waiting to be saved.
What the police did was unacceptable. Each one needs to be held accountable.
But the saved THEIR kids.
@@cbrashsorensen
I’ve heard this claim, but I can’t find a credible source for verification.
@@richrelaxes1154 Same
I guaranty the Sheriff will NOT be re-elected
@@richrelaxes1154 one of the cops literally says it in a news interview.
Imagine if this were a hospital and there were people dying from bleeding out with enough time to save people, but the doctors refused to do anything because they were scared of blood.
If this psycho was so “poor” how did he manage to purchase a near $2,000 AR, plus an undisclosed 2nd rifle, a pistol and hundreds of rounds of ammo plus dozens of mags??? I haven’t seen anyone address this?
Apparently many of these gun companies that sell online do buy now pay later. So maybe he did monthly payment plan.
@@roachqueen1973 kinda doubt he’d have the credit score to qualify for something like that. He just turned 18
@@emilychristina3172 that wouldn’t fly either, when he took delivery at his FFL, he filled out a 4473 form and the names have to match up. The guns would not be shipped with his name on it if someone else paid for it. My understanding is he bought them locally anyway.
Wondering the same
That's an awesome point. So many good points in this thread.
there's a short clip of one of his classmates talking about him saying that he was not bullied, he emphasized that part, and said that he often was the bully but that his bullying would fail and that that would infuriate him.
That clip seems to have been buried.
That’s the clip you’re taking ab right ? This dude said he wasn’t bullied
Not too surprising...
Sad.
Both can be true. He could have been bullied when he was younger & turned into a bully as he got older or bullied by higher ups in high school & was a bully to the more vulnerable. Either way, calling someone a school shooter is reckless & no good can come from it. No telling what role that played in this.
The teachers put themselves in front of the students to shield them. The cops - trained in active shooter situations - wouldn’t even go in the school to save the kids.
Of course not, they’re not White and thus not worth the risk.
Because the police is only _brave_ when confronting those who they know cannot or can barely fight back.
did you listen to his explanation of why that might b
And yet those cops ha e better insurances, better Social Security, better 401Ks, better unions and definitely better checks than the teachers. The same teachers who basically YEETED themselves towards the gunman.
@@LadyCoyKoi *Theoretically,* cops’ higher salary is because the job is more dangerous, higher burnout, higher rate of injury and death on the job. The cops in Uvalde chose to stay safe and allow others to be in danger, despite having signed up for a job they knew is dangerous.
Your analysis was thoughtful and spoke to the change in culture of law enforcement.
I’ve witnessed 1st hand and also seen on tv officers commanding a suspect for “my safety.”
Their primary goal from training is to go home at the end of their shift.
This is a gut-check for every department & every officer.
Ask yourself “why do I want to be a cop?” If it’s not to someday have the chance to risk your life for the life of a stranger, do anything else.
All anyone can do is pray for courage when it’s needed.
Sadly, I’m afraid the death toll from Uvalde hasn’t ended yet.
Every one of those cops should be fired, lose their pensions, and be charged for assaulting those parents. And, their higher-ranking officials should be fired and charged for lying and trying to cover up their actions. Police training needs to be overhauled, and police or their unions shouldn't be allowed to conduct their own internal investigations on themselves.
The more that comes out about this, the worse it gets on all sides.
Justice Dept in Washington is conducting a review of the local police and their moronic actions.
@@kenvr2287 Good! Somebody needs to.
Right on!
@@kenvr2287 Yeah and the DOJ and FBI never covered anything up ever.
There has been misinformation about what really happened! This guy does not know what happened. He was not there and what he is saying is only his opinion not facts!
No one can accuse you of lacking courage, Dr.Grande. I had no idea about the background or the facts of this tragedy. I agree with you; none of us know how we will react under that kind of situation/pressure, but - damn!! None of those police officers should keep their jobs. I'm sickened and horrified at a whole new level after hearing ALL the facts. Thank you, Dr. Grande, for speaking TRUTH.😪💖
No, they did lack courage. 19 armed officers just sat to watch 20 kids get sprayed with bullets and did NOTHING to stop it. thats the ultimate price of cowardice. Miserable people in my eyes. Theyre shooting unarmed civilians left and right, but what happend when the duck shot back? They ran and hide while ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KIDS were being massacred. And even when they begged for help to save their lives they did nothing. They should be held accountable just the same way they hold us accountable.
