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Hello Guys and Happy Holidays! Commenting here on the off chance that you see this. Someone in the comment section mentioned that you have the "CC" subtitles on and that may have added to the confusion. I think you guys are much farther ahead already, and hopefully, this isn't too late... For Season 1. Love the reactions, super excited to re-live/love this amazing show through your reactions.
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Hey fellas just a tip cause idk how far ahead u are or if anyone has suggested this, but switch ur subtitles to English & not English (cc). I've heard several folks fluent in the language say u get a more accurate translation cause they've noticed discrepancies. Also, Oak I believe u are correct w this game & I do think the subtitles were lil confusing. So glad yall are watching this crazy, fun, engrossing show! It's so good!! This moment blew my mind too losing 3 characters in one moment, but wow does this show cont to be amazing!! Fyi, I think imo that all the tools in the beginning were not for the game & were in fact if they work together to take the headsets off. Why else so many screwdrivers & clamps! Excited for the journey fellas!! Hope u all had a wonderful Christmas w ur fam & friends!!❤💞❤️
no oak is right about the rule of lambs hiding.. the rule seemed confusing at the beginning but in the end, the rules were right. The lambs hid but not "from" the wolf but "for" the wolf. The games are just too brilliant. They knew the survivors guilt amongst friends would be too much too handle for them in the end
This episode shocked the hell out of me. The whole time I was convinced Arisu would somehow think their way out of the game and find a loophole, because how can 3/4 of our main character group die in the third episode? Did not see it coming. Then I wondered how on Earth they could make the rest of the show work without all our characters, but let me tell you this is just the start.
@TheRealBillix That's what happened in the manga too, and that's exactly this game that made me remember that I read it a long time ago before the series was out.
"Hide sheep so the wolf won't find you." Remember Arisu and Karube were told previously that hearts games were about *betrayal* so the whole team went in with that in mind. But the game was never actually about that, hearts are purely *psychological* games. They, and the audience, misread the instructions/think they don't make sense and jump to the wrong conclusion. The game, from the very beginning, was about sacrifice- the sheep hiding would only ever come about in the circumstance of them choosing the wolf to live and it knew that. *Also the tools at the start were another ploy to make them think the wrong thing, the previous games have naturally made them jump to violence first. But it's more likely that the tools really were there to take the headsets off and if they had worked together they'd have been able to figure it out- don't forget Chota was good with electronics too. The fact that the game makes a point to say they can use the tools, and never specifies that they can't fiddle with the headsets makes me feel there was another way, which only adds to the heartbreak. Arisu was probably on the right track, but he was struggling to cut it himself- the device is probably purpose built to be removed by someone else if the team works together.
i think its too risky to try do anything with collars because anytime laser can pew-pew them, but if we see a mind game here, i am wondering if wolf do a sucide then what happens, do all remaining 3 wins or they all die because no can be next wolf.
@@utkarshsharma2433 yeah definitely risky to try things with the collars, but spoilers below: There's a game in season 2 that also doesn't explicitly say that you can't remove a device (armband)- and they end up removing one in order to win. Whilst other games specify removing it means death. The games are always very clear about the rules, this is why I think there was a chance these ones could have been removed as they didn't specify they couldn't.
Yeah, when I was watching it, the first thought came I my mind is since they were all friends they should try to talk out of it, try to do something with collar, there's literally a drill and a hacksaw there, but that's the drama of a webseries, also that wristband move was so unexpected. What do you think, I wolf would've done suicide, then what?
I mean it make sense now because we know the person who create this game . Don't wanna spoil it if person who reading this haven't watch season 2. It make sense now for the "Hide sheep so the wolf won't find you."
"little urgency in high tension situations"...y'all have NO idea how accurate this description of Chishiya is gonna be in the later episodes LMAO. for those who know...Hands in pockets was INSANE
Kento Yamazaki's performance throughout this show is truly something to behold. He really shines in this episode, but even more so going forward. Perfect casting, these series would not be what it is without his brilliant acting.
To me it’s also heartbreaking that Karube can’t even look at Arisu as he says his thanks and goodbye. If he does, he would become the world and survive. So the last time he saw him was when he was literally going to kill Arisu. And that hurts
I think you got confused bcz of the subtitles 12:03 In the correct subtitles she literally says "There's a flaw in this game. If the wolf survives, there's no point to the lambs hiding"
We all got confused for a second, but I got the rules when they all started to think about their friendship, the phrase "hide well sheep" AND so the line "heart games mess with your heart" I understand what they were doing....
"If I'm a wolf I'm not going to try to find a lamb" okay well, that's what Arisu did, he wanted to find a lamb so they can live. This game is specifically made for friends.
As a translator, there's a HUGE difference between the translation and closed captions, that being the emphasis on description of sounds for closed captions. For CC you need to sacrifice even more words to fit in the 6 second rule for those reading. So yeah, I'm hoping they switch to the translated subtitles only soon!
@@KWExploretheworld The closed captions are the subtitles for the English dub. I watched all of Squid Game and didn't think anything was wrong with the subtitles because I don't know any Korean. But I know a few phrases in Japanese so I noticed it with Alice in Borderland when they'd say something that I understood but it wasn't what the subtitles said. I switched it to dub to test it and the subtitles said exactly what I was hearing
@@dsimi415 Japanese speaks very fast, which sometimes is too fast for English speakers. For dubs, they have to change the original conversation so as to fit in the English conversation within a few seconds. Turns out they couldn’t use literal translation as that wouldn’t fit in the limited time. So they’ve changed the whole phrase/sentence/expression for the dubs with cc. Dubs are so bad that it’s like they’ve written a whole different scripts for the show, changing or even twisting the original meaning in Japanese. The English subtitles are definitely more accurate.
@@KWExploretheworld Oh no, don't get me wrong. I was just saying that's why the CC is so off because it's the subtitles for the English version and not a translation of the Japanese. I wasn't trying to say to watch with CC and I most certainly wasn't trying to imply the dub is better or even good. I didn't know at the time if that's what the CC actually was, it was just a theory in my head so I first switched between the CC and the English subs and noticed they said different things so then I turned on the CC and switched it to dub literally just to check. Once I confirmed it, I switched it straight back to Japanese and put on the actual translation
I agree. One of the reasons is that Japan produces works with low budgets and does not focus on overseas promotion. This is in stark contrast to South Korean works, which receive financial support from the government.
The acting isn't great man. Every emotion is severely exaggerated as is typical of Japanese acting. Nobody screams and screams and screams and keeps screaming. Less is more.
@@Garbowhat Less is not always more. I am pretty sure in those situations everyone will act differently. If your best friend died right in front of you like that, and you were trying to save him. Would you shrug and walk away? Probably not.
the rules never said to kill the lamb it just said for the sheep to hide well because the genre of the game was hearts so it was to twist with connections and relationships so that’s why this episode was so gut wrenching for a lot of people because everyone was confused why the sheep had to hide if being the wolf would mean you win, when actually is it really winning if the people you’re closest to are eliminated from the game, that is traumatising
This, the rules seems confusing because theres a meaning to it. The lambs are supposed to hide to show that they all care for each other. If its the other way around, it would look like the wolf and the lambs are selfish people who want to live.
