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Oh and his point about Iwata coding Gold and Silver is 100% true, he also helped out loads in more than just that Pokemon game, he helped Gamefreak aswell as loads of other departments within Nintendo itself when it came to coding and such as he himself was a programmer. He was a freaking legend and it breaks my heart to think he is gone and that we will probobly never see a CEO of a billion dollar company with such a big heart.
I’ve heard he also worked overtime on Melee to ensure it’d release on time. Dude was the definition of selfless and it’s a damn shame he passed away at 55. Way too young.
But muh monies! Everyone knows you can only make money if you sell in China! But yes, it's clear they took China's side, and instead of making a lot of money, they performed censorship so that they could continue trying to make ALL OF THE MONEY
Not to mention if I remember correctly enforcement of the rules was incredibly uneven with some other players doing basically the same but getting off with slaps on the wrist compared with Blitzchung who they pretty much punished as hard as they could
Otaku as a big company you have also responsability over a lot of jobs.imagine if blizzard would have sided with blitzchung and the goverment would have thrown them out of the country ? How many jobs would have been destroyed ?
Paolo Pappalardo They wouldn’t have fired 800 staff members, many of whom were game devs during their most successful year on record if they cared about their employee’s livelihoods. It wasn’t a binary choice between siding with one or the other either. If they left Blitzchung alone, it never would have became a news story. They could have just changed their rules afterwards barring players from espousing political views in the future, staying neutral but instead they banned him and they’re keeping a rule that even they say lets them selectively ban whoever they want for whatever reason(s) they choose
My favorite thing about the "You think you want it, but you don't " debacle is that it happened to XIV as well. Yoshida, at a fanfest, was asked if he'd consider doing 1.0 servers. The man burst out laughing halfway through the question, even before the translator started translating the question, and responded with a single word. "N I G H T M A R E." There would be no classic servers, but because it was handled in such a charming way, the fans smiled and went along with it. Also 1.0 was boo boo bad, objective garbage fire.
I don't know what you expect to hear from the guy who was literally brought in to fix 1.0? The only thing that may be brought back from 1.0 are some of the storylines, but everything else really is a matter of rose tinted glasses. The game had problems reaching 30fps on the most beastly PC's of the time, the gameplay was extremely slow and clunky and server maintenance was horrifying. Not to mention that it was a financial failure. There's a reason why he specifically chose the word 'nightmare' as a response. His clarification afterwards is also important: It was not a one word response, just the initial word. You can't really compare this to vanilla WoW, which ran on a toaster, even in 2004, and was much more intuitive to play.
There are dozens of 1.0 video documenting how bad it was. Some are serious and some are memes but really very few people only want the novelty of experiencing it and the resources would be wasted on trying to bring back 1.0. Best case scenario, Yoshi P has a time machine quest instance where you can at least see what happened and do the quests for lore. But the coils of bahamut pretty much give a proper epilogue to 1.0.
Don't forget the 1.0 event they had. The lag, the disconnects it captured the essence perfectly. Maybe if they made some kind of memory event / cavern. Where you get chunks of the world before the big event.
It was even sadder watching this video now, not only with Blizz shitting the bed even more but with CD Projekt and Cyberpunk and even with TH-cam and the dislike removal
Michelle Hogan it was like a public execution I wouldn’t see till the outer worlds trailer “from the creators of the original fallout and the creators of Fallout: New Vegas” came up
Asmon touches on something I learned from DMing dungeons and dragons. Give players what they want and are expecting from you, but do it in a way that they weren't expecting. If you pull this off correctly, it leads to player satisfaction every time.
@@howareyoumoreofaclownthanme "easier said than done" No shit? If it was easier done than said, then it wouldn't be good... That's why you hire people who are, you know, *good at their job* to do shit.
@@howareyoumoreofaclownthanme possibly because nothing about that was actually subversive. It was just bad writing by an egomaniac with an inflated sense of his own talent. good subversion is actually Return of the Jedi. Luke wins, but not by killing Darth Vader. Fans get what they wanted (Luke winning), but not in the way they assumed he would, but i defy you to find anyone who found it unsatisfying. Does good subversion take talent? well, yeah, but if you're spending millions to develop a game, just go and fucking pay for talent...
@@howareyoumoreofaclownthanme "Subverting expectations" means "pissing off the audience on purpose", it doesn't mean pleasing them in a surprising way.
Blizzard's like that old friend that asks us for a loan and we give it to him remembering how he used to be before he got into drugs and legal trouble.
I was one of those that quit when MOP dropped. This is f/ing stupid i'm out. The game had already been declining for a while that was the last straw. They'd been making a lot of bad decisions ever since vanilla. I'm not buying the panda expansion. Expanding the f/ing level cap every expansion was f/ing stupid too. Like they were giving us a gift. Oh boy i get to do 3 days of repetitive grind quests to get max level again. Thanks a lot. Per character. F/ you very much.
@@dalion5976 Many of us do go through some periods. I have a lot of friends that actually went through periods like that. I disassociate until they get it out of their system. Strangely most of the ones on meth automatically disassociate. Many are doing great now. I would like to wish you the very best of luck in achieving what you hope to my friend.
I like how every time Asmon watches someone w/ a lick of creativity his chat says "loser" "this sucks" "weirdo" etc. But they'll eat up WoW animations/machinima up like good little kids. Wow!
i dont twitch so whenever i see these chats is it just an echo chamber of people spouting buzzwords and shit to themselves or what? It's fuckin retarded, every now and again someone will post something actually worth thinking about in chat but nobody gets a chance to read it.
@@kudolemon9888 yup, they're incapable of thinking for themselves, asmongold has to dictate their mindset. it's like they're programmed to hate on anything until asmongold says its good, then they'll praise it. it's kind of the reason i never played wow but like watching asmon play it - i just can't help but see the community as a bunch of retards which is probably not true but i cant see it any other way.
@@LomiKo im playing classic at the moment, I cant afford the new wow retail expansion + a membership and im having a decent time. I hope you dont let your observations cloud your judgement too much man.
Asmongold is mistaken about the Blitzchung and the casters. Prior to putting their heads down, Blitzchung already said that he supported Hong Kong (in Chinese), but its muffled due to his mask. Subsequently when asked about this, Blitzchung admitted that he never told the casters
also the idea of "don;t make political statements" about Blizz is a laugh riot, with Blizz making alot of political statements and taking hard line stances, but someone else makes a hard line stance suddenly they have a problem with it
I'm trying to understand about Asmogold mentality...to finally hear he said that he might be a moba player if Blizzard developed DOTA, I believe he is more of a brand fanatics, loyal to the producing company, not the product itself. There's a billion of deluded people like him in China and about 90 million of people like him who is hypocrite in their sense of morality in the CCP. He'd make a good Mao. Edit: wait till USA went to war with China or at least total cold war...you'll see what different "patriotic" tune he'll sing when the entire world went into a fervent communist witch hunt...XD
@@MrArthoz If you want to like something, its more likely that you will (try it and) like it. Do you seriously think that smash bros for instance is loved like it is bc it was objectively always the best game of its kind ? No its bc it was Nintendo characters who beat the sht out of each other and guess what, a lot of ppl got into these kind of games because of it. I disliked LoL I just started playing to have a game to play with my friends and I got into it, long story short, read the first sentence.
@@Phantasmen true, everyone have different motivation. I used to be very good at Dota with our own team of close friends but left the scene because I hate playing with strangers online... while my friends many becomes pro players in competitive games in the southeast Asia region. I love sitting behind watching them play like a pro during their daily routine, fun to watch but it's easy to lose all interest and motivation when you witness someone could play with inhuman petfection... Though many of us are now in late 30's or 40's so we are basically ancient old guys no longer valid for gaming publicity...lol. Most of my gaming time now just playing dwarf fortress, Witcher 3 and team park exploration of GW2...a quiet life for a man who is looking forward for his retirement days...also another reason I hate BDO because the competitive gaming suck me in at one point it becomes like a second job instead of just fun... So yeah, each have different motivation for love and hate but main thing is everyone should be free to express themselves while also respecting others' point of view... oppression and censuring dissenting or opposing opinion lead to tyranny and corruption... something which Asmongold should practice what he preach.
As someone whose first true mmo was FFXIV I was surprised by the divide that dungeon finder caused. As long as I played 14 there was always a duty finder to queue for dungeons and later raids. It never really stopped people from grouping it just made it easier for solo players to complete stuff because dungeons were tied directly into the story
That's because FFXIV is a new MMO. Basically a casual single player rpg with an online lobby, socializing is not required for everything. You couldn't play old MMOs as single player games. Like in FFXI you have to socialize to get a group to level up with, not just click some menus and get people who barely talk and might as well be bots. Sure you can socialize and get a group the old way in new MMOs, but that's very unoptimized, and why bother when you can just get a new full party with a couple clicks?
@@Down_Triangle a friend who played 11 said you needed a group to just take on enemies that just spawned in the world sounded tough but like you said they really wanted the community to be engaged. Which is why I'm playing bc classic cuz I wanna experience that stuff lol
@@OgreDLink Bc classic can't compare to FFXI (Classic). You cannot solo level in FFXI past a certain point. It's too difficult or slow. In BC you solo level from 1 to 58 basically by questing (The 58 paid boost killed pre-58 content). In BC you make a group to clear a dungeon or raid. In FFXI the most common groups are leveling groups.
It's because it wasn't there for practically 3 versions of the game and a MASSIVE part of the game became being a touch social, make actual connections to try and reduce wait time next time around, and actually learn to play the varied classes. In addition to this people were blacklisted in their servers when the screwed people over. There were in game repercussions, enacted by the players NOT Blizz or GMs, for in game anti social actions. It also lead to SOME people having to learn social skills among peers that were willing to teach them the hard way because you don't want to lose your only buffing pally. There was a genuine community being built by the players on each server. People helped and shared with each other (hell the first time I played, my friend gave me his log in credentials and let me play for a certain amount of time on my own character each day) many people had a real life friend or two online to play with. Anyway, the intro of RDF lead to an explosion in anti social actions like ninjaing, toxicity, bullying those newer or non-socially inclined all done by randos from a random server who's actions would not follow them. It also lead to fracturing within each server because it rewarded people for using the finder so there was loot left on the table if you did not use them leading to less PUGs. As raids became smaller and dungeons became easier PUGs were less necessary. As subscribers dropped it became a necessity BUT it exacerbated the issues mentioned above. It was evident when it was suggested that this would ruin the community that the players had created without the help of Blizzard but the action being taken (as it was seen) against the players WAS coming from the same company that, at least initially, was the exact same people playing the game.
