Why Formula 1 FAILED in New York
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Formula 1 has raced in a handful of location throughout the United States. But one place they have yet to host a race - despite numerous attempts - is within the New York metropolitan area. So, why has this been such an uphill battle for all involved?
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If only Renault raced here, yellow cars usually dominate new York.
As a New Yorker, plenty of the Taxi drivers should be in the WRC, one I was in one where all four wheels left the ground true story the roads here are vicous
Danny Sullivan drove taxi for a time in NYC but he couldn’t hack it .
Truuuuuu
Even ferrari, they do have the pace of a taxi
Better idea: Feature race where they all drive in those crown vic taxis, as is, 300k+ mi examples only.
I remember there was talks of a London GP lol
Lol would they have a CO2 tax on the f1 cars
London EGP
Bruuch
Not in a million years.
N one of the drivers wld prob get shanked midrace aswell😭😭
They would have a second pit garage where the drivers would need to get out run to a shop to pay the Congestion charge
@@karnakua8054 😭😭🤣🤣
Port imperial: fails to host a race.
Vietnam: ok, my turn.
@Brandon Devine Nah they have the money to blow so it'll stay as long as they pay. Korea never had the fans and the development plan around the track failed so the money dried up.
it sounds interesting. isnt the track supposed to be like super long?
@@firelynx1108 dunno. they haven't build it yet. No biggie to build one in 8 month's right? ....right?
@@OnionChoppingNinja i swore it said 30km track in an article somewhere, but that is longer than the nurburgring so idk
@@pyromcr its pretty same like Russian gp, because government itself agree to fund muneyy
F1: _I want to be a part of it!..._ 🎶🎵
New York: *no.*
bowman
Let me do one better New Jersey: We Ain't paying nothing (I live in west new york nj and politics is no joke)
Man ur everywhere even on f1 vids
You will be hacked into by bowman
F1 race around Times Square, with a layout like in GT4 would be sick.
That was one of my all-time favorite city tracks, I’d love to see F1 do something like that too
not possible. they changed the area to where some of the roads are now raised pedestrian areas. same reason i imagine the track didn’t appear after GT4.
Strenuous tedium. Seattle is still better
@@kinafermusic2456 Very similar layout was in Forza 3
YES I was thinking this too
As a Queens resident, a race in Flushing Meadows would actually be a decent idea. The park itself is pretty damn big, plenty of parking for fans since Citi Field and Arthur Ashe Stadium are down the street, and you still get that city skyline. Shame it fell through.
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Good evening, Thomas
The fact that a “New York” gp was planned in New Jersey makes sense because the New York Giants and New York Jets play in New Jersey as well
F1 should race in Los Angeles, and have drivers get stuck in the 405.
Unironically though, get a guy like Ricciardo on Street Outlaws and that would probably draw some attention to the sport from the car guys
The race would be red flagged for gangbangers shooting at the cars.
@@christianmarche993 Do you even live in LA? Just from your ignorant reply, you obviously don't. lol.
@@CowSaysMooFarms lived there for 2 years for work. Counted the minutes to be transferred back to NYC. L.A. and SoCal was like not like my like you know like like cup of tea like.
@@christianmarche993 It sounds like you were in the wrong neighborhood. Unlike New York, LA is an expansive "City". Santa Monica is very much different than Glendale or Echo Park, Silverlake, etc etc etc.
You can kind of argue similarity with Brooklyn MAYBE being part of NYC, but let's be real. You can basically walk from 5th Ave to the Brooklyn Bridge in about 1 and half hours.
As someone who lives 30 minutes from the track, and works 5 minutes from the track. I am still majorly disappointed
Lets be honest if F1 really wanted to break into the American market they wouldn’t have all the races start at 7 AM on a Sunday...
Make it a night race in NYC, americans would love that shit. Myself included. It will not happen but a man can dream.
Yea and on the West coast at 4am
7am on a sunday is actually perfect, not smack in the middle of the day and F1 is only 1.5 hours
at least for me
@@10Exahertz yeah but if you’re out late the night before/have church or some other in the morning forget it. It is nice sometimes, though.
@@spacemanjoe7074 me realizing I dont have a party life and thus am up at 7am on sundays :(
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Honestly either bring back Adelaide or Fuji, or start plans for a race in Africa, cause a race in NYC will just be another Monaco bore fest
Thank you pls bring to South Africa
Adelaide or Fuji yes. Although I want to see a race in my backyard before I see one in Africa. and if its made on the right roads in NY then it won't be like Monaco trust me.