Heart games makes you forget how to solve a game logically. These psychological effects with „only one person can live“,these weapons on the table, how the question was interpreted, the 15min timer etc. Everything was made like this to make it seems twisted and blind you from solving this puzzle…. Truly a heart game lol
In the manga, 7 of Hearts plays almost the same way with two key differences. The first one being the climax. When Arisu announces he'll withdrawn from the game, he stays at the entrance to give the wolf to whoever wishes to get it. Both Karube and Chota firmly declare they're not going. Shibuki quickly rushes toward him, but then abruptly stops. After witnessing their selflessness even in a moment of desperation, she shows the courage to make the sacrifice, choosing to hide once again. It's only when there are a couple of minutes left that Arisu goes to look for everyone, panicking and begging them to come out. In the end, all three thank him for everything, asking him to carry on for them before dying. The second one, 7 of Hearts is one of the two games we witness to have an additional reward besides the Visa days. In this case, it was a cooked piece of mutten for the winner. This, of course, has two different interpretations, and for Arisu, it was a way of mocking him for having lost his friends by rubbing more salt on the wound. Because of this, he ends up burning the entire place down in a rage and falls on the streets, succumbing to a huge depression. --- Heart games are psychological games, having the purpose of testing players' resolve, beliefs, and desire to live. However, because they often tend to show someone's true colors, they gained the infamous reputation of "games where you play with others' hearts", manipulation and betrayal. This created a negative effect on players, because now instead of calmly thinking of a solution that could benefit everyone, they're all just fighting for themselves. The meaning of the rules can change depending on the way the players choose to tackle the game, so I don't think any of them were wrong for thinking the wolf had to kill the sheeps, that was just another way to go about it if any of them were to let their desperation for survival consume them, because at the end of the day, none of them were punished for attacking themselves, if you pay attention. That's why I said the piece of mutten has two different interpretations, the other one being, you're just a hungry wolf killing for their own survival. 7 of Hearts is one of the most debated games in the community, because to this day there hasn't been a single fool-proof way of beating it without losing any players. The most reasonable theory revolves around the sheep cutting the wolf's collar to disable it using the tools given to them at the entrance. The collar wouldn't explode, because the wolf isn't at risk of dying. Once that's done, they would pass the wolf to a sheep and repeat the process, leaving the last player to keep the wolf and just wait for the game to end. This could also be hinted at the start, where the sheep are drawn behind the wolf, suggesting them to dismantle the collar, not to actually hide from them. This game is the reason why I said I don't like the adaptation antagonizing Shibuki. In the show, Chota basically forces her to accept her death, as they clearly show her struggling to get away, contrary to the source material, where she willfully accepts to let Arisu be the one to survive, showing not only her growth, but that she genuinely cared for the three of them in what little time they shared together. However, I very much enjoy the inclusion of Arisu reminiscing on the good times he had with his friends and how much they mean to him in the show, since we don't have his internal monologues and flashbacks to put those pieces together. The pain of losing the only people that kept him anchored to the world is extremely heartbreaking, and it doesn't matter whether manga or live action, 7 of Hearts never fails to make me cry.
As always, The Oak got it right. He’s got the highest EQ. The lambs have to hide because this is a hearts game- the lambs have to choose the survivor and willingly sacrifice their life. If it were a club’s game, then Mason would be right. The lambs would have to work together to kill the wolf.
Arisu has one of the most heart-wrenching screams in all of media. I was chilled to the bone when I first saw this episode; 10/10 acting and 10/10 storytelling. I'm so excited to see your reactions to the rest! 😄
Explaining the rules of the game: Initially, the instructions say that the lamb must hide from the wolf, and the wolf must find a lamb to become a lamb, but then the instructions say that the lambs that remain in the end will lose the game, making the idea of “hide and seek” inverted. However, this is a hearts game, so the rules were made so that the people who are playing the game choose to sacrifice themselves. At the end, as in the instructions, the wolf (arisu) was looking for the lambs to give his life to them, but they were hidden. Basically, the rules were made for the survivor to feel guilty for the death of others.
from a reddit post: "I think the idea of this game is that your perspective changes as you play it specifically with your friends. You start off wanting to be the wolf and survive. But realise that means your friends die and you live. As you all play your view on the game shifts, the sheep hide because they want to sacrifice themselves for you, and you hunt as the wolf because you want to do the same for them. That’s what makes it a tough hearts game and it’s why they showed it played with friends rather than just a random group where there’s no emotions really involved. It’s also why the area you play in is set up so that it’s so easy to hide."
This ep hits hard because in the two previous we've seen Arisu outsmarting the system and getting his friends out of trouble, so we naturally imagine that it will keep happening despite the games getting harder...because we CAN'T lose as many important characters so soon and at the same time, can we? They went for the throat with this one, literally.
this episode breaks your heart. i remember being shocked by these deaths. i didn't expect characters who seemed to be main characters to die so soon. in reality it's not like that, even if their death will affect arisu a lot. anyway one episode a week is not enough. I want another one already 😂. thanks for the video!
Guys I hope you read this comment 🤞🏻🤞🏻 The subtitles u guys have are not accurate bcz instead of just eng u have Eng CC on , which are the subtitles for the dub version. Thus they change a lot of dialogues. It's the same for every non English series so just a tip ALWAYS CHECK THAT ITS NOT CC
I second this, just as an example, they have watched till ep 6 on Patreon & and at the end of ep 6 they said "oh all 58 players" and I was so confused, bcz it was never mentioned in my subtitles ( since it's timer and u have to have ur own screen) but then I realized they have Eng CC
24:44 The point of the lambs hiding was to sacrifice themselves for the wolf to survive. As they were all friends Chota and Karube sacrificed themselves so that Arisu could survive. It was a heart game so it was designed that way to play with their relationship.
You wanna go into games with your friends because then you have people on your side that you can trust. Sadly, because there are hearts games, it can backfire on you like this.
Arisu's screaming at the end..... I remember watching this when it came out on Christmas day. I was so traumatized lol but I love this show so much!!!!!
It doesn't matter if they showed up as friends or strangers. Strangers situation: 3 lambs would team up and kill the wolf because only the wolf can survive. Now it's a battle royale situation. Friends situation: Nominate a wolf to survive and sacrifice yourself.
You guys haven't noticed the ending. This episode is brilliant. The shot at the end shows that he really became a wolf. Blood all over his face, teeth showing and howling. It shows in a way that he did kill his lambs(friends) as a wolf
Shibuki was the sole survivor in her first game, then died to create another sole survivor in her last game. A detail that they don't mention is that both of those were heart games (her first game was 2 of hearts, and this was 7 of hearts).
Liked Quinn's hand gesture at 4:14 hehe☺ as soon we see it was a hearts game ya just knew hearts would be broken, i teared up when i first saw this eps of his friends reminiscing & that line "live for us" you could really feel Arisu's pain with those screams, i found your in depth post discussions about the game so fascinating, shows how invested you all are with this show & it's characters & Quinn's right that it wasn't a gory death for big shock value, it was one that's very emotional & meant something, a very powerful episode, so glad you're all enjoying this show so much! 😊❤💚💙
Karube has already foreshadowing their death in episode 1... he said that if the apocalypse really happen, Arisu will be the only one of them who survive because he will outsmart the situation.
