"You're asking for tea right after fleeing for your life?" Now that's the rational Kadoc I know and lo-- "...I finished the rest of the cheese cookies." Nevermind.
@@ananda9133 That's because they made it a movie/OVA/whatever. If they make it an anime adaptation like Babylon, they'll absolutely pull it off. It's practically the same thing as Babylon except it's servants and not dingir/soldiers. We know they can absolutely pull off siege-type combat well.
Goredolf has had to dodge Godjuna's death beams and now he has to race against ORT, even if they don't blame him for Chaldeas the clock tower gonna have an eye on him from now on, too powerful😅 That aside, I'm glad that even now he's more concerned about the well-being of Fujimaru, our director is really part of the family
@@dlarenceparks2211 It basically replaces the texture of the Earth with ORT’s native biome. A beautiful, hellish land of crystals completely hostile to Earth’s lifeforms. Think of the Earth as a painting and ORT painting its own picture over it. In simpler terms, it is replacing the fabric of Earth’s reality with its own.
9:39 Yup, Camazotz may have turned KP, Eresh, Beni against us as alters at first but he really helped us out a lot by giving us the lost history of his people and the underworld borders that will allow Chaldea's Heroic Spirit army to take on ORT, allowing us to finish what he started so long ago.
Well… Ereshkigal willingly became an alter on her own accord. Rather than being forced like Beni-Enma or King Protea, she agreed to become an Alter, even though she is a Watcher of the Underworld, she is still Chaldea’s Summoned Servant, so she used this chance to reap up more power to be of more use. If she didn’t become an Alter, then she wouldn’t have been able to create Gugalanna that Ishtar stole from Ishtar-Rin. She betrayed what she desired, to be of more use to Chaldea
I've been there, ORT. When you wake up but you're still half asleep and hate all life form in the area around you until the neural system initialized properly, I don't try to rewrite reality after that though😓
Seeing ORT calling an entire forest of Fantasy Trees embodies everything I love about ORT and the Types. When something is revealed about them, the reaction is never " scary" or " how is this possible?" It's always "WHAT THE F*CK!!! NO FREAKING WAY!!!. Bless Nasu and his twisted inspiration.
Ok seryously Kadoc and Goredolf just racing in, hitting a bunch of seeds, and pretty much telling us get in loser we are saving the world is not what I ever expected qhen I started playing this game, It's way better.
And now for the Lostbelt to get its namesake. It truly is a ‘Sea of Trees’. A sea of fantasy trees. To think this is just an imitation of Crystal Valley though, because ORT doesn’t have its core, so not as dangerous, as hard as that is to believe.
Even If its not dangerous a coreless ORT was still a threat, and we’re lucky Its coreless unlike the real one In PHH whom probably lazing around like a lazy bum
Probably depends. ORT is on Earth coz Gaia (Earth itself) decides in the future that Humanity destroyed it too much and it's her final dying wish send to all other planets to destroy Humanity. If we don't rip every planet we land upon, Ultimate Ones will not active. PROBABLY, MAYBE.
Mankind can colonize other worlds if they have the science to fight against that Ultimate One. One of the main problem of why it's so damn hard for modern humans and NOTE future generation having a hard time dealing this things is because they don't fundamentally understand what they are. It is said that if human knowledge have reach at the level where the namesake impossible can be replicated. Then it's possible for mankind to conquer the stars. There's a reason why Mystery is dying on Earth as science is tethering going beyond that it's possible for mankind to go beyond without the need of Magic.
Human technology can probably eventualy grow powerful enough to defeat ultimate ones, i mean you have chaos a Dyson Sphere that is probably the most powerful entity in the entire nasuverse, it took a god sacrificing itself just to close the whole in reality were it was peaking at our world
The fact that Tezcatlipoca's time manipulation is so powerful that it was able to bring a *possible future variant of ORT* is absolutely insane. Tezca definitely deserves his status as a Grand Servant. Although it does make me wonder, could Aoko also perform a time manipulation feat as powerful as this one?
yup, the thing is that his ability is not time manipulation but probability manipulation itself. he can change stuff present in the world according to his will but can't actually a thing which doesn't present in the world. For example it can change things like a kingdom is victorious and then get defeated to kingdom is defeated then get victorious and so on. his power is literally like fifth magic.
first fifth magic is not time manipulation, we still don't know what is the true power of fifth magic. but yeah fifth magic can do something like that. it can even do something like what goetia is going to do with energy he collected to made this world new.