I dont disagree, though adelaide in modern F1 cars is a stretch. I can’t see New York having good racing either unless they build a track in an open space like over at Floyd Bennet Field, an old air force base in brooklyn.
@@lucianomorano3394 while we do have fun roads with lots of elevation changes the only smooth ones are upstate
@@lucianomorano3394 hi luciano.
I was so hyped when Port Imperial was being discussed. The Coulthard Lincoln Tunnel video is amazing
I was gonna go to the first race... I live about 30 to 45 minutes from there. I was 7 years old at the time and if it were on da calendar I would go every year :(
I’m a sucker for a good Hindenburg reference 🤌🏻
I have a burning passion for those references
That reference was fire.
It gas without saying.
Lol
As an American, I do think that there should be a second race in the United States. Maybe not a third race, but definitely two. America is weird in the regard that it's unlike most other countries, where the country's morale changes across the country. It's not one nationality, but more sort of a few. The dynamic of people living in San Francisco may differ from the people living in Boston, to the people living in Indianapolis, to Miami, to New York, to Seattle, to Austin, the list goes on. There isn't one simple way to describe it, and you can't cover that idea of the United States in one race. This isn't me being a stuck-up proud poster-boy American, because I've heard other people say the same thing.
On a side note in terms of tracks where races can happen, there are quite a few options. None of them really are listed as Grade 1 by the FIA, but some of them might be close, and there are some great places to go for a race. We only currently have two tracks in the US listed as Grade 1, but there are FIFTEEN other tracks, at FIA Grade 2, that could be renovated and brought up to a Grade 1 specification. Some picks of mine could be Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course, Road America, Sonoma Raceway, Laguna Seca, or perhaps even a return to other tracks, like Watkins Glen and Long Beach. It could be interesting, and that could offer up some change to the tracks that we have on the calendar in the rest of the world now.
I'm not saying that I think we should get rid of COTA. It's a good track. But I think the only reason why it's not taking off is because of the fact that it's not something that us Americans are used to seeing when it comes to American road courses. It's very European, and since we Americans like things the way that we always had them made, we reject the modernity that is COTA for the most part. I think COTA will be here to stay for a while, but if we had to choose places to go that maybe would like an influx of money to being it up to higher standards that we need for F1, maybe F1 and the United States can make a long-lasting pact for classic races in the United States.
But we can't do it in just one...
Also holy HELL sorry for the TED Talk, but I'm just giving my two cents (for what it's worth, not like anyone influential will notice it) on what I think should happen in America, from a colonial's perspective. Sorry about the book report again.
Well, it's gonna be Miami and Austin this year, right?
@@mequana yep
in this regard there should be more tracks in the uk since it is 4 different countrys
@@Fraudkuna. go for it
They moved the site to New Jersey. Everything is legal in New Jersey.
Except pumping your own gas.
Nah fuck New Jersey.
As a new jerseyian please stay away from our terrible state for your own good
I agree with the top comment, stay away from New Jersey
source: I'm a New Jerseyian myself
Further source: fellow New Jerseyian, don't come here
I remember back in the old days Birmingham was meant to be the next Monoco...
I don't think you mean in Alabama ;)
Ahhhh the Superprix...
@@TheShockninja Barber MP does have Indy
@@TheShockninja if it was that would be absolute chaos but kinda cool
Josh: Talks about New York City
Me: Has the GTA III theme tune playing in my head
Gta 4
@@dodyaugust9918 I know GTA IV is a better game, but I prefer the theme tune to GTA III
I like GTA LCS theme more than GTA III imo.
I wonder how long it will take until F1 races in Pyongyang
About as long as it'll take for them to race in NYC or Vietnam.
they will never race there like litteraly
hahahah
The Pyongyang super speedway
Well, judging from F1’s recent decision to race in one of the countries known for the “love” towards human rights, cough cough Saudi Arabia, I guess F1 is a step closer to Pyongyang Grand Prix, if Big Man Kim decides to have a track built and pay them as much as Saudi Arabia did.
Would love to see them come back to Indianapolis. I know it's a long shot due to what happened but it would be awesome to see the fastest cars in the world return to the brickyard.
IndyCars are actually faster, if you're talking about top speed. They just accelerate slower and corner like dogshit compared to an F1 car.
@@freeski919 Okay, fastest cars in practice. IndyCars can have the pointless honor of being fastest in theory.
@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN Not really in theory though. They hit 240 MPH at Indy
@@James-vj5hz Yes, but F1 cars actually have to go around a lot of corners.