@@stonermane621 yeah dude, and you would have single handedly killed all the nazis, you'd stop every mass shooting and every narco drug cartel if given the opportunity... thank god we have people like you to scare the evil away
@@stonermane621 Michele was saying Dr Grande didn’t lack courage, not the police officers. Re read her comment.
@@billaddington831 true, sorry. Anger really got me here.
@@stonermane621 I guess the silver lining here is that they don’t sell grenades at the gun store. Thats 27 school shootings this year and counting….
I can’t believe the police didn’t save the children and handcuffed and pepper sprayed upset parents instead, but made sure to save their own children. They should be sued! Maybe they’re not soldiers and no one really wants to do that job, but if they don’t want to actually do the job they shouldn’t be allowed to just ignore that a classroom of little kids is being murdered. And this was a huge event that will be in history books and that the entire world is now aware of. This is almost crossing the line of acting like criminals instead of police. It certainly wasn’t a heroic act. I guess it was good of them to decide to do something after 2 dozen people had been killed an hour after the shooting started, but it sure took a lot to motivate them into action. Every one of them should be fired, and it does seem like they deserve some kind of jail time. It’s similar to nurse standing there and watching 20 people in their care die and not even trying to do anything to help them.
Absolutely, great comparison with Nurses.
Nurse doesn't have flying bullets speeding towards them
Yeah, the pigs just literally conveyed to future school-shooters that they aren't gonna do shit once they arrive. Great job, pigs!
@@CalledHigher-ib8ce No excuse they should not have gone into law enforcement everyone knows THAT is a possibility.
I am pro-police. Because of that I realize they MUST be held accountable if they want the public trust and respect. Many, if not all of these cops should be jailed for decades at the minimum. This is despicable behavior.
This video should be played in every Police Academy in the country. Very well done.
Just when I think it couldn't get any worse I find out a new, even more horrifying, detail. Cops on the scene went into the school to save their own children but left the rest behind?!?! I cannot comprehend any of this.
unfortunately, just like everything else in life.
Steve McCraw who held the press conference this morning said that wasn’t true but it’s possible he could be lying
@@DoubleDash28 Of course he’s lying lmao. Cops and cop supporters lie ALL the time because they can and are above the law. Sick of the lack of accountability and consequences handed to cops, it’s sickening. The budget of this town in questions is about 10 Million, and 4 Million goes to their police force. 40% of the cities budget belongs to the police
@@DoubleDash28 OF COURSE HE IS LYING. Hes not comming out here and tell us with a straight face "Yeah, I saved my child but left yours to die in pain and fear while begging for their lives" he already changed the story a dozen times
@@DoubleDash28 the police officer was on the news he was at the barbershop when his wife texted him an active shooter was at the school their daughter went to the police officer said he got a rifle from the barbershop owner went directly to the school to get his daughter several police officers at the school went in with him to get his daughter while other parents were blocked from getting their children..😡
They went in and got their own kids while stopping others? That’s beyond cowardice.
criminal
Cops make to much money.
Makes them fearful
Evil
The Uvalde police officers were not cowards, they were paid to do THIS by God knows who.
@@CavaleiroDasTrevas-0615 I can see how you would think this. The cops were so terribly incompetent, taking zero action to save those kids that it makes you explore conspiracies.
Watching the officers waste precious time manhandling moms and dads while this creep was actively firing upon children inside was pretty disappointing and infuriating IMO. Like they're just standing there with their bits in the wind; waiting around for a cavalry when they WERE these kids' only cavalry. Its just a hard one to swallow. Can't imagine what these families must feel 💔
I can't imagine what the parents must have been feeling waiting outside. So sad 😔
Probably these officers didn't want their new haircut to be ruin.
The low income community said police responded to calls in general very slowly . I think the Latinos kids does not give them the needs to urgently save lives
One of them was scrolling on their phone on video omg 😡🤬🤬🤬😔😞
What stands out to me is the difference between these cops and cops in the past. There's plenty of cases through the years of cops risking their lives without hesitation to stop an active shooter. Not so much nowadays.
The other thing is, it happened in Texas, where cops swagger about like they're John freakin' Wayne. I think that specifically for Texas, that myth just died and invoking it from now on will only bring laughter and ridicule, which is probably healthy.
Thank you Dr Todd for being very direct with your thoughts and not just rambling. Your points are clear, concise and non-blaming. It would be interesting to review all these mass shootings and identify common denominators. This may help someone non-professional to report a concern of a threat. IDK but parents need to wake up!
