I have the HP EliteDesk G1 with an i5 4570 and a GT 1030, I know you said I should go for the GTX 1650 but I just couldn't find one at a good price, and I didn't really like the price range at all, so I went with a GT 1030 I found on Amazon for $100 CAD, the pc is still very good, ranging around at least 75 fps on Fortnite, 144 fps on Valorant, 600 - 850 fps on Minecraft, and 160 fps on cs:go with a 75hz monitor, I don't really think you can play warzone on it, which was the only lowlight of the build, but the pc is already pretty good for my needs, its just all I can afford at this time as a teen, I'll take what I can.
@@TechRoundUp now that I have a gaming pc (or at least a pc that I can play games on) I'm having trouble finding the best budget mouse and gaming keyboard, I don't wanna sound rude and be bossy but can you do like a review of some best budget mouse and keyboard plz? It would be a good video, I'm sure most people would like that
@@flwrs1746 I have that HP EliteDesk G1 with an i5 4570 and a GT 1030, I play Valorant every day on it, I play Fortnite a lot too and trust me, the frames are worth it, I get 75 fps on Fortnite 100% resolution and everything else epic shadows off and it runs smoothly for the price, I have a 75 Hz monitor so it suits me but in-game when u glide down the map you get low as 40 but when I play that I lower my resolution to 65% and I get 120 fps lowest 100, Valorant I have default settings and it runs more than 144 fps smoothly no problem, I got all of this for 400 cads but I'm pretty sure u can get it for way less.
@@flwrs1746 I would be really glad to help you if you want we can talk more maybe add each others discord or Instagram or any other dm app, I'm not really that active on youtube, I check my notifications every 24 hours or smth lmao
Times are certainly tough, but don't by any means think your work isn't valuable. Others get more for stupidity. I personally applaud you and good luck in the near future. Thumbs Up.
They can also be killer computer for families too ! For not too expensive, you can buy a computer like this and put a little bit more on other peripherals.
Thanks for this summary. I am actually building a PC for AI experimentation rather than gaming but the need to add a graphics card (GTX 1650) is the same. For AI, I also need to know whether it has an M.2 or spare PCIe slot for a Coral TPU card. Videos like this help because it is surprisingly difficult to figure out from manufacturers specs the basic questions like: will a GTX 1650 fit? Will the maximum bandwith PCIe be available? Is the power supply big enough? Can the card be powered directly from the PCIe slot (as opposed to an extra adapter)? Is cooling sufficient without drilling holes etc? Dell Optiplex are the cheapest in the UK at the moment but apparently have a rather awkward layout for the graphics card so the max bandwith cannot be used. HP are cheaper than Lenovo right now. There are also HP 600 and 6000 series about, but I do not know what the differences are. It would be good to see the graphic card insertion into each of a range of models. Such a video would be popular with AI experimenters as well as gamers!
I imported an pretty beat up NEC Mate PC from Japan on Buyee for a bargain, including shipping for around ~400 reais, the equivallent to only ~74 dollars (remember this is worldwide shipping) an i3 4130 4GB DDR3 1600Mhz, 240w 80+ power supply on a generic H81 Lenovo motherboard with an empty PCIe slot that I'm thinking on getting a GT 1030, since the 1050/Ti, and the 1650 are too expensive in my currency here in Brazil, and maybe in the future upgrade to 2x4GB of Ram (comes with 2x2GB unfortunately) I need it to study and work, gaming is just a bonus...
For my daughter i built a hp g1 600 with an i5-4570 (?) in it. Added a straight 1050 I got off ebay and dropped in 2x8GB sticks. I got the hp for 95usd shipped, but have to buy screws for the 3.5 and 2.5" drives.
The graphics card in my hp elitedesk does the job just fine for emulation using Batocera. Even plays Wii games very well! I think if you're looking to game online then yeah, get a graphics card, but if you're using it for emulation like I am, just use what it comes with. Saves some time and money. :)
Well I ended up with the Dell Optiplex 7040 Minitower version, not the SFF version. Just a bit bigger I think but it saves me from having to hunt for those rare low profile GPU in my country. Managed to snag a used RX570, add RAM into 16GB and add 480GB cheap ssd as boot drive and it runs with the i5 6500 really nicely. Total power consumption in heavy load is around 85-90% of the 240W PS capacity, yet so far so good no sign of instability or overheat whatsoever.
I got an HP 8200 SFF for free, and upgraded the fans to Noctua fans, both for the cpu and PSU, also added 16 gb of ram, installed an i7-2600 and a gtx 1650 from gygabite and I was reaching over 60 fps at 1080 with med-max settings on Apex legends and halo infinite, a total monster for a 12 year old PC
I just did a complete transplant with a SFF 800 G1 into a midtower PC case. Let me know if you have any questions, if youre not afraid of building your own PC then im here to help, I have a full sized ROG 1060 in this PC with excellent results (Witcher 3 on Ultra, etc.).
Dude I loved this video!! You, DLM Tech Garage and I should do something together. It would be so cool to do something with some other small Tech TH-camrs like ourselves. Great Job Dude!
Totally confused. Am looking at your superb vid of this upgrade. BUT, don't GT 1650 GPU cards have to have extra power connectors ? 6 pin / 8 pin ? , i did'nt see you connect this. I know nothing about GPU's so maybe i am comletely wrong here, but on all other vid re GT 1650 cards you always see the extra power connector that is usually stated as very important as the PCIe bus can't supply all the power for these cards. Again, GREAT vid, but TOTALLY confused. Keep up the good work.
I'm looking for a small cheap computer for writing and taking notes for school what would you suggest? Preferably vintage but I don't mind if it's newer
7:20 quite false in this case, while the HP ones are usually propietary (That's why I would rather avoid HP if you have more choices), the Lenovo ones use a "TFX PSU" which companies like Seasonic and BeQuiet! made some, they are even rated at 80+ Gold, which is nice, I don't know about Dell or some other companies, but in this case, PSU is totally replacable with non propietary stuff!