As someone who tried out WoW after mists of pandaria: The feature made the world feel barren and completely anti-social. I felt like I was playing a single player MMO. In all the months I played, player interaction felt like an after thought. Doing dungeons were so trivial that people would try to speedrun the whole thing, giving you no time to take in the story or the atmosphere, and you could honestly clear most of them with your brain turned off and treating other players in your group like bots. Which robbed you of the opportunity to learn the mechanics or socialize. For comparison: I very briefly checked out unofficial classic servers and right from the get go the lack of convenience and increase of difficulty put me in situations where I was shepherded towards interacting with people even during very early leveling. Difficult mobs meant learning your abilities and co-operating with other players were the core of the experience. I never made it far enough to try out dungeons (I was paranoid about playing on pirate servers) but I assume the experience translated there as well. I caught a glimpse of what WoW as supposed to be like that modern conveniences robbed it from (such as dungeon finder). Can't speak for the FF game. Glad things worked out there.
Yeah me too! I was jizzing my pants running around the world like "OMG here Arthas fought Kel'Thuzad, OMG here is Uther's Tomb, OMG here Grom defeated Mannoroth. Was super exciting.
And it's a big reason why every expansion post WotLK kept getting worse and worse. The first two expansions and the core game were built upon and reimaginations of the RTS games. Once that well ran dry the MMO suffered for it.
@@NorthshireGaming Yeah 100% WOTLK was the last good one imo atleast, but i always personally disliked the flying mounts because it kinda ruined the world PvP aspect of it, even if there wasn't that much to begin with on that front, it was fun still.
i fall in love with this game few minutes after the creation of my NE, when i see the treant of dolanaar walking towards me. That moment is written in my childhood. i was stunned. When i reached Stratholme as well was a really incredible moment.
"Make a good game, make money" You are forgetting most of the people who knew how to make good games left the company by their own choice or have been fired. Its like if you asked David Benioff & D.B. Weiss to write the final season of game of thrones instead of George R.R. Martin. Oh wait...
If you look at the numbers at the Asian Mobile Market, making aleast 1 popular game for mobile makes perfect sense. All these hardcore oldschoolfans (which includes me) are more or less obsolete if you look into the growth of the asian market. You simply can not afford to not cater to the asian market.
@@bodybuilder6350 Well, when you look at money, is it more likely you will change the game in order to keep players that A) Have less time to play, pay the subscription fee anyway, spend money on XP boosts or buy characters because they dont have the time to grind XP and buy mounts because they dont even have friends to raid with...? OR You could focus on the guys that will only pay for the subscription fee because for them the game is about the Journey? Why do you think they are time gating things? Its to force the hardcore gamers to buy shit, slow down or get out of the server. One of these options requires less work from you, giving you higher returns in cash. If you ask me, the fact that people beleive "blizzard is out of touch" is actually gamers being out of touch with how the real world works. Will this kill WoW in the long run? SURE. Will Blizzard care? SURE. Does Bobby Co-dick care? HAHAHAHAHHHAHAHA. Yes, be is literally crying himself to sleep over how much money he is making every year.
I work for a studio that makes Game Cinematics, the reason that other game's cinematics have caught up/better than blizzard is because they are all outsourced to studios that are dedicated to making Cinematic Trailers/Cutscenes etc. Blizzard is actually a big client of ours.
IMO it's not that other companies have caught up to Blizzard, it's that Blizzard's cinematics have declined. They may be "okay" but they are nowhere near their height relative to what was possible at the time.
@@zeriel9148 I disagree. Their D4 cinematic was one of the best in industry. But yeah, a lot of people have left Blizzard Cinematics its basically not the same company any more. We did all their D2 cinematics, im not sure what the in house team is up to these days.
My brother-in-law literally talked to a blizzard dev at that Blizzcon about diablo immortal, and how it was so out of touch. The dev straight up told him, "it's not for us, it's for China". This is especially telling because it was BEFORE the Blizzard/China censorship controversy.
I used to adore this game, over time more and more of the game seemed to be created with the metric that'll almost force players to put in endless amounts of time, just to keep up to date with what was almost expected from all individuals who wanted to play at a high level. It's almost as if the design team who started had all dropped out by Lich king, and all these new developers just wanted to maximise cash flow, not user experience.
No idea why blizzard adds systems like artifact weapons, heart of Azeroth and covenants just to get rid of them after the expansion is over. Why not keep building and improving on these systems instead of creating entirely new systems to balance? (Which usually never happens until the last patch of the expansion). It’s super stupid
@@Kai_soze it is a illusion of something new and fresh that would hype the expansion ( and thats very important for a gaming company ) if you think of the artifact , neclass , covenant , it is just another tanlent tree ...
TBH some of my favorite WoW experiences were putting together a dungeon group in vanilla private servers and having to cold-call anyone I could find in /who in the right level range just to get the shit going in less than 20 minutes before people start signing off. The sheer amount of player interaction that was required to get anything done in vanilla was a beautiful balance that I've never seen nailed in any other game and ever since WoW classic launched, not only have the classic servers died but the private vanilla servers died as well. It's truly disheartening.
"almost" all of the great minds that made Blizzard are gone. There are so few of the OGs left the company is nothing but a shell of its former self. It's really sad. Like losing a friend IRL. RIP Blizzard Entertainment.
@@Stryker98 not a great example, last two dooms have been decent but rage 2 was fucking shit, rage 1 was meh, quake champions was a huge let down and complete mtx cancer, so they have released more shit than good lol
@@BodybuildingSteve The new Dooms IMO far outweigh the shit they've produced. Doom 2016 was a return to 90s FPS glory, while Doom Eternal Redefined how a FPS is played.
The person who got doxed, was a GM on the forums, who wrote his information on the thread, the one that had like 11K comments, to show how safe it was, and that most people we’re overreacting. Within 20-30 mins, it backfired and people started posting here he lived and were his kids went to school Etc etc.
Kind of reminds me of that CEO for that security-company that displayed his personal information on a bus and in commercials and drove around to show how good their security was and then got his identity stolen
They casters put their head down when he started putting on the goggles and mask. The casters didn't know what he was going to say, but had an idea it wasn't good. The Caster's themselves do not have the ability to stop the interview. That is production and the director there. A smart director there would of cut the feed and gone to commercials. fine the player fine, technically he did break the rules, but it still feels baD, and it is hypocritical. But the CAsters had nothing to do with this.
*BASED* no one seems to give a squirty shit about blizzards kneebending to dystopian fascists and assisting enemies of democracy in supressing criticisms of heinous crimes against hummanity. but hey wow bad amirite????
@@phantombigboss8429 I was legitimately delusional, the game got me out of depression cause it provided me enough challenge to look inside myself and fix my life so I can get better at it. But then I realized I loved the game more than the devs. The Activision shit made me wake up and move to fighting games like Guilty Gear strive since devs can... Love their games? Fucking unheard of. Good fun games that get you pumped. Now I can put my competitive outlet into something fun and socialize since fighting games take place in real life instead of in my room with strangers online that curse me out over stupid mistakes. I hate Overwatch.
With regards to not mentioning blitzchung during the Brack's Blizzcon address, you actually have to read between the lines: his "apology" could not only be taken as one for supporters of blitzchung and Free Hong Kong but was vague enough to be an apology to those in *opposition* to him and Free HK (i.e., the CCP in particular). It was purposefully written as to be vague enough to be taken as apology to BOTH sides, thereby invalidating any actual apology to anyone. This was also the last straw for me on supporting Blizzard as well. Bending the knee to the tankies? GFY Blizz.
It's why he's supported by none other than The Internet Historian. He watches all of the ads for IH, which is great because IH's ads are content in and of themselves.
@Drejul League is very restrictive with what you can build and actually get away with and even more restrictive with what champs you can play and get away with (unless you're a complete one-trick or you're a high elo smurf).
@Drejul In dota, you get supports as mids, mids as supports, Carry supports, support carries, Cancer legion jungle, Carry IO, Techies winning TI, and Support Kunkka. edit: also agree with the limited creativity part. No one wants the guy "build testing" in a ranked match. But it is hard to test a build without being in ranked.
1:22:47 The problem is, we've reached the endgame. Over the past several years, major game companies have done experiment after experiment and realized something big: They don't need to make good games to make money. In fact, they can put out broken dog shit and fans who are dedicated to the series/IP will buy it regardless. Then they'll buy a minor update dressed up and sold at the price of a new game the very next year. Fill it with MTX like in-game shop goodies and they will keep paying without hesitation.
@@furikurifan5 Yeah even Light's Hope had a single server with 10k+ players online at a time. Even months and months after release you'd be able to walk through starting zones and see plenty of people question new characters. Maybe layers were necessary at the launch where EVERYONE was in starting zones, but now with capital cities lagging from the normal traffic is just not good enough from a company that turns over billions of dollars.
@unknowning unknown You have no idea how anything works when it comes to server ffs, don't talk about a subject you know nothing about. Each server is separate and can be isolated, it's just a fucking huge computer with slots for processors and memory. The only reason it runs like shit is because the servers they use run on the minimum specs, or they put multiple wow "servers" (not the physical, but the virtual one, the one names in your game) on the same physical server to save on money even more. Whatever is their practice, there's nothing coomplicated about that, either they spend their fucking money to uppgrade them for the quality of life of their player by giving them a decent experience, or they get insulted for this bullshit and simulating "Stress test" that ALL go to shit without ANY FUCKING IMPROVEMENT. Stop spreading bullshit because you've never put a foot in a datacenter or ever felt like learning what any of this means.
And thats how every game with major expansions gets you dont play wow but play destiny 2 and im honestly gunna leave tje next dlc unless they change the system
53:36 While I agree that a business does not need to pander to its employees, getting fired just after finishing a big project just to deny you of that big bonus paycheck speaks volumes of the company's atrocious practices. I sure as hell ain't putting my resume towards them when I know that whatever work I do for them is much better done as a simple contractor/freelancer rather than an employee.
@@edwardben-eboh4787 There's no protection for working people. Welcome to capitalism. Rich get richer off of poor people then kill them. That's the fucking reality. Period.
It's business. Obviously it's a bit immoral but it's the most logical thing to do. As a game developer, when a project is finished our services really aren't needed very often unless we're working on another project, or an update to the existing project, and in that case they most likely needed neither at the time.
Damn, when Asmond said “and now you don’t remember the dungeon” as a comeback to the CEO saying people don’t remember spamming “LF Tank” in the chat…damn that hit like a brick but so true
When they said "Don't you guys have phones?," they literally could have answered that one question with "Yes, we are trying to reach out to a different market demographic," and been professional about it. It would have made sense, and likely sated a lot of the problem that was seen. They would have gotten shit for it, but they would have been truthful, and it would have eventually calmed down.