Thanks for covering this and bringing awareness.
Can you touch on this type of behavioral disorders, from the police who got their kids, to the gun man and the people he encountered (bullies, old friends, and friends who received the gun pictures and knew his plans but didn't act)
Thank you Psych2Go for all you do to!
This guy is a total charlatan, how could you support him?
I live close to Uvalde and it's apparent he didn't bother to do research and is spreading disinformation. He also deletes comments.
Why don't they ever ask the gun seller if he asked this purchaser his intentions? Who was it that sold him the guns?
Love your channel ❤
This is the horror: Police arrived in 3 minutes and listened to the whole thing.
100%
Ugh. Brutal comment. Makes me sick.
Year poor guys!!
He was still shooting yet there was shooting in the auditorium also. My little cousins went there....
I hope they never get a good rest again. Should be national disgraces.
*His classmate stated that he wanted everyone to know he was NOT bullied, that he used to kill animals, would pick on kids and get angry if he didn't get a reaction and go to the park to pick fights*
Thanks. They always like to make these sadists out as the victims.
We all know they want to save face
@gd Did they hunt him down through the school with rifles? No? The spare us the excuses.
Another classmate said he came to school and told them he cut his own face. They didn’t come from a cat.
Some people love evil.
very bold and true description of the majority of the police. Also one expression shouldn t be left outside the description... paralyzed cowards without any vocation for their profession and any understanding of their mission and, ultimately, no respect for human lives...their own children
As a Marine, the training the Dr. talks about “Solider vs Cops” is 100 percent true. When I graduated boot camp I sincerely welcomed the chance to die for my Country. I carried that sentiment for years.
Thank you for your service.
As a Army soldier is inculcated on our army values Selfless service & Personal courage.
Reading your comment is giving me goosebumps.
One of mine and my husband's best friends is a retired marine. He told us, your never an ex-marine, you're a Marine for life. You really do have to be one of those rare persons who automatically put yourself in danger for others. My Aunt is also a retired marine, and it really is a family.
Deeply meaningful comment. Thank you very much for that sentiment and belief..
What a shame that the gunman wasn’t immediately confronted. It’s almost hard to believe the officers were waiting out in the hall while the children themselves were calling for help. What a tragedy.
It's very sad, but now we know what government protection looks like.
It's like getting a number in the DMV, for the next window.
No, that is not hard to believe. That is why people have been protesting against the police loudly for a few years now. Not only do they murder innocent civilians, but they are spineless psychopathic and dim witted cowards that can't even do the job they are tasked with.
Right, grown men using small children as a shield. Nausiating. When the cops put themselves first and can't protect the kids even.... They are pretty useless.
he shouldnt of had the guns in the first place thats the tragedy
@Gayle Sharp
"What a shame that the gunman wasn’t immediately confronted."
3 police officers did that and had to retreat because they were outgunned.
"It’s almost hard to believe the officers were waiting out in the hall while the children themselves were calling for help."
Almost like the gunman had either stopped shooting them or they were in a safe location.
I can’t believe they’re calling themselves a SWAT team while waiting for a key
Pretty sure a couple of those parents that were waiting for them to get the key could/would have happily assisted in breaching the door.
If it were a civilian home, they would have broken the door and windows to get inside.
If that was their own kid, they possibly could break it with their bare hand even .
It’s disgusting how they handled the whole situation resulting to many kids loosing their lives
@@Thang4321 hell I know people that would have done it just to help out not knowing who was in that classroom… because they would rather see something done than hurry up and wait
You would think they'd have known the job was dangerous whe they took it.
Hands down no question they’re cowards. They are part responsible for the deaths of 21 people. Being confronted with a shooter is not all that intense. These are trained officers. No orders or anything should have stopped them. Idc if you’re alone and unarmed. You run in and do what you can
But to handcuff and pepper spray parents who were willing to confront the shooter -- forcing them to listen to their children being slaughtered. That is cowardice approaching depravity, if not aiding and abetting murder.
Leave aside dereliction of duty, impersonating law enforcement, child endangerment...
A lifetime of unending shame seems too light a reward.
And this comment needs more likes….
"dereliction of duty , impersonating law enforcement ,child endangerment" .
Beautifully put. Spot on .
Right???? They were allowed to go and get their kids!! They were willing to risk their lives for their kids and those officer stopped them!! HORRIFYING!
I say arrest all of them who didn’t act and put them on trial.