Oak is right. That’s how you find the true wolf in sheep’s clothing. There are 2 outcomes of this hearts game: If the lambs choose to sacrifice, the wolf lives. (This current outcome, they choose who lives.) If they are all strangers or friends who really don’t care about each other, they will kill each other (thus the weapons) so that the last one will survive (that is the true wolf hiding in sheep clothing). It’s a game of trying to reveal your true nature. Are you for yourself or for friends?
It's confusing because they purposefully inverted the normal troupe of the game. Usually, the wolf hunts and the lambs hide because the wolf is going to kill the lambs. But in this game the wolf hunts and the lambs hide out of love, to save each to save the other. The lambs had to collectively pick one person they were willing to die for. It's the type of game that only works if you have deep love for the others in your group. Otherwise, it would turn into the lambs hunting to wolf in order to stay alive.
I thought the same thing about the reflection when I saw Arisu staring at his....but he would have to make simultaneous eye contact with everyone which is impossible IF the game would even allow that :/ I've finished all 2 seasons now, and every single game I tried to out think or find the twist. Sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't...loved the strategy breakdown at the end, and great reaction guys 🤘
In a clear cut way of understanding it’s literally just inverted hide and seek where the person who is it “the wolf” hides and if he wins, he survives. However, the line saying if you’re a lamb to stay hidden and don’t let the wolf find you is for those who caught onto the game that in order for the wolf to win, you have to sacrifice yourself = so stay hidden
✨ *As a manga reader, them dying is also shocking. Like I really thought they were all the main charas till the end. The live action captured the terror as well. Kento Yamazaki's crying scream is one the best agonizing screams I've ever heard!*
the 'hide well little lambs' moment is so well done, I cry every time. This episode does a really good job at making you feel like no one is ever safe, which is good in a show like this. excited to (re)watch the rest with you :)
Episode 3, the episode no one will ever forget. Pure cinematic trauma moment. Arisus scream made everything even worse, just imagine how this moment feels for him🥲
@32:00 How i interpreted the game of hearts being convenient for these 4 friends: It was pure chance. The nature of the game of hearts relies on the assumption that most people have morals, so it wouldn't matter if the group who showed up to the 7 of hearts were friends or not, as the winner would have to grapple with the fact that they effectively killed 3 other people to stay alive (hence the table of weapons). That sort of guilt is what makes a game of hearts so trying. The fact that the 4 who did show up were friends made that choice that much more difficult for the winner.
Think of it like this: If you’re not friends. It’s more like the lambs should all be hunting the wolf. Reverse hide and seek/tag. However, “hearts” is more of a… it hurts your heart or emotional challenge. So, just like it played out. Everyone is trying to decide if they are the one that deserves to go on. While everyone else thinks it’s the main character. He doesn’t think he’s worthy. So he’s trying to find them.
One of the overlooked parts of final scene was the pan to the text “hide so that the wolf won’t find you” and “hide well sheep” implying that the real wolves are the sheep who will do anything they can to live and get what they want. However the wolf is really the sheep, who will cower away and hide so that they can be the one to live on.
I think the way quinn thought the game is how it is played originally by kids that 3 lambs hide and one person finds them over their turns, if it would be like that then the lamb have to sacrifice himself but here they said at start the one who would be the wolf in the end is the winner. it literally became a sacrificial lamb type situation.
I’ve been catching these uploads almost right as they go up! Merry (post) Christmas y’all, hope it was great!! I love Alice in Borderland and this is one of the more sad episodes of the first season, i’m excited to watch the reactions!!
It's a game of hearts, everybody wants to live so everybody thinks to become the wolf is the purpose of the game...but the twist of the game is that friends enter the game together and don't realize at first that the goal is not to survive, but rather to save. The wolf survives but the wolf will want to save their friends, while the lambs will die and save the wolf. The game doesn't work as a game of betrayal if four strangers enter, as everybody will seek to be the wolf. The game is meant to bring out the true nature of the creatures, while disguising that premise in plain sight. On surface the game appears to be that the lambs hunt the wolf and the wolf hides from the lambs, but in reality the lambs sacrifice themselves to the wolf and the wolf hunts the lambs. Non-destructive members of society will not be able to sacrifice others, because they know that the blood spilled will be on their hands.
I remember watching this episode when the show first came out with some friends of mine. We were all balling our eyes out. This hits on the same level as that one scene in Train to Busan.
Seven of Hearts' game flips the rules of hide-and-seek, with the wolf hiding from the sheep instead of vice versa. Arisu's moral dilemma arises when he becomes the wolf, and he must choose between survival and the lives of his best friends. Before the game, Airsu was wasting his life away despite being brighter than most people his age. Karube and Chota's sacrifice gives him a strong sense of purpose to reach his full potential
This was probably the most shocking episode of anything ever literally an entire cast wipe and the trauma that he has now after all that. His acting was incredible that screaming at the end was from the soul
I’ve watched so many reaction channels on Alice in Borderlands but i finally understand the game in this particular episode. That’s why it was a hearts game, it played with their hearts and even ours to an extent. Such a great reaction from you guys can’t wait to see more.
Watched this episode 3 times before, this is my 4th time with your reaction. Still in pain, still crying. In a way this episode comes out of nowhere and despite understanding the rules I was in a complete denial till the very end. Surely Arisu will find a way out, I thought - because he did so all the times before, right? But no, there was no way out and it was heartbreaking. It only needed 2 episodes to get so attached to these characters and their friendship, only 2 episodes to feel like you are a part of that friendgroup, that the end just hurt as much to the watcher as it did to Arisu.
I was confused with the game too, until I remembered it's a game of hearts. Either hide and be the (sacrificial) lamb or survive by fighting the wolf. I think the game could've ended differently if the participants were strangers to eo
My take on "lambs hide well" is to avoid the brutality of having your friend watch your head get blown off. That is what truly ducks with you, what rips your heart out. All of his friends were willing to die for him so they stayed hidden. But to not stay hidden and have your friend actually watch you die is a whole other ball game. That part made me cry when i first watched it.
This episode hurts. And the balls on this show to kill off two characters who you assumed would be there until the end. I did not see that coming at all. God damn show is amazing.
I loved your reaction to this episode, I watched all the commentary and honestly it is so fun to watch you guys figure it out yourselves. I'm excited for the future reactions!!