The Lenovo's have 10 and 14 pin motherboards that do not work properly with BeQuiet TFX's even with 24 pin adapters. That said you can find custom made TFX's even 450W on aliexpress that fit and work right out of the box. Expect to pay $100 at least.
Just got 3 Dell Optiplex 990 pc's from work. They were going to throw them away. Only i5's but much better than the XP pc I've been using. I upgraded one to its max 16gb ram, upgraded its OS from Windows 7 to Windows 10 and added a 2TB Sansung hard disk . Dell tech support told me these won't work with Windows 10, but they do work just fine. I wanted to add a GTX 1650 low profile card but they are no longer available new from MSI or Gigabyte but still listed on their web sites for about $200. And they are available used on eBay for about $400 on up and Walmart still has 4 new MSI 1650's in stock for a bit over $800.00 each! I don't know if this is a temporary shortage because of Covid or if these companies are getting out of the low profile video card business. The video tech support person I spoke with was also not sure. And I don't know enough about video cards to know if there are any other recommended brands or companies still selling them. Please help with any advice or recommendations you have. Thank you.
Greetings I congratulate you on your video, I have a Lenovo m92p I would like to know what you recommend apart from a gtx 1650 low profile which ram would be compatible? And what other things could I add to it to play warzone, apex Legends decently? If you can help me with some links to know which ram is compatible, solid hard disk adapters for this model, do you recommend?
I recently got an HP ProDesk 600 G2 $130 shipped. I5 6600 and 8GB DDR4. It's a mid tower so you can fit full size graphics cards. I did have to splice in pcie power wires for the GTX 970 I put in it. It's only got a 285W PSU, but it's been fine. 😋 All in with the 970 and another 8GB sick of ram it's less than $300.
Hey, thanks for the video! I have a Lenovo M92P-Tower, can I put the GTX 1650 LP? Because I read that the BIOS couldn't read the 1650 LP and the limit to the 1050 - 1080 ti so i don't know if there's a solution and I hope that you can help me with this doubt, thanks!
I've got the hp 8200sff with an i5 2400, 16gb DDR3 ram, Gtx 1660 low profile ddr6. I get over 160fps on Fortnite low settings, solid 60 on ultra all at 1080p. I've got a cheap i5 3470 coming. I'm sure it won't make a big difference but it runs cooler and I like having extra parts just in case
bro until that graph could be reached with this HP EliteDesk 800 G1 computer How about what vram, for example, could the 1060 of 6vram have? or higher?
i have a standard size zotac 1050 ti and my pc is a HP ProDesk 600 G1 SFF .. i know the card is to large but if i used a PCI extender would this be ok to run power wise?
1650 low profile models run very hot.. I have Gigabyte D6 1650 low profile card installed in 8300 SFF & it reaches 90 degree very quickly.. Nothing wrong with its thermal paste as it cools down very quickly once you stop gaming. So the problem lies with card itself, more precisely with Nvidia boosting tech or by Gigabyte algorithm.. It boosts automatically upto 1950 very easily & stays there till its starts throttling. Plus it consumes full 75 watts of power from the pcie socket.. I tried even undervolting it, but that also can delay the temperature rise only till a point. Adjustment in fan curve etc is also not much helpful.. Anyone has any better solution??
i have a hp pro 3130 or 3120 sff (idk what one) and i would like to install 8gb ram (ddr3) an intel xeon x5650 with a 1650 super low profile. would i be able to use the original power supply (220w)?
doubt it... a 1650 needs a 350w. As for upgrading the PSU you wont have enogh space in the box and if you run an external PSU you'll have to know how to repin the cables to fit the ones on the motherboard. Adding RAM is no problem though. You can go up to 16GB with the two slots available.
You can't put a X5650 in a Pro 3130 nor Pro 3120. 3120 is older generation and while Pro 3130 is the same generation as X5650 it's a different platform. Pro 3130 uses the normal mainstream LGA1156 socket while X5650 is for the more expensive HEDT/Enthusiast platform which used the LGA1366 socket. Some X34** series Xeon might work in the Pro 3130 but I'm not sure if the bios is compatible. You can use a 1650 with the 220W PSU just fine.
I have an HP i7 3770 SFF pc quad core pc with 250gb SSD, and I upgraded my RAM to its max, which is 32gb. I did NOT upgrade my graphics, but decided to keep using the integrated graphics built into the motherboard, and it works like a dream. Never overheats, or even gets warm.
Thx for compare but I recently got lenovo m92p sff but it turn out it can support one hdd and one dvd. But I needed to support 2 hdd with dvd or 1hdd with 1sdd both with dvd As this issue was not a problem with my old hp 8300 sff. Later I needed to add gpu as well. How can I add more hdd and ssd without over loading it. Or should I return it and go for hp 8300 sff instead I have 3120 Pro. Plannin to I5 3570, add 4 gb more to make 8gb.
Bro, out of these three which one is in the Top, Middle and Last for regular and for gaming. Out of these three which one is better for cooling and gpu. I though that only value select rams can work not these high brand rams. I hope you Can guide me how to add more hdd, ssd in lenovo m92p as it is easy in others. Otherwise I have to return it.
There all similar, but the M92p does have an extra cooling fan at the front which should add some cooling to the GPU. The ram can be any brand but it will have to be ddr3 1666 or 1800 MHz with 1666 being the stock speed
Bro another question if u don't mind. My old hp 8300 sff mobo went dead. That why I got lenovo m92p sff. My hdd 3.5 1tb is Windows 10 64 bit oem of hp 8300 and my works in D drive. So do I need to install Windows 10 using the Windows 7 key on the box? As I did for hp 8300 or will it work without any issue. I used oem key to upgrade my Windows using my email account
you should have no issue, and if you tied the windows license to your Microsoft account it should be able to tie your windows key to the new machine. Worst case scenario you can call the windows phone number to get assistance with a key.