*It was not a "tactical team" it was an off-duty Customs and Border Protection agent from an elite tactical unit that had the balls to go in and take out that MONSTER. The cowardice of every other officer is SHAMEFUL and I'd argue more horrifying than the shooters actions, especially knowing they did go in and selfishly rescured their own kids and left the rest to perish.... SHAME TO THOSE PIGS
Go figure, someone who does a truly dangerous job got the job done…
Because the coward "all hat no cowboy" Texas chump police force who can't get it right when it matters.
The customs office is located across the street from the school according to a reporter who was on scene after the shooting. According to the latest report they arrived on scene and waited with the rest of the police for 30 minutes before deciding to disobey the police chiefs order and enter the classroom and shoot the 18 year old shooter.
Their names and photos should be released to the public. 😡
FOR SHAME INDEED .
Imagine being handcuffed while your child is in danger that close to you. Those parents will never recover.
If the parents showed up with guns the cops probably would've shot all the parents while their kids were inside being murdered like sitting ducks
I would have lost it. God be with them
I hear in the old days that police were elected by the people. It brought them a higher level of honor giving them more obligation to protect and a bigger push towards bravery. Maybe we should bring this back.
Maybe all cops need to be paid more and must have a bachelor's in sociology, psychology, and serve at least 4 years in the military. We should up the ante!
@Spalien Acecraft " Its time for the adults to take back control of every crucial aspect of society " perfectly said
I was shocked and sickened to see footage of all those heavily armed cops just standing around and targeting the parents. What a total disgrace. These cops were the full definition of what a coward is.
It's strange that they're usually full of machismo/bravado, sometimes mixed with outright hostility when dealing with (harassing and fining) innocent motorists during traffic stops.
@@Danny-hj2qg amen
Cowardice or worst, was it done on purpose?
They ALL should be FIRED!
The videos from parents and private citizens revealed law enforcement Officers with long guns and body armour, acting like parking lot attendants an holding back the parents, who called on them to go in and save their children. The husband of one of the Teachers who was killed, had received a text from his wife advising there was an active shooter at the school. He arrived on scene, and was held back from helping. CNN also showed the Incident Commander, Arredondo, shaking hands with other Officers before going into his Uvalde Office. He showed NO remorse or regret. Apparently despite saying the ceremony was cancelled, the Town still swore him in to a position on the Town Council. The pact of silence and self-preservation and the Blue line..
Some cops never fail to pull people over to give people tickets, arrest the wrong people for "looking suspicious," shooting dogs for barking at them, or dark-skinned people for arguing with them...
But hesitate to help children in a school shooting. Something needs to change in their training.
It is worse than, Hesitate- it was an hour and twenty minutes
Ikr
That's because most cops are no different from the shooter,
So many questions about why the police behaved the way they did. Couldn’t they and the parent’s hear the gun shots? Didn’t they know the shooter was actively shorting? Not barricaded in the school? I’m certain the parents could hear. They thing they did? Was treat the parent’s as if they were wrong for wanting to save their children. Why? Why did they treat that parent’s so harshly for wanting to go into the school to get their children? They just stood around doing nothing. It was border patrol officers who stopped the shooter. So much of this horrific story doesn’t make sense. I doubt they will receive much respect after this. They should all quit.
@@SwampmasterZ Exactly.
The fact police detained parents who wanted to go in & do the job **they** were too chicken shit to do themselves… yet still went in to save their own kids… is unfathomable.
May they reap what they have sown.
They need to be held accountable!
Could not agree MORE .
Grown ass men who are supposed to be pros....are scared of an 18 yr old.
I know hell isn't real. There is no god, but if there is one thing I wish for in this lifetime, is that I sincerely hope that there is a great suffering waiting for them somewhere, when they finally die.
@@xollyxolly3234 true
This guy is excellent. I really learned a lot from his videos.
The police response was disgraceful. The Dawson College incident in Montreal where two nearby officers just ran in with their side arms, not waiting for anyone, and pinned down the assailant has been commonly determined to be the model for action.
Exactly. In the recent shooting at Oxford High, the Oakland County, Michigan, Sheriff officers marched straight in and captured the murderous punk, with no hesitation.
Sure...initiative and courage
Solve ambiguous, complex problems given little to no concrete information
That used to be the model for policing
But now...you don't do anything until you've been authorized and have reviewed the policy and procedure manual
Perhaps solicited an independent legal opinion
Otherwise...you are likely to loose your house paying the legal fees to stay out of jail
Me...I retired
Because the only way to win...is not to play
Cowards one and all. When children's lives are at stake real hero's don't hesitate.