Still, announcing "on the grand OCCIDENTAL diablo stage, especially after DIII mess, as main event" a mobile phone game and justify "we want to appeal to other market" they'd get the short stick of the affair.
@@Regunes Yeah because the guy's answer made sense. It's a portable game, so their fan may like PC gaming but they can also like a portable game. It's really the fact they announced only that at such an important event.
thats the problem with most companies. i understand that they want to reach new audince with is not wrong but thye sometimes feel that they are just shoving their old fans to the side because they are not making them more money. that atitude on spiting on your old fans it was make me sad, or maybe im exagerating things idk but thats how it feels like.
Yea. I don't hate on companies expanding into popular markets. I want my favored companies to succeed and more money should mean more money to invest into their games. They just really handled it badly. They needed to express their continued desire to create D4 but that they want to give us this as something on the go and in the meantime. I think that mobile games, CAN, and WILL expand into the future and be legitimately playable. Real games. But, historically mobile games are dumbed down versions of a game and microtransactions exploiters. MCOC is a great example. An AMAZING game but get ready to spend thousands to compete. With Blizzards ongoing poor history, there is growingly less reason to trust their direction and intentions. But TBH, they blew it way behind just the phone comment. They failed to answer questions about if they wanted to make a playable PC version or care about their PC base at all.
If Diablo Immortal was also on PC as well as Mobile people would be more inclined to play it. Hell look at Genchin Impact, it's a literal Gacha game that's on mobile, PC, and PS4. It's a pretty damn great game, I dislike the monetization but it is a free to play Gacha game.
@@Soldruid The old wizard looking character that Asmon referred to in the beginning of the video as Gandalf was an impersonation of a Diablo character called Deckard Cain. If you clicked on him in Diablo 2 he would say "Stay a while and listen..."
"The shady thing is that they rehired these positions" This is actually pretty common in triple-A game companies, especially these based in countries when work laws are pretty loose like the USA. There is that thing of burning out when you expect your employees to be over 100% daily so that they can push out more work, but the cap on it is that it makes people require rest to -eventually- get back from the stress and tiredness it produces, both physically and mentally. What companies came with in response to that is the crunch. It consists in spreading tasks, organising work and putting a big focus on KPI and productivity so that your employees work far more than is healthy while on a project, then releasing that project far sooner than would have been healthily possible. Then, instead of having to wait for your workforce to rest before starting another project, you lay the crunched employees off and hire new, unbroken, dream-headed ones and start over. The people who are thrown away by these game companies are mostly people who aren't hirable anytime soon anyway because they have been worked to death and need lots of rest, sometimes counselling. What Blizzard was doing then and does now is not anywhere new, but it pains me to know that my -former- dream game developer is doing crunch. When it comes to Warcraft 3, this is just this in play. They have axed away resources from this project to reinject them elsewhere, mostly overwatch, but still made it so that they could have something to announce during BlizzCon. So, basically, the reforged thing was a way to have something to announce, run away with the cash people paid and then move on as if nothing happened.
the layoffs are also just a common tactic by many companies across all sectors because they view their workers as an expense, so to boost quarterly profits, they will lay people off seasonally regardless of how well the company is doing. down -3% better layoff 1,000 employees so it appears as -1.5% by end of quarter you're up 23% and it's your most profitable quarter ever? better layoff 1,000 people to make it 24.5% so it's EVEN MORE profitable. it's a lose-lose for their employees, their customers, and ultimately, even themselves, because the only one's who give a shit about quarterlies are the bean counters who unfortunately are running every facet of the show, even things that do not concern them. after a certain point when a company becomes a big enough company that answers to some big playing shareholders, they lose their important passion, the passion that created their greatness and become PURELY profit driven.
"Remember the old days when you had to spam "looking for a tank" and now you click a button and you're in? You don't remember that!" "And now I don't remember the dungeon.". Asmongold really hit the nail on the head in that off-hand comment. If I tried to list all the dungeons in every expansion, my memory would get spotty around the end of Lich King (what were those last 5 mans called again?). MoP is probably the last one where I even remember all of them. After WoD it's just a blur of shit.
@@codex5300 WoW was made for raiders with guilds back then. It forced people to play together and that's why we remember it fondly. Whenever it became viable to just solo WoW, it became shit. That's why it's good to need a tank, because it make you need a peer system and that means a guild. In turn you don't just quit the game, because your guild needs a good tank/heal or whatever and raiding drags you into the game with dailies and raid dates. The game was good, when it forced you to involve yourself in the world, even though that's what burned out people.
Studies show that if you have too many choices, you don't want to make a decision, if you ONLY HAVE DEADMINES your gonna play DEADMINES, if your around dead mines but want to do SFK your gonna have to travel a lot and your more than likely gonna pick DEADMINES and in doing that your gonna be like "wow I really wanna try SFK" and then if your playing with a group of friends eventually your gonna go get bored of deadmines (while remembering it) and go on to SFK and then after SFK your gonna find the next thing, while remembering all of it then eventually get nostalgic towards the old dungeons, the way they're doing this they're preventing nostalgia from being created, people arent going to feel nostalgic towards spending money and LFG buttons, everytime I get reexcited to play WoW I never ONCE think of that fucking LFG button, I trick myself into wanting to play WoW by expecting a community of people that wants to stick together and be friends and then that doesn't actually fucking exist unless you have friends IRL that plays WoW, which is non-existant at this point
I first played DOTA in 2004 in the 6th or 7th grade and soon after got more involved and interested in the community. I distinctly remember from the beginning the DOTA community with great vigor voiced a demand for support from blizzard to allow the game to reach its full potential. Blizzard did absolutely zero to help foster a community of passionate gamers, Blizzard just ignored the community and wrote DOTA off as being nothing of value. It is simply impossible to imagine how far they had their own heads up their own asses.
I know this is old but I played 100s of custom games on battle net on Warcraft! DOTA was one of many like tower defense etc… I was absolutely obsessed and loved that community. Shocking they never realized the potential there.
Man, it was painful watching Asmon simp so hard for Blizzard when it came to the lay-offs. He conceded that it was shady to refill the positions but then went on to keep defending them without seemingly understanding the implication of that action. Asmon, if you're reading this, the fact that they refilled those positions shows that those positions were not redundant; ergo, their justification for the act is a lie. You acknowledge it was shady of them but then go on to justify their actions using their given excuse that those positions were redundant and that they shouldn't have to keep employing people that aren't useful to the company, but we already know that wasn't the situation. That entire rant is completely irrelevant. Furthermore, even if you accept their given excuse the mass lay-off was still unjustifiable because those people weren't given the appropriate notice, they just had that bombshell dropped on them. There's no excuse for that. It's not like the higher ups of Blizzard all got together one day and suddenly realised they had to fire 800 people. It's something that would have been planned in advance, well in advance, and those employees could have and should have been given ample notice to allow them to find work in the meantime. Lets not forget this is the exact situation they put many aspiring professional gamers in when they suddenly pulled the rug on HoTS with no prior warning or even indication that the game was on its way out. McConnell is almost certainly spot-on, those employees were looking at raises and an upgrade in benefits packages, someone noticed, did the math and realised that it was more cost effective to "lay them off" and replace them than to keep them around. Honestly it's kind of frustrating to see Asmon make so many half-baked excuses for them in this situation - is it any wonder Blizzard are so out of touch or that their newest endeavours feel so passionless when they don't keep on the people that actually invested time and effort into building the games in the first place?
For Asmongold to change his wh... "loving" relationship with blizzard or even his obviously blind belief in his favorite company... is a fight against windmills... his only content is about WoW and the WoW community. Don't get me wrong, nothing bad about that. But not supporting Blizzards vision is like giving up his life at this point... sad but true. >>>>> I believe in the concept that every form of creation is it's own kind of art. You as the creator/group of creators, form something new out of a pool of thoughts and knowledge from your mind. You mix it up with many, many and even more of your emotions in the process, with visions in mind, growing bigger as the project goes on. You will create bonds with the people and even more with the project itself, in the process and at the end, when everything is said and done... the outcome is a true form of art and perfection in itself. Because you created something relateable as a human for other humans.
@Alex Blakley It's not where they coming from, it's where they going to. I know, i know it's always justice for everyone! But if it's only for the sake of justice alone... You can't defend every move from someone because he is very nice to you, good looking, smart or just famous for polarizing their favorite company like Asmongold (and as a meme for his viewers where he earns his money ofc). ;) Everyone has own opinions about stuff and from my perspective: Any company who treats their employies inhumanly bad or unfair in any way is a bad company. Isn't that pure logic? The reasons may be coming from somewhere, but anyway they oofed multiple times over the years now and it get's only worse. I'm not saying that blizzard and every game company like that should stop what they're doing and go to hell... nope just think about the health of your company long term. Treat your own people, your backbone with respect! You will benefit from it and we customers will also benefit from greater games then they are today.. you should praise the heroes and artists who create money out of thin air with technology and motivation and talent. Nurture people and see how they and your company will grow and just think about this for a second...: Wasn't this the Blizzard from the early days?! :O and you will understand where i and many critics are coming from.
I guess asmon is thinking about his future. Imagine him getting banned from wow for shittalking blizzard or pointing out the obvious shit they been doing over the last years. He is trying not to cross the line. If he does, blizzard will ban him from wow for some weird reason to justify it and boom - asmons only game and stream of income is done. He would still have enough viewers with other games, but he‘s not risking it.
I feel like the transition from Blizzard to Activision-Blizzard is modeled after the transition of Arthas to the Lich King. Edit: To expand... it's such a tragic thing to watch that melts your heart. But the small, additive choices that lead from start to "the breaking point" are individually understandable
@@hallo-mt5tx yeah, that said though we shouldnt forget why activision has that rep i mean what acti did to mw3 infinity ward team was scummy as hell and if there were any sort of unions or guilds it woulda never happened.
@@hallo-mt5tx one of the major reasons why they "partnered" was due to blizzard wanting to get out from under vivendi. The problem is that Blizzard's executives were by far more passive than that of activisions and they were devoured.
1:06:50 How can Zack say that Blitzchung's actions put jobs at risk when the debacle occurred AFTER 800 JOBS at Activision-Blizzard were dumped in an instant with basically LITTLE TO ZERO warning? He's also speculating about the commentators knowing in advance, which, in itself, IS NOT LOGICAL because logic requires EVIDENCE to function!
Warcraft 3 was my childhood, my teenage years. My favourite game by far and it literally made me jump out of my chair from excitement when they said they would remaster it… blizzard, one of the best game developers I thought ( never played wow ) how could that go wrong? I’m a sceptical person and never got hyped for any promises or early acces games. But for this I was actually hyped for a full year. Imagine the sheer disappointment and hatred for blizzard when they released the reforged.. that was truly the day blizzard died for me.