It's a shame that Tezcatlipoca has been nerfed due to being in a human vessel. Imagine if Tezca *casually* walked inside Olympus, saw a possible future of ORT devouring Olympus and it's Fantasy Tree, and just used his Noble Phantasm to "summon" that ORT right behind Lostbelt Zeus. Imagine the shock in Lostbelt Zeus' face as he is slowly approuched by the giant enemy spider.
@@ollin-tonatiuh6418 well yeah, you are right. but i even think there is a possibility that full powered tezca can fight zues with his power alone like how romulus helped chaldea. though him not being in his home world can weaken his authority over others.
Ritsuka: "Where's ORT?" Ritsuka: "Mash, why do I ask dumb things like that?" Mash: "I don't freaking well know, senpai, WHY *DO* YOU ASK DUMB THINGS LIKE --"
@10:54 TRIMEGISTUS II, *why* use the _Mathematician's Answer_ out of all the possible replies?! Not even a _probability assessment_ (which we'd *immediately* plan on disproving), but a *_one-word answer_* ?!
Look it's not capable of giving us a number small enough to represent our odds of winning. Because the number is a rounding error that rounds to zero. aka only by doing the math wrong can it give us a yes, and it knows it's doing the math wrong, so it isn't going to show us the math.
I might be the only one disappointed with this Lostbelt. I mean it would have been so much awesome if we were to face an enemy who was connected to story than some random alien from outside. Also, imagine every Lostbelt Kings coming to help Chaldea for final fight, like Solomon Arc, would have been much cooler.
Eh, ORT has been hinted since a long while ago, and it IS a being that's part of the Nasuverse and the Lostbelt's history. Just because it ain't a fanservice fest doesn't really makes it bad
Problem with recruiting the other LB kings is: 1) Ivan the Terrible died after losing to both Chaldea and Anastasia 2) Scathach-Skadi's fate within the LB is unknown, though she drained most of her strength helping us fight Surtr-Fenrir 3) Qin Shi Huang would rather be with his people 4) "God of Destruction" Arjuna was slain by "Super Saiyan God" Karna 5) Zeus was slain by Mash using Black Barrel 6) Morgan was slain by her own people after whooping Chaldea's collective ass soundly (BTW, thumbs up if you can guess both major references)
This ORT is nothing but a super nerfted version. It lacked it's heart, and is not even to the standarts of the real ORT that is still asleep in PHH timeline.
This battle reminded me of Babylon Singularity. There, we face off against Tiamat with Saint Graph level so high that its deemed impossible to defeat. But back then, out hard work bore fruit. We have Quetz to delay "her" directly, Eresh that lay the trap, Grampa Hassan who grant "her" concept of death, and Gilgamesh who delivers the killing blow... So, we can do the same here. Once again. Right?
It kinda is but with higher scale. Back then we have beast, and it took many gods, noble phantasms, and grand servant. Now we have ultimate being, and we only have its heart and hundreds of servant
@@nerox118 storywise we summoned the entire list of servants we’ve encountered so basically Its like solomon except this time Its against an Ultimatum One that Is basically just showing "Threat To The World" sign running for Its heart mainly
So, in its original state Ort has a power called 'crystal valley' that warps its surroundings and turns them into a world made of crystalline matter that is assumed to be the natural state of the place it came from. After merging with the fantasy tree this ability has mutated and instead turns vegetation into tiny fantasy trees.
daybit feed him heart of U-Olga Marie. did you miss previous chapter or something? it is very clear. ORT ate fantasy tree Quasar 6 million years ago after camazotz buried it's body inside the earth. Actually ORT doesn't need it's core to activate. Camazotz after snatching the 'core' from ORT , he started to pull insides of ORT out through the hole created from ripping it's 'core' out. Delaying it's recovery of his insides. Before it can regenerate it's insides again. Malla fused with it inside the earth and fool it to slow it's regeneration down. ORT doesn't actually need it's core to work, it's every body part work on it's own and is self sufficient and can create a replica of it's core in it or probably doesn't even need it but because of it's slow regeneration due to the influence of malla. Dyabit and tezca decided to feed him deinos and a hateful heart of a human being who can give ORT incentive to destroy this planet without it ORT wouldn't try to destroy this earth again like 6 million years ago. Tezca said if Ort came back on it's own, it will cause huge destruction but then fly away from earth. Stll ORT need it's actual core again because either it's 'replica' is weaker than before. it means ORT can't truly remade it's core again unlike other body parts. ORT only need it for full destructive power and strength even though ORT doesn't really need it to work normally just like how tezca describe it. Or it is enable to made it's core again because of malla's influence. i don't know about that detail but i think after reactivating, it take whole control back from malla.