There’s an active shooter protocol here, they’re supposed to be trained for it. Officers move toward the target, if the shooter is firing at the police, he’s not shooting at the children. There were windows in the classroom. There’s no reason at all they couldn’t have drawn his attention and had the police enter the room. The children were all hiding, he was walking around in the classrooms, could they have seen him through those windows?
@@notlikely4468 there is an active shooter protocol. Police are trained to move toward the target, as quickly as possibly. In an active shooter situation you don’t have to ask for permission or anything else. You move toward the target, if you draw his fire, he’s not shooting at the children. There are police, retired police around the country saying what happened here is a prime example of exactly what should not happen in an active shooter situation.
If you as a Police Officer leave children to bet slaughtered by a deranged shooter. Then you had no right to wear a badge at all.
.....but some of the police made the decision to save they own children and leave others kids in harm's way. So shameful.
Every officer who blocked parents from entering should be charged with aiding and abetting mass murder.
Agree but 2 weeks from now cowardly police on Uvalde police force will be forgotten.
ABSOLUTELY! These cowardly jackasses need to go, NOW!!!
@Wesley NRA should be charged with aiding and abetting mass murder
@@vflytrap7158 You’re waaay out of line.... Sleepy Joe and those who actually voted for him are responsible for the “gun free zone” where criminals can do their deeds. You libs are also responsible for the cops being so touchy feely now due to your BLM terrorists.
I agree. And we shouldn't let this be forgotten.
Just as students who survived the Florida school mass $hooting, we need to make certain this stays a topic that remains at the foreground.
How many more innocent people need to die before something changes? How many more defenseless children will be targeted, and cowardly cops ignore their pleas for help?
And along with the NRA, who wouldn't consider postponing, every politician who couldn't care less, and still attended the convention, it needs to be their political sui¢ude. Only souless, heartless bast*rds would continue on, celebrating their "guπs are great" club within days of a mass casualty as a result of such guπs.
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
His mom argued that he isn’t a monster. That alone was enough for me to understand how this could have happened.
He's a monster. But most moms can't bear to acknowledge that their kid's a monster
When she said “ don’t judge him”. I felt sick could you image how the families feel hearing this.
@@margaretlumley1648 my mum definitely could, if I was to do something that swayed her opinion that way. I think there are others too.
Well said, yeah. That sounds like a sad window into the kind of dysfunctional world this kid was clearly knee-deep in.
When you kill 19 children in cold blood, even mom has to admit you are a monster. It's self-evident.
*was
He *WAS* a monster. Shithead Salvador isn't doing anything monstrous anymore because he is currently 40°F in a fridge and serving as food for the bacteria in his guts. Momma sounds like she's not good at handling cognitive dissonance.
Well said. I’m heartbroken. Especially for the family that tried to act and were pepper sprayed, then handcuffed. Shameful 😔
THOSE COPS NEED TO BE FRED AND PUT INTO PRISON.
😭💔
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Children in schools are taught how to react if a shooter enters the building, yet the police apparently has no training on how to deal with these situations. Unlike the children, the police have protective gear, their own firearms, and they are assumed trained professionals. Self-preservation is the core value of any living organism, yes, but protecting the population, and children especially, should be the core value of any police officer.
Have u been watching news ? Cops will never risk their lives to help . They will beat down an elderely person and charge them wit resisting arrest though
They were trained in active shooter situations. They just refused to act because their commanding officer stated the suspect was contained in a specific classroom (which apparently stops categorizing the incident as an active shooter incident). So they waited for the SWAT team to intervene instead of acting. To the police officers, containing him to that classroom was action enough to stand down. The problem is, he was stuck there with dozens of people and was willing to shoot them. The officers decided it was OK to risk the few vs exposing the entire school.
I could understand that logic if the shooter was stuck in a closet but he locked himself up in a room full of innocent people on his own. The police didn't contain him anywhere. There's really no way to see this response in a positive way from any angle. The had school staff unlock the room for them to gain access which is insane!
You said this so well! Exactly. As humans we all should have self preservation but when it comes to babies I do not care I will put my life on the line to save my own and someone else’s in a situation like that. The teachers were more brave than those officers, I read that a teacher actually used herself as a shield for a student :(
You mean children in *American* schools are taught
What's truly tragic is that kid was 18. Think about that for a second, he was just in school and went through those drills. The sad sad reality is we are unknowingly training the next generation of shooters on where people hide thus rendering the training pointless.