1:01:45 This part just makes me livid. "Obviously they colluded and allowed him to break the rules of the tournament" Does this man only listen to HALF of the facts of that incident?
Idk where he gets the collusion idea. Dude comes on wearing a gas mask, it's pretty fucking obvious what he's going to say. The casters would have to be total imbeciles not to see that one coming.
I lived for those 'getting the band back together' days... It was immersive, and made me feel like I was actually IN the World of Warcraft. (Edit: Oh gods, Scott's Tots?! lol)
1:18:25 McConnell: "No, no no, there's some good ones." (referring to the question if there are any good gaming companies." Chat: CDPR! PepeLaugh, they didn't know.
I've been playing WoW since BC. Since then, I've always wanted to go to Blizzcon. Every year I asked my parents, they said no. Finally, at the age of 23, I was able to go. Blizzcon of 2018. My first and only time I went to Blizzcon. The worst experience and a real let down. I didn't even go the second day, it was that bad. It was a sad day for me. :/
@unknowning unknown Because my expectations weren't met and I was upset about it after spending hundreds of dollars, and wanting to attend this convention since I was in middle school? I'm a total loser. You hit the nail on the head.
I feel bad for you, that must hurt, I don't think your a loser, a loser would have sayd "blizzcon 2018 was great I can't wait to play Diablo on my phone!" In my opinion at least
The casters didn't know, this was confirmed by blizzard Esports staff at the time which is why the backlash got bigger. They put their heads down because of the mask. But as we all know Asmond is never wrong KEKW
Further up is a comment saying very detailed how they couldn't stop him from doing it because he was invited to a live chat and had an agreement to put their heads down so he can make his announcement but they wouldn't be put in danger for it. So no one knows the truth about this, and what asmon says is in fact a clue for this being an arrangement.
Well it's old post but: if they knew about statement, they could issue some improvised statement about being non-political - hiding was worst solution in the end.
While half of Asmon's chat was going nuts with the Blitzchung deal, I can actually agree with both sides. I can agree that what Blitzchung did was something to be done, same way as non-violent protests. However, like non-violent protests, you can still be arrested but it's not as serious. Blitzchung did what he did, but not free from consequences. Still don't like what happened to the announcers though.
I think going after the announcers was a bit much but Blizzard was much too harsh on their punishment for Blitz, especially when an American team did the exact same thing but nothing happened to them until backlash forced them to act, and even then the punishment was nowhere near as bad as Blitz's.
Asmon doesn’t upload his videos to this channel. It’s people who I forget who they are sorry. They should get the credit Again sorry I forget your name
1:05:17 excuse me, what? they didnt collude with him. they have no choice but to be on air with him saying that. it's the production staff that controlls the cameras and shuts people off. they are also the ones who are always talking into the casters ears. the moment he put on the skimask, everyone knew what was about to happen, thats why they put their heads down.
So correct. I was surprised at that comment. The reason they ducked their heads is because the mask tipped them off as to what was coming. That doesn't mean collusion. It means they understand how the fuck China works, and the implications of what was about to go down.
One of my favourite gaming memories was when PoE announced a mobile game at their convention, and everyone thought it was a joke, a dig at Blizzard and Diablo Immortal, but then it turned out to be real.
"Do you think that every streamer or news caster should be able to inundate you with their political values?" Oof. This aged poorly with Ion's BLM statement, didn't it? Rules for thee but not for meeeee
@@rickyredbeard8274 People who say "its a human rights thing, not a political thing" generally have no idea what they're talking about. Its one of the most cliché types of political propoganda, "if you're with us you believe these minorities deserve a voice and if you're agaist us YOU'RE RACIST!!!". People aren't against BLM because they don't want equality or for black people to have human rights, people are against BLM because the organization is filled with nutjobs thay believe that white people have to give up some of their property to house a black person - just unconditionally. Even if we ignore the organization, BLM is associated with rioters turning Portland into a warzone where buildings of random people are lit on fire and burned down, where people fear that someone will break into their house and destroy all of their stuff. Please tell me what kind of "Human Rights" is this?
53:00 it was still very sh*tty and shady for such a large scale lay off, there's no way all of those people deserved to be fired as Asmon alludes to. And even so it's poor business management and practice up to that point where such a lay off was required, that is still Blizzards fault. Not only that but the timing and figures do show that, a least a portion of the money gained from firing and not paying those people, went straight into the executives pocket and it's disgusting greedy behaviour
Asmongloid had a tard take about layoffs and completely missed the point, of course it's profitable to lay off people but employees deserve the dignity of at least some job security and he completely ignored the point about CEOs getting 50 mil bonuses and pay because they leech the company with embezzlement. Asmongold doesn't realize the economic system is two sided and the owners and employees both factor into the balance. People want the best possible deal either way so if your employer fires you to save some money that's not worth
came home and saw that asmon had started watching this video on stream, he was 8 minutes in into a 30 minute video, i thought to myself that i probably missed about 30 minutes so ill watch it on youtube tomorrow
I like the part where Asmon talks down employees getting dumped as usual practices when Bliz really just ducked sales bonuses for revenue coming from work put forth into said finished/sold products
Oh he's just speaking "logic" though, since he's worked in so many high level corporations he knows exactly the thought processes of businessmen. Blizzard doesn't fire developers to avoid paying them, no, they fired those 800 developers that just spent several years learning the ins and outs of your system and they're no longer valuable to the company. The guy unfortunately has spent his entire life in a room. I agree with a lot of his perspectives but his view on company culture is ignorant at best and downright dangerous at worst.
@@LargerThanCats His point was that there is nothing inherently wrong with a company laying people off, as they do not have an obligation to retain people they no longer have a need for. The issue is the reason they were let go for, which as Devon Bardot pointed out is likely to dodge quarterly/annual bonus obligations and to avoid paying veteran programmer/dev salaries in favor of cutting costs by hiring/rehiring people at a lower salary. Which Asmon agreed was shitty when McConnell brought it up.
You should actually listen to everything he says before you judge his comment. Taking part of his comment out of context to get people upset is just really fucking dumb, you’re smarter than this.
@@Ultimataco He didn't take his comment out of context. Asmongold has extremely little work experience by his own admission. He really has no fucking idea what he's talking about and is just parroting a thought someone else might have given him about working in corporate America. There was no depth to his statement and for all the people who have long careers in corporate America we picked up on it instantly.
Disagree with what Asmongold says about the Blitzchung situation : even if Blizzard was "justified" in punishing Blitzchung, firing the casters was one step too far. Maybe they knew what he was gonna say ? What if they didn't? What if they realised it too late ? What happened to innocent until proven guilty ?
He is giving Blizzard the benefit of the doubt when he shouldn't be because Blizzard isn't acting in good faith. Companies never act in good faith. If they did then we wouldn't need to regulate them.
Surprised Asmon missed out on custom maps. - Also, the note about the Activision-Blizzard merger not being contraversal at the time. Asmon is correct, lots of people were concerned. Of course, even when it was first announced, we knew the negative effects would not be instant so there was still optimism knowing the short term was going to be fine.
I remember our guild was split between doom and gloom and temporary bliss but ultimate doom and gloom. Our server was most vocally negative about it for all of the reasons that came to fruition. Oddly enough though, one of our guild's NEVER unsubbed. I tried a later expansion with my bro and we ran into that dude. It was UNBELIEVABLE, it was like seeing an old friend who was clearly a master. He gave us a tour of the changes and ultimately said that he is there for the experience of WoW and would never unsubscribe until they made him. We got real life details updated and he is STILL playing. I played with him in classic again, in legion, and will in wotlk classic when he isn't playing retail. Much respect to that dude but the game shit itself not long after the merger.
9:07 I still also have the warcraft 3 BattleChest (the full game +the expansion, the manual, the guides for the game and the expansion campaigns and even a CD trial for wow) too bad Blizzard is no longer the game company we knew and loved 😞 those glory days are forever gone.
Well I still have to check that out, I no longer have a cd/DVD drive to install those games (I have a laptop now but no CD drive and the pc I used to play warcraft 3 is no more) but at this point is not even bother to use the CD keys and download the game from the official battlenet website knowing that the experience will be just as inferior as the reforged one.
I have WarCraft 1-2 boxes, Diablo 1 box, SC:BW battlechest, all 3 collectors boxes for StarCraft 2, 3 copies of Diablo 2 + LoD, WoW TBC battlechest, and I'm actually thinking about getting rid of all of this shit. Nostalgia wont hold if they are currently producing nonstop trash.
@@liam3104 You got to disable the game's access to the internet and use cracked server connections to play with pirates to play the old proper game if you got official/legit copy. Pirated version is literally better, play that if you want WC3.
yes thank you! i deactavited my wow account. im not saying everyone else should have but i have principles for fucks sake and blizzard is outed as more and more evil by the second. now qere hearing about all the raping and suicides. so. if any of yall still give blizzard money. die screaming.
16:13 Blizzard lost because they didn't create DoTA, and the original creator was on Valve's side. so it was his intellectual property as he created that game mode/style/idea, Blizzard just offered the platform for the creator to implement it.. it's no different than how Graphic Artist can use programs like Photoshop and Illustrator to create artwork.. that doesn't mean Adobe owns the rights to the art created using their platforms. Blizzard just dropped the ball and didn't buy out the rights and also offer a job and hire on the creator of DoTA like Valve did... Blizzard wanted it all for free, so they suffered the loss for their arrogance.
Actually "Steve "Guinsoo" Feak" created DotA, which was hugely inspired by Aeon of Strife, a custom game in Starcraft. DotA wasn't the only custom game that was inspired by AoS, but it became the most popular. I'm guessing Guinsoo gave IceFrog the rights to the game (and name) when he started working on League of Legends
@@pierreo33 you don't own or cant copyright works "inspired by' other works.. otherwise you'll have a lot less music, art, etc that are created from inspiration and influence from other music, art, etc before it. For example the Beatles influenced a whole host of bands and even blatant knock-off beatle-wannabe imitations... even the beatles themselves were heavily influenced by rock n' roll music before them, as this influence can be heard on their earlier albums, and of course various cover songs. so doesn't mean the beatles automatically own or have any claim to copyright of those works created by other musicians who took direct inspiration from their work. or keeping it in context of gaming.. think about the whole host of games that were created in direct response and influenced by Wolfenstein (1992) and Doom (1993), ID software doesn't automatically own or have any claim to copyright of those works created by other developers who took direct inspiration from their work.