They are quite similar, and LB7 is really similar to Babylonia; with rin faces ft. Gugallanna shenanigans, a variant of Quetzalcoatl, an appearance by caster Gil, and more But with Tiamat, she wasn’t interested in hurting or fighting us from the get go, and even when given the concept of death, stays in imaginary number space on her own free will
Fair to say. Almost the same situation in the final leg. Stop Tiamat before she could reach the centre of Kur, and stop ORT before it can reach its core. Tiamat was restraining herself subconsciously though. She didn’t truly have a will to fight. ORT is just nerfed by several factors, but its purpose is to destroy everything.
@@ttf1298 yeah but ORT is also not interested in fighting us. it just want it's core back. btw the reason why tiamat doesn't had concept is very different but with lot of restriction because at right place, it can be reversed. Ort at full power isn't possible to do it or probably it is possible against any enemy. we have to see later coming chapters to find it.
@@HerMi.T Not entirely. If this ORT still has the same directive as the other one, it will still be told "Kill all life on the planet" since that was the message Earth gave out to other planets in its dying breath in Notes. ORT received said message early and arrived early, and TYPE Saturn isn't around to basically keep it in communications with its own home planet, so it'll most likely stick to its original directive or just go rogue and destroy the entire planet like it was shown in one possible future.
If being immortal allowed Camazotz to defeat an ORT that is equal to the one from PPH, then I think Tiamat could defeat PHH ORT in a fight. Such a fight would never happen of course, but she *COULD* do it.
I’d give it a good maybe Interactions between the strongest variants of divine and Aristoteles have unknown endings so either ORT or Tiamat could win depending on a whole range of factors
Even before having the core gouged out, it's still weaker than PHH ORT because it crash landed on earth a few million years too early. Basically every alien in LB7 were too early. Malla was too early to latch on humans because they're not developed yet. ORT crashed too early because god knows what, so it's less perfect and it also rampaged before the "Promised Time" for some reason as soon as Malla's sun went out for god knows what also.
@@stardust8797 But in a neutral battleground like Japan I'm sure Tiamat could do it. I mean I doubt Camazotz is near Tiamat's level, and if he was able to do it...
Camazotz doesn't really defeat ORT. It just snatches it's heart out when it get the right opportunity by using the opening on it's attacks and defenses. Btw according to tezca, ORT only get deactivated for small time when camazotz rip or snatch it's heart out. It is malla which fused with him and fooled him to slow it's regeneration down. Camazotz can't even damage it, that's why it uses the hole created from ripping it's heart out to pull it's insides out delaying it's regeneration time further. Actually tiamat can't do that because tiamat is not completely immortal like camazotz, she has conditions on her. Because of her being mother godess, she has authority that she will never die unless her children dies. What i mean is that the reason tiamat is immortal and has no concept odf death because Tiamat's existence as the Mother of Genesis renders as a Law of Nature the "fact" that she is "the first to be born into the World, and the last to die." That is to say, so long as another life exists within the same "World" (i.e her sea of life) as Tiamat, she would be incapable of dying. Sea of life also the reason behind her immortality, ORT has the abilty to completely overwrite the world according to it's will, so even tiamat's sea of life would destroyed and absorbed by ORT. Since, ORT can just kill everyone and destroy everything, Tiamat would be helpless in this case.
@@ollin-tonatiuh6418 The neutral battleground has to be and infinite nothing with just the two of them Honestly I’d say ORT wins most if not almost all realistic confrontations between the two
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When Sion calls it the "Sea of Fantasy trees, ORT Xibalba", the chapter's name and icon in the main menu change to that too.
"You're asking for tea right after fleeing for your life?"
Now that's the rational Kadoc I know and lo--
"...I finished the rest of the cheese cookies."
Nevermind.