NO SPOILERS: I think most people are gonna fully understand your confusion because most of them went through it themselves, but what's fascinating is that the confusion is due to a conflict between subverted expectations of bias, not really because the rules were unclear. These games are, in a lot of ways, a test to see how out of the box you can think. The rules weren't misleading at all, actually they were very clear, but previous life experiences with the concept of hide and seek, as well as the concept of wolves and lambs, makes most viewers initially misunderstand the game. There are 3 lambs and 1 wolf - in such a scenario, the lambs must hide from the wolf, we all agree. That's the game at the bone. The reason WHY they must hide, however, is the subversion. WE add "they must hide in order to not be killed" because of our bias, but the rule is, the wolf wins, so the only reason the lambs would hide is for the wolf to survive, which is something we get to understand once the characters themselves do and start hiding from Arisu but initially throws us for a loop because "why would lambs wants a wolf to live?" It's a hearts game in the sense that it does play with people's hearts, not because the rules are manipulatory. Actually, the reason it works so well is BECAUSE of how clear and uncompromising it is in its rules, therefore letting no room for the players to play outside of the rules, forcing them to make a decision, be it a sacrifice or betrayal. So they get to live with the concequences of those decisions. Feel the grief, the guilt, the pain or the satisfaction, if you're an ahole, while the others feel betrayed. I think this game was put at this point in the season for a very good, narratively functional reason (beyond ofc the character building, the angst, the setting of tone): it's meant to strongly push the viewer to look beyond first appearences when approaching a game, dig deeper. We had a bit of that with both the previous games, but it was not enough to make the viewer super suspicious and careful in how they interpret rules. This game however? Turned most of us paranoid haha
What you thought about the rule was correct. The point here is the 7 Hearts' games. The game was in reverse because they were friends and played against each other. So, the dynamic changed at first because they all wanted to survive, but after they changed their mind and decided to let Arisu live, "The lambs had to hide from the wolf." to spare Arisu's. They tell the lamb to hide because, at the end, the lambs must let the wolf win or lives.
I remember thinking "There's no way we're gonna lose 3 of our 4 main characters rn, Arisu will find a way." Seems the showmakers took it as a challenge.
Why would people call them idiots for thinking through the part of the show that confused them and coming to the correct conclusion? Let stop shaming people for not being exposed to spoilers, so I really enjoyed the discussion of your guys figuring out the rules and finding it brilliant. It was awesome hearing you guys helping each other think through the rules of the game!
Hey, I'm new to the channel so I don't know your names (sorry, I promise to learn them in the future), however the guy with the reversed cap was ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, everything he said about being a sacrifice game to choose which friend to be left alive instead of being a slaughtering game about killing the rest while being the wolf. That is why is a Hearts game and not a Spades game, because they destroy a friendship and make them do desicions they wish to never do, instead of making the players run for their life to escape the wolf like they had to escape the mask people in the 5 of Spades game. pd: you guys are amazing, new follower :)
I loved this reaction!! I understand all the thoughts you had completely 💚 Alice in borderland is my favourite show ever and I love seeing other people’s reactions to it. Loving your reactions and thoughts thank you. Can’t wait till you see the rest 🥰😎
The game of hearts is to play with players.... well, hearts. In this case the game intentionally picked 4 people with a close bond, of the 4 3 are friends and 2 are lovers. The game instructed 3 people to hide, so 1 would live. Basically it's forcing 3 players to sacrifice for 1 of their friends, but it's also intended to turn friends against each other (much like they did at the start) out of fear of dying. Come to the end of the game, Chota and Karube wanted Arisu to survive. That's why Chota held down and prevented Shibuki from catching Arisu and apologised at the end.
I just realized, rewatching this with your reaction. It said that the Lamb's collars will explode. Does being the wolf disable the explosion system? So maybe when you are a wolf, use the tools to take the collar off. Pass the wolf status to the other lamb so he/she can become the wolf then break the collar off and so on until all of you remove the collars that explodes.
Nope. A heart game is purely psychological. Everything mention in this game was just a misleading to the actual goal, which could be solved logical. The concept of a heart game is just crazy
It was a very tense and tragic scene but I bursted into laughter when Diamond Dave looked over to Mason @20:23 My guy said "Are you serious?!" without uttering a word
You’ll find out later that this game is actually specifically designed for them because they’re friends. This game wouldn’t be there if 4 strangers went into the game. I read from somewhere it says in the manga they actually had a hard time finding other game arenas and this was the only one they could find/ leading their way to, so definitely a game made for them specifically to challenge or even laugh at their friendship.
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WOW!!!! What an episode. Just like that.... 3 of the characters gone. What was your understanding of this game? Were you confused?
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Commenting here on the off chance that you see this. Someone in the comment section mentioned that you have the "CC" subtitles on and that may have added to the confusion.
I think you guys are much farther ahead already, and hopefully, this isn't too late... For Season 1.
Love the reactions, super excited to re-live/love this amazing show through your reactions.
I recommend you gents watch My Name. Korean Drama with a mystery/revenge premise. Great fight choreography, phenomenal OST, amazing acting and utterly gut wrenching story. It was my 2nd ever Kdrama and nothing has even come close. I hope you consider it at least!
Hey fellas just a tip cause idk how far ahead u are or if anyone has suggested this, but switch ur subtitles to English & not English (cc). I've heard several folks fluent in the language say u get a more accurate translation cause they've noticed discrepancies. Also, Oak I believe u are correct w this game & I do think the subtitles were lil confusing. So glad yall are watching this crazy, fun, engrossing show! It's so good!! This moment blew my mind too losing 3 characters in one moment, but wow does this show cont to be amazing!! Fyi, I think imo that all the tools in the beginning were not for the game & were in fact if they work together to take the headsets off. Why else so many screwdrivers & clamps! Excited for the journey fellas!! Hope u all had a wonderful Christmas w ur fam & friends!!❤💞❤️
Can you guys watch "OUTLANDER", It's about time travel, history and drama. It eventually gets in to the founding of America etc
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cinematic trauma. arisu screaming is complete pain
I cry every time that scene comes up
no oak is right about the rule of lambs hiding.. the rule seemed confusing at the beginning but in the end, the rules were right. The lambs hid but not "from" the wolf but "for" the wolf. The games are just too brilliant. They knew the survivors guilt amongst friends would be too much too handle for them in the end
this!!!
i could not have said this any better 👏
It's not the wolf that has a say in this game, it's the sheep who decides who to has to live (and live with all their survival guilt).
They are the sacrificial lambs!
This episode shocked the hell out of me. The whole time I was convinced Arisu would somehow think their way out of the game and find a loophole, because how can 3/4 of our main character group die in the third episode? Did not see it coming. Then I wondered how on Earth they could make the rest of the show work without all our characters, but let me tell you this is just the start.
I think there was a possible solution.
there definely was a one for everyone to survive if everyone calmed down and worked together to think of something
Pretty sure this isn't what happened in the manga I could be wrong tho
@@TheRealBillix I think this also happens in the manga
@TheRealBillix That's what happened in the manga too, and that's exactly this game that made me remember that I read it a long time ago before the series was out.
"Hide sheep so the wolf won't find you." Remember Arisu and Karube were told previously that hearts games were about *betrayal* so the whole team went in with that in mind. But the game was never actually about that, hearts are purely *psychological* games. They, and the audience, misread the instructions/think they don't make sense and jump to the wrong conclusion. The game, from the very beginning, was about sacrifice- the sheep hiding would only ever come about in the circumstance of them choosing the wolf to live and it knew that.