@@pierreo33 Guinsoo worked less than a year or so on it tho, he created the recipe system tho, which is a big deal, but there was people before him and icefrog maintained the game for years afterwards. Still my point remains, Blizzard had opportunity somewhere along all that time to offer contract and they didn't.
Demanding freedom for Hong Kong will violate policy’s and laws until they get it. What do you expect oppressed people to do? That blizzard event was the only platform he had to reach enough people where one might be able to make a difference.
But entire Chinese thing is also very confusing. Since both casters are from Taiwan, Taiwan is autonomous from mainland PRC so they don't need to put down their head for that, the only thing it represent is that they agree with his stand. Also it is known in the Hong Kong community that wearing those masks means they are of that faction, they don't need to know he will say things like that beforehand until the second he put off his mask.
What you expect the Guy is a full on NPC, normie, doing his Political Correctness stuff. He doesn't even realize that he's defending communism, together with blizzard and any other whore that want to end the west. Is like defending the people that want to destroy you. The communists in China are pretty good in subversion it seems. Asmon is nothing more than a con-artist doing PR for blizzard all the time, and every company really. Must be some beta shit going on.
1:25:20 "Will Blizzard ever redeem themselves?" Funny and sad to hear this as of these times after the CA lawsuit, the Jason Schreier article about Warcraft III Reforged, the state of the game, etc...
I not that much of a fan of Asmong since i don't see twitch. I can see that he try to defend Blizzard in what he can (as long is not impossible to defend them) so maybe he is not impartial and that why he forgets these things. Well that is how it looks to an outsider like me Edit: I do like his content, i just won't go to twitch, that is what i meant in the first sentence, also sorry for the bad english, i am from Mexico
I like how your friend malded at economic systems, but you were able to rein him in and provide a much more comprehensive perspective to the issue. Kinda rare thing to see nowadays.
1:02:00 1: People furious about the Blitzchung ban 2: Asmon: "Blizzard had to take action, dO yOu WaNT eVreY StReAM to Be InVaDeD LikE tHaT? I don't understand why it's different" 3: Asmon proceeds to explain why it's different and why people are furious 4: ?!
1. Ofc 2. There was a signed contract about not expressing political views. Which he did, so how is the action not justified? 3. He explained that blizzard caves in to whatever political view suits them the best(or what ever china tells them to do), which is just pure bullshit and people should be mad about that. 4. Why are you so emotional about it?
@@Gorgovoid173 Yeah, you cant really "side" with any opinion other than what the general population thinks. Because then you are "one of them". Cant fathom how we have not gotten further as humans...
When did it become news that companies will side with whatever the majority of their current and potential consumers agree with??? I don't understand the outrage since blizz had every right to punish the guy.
Nostalrius was actually the best WoW experience of my life and I played from Beta to WotLK. Best community I ever played with online. If you missed it I kinda feel bad for you cause it was that good.
@Michael Garrett Yeah but they matured, have families now, mellowed out, it was good, and it's infact the young that keep me from playing classic, and BDO.
This really reminds of times when video games were a niche and people who made them genuinely cared about their players Now it’s just business, like stupid TV shows or news
Blizzard telling that poor kid he didn’t want classic - really that was the mindset there wasn’t it. “You *think* you want a workplace free from sexual harassment, but actually you don’t “
@@visha0203 Dota 1 started as a Mod for Warcraft 3 in 2003. Then some of the maker split up. 2 of them goes under Riot Games making LoL in 2009 to become the "spiritual successor " of Dota 1. The other one stayed untill Valve come to hire the other one in 2013 to create Dota 2 as a sequel/standalone game. You can tell it's "official" because Dota 2 keep their hero, heroes name, item and map, while LoL is just a "easy version of Dota 2". That's why LoL and Dota 2 player doesn't really get along.
i just wanted to say something about nostalrius. In my country , germany , it would actually not even be a case for copyright infringement . Blizz's claim of loosing money would not be taken into account since they do not offer these addons anymore. Would Blizz at any point have provided these addons as playable , then yes. But the arguement , that they were loosing customers and therefor money , when these servers were not producing any income since they existed through donations, was invalid. Sadly though they do hold the rights on the intellectual goods and so they could still shut down . But that in the end made them look like , sorry , assholes. Because the people were not coming back by shutting down those servers . And so in the end blizz just went after Nostalrius for nothing.
What's wild is how Brack uses Pride support and supporting protests against police/racial violence and whatnot as a shield against criticism. Like, I'm sure he, like most people in Blizzard, probably believes strongly in these causes in his personal life. It's a realistic expectation given how many of them live in California, which is known for having some of the most liberal politics in the country around its cities. And that's all to be said there because it's ultimately just a side-note, context for the following (so anyone trying to start some dumb-ass, histrionic argument in the comment thread for or against it can save their time; I don't know or care where you fall on the spectrum on these issues, some rando malding in my comments isn't going to change my mind, and I'm not going to interface with those comments because life is finite): The company uses these causes as a shield. Every time Blizzard is in the middle of a firestorm, Brack walks out with a BLM or Pride pin on his shirt while blandly apologizing, saying he 'assumes accountability' but offers nothing in regards to how he will accept accountability, what steps will be taken to address the issue that incited the criticism, or what will be done to prevent this issue from arising again in the future. He stops at part 1 of the three-part apology every single time, and he weaponizes the internet's tendency toward tribalism to get away with it. He's relying on those BLM and Pride pins to give critics pause, because it's easy to twist things around to present people criticizing someone in that apparel as criticizing the cause the apparel promotes. And that's why I have no respect for Brack as a person. He's a weak-kneed, cowardly yes man who exists to bow his head and thank his masters for the opportunity to execute their will, and he'll use minority causes to shield himself from critics so he never has to actually do anything about what he's getting criticized for.
I'm 37, I remember taking my little guides and booklets to the local arcade, waiting my turn from all the "bigger boys" and just huddling the cabinet watching them perform all the moves and fatalities and talk about all the little bullshit cheats and secrets they'd "heard from a mate" or lied about seeing in magazines. My parents never cared, it was just a game, and I doubt I'd have the strength to uppercut somebodies head off for real. My uncle however? Man, we played the game in front of our cousin on MegaDrive (Genesis), performed a fatality, and when I turned around to gauge his reaction to the "awesome" blood on the TV screen... kid was somewhere between deathly-pale and green.
I work for a Japanese company here in the US and they absolutely value the employees and business above profit. Profit important only to keep the business afloat whereas US companies the profit goes straight up the pyramid to the execs and everyone else is left with the scraps. Worked for both, but the Japanese style just feels much better to be apart of.
@@argumentumadhominem3977 it depends on the job. But you should know that almost every position in japan outside of service industry makes salary and the average hours worked per week is between 40 and 50 and very rarely goes over this. Having talked to several of the Japanese employees we have at my company this is pretty standard. On a side note their cost of living is very high in the bigger cities but they have much better health insurance rates and other benefits often leading to better quality of life. Here I america if you get paid time off at your job you are lucky and forget about paid paternity leave in most cases for parents. Its just two very different cultures and mentalities.
Japanese business can teach a lot to American businesses. It's not ALL about a profit margin, it's also about honor and putting out an amazing product that consumers will love. A prime example of this is Final Fantasy 14.
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@Thunder Warrior ok
@Definitely Maybe 40
Sometimes you sound just like Jordan B Peterson. Your voice is like a younger version of his too. :P
I like your reaction to this. You give very genuine responses. It helps to hear from others on this issue. Also, you have the same headset as me!
Just started watching and you’re a really genuine dude 👍
Awesome reaction video. Love your commentary on my video! This has been an awesome watch. 35min in
Love the content Act Man, can’t wait for the hype video around the Xbox event next week!
I appreciate your honesty and transparency in your vid Act Man. Wish you the best
Act man himself my man
one of us :O
great to see yr respond dude
Oh and his point about Iwata coding Gold and Silver is 100% true, he also helped out loads in more than just that Pokemon game, he helped Gamefreak aswell as loads of other departments within Nintendo itself when it came to coding and such as he himself was a programmer. He was a freaking legend and it breaks my heart to think he is gone and that we will probobly never see a CEO of a billion dollar company with such a big heart.
is the most expensive game in the world and delivers very little.
I’ve heard he also worked overtime on Melee to ensure it’d release on time. Dude was the definition of selfless and it’s a damn shame he passed away at 55. Way too young.
He also had a major part in the coding of Earthbound/Mother 2, if I recall correctly he helped remake it from scratch.
Iwata was a great man.
I don't know but I think CDProject RED is our last bastion
When the Gen 2 source code leaked some months ago, we actually found the Iwata compression itself! Pretty cool piece of gaming history.
No one is mad about Blizzard not taking a side on Hong Kong, they’re mad because Blizzard clearly took China’s side on the issue
But muh monies! Everyone knows you can only make money if you sell in China!
But yes, it's clear they took China's side, and instead of making a lot of money, they performed censorship so that they could continue trying to make ALL OF THE MONEY
Not to mention if I remember correctly enforcement of the rules was incredibly uneven with some other players doing basically the same but getting off with slaps on the wrist compared with Blitzchung who they pretty much punished as hard as they could
Otaku as a big company you have also responsability over a lot of jobs.imagine if blizzard would have sided with blitzchung and the goverment would have thrown them out of the country ? How many jobs would have been destroyed ?
Paolo Pappalardo They wouldn’t have fired 800 staff members, many of whom were game devs during their most successful year on record if they cared about their employee’s livelihoods. It wasn’t a binary choice between siding with one or the other either. If they left Blitzchung alone, it never would have became a news story. They could have just changed their rules afterwards barring players from espousing political views in the future, staying neutral but instead they banned him and they’re keeping a rule that even they say lets them selectively ban whoever they want for whatever reason(s) they choose
What you expect China has shares in blizzard
My favorite thing about the "You think you want it, but you don't " debacle is that it happened to XIV as well.
Yoshida, at a fanfest, was asked if he'd consider doing 1.0 servers. The man burst out laughing halfway through the question, even before the translator started translating the question, and responded with a single word.
"N I G H T M A R E."
There would be no classic servers, but because it was handled in such a charming way, the fans smiled and went along with it.
Also 1.0 was boo boo bad, objective garbage fire.
Yeah there really are only like a few dozen freaks who want a 1.x server for FFXIV.
I'm one of them but I don't actually think they should do it.
I don't know what you expect to hear from the guy who was literally brought in to fix 1.0?
The only thing that may be brought back from 1.0 are some of the storylines, but everything else really is a matter of rose tinted glasses. The game had problems reaching 30fps on the most beastly PC's of the time, the gameplay was extremely slow and clunky and server maintenance was horrifying. Not to mention that it was a financial failure. There's a reason why he specifically chose the word 'nightmare' as a response. His clarification afterwards is also important: It was not a one word response, just the initial word.