You can't expect keep your sanity intact after spending so long with the Chaldean gang, gonna fade away before you even notice 😅
kadoc lost it when he had rasputin and koyanskaya fighting at his back while fujimaru was talking with the alien god and hasnt been the same since
Kadoc watching ORT eat every single servant while Guda is having a mental breakdown: this is fine
Nah this Lostbelt NEEDS an anime adaptation, Seeing all the servants summoned by Chaldea go up against ORT would be golden.
a fight more insane than the final fight in avengers end game
Better than the Goetia fight. Countless servants and divine spirits Fujimaru contracted. Even the likes of Spishtar, is an expendable against ORT
@@lesterism i dont know about that, usually stuff like that only remains into the story only servants he actually summoned/contracted with
They tried that with Goetia. The lack of budget and poor production just ended up giving it a 'meh' feel to it.
@@ananda9133 That's because they made it a movie/OVA/whatever. If they make it an anime adaptation like Babylon, they'll absolutely pull it off. It's practically the same thing as Babylon except it's servants and not dingir/soldiers. We know they can absolutely pull off siege-type combat well.
Goredolf has had to dodge Godjuna's death beams and now he has to race against ORT, even if they don't blame him for Chaldeas the clock tower gonna have an eye on him from now on, too powerful😅
That aside, I'm glad that even now he's more concerned about the well-being of Fujimaru, our director is really part of the family
I say he fits more as an F1 racer. Might have more success than being a mage :x
Better than his incompetent dad
Poor dude's probably gonna get slapped with a freakin' sealing designation even if proven innocent at this rate.
Clocktower has nothing on him. Goredolf punch solos every Mage they dish out. 🥸
Musashi:I'm about to get friends
The dark comedy in this fandom keeps me alive
Dumb question but what exactly does crystal valley do
@@dlarenceparks2211
It basically replaces the texture of the Earth with ORT’s native biome. A beautiful, hellish land of crystals completely hostile to Earth’s lifeforms. Think of the Earth as a painting and ORT painting its own picture over it. In simpler terms, it is replacing the fabric of Earth’s reality with its own.
Does getting friends meaning that Musashi will no longer be lost?
9:39 Yup, Camazotz may have turned KP, Eresh, Beni against us as alters at first but he really helped us out a lot by giving us the lost history of his people and the underworld borders that will allow Chaldea's Heroic Spirit army to take on ORT, allowing us to finish what he started so long ago.
Well… Ereshkigal willingly became an alter on her own accord. Rather than being forced like Beni-Enma or King Protea, she agreed to become an Alter, even though she is a Watcher of the Underworld, she is still Chaldea’s Summoned Servant, so she used this chance to reap up more power to be of more use. If she didn’t become an Alter, then she wouldn’t have been able to create Gugalanna that Ishtar stole from Ishtar-Rin. She betrayed what she desired, to be of more use to Chaldea
"All out war using 119 servants" Does the game actually count the number of unique servants you have?
It actually does.
TRISMEGISTUS foresaw that the winning strategy would be Guda seducing ORT's heart and had a breakdown
So it had to calculate the harem protagonist skill value, no wonder crash 😅
Sion: TRISMEGISTUS II what’s our chance of winning?
TRISMEGISTUS II: Yes.
Sion: Understandable, have a nice day.
Edit: Not SHEBA, TRISMEGISTUS II, can’t edit my comment on mobile lol
Lmao Trimegistus pulled an /inclusiveor
Did it literally picked up a joke and went with it!? There is a time and place, and this is not one of them! 😂
TRISMEGISTUS II: ....
Sion: Tell my wife I respect her.
I've been there, ORT. When you wake up but you're still half asleep and hate all life form in the area around you until the neural system initialized properly, I don't try to rewrite reality after that though😓
Seeing ORT calling an entire forest of Fantasy Trees embodies everything I love about ORT and the Types. When something is revealed about them, the reaction is never " scary" or " how is this possible?" It's always "WHAT THE F*CK!!! NO FREAKING WAY!!!. Bless Nasu and his twisted inspiration.
Ok seryously Kadoc and Goredolf just racing in, hitting a bunch of seeds, and pretty much telling us get in loser we are saving the world is not what I ever expected qhen I started playing this game, It's way better.
And now for the Lostbelt to get its namesake.
It truly is a ‘Sea of Trees’. A sea of fantasy trees.