I like how you peeps argued over the oval layout when OP definitely meant the road course layout. 😂
New York City GP needs to happen, just imagine the helicopter skyline view during a race 😯
Enter the NYC Eprix! I love that race. Love the background. Only if Formula E put more effort in their broadcast...
If they were to add a second race in the US, I'd rather see it take place in a proper track in the middle of bumfuck nowhere like Road America in Wisconsin than on a street course on a flashy hip city.
So... Watkins glen?
I mean they already have a race in the middle of nowhere outside Austin Texas so a city would be a change and different in my opinion
Or just don't add second race in US
@@user-de4cq6uk6l COTA is right by the airport in Austin it has a great location
@@exiledrabbit I think it’s great too I’m just saying a street race would be different and good
Anyone else remember the New York Street track from GT4? That would make for a good race.
I remember (not so much the year) a feature Autosport magazine promoted where contributers suggested Street Circuits in the UK for use by F1. One of these was at Kingston upon Thames, which featured roundabouts as hairpins on a couple of occasions, a tunnel under the John Lewis Superstore and a bridge over the River Thames
I wanna see a Cape Town street circuit race tbh. Especially around the Waterfront area. Imagine table mountain in the background. I may have to make a video on this..
Don't they already have that Kyalami circuit, which is supposedly good?
@@mikespearwood3914 they do yes. But if that doesn't work out. A Cape Town street circuit would be pretty cool
Project Gotham Racing 4 for Xbox 360 back in the days, that game had many many NYC street circuits on it and they were actually really good, and demanding..it was sick storming through the Brooklyn Bridge back and forth with 230mph..
i loved those tracks in the game.
Gurantee it would never happen, but imagine an F1 race going through Times Square.
The Glen is an insane track. And I would love to see F1 there again
“The city that never sleeps! The city with rat infested subways! And the home of the Yankees! I don’t know what’s worse actually...”💀💀💀💀
come to think of it, using one of the subway lines as a temporary course might be an idea....
As a New Yorker, I felt like I was punched in the face about 15 times watching this.
Mean hey whats wrong with the yankees.....
@@bonda_racing3579 I'm a mets fan so everything
Yeah same I found it cool flushing meadows park was mentioned tho
Albert Park with a seizure, love it
I live just outside of NYC, I think a race would be great to have in the New York area but it’s a tricky thing to coordinate. A picturesque circuit in manhattan is pretty much out of the question with many of the tight streets so you would have to look at a circuit somewhere else. You would pretty much have to build a circuit from scratch and I think a place like Floyd Bennet Field could be a nice place for it but than you would have to build the whole circuit and New York being New York, you would probably need a subway line to it. But logistics wise, it’s right by the airport which is always a plus. So I would love to see it but the funding would be the main setback.
I mean, it wasn't actually going be in New York City, it was going to be in New Jersey and called "New York City" and I would have both called it the New Jersey GP and would have gone to the race, since it would have been a Formula One race in my home state
Edit: I don't know why the state of New Jersey didn't help fund the race, since it would have been an opportunity to put New Jersey on a global stage
I live in the Bronx and at the time I would’ve snatched your hand off for a GP in the NYC area but now I’m almost happy we’re don’t have it. Nyc got enough parking lots no need for a V6 era F1 race lol
As an american, I'd love a another race, especially in the east coast. I live near washington DC, and the closest grand prix is actually the canadian grand prix, with COTA being about 1000 miles further from me then gilles villeneuve
New Yorker here, couple of interesting things to add.
Mitchel Air Force base actually hasn't existed since the 50s. There are a couple of colleges (I went to one of them), a museum, and some other things there that the track would have been built around.
I'm not accusing anyone, but those small cities across the Hudson River are somewhat notorious for corrupt dealings regarding development projects.
Also, F1 isn't alone in failing to crack into the NYC metro area. Years ago, NASCAR attempted to build a track on Staten Island. And if I remember correctly, they bought some land between a landfill and a polluted waterway. Yeah, it went no where.
There should be a race in Chicago: Huge parks and museum campuses situated between a beautiful skyline and Lake Michigan.
They would have to repave so many roads and improve infrastructure. When has Chicago ever wanted to do that 😅
@@Bzking23 they maintain the parks fairly well
Nascar is in talks to put a race on the streets of Chicago after the new generation car makes its debut.
