Red Flood may be one of the most interesting gaming concepts of all time, the wealth of knowledge one gets from looking into it's world and researching it's concepts takes one everywhere from Russian Futurism to Catharism to Technocracy to Objectivism and other ideologies many never heard of.
@@Pomen Got at least two and a half chapters done. I struggle with professionalism but I've been getting better with ever chapter. You don't need to be the next Tolkien or Herbert to write a good book.
@@Pomen About three and a half chapters, sorry it's taking long it's a pretty big book, and still finding space for free time. I'll let you know when it's finished. Thanks for asking by the way.
I absolutely loved this video. I myself am russian, read a lot of futurist poems etc and I must say, your video captured the spirit perfectly. I think that another way to conway the idea of futurism is to show their manifest "Пощёчина общественному вкусу" (slap in the face to public taste), which (as you probably know) talks about throwing out all the previous writers, poets etc from the "steamship of the future" among other things. I think it perfectly discribes their almost scientific proudness. I could talk for hours about the silver age of russian literature, but even here I got to know some new interesting stuff, and I loved the fact that you described not only futurism itself, but also the bordering things. Thanks a lot! P.S. I really appreciate you trying to pronounce the names, you did a great job, but 1 remark - the "ch" in Chlebnikov is pronounced as "kh" (as in horse), not as "ch"
Thank you very much! I enjoyed making this video quite a lot and learned a lot. There is so much one can cover in the " silver age of Russian literature". I kinda fell in love with the silver age. I am simping for Natalja Gontjarova
@@Pomen i'm watching this at 3 am in my boarding school, surrounded by books about polish, russian and ukrainan futurism. By stars above you have no idea how stimulating this is. Thank you for your content 💜
This video is great overall, but there are some flaws. You could say futurism died with Mayakovsky, but it took a while for futurism to fade away after the revolution. At least 4/5 years. Also Mayakovsky shot himself in the chest, not in the head. His funeral was attended by thousand of people in Moscow. While there is no denying that his depression was made worse by the deception with the soviet union regime under Stalin, his personal life was a mess at this point. Mayakovsky really believed in the revolution, so I dont think its fair to say he "tried to work with it", more so that the flaws it was showing were slowly taking a toll in his hope for the vision he had. But yeah, good video. Ps: Stalin used Mayakovsky's popularity after his death, but only the poems where he would praise the communist regime, as you said in the video. That lead to him being taught in school and a lot of people hate him because he is associated with the "propaganda art", this left a big part of his work to be ignored by people who dont particularly enjoy poetry and dont try to learn more about him. A good example is the poems Лиличка and Послушайте, altough nowadays people do tend to know them.
Interesting errors and tidbits 03:05 I say it is about geometric form twice. I am looking into it in the editor and it is not there. For some reason, it became double on youtube, Big Think. 08:01 ya that is on me. That is how I record it. I say my sentences and then cut out the in-between. The other thing I want to talk about is what I should have in the video. Vladimir Majakovskij's death is a bit more complicated. It ended during a complicated relationship with Polonskaya. She left the house and he shot himself in the head when she was just outside. He did write a goodbye poem. We don't fully know his reasons so people speculate. I will just call it depression because you don't shot yourself in the head otherwise. But was it because of his lover or Stalin, we don't fully know. His death was talked about for years to come in the USSR so I don't want to dwell too much into it. Used the Swedish name first, I changed it now
@@Pomen I believe I would have to say that he could be considered A proto-fascist thinker even if I am correct Valois creating the first fascist organizations in France and I have always had an interest in fascism origins
The analysis of Mayakovski completely misses the point. His communist convictions are neither unrelated to his futurist art nor something he adopted out of conformism. He was active in the socialist movement since his teens and a Bolshevic since 1909 or so. Later he withdrew from Party activity to focus on writing, but according to his own autobiography he was very consciously trying to create Socialist Art. In the first years of soviet rule, Mayakovski was closely associated to a milieu of artists who tried to create works that were both stylistically innovative and accessible to the working class. He did of course criticize the soviet boureaucracy, but this is also true for many revolutionaries who saw it as a diversion from the road to communism ( and they were right, in my view). Anyway, one can agree or disagree with Mayakovski's politics, but a narrative that divides him into " good artist Mayakovski" and " bad communist Mayakovski" cannot grasp the essence of his work.