Such a good analysis, thanks Dr. Grande. So well spoken and choice of language was so well done.
I can’t imagine the helpless rage those parents must have felt seeing some officers going in to save their own children while other officers tazed the parents that tried to do the same….
Those cops must have believed they were doing the parents a favor by stopping them from going in the building. Hey, we saved your lives and you don't thank us for doing our duty?
@@goneprivate2714 How’s the boot taste?
It makes me furious
It was awful , there is a video of the parents crying and yelling . So sad
@@ApparationsOfGloom I don’t think you understand the comment you replied to. From reading it I don’t think the commentor was saying what they did was right. But how they were justifying it to themselves. I think you need to relax and stop trying to be an edgelord.
The fact that not even 1 out of 19 took action implies to me that there is a cowardly culture in that Police force. The shooter may well have tortured the children like he did the animals, slowly killing one at a time. I think school floor plans should be available to police at a moments notice, like on a police app or something.
There must have been some windows in these classrooms, why didn't they surround the shooter and cover the door and any windows. That approach may have distracted the shooter from focusing on the children.
There were more than 100 police there for crowd control as the parents stood outside waiting for their children.
Omg that's genius!!
Or society can try nip things at the bud by paying attention to kids growing up in their communities. The parents of this young man need to be confronted. The grandmother must have had some knowledge well before this all happened and could have got the kid some help. There must have been clues he was a ticking timebomb. Blaming the cops, arming them with data, arming teachers is all very well but it's cheaper and easier to simply pay attention to your kids.
Everything about U.S. police is rooted in cowardice. Every second of a cop's day is rooted in fear and they are under no legal obligation to protect anyone. The myth of protect and serve clashes with the reality of "we protect ourselves and our own." But it will be interesting to see if the Uvalde PD gets specifically thrown under the bus when most cops would've done exactly the same, even when hearing rounds being fired into schoolchildren.
I'm struck by the contrast in the behaviour of the police in this case, with the actions of two teachers in the UK in 1994. An armed man had entered their school, and held a class of twelve- and thirteen-year-olds hostage. After another teacher raised the alarm, the two male teachers-including the deputy head-raced to the classroom and looked through the glass door, to see the intruder attacking the children with a knife. Believing that the man also had a gun, the two teachers didn't hesitate: they stormed the classroom, and overpowered the attacker. Tragically, one girl died, and two others were seriously wounded. However, I believe that those two brave men saved the lives of several children that day.
I'd personally known that deputy head teacher. In 1981, he was my science teacher. I recall him as level-headed, jokey, and had a good relationship with his pupils.
I don't know where he is these days, but I hope he's enjoying the peaceful retirement he deserves.
Thank you for this story - don’t see such courage much now a days. Unfortunately the gun lobby would use this as propaganda. No gun involved they’ll say. And, “see if that teacher had a gun he could have saved the little girl”. Just another excuse for them to do nothing except offer empty platitudes like “thoughts and prayers”
💙🤎🙏💙🤎♥️ Love this thank u
At Virginia Tech, a cadet tried to storm that maniac Cho and was shot dead. A knife is a big difference between 2 semi automatic high powered rifles. I don't mean to belittle the heroism but you cannot compare 2 completely different incidents just like you cannot mix oil and water.
What happened here is beyond tragic. Unbelievable mistakes were made. Actions necessary to save lives were not taken. I hope heads roll on this one.
@@dvrdown1981 (1) The intruder had an imitation firearm. (2) The teachers believed he had a real firearm, but entered anyway. (3) The fact that the killer didn't have access to a real gun is evidence that gun control can at least limit the damage.
@@gregofthedump
Faulty logic. Doesn't prove anything. I would rethink my position...