*Also the tools at the start were another ploy to make them think the wrong thing, the previous games have naturally made them jump to violence first. But it's more likely that the tools really were there to take the headsets off and if they had worked together they'd have been able to figure it out- don't forget Chota was good with electronics too. The fact that the game makes a point to say they can use the tools, and never specifies that they can't fiddle with the headsets makes me feel there was another way, which only adds to the heartbreak. Arisu was probably on the right track, but he was struggling to cut it himself- the device is probably purpose built to be removed by someone else if the team works together.
i think its too risky to try do anything with collars because anytime laser can pew-pew them, but if we see a mind game here, i am wondering if wolf do a sucide then what happens, do all remaining 3 wins or they all die because no can be next wolf.
It's fun to rewatch this show and try to figure what could have been done differently or a loophole that could have been exploited.
@@utkarshsharma2433 yeah definitely risky to try things with the collars, but spoilers below:
There's a game in season 2 that also doesn't explicitly say that you can't remove a device (armband)- and they end up removing one in order to win. Whilst other games specify removing it means death. The games are always very clear about the rules, this is why I think there was a chance these ones could have been removed as they didn't specify they couldn't.
Yeah, when I was watching it, the first thought came I my mind is since they were all friends they should try to talk out of it, try to do something with collar, there's literally a drill and a hacksaw there, but that's the drama of a webseries, also that wristband move was so unexpected.
What do you think, I wolf would've done suicide, then what?
I mean it make sense now because we know the person who create this game . Don't wanna spoil it if person who reading this haven't watch season 2. It make sense now for the "Hide sheep so the wolf won't find you."
"little urgency in high tension situations"...y'all have NO idea how accurate this description of Chishiya is gonna be in the later episodes LMAO.
for those who know...Hands in pockets was INSANE
That’s the EXACT moment I thought of too😂
lmaooo sooo true casually walking away from danger
Hands in the pockets, a lil jog like brother does not care😭
They are gonna love Chishiya just like we did when the time comes!
Bro was casually dodging bullets 😭
Kento Yamazaki's performance throughout this show is truly something to behold. He really shines in this episode, but even more so going forward. Perfect casting, these series would not be what it is without his brilliant acting.
His speech in the last game talking to Aguni still gives me chills.
His acting skills are CRAZY.
To me it’s also heartbreaking that Karube can’t even look at Arisu as he says his thanks and goodbye. If he does, he would become the world and survive. So the last time he saw him was when he was literally going to kill Arisu. And that hurts
You mean wolf. But yes this ep was so emotional.
😢ohhh why are you saying that? It hurts even more now.
Holy shit I didn’t even notice that omfg that’s so much worse
I think you got confused bcz of the subtitles 12:03 In the correct subtitles she literally says "There's a flaw in this game. If the wolf survives, there's no point to the lambs hiding"
Yes 🙌🏻 unfortunately they are watching with Closed captions instead of simple English, which are most of the time not accurate
We all got confused for a second, but I got the rules when they all started to think about their friendship, the phrase "hide well sheep" AND so the line "heart games mess with your heart" I understand what they were doing....
"If I'm a wolf I'm not going to try to find a lamb" okay well, that's what Arisu did, he wanted to find a lamb so they can live. This game is specifically made for friends.
Don’t worry you guys are NOT idiots, it’s confusing on purpose and the subtitles also sometimes it doesn’t translate correctly
English subtitles are better than English closed captions, which I believe they’re watching with, unfortunately.
As a translator, there's a HUGE difference between the translation and closed captions, that being the emphasis on description of sounds for closed captions. For CC you need to sacrifice even more words to fit in the 6 second rule for those reading. So yeah, I'm hoping they switch to the translated subtitles only soon!
@@KWExploretheworld The closed captions are the subtitles for the English dub. I watched all of Squid Game and didn't think anything was wrong with the subtitles because I don't know any Korean. But I know a few phrases in Japanese so I noticed it with Alice in Borderland when they'd say something that I understood but it wasn't what the subtitles said. I switched it to dub to test it and the subtitles said exactly what I was hearing
@@dsimi415 Japanese speaks very fast, which sometimes is too fast for English speakers. For dubs, they have to change the original conversation so as to fit in the English conversation within a few seconds. Turns out they couldn’t use literal translation as that wouldn’t fit in the limited time. So they’ve changed the whole phrase/sentence/expression for the dubs with cc. Dubs are so bad that it’s like they’ve written a whole different scripts for the show, changing or even twisting the original meaning in Japanese. The English subtitles are definitely more accurate.
@@KWExploretheworld Oh no, don't get me wrong. I was just saying that's why the CC is so off because it's the subtitles for the English version and not a translation of the Japanese. I wasn't trying to say to watch with CC and I most certainly wasn't trying to imply the dub is better or even good. I didn't know at the time if that's what the CC actually was, it was just a theory in my head so I first switched between the CC and the English subs and noticed they said different things so then I turned on the CC and switched it to dub literally just to check. Once I confirmed it, I switched it straight back to Japanese and put on the actual translation
I always think this show is criminally underrated, I mean those who watch it know it is amazing but it didn't get large scale exposure sadly.
I agree. One of the reasons is that Japan produces works with low budgets and does not focus on overseas promotion. This is in stark contrast to South Korean works, which receive financial support from the government.
It truly is!
The acting isn't great man. Every emotion is severely exaggerated as is typical of Japanese acting. Nobody screams and screams and screams and keeps screaming. Less is more.
@@Garbowhat Less is not always more. I am pretty sure in those situations everyone will act differently. If your best friend died right in front of you like that, and you were trying to save him. Would you shrug and walk away? Probably not.
@@Garbowhat just say you never lost a loved one and don't understand how it may feels
The acting, man... No words
the rules never said to kill the lamb it just said for the sheep to hide well because the genre of the game was hearts so it was to twist with connections and relationships so that’s why this episode was so gut wrenching for a lot of people because everyone was confused why the sheep had to hide if being the wolf would mean you win, when actually is it really winning if the people you’re closest to are eliminated from the game, that is traumatising
This, the rules seems confusing because theres a meaning to it. The lambs are supposed to hide to show that they all care for each other. If its the other way around, it would look like the wolf and the lambs are selfish people who want to live.
@ Yesss the heart games always have some sort of meaning to it I agree!
@@ryoutacooks Yes, because if it’s the other way round, then it would be more of a physical hunting game than a heart game.
Heart games makes you forget how to solve a game logically. These psychological effects with „only one person can live“,these weapons on the table, how the question was interpreted, the 15min timer etc.
Everything was made like this to make it seems twisted and blind you from solving this puzzle…. Truly a heart game lol
In the manga, 7 of Hearts plays almost the same way with two key differences.
The first one being the climax. When Arisu announces he'll withdrawn from the game, he stays at the entrance to give the wolf to whoever wishes to get it. Both Karube and Chota firmly declare they're not going. Shibuki quickly rushes toward him, but then abruptly stops. After witnessing their selflessness even in a moment of desperation, she shows the courage to make the sacrifice, choosing to hide once again. It's only when there are a couple of minutes left that Arisu goes to look for everyone, panicking and begging them to come out. In the end, all three thank him for everything, asking him to carry on for them before dying.