@@TechRoundUp love too but here in Pakistan, it is little different. So calling Microsoft through call not possible. But I will try it. Thank you bro for replying quickly.
daaamn. This is juts what I needed. I have a 800 g1 i bought some days ago but it comes with an intel pentium 4th gen, i think i will have to change that processor and buy a more powerful one. I also need to buy more ram and a ssd. what really bums me out is the price of graphic cards, they are so expensive right now. I will have to buy mine in another country.
be careful. The power supply unit in these pc's is only 250W. Not enough for any graphics cards above a 1050 ti. It is also nearly impossible to upgrade the power supply units unless you know how to repin the cables to fit the motherboard.
@@louisavondart9178 thanks for the info. I decided not to go on with that project because i wanted a brand new computer so i bought new components and asked a friend to help me put together a computer. I am very happy now with the one i have. It has 16gb of ram, an ssd of 240gb, a 1tb hd, an amd 2400g and a power supply of 600w that i want to upragrade in the future.
this was alot helpful because im fifteen and trying to gett a gaming pc before my family moves and i think the hp elite 8300 is gonna be my rig until i upgrade
HP's are somewhat more difficult to upgrade. The most annoying thing is the proprietary motherboard, that makes changing shitty PSU almost impossible. And without good PSU, you can only run low power GPUs. RAM is also of a not very common type. If you get an HP, get a minitower.
Dont. the best graphics card you can use is the 1050 ti due to the low power supply output and even then you'll have to use low graphics settings to avoid lagging. Waste of money... ( from someone who made this mistake )
@@louisavondart9178 I bought a PSU adapter on eBay which allowed me to install an old 550-Watt PSU in my HP 8200 Minitower. Now I can run any GPU I want.
2ND EDIT: I tested a GTX 1050 TI LP on my 6300 and it seems to be drawing almost 70 watts from the motherboard (proof: imgur.com/a/WvuoLmn ) You didn't mention that SFF versions of HP (and maybe other vendors too) SFF's PCI-E X16 slot is limited to 25 Watts only. EDIT: It's actually 35W instead of 25W for the HP Elite 8300 SFF.
I have had no issue hitting expected performance from the 1050 or 1650 in either HP SFF builds I have done. So don’t know if that 25w limit truly applies to all HP systems. From what I can gather from research and real life testing the card has no issues
the "Quickspecs" manual of the HP Elite 8300 says that the SFF version's PCI Express x16 slot has a max power of 35 Watts while the Micro Tower (CMT) version has a standard 75 Watts max power (If you want to check it out yourself you google "HP Elite 8300 Quick specs", download the manual and go to page 15...)
@@burgir180 I see on the HP website is says 25w maxium power - Im running a 1650 low profile in one of my HP 6300s - its perfectly fine and the 1650 is a 85w card. Msi afterburner shows usage at 99%. These HPs are awesome low budget computers
I just bought a Dell OptiPlex with i7-4770 for (£155) SFF and a GTX 650 new for £190, so $345 all in (will need to add an HDD) as it only comes with 500 SSD... not too expensive But the main reason I am doing this is, so I don't need my AMD gaming rig running for anything other than when high performance is really needed... it's costing me a fortune in juice, and this Dell convention will use about 25% of the electric saving me about £300 per year... So it is a no-brainer really ;D PS I expect to be doing a mod to the PC case, so I can increase airflow, Nothing drastic, but I don't believe a singe fan will be enough and plan to add a second to create push-pull airflow, maybe from the rear or hack a hole in the side... It's not delivered yet, so cannot say more yet
Not really, but you could spend a little extra, around $300 for an HP 800 G2 which will comes with an i7-6700. The performance really won’t be that much better over a 4th gen i7, but it will have some newer features like DDR4 memory
Tech Round Up ok thank you I’m trying to find a platform for a sff sleeper pc. These office pc’s seem like a good idea but wouldn’t be future proof if I can’t upgrade the cpu.
The Lenovo ThinkCentre M93p SFF, supports 4thc Gen CPU's, 32gb max Memory, supports 2 16x pci-e fits 1050 and 1650 Low Profile cards, the HP's are junk
I'm going to buy a 800 G1, that already have 16GB Ram, however due to the limited 240W, do you think it will be okay to add a Samsung 860 Evo 1TB and a MSI GTX 1050Ti Low profile? :) I already have a 1050Ti in another computer so i would just need to buy the SSD (and also the computer) :P Ohhh and subscribed! :D
Hello I want to tell you I have a motherboard H61m-s1 rev 2.1 with i7 3770 8 gb ram and I want to ask you what graphics could be useful for me, since I tried an Rx550 and it did not recognize me, although the pc started normal, I hope you help me Thank you very much
a 1050 ti is about the limit for these pc's due to the low power supply output. Even then you may get lagging if trying to use high graphics resolution.
No. Normal gpu will not fit the case. The case is too narrow to fit a normal gpu. That's why they call the case a SSF (Slim Form Factor) because it is SLIM.
if you are talking about the 1650 super then you are in trouble because they need 6 pin power input too. HOWEVER, the trick is to purchase that SATA to 6-pin or 8-pin power adapter cable and use it to transform one of the idle disk power cable to GPU power input. It works for me, with the original 240W PS.
No probs man. However if your case require low profile card then 1650 non super is the only available one. Mine doesn't, it can accommodate full size card as long as the length fit. So i can cram 1650 super or in my case an rx570 (single fan type from sapphire, so it's short in length) . Nothing higher than that is possible due to limited 240W PS though. I can cram rx580 but it's encroaching the 100% max load of the PSU. Too risky.
Those ratings don't really mean anything. 75W is the PCIe x16 spec so if it didn't output 75W it wouldn't be branded as PCIe. I have a bit older 7900 sff and it's been working fine with a 60W GPU for years. It also has a BSEL (tape) modded Core2 Quad Q6600 @ 3.0GHz which uses more power than any of the officially supported Q8000/Q9000 series CPUs (also more than what the i5/i7 3rd gen in the 8300 would use).