To think this is just an imitation of Crystal Valley though, because ORT doesn’t have its core, so not as dangerous, as hard as that is to believe.
Even If its not dangerous a coreless ORT was still a threat, and we’re lucky Its coreless unlike the real one In PHH whom probably lazing around like a lazy bum
This really makes you wonder can Humanity from Nasuverse colonize other worlds at all if they have monsters like these or worse out there.
Probably depends. ORT is on Earth coz Gaia (Earth itself) decides in the future that Humanity destroyed it too much and it's her final dying wish send to all other planets to destroy Humanity. If we don't rip every planet we land upon, Ultimate Ones will not active. PROBABLY, MAYBE.
@@Feveros_Morgan To mention that we know only this solar system types
Mankind can colonize other worlds if they have the science to fight against that Ultimate One.
One of the main problem of why it's so damn hard for modern humans and NOTE future generation having a hard time dealing this things is because they don't fundamentally understand what they are.
It is said that if human knowledge have reach at the level where the namesake impossible can be replicated. Then it's possible for mankind to conquer the stars. There's a reason why Mystery is dying on Earth as science is tethering going beyond that it's possible for mankind to go beyond without the need of Magic.
Human technology can probably eventualy grow powerful enough to defeat ultimate ones, i mean you have chaos a Dyson Sphere that is probably the most powerful entity in the entire nasuverse, it took a god sacrificing itself just to close the whole in reality were it was peaking at our world
The fact that Tezcatlipoca's time manipulation is so powerful that it was able to bring a *possible future variant of ORT* is absolutely insane.
Tezca definitely deserves his status as a Grand Servant.
Although it does make me wonder, could Aoko also perform a time manipulation feat as powerful as this one?
Yup definitely a feat comparable to true magic
yup, the thing is that his ability is not time manipulation but probability manipulation itself. he can change stuff present in the world according to his will but can't actually a thing which doesn't present in the world. For example it can change things like a kingdom is victorious and then get defeated to kingdom is defeated then get victorious and so on. his power is literally like fifth magic.
first fifth magic is not time manipulation, we still don't know what is the true power of fifth magic. but yeah fifth magic can do something like that. it can even do something like what goetia is going to do with energy he collected to made this world new.
It's a shame that Tezcatlipoca has been nerfed due to being in a human vessel.
Imagine if Tezca *casually* walked inside Olympus, saw a possible future of ORT devouring Olympus and it's Fantasy Tree, and just used his Noble Phantasm to "summon" that ORT right behind Lostbelt Zeus.
Imagine the shock in Lostbelt Zeus' face as he is slowly approuched by the giant enemy spider.
@@ollin-tonatiuh6418 well yeah, you are right. but i even think there is a possibility that full powered tezca can fight zues with his power alone like how romulus helped chaldea. though him not being in his home world can weaken his authority over others.
Ritsuka: "Where's ORT?"
Ritsuka: "Mash, why do I ask dumb things like that?"
Mash: "I don't freaking well know, senpai, WHY *DO* YOU ASK DUMB THINGS LIKE --"
I find it amazing how they always manage to slip some unserious scene in a totally dire situation like 06:29
Man i really want them to adapt this into an anime now
Huh, at 10:07 does it count how many servants you have?
Yep, the number is dependant on your account. So at max, it can list 366 servants currently.
Yes
So that means cheaters who skip battles will only have 1 servant displayed (only Mash) 😂
@10:54 TRIMEGISTUS II, *why* use the _Mathematician's Answer_ out of all the possible replies?!
Not even a _probability assessment_ (which we'd *immediately* plan on disproving), but a *_one-word answer_* ?!
Look it's not capable of giving us a number small enough to represent our odds of winning.
Because the number is a rounding error that rounds to zero.
aka only by doing the math wrong can it give us a yes, and it knows it's doing the math wrong, so it isn't going to show us the math.
@@speckofstardust2090 So Trismegistus is saying... good luck? 🤔
@@alessandrosimonguerreroseg8651 Yep, and hoo boy what a luck we have.
Oh, it printed out a two-word answer in response to this complaint. "Get --" Ahem. Someone has been teaching this thing some terrible language!
HEROIC SPIRITS ASSEMBLE!
119 servants?!
Some servant doesnt count.
if you had every servant in game. it will be 369, i guess.
