If you want easy money then it is best to use sunglasses. Temmie armor still takes too long to farm if you're not so bad that you'd die at least 10 (it's best to die 25) times
I would never be able to solve it by ear. This seems like pure magic to me. Did a tone deafness test and I'm apparently moderately tone deaf. Having at least the choice to display the notes is an important accessibility option.
This really shows how much work she's put into vocal training. It takes a pretty serious amount of time to mentally associate pitches with an instrument, even more so voice. As expected of tokino sofa
Which is ironic, considering everything's come around again xD We started with it covering the video then transitioned to moving the video so it isn't covered and somehow got back to the start xD
I'll second that, I really appreciate you doing that for us. Likewise, I also appreciate it whenever you avoid putting content in the bottom-right of a thumbnail, since the timestamp always covers it up.
That's called movable Do, the name of the pitch doesn't matter, what matters is the root, in G major G is the root, so in movable do instead of singing G/Sol, you'd sing Do. That's a good way to learn because it's more important to understand the relationship between notes in a given context rather than knowing their absolute value.
@@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS It depends from what angle you're trying to approach it. For starters it's not really related to absolute pitch, people able to use absolute pitch doesn't really need to rely movable do because they probably can identify the notes, but they might learn to use it in order to strengthen their relative pitch since they're not incompatible from what I've heard. I don't have absolute pitch to answer from experience on this side, but from what people have told me, developing a sense for relative pitch is helpful even if you have absolute pitch, and they can be complementary skills. I guess an example would be like learning color theory, most of us, unless we have some specific color blindness, can identify colors by using absolute values, you see red and you don't need to compare it to other colors to know it's red, but by learning color theory you develop skills that let you create deliberate color pallets because you're able to understand how colors interact in a relative manner.
god, all the hololive undertale playthroughs make me immediately emotional… watching watame and kanata’s playthroughs were really the breaking point in getting me fully into hololive. they are just such genuinely gentle and kind souls and resonate with the story of undertale so much
Sasuga Sora-chan. But seriously, thank you for adding the animation of the musical scale to this clip, that visual really helps to understand what she's doing with the music.
The answer in the in-game piano's notation format is on the screen, and she still goes through the effort of learning the notation. A for effort, F for observation. 😂
It was interesting to see the change in her body language when she was figuring out the puzzle using her musical skills, you could almost see the shift in mental gear configuration.
@1:35: great work in including the music scale for easier learning and context! Identifying tones without knowing the specific reference tone is one of the features of relative pitch. Having perfect pitch is still better though. One simply can gradually get relative pitch as you consistently keep on doing music, whether it's singing or playing an instrument.
Why would having perfect pitch be better though? It is not a requirement to play, listen or understand music. A lot of people with absolute pitch say it's a curse rather then a blessing since small imperfections in the pitch annoy them. Basically anything played on any remotely viable instrument aside from a microtonal guitar will have imperfect pitch due to equal temperament.
@@Neph9 it's just a general comparison. I do not say that you need relative/perfect pitch to listen/learn music. Relative pitch is just a part of perfect pitch. If you want to identify and learn songs/pieces most efficiently, then having perfect pitch is better than relative pitch. I could understand that having perfect pitch can get annoying (I have friends who have them), but treating it like a curse just because they are annoyed by microtonal imperfections might be an exaggeration. My aforementioned friends could live normally (and often brag about perfect pitch too), and it's not like they always hear sounds with the intent of telling what pitch they are.
I'm so jealous... Learning an instrument rn, and I understand enough music theory to make pretty sounds with it; but I might actually be tone deaf. Can't really tell sounds apart from each other. She's so talented though; I've never seen someone solve this puzzle that way!
The funniest thing is, the game does just give you the answer if you wait by the statue long enough, I've personally never seen someone recognize the pitch and was able to recreate it like that, super impressive
fun fact, this is how Toby Fox meant for the puzzle to be solved, but he added the hint because he realized most people would just look up the solution when they couldn't solve it themselves
For me as kid not knowing english and solving the first silent hill game piano puzzle was also a big accomplishment, and still not knowing english and solving all resident evil's, dino crisis' and silent hill's puzzles was a big accomplishment. This much I'm happy and made me a fan of those games.
it’s funny how she uses the correct syllables to match the pitch she hears in the melody, however the actual pitch she sings when she goes up is Mi (sol mi re sol ti ti ti do) and that is what the second half of the melody actually does.