The part about socialist realism is entirely inaccurate! Socialist Realism was only established as the official art style of the soviet union in 1934, Mayakovsky died in 1930. The futurists did not wither out due to opression, but due to its members slowly integrating into the Russian avant-garde, or because they died, like Khlebnikov in 1922.
Somewhat agree. The Social Realism part is more about the essence of art of the soviet era more than the actual state official style. Why Mayakovsky started doing socialist propaganda for art. So yes you are correct, my wording is a bit wrong. With the dying part. It is the weakest part. I honestly find the mayakovsky part of the video the weakest overall. I don't explain in detail what happened to most people. Most of them just either died of natural cause of moved. But the art movement did die out. I do wish to blame the revolution for that. There was some focus on it after the revolution, but little by little it was gone. The "dying" part feels more of a critic on Maksim Gorkij. I do need to read up and even do a video on him. But Correct me if I am wrong, the people Gorkij went to uni with was all killed off. Gorkij's work and the idea of art for socialism became the norm, if you went against it you die
The attack on 'formalism' started in the late 20s and Mayakovsky committed suicide four days after his play The Bathhouse got attacked in the press. Futurists such as Sergei Tretyakov ended up in prison and died, accused of 'trotskyism'. So the artists were opressed, no question of it.
@@Ymikael that is absolutely correct. However, the rest of the avant-garde was just as oppressed as the futurists, and it was a trend amongst futurists to slowly move away from their ideas and shift into other segments of the avant-garde. The oppression part therefore is not an entirely sufficient cause for the disappearance of russian futurism.
th-cam.com/video/J-YGPnrlyR8/w-d-xo.html There is a museum in Russia that goes into this. Here is a good video going into more detail about what I said.
Social realism was not implemented directly and forcefully. Futurism in it Russian appearance was part of the general Russian avant-garde even until the 1930. In fact, I do not know only ONE artist of Russian avant-garde being killed. You even say that Mayakovsky killed himself and that Stalin liked his Art, so why are you saying at the same time, that artists when they did not get away from that would get killed? It does not make sense, apart from that I liked your video.
In 1932, Stalin closed down independent artists' unions; former avant-garde artists had to adapt to the new climate or risk being officially criticised or even blacklisted. Petrograd State Institute of Artistic Culture, which was forced to close in 1926 after a Communist party newspaper called it "a government-supported monastery" rife with "counterrevolutionary sermonizing and artistic debauchery." The Soviet state was by then heavily promoting an idealized, propagandistic. I never said that Russian futurists were killed. Just that they had to stop. But people who went against the state often times died. Mayakovsky got depressed, but there are many other rumours such as his Girlfriend killed him or the state killed him. But it is barely any evidence for that. Also if you give me a Wikipedia page, I do recommend reading about the different artists to see what happened. Social realism was pushed and many art forms and art institutions were blacklisted or closed down. From the time of the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917 until 1932, the historical Russian avant-garde flourished and strove to appeal to the proletariat. However, in 1932 Stalin's government took control of the arts with the publication of "On the Reconstruction of Literary-Artistic Organizations"; a decree that put artists' unions under the control of the Communist Party. Two years later, Stalin instituted a policy that unified aesthetic and ideological objectives, which was called Socialist Realism, broadly defined as art that was, "socialist in content and realist in form." Moreover, the new policy defined four categories of unacceptable art: political art, religious art, erotic art, and "formalistic" art, which included abstraction, expressionism, and conceptual art. Beginning in 1936, avant-garde artists who were unable or unwilling to adapt to the new policy were forced out of their positions, and often either murdered or sent to the gulag, as part of Stalin's Great Purges.