The second one, 7 of Hearts is one of the two games we witness to have an additional reward besides the Visa days. In this case, it was a cooked piece of mutten for the winner. This, of course, has two different interpretations, and for Arisu, it was a way of mocking him for having lost his friends by rubbing more salt on the wound. Because of this, he ends up burning the entire place down in a rage and falls on the streets, succumbing to a huge depression.
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Heart games are psychological games, having the purpose of testing players' resolve, beliefs, and desire to live. However, because they often tend to show someone's true colors, they gained the infamous reputation of "games where you play with others' hearts", manipulation and betrayal. This created a negative effect on players, because now instead of calmly thinking of a solution that could benefit everyone, they're all just fighting for themselves.
The meaning of the rules can change depending on the way the players choose to tackle the game, so I don't think any of them were wrong for thinking the wolf had to kill the sheeps, that was just another way to go about it if any of them were to let their desperation for survival consume them, because at the end of the day, none of them were punished for attacking themselves, if you pay attention. That's why I said the piece of mutten has two different interpretations, the other one being, you're just a hungry wolf killing for their own survival.
7 of Hearts is one of the most debated games in the community, because to this day there hasn't been a single fool-proof way of beating it without losing any players. The most reasonable theory revolves around the sheep cutting the wolf's collar to disable it using the tools given to them at the entrance. The collar wouldn't explode, because the wolf isn't at risk of dying. Once that's done, they would pass the wolf to a sheep and repeat the process, leaving the last player to keep the wolf and just wait for the game to end. This could also be hinted at the start, where the sheep are drawn behind the wolf, suggesting them to dismantle the collar, not to actually hide from them.
This game is the reason why I said I don't like the adaptation antagonizing Shibuki. In the show, Chota basically forces her to accept her death, as they clearly show her struggling to get away, contrary to the source material, where she willfully accepts to let Arisu be the one to survive, showing not only her growth, but that she genuinely cared for the three of them in what little time they shared together.
However, I very much enjoy the inclusion of Arisu reminiscing on the good times he had with his friends and how much they mean to him in the show, since we don't have his internal monologues and flashbacks to put those pieces together. The pain of losing the only people that kept him anchored to the world is extremely heartbreaking, and it doesn't matter whether manga or live action, 7 of Hearts never fails to make me cry.
Brilliant comment - I didn’t myself read the manga, your comment puts some context to the original source.
As always, The Oak got it right. He’s got the highest EQ. The lambs have to hide because this is a hearts game- the lambs have to choose the survivor and willingly sacrifice their life.
If it were a club’s game, then Mason would be right. The lambs would have to work together to kill the wolf.
@bellatrixlest unnecessary and mean for no reason
@@bellatrixlestdid u really have to add that last part? lol
Some of them just can’t read the rules and understand the win condition.
You meant highest IQ?
didnt the answer tell him that though? he was just repeating/explaining what answer said first lol
Arisu has one of the most heart-wrenching screams in all of media. I was chilled to the bone when I first saw this episode; 10/10 acting and 10/10 storytelling. I'm so excited to see your reactions to the rest! 😄
Japaneses have a way with expression, hence subtitle animes are better in general. Dragon Ball is still better in dub.
@@TurboSke agreed! 💯
Explaining the rules of the game:
Initially, the instructions say that the lamb must hide from the wolf, and the wolf must find a lamb to become a lamb, but then the instructions say that the lambs that remain in the end will lose the game, making the idea of “hide and seek” inverted. However, this is a hearts game, so the rules were made so that the people who are playing the game choose to sacrifice themselves. At the end, as in the instructions, the wolf (arisu) was looking for the lambs to give his life to them, but they were hidden. Basically, the rules were made for the survivor to feel guilty for the death of others.
I love that the Cow joke is still going.
Yeah because it's so funny
from a reddit post: "I think the idea of this game is that your perspective changes as you play it specifically with your friends.
You start off wanting to be the wolf and survive. But realise that means your friends die and you live.
As you all play your view on the game shifts, the sheep hide because they want to sacrifice themselves for you, and you hunt as the wolf because you want to do the same for them.
That’s what makes it a tough hearts game and it’s why they showed it played with friends rather than just a random group where there’s no emotions really involved. It’s also why the area you play in is set up so that it’s so easy to hide."
This ep hits hard because in the two previous we've seen Arisu outsmarting the system and getting his friends out of trouble, so we naturally imagine that it will keep happening despite the games getting harder...because we CAN'T lose as many important characters so soon and at the same time, can we?
They went for the throat with this one, literally.
this episode breaks your heart. i remember being shocked by these deaths. i didn't expect characters who seemed to be main characters to die so soon. in reality it's not like that, even if their death will affect arisu a lot. anyway one episode a week is not enough. I want another one already 😂. thanks for the video!
Guys I hope you read this comment 🤞🏻🤞🏻
The subtitles u guys have are not accurate bcz instead of just eng u have Eng CC on , which are the subtitles for the dub version. Thus they change a lot of dialogues.
It's the same for every non English series so just a tip ALWAYS CHECK THAT ITS NOT CC
I second this, just as an example, they have watched till ep 6 on Patreon & and at the end of ep 6 they said "oh all 58 players" and I was so confused, bcz it was never mentioned in my subtitles ( since it's timer and u have to have ur own screen) but then I realized they have Eng CC
Yup. I learned this with Squid Game accidentally.
I hope they at least get to switch for the last 2 eps of S1 😣
sadly they probably didn't read the comment.
Commenting to boost
24:44 The point of the lambs hiding was to sacrifice themselves for the wolf to survive. As they were all friends Chota and Karube sacrificed themselves so that Arisu could survive. It was a heart game so it was designed that way to play with their relationship.
Only gripe is that this game seemed specifically designed for these characters. This result would be unlikely had any other players initiated the game
Thank you!!
21:13 this show goes way too fast is exactly what I said when I first started watching the series lol. I was so invested 😭😭
You wanna go into games with your friends because then you have people on your side that you can trust. Sadly, because there are hearts games, it can backfire on you like this.
Arisu's screaming at the end..... I remember watching this when it came out on Christmas day. I was so traumatized lol but I love this show so much!!!!!
The Oak is soooo intelligent! He's right again.
I remember how much I cried by the end of this episode
It doesn't matter if they showed up as friends or strangers.
Strangers situation:
3 lambs would team up and kill the wolf because only the wolf can survive. Now it's a battle royale situation.
Friends situation:
Nominate a wolf to survive and sacrifice yourself.
Y'all debating among yourselves is hilarious 😂
You guys haven't noticed the ending. This episode is brilliant.
The shot at the end shows that he really became a wolf. Blood all over his face, teeth showing and howling. It shows in a way that he did kill his lambs(friends) as a wolf
Shibuki was the sole survivor in her first game, then died to create another sole survivor in her last game. A detail that they don't mention is that both of those were heart games (her first game was 2 of hearts, and this was 7 of hearts).