You can't really compare this to vanilla WoW, which ran on a toaster, even in 2004, and was much more intuitive to play.
I think id want it just to experience what it was kinda like
There are dozens of 1.0 video documenting how bad it was. Some are serious and some are memes but really very few people only want the novelty of experiencing it and the resources would be wasted on trying to bring back 1.0.
Best case scenario, Yoshi P has a time machine quest instance where you can at least see what happened and do the quests for lore. But the coils of bahamut pretty much give a proper epilogue to 1.0.
Don't forget the 1.0 event they had. The lag, the disconnects it captured the essence perfectly. Maybe if they made some kind of memory event / cavern. Where you get chunks of the world before the big event.
seeing this in 2021.
man did blizzard decline alright.
It's like a divebomb
@@julien7337 Bok ooooooo oof 😅 know
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@@TheAdarkerglow out of touch with their employees..... No No their was plenty of touching going on. That's the problem lol
Them CD Project Red comments didn't age well LOL
exactly what i thought rn
Yesss I was looking for this comment before i made it lmao
Shows how you can be blind just for a few good products
@@egirlcafemanager7119 happens to the best of us eventually money is more important when it comes to games/movies
You Either Die A Hero, Or You Live Long Enough To See Yourself Become The Villain
chat: "everyone loves cd projekt"
This didn't age well 😂
*for console peasents, yes. Lets play and new next gen game on a console with a hardware that was outdated on release!
lolz
@@semiramisubw4864 well the first cyberpunk trailer was for xbone/ps4 generation. donkey.
@@semiramisubw4864 you cant absolutely play cyberpunk on a last gen
When you get a ssd for fucking hundred bucks 😂😂😂😂
Just mad a 499 dollar console is more capable than just rig....
Blizzard: you don’t want vanilla and we won’t provide
Fan: I’ll make my own
Fans: Yes!
Blizzard: REEEEE! YOU DONT WANT THAT!
"Fallen from grace" is an understatement from what is happening now. just wow.
cant fall from grace when all og people left before shit snow now
4 months later and the shit show is still going and exponentially worse with every new info released to the public
@@vxxiii4160 Stealing breastmilk... I mean it's like a bad parody of a villain or something now.
@@salthcreative5540 I dread what we learn next honestly, every few weeks it just gets worse and worse.
It was even sadder watching this video now, not only with Blizz shitting the bed even more but with CD Projekt and Cyberpunk and even with TH-cam and the dislike removal
lol, why would a convention for pc gamers want to see a mobile game introduction. That shit was so funny
And on top of that the "is this an out of season April fools joke" guy absolutely killed them
Michelle Hogan it was like a public execution I wouldn’t see till the outer worlds trailer “from the creators of the original fallout and the creators of Fallout: New Vegas” came up
@@michellehogan4527 Well Blizzard DID made an April fools joke about diablo for smartphone a few years before announcing Imortal
blizzard got me again
"You guys have phones right???!!!111111" -Blizzard completely missing the point.
Asmon touches on something I learned from DMing dungeons and dragons. Give players what they want and are expecting from you, but do it in a way that they weren't expecting. If you pull this off correctly, it leads to player satisfaction every time.
Easier said than done, since the director of the new Star Wars was memed to hell and back for 'subverting expectations'
well said
@@howareyoumoreofaclownthanme "easier said than done"
No shit? If it was easier done than said, then it wouldn't be good...
That's why you hire people who are, you know, *good at their job* to do shit.
@@howareyoumoreofaclownthanme possibly because nothing about that was actually subversive. It was just bad writing by an egomaniac with an inflated sense of his own talent.
good subversion is actually Return of the Jedi. Luke wins, but not by killing Darth Vader. Fans get what they wanted (Luke winning), but not in the way they assumed he would, but i defy you to find anyone who found it unsatisfying.
Does good subversion take talent? well, yeah, but if you're spending millions to develop a game, just go and fucking pay for talent...
@@howareyoumoreofaclownthanme "Subverting expectations" means "pissing off the audience on purpose", it doesn't mean pleasing them in a surprising way.
Mans reaction to a 30 minute video is feature length that’s amazing, love this guy and act man as well
Should be a similar video soon...
Blizzard's like that old friend that asks us for a loan and we give it to him remembering how he used to be before he got into drugs and legal trouble.
I was one of those that quit when MOP dropped. This is f/ing stupid i'm out. The game had already been declining for a while that was the last straw. They'd been making a lot of bad decisions ever since vanilla. I'm not buying the panda expansion.
Expanding the f/ing level cap every expansion was f/ing stupid too. Like they were giving us a gift. Oh boy i get to do 3 days of repetitive grind quests to get max level again. Thanks a lot. Per character. F/ you very much.
Awww that hit me as I’m that dude but I’m trying to turn my life around I’m clean for a year now so.
@@dalion5976 Many of us do go through some periods. I have a lot of friends that actually went through periods like that. I disassociate until they get it out of their system. Strangely most of the ones on meth automatically disassociate. Many are doing great now. I would like to wish you the very best of luck in achieving what you hope to my friend.
@@dalion5976 15 months?
@@dalion5976 how are you doing now?
I like how every time Asmon watches someone w/ a lick of creativity his chat says "loser" "this sucks" "weirdo" etc. But they'll eat up WoW animations/machinima up like good little kids. Wow!
i dont twitch so whenever i see these chats is it just an echo chamber of people spouting buzzwords and shit to themselves or what? It's fuckin retarded, every now and again someone will post something actually worth thinking about in chat but nobody gets a chance to read it.
@@kudolemon9888 yup, they're incapable of thinking for themselves, asmongold has to dictate their mindset. it's like they're programmed to hate on anything until asmongold says its good, then they'll praise it. it's kind of the reason i never played wow but like watching asmon play it - i just can't help but see the community as a bunch of retards which is probably not true but i cant see it any other way.
@@LomiKo im playing classic at the moment, I cant afford the new wow retail expansion + a membership and im having a decent time. I hope you dont let your observations cloud your judgement too much man.
Twitch chat is almost on par with Twitter as far as cancerous goes, the emotes are worse than Kpop stan vocabulary (sksksks, "tea").
@@Stryker98 accurate af man. They're like gnats lol.
Asmongold is mistaken about the Blitzchung and the casters. Prior to putting their heads down, Blitzchung already said that he supported Hong Kong (in Chinese), but its muffled due to his mask. Subsequently when asked about this, Blitzchung admitted that he never told the casters
Exactly.
also the idea of "don;t make political statements" about Blizz is a laugh riot, with Blizz making alot of political statements and taking hard line stances, but someone else makes a hard line stance suddenly they have a problem with it
I'm trying to understand about Asmogold mentality...to finally hear he said that he might be a moba player if Blizzard developed DOTA, I believe he is more of a brand fanatics, loyal to the producing company, not the product itself. There's a billion of deluded people like him in China and about 90 million of people like him who is hypocrite in their sense of morality in the CCP. He'd make a good Mao.
Edit: wait till USA went to war with China or at least total cold war...you'll see what different "patriotic" tune he'll sing when the entire world went into a fervent communist witch hunt...XD
@@MrArthoz If you want to like something, its more likely that you will (try it and) like it. Do you seriously think that smash bros for instance is loved like it is bc it was objectively always the best game of its kind ? No its bc it was Nintendo characters who beat the sht out of each other and guess what, a lot of ppl got into these kind of games because of it. I disliked LoL I just started playing to have a game to play with my friends and I got into it, long story short, read the first sentence.
@@Phantasmen true, everyone have different motivation. I used to be very good at Dota with our own team of close friends but left the scene because I hate playing with strangers online... while my friends many becomes pro players in competitive games in the southeast Asia region. I love sitting behind watching them play like a pro during their daily routine, fun to watch but it's easy to lose all interest and motivation when you witness someone could play with inhuman petfection...
Though many of us are now in late 30's or 40's so we are basically ancient old guys no longer valid for gaming publicity...lol.
Most of my gaming time now just playing dwarf fortress, Witcher 3 and team park exploration of GW2...a quiet life for a man who is looking forward for his retirement days...also another reason I hate BDO because the competitive gaming suck me in at one point it becomes like a second job instead of just fun...
So yeah, each have different motivation for love and hate but main thing is everyone should be free to express themselves while also respecting others' point of view... oppression and censuring dissenting or opposing opinion lead to tyranny and corruption... something which Asmongold should practice what he preach.
As someone whose first true mmo was FFXIV I was surprised by the divide that dungeon finder caused. As long as I played 14 there was always a duty finder to queue for dungeons and later raids. It never really stopped people from grouping it just made it easier for solo players to complete stuff because dungeons were tied directly into the story
That's because FFXIV is a new MMO. Basically a casual single player rpg with an online lobby, socializing is not required for everything.
You couldn't play old MMOs as single player games. Like in FFXI you have to socialize to get a group to level up with, not just click some menus and get people who barely talk and might as well be bots.
Sure you can socialize and get a group the old way in new MMOs, but that's very unoptimized, and why bother when you can just get a new full party with a couple clicks?
@@Down_Triangle a friend who played 11 said you needed a group to just take on enemies that just spawned in the world sounded tough but like you said they really wanted the community to be engaged. Which is why I'm playing bc classic cuz I wanna experience that stuff lol
@@OgreDLink Bc classic can't compare to FFXI (Classic). You cannot solo level in FFXI past a certain point. It's too difficult or slow.
In BC you solo level from 1 to 58 basically by questing (The 58 paid boost killed pre-58 content).
In BC you make a group to clear a dungeon or raid.
In FFXI the most common groups are leveling groups.
It's because it wasn't there for practically 3 versions of the game and a MASSIVE part of the game became being a touch social, make actual connections to try and reduce wait time next time around, and actually learn to play the varied classes. In addition to this people were blacklisted in their servers when the screwed people over. There were in game repercussions, enacted by the players NOT Blizz or GMs, for in game anti social actions. It also lead to SOME people having to learn social skills among peers that were willing to teach them the hard way because you don't want to lose your only buffing pally. There was a genuine community being built by the players on each server. People helped and shared with each other (hell the first time I played, my friend gave me his log in credentials and let me play for a certain amount of time on my own character each day) many people had a real life friend or two online to play with. Anyway, the intro of RDF lead to an explosion in anti social actions like ninjaing, toxicity, bullying those newer or non-socially inclined all done by randos from a random server who's actions would not follow them. It also lead to fracturing within each server because it rewarded people for using the finder so there was loot left on the table if you did not use them leading to less PUGs. As raids became smaller and dungeons became easier PUGs were less necessary. As subscribers dropped it became a necessity BUT it exacerbated the issues mentioned above. It was evident when it was suggested that this would ruin the community that the players had created without the help of Blizzard but the action being taken (as it was seen) against the players WAS coming from the same company that, at least initially, was the exact same people playing the game.