@@Pomen I never said that social realism was not heavely pushed amd that that the state was repressiv, I just said that there us no evidence for artist being killed or send to gulag if they did not cooperate. I send you a Wikipedia Article with a list of known russian Avantgarde artists and not one of these was killed.
Здесь довольно много уникальных и интересных людей, живших до коммунистического переворота. Меня просто очень интересует уникальность идей и воли. Я снял видео о большем количестве россиян и даже планирую сделать еще больше. Я считаю, что помнить историю важно.
@@Pomen , в России этим мало кто занимается. Культура стала достоянием академического сообщества, но оно, в массе своей, эмигрировало в связи с относительно недавними событиями. Либо вынуждно молчать. О чём говорить, если даже Достоевский попадает под запрет из-за новых законов. Русскую культуру сгубили семьдесят лет «социалистического реализма». Представляешь, что это вообще за "литература"? Для Сталина уже Золя - авангардист.
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Red Flood may be one of the most interesting gaming concepts of all time, the wealth of knowledge one gets from looking into it's world and researching it's concepts takes one everywhere from Russian Futurism to Catharism to Technocracy to Objectivism and other ideologies many never heard of.
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Yet again Pomen covering the things most channels ignore
First I guess,real futurist spirit!
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It's funny because the ideals Soviet futurism actually became a large inspiration of the book I'm writing.
OH. how far along are you?
@@Pomen Got at least two and a half chapters done. I struggle with professionalism but I've been getting better with ever chapter. You don't need to be the next Tolkien or Herbert to write a good book.
@@warsharkproductions6550 How far along are you now?
@@Pomen About three and a half chapters, sorry it's taking long it's a pretty big book, and still finding space for free time. I'll let you know when it's finished. Thanks for asking by the way.
@@warsharkproductions6550 is it finished
Yes I’ve been waiting for this
I absolutely loved this video. I myself am russian, read a lot of futurist poems etc and I must say, your video captured the spirit perfectly. I think that another way to conway the idea of futurism is to show their manifest "Пощёчина общественному вкусу" (slap in the face to public taste), which (as you probably know) talks about throwing out all the previous writers, poets etc from the "steamship of the future" among other things. I think it perfectly discribes their almost scientific proudness.
I could talk for hours about the silver age of russian literature, but even here I got to know some new interesting stuff, and I loved the fact that you described not only futurism itself, but also the bordering things.
Thanks a lot!
P.S. I really appreciate you trying to pronounce the names, you did a great job, but 1 remark - the "ch" in Chlebnikov is pronounced as "kh" (as in horse), not as "ch"
Thank you very much!
I enjoyed making this video quite a lot and learned a lot. There is so much one can cover in the " silver age of Russian literature". I kinda fell in love with the silver age. I am simping for Natalja Gontjarova
I am absolutly in love with your content and everything you represent
Thank you! I feel so loved right now :) Glad you like it
@@Pomen i'm watching this at 3 am in my boarding school, surrounded by books about polish, russian and ukrainan futurism. By stars above you have no idea how stimulating this is. Thank you for your content 💜
Wow! How come you are surrounded by futurism. Anything special you would like to see in the future, I could do more vids about futurism.
Keep up the good work brotha.
Noroc! Cheers
I feel so sorry for Majakovskij.
Wow that voice sounds like the white wizard trying to make the mountain fall on Gandalf
Goncharova's Everitingism could be interesting in RF
Yes. She feels so underrated, but she did a lot of good work.
Good work!
Amazing video ! I am definitely subscribing for more 👌
Thank you! There is alot more to come.
Didn't know eminem was Russian
Snap back to reality, ope there goes the past!