Since Mason Quinn asked.. 👉"ALL OF US ARE DEAD"
Highly recommended especially for zombie lovers😎
Liked Quinn's hand gesture at 4:14 hehe☺ as soon we see it was a hearts game ya just knew hearts would be broken, i teared up when i first saw this eps of his friends reminiscing & that line "live for us" you could really feel Arisu's pain with those screams, i found your in depth post discussions about the game so fascinating, shows how invested you all are with this show & it's characters & Quinn's right that it wasn't a gory death for big shock value, it was one that's very emotional & meant something, a very powerful episode, so glad you're all enjoying this show so much! 😊❤💚💙
There's a theory that all heart games can be completed with nobody dying.
Karube has already foreshadowing their death in episode 1... he said that if the apocalypse really happen, Arisu will be the only one of them who survive because he will outsmart the situation.
Battle Royale is one of the first and a top tier movie in a vein similar to this.
Oak is right. That’s how you find the true wolf in sheep’s clothing. There are 2 outcomes of this hearts game:
If the lambs choose to sacrifice, the wolf lives. (This current outcome, they choose who lives.)
If they are all strangers or friends who really don’t care about each other, they will kill each other (thus the weapons) so that the last one will survive (that is the true wolf hiding in sheep clothing).
It’s a game of trying to reveal your true nature. Are you for yourself or for friends?
It's confusing because they purposefully inverted the normal troupe of the game. Usually, the wolf hunts and the lambs hide because the wolf is going to kill the lambs. But in this game the wolf hunts and the lambs hide out of love, to save each to save the other. The lambs had to collectively pick one person they were willing to die for. It's the type of game that only works if you have deep love for the others in your group. Otherwise, it would turn into the lambs hunting to wolf in order to stay alive.
I thought the same thing about the reflection when I saw Arisu staring at his....but he would have to make simultaneous eye contact with everyone which is impossible IF the game would even allow that :/ I've finished all 2 seasons now, and every single game I tried to out think or find the twist. Sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't...loved the strategy breakdown at the end, and great reaction guys 🤘
In a clear cut way of understanding it’s literally just inverted hide and seek where the person who is it “the wolf” hides and if he wins, he survives. However, the line saying if you’re a lamb to stay hidden and don’t let the wolf find you is for those who caught onto the game that in order for the wolf to win, you have to sacrifice yourself = so stay hidden
✨ *As a manga reader, them dying is also shocking. Like I really thought they were all the main charas till the end. The live action captured the terror as well. Kento Yamazaki's crying scream is one the best agonizing screams I've ever heard!*
the 'hide well little lambs' moment is so well done, I cry every time. This episode does a really good job at making you feel like no one is ever safe, which is good in a show like this. excited to (re)watch the rest with you :)
Episode 3, the episode no one will ever forget. Pure cinematic trauma moment. Arisus scream made everything even worse, just imagine how this moment feels for him🥲
@32:00 How i interpreted the game of hearts being convenient for these 4 friends: It was pure chance. The nature of the game of hearts relies on the assumption that most people have morals, so it wouldn't matter if the group who showed up to the 7 of hearts were friends or not, as the winner would have to grapple with the fact that they effectively killed 3 other people to stay alive (hence the table of weapons). That sort of guilt is what makes a game of hearts so trying. The fact that the 4 who did show up were friends made that choice that much more difficult for the winner.
I finished watching Season 2 and holy. I cant wait for more.
The show is done. Lol
@@davidm9399 Nope, Season 3 was confirmed and announced just last month officially by Netflix.
Basically. The lambs decided who wins. They chooses who survives.
I cried then and I cried now! 😭😭
Same 😭
Think of it like this:
If you’re not friends. It’s more like the lambs should all be hunting the wolf. Reverse hide and seek/tag.
However, “hearts” is more of a… it hurts your heart or emotional challenge. So, just like it played out. Everyone is trying to decide if they are the one that deserves to go on. While everyone else thinks it’s the main character. He doesn’t think he’s worthy. So he’s trying to find them.
I hope everyone had a great day yesterday!!
Oh i’ve been waitingggg. Merry Christmas, you guys!
Oak is actually right! these games are very intentional on the person and friend groups, It definitely isn’t on accident
20:20 The look Diamond Dave gives to Mason is hilarious
One of the overlooked parts of final scene was the pan to the text “hide so that the wolf won’t find you” and “hide well sheep” implying that the real wolves are the sheep who will do anything they can to live and get what they want. However the wolf is really the sheep, who will cower away and hide so that they can be the one to live on.
I think the way quinn thought the game is how it is played originally by kids that 3 lambs hide and one person finds them over their turns, if it would be like that then the lamb have to sacrifice himself but here they said at start the one who would be the wolf in the end is the winner. it literally became a sacrificial lamb type situation.
I’ve been catching these uploads almost right as they go up! Merry (post) Christmas y’all, hope it was great!! I love Alice in Borderland and this is one of the more sad episodes of the first season, i’m excited to watch the reactions!!
It's a game of hearts, everybody wants to live so everybody thinks to become the wolf is the purpose of the game...but the twist of the game is that friends enter the game together and don't realize at first that the goal is not to survive, but rather to save. The wolf survives but the wolf will want to save their friends, while the lambs will die and save the wolf. The game doesn't work as a game of betrayal if four strangers enter, as everybody will seek to be the wolf.
The game is meant to bring out the true nature of the creatures, while disguising that premise in plain sight. On surface the game appears to be that the lambs hunt the wolf and the wolf hides from the lambs, but in reality the lambs sacrifice themselves to the wolf and the wolf hunts the lambs. Non-destructive members of society will not be able to sacrifice others, because they know that the blood spilled will be on their hands.
I cried all day after this episode 😭
I remember watching this episode when the show first came out with some friends of mine. We were all balling our eyes out. This hits on the same level as that one scene in Train to Busan.
Seven of Hearts' game flips the rules of hide-and-seek, with the wolf hiding from the sheep instead of vice versa. Arisu's moral dilemma arises when he becomes the wolf, and he must choose between survival and the lives of his best friends. Before the game, Airsu was wasting his life away despite being brighter than most people his age. Karube and Chota's sacrifice gives him a strong sense of purpose to reach his full potential
Don’t worry I was confused at first too!! But at the end I understood it was a game of sacrifice not hunting.
This was probably the most shocking episode of anything ever literally an entire cast wipe and the trauma that he has now after all that. His acting was incredible that screaming at the end was from the soul
I’ve watched so many reaction channels on Alice in Borderlands but i finally understand the game in this particular episode. That’s why it was a hearts game, it played with their hearts and even ours to an extent. Such a great reaction from you guys can’t wait to see more.