Sora-chan is truly a genius for being able to figure it out using the musical scale like that. I figured it out by trial and error after listening to the music and trying to match it myself, I think you literally have to have a good mental rhythm to figure that puzzle out without cheating or seeing the arrows if you wait a while.
omg, watching this made me realize I did nearly the same thing to solve it LOL. played the violin for 13 years by that point/studied some music theory, god i loved seeing this
In the 1.0 version of Undertale, there wasn't the hint at the statue that popped up showing which buttons to push. You had to do it by pure pitch recognition and memorization. Sora used pitch recognition anyway; she didn't need the button based hint The button hint was added in v1.001, I guess after convincing Toby that not everyone can reasonably gain or have a sense of pitch. And more importantly, that deaf people are a thing that exists.
We never hear C or C# be played in memory, so it could be in D major or G major. When I taught myself how to play it on the piano i always thought of it as being in D major lol.
OK, so real talk... has the classic LucasFilm Games title "Loom" ever been translated to Japanese? Because if so... Sora really needs to play Loom! Like, I would've never put 2 and 2 together, but it's kind of the perfect game for her...
2:08 The "do" here has a lower pitch than the first "do", i.e she made a small mistake at the beginning and she sang "so mi re" instead of the correct "so re do". But she did play the melody accurately later and that's what matters.
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Other games: Solve puzzle, receive powerup. Win.
Undertale: Solve puzzle, receive dog, lose powerup. Win anyway.
More like: Solve puzzle, receive dog, lose power up, left with trash, find out trash is an inf money generator
If you want easy money then it is best to use sunglasses. Temmie armor still takes too long to farm if you're not so bad that you'd die at least 10 (it's best to die 25) times
The swaying with the mouth wide open face is so cute
I swear I've never seen such cuteness
She's a living metronome.
The cutest concentration
I'd have that on loop
Motion so smooth fr
The last single strand that still holding the yagoo dream 😂
Like that one scene where cap america keeps a chopper from leaving while holding the corner of a building
More like the one who gave yagoo his dream.
@@Xx1devilgod1xX nah, like that one strand of supermans hair holding a 1000 pound weight
The Alpha and Omega, beginning and the end. Sora started the dream and will hold it together until the finish line.
@@flyingoctopus4304except the horny song cover where they moan in the chorus was her idea
I like how the game just tells her the solution, but she still solves it the cool way.
Supposedly older versions of the game didn't have the notes appear above and you did in fact have to do it by ear.
@@kantpredictyeah I don’t ever remember it showing it like that
I would never be able to solve it by ear. This seems like pure magic to me. Did a tone deafness test and I'm apparently moderately tone deaf. Having at least the choice to display the notes is an important accessibility option.
Damn, hearing the leitmotiff for
His Theme for the first time in a while takes me back...
That theme is a WEAPON.
Immediate tears.
His theme?
@@hanakoisbestgirl4752 Google "his theme undertale"
@@hanakoisbestgirl4752 the name of the song is called "His Theme", coz its "His" theme
i don't know if i'm ready to hear it again when he comes back in deltarune
It never ceases to amaze me at how talented Sora-chan is... and yet, how much she gets trolled in games 😅
That is actually quite impressive.
This really shows how much work she's put into vocal training. It takes a pretty serious amount of time to mentally associate pitches with an instrument, even more so voice. As expected of tokino sofa
Or just get "born" with it, like me, 0 effort (mom singing 24/7 at home :D)
Lucky @@prawtism
that is some nice layout for the ending, so instead of the video getting blocked by cards you move it to upper-left... nice one
Which is ironic, considering everything's come around again xD
We started with it covering the video then transitioned to moving the video so it isn't covered and somehow got back to the start xD
I always hate when youtuber blocks the video that is still playing with those video boxes at the end
I'll second that, I really appreciate you doing that for us. Likewise, I also appreciate it whenever you avoid putting content in the bottom-right of a thumbnail, since the timestamp always covers it up.
Do you mean to say that you don't have that extension where you can just click a button to hide those annoying boxes?
@@Justakatto Some are just watching on phones like me. And it's kinda annoying when those things happen. So yeah, props to the editor 😊
That's called movable Do, the name of the pitch doesn't matter, what matters is the root, in G major G is the root, so in movable do instead of singing G/Sol, you'd sing Do. That's a good way to learn because it's more important to understand the relationship between notes in a given context rather than knowing their absolute value.
Surely that only helps with relative and not absolute pitch?
Not trying to dismiss your advice or anything, just to add further context.