This video is great overall, but there are some flaws. You could say futurism died with Mayakovsky, but it took a while for futurism to fade away after the revolution. At least 4/5 years. Also Mayakovsky shot himself in the chest, not in the head. His funeral was attended by thousand of people in Moscow. While there is no denying that his depression was made worse by the deception with the soviet union regime under Stalin, his personal life was a mess at this point. Mayakovsky really believed in the revolution, so I dont think its fair to say he "tried to work with it", more so that the flaws it was showing were slowly taking a toll in his hope for the vision he had. But yeah, good video.
Ps: Stalin used Mayakovsky's popularity after his death, but only the poems where he would praise the communist regime, as you said in the video. That lead to him being taught in school and a lot of people hate him because he is associated with the "propaganda art", this left a big part of his work to be ignored by people who dont particularly enjoy poetry and dont try to learn more about him. A good example is the poems Лиличка and Послушайте, altough nowadays people do tend to know them.
Interesting errors and tidbits
03:05 I say it is about geometric form twice. I am looking into it in the editor and it is not there. For some reason, it became double on youtube, Big Think.
08:01 ya that is on me. That is how I record it. I say my sentences and then cut out the in-between.
The other thing I want to talk about is what I should have in the video. Vladimir Majakovskij's death is a bit more complicated. It ended during a complicated relationship with Polonskaya. She left the house and he shot himself in the head when she was just outside. He did write a goodbye poem. We don't fully know his reasons so people speculate. I will just call it depression because you don't shot yourself in the head otherwise. But was it because of his lover or Stalin, we don't fully know. His death was talked about for years to come in the USSR so I don't want to dwell too much into it.
Used the Swedish name first, I changed it now
You should do video on Georges Valois
Tell me what you find the most interesting about mr. Valois?
@@Pomen I believe I would have to say that he could be considered A proto-fascist thinker even if I am correct Valois creating the first fascist organizations in France and I have always had an interest in fascism origins
The analysis of Mayakovski completely misses the point. His communist convictions are neither unrelated to his futurist art nor something he adopted out of conformism. He was active in the socialist movement since his teens and a Bolshevic since 1909 or so. Later he withdrew from Party activity to focus on writing, but according to his own autobiography he was very consciously trying to create Socialist Art. In the first years of soviet rule, Mayakovski was closely associated to a milieu of artists who tried to create works that were both stylistically innovative and accessible to the working class. He did of course criticize the soviet boureaucracy, but this is also true for many revolutionaries who saw it as a diversion from the road to communism ( and they were right, in my view). Anyway, one can agree or disagree with Mayakovski's politics, but a narrative that divides him into " good artist Mayakovski" and " bad communist Mayakovski" cannot grasp the essence of his work.
Rabbi Pomen
The part about socialist realism is entirely inaccurate! Socialist Realism was only established as the official art style of the soviet union in 1934, Mayakovsky died in 1930. The futurists did not wither out due to opression, but due to its members slowly integrating into the Russian avant-garde, or because they died, like Khlebnikov in 1922.
Somewhat agree. The Social Realism part is more about the essence of art of the soviet era more than the actual state official style. Why Mayakovsky started doing socialist propaganda for art. So yes you are correct, my wording is a bit wrong.
With the dying part. It is the weakest part. I honestly find the mayakovsky part of the video the weakest overall. I don't explain in detail what happened to most people. Most of them just either died of natural cause of moved. But the art movement did die out. I do wish to blame the revolution for that. There was some focus on it after the revolution, but little by little it was gone. The "dying" part feels more of a critic on Maksim Gorkij. I do need to read up and even do a video on him. But Correct me if I am wrong, the people Gorkij went to uni with was all killed off. Gorkij's work and the idea of art for socialism became the norm, if you went against it you die
The attack on 'formalism' started in the late 20s and Mayakovsky committed suicide four days after his play The Bathhouse got attacked in the press. Futurists such as Sergei Tretyakov ended up in prison and died, accused of 'trotskyism'. So the artists were opressed, no question of it.