As someone who tried out WoW after mists of pandaria: The feature made the world feel barren and completely anti-social. I felt like I was playing a single player MMO. In all the months I played, player interaction felt like an after thought. Doing dungeons were so trivial that people would try to speedrun the whole thing, giving you no time to take in the story or the atmosphere, and you could honestly clear most of them with your brain turned off and treating other players in your group like bots. Which robbed you of the opportunity to learn the mechanics or socialize.
For comparison: I very briefly checked out unofficial classic servers and right from the get go the lack of convenience and increase of difficulty put me in situations where I was shepherded towards interacting with people even during very early leveling. Difficult mobs meant learning your abilities and co-operating with other players were the core of the experience. I never made it far enough to try out dungeons (I was paranoid about playing on pirate servers) but I assume the experience translated there as well. I caught a glimpse of what WoW as supposed to be like that modern conveniences robbed it from (such as dungeon finder). Can't speak for the FF game. Glad things worked out there.
The best part of WoW when it came out was after playing soo much WC3, seeing a huge treant walking near you, leaders, etc. was so awesome
Yeah me too! I was jizzing my pants running around the world like "OMG here Arthas fought Kel'Thuzad, OMG here is Uther's Tomb, OMG here Grom defeated Mannoroth. Was super exciting.
And it's a big reason why every expansion post WotLK kept getting worse and worse. The first two expansions and the core game were built upon and reimaginations of the RTS games.
Once that well ran dry the MMO suffered for it.
@@NorthshireGaming Yeah 100% WOTLK was the last good one imo atleast, but i always personally disliked the flying mounts because it kinda ruined the world PvP aspect of it, even if there wasn't that much to begin with on that front, it was fun still.
Fucking, this.
i fall in love with this game few minutes after the creation of my NE, when i see the treant of dolanaar walking towards me. That moment is written in my childhood. i was stunned. When i reached Stratholme as well was a really incredible moment.
"Make a good game, make money"
You are forgetting most of the people who knew how to make good games left the company by their own choice or have been fired.
Its like if you asked David Benioff & D.B. Weiss to write the final season of game of thrones instead of George R.R. Martin. Oh wait...
Too soon man
@@clawsthelaw9854 My ex used to say the same.
underrated comment lol
If you look at the numbers at the Asian Mobile Market, making aleast 1 popular game for mobile makes perfect sense. All these hardcore oldschoolfans (which includes me) are more or less obsolete if you look into the growth of the asian market. You simply can not afford to not cater to the asian market.
@@bodybuilder6350 Well, when you look at money, is it more likely you will change the game in order to keep players that A) Have less time to play, pay the subscription fee anyway, spend money on XP boosts or buy characters because they dont have the time to grind XP and buy mounts because they dont even have friends to raid with...?
OR
You could focus on the guys that will only pay for the subscription fee because for them the game is about the Journey?
Why do you think they are time gating things? Its to force the hardcore gamers to buy shit, slow down or get out of the server.
One of these options requires less work from you, giving you higher returns in cash.
If you ask me, the fact that people beleive "blizzard is out of touch" is actually gamers being out of touch with how the real world works.
Will this kill WoW in the long run? SURE. Will Blizzard care? SURE.
Does Bobby Co-dick care? HAHAHAHAHHHAHAHA. Yes, be is literally crying himself to sleep over how much money he is making every year.
I work for a studio that makes Game Cinematics, the reason that other game's cinematics have caught up/better than blizzard is because they are all outsourced to studios that are dedicated to making Cinematic Trailers/Cutscenes etc. Blizzard is actually a big client of ours.
IMO it's not that other companies have caught up to Blizzard, it's that Blizzard's cinematics have declined. They may be "okay" but they are nowhere near their height relative to what was possible at the time.
@@zeriel9148 I disagree. Their D4 cinematic was one of the best in industry. But yeah, a lot of people have left Blizzard Cinematics its basically not the same company any more. We did all their D2 cinematics, im not sure what the in house team is up to these days.
@@lukewarmape603 no you didn't
@@youtubeuser206 I wasn’t personally on the projects, but the studio I work for did. Axis Studios made all of the Diablo 2 remaster cutscenes.
@@lukewarmape603 nope I promise you not because I did
" Your Reddit has better art. " That actually aged really well considering all the Y'shtola art.
My brother-in-law literally talked to a blizzard dev at that Blizzcon about diablo immortal, and how it was so out of touch. The dev straight up told him, "it's not for us, it's for China". This is especially telling because it was BEFORE the Blizzard/China censorship controversy.
I used to adore this game, over time more and more of the game seemed to be created with the metric that'll almost force players to put in endless amounts of time, just to keep up to date with what was almost expected from all individuals who wanted to play at a high level. It's almost as if the design team who started had all dropped out by Lich king, and all these new developers just wanted to maximise cash flow, not user experience.
because corporate power sunk its teeth into the video game industry as a whole in recent years
Max Mears didn't expect to see a rust youtuber here
the "A" team hasn't been working on the game since Ulduar
Get back to my Rust content.
Please
@unknowning unknown maybe but its just gotten worse
"Next expansion is hopefully good" and here we are again with Shadowlands LOL
I am glad I never returned to wow mid right after BFA
losing my artifact to that stupid neckless
that was the straw for me
Copy/past your comment in a video about the new expansion six months down the line.
No idea why blizzard adds systems like artifact weapons, heart of Azeroth and covenants just to get rid of them after the expansion is over. Why not keep building and improving on these systems instead of creating entirely new systems to balance? (Which usually never happens until the last patch of the expansion). It’s super stupid
@@Kai_soze it is a illusion of something new and fresh that would hype the expansion ( and thats very important for a gaming company ) if you think of the artifact , neclass , covenant , it is just another tanlent tree ...
TBH some of my favorite WoW experiences were putting together a dungeon group in vanilla private servers and having to cold-call anyone I could find in /who in the right level range just to get the shit going in less than 20 minutes before people start signing off. The sheer amount of player interaction that was required to get anything done in vanilla was a beautiful balance that I've never seen nailed in any other game and ever since WoW classic launched, not only have the classic servers died but the private vanilla servers died as well. It's truly disheartening.
"almost" all of the great minds that made Blizzard are gone. There are so few of the OGs left the company is nothing but a shell of its former self. It's really sad. Like losing a friend IRL.
RIP Blizzard Entertainment.
@@tasherxx_ think blizzard are bungie are doing bad... how about rare...
Great minds from Blizzard = Blizzard North (gone)
All the OGs leaving doesent automatically make a company bad, look at Id Software for example.
@@Stryker98 not a great example, last two dooms have been decent but rage 2 was fucking shit, rage 1 was meh, quake champions was a huge let down and complete mtx cancer, so they have released more shit than good lol
@@BodybuildingSteve The new Dooms IMO far outweigh the shit they've produced. Doom 2016 was a return to 90s FPS glory, while Doom Eternal Redefined how a FPS is played.
The person who got doxed, was a GM on the forums, who wrote his information on the thread, the one that had like 11K comments, to show how safe it was, and that most people we’re overreacting.
Within 20-30 mins, it backfired and people started posting here he lived and were his kids went to school Etc etc.
Kind of reminds me of that CEO for that security-company that displayed his personal information on a bus and in commercials and drove around to show how good their security was and then got his identity stolen
@@Dead25m It was Lifelock. They're still in business somehow.
They casters put their head down when he started putting on the goggles and mask. The casters didn't know what he was going to say, but had an idea it wasn't good. The Caster's themselves do not have the ability to stop the interview. That is production and the director there. A smart director there would of cut the feed and gone to commercials. fine the player fine, technically he did break the rules, but it still feels baD, and it is hypocritical. But the CAsters had nothing to do with this.
Source?
I'm actually still boycotting blizzard games over the blitzchung situation xD
Last Blizzard game I bought was Overwatch and its shit game to me.
*BASED*
no one seems to give a squirty shit about blizzards kneebending to dystopian fascists and assisting enemies of democracy in supressing criticisms of heinous crimes against hummanity.
but hey wow bad amirite????
@@phantombigboss8429 I was legitimately delusional, the game got me out of depression cause it provided me enough challenge to look inside myself and fix my life so I can get better at it. But then I realized I loved the game more than the devs. The Activision shit made me wake up and move to fighting games like Guilty Gear strive since devs can... Love their games? Fucking unheard of. Good fun games that get you pumped. Now I can put my competitive outlet into something fun and socialize since fighting games take place in real life instead of in my room with strangers online that curse me out over stupid mistakes. I hate Overwatch.
Right there with ya! Blitzchung happened, and I dipped out.
With regards to not mentioning blitzchung during the Brack's Blizzcon address, you actually have to read between the lines: his "apology" could not only be taken as one for supporters of blitzchung and Free Hong Kong but was vague enough to be an apology to those in *opposition* to him and Free HK (i.e., the CCP in particular). It was purposefully written as to be vague enough to be taken as apology to BOTH sides, thereby invalidating any actual apology to anyone. This was also the last straw for me on supporting Blizzard as well.
Bending the knee to the tankies? GFY Blizz.
37:20 "And now you don't remember the dungeon" truest fucking shit I've ever heard.
The way asmondgold handles recation videos seems really respectful, he always links the creators stuff and he's super respectful
It's why he's supported by none other than The Internet Historian. He watches all of the ads for IH, which is great because IH's ads are content in and of themselves.
Also the fact that he adds a lot of his own commentary, making the reaction worthwhile and not just another way to watch the original.
Yes
"how could blizzard continue to get into legal trouble"
Blizzard: "hold my beer"
FBI: "SUCH DEVASTATION!!!"
In hindsight, I am so extremely happy Blizzard didn't get Dota.
@@Mochachocakon Yeah, the loose meta is what I love about it as well. You can make anything work, and that is true even in the highest level of play.
@Drejul The fact that you think he's talking about builds says enough 😂
@Drejul My dude how you playing multiplayer games with those people skills? Joining a thread to shit on someone, weird ass shit.
@Drejul League is very restrictive with what you can build and actually get away with and even more restrictive with what champs you can play and get away with (unless you're a complete one-trick or you're a high elo smurf).
@Drejul In dota, you get supports as mids, mids as supports, Carry supports, support carries, Cancer legion jungle, Carry IO, Techies winning TI, and Support Kunkka. edit: also agree with the limited creativity part. No one wants the guy "build testing" in a ranked match. But it is hard to test a build without being in ranked.