Hell I think a Midwest grandprix would work. Lotta people here love racing and would fork out some money
I'm from New Jersey, I remember them trying to plan this in the 2010's. Formula E makes it happen in Brooklyn. But F1 is a totally different animal. Also it would make sense for it to be in Jersey. Everything New York is actually from New Jersey. Statue of Liberty, yea that land is technically in NJ, the NY Jets and Giants, they play at Metlife, in New Jersey and the stadium they played in before that was right next to it, before being torn down. So planning something in New Jersey but saying it's New York is pretty common, just look at the the 2014 Superbowl that was at that same Metlife stadium in East Rutherford New Jersey, but all of the promos and logos had the empire state building and the freedom tower as if it was in New York. But hey, I can't blame them, the best view of New York is from New Jersey. That's why New Yorkers hate New Jersey cause we have all of their stuff and a great view of Manhattan, while all they have is a shitty view of New Jersey.
You are right!
That was pure gold man! Also from Jersey, Bergen County, I remember when they were planning it as well. I was pretty bummed out when it fell through. I went to Weekhaken to see Coulthard's test on the street which was super awesome. Great post!
@@ELcinegatto87 Jersey represent!!
actually went to the formula e race in red hook and it was really fun! the amount of warehouse space around the allowed car brands to set up cool experiences all around the neighborhood. Would love to see formula 1 in the same spot
Take F1 back to Watkins Glen!! It’s a great, old school track.
While I agree it'd be great to see F1 at Watkins Glen as a life-long New Yorker, it's only FIA Grade 2. Meaning Herman Tilke or someone else would need to "upgrade it" to FIA Grade 1 Standards for it to host F1. Do we really want Tilke ruining yet another race track? Especially given how it's one of the most popular tracks on the NASCAR schedule. I doubt NASCAR (who mind you owns The Glen) would want to make changes to it unless they were absolutely necessary. In particular, the Esses would probably need to be reworked, not to say they are a safety hazard but rather they'll be perceived as one.
Roger Penske, on the other hand, would probably happily welcome F1 back to Indianapolis. They did have an FIA Grade 1 license for the road course also before it expired in 2019. I doubt it'd be that difficult to get it ready for F1, especially now with the chicane to bypass speedway turn 1 to make a repeat of 2005 impossible. Hell, I'd wager he'd promote the race himself if he somehow couldn't find one
It's already a decent track nonetheless, I mean just compare it to that horrible Miami parking lot track.
Just hope Tilke won't ruin it.
There was talk of a Cape town race as well. Talk doesn't pay the bills
I would love a NYGP. I love an hour from the city so it would be great to go to GP that’s so close to me
Thanks for informing me of this Brooklyn race i didn't know about
Didn’t expect a Hindenburg reference in an F1 video.
I live right near the supposed track, basically 1 block away. So pissed this didn’t happen!
Josh: mentions Herman tilke
Everyone: nooooo, no god please no
Considering this would be by far my best chance to ever see a GP in person, yeah I'd really love if this could actually happen
I'm still hoping for that Miami Florida track we need that s***
Meeee too.
Just about to take a nap after a long week of work...got a notification of your new video and HAD to watch it!!!
They should race at St. Petersburg instead of Miami. the track gives amazing races in Indycar
I was literally just thinking this, plus we already have an IndyCar street circuit. Granted I don’t know a whole lot of the differences between the two series so I don’t know how F1 would be on that circuit or if it would need to be adjusted.
@Josh Revell plz
Nah.
Might be tricky getting the St Petersburg track up to FIA Grade 1 status.
hol' up, Indycar in Russia?
3:48 That sponsor segue gives me massive SAIDO CHESTO vibes
Dear Josh,
New York is also the home of the Mets. And we don't take lightly to being shunted to the side in favor of the Yankees alllll the time. I might "forget" to like this video because I am so upset now.
Regards
A Mets Fan close to tears
I lived in NYC, and used to rollerblade around the Central Park Loop(cuz I’m a badass). I always thought the Loop would make for a pretty sick race course.
Shoreline Drive in Long Beach, California is already updated for the next 🇺🇸 Grand Prix, Belle Isle Park in Detroit, Michigan for the next 🇺🇸 Grand Prix, Indianapolis Motor Speedway has a new chicane for the next 🇺🇸 Grand Prix, New tracks like the Streets of Baltimore, Maryland, Barbar Motorsports Park, Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course, Toronto Motorsports Park, the Streets of St. Petersburg, Florida The Streets of Nashville, Tennessee Auto Club Speedway of Fontana, California and the Streets of Miami, Florida
I agree with you
Formula 1 doesn't do IndyCar tracks, they make their own tracks from city streets and road courses
Up into time square then the roundabout near Central Park and through the south end then down the main straight into the Empire State Building and the rockerfeller
That’s awesome
as always things in NY is actually done in NJ lol
“Either Las Vegas or Miami”
Jokes on you, they’re getting both
"...the country that has ruined too many things..."