@@Pasi123 currently running a low profile 1650 on the board, i7 3770. Due to Temps on the particular card the card is set to 80% max power draw with a 150 mhz overclock and a 200mhz reduction on memory. Runs brisk, runs fast and doesn't blow up xd
The M92P is a terrible choice, with a dual slot PCIE graphics card you will not be able to fit any other PCIE cards, wireless for example.. it's limited by it's PCIE slots so not a good choice..
So I recently got a HP Elitedesk 800 G1 with an i7. it has a small SSD for the operating system and a hard drive for everything else. You're saying if i install that graphics card, I should be able to run games smoothly? I don't need to buy anything for extra cooling or anything like that? I want this to be a budget PC, so I'm not to invest too much into this. And I don't expect to have off the charts performance or anything.
a gtx 1050 ti will run pretty well on low to medium graphics settings. It depends on the game really. Something like Post Scriptum of Hell let loose and you'll have a problem with lagging and you'll need 16GB of RAM.
So I just recently watched your video and bought the gpu but my pc gets a black screen and it shows the gpu on the pc but it's not working with the pc only shows a black screen for the second monitor, when I bootuo halo it's only using the Intel graphics card instead of the gtx any ideas on what could it be ?
@@TechRoundUp Gtx 1650 I overheard on the video that I need to change the motherboard and the power supply tho but, on my pc I managed to add a GT 1030
Either of those should be fine, as long as your connecting direct from the graphics card to the monitors with hdmi or DisplayPort you they should work. Driving two monitors shouldn’t cause a black screen. Are there any display driver updates for the GPU?
@@TechRoundUp I updated from windows and it showed the black screen in one monitor, I download the driver from the nvidia website still with the black screen, it's like the pc is accepting the gpu but it's not working with the pc so it would run games at high graphics, my guess is just to buy a new motherboard cuz on the video you said about the lenovo m92 to change the motherboard
0:37 that must be painful to look at
LoL 🤣
It’s fake tho the numbers don’t add up
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You saved me 1 hr of research , thanks
Me toooo
Same
Yep
I have the HP EliteDesk G1 with an i5 4570 and a GT 1030, I know you said I should go for the GTX 1650 but I just couldn't find one at a good price, and I didn't really like the price range at all, so I went with a GT 1030 I found on Amazon for $100 CAD, the pc is still very good, ranging around at least 75 fps on Fortnite, 144 fps on Valorant, 600 - 850 fps on Minecraft, and 160 fps on cs:go with a 75hz monitor, I don't really think you can play warzone on it, which was the only lowlight of the build, but the pc is already pretty good for my needs, its just all I can afford at this time as a teen, I'll take what I can.
Very nice, glad the build is working for what you need
@@TechRoundUp now that I have a gaming pc (or at least a pc that I can play games on) I'm having trouble finding the best budget mouse and gaming keyboard, I don't wanna sound rude and be bossy but can you do like a review of some best budget mouse and keyboard plz? It would be a good video, I'm sure most people would like that
Brian y0u what is your pc called I’m trying to get a pc for Fortnite and valorant what’s the FPS for both of those? Plz respond
@@flwrs1746 I have that HP EliteDesk G1 with an i5 4570 and a GT 1030, I play Valorant every day on it, I play Fortnite a lot too and trust me, the frames are worth it, I get 75 fps on Fortnite 100% resolution and everything else epic shadows off and it runs smoothly for the price, I have a 75 Hz monitor so it suits me but in-game when u glide down the map you get low as 40 but when I play that I lower my resolution to 65% and I get 120 fps lowest 100, Valorant I have default settings and it runs more than 144 fps smoothly no problem, I got all of this for 400 cads but I'm pretty sure u can get it for way less.
@@flwrs1746 I would be really glad to help you if you want we can talk more maybe add each others discord or Instagram or any other dm app, I'm not really that active on youtube, I check my notifications every 24 hours or smth lmao
Times are certainly tough, but don't by any means think your work isn't valuable. Others get more for stupidity. I personally applaud you and good luck in the near future. Thumbs Up.
My rig I just finished building is an older model of Dell's Optiplex 790 with a 500w power supply I put in it and a RX 570
DAMNNNN , I got the rx 570 and 500w too and I got a i3, it cost me $400, I could’ve saved so much money
Love the fact that this channel considers people on a budget !
Keep it up!!
Definitely something we will continue to do!
They can also be killer computer for families too ! For not too expensive, you can buy a computer like this and put a little bit more on other peripherals.
Thanks for this summary. I am actually building a PC for AI experimentation rather than gaming but the need to add a graphics card (GTX 1650) is the same. For AI, I also need to know whether it has an M.2 or spare PCIe slot for a Coral TPU card.
Videos like this help because it is surprisingly difficult to figure out from manufacturers specs the basic questions like: will a GTX 1650 fit? Will the maximum bandwith PCIe be available? Is the power supply big enough? Can the card be powered directly from the PCIe slot (as opposed to an extra adapter)? Is cooling sufficient without drilling holes etc?
Dell Optiplex are the cheapest in the UK at the moment but apparently have a rather awkward layout for the graphics card so the max bandwith cannot be used. HP are cheaper than Lenovo right now. There are also HP 600 and 6000 series about, but I do not know what the differences are. It would be good to see the graphic card insertion into each of a range of models. Such a video would be popular with AI experimenters as well as gamers!
I got an HP Elite 8200 SFF with an i7 2600 for 80 USD. I cleaned it, replaced the fans and added an SSD and RAM from my old PC.
I really hope you get more subs in the next months! You deserve it!
Thanks!