1:22:47 The problem is, we've reached the endgame. Over the past several years, major game companies have done experiment after experiment and realized something big: They don't need to make good games to make money. In fact, they can put out broken dog shit and fans who are dedicated to the series/IP will buy it regardless. Then they'll buy a minor update dressed up and sold at the price of a new game the very next year. Fill it with MTX like in-game shop goodies and they will keep paying without hesitation.
sounds dumb to say it , but things are like this cause CorpGuy wanted a new Mercedes
Best part about Nostalrius is how well their servers managed even without layering...
Blizzard is multymill company and nost were some random guys from basement. Still better servers
@unknowning unknown Yeah, and million times more money to invest in them.
While I'm sure that contributes, isn't the real metric we care about # of players in a zone before it starts lagging the fuck out?
@@furikurifan5 Yeah even Light's Hope had a single server with 10k+ players online at a time. Even months and months after release you'd be able to walk through starting zones and see plenty of people question new characters. Maybe layers were necessary at the launch where EVERYONE was in starting zones, but now with capital cities lagging from the normal traffic is just not good enough from a company that turns over billions of dollars.
@unknowning unknown You have no idea how anything works when it comes to server ffs, don't talk about a subject you know nothing about.
Each server is separate and can be isolated, it's just a fucking huge computer with slots for processors and memory.
The only reason it runs like shit is because the servers they use run on the minimum specs, or they put multiple wow "servers" (not the physical, but the virtual one, the one names in your game) on the same physical server to save on money even more.
Whatever is their practice, there's nothing coomplicated about that, either they spend their fucking money to uppgrade them for the quality of life of their player by giving them a decent experience, or they get insulted for this bullshit and simulating "Stress test" that ALL go to shit without ANY FUCKING IMPROVEMENT.
Stop spreading bullshit because you've never put a foot in a datacenter or ever felt like learning what any of this means.
44:43 love how everyone in the chat was so sure about next expansion (shadowlands) being good. that aged well.
And thats how every game with major expansions gets you dont play wow but play destiny 2 and im honestly gunna leave tje next dlc unless they change the system
53:36 While I agree that a business does not need to pander to its employees, getting fired just after finishing a big project just to deny you of that big bonus paycheck speaks volumes of the company's atrocious practices. I sure as hell ain't putting my resume towards them when I know that whatever work I do for them is much better done as a simple contractor/freelancer rather than an employee.
@@edwardben-eboh4787 There's no protection for working people. Welcome to capitalism. Rich get richer off of poor people then kill them. That's the fucking reality. Period.
well said
It's business. Obviously it's a bit immoral but it's the most logical thing to do. As a game developer, when a project is finished our services really aren't needed very often unless we're working on another project, or an update to the existing project, and in that case they most likely needed neither at the time.
Damn, when Asmond said “and now you don’t remember the dungeon” as a comeback to the CEO saying people don’t remember spamming “LF Tank” in the chat…damn that hit like a brick but so true
When they said "Don't you guys have phones?," they literally could have answered that one question with "Yes, we are trying to reach out to a different market demographic," and been professional about it. It would have made sense, and likely sated a lot of the problem that was seen. They would have gotten shit for it, but they would have been truthful, and it would have eventually calmed down.
Still, announcing "on the grand OCCIDENTAL diablo stage, especially after DIII mess, as main event" a mobile phone game and justify "we want to appeal to other market" they'd get the short stick of the affair.
@@Regunes Yeah because the guy's answer made sense. It's a portable game, so their fan may like PC gaming but they can also like a portable game. It's really the fact they announced only that at such an important event.
thats the problem with most companies. i understand that they want to reach new audince with is not wrong but thye sometimes feel that they are just shoving their old fans to the side because they are not making them more money. that atitude on spiting on your old fans it was make me sad, or maybe im exagerating things idk but thats how it feels like.
Yea. I don't hate on companies expanding into popular markets. I want my favored companies to succeed and more money should mean more money to invest into their games. They just really handled it badly. They needed to express their continued desire to create D4 but that they want to give us this as something on the go and in the meantime.
I think that mobile games, CAN, and WILL expand into the future and be legitimately playable. Real games. But, historically mobile games are dumbed down versions of a game and microtransactions exploiters. MCOC is a great example. An AMAZING game but get ready to spend thousands to compete. With Blizzards ongoing poor history, there is growingly less reason to trust their direction and intentions.
But TBH, they blew it way behind just the phone comment. They failed to answer questions about if they wanted to make a playable PC version or care about their PC base at all.
If Diablo Immortal was also on PC as well as Mobile people would be more inclined to play it. Hell look at Genchin Impact, it's a literal Gacha game that's on mobile, PC, and PS4. It's a pretty damn great game, I dislike the monetization but it is a free to play Gacha game.
1:18:34 a moment of silence for the poor souls who wrote "Cd project red" at this very moment
Missed a chance to say "Stay a while and listen..."
I was just waiting for it too! Feelsbadman :(
I was expecting it
@@Soldruid The old wizard looking character that Asmon referred to in the beginning of the video as Gandalf was an impersonation of a Diablo character called Deckard Cain. If you clicked on him in Diablo 2 he would say "Stay a while and listen..."
@@chunkydumper6156 Diablo 1. Deckard Cain was an important NPC that helped identify magic weapons.
Why the f Blizz killed cain -----.-----
"The shady thing is that they rehired these positions"
This is actually pretty common in triple-A game companies, especially these based in countries when work laws are pretty loose like the USA.
There is that thing of burning out when you expect your employees to be over 100% daily so that they can push out more work, but the cap on it is that it makes people require rest to -eventually- get back from the stress and tiredness it produces, both physically and mentally.
What companies came with in response to that is the crunch. It consists in spreading tasks, organising work and putting a big focus on KPI and productivity so that your employees work far more than is healthy while on a project, then releasing that project far sooner than would have been healthily possible. Then, instead of having to wait for your workforce to rest before starting another project, you lay the crunched employees off and hire new, unbroken, dream-headed ones and start over.
The people who are thrown away by these game companies are mostly people who aren't hirable anytime soon anyway because they have been worked to death and need lots of rest, sometimes counselling.
What Blizzard was doing then and does now is not anywhere new, but it pains me to know that my -former- dream game developer is doing crunch.
When it comes to Warcraft 3, this is just this in play. They have axed away resources from this project to reinject them elsewhere, mostly overwatch, but still made it so that they could have something to announce during BlizzCon. So, basically, the reforged thing was a way to have something to announce, run away with the cash people paid and then move on as if nothing happened.
good to know
the layoffs are also just a common tactic by many companies across all sectors because they view their workers as an expense, so to boost quarterly profits, they will lay people off seasonally regardless of how well the company is doing.
down -3% better layoff 1,000 employees so it appears as -1.5% by end of quarter
you're up 23% and it's your most profitable quarter ever? better layoff 1,000 people to make it 24.5% so it's EVEN MORE profitable.
it's a lose-lose for their employees, their customers, and ultimately, even themselves, because the only one's who give a shit about quarterlies are the bean counters who unfortunately are running every facet of the show, even things that do not concern them.
after a certain point when a company becomes a big enough company that answers to some big playing shareholders, they lose their important passion, the passion that created their greatness and become PURELY profit driven.
"Remember the old days when you had to spam "looking for a tank" and now you click a button and you're in? You don't remember that!" "And now I don't remember the dungeon.". Asmongold really hit the nail on the head in that off-hand comment. If I tried to list all the dungeons in every expansion, my memory would get spotty around the end of Lich King (what were those last 5 mans called again?). MoP is probably the last one where I even remember all of them. After WoD it's just a blur of shit.
I just remember them as the saronite loot fiestas, good times.
spamming for a hour to get a tank sucked balls and no way ever would i ever play a game like that. Games that don't need tanks are better.
@@codex5300 WoW was made for raiders with guilds back then. It forced people to play together and that's why we remember it fondly. Whenever it became viable to just solo WoW, it became shit. That's why it's good to need a tank, because it make you need a peer system and that means a guild. In turn you don't just quit the game, because your guild needs a good tank/heal or whatever and raiding drags you into the game with dailies and raid dates. The game was good, when it forced you to involve yourself in the world, even though that's what burned out people.
Studies show that if you have too many choices, you don't want to make a decision, if you ONLY HAVE DEADMINES your gonna play DEADMINES, if your around dead mines but want to do SFK your gonna have to travel a lot and your more than likely gonna pick DEADMINES and in doing that your gonna be like "wow I really wanna try SFK" and then if your playing with a group of friends eventually your gonna go get bored of deadmines (while remembering it) and go on to SFK and then after SFK your gonna find the next thing, while remembering all of it then eventually get nostalgic towards the old dungeons, the way they're doing this they're preventing nostalgia from being created, people arent going to feel nostalgic towards spending money and LFG buttons, everytime I get reexcited to play WoW I never ONCE think of that fucking LFG button, I trick myself into wanting to play WoW by expecting a community of people that wants to stick together and be friends and then that doesn't actually fucking exist unless you have friends IRL that plays WoW, which is non-existant at this point
@@codex5300 Sir I believe you are looking for single player games, they will be more up your alley.
I first played DOTA in 2004 in the 6th or 7th grade and soon after got more involved and interested in the community. I distinctly remember from the beginning the DOTA community with great vigor voiced a demand for support from blizzard to allow the game to reach its full potential. Blizzard did absolutely zero to help foster a community of passionate gamers, Blizzard just ignored the community and wrote DOTA off as being nothing of value. It is simply impossible to imagine how far they had their own heads up their own asses.
It's crazy how many games originated in Warcraft 3. MOBAs, tower defenses...
I know this is old but I played 100s of custom games on battle net on Warcraft! DOTA was one of many like tower defense etc… I was absolutely obsessed and loved that community. Shocking they never realized the potential there.
SAME!!!!
@@pierreo33Tower defense started in SC1/BW, but I would say WC3 refined the idea and made it its best self.
Man, it was painful watching Asmon simp so hard for Blizzard when it came to the lay-offs.
He conceded that it was shady to refill the positions but then went on to keep defending them without seemingly understanding the implication of that action. Asmon, if you're reading this, the fact that they refilled those positions shows that those positions were not redundant; ergo, their justification for the act is a lie. You acknowledge it was shady of them but then go on to justify their actions using their given excuse that those positions were redundant and that they shouldn't have to keep employing people that aren't useful to the company, but we already know that wasn't the situation. That entire rant is completely irrelevant.
Furthermore, even if you accept their given excuse the mass lay-off was still unjustifiable because those people weren't given the appropriate notice, they just had that bombshell dropped on them. There's no excuse for that. It's not like the higher ups of Blizzard all got together one