Watched this episode 3 times before, this is my 4th time with your reaction. Still in pain, still crying. In a way this episode comes out of nowhere and despite understanding the rules I was in a complete denial till the very end. Surely Arisu will find a way out, I thought - because he did so all the times before, right? But no, there was no way out and it was heartbreaking. It only needed 2 episodes to get so attached to these characters and their friendship, only 2 episodes to feel like you are a part of that friendgroup, that the end just hurt as much to the watcher as it did to Arisu.
watch moving ... you will love it... its not death game like these but the action, the heartwarming moments...one of the best show I have seen 2023
I was confused with the game too, until I remembered it's a game of hearts. Either hide and be the (sacrificial) lamb or survive by fighting the wolf. I think the game could've ended differently if the participants were strangers to eo
My take on "lambs hide well" is to avoid the brutality of having your friend watch your head get blown off. That is what truly ducks with you, what rips your heart out. All of his friends were willing to die for him so they stayed hidden. But to not stay hidden and have your friend actually watch you die is a whole other ball game. That part made me cry when i first watched it.
The one thing that this series masters is making us emotionally attached to characters in a short amount of time.
Oak is always me LOL just sitting there speechless 🥹
You guys are my fav reactors in recent times . No BS , authentic discussions , good choice of shows and movies . Everything is just simply good .
the episode that absolutely BROKE me. sitting on the couch, not many any sound ...just tears running down my face. such a brilliant episode man.
This episode hurts. And the balls on this show to kill off two characters who you assumed would be there until the end.
I did not see that coming at all.
God damn show is amazing.
This is just the start, guys. You’ve to finish this season & season 2.
You’ll not regret watching this show👍👍
Still traumatized but this episode is when I realized that really only Arisu was safe.
19:21 made me love this series so much more like the developers knew the lambs are going to hide so the wolf may live
Now this is how the reaction should be done, u guys are totally awesome. Good job on the deduction mr. Oak, sir *salute
I loved your reaction to this episode, I watched all the commentary and honestly it is so fun to watch you guys figure it out yourselves. I'm excited for the future reactions!!
NO SPOILERS: I think most people are gonna fully understand your confusion because most of them went through it themselves, but what's fascinating is that the confusion is due to a conflict between subverted expectations of bias, not really because the rules were unclear.
These games are, in a lot of ways, a test to see how out of the box you can think. The rules weren't misleading at all, actually they were very clear, but previous life experiences with the concept of hide and seek, as well as the concept of wolves and lambs, makes most viewers initially misunderstand the game.
There are 3 lambs and 1 wolf - in such a scenario, the lambs must hide from the wolf, we all agree. That's the game at the bone. The reason WHY they must hide, however, is the subversion. WE add "they must hide in order to not be killed" because of our bias, but the rule is, the wolf wins, so the only reason the lambs would hide is for the wolf to survive, which is something we get to understand once the characters themselves do and start hiding from Arisu but initially throws us for a loop because "why would lambs wants a wolf to live?"
It's a hearts game in the sense that it does play with people's hearts, not because the rules are manipulatory. Actually, the reason it works so well is BECAUSE of how clear and uncompromising it is in its rules, therefore letting no room for the players to play outside of the rules, forcing them to make a decision, be it a sacrifice or betrayal. So they get to live with the concequences of those decisions. Feel the grief, the guilt, the pain or the satisfaction, if you're an ahole, while the others feel betrayed.
I think this game was put at this point in the season for a very good, narratively functional reason (beyond ofc the character building, the angst, the setting of tone): it's meant to strongly push the viewer to look beyond first appearences when approaching a game, dig deeper. We had a bit of that with both the previous games, but it was not enough to make the viewer super suspicious and careful in how they interpret rules. This game however? Turned most of us paranoid haha
What you thought about the rule was correct. The point here is the 7 Hearts' games. The game was in reverse because they were friends and played against each other. So, the dynamic changed at first because they all wanted to survive, but after they changed their mind and decided to let Arisu live, "The lambs had to hide from the wolf." to spare Arisu's. They tell the lamb to hide because, at the end, the lambs must let the wolf win or lives.
This is where you take the phrase "sacrificial lambs" to heart no pun intended. But man love seeing you guys brainstorm great reaction btw
This episode is a legend. So glad to see the show get more recognition. Great stuff and great reaction vid
"Moving" or "Bloodhounds" would be great follow-ups to this one. They're Korean dramas and are as awesome as Japanese dramas.
Your acted ads always kill me. The dedication🤣🤣❤
I remember thinking "There's no way we're gonna lose 3 of our 4 main characters rn, Arisu will find a way."
Seems the showmakers took it as a challenge.
"there's no way they're killing off 3/4ths of the main cast..."
Why would people call them idiots for thinking through the part of the show that confused them and coming to the correct conclusion? Let stop shaming people for not being exposed to spoilers, so I really enjoyed the discussion of your guys figuring out the rules and finding it brilliant. It was awesome hearing you guys helping each other think through the rules of the game!
I still remember the shock i felt watching the ending of this episode
Hey, I'm new to the channel so I don't know your names (sorry, I promise to learn them in the future), however the guy with the reversed cap was ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, everything he said about being a sacrifice game to choose which friend to be left alive instead of being a slaughtering game about killing the rest while being the wolf. That is why is a Hearts game and not a Spades game, because they destroy a friendship and make them do desicions they wish to never do, instead of making the players run for their life to escape the wolf like they had to escape the mask people in the 5 of Spades game.
pd: you guys are amazing, new follower :)
this ep broke me alil coz you thinking its gonna be your usual save of the day thing but no .... they drop the trauma on you
I loved this reaction!! I understand all the thoughts you had completely 💚
Alice in borderland is my favourite show ever and I love seeing other people’s reactions to it. Loving your reactions and thoughts thank you. Can’t wait till you see the rest 🥰😎
The game of hearts is to play with players.... well, hearts.
In this case the game intentionally picked 4 people with a close bond, of the 4 3 are friends and 2 are lovers.
The game instructed 3 people to hide, so 1 would live. Basically it's forcing 3 players to sacrifice for 1 of their friends, but it's also intended to turn friends against each other (much like they did at the start) out of fear of dying.
Come to the end of the game, Chota and Karube wanted Arisu to survive. That's why Chota held down and prevented Shibuki from catching Arisu and apologised at the end.
This episode never fails to make me cry, so heartbreaking
4:27 Watch Severance same vibe, you'll love it ❤
I just realized, rewatching this with your reaction. It said that the Lamb's collars will explode. Does being the wolf disable the explosion system? So maybe when you are a wolf, use the tools to take the collar off. Pass the wolf status to the other lamb so he/she can become the wolf then break the collar off and so on until all of you remove the collars that explodes.
its a HEART game. either you betray your friend by hiding as a wolf or sacrife yourself for your friend by hiding as a lamb.
Nope. A heart game is purely psychological. Everything mention in this game was just a misleading to the actual goal, which could be solved logical. The concept of a heart game is just crazy
It was a very tense and tragic scene but I bursted into laughter when Diamond Dave looked over to Mason @20:23
My guy said "Are you serious?!" without uttering a word
You’ll find out later that this game is actually specifically designed for them because they’re friends. This game wouldn’t be there if 4 strangers went into the game. I read from somewhere it says in the manga they actually had a hard time finding other game arenas and this was the only one they could find/ leading their way to, so definitely a game made for them specifically to challenge or even laugh at their friendship.
This episode is really heavy, but the ad was wonderfully nostalgic, very fun to watch 😂