@@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS It depends from what angle you're trying to approach it. For starters it's not really related to absolute pitch, people able to use absolute pitch doesn't really need to rely movable do because they probably can identify the notes, but they might learn to use it in order to strengthen their relative pitch since they're not incompatible from what I've heard. I don't have absolute pitch to answer from experience on this side, but from what people have told me, developing a sense for relative pitch is helpful even if you have absolute pitch, and they can be complementary skills. I guess an example would be like learning color theory, most of us, unless we have some specific color blindness, can identify colors by using absolute values, you see red and you don't need to compare it to other colors to know it's red, but by learning color theory you develop skills that let you create deliberate color pallets because you're able to understand how colors interact in a relative manner.
i like your funny words magic man
i can intuitively determine relative pitch this way, but no real notes.
It's singing it in a different key right? The notes are wrong but the relationships of the notes are the same
Sasuga soda chan
sausage soda can indeed
god, all the hololive undertale playthroughs make me immediately emotional… watching watame and kanata’s playthroughs were really the breaking point in getting me fully into hololive. they are just such genuinely gentle and kind souls and resonate with the story of undertale so much
Ririka recently proving it too, I didn't think I'd find someone who cried during True Pacifist more than Watame and then Ririka just went: "Bet."
Fubuki play it several times.
1:12 - Cute Sora.
Also solving it the hard way pretty quickly while ignoring the given on screen answer.
Sora-chan is so smart but that dog is outsmart and off the screen 😂😂
DAMN YOU TOBY
Sasuga Sora-chan. But seriously, thank you for adding the animation of the musical scale to this clip, that visual really helps to understand what she's doing with the music.
Amazing! as expected of Sora
These kinds of puzzles are practically impossible for my tone-deaf ass. But Sora of course nail it.
That undertale music always bring tears to my eyes.
I remember my first playthrough of this game, it was raining in my room
the dream is alive!
There's a reason why she is the Goddess of Hololive!
Wow she's so amazing.
"What do you mean, too many dogs?"
The answer in the in-game piano's notation format is on the screen, and she still goes through the effort of learning the notation. A for effort, F for observation. 😂
She's a curious creature. To her, singing is easier than reading
This is what happens when you did your side quest first.
Sora-chan is like a real life Platelet-chan that grew up
Man that takes me back
Thank you for the translation notes
It was interesting to see the change in her body language when she was figuring out the puzzle using her musical skills, you could almost see the shift in mental gear configuration.
@1:35: great work in including the music scale for easier learning and context!
Identifying tones without knowing the specific reference tone is one of the features of relative pitch. Having perfect pitch is still better though.
One simply can gradually get relative pitch as you consistently keep on doing music, whether it's singing or playing an instrument.
Why would having perfect pitch be better though? It is not a requirement to play, listen or understand music. A lot of people with absolute pitch say it's a curse rather then a blessing since small imperfections in the pitch annoy them. Basically anything played on any remotely viable instrument aside from a microtonal guitar will have imperfect pitch due to equal temperament.
@@Neph9 it's just a general comparison. I do not say that you need relative/perfect pitch to listen/learn music. Relative pitch is just a part of perfect pitch. If you want to identify and learn songs/pieces most efficiently, then having perfect pitch is better than relative pitch.
I could understand that having perfect pitch can get annoying (I have friends who have them), but treating it like a curse just because they are annoyed by microtonal imperfections might be an exaggeration. My aforementioned friends could live normally (and often brag about perfect pitch too), and it's not like they always hear sounds with the intent of telling what pitch they are.
when your idol skills prove useful in an adventure
Amazing sofa-chan
That edit made it so much easier to follow along. Nice
I'm so jealous... Learning an instrument rn, and I understand enough music theory to make pretty sounds with it; but I might actually be tone deaf. Can't really tell sounds apart from each other.
She's so talented though; I've never seen someone solve this puzzle that way!
So this is the true power of an idol to surpass comedians
While watching this video it fills you with determination
Well she is a singer and i think she plays piano too, she could guess harder musical puzzles, sasuga soda chan
It's been a while since the last time I've heard of this game. Thank you Soda chan for reminding me of this masterpiece
1:00 And then i start crying from the memories. I can never hear that melody without getting emotional.
Sasuga first hololive member
As someone that solved this puzzle the same way on my first playthrough, it's always good to see other vtubers do the same
thats Incredible
skilled cute sora-chan!
The one who dreamed of opera but had to settle for goddesshood
that heck of amazing feats
she's not an idol for nothing
That was both impressive and adorable!