I imported an pretty beat up NEC Mate PC from Japan on Buyee for a bargain, including shipping for around ~400 reais, the equivallent to only ~74 dollars (remember this is worldwide shipping) an i3 4130 4GB DDR3 1600Mhz, 240w 80+ power supply on a generic H81 Lenovo motherboard with an empty PCIe slot that I'm thinking on getting a GT 1030, since the 1050/Ti, and the 1650 are too expensive in my currency here in Brazil, and maybe in the future upgrade to 2x4GB of Ram (comes with 2x2GB unfortunately) I need it to study and work, gaming is just a bonus...
Link? Pls
For my daughter i built a hp g1 600 with an i5-4570 (?) in it. Added a straight 1050 I got off ebay and dropped in 2x8GB sticks. I got the hp for 95usd shipped, but have to buy screws for the 3.5 and 2.5" drives.
the 1050 is really bad though. Get a better one if you want her to really game
Man, I like this video. I hope you keep growing. I think your editing is spot on.
The graphics card in my hp elitedesk does the job just fine for emulation using Batocera. Even plays Wii games very well! I think if you're looking to game online then yeah, get a graphics card, but if you're using it for emulation like I am, just use what it comes with. Saves some time and money. :)
Oh, I did add up to 12 gb of ram though, only thing I added to it.
Well I ended up with the Dell Optiplex 7040 Minitower version, not the SFF version. Just a bit bigger I think but it saves me from having to hunt for those rare low profile GPU in my country. Managed to snag a used RX570, add RAM into 16GB and add 480GB cheap ssd as boot drive and it runs with the i5 6500 really nicely. Total power consumption in heavy load is around 85-90% of the 240W PS capacity, yet so far so good no sign of instability or overheat whatsoever.
I managed to scoop up 2 hp pro desk 600g1’s with intel i7 from work they were throwing them in the trash! Nothing wrong with them at all. Idiots.
Where are u from I need one
I got an HP 8200 SFF for free, and upgraded the fans to Noctua fans, both for the cpu and PSU, also added 16 gb of ram, installed an i7-2600 and a gtx 1650 from gygabite and I was reaching over 60 fps at 1080 with med-max settings on Apex legends and halo infinite, a total monster for a 12 year old PC
Keep going you know your stuff thank you for the information
Thanks!
I just did a complete transplant with a SFF 800 G1 into a midtower PC case. Let me know if you have any questions, if youre not afraid of building your own PC then im here to help, I have a full sized ROG 1060 in this PC with excellent results (Witcher 3 on Ultra, etc.).
why didn't you edit the last part of the video? anyway you got my sub. cheers up!
Dude I loved this video!! You, DLM Tech Garage and I should do something together. It would be so cool to do something with some other small Tech TH-camrs like ourselves. Great Job Dude!
Should I stay away from i5?
Totally confused. Am looking at your superb vid of this upgrade. BUT, don't GT 1650 GPU cards have to have extra power connectors ? 6 pin / 8 pin ? , i did'nt see you connect this. I know nothing about GPU's so maybe i am comletely wrong here, but on all other vid re GT 1650 cards you always see the extra power connector that is usually stated as very important as the PCIe bus can't supply all the power for these cards. Again, GREAT vid, but TOTALLY confused. Keep up the good work.
Just subscribed, good luck!
I bought a hp elite 8200 for $25 it’s great
@Mr_Shams I bought it second hand off eBay if your lucky you may find something close to that price you just have to keep looking
@@shrekross8037 how was i
@Mr_Shams it
I found a few Lenovo M82 SFF with i5's for $50 each.
Ahh SSF stands for small form factor. Learned something new today. Thanks Tech Round Up
Glad i could help
@@TechRoundUp I didn't even put the correct acronym. It's SFF, not SSF. Two lessons in one day. Truly amazing
I'm looking for a small cheap computer for writing and taking notes for school what would you suggest? Preferably vintage but I don't mind if it's newer
Looking to just add hyperspin, emulators and NOT new games. Just maybe up until GameCube!?
I dont know how you found that gtx 1650 so cheap! Amazon pricing right now $350
Note this was months ago those damn scalpers hitting hard
Thank you!!! Keep up the great work!
i was gonna subscribe but after seeing another youtuber doing that annoying subscription ratio I dont realy feel like it
This is much harder outside the US, even in neighboring countries like Canada or Mexico.
7:20 quite false in this case, while the HP ones are usually propietary (That's why I would rather avoid HP if you have more choices), the Lenovo ones use a "TFX PSU" which companies like Seasonic and BeQuiet! made some, they are even rated at 80+ Gold, which is nice, I don't know about Dell or some other companies, but in this case, PSU is totally replacable with non propietary stuff!
The Lenovo's have 10 and 14 pin motherboards that do not work properly with BeQuiet TFX's even with 24 pin adapters.
That said you can find custom made TFX's even 450W on aliexpress that fit and work right out of the box. Expect to pay $100 at least.
what is a better cpu a i5 3470 or i7 2600
Coincidentally am buying an Elite 8300 with i5 3470. Already have 1050ti GTX for it.
@@CompuforceWally Oh nice !
Just got 3 Dell Optiplex 990 pc's from work. They were going to throw them away. Only i5's but much better than the XP pc I've been using. I upgraded one to its max 16gb ram, upgraded its OS from Windows 7 to Windows 10 and added a 2TB Sansung hard disk . Dell tech support told me these won't work with Windows 10, but they do work just fine. I wanted to add a GTX 1650 low profile card but they are no longer available new from MSI or Gigabyte but still listed on their web sites for about $200. And they are available used on eBay for about $400 on up and Walmart still has 4 new MSI 1650's in stock for a bit over $800.00 each! I don't know if this is a temporary shortage because of Covid or if these companies are getting out of the low profile video card business. The video tech support person I spoke with was also not sure. And I don't know enough about video cards to know if there are any other recommended brands or companies still selling them. Please help with any advice or recommendations you have. Thank you.
I have HP Elitedesk G2 800 SFF, with existing NVIDIA GT730 DDR3, will DDR4 or DDR5 will work?