You have made an excellent presentation here, thank you for your professional insights. A mistaken notion is that the shooter killed 19 students and 2 teachers. The reality is. he certainly shot them, but how many bled out over the hour that ticked past while police dithered in the hall? That portion should be chalked up to the police inaction. Police are fond of referring to their employers, the public, as civilians; what then are the police? If they are under the illusion, they are military grade then they should be brought up on UCMJ article 99, ‘misbehavior before the enemy’. If police had made a timely entry a significant number of wounded would have received medical care and likely lived. An impartial corner should make that determination and the probable loss of lives laid at the doorstep of those police and their departments. There were so many things they could or should have been done. Even throwing stones at/ through the window. My choice would be drive a front end loader with a man in the bucket, [or the police SWAT armored vehicle] up to the windows, sharp shooters or not so sharp shooters could provide covering fire if the shooter made himself a target by appearing at the window. This would open two fronts, assault at the class room door(s) and attack at window(s). What is the shooter going to do? Get angry and shoot someone? He is already doing that, at his discretion / leisure thanks to no notable actions against him.
I am for the Uvalde families injured and uninjured alike, making determination of the future of the persons in authority involved, aka a jury of ones peers.
GOOD PLAN. | Too bad, a loser was in charge; all those dead children for nought.
Wait, so the parents arrived at the site of a massacre where police weren't doing anything and when they demanded that police actually do their jobs and save their children, they were pepper sprayed and handcuffed? What were the police doing? Having a bloody tea party while they heard shots being fired and terrified children screaming and dying?
This is such a heartbreaking tragedy. I remember being the age these children were and the only thing that I was worried about was trying to sneak my way into the school library on days that weren't my library day to convince the school librarian to let me take out more books. No child should find themselves in a situation where their school... their place of sanctuary and learning... becomes a literal war zone where they are the targets.
There's a sheriff that I watch sometimes (for some reason he's always on my TH-cam recommendations even though I am not an American) who said it the best. What this police department did in terms of responding to this school shooting is unacceptable. I wonder if they were trained to deal with something like a mass shooter? I hope that changes are made to ensure that every police agency in the United States (and the world) are trained to prevent this tragedy from happening. Children should not be dying due to school shootings.
Police aren’t gona risk their lives for civilians . They will beat down an elderely person or minority or a female though
Yes the police were trained with active shooter drills. Actually, they trained for an active shooter inside that very same school. Tragic all around.
In their white brains, it was not worth saving latinos.
Exactly! Aren't police officers usually wearing kevlar vests underneath their shirts? The children certainly weren't wearing one and they were the ones the gun was aimed at. Of course, although wearing protective gear, the police were afraid to try and go in and save children's lives. Shame shame! Americans need to clean up their act and control of guns.
I know.that sheriff!!! Grady, Polk county!!😆 I'm from England and always watch him!! He's fantastic!!! McMaddening these cops aren't worth a toe on his foot!!!!
Veteran here. You’re dead on about the veteran’s mindset. I had to quickly accept that my life doesn’t matter in order to get through deployments.
I know there are a half dozen ways to open a locked door, and a shotgun makes the process a breeze. They had no reason to wait for keys.
Maybe we ask selflessness from cops. Maybe that’s too tall an order, but even so, those officers directly prevented anyone brave enough from going in, by force. I have nothing but disdain for their behavior. You’re kinder than I have managed to be.
Thank you for your service 👍
It’s unfortunate to learn that the door wasn’t even locked
9:42 That was exactly my mindset through 7 combat deployments in Afghanistan and Iraq. Accepting that it was inevitable freed me from all the stress of death and allowed me to use the fear and adrenaline as tools to boost performance during each firefight/engagement. The problem with doing that for so long was when death never came and I retired I realized I had so anticipated dying that I didn't know what to do with the life I believed I would never get to live. I still don't know. I feel like I'm in a world I don't belong in.
Edit: I put these thoughts to paper so to speak because his statement startled me. It almost felt like I was called out in way and so I felt compelled speak. Not just for someone's else's benefit but for my own. It's easy to dismiss your own thoughts and pack them away but to say it aloud at least gives me the chance to face it, to give it form and do something about it. Im surprised it received any attention at all or resonated with any of you. I don't want to detract or take attention away from the true purpose of this video which is a much more pressing issue than my own self realization. I thank you all for your comments and support and wish everyone of you the best in all your struggles in life.
Edit 2: Fear is the most human response to combat which is why tough, repetitive and realistic training is so important for soldiers, particularly combat arms soldiers. The repetition is there to build muscle memory so when that fear and adrenaline surge through your system your body knows what to do without the need for deliberate decision making. The actions and reactions need to be second nature because time is of the essence. In the case of these officers their clear lack of training resulted in fear causing them to not know what to do, or even how to do it. I can only speculate but I think they never put any real effort into any training they received for this type of situation due to complacency. They believed it would never be something that would happen in their small town so they hand waved the training and moved on to whatever they believed would be a better use of their time. Again, this is just my assessment based on my experience as a US infantryman. I'm sure there is more to it as these kinds of things are generally a chain of failures over a period of time culminating in a event where these failures align and a tragedy unfolds.