Kakkoii to kawaii desu!
Sora really is the final vestige of Yagoo's idol dream
Wow, I dunno if I've ever seen someone solve this puzzle without the guide before. It's so hard for anyone not trained in music
1:33 shi, I didn't even do this, I just played random notes on the clock until it sounded like the original song
The funniest thing is, the game does just give you the answer if you wait by the statue long enough, I've personally never seen someone recognize the pitch and was able to recreate it like that, super impressive
1:00 Sora is so perfect.
Yeah Sora is classically trained.
Idol?!
Sora humming the tune is so blessed.
Interesting to see how Musician Virtual Idol solves musical puzzle made by Musician Game Developer.
This is some fantastic context for the clip. Good on the clipper
It’s cute how she starts swaying with the music
soda chan thinking face is so cute.
fun fact, this is how Toby Fox meant for the puzzle to be solved, but he added the hint because he realized most people would just look up the solution when they couldn't solve it themselves
First time I see anyone solving this puzzle via what looks like solfege to audiate the different pitches. that's some cool musical training she's got.
Undertale was a beautiful game… I could cry 😭
Reminds me of similar puzzle in Myst. These days modern versions also have a alternative way to solve it as well.
Perfect Pitch Tenshi
ty for including dog handou
2:05
"His Theme" cover by Sora 💕
...
Okay that's pretty dope, and also really cute
For me as kid not knowing english and solving the first silent hill game piano puzzle was also a big accomplishment, and still not knowing english and solving all resident evil's, dino crisis' and silent hill's puzzles was a big accomplishment. This much I'm happy and made me a fan of those games.
my favourite song from the game❤
I like your outro, pretty subtle.
She truley is an Idol
Wow.
Is she perfect pitch? Because that would explain this. That's really impressive
that's impressive whoa
the talented soda chan!
She got visited by the one and only TOBY FOX
I fucking love undertale music
This reminds me of the Guardians who would clear Oracles in Vault of Glass just by sound. Real madlads
Soba-chan is amazing.
it’s funny how she uses the correct syllables to match the pitch she hears in the melody, however the actual pitch she sings when she goes up is Mi (sol mi re sol ti ti ti do) and that is what the second half of the melody actually does.
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed lol
Sora-chan is truly a genius for being able to figure it out using the musical scale like that.
I figured it out by trial and error after listening to the music and trying to match it myself, I think you literally have to have a good mental rhythm to figure that puzzle out without cheating or seeing the arrows if you wait a while.
@@Toritori-ke9sf you sound like a very fun person to be around
I need to finish this journey of a game again...
omg, watching this made me realize I did nearly the same thing to solve it LOL. played the violin for 13 years by that point/studied some music theory, god i loved seeing this
Sora is so amazing!~ ^_^
Just watched 4 times in a row because cutest idol ever moment ❤️
That was pretty impressive
Damn, she is musically talented
That end part lmao
In the 1.0 version of Undertale, there wasn't the hint at the statue that popped up showing which buttons to push. You had to do it by pure pitch recognition and memorization.
Sora used pitch recognition anyway; she didn't
need the button based hint
The button hint was added in v1.001, I guess after convincing Toby that not everyone can reasonably gain or have a sense of pitch. And more importantly, that deaf people are a thing that exists.
Perfect pitch can get you dat far huh
Cute Sora vibing 💙
she's so cute 😭😭😭
You can tell how Yagoo got his dreams when he saw fizzly water-chan. Too bad her forerunners are comedians
We never hear C or C# be played in memory, so it could be in D major or G major. When I taught myself how to play it on the piano i always thought of it as being in D major lol.
thats literally how you’re supposed to do that puzzle
OK, so real talk... has the classic LucasFilm Games title "Loom" ever been translated to Japanese? Because if so... Sora really needs to play Loom! Like, I would've never put 2 and 2 together, but it's kind of the perfect game for her...
Very nice, soda chan
This is trully great YAGOO Dream
How can I tell what key a song is in?
Woah, the algorithm seems to like this video recently. Understandable :D
Wtf were the button prompts above the statue insane editing skills or did they actually add that to the game
2:08 The "do" here has a lower pitch than the first "do", i.e she made a small mistake at the beginning and she sang "so mi re" instead of the correct "so re do".
But she did play the melody accurately later and that's what matters.
It makes me want to play again i struggle using controller when that puzzle pop i need to start all over again just because my save file was gone
True idol