Greetings I congratulate you on your video, I have a Lenovo m92p I would like to know what you recommend apart from a gtx 1650 low profile which ram would be compatible? And what other things could I add to it to play warzone, apex Legends decently? If you can help me with some links to know which ram is compatible, solid hard disk adapters for this model, do you recommend?
I recently got an HP ProDesk 600 G2 $130 shipped. I5 6600 and 8GB DDR4. It's a mid tower so you can fit full size graphics cards. I did have to splice in pcie power wires for the GTX 970 I put in it. It's only got a 285W PSU, but it's been fine. 😋 All in with the 970 and another 8GB sick of ram it's less than $300.
Can you run 2021-2022 games on it?
@@milenkoarsenovic2526 It played Cyber Punk pretty ok.
@@WillThat I have RX 570 4gb in my old PC and I'm looking to buy pc with spec like yours, I think it can play most games on high settings
800 G1 is a nice compact beast
Windows 11 news kinda makes this moot, except for short term stop gaps.
I have a HP 8200 Elite core i5 runing WIndows XP for retro old gaming
could i put an rx 550 on the HP 8300
Jeez ur underrated
Lol nice editing dude
Hey, thanks for the video! I have a Lenovo M92P-Tower, can I put the GTX 1650 LP? Because I read that the BIOS couldn't read the 1650 LP and the limit to the 1050 - 1080 ti so i don't know if there's a solution and I hope that you can help me with this doubt, thanks!
the problem is the PSU being only 250w. Almost impossible to upgrade that so the 1050ti is your limit.
What kind of wireless card would you add to this build?
Lol I just ordered a cheap adapter from Amazon. It's definitely limiting my speeds
Just the video was looking for. Having bad luck buying the mobos only on Ebay. All withfailure to post. Or 4 beeps no display.
i have a hp elite 8300 mid tower with a gtx 660 and it plays games at around 100 fps
Best old one is HP Z240 SFF and it supports i7 7th gen, so yeah with a i7 7700 it would rock and Gigabyte 1650 gtx 6D with Gddr6
What about the HP Elite 8200 i5 3.2Ghz? Is it as good as the 8300?
Awesome vid! Just picked up a Dell Optiplex 3040 SFF i5-6500 16GB RAM on FB Marketplace. Looking for a Low Profile GTX 1650! perfect 1080P gaming rig.
I've got the hp 8200sff with an i5 2400, 16gb DDR3 ram, Gtx 1660 low profile ddr6. I get over 160fps on Fortnite low settings, solid 60 on ultra all at 1080p. I've got a cheap i5 3470 coming. I'm sure it won't make a big difference but it runs cooler and I like having extra parts just in case
I got a elite 800 g1 but I don't have extra removable slots for pci. I'm confused
Thank you Sir, you just saved me $100 and I'm able to get a better machine.
bro until that graph could be reached with this HP EliteDesk 800 G1 computer
How about what vram, for example, could the 1060 of 6vram have? or higher?
Can you make a vid of how to install a graphic card for the i7 elite 8300
i have a standard size zotac 1050 ti and my pc is a HP ProDesk 600 G1 SFF .. i know the card is to large but if i used a PCI extender would this be ok to run power wise?
So sorry if this is a dumb question but could I buy one of these and then rip out the motherboard. And put a new third party one in there?
Not very easily as a lot of the boards and hole patterns are proprietary.
1650 low profile models run very hot.. I have Gigabyte D6 1650 low profile card installed in 8300 SFF & it reaches 90 degree very quickly.. Nothing wrong with its thermal paste as it cools down very quickly once you stop gaming. So the problem lies with card itself, more precisely with Nvidia boosting tech or by Gigabyte algorithm.. It boosts automatically upto 1950 very easily & stays there till its starts throttling. Plus it consumes full 75 watts of power from the pcie socket.. I tried even undervolting it, but that also can delay the temperature rise only till a point. Adjustment in fan curve etc is also not much helpful.. Anyone has any better solution??
um quick question doesn't the board only power 75w total ??? on the 8300
Liked, subscribed! Very useful and well documented. Keep up the great work, buddy! Happy New Year!
Thanks for the sub!
awesome video! might end up doing this
Nice ending,.lulz
Thanks for the info
some of this info is misleading.
i have a hp pro 3130 or 3120 sff (idk what one) and i would like to install 8gb ram (ddr3) an intel xeon x5650 with a 1650 super low profile. would i be able to use the original power supply (220w)?
doubt it... a 1650 needs a 350w. As for upgrading the PSU you wont have enogh space in the box and if you run an external PSU you'll have to know how to repin the cables to fit the ones on the motherboard. Adding RAM is no problem though. You can go up to 16GB with the two slots available.
You can't put a X5650 in a Pro 3130 nor Pro 3120. 3120 is older generation and while Pro 3130 is the same generation as X5650 it's a different platform.
Pro 3130 uses the normal mainstream LGA1156 socket while X5650 is for the more expensive HEDT/Enthusiast platform which used the LGA1366 socket. Some X34** series Xeon might work in the Pro 3130 but I'm not sure if the bios is compatible.
You can use a 1650 with the 220W PSU just fine.
Do any of these 3 builds support 16 gig ram?
I have an HP i7 3770 SFF pc quad core pc with 250gb SSD, and I upgraded my RAM to its max, which is 32gb. I did NOT upgrade my graphics, but decided to keep using the integrated graphics built into the motherboard, and it works like a dream. Never overheats, or even gets warm.
Thx for compare but I recently got lenovo m92p sff but it turn out it can support one hdd and one dvd.
But I needed to support 2 hdd with dvd
or 1hdd with 1sdd both with dvd
As this issue was not a problem with my old hp 8300 sff.
Later I needed to add gpu as well.
How can I add more hdd and ssd without over loading it.
Or should I return it and go for hp 8300 sff instead
I have 3120 Pro.
Plannin to I5 3570, add 4 gb more to make 8gb.
ok people for sff desktop get low profile only and for mt size you can get both theres your answer
Very cool. Thanks !!!
