Pulling down back from opposite side is the most useful tip ever! So simple and effective, still didn't though of it myself, thanks:) One question regarding wearing down as a belay for coffe breaks; doesn't it provide less warmth if wore on top of a shell, rather than below it, over base or another mid? Seeing shell should be a barier between body to outer conditions so wouldn't down be less afficient of capturing the body's warmth if a shell stands in between?
There's no reason to put a down jacket over the top of a hardshell, as logically you'd only really be wearing a hardshell in the rain, meaning your down jacket would get soaked through. A synthetic belay jacket, however, can be popped over the top to add vital warmth without removing your shell and getting soggy. If this synthetic jacket gets wet, it'll still provide warmth.
Pick a nice warm sunny day and allow the garment to air dry, laid open and flat on a rack if possible. Just like in the 'how to wash your down jacket' video, you will need to periodically give it a good shake and break apart the down clumps but doing this every hour or so. This will take considerably longer, but you will still be able to achieve good results if done correctly. Alternatively, you could pop around a friends house and kindly ask to use their tumble drier (socially distancing of course). The other option would be to send your jacket off to be cleaned; Rab, for example, offer a down washing service. Kind regards, Harry.
When it comes to down,, it's totally worth a trip to the nearest laundromat . The drying stage is how most people screw up their down filled products. If not dried proper;y, mildew and mold can grow inside the down and your down is as good as trash. If you live somewhere with hot summers, air drying might work.
I sweat a lot and am concerned of ruining my down midlayer under my "alpine outer shell." Any concerns with sweating? I notice that the sweat goes through at the crux of my elbow and actually appears to soak through my alpine outer shell, but only in the crux of my elbows. 16 degrees F at the base of the mountain and -??? with 60mph wind gusts at top. Trying to figure out the layering thing! I wasn't cold at the summit but on the descent, I noticed the sweat was coming through at the elbows. Any advice would be appreciated ! Thank you kindly.
You would better switching to a synthetic insulated jacket as it will still keep you warm even when wet! It's also really important to wear a good wicking baselayer, a synthetic material will cope with heavy sweating better than merino. I hope that helps. Paul.
Tried to pull down back in but almost impossible when along the seems as there is no gap between the layers to grab from opposite side. End up causing more down to come out around that area due to all the faffing about. Good advice on the backback abrasion. My ME helium jacket is very thin so something to avoid.
Is it a risk to compress it? I heard the feathers don't get back to their original fluffy shape, affecting the temperature. Which is the most time it can be compressed without it being damaged?
If you can avoid having it stuffed for weeks on end then do so, but in most cases it won't make much difference if it's just short term. Even if it begins to lose its loft, a good wash and tumble dry resets the down and it'll loft again.
Hi am back again ahahahah I av a mountain equipment n me coat looks like droopy or it’s saggy if ye get me how can I stop it or fix it even cos it doesn’t look good really cheers
To be honest Liam B, I have no idea what you’re talking about. Please supply us with more specific information and we will endeavour to be of assistance.
That depends on the down jacket. Some have protective outer fabrics that will repel snow, but others will be lighter and more susceptible to water ingress. Snow is generally not as bad as rain, though. Harry
Best not to. It could damage the outer fabric and won't actually pull apart the clumps of down that could have formed when it got wet. We have a down washing/drying video here that demonstrates the correct technique: th-cam.com/video/P7YtwPt6QLk/w-d-xo.html
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Pulling down back from opposite side is the most useful tip ever! So simple and effective, still didn't though of it myself, thanks:)
One question regarding wearing down as a belay for coffe breaks;
doesn't it provide less warmth if wore on top of a shell, rather than below it, over base or another mid?
Seeing shell should be a barier between body to outer conditions so wouldn't down be less afficient of capturing the body's warmth if a shell stands in between?
There's no reason to put a down jacket over the top of a hardshell, as logically you'd only really be wearing a hardshell in the rain, meaning your down jacket would get soaked through. A synthetic belay jacket, however, can be popped over the top to add vital warmth without removing your shell and getting soggy. If this synthetic jacket gets wet, it'll still provide warmth.
@@trekitt Not really the answer I was looking for. Thanks anyway
Great video...what about us lowly folk who don't have a tumble dryer though, any drying tips?