Neobenedict pog
I might be the only one disappointed with this Lostbelt. I mean it would have been so much awesome if we were to face an enemy who was connected to story than some random alien from outside. Also, imagine every Lostbelt Kings coming to help Chaldea for final fight, like Solomon Arc, would have been much cooler.
Eh, ORT has been hinted since a long while ago, and it IS a being that's part of the Nasuverse and the Lostbelt's history. Just because it ain't a fanservice fest doesn't really makes it bad
Tf you talking about? ORT has been hyped for years
You gotta wait homie. Solomon arc is coming in Antarctica.
Problem with recruiting the other LB kings is:
1) Ivan the Terrible died after losing to both Chaldea and Anastasia
2) Scathach-Skadi's fate within the LB is unknown, though she drained most of her strength helping us fight Surtr-Fenrir
3) Qin Shi Huang would rather be with his people
4) "God of Destruction" Arjuna was slain by "Super Saiyan God" Karna
5) Zeus was slain by Mash using Black Barrel
6) Morgan was slain by her own people after whooping Chaldea's collective ass soundly
(BTW, thumbs up if you can guess both major references)
@@cameraredeye3115 I mean, all of them besides LB Zeus are heroic spirits now, so that doesn’t stop them from coming in Solomon style.
So, you mean to tell me, that the fight against Small ORT… WAS JUST IT SLEEP WALKING?!?!
This ORT is nothing but a super nerfted version. It lacked it's heart, and is not even to the standarts of the real ORT that is still asleep in PHH timeline.
Yes.
Sleep walking? Looks to me like it had a stroke
"119 Servants..."
*"You're missing half my troops."*
LMAO its really funny that Sion just often comes up with those ridiculous names they use.
This battle reminded me of Babylon Singularity. There, we face off against Tiamat with Saint Graph level so high that its deemed impossible to defeat.
But back then, out hard work bore fruit. We have Quetz to delay "her" directly, Eresh that lay the trap, Grampa Hassan who grant "her" concept of death, and Gilgamesh who delivers the killing blow...
So, we can do the same here. Once again. Right?
The possibility is not zero...
I think a beast is a lot weaker than a Type
Same my ass!
Have you seen how the raids go!?
You literally THROW everyone to a meat grinder just to slowed it down!
It kinda is but with higher scale. Back then we have beast, and it took many gods, noble phantasms, and grand servant. Now we have ultimate being, and we only have its heart and hundreds of servant
@@nerox118 storywise we summoned the entire list of servants we’ve encountered so basically Its like solomon except this time Its against an Ultimatum One that Is basically just showing "Threat To The World" sign running for Its heart mainly
So, is the summoned Servant just like a shadow, I mean the summoned Servant's shadow like what happened in the Shimousa manga or the full Servant?
full servant not shadow.
Avenger Assemble but Heroic Servant instead.
So let me understand this right. Daybit fed ORT the Fantasy tree and ORT is like copying a dozen of Fantasy tress...ah we ah fuck
Actually, I think ORT ate the Tree on its own, 6 million years ago BEFORE Daybit even got the chance to get to the Lostbelt.
So, in its original state Ort has a power called 'crystal valley' that warps its surroundings and turns them into a world made of crystalline matter that is assumed to be the natural state of the place it came from. After merging with the fantasy tree this ability has mutated and instead turns vegetation into tiny fantasy trees.
@@mizu7662 so essential it’s kinda like terraforming the planet in a sense
daybit feed him heart of U-Olga Marie. did you miss previous chapter or something? it is very clear. ORT ate fantasy tree Quasar 6 million years ago after camazotz buried it's body inside the earth. Actually ORT doesn't need it's core to activate.
Camazotz after snatching the 'core' from ORT , he started to pull insides of ORT out through the hole created from ripping it's 'core' out. Delaying it's recovery of his insides. Before it can regenerate it's insides again. Malla fused with it inside the earth and fool it to slow it's regeneration down.
ORT doesn't actually need it's core to work, it's every body part work on it's own and is self sufficient and can create a replica of it's core in it or probably doesn't even need it but because of it's slow regeneration due to the influence of malla.
Dyabit and tezca decided to feed him deinos and a hateful heart of a human being who can give ORT incentive to destroy this planet without it ORT wouldn't try to destroy this earth again like 6 million years ago. Tezca said if Ort came back on it's own, it will cause huge destruction but then fly away from earth.