@Tech Round Up, how about turning a HD pavilion p6 2100 series, can i convert it into a gaming rig for cheap
Can u have a vid with actually installing it to them....like does it fit into the m92p
how about the HP prodesk 400 g5,? The i5 8th gen procie with 250w PSU variant.
EDIT: I just saw HP prodesk 400 G5 MT for 314 USD only
De Ja Vu. Ground Hog Day?
Bro, out of these three which one is in the Top, Middle and Last for regular and for gaming.
Out of these three which one is better for cooling and gpu.
I though that only value select rams can work not these high brand rams.
I hope you Can guide me how to add more hdd, ssd in lenovo m92p as it is easy in others.
Otherwise I have to return it.
There all similar, but the M92p does have an extra cooling fan at the front which should add some cooling to the GPU. The ram can be any brand but it will have to be ddr3 1666 or 1800 MHz with 1666 being the stock speed
@@TechRoundUp OK thx. But how to insert 1 more hdd or 1 more ssd with my existing 1tb seaate regular hdd.
I saw one where he used laptop hdd and ssd
No love for Dell? I use optiplex 7040 and they are quite good, and quite new too with 6th gen intel
Bro another question if u don't mind.
My old hp 8300 sff mobo went dead. That why I got lenovo m92p sff.
My hdd 3.5 1tb is Windows 10 64 bit oem of hp 8300 and my works in D drive.
So do I need to install Windows 10 using the Windows 7 key on the box? As I did for hp 8300 or will it work without any issue.
I used oem key to upgrade my Windows using my email account
you should have no issue, and if you tied the windows license to your Microsoft account it should be able to tie your windows key to the new machine. Worst case scenario you can call the windows phone number to get assistance with a key.
@@TechRoundUp love too but here in Pakistan, it is little different.
So calling Microsoft through call not possible. But I will try it.
Thank you bro for replying quickly.
whish one is better ???
daaamn. This is juts what I needed. I have a 800 g1 i bought some days ago but it comes with an intel pentium 4th gen, i think i will have to change that processor and buy a more powerful one. I also need to buy more ram and a ssd. what really bums me out is the price of graphic cards, they are so expensive right now. I will have to buy mine in another country.
be careful. The power supply unit in these pc's is only 250W. Not enough for any graphics cards above a 1050 ti. It is also nearly impossible to upgrade the power supply units unless you know how to repin the cables to fit the motherboard.
@@louisavondart9178 thanks for the info. I decided not to go on with that project because i wanted a brand new computer so i bought new components and asked a friend to help me put together a computer. I am very happy now with the one i have. It has 16gb of ram, an ssd of 240gb, a 1tb hd, an amd 2400g and a power supply of 600w that i want to upragrade in the future.
What if mine doesn't have the removable slots for pci on outside?
3:43 1650 super doesn't come in low profile variants? Right?
I’m pretty sure only the base 1650 comes in LP
this was alot helpful because im fifteen and trying to gett a gaming pc before my family moves and i think the hp elite 8300 is gonna be my rig until i upgrade
some of this info is misleading.
HP's are somewhat more difficult to upgrade. The most annoying thing is the proprietary motherboard, that makes changing shitty PSU almost impossible. And without good PSU, you can only run low power GPUs. RAM is also of a not very common type. If you get an HP, get a minitower.
Dont. the best graphics card you can use is the 1050 ti due to the low power supply output and even then you'll have to use low graphics settings to avoid lagging. Waste of money... ( from someone who made this mistake )
@@louisavondart9178 I bought a PSU adapter on eBay which allowed me to install an old 550-Watt PSU in my HP 8200 Minitower. Now I can run any GPU I want.
2ND EDIT: I tested a GTX 1050 TI LP on my 6300 and it seems to be drawing almost 70 watts from the motherboard (proof: imgur.com/a/WvuoLmn )
You didn't mention that SFF versions of HP (and maybe other vendors too) SFF's PCI-E X16 slot is limited to 25 Watts only.
EDIT: It's actually 35W instead of 25W for the HP Elite 8300 SFF.
I have had no issue hitting expected performance from the 1050 or 1650 in either HP SFF builds I have done. So don’t know if that 25w limit truly applies to all HP systems. From what I can gather from research and real life testing the card has no issues
the "Quickspecs" manual of the HP Elite 8300 says that the SFF version's PCI Express x16 slot has a max power of 35 Watts while the Micro Tower (CMT) version has a standard 75 Watts max power
(If you want to check it out yourself you google "HP Elite 8300 Quick specs", download the manual and go to page 15...)
@@burgir180 I see on the HP website is says 25w maxium power - Im running a 1650 low profile in one of my HP 6300s - its perfectly fine and the 1650 is a 85w card. Msi afterburner shows usage at 99%. These HPs are awesome low budget computers
@@Tubtub1 You have the SFF version?
@@burgir180 yep SFF. Small form factor version. i5 3570 8gb ddr3
for that price i would get a hp z420 that is the same price or lower
can a Dell optiplex 790 compete?
I just bought a Dell OptiPlex with i7-4770 for (£155) SFF and a GTX 650 new for £190, so $345 all in (will need to add an HDD) as it only comes with 500 SSD... not too expensive
But the main reason I am doing this is, so I don't need my AMD gaming rig running for anything other than when high performance is really needed... it's costing me a fortune in juice, and this Dell convention will use about 25% of the electric saving me about £300 per year...
So it is a no-brainer really ;D
PS I expect to be doing a mod to the PC case, so I can increase airflow, Nothing drastic, but I don't believe a singe fan will be enough and plan to add a second to create push-pull airflow, maybe from the rear or hack a hole in the side... It's not delivered yet, so cannot say more yet
Could I upgrade the cpu past intel 4th gen while using the same case, psu, and other components?
No, as the cpu chipset and socket change with the next gen
Tech Round Up ok, could the motherboard be upgraded in any of these pc’s?