Your description helps me understand what I’ve gone through with an often fatal form of cancer....accepting the certainty of death helps me but it is also very confusing at times....thank you.
Thanks for sharing this! It makes sense 🙏❤️
@Sally Foraker
Hope your health journey is as painless and tranquil as is reasonably possible, given your diagnosis.
The Taliban are still laughing at you. ALI DON'T SURF.
I love the freedom that we have in Canada and the United States. I love and appreciate both you and my grandfather for defending democracy and the Constituition. It has been shit on quite a bit in the last 6 years. I am a conservative and a constitutional scholar thank you for risking your life for me.
I think what produces courage is anger toward the threat and empathy for the potential victim. That was what drove me to run toward danger when a man was being attacked without thinking much about my own wellbeing. I felt empathy for him, like a jolt in the chest, when he screamed for help as if he thought he was being murdered, and anger at the attackers, anger at the injustice of their actions. I immediately began to sprint toward the sound of his voice, and fought off the attackers, one of which managed to graze my chin with a blow that took off a little skin. They had him down on the ground, and where kicking him hard, which is potentially lethal.
One teen who knew Ramos growing up in Uvalde has come forward and said Ramos was NOT bullied, but rather he was a bully who became incensed when his targets didn't become sufficiently upset when he sought to intimidate/harm. The effects of bullying can be terrible, I know, but I think we have it in our collective mindset that all young shooters were bullied, giving them an excuse, and that's simply not the case.
Killing and torturing animals as a child was a Huge Red Flag and he needed psychiatric intervention, treatment and probably commitment to an institution. He should not have been in a regular school environment endangering innocent children and teachers.
Was there ever a School intervention for psychiatric assessment ? Being Texas perhaps killing animals is an acceptable form of entertainment.
I heard that he was actually the bully as well. I am born and raised in Texas and can say with 100% certainty killing animals for entertainment is never acceptable. Unfortunately, there are people in this world, not just in Texas, that hunt for sport. Clearly the shooter was a very disturbed person who needed closer supervision.
You have hit the nail with your head. All the officers should be fired, including the chief. It was Border Patrol officers who resolved the situation almost as soon as they got there. Incidentally, the dozens of officers who were standing around will never consider their own fault.
They should be fired, arrested, and charged with accessory to murder or some other charges. It’s unbelievable
@@hippiespeak I agree
The Border patrol stood around with the rest for 40 minutes (the time line is on CNN). The Border patrol officer chose his words very carefully. They went in as soon as "I" got here was what he meant but tried to cover up.
I cannot believe they would be so hollow as to need to be fired. How can they not be begging for forgiveness?
They won't call themselves cowards, which they clearly were in this case. They'll probably say they were "just doing their job". Disgusting. >:P
I can't imagine the abject terror of the kids trapped in that room with their dead classmates and teachers and a lunatic with a machine gun for OVER AN HOUR while they begged for help from 911. My stomach hurts just imagining it.
Another commonality that most of these mass murderers have is their torture of animals. Anyone who abuses animals should be put on an immediate watch list.
And while their parents faught the police to intervene...my stomach hurts too
He didn’t have a machine gun. Educate yourself, it will really help your future.
He was not firing a “machine gun”. I got to use machine guns in the Army. By definition, a “machine gun” is a weapon which is only capable of firing as a fully automatic. An example of this would be the M60 which Stallone fires in Rambo. What he had was two AR-15s. These are known as sporter rifles.
Not really, I remember when I was a kid I used to hammer stray cats to trees and light them on fire but I eventually got bored and grew out of it, abusing animals isn’t really related with mass shootings
Yes.
Well spoken and reviewed. Thank you for your insight. I've always believed much of your analysis applied universally to many poor interactions with, behaviors of some officers. Some of them seem to defer to the "afraid for my life" statement/rationale for their poor decisions. I've always expressed my concern and frustration with this inherent fear they operate in. Fear causes people to make poor decisions, and increases the likelihood inappropriate aggressive behaviors. Hence, shootings of unarmed persons. This was a complete tragedy. Ramos' behavior and murderous act is the catalyst of it all. Yet, the inaction and seemingly cowardice of the officers is inexcusable.😢