Could not have said it better myself 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
-Signed An American
Wow I live on Long Island I would’ve definitely gone to the GP in Hempstead if it was a thing
“Hosting a formula one race in New Jersey is the hardest thing to do besides parking airships.”
Ooohhh nooooooooooooo
As someone who lives in the area and has driven through the streets of the proposed F1 track, some history here:
- The shopping complex and parking garage that is where the pit complex would be originally was just a flat open-air parking lot. This is why they would have been able to put the infield complex there.
- This track would have an INCREDIBLE set of elevation changes. The east side of the track (where the frontstretch would be) is about 10 feet above sea level. The west side is on top of the Palisades (BTW, I've never heard it said the way Josh said it here... the second A tends to be long, not short, rhyming with "made") is at least 150 feet higher, if not more.
- If you check the map shown at around 3:15 and 5:11 in the video (of which the top is facing west, basically), the roadway on the left all the way to the end of the chicane is uphill. Think Eau Rouge at Spa with the top being like Turn 3 at Spielberg. The entire upper part of the roadway is Boulevard East, and then from that 90-degree right turn through to the hairpin on the lower-right is all steadily downhill (which is the area past the sewage treatment plant).
- The roadway from the hairpin to the west is 2 lanes each way and comportably wide, but the roads it turns onto after that, including the frontstretch, are not that wide, especially at this point. This may have changed in recent years due to construction, but those roads are one lane each way and significantly narrower. With the construction the way it is at that location, there is really no decent way to put a layout there anymore. The pit exit actually would be going right through at least one building in the area's current status.
Most of the housing in the area, especially the lower area, is all condominiums now. Much of that space was not as built up that long ago. Also, there are portions of the Boulevard East part of the track which only have a short sidewalk area and a short wall before what is basically a cliff face. It's this area which would give the most impressive views of the Manhattan skyline. However, one thing to note is that the most immediate view would be of central Manhattan, not the more famous southern part of Manhattan. The other side of the Boulevard East part of the track would be a mixture of single- and multi-family houses with a few apartments thrown in.
Oh, and for the American history buffs: The Weehawken Dueling Grounds, site of the Hamilton-Burr duel, is just south of the track on Boulevard East.
If anyone has any other questions about the area or whatnot, feel free to ask. I'll do the best I can to answer them.
Also their first mistake was trying to host something in NJ, nothing gets done in that State
I couldve had a race in my back yard basically but jersey isnt allowed to have anything nice
I mean I would like to see Indy on the schedule before Miami or Vegas
I'm from southern New Jersey and the 2012 season was the first time I watched every race in the season, and my mom is from Northern New Jersey (Montclair), not to far from Hackensack/Weehawken (one of the possible. locations of the "New York" GP.
I was so excited when I saw the original press releases, then I found out it was a fever dream that's been called off pretty much every year since the 1980s.
I'll just say it, I'm glad they sacked it off, give us Kyalami, and maybe 3 other tracks before the US needs a second
As a grumpy new yorker, my main response was “is this gona fxck up traffic like the UN?” I’m not looking forward to the word cup being in new york either. rabble rabble rabble!
As a upstate New Yorker, I would love for f1 to come into Watkins Glenn again, also, we don’t claim NYc
this is where i grew up in weehawken, nj i remember when this was supposed to happen.. wouldve been so cool
COME BACK TO INDYYYYY
3:52 Yeah and also maybe Skillshare should Have a class for track designing lol.
And who’d have thought Miami would get it?
As an American F1 fan I would love to see more F1 GPs in the states. I loved when they had the Long Beach GP and was sad to see it go. COTA is awesome but a street course in New York or another US metro city would be cool. Maybe go back to Vegas? Just not in the parking lot of Caser's Palace
There's so many better places in the states to host. Ex LA or Sebring.
If they decided to give Sebring the US gp, they would need to get rid of the old concrete from the old days of being a US ww2 air base, which I feel it would erase quite a bit of character to the track, and they maybe will end making it a hockemhring clone.
Laguna Seca comes to mind... would love to see F1 under negative G in the cork screw......