Not really, but you could spend a little extra, around $300 for an HP 800 G2 which will comes with an i7-6700. The performance really won’t be that much better over a 4th gen i7, but it will have some newer features like DDR4 memory
Tech Round Up ok thank you I’m trying to find a platform for a sff sleeper pc. These office pc’s seem like a good idea but wouldn’t be future proof if I can’t upgrade the cpu.
@@hollol5933 There is no future proofing with this setup, 10th generation is already there.
The Lenovo ThinkCentre M93p SFF, supports 4thc Gen CPU's, 32gb max Memory, supports 2 16x pci-e fits 1050 and 1650 Low Profile cards, the HP's are junk
I'm going to buy a 800 G1, that already have 16GB Ram, however due to the limited 240W, do you think it will be okay to add a Samsung 860 Evo 1TB and a MSI GTX 1050Ti Low profile? :)
I already have a 1050Ti in another computer so i would just need to buy the SSD (and also the computer) :P
Ohhh and subscribed! :D
Is the prodesk and desk elite the same thing
Very similar but different
Did these 1650 graphics cards increase in price?
Sadly yes 😢
@@TechRoundUp why
@@TechRoundUp also do I have to use a low profile graphics card
Hello I want to tell you I have a motherboard H61m-s1 rev 2.1 with i7 3770 8 gb ram and I want to ask you what graphics could be useful for me, since I tried an Rx550 and it did not recognize me, although the pc started normal, I hope you help me Thank you very much
a 1050 ti is about the limit for these pc's due to the low power supply output. Even then you may get lagging if trying to use high graphics resolution.
If i buy this pc can i connect the adapter atx 24 pin to 12 change the psu to 600w can i than have a normal gpu not a low profile???
No. Normal gpu will not fit the case. The case is too narrow to fit a normal gpu. That's why they call the case a SSF (Slim Form Factor) because it is SLIM.
Will the PSU support for 1650 or 1560 because they need more Power
1650 requires no external power, so it will be fine
if you are talking about the 1650 super then you are in trouble because they need 6 pin power input too. HOWEVER, the trick is to purchase that SATA to 6-pin or 8-pin power adapter cable and use it to transform one of the idle disk power cable to GPU power input. It works for me, with the original 240W PS.
@@internetw4nk3r74 thanks for replying I will keep this in mind
No probs man. However if your case require low profile card then 1650 non super is the only available one. Mine doesn't, it can accommodate full size card as long as the length fit. So i can cram 1650 super or in my case an rx570 (single fan type from sapphire, so it's short in length) . Nothing higher than that is possible due to limited 240W PS though. I can cram rx580 but it's encroaching the 100% max load of the PSU. Too risky.
Does a Ryzen 5 3600G work with any of these PCs?
These computers all have Intel chips which means Intel motherboards so no. You would have to get a AMD configured motherboard put in there
But Lenovo also made a AMD models with amd A8, A10 and A12 chips.
Isn't the 8300 sff pci-e x16 rated for only 35w?
Those ratings don't really mean anything. 75W is the PCIe x16 spec so if it didn't output 75W it wouldn't be branded as PCIe.
I have a bit older 7900 sff and it's been working fine with a 60W GPU for years. It also has a BSEL (tape) modded Core2 Quad Q6600 @ 3.0GHz which uses more power than any of the officially supported Q8000/Q9000 series CPUs (also more than what the i5/i7 3rd gen in the 8300 would use).
@@Pasi123 currently running a low profile 1650 on the board, i7 3770. Due to Temps on the particular card the card is set to 80% max power draw with a 150 mhz overclock and a 200mhz reduction on memory. Runs brisk, runs fast and doesn't blow up xd
The M92P is a terrible choice, with a dual slot PCIE graphics card you will not be able to fit any other PCIE cards, wireless for example.. it's limited by it's PCIE slots so not a good choice..
I have a hp compaq 8300 elite is it possible to but a rx 570 in it
It would have to be a low profile version of the card
@@TechRoundUp Thanks for replying
are you sure it wil fit into my 240 watt powersupply I'm having seconds thoughts
So I recently got a HP Elitedesk 800 G1 with an i7. it has a small SSD for the operating system and a hard drive for everything else. You're saying if i install that graphics card, I should be able to run games smoothly? I don't need to buy anything for extra cooling or anything like that? I want this to be a budget PC, so I'm not to invest too much into this. And I don't expect to have off the charts performance or anything.
Yeah in that case maybe go for a GTX 1030 it will give you pretty decent performance in games like fortnite and valorant at lower settings
It will just have to be a low profile version
a gtx 1050 ti will run pretty well on low to medium graphics settings. It depends on the game really. Something like Post Scriptum of Hell let loose and you'll have a problem with lagging and you'll need 16GB of RAM.
I found a HP Prodesk for 50 bucks on eBay
So I just recently watched your video and bought the gpu but my pc gets a black screen and it shows the gpu on the pc but it's not working with the pc only shows a black screen for the second monitor, when I bootuo halo it's only using the Intel graphics card instead of the gtx any ideas on what could it be ?
Hmmmm, what GPU are you using?
@@TechRoundUp Gtx 1650 I overheard on the video that I need to change the motherboard and the power supply tho but, on my pc I managed to add a GT 1030
Either of those should be fine, as long as your connecting direct from the graphics card to the monitors with hdmi or DisplayPort you they should work. Driving two monitors shouldn’t cause a black screen. Are there any display driver updates for the GPU?
@@TechRoundUp I updated from windows and it showed the black screen in one monitor, I download the driver from the nvidia website still with the black screen, it's like the pc is accepting the gpu but it's not working with the pc so it would run games at high graphics, my guess is just to buy a new motherboard cuz on the video you said about the lenovo m92 to change the motherboard
Let me know how things work out
I got mine (non-sff 8300 with i7-3770) for 73 euros incl. shipping from a latvian online store, just so ebay could eat their own nutella
please a trust one in ebay to buy hp 800g1??