Pick a nice warm sunny day and allow the garment to air dry, laid open and flat on a rack if possible. Just like in the 'how to wash your down jacket' video, you will need to periodically give it a good shake and break apart the down clumps but doing this every hour or so. This will take considerably longer, but you will still be able to achieve good results if done correctly. Alternatively, you could pop around a friends house and kindly ask to use their tumble drier (socially distancing of course). The other option would be to send your jacket off to be cleaned; Rab, for example, offer a down washing service.
Kind regards, Harry.
@@trekitt Many thanks! Great tips, much appreciate :)
When it comes to down,, it's totally worth a trip to the nearest laundromat . The drying stage is how most people screw up their down filled products. If not dried proper;y, mildew and mold can grow inside the down and your down is as good as trash. If you live somewhere with hot summers, air drying might work.
Great video as per usual guys. Also one thing you missed and that is DONT pull on snagged threads. For some reason folk are tempted to do this 😁
Good shout!
Please put up the links to the videos you mentioned. TY!
They're there, but might not show up if you're casting to a TV. They should appear at the top right.
I sweat a lot and am concerned of ruining my down midlayer under my "alpine outer shell." Any concerns with sweating? I notice that the sweat goes through at the crux of my elbow and actually appears to soak through my alpine outer shell, but only in the crux of my elbows. 16 degrees F at the base of the mountain and -??? with 60mph wind gusts at top. Trying to figure out the layering thing! I wasn't cold at the summit but on the descent, I noticed the sweat was coming through at the elbows. Any advice would be appreciated ! Thank you kindly.
You would better switching to a synthetic insulated jacket as it will still keep you warm even when wet! It's also really important to wear a good wicking baselayer, a synthetic material will cope with heavy sweating better than merino. I hope that helps. Paul.
Tried to pull down back in but almost impossible when along the seems as there is no gap between the layers to grab from opposite side. End up causing more down to come out around that area due to all the faffing about.
Good advice on the backback abrasion. My ME helium jacket is very thin so something to avoid.
Admittedly getting the down back through the seams can be a bit tricky, but its always worth a try. Thanks for watching.
Is it a risk to compress it?
I heard the feathers don't get back to their original fluffy shape, affecting the temperature.
Which is the most time it can be compressed without it being damaged?
If you can avoid having it stuffed for weeks on end then do so, but in most cases it won't make much difference if it's just short term. Even if it begins to lose its loft, a good wash and tumble dry resets the down and it'll loft again.
@@trekitt thankyou!
My Montane says to Dry Clean, do you think this is really necessary or will the Nikwax stuff be ok?
Washing yourself is fine if you follow the correct procedure. We've got a good video here: th-cam.com/video/P7YtwPt6QLk/w-d-xo.html
How do you pull the feathers back in?
Pinch them from the inside and gently tug them back in.
Pulling a feather back in ? yerr , i'm down with that ;) good idea .
Haha! Thanks for watching.
Do you think the north face nuptse will be good for rain or not?
Absolutely not, it'll go right through!
@@trekitt ok , but when the jacket get wet can i air dry it or it will ruin it
Hi am back again ahahahah I av a mountain equipment n me coat looks like droopy or it’s saggy if ye get me how can I stop it or fix it even cos it doesn’t look good really cheers
To be honest Liam B, I have no idea what you’re talking about. Please supply us with more specific information and we will endeavour to be of assistance.
@@trekitt like it might be because it’s wet but it looks horrible like it looks soggy if tha make sense of not it’s fine thanks for your time anyway
Sounds like it needs a wash and tumble dry to re-loft the down. We have an instructional video here: th-cam.com/video/P7YtwPt6QLk/w-d-xo.html
can u wear down jacket in wet snow? does that count as rain?
That depends on the down jacket. Some have protective outer fabrics that will repel snow, but others will be lighter and more susceptible to water ingress. Snow is generally not as bad as rain, though. Harry
The rain makes me cost stink what should I do?
Wash it! th-cam.com/video/P7YtwPt6QLk/w-d-xo.html
Can you dry it on a radiator
Best not to. It could damage the outer fabric and won't actually pull apart the clumps of down that could have formed when it got wet. We have a down washing/drying video here that demonstrates the correct technique: th-cam.com/video/P7YtwPt6QLk/w-d-xo.html
@@trekitt appreciate it
Most of us don't have tumble drier - because, if nothing else, we love the environment.
laundromat