@@ihaveone6086 Grosjean has a video on his TH-cam channel of him testing at Laguna Seca and he said that the F1 car probably wouldn't be able to handle the corkscrew. His estimation is the nose sits too low and at the bottom of the corkscrew it would probably end up getting damanged.
@@johnsmithton292 but... the idea is interesting though.... roflmao.... they probably wouldn't make the corner in the first place... especially coz apex is hidden until you are upon it.... like a clever cop... you don't see him till you sit on him... lol
Do it in Philly! Kelly Drive and Fairmount Park East.
That would be mega. Isn't there a natural cave tunnel along that route? Or do it along the Ben Franklin Parkway with all the nation's flags lining the guardrails.
@@MostlyAutomotive48 The cave tunnel is part of an unused rail line. The city has long term plans/ideas to turn it into a bike/ped trail, but it would be super hard to access and very expensive to develop.
They could do a race in Buffalo, Rochester, or even Syracuse. (All of which are in New York)
Id love to see a race in NY. right around Central Park would be sick. I could watch from my apartment.
Answer: I don't know
you gotta get a pop filter for your mic and eq out the lows, my subwoofer bumps every time you talk lol
great video otherwise 🙌
get a f1 race at mid ohio "Ohioan Grand Prix"
I had a seizure while reading that Ohioan part, thanks.
As a new jersey resident, and only 10 minutes away from nyc in general. A race here would have been my dream
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Miami is so stoked for Formula 1, you have no idea how insane the South Florida car scene is.
1st possibly?
You are, I think
No one cares
@@alanthesuperhero No, I wasn't. Ahh well
I live and have grown up in New York. The number of people, lack of space, and noise issue would make it literally impossible to actually hold it in the city. It would have to be Long Island, or New Jersey or something. It also is just not car country. I am literally the only legit F1 fan I have ever known from NYC. I would not be surprised if a race would be met with protests about noise, pollution, and closures, kind of like when indycar tried to go to Boston. Not to mention the fact that the money used to put it up could be used much more effectively to fix public transit or help the homeless. FE works because it is a much smaller track, venue, and has no noise issue. Most New Yorkers don’t even know it exists. I just could not see an F1 race actually happening in the big apple. As much as I personally would love it, the city itself would hate it, and rightly so.
Didn't knew there was an plan for an F1 race and I unknowingly was there for a couple of second as I was on my way to that Japanese market.
The New Jersey GP would have been amazing, that track looked amazing on paper :D
I'm from Staten Island and I had never heard that it was looked considered for an F1 race.
f1 has planned to host races in almost every country in the world but never happened here are some of that countrys and its cities like algeria, australian gp in sydney, belarus in minsk, bulgaria, chile, croatia, cuba, denmark, egypt, finland, french gp in paris, german gp in berlin, greece, indonesia, ireland, israel, jamaica, new zealand, netherlands gp in amsterdam, north korea, norway, poland, qatar, russian gp in moscow, chez, spanish gp in madrid, swedish gp in stockholm, thailand and as you mentioned new york city and also virginia, lousiana, orlando, florida, california and north carolina and also canadian gp in toronto.
my buddy lives here and was around when this happened. the contract was ripped up becasue the bridge wasnt stable enough for f1.
I think that with two dates, it should rotate a bit. Go to Long Beach. Go to New York. Go to Miami. But, stay at COTA. Let that one date be the same year on year but let the other tour the country with a variety of venues and such.
Based on the way American cities are designed, road tracks aren't an option inside city limits and scenery is unbelievably bland outside of them. Permanent circuits are really the only option
Hempstead is 15 minutes from me. That would have been so cool to see an F1 race there.
I’m a new Yorker and would’ve loved going out to see the races
I lived there and driven that port imperial route everyday. It would be a cool circuit and the view is second to none
While I'm not a fan of multiple races in a single country, a very solid case can be made for the US. It's an affluent country with decent circuits, great facilities, a lot of fans, and the country also spans an immense geographic area. That said, if the circuit added/chosen is anything *other* than the Indianapolis road course, it would be a farce. Indy isn't just unique; with the exception of 05, it has consistently produced some of the most exciting races on the calendar (at a time when overtaking was scarce). I would honestly trade COTA for Indy without a moment's hesitation.
I just want F1 to go back to the Indianapolis Road Course. It seems good races usually happened at the track, yet the race most think of anymore is the 2005 event when 14 cars withdrew before the start. I'd love for them to return next year with the new car, and create better memories.
As a NYC resident, I was really excited in 2012. Quite bitter was my disappointment.
Let’s get back to Watkins Glen NY!! Hasn’t been here since 1980