Stll ORT need it's actual core again because either it's 'replica' is weaker than before. it means ORT can't truly remade it's core again unlike other body parts. ORT only need it for full destructive power and strength even though ORT doesn't really need it to work normally just like how tezca describe it.
Or it is enable to made it's core again because of malla's influence. i don't know about that detail but i think after reactivating, it take whole control back from malla.
@@aaronmendoza2010 it kinda always terra form whatever is around them. Strangely enough even type mercury did as well
Is it fair to compare ORT to Tiamat? cept 2356 times WAY worse!?
Well, the situation is almost the same, we literally throw everything at him, but he is way stronger
They are quite similar, and LB7 is really similar to Babylonia; with rin faces ft. Gugallanna shenanigans, a variant of Quetzalcoatl, an appearance by caster Gil, and more
But with Tiamat, she wasn’t interested in hurting or fighting us from the get go, and even when given the concept of death, stays in imaginary number space on her own free will
Fair to say. Almost the same situation in the final leg.
Stop Tiamat before she could reach the centre of Kur, and stop ORT before it can reach its core.
Tiamat was restraining herself subconsciously though. She didn’t truly have a will to fight.
ORT is just nerfed by several factors, but its purpose is to destroy everything.
@@ttf1298 yeah but ORT is also not interested in fighting us. it just want it's core back. btw the reason why tiamat doesn't had concept is very different but with lot of restriction because at right place, it can be reversed. Ort at full power isn't possible to do it or probably it is possible against any enemy. we have to see later coming chapters to find it.
@@HerMi.T Not entirely. If this ORT still has the same directive as the other one, it will still be told "Kill all life on the planet" since that was the message Earth gave out to other planets in its dying breath in Notes. ORT received said message early and arrived early, and TYPE Saturn isn't around to basically keep it in communications with its own home planet, so it'll most likely stick to its original directive or just go rogue and destroy the entire planet like it was shown in one possible future.
I'm surprised we don't fight Fantasy Trees-
Fantasy Tree: time to meet y-
Shadow Border: CHEESE IT I CHOOSE LIFE *drives away*
If being immortal allowed Camazotz to defeat an ORT that is equal to the one from PPH, then I think Tiamat could defeat PHH ORT in a fight.
Such a fight would never happen of course, but she *COULD* do it.
I’d give it a good maybe
Interactions between the strongest variants of divine and Aristoteles have unknown endings so either ORT or Tiamat could win depending on a whole range of factors
Even before having the core gouged out, it's still weaker than PHH ORT because it crash landed on earth a few million years too early. Basically every alien in LB7 were too early. Malla was too early to latch on humans because they're not developed yet. ORT crashed too early because god knows what, so it's less perfect and it also rampaged before the "Promised Time" for some reason as soon as Malla's sun went out for god knows what also.
@@stardust8797
But in a neutral battleground like Japan I'm sure Tiamat could do it.
I mean I doubt Camazotz is near Tiamat's level, and if he was able to do it...
Camazotz doesn't really defeat ORT. It just snatches it's heart out when it get the right opportunity by using the opening on it's attacks and defenses. Btw according to tezca,
ORT only get deactivated for small time when camazotz rip or snatch it's heart out. It is malla which fused with him and fooled him to slow it's regeneration down.
Camazotz can't even damage it, that's why it uses the hole created from ripping it's heart out to pull it's insides out delaying it's regeneration time further.
Actually tiamat can't do that because tiamat is not completely immortal like camazotz, she has conditions on her. Because of her being mother godess, she has authority that she will never die unless her children dies.
What i mean is that the reason tiamat is immortal and has no concept odf death because Tiamat's existence as the Mother of Genesis renders as a Law of Nature the "fact" that she is "the first to be born into the World, and the last to die." That is to say, so long as another life exists within the same "World" (i.e her sea of life) as Tiamat, she would be incapable of dying.
Sea of life also the reason behind her immortality, ORT has the abilty to completely overwrite the world according to it's will, so even tiamat's sea of life would destroyed and absorbed by ORT.
Since, ORT can just kill everyone and destroy everything, Tiamat would be helpless in this case.
@@ollin-tonatiuh6418
The neutral battleground has to be and infinite nothing with just the two of them
Honestly I’d say ORT wins most if not almost all realistic confrontations between the two