@@Ymikael that is absolutely correct. However, the rest of the avant-garde was just as oppressed as the futurists, and it was a trend amongst futurists to slowly move away from their ideas and shift into other segments of the avant-garde. The oppression part therefore is not an entirely sufficient cause for the disappearance of russian futurism.
Another funny man named Velimir.
interesting.
th-cam.com/video/J-YGPnrlyR8/w-d-xo.html There is a museum in Russia that goes into this. Here is a good video going into more detail about what I said.
Many artista are...shady😂
Social realism was not implemented directly and forcefully.
Futurism in it Russian appearance was part of the general Russian avant-garde even until the 1930.
In fact, I do not know only ONE artist of Russian avant-garde being killed.
You even say that Mayakovsky killed himself and that Stalin liked his Art, so why are you saying at the same time, that artists when they did not get away from that would get killed?
It does not make sense, apart from that I liked your video.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_avant-garde here is a list with avant garde artists (not one of them was killed)
In 1932, Stalin closed down independent artists' unions; former avant-garde artists had to adapt to the new climate or risk being officially criticised or even blacklisted.
Petrograd State Institute of Artistic Culture, which was forced to close in 1926 after a Communist party newspaper called it "a government-supported monastery" rife with "counterrevolutionary sermonizing and artistic debauchery." The Soviet state was by then heavily promoting an idealized, propagandistic.
I never said that Russian futurists were killed. Just that they had to stop. But people who went against the state often times died. Mayakovsky got depressed, but there are many other rumours such as his Girlfriend killed him or the state killed him. But it is barely any evidence for that.
Also if you give me a Wikipedia page, I do recommend reading about the different artists to see what happened. Social realism was pushed and many art forms and art institutions were blacklisted or closed down.
From the time of the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917 until 1932, the historical Russian avant-garde flourished and strove to appeal to the proletariat. However, in 1932 Stalin's government took control of the arts with the publication of "On the Reconstruction of Literary-Artistic Organizations"; a decree that put artists' unions under the control of the Communist Party.
Two years later, Stalin instituted a policy that unified aesthetic and ideological objectives, which was called Socialist Realism, broadly defined as art that was, "socialist in content and realist in form." Moreover, the new policy defined four categories of unacceptable art: political art, religious art, erotic art, and "formalistic" art, which included abstraction, expressionism, and conceptual art. Beginning in 1936, avant-garde artists who were unable or unwilling to adapt to the new policy were forced out of their positions, and often either murdered or sent to the gulag, as part of Stalin's Great Purges.
@@Pomen I never said that social realism was not heavely pushed amd that that the state was repressiv, I just said that there us no evidence for artist being killed or send to gulag if they did not cooperate.
I send you a Wikipedia Article with a list of known russian Avantgarde artists and not one of these was killed.
@@Pomen😢
@froschberg05 denial much?
War thunder brought me here
Lol, how?
@@Pomen Mayakovsky’s name was on the decals of the USSR tank sections lol
Rabbi pomen
Video on the good topic, and what a bunch of ranted bullshit. Mister Bunin would be proud of you.
Так странно, что тебе вообще интересно это.
Здесь довольно много уникальных и интересных людей, живших до коммунистического переворота. Меня просто очень интересует уникальность идей и воли. Я снял видео о большем количестве россиян и даже планирую сделать еще больше. Я считаю, что помнить историю важно.
@@Pomen , в России этим мало кто занимается. Культура стала достоянием академического сообщества, но оно, в массе своей, эмигрировало в связи с относительно недавними событиями. Либо вынуждно молчать. О чём говорить, если даже Достоевский попадает под запрет из-за новых законов.
Русскую культуру сгубили семьдесят лет «социалистического реализма». Представляешь, что это вообще за "литература"? Для Сталина уже Золя - авангардист.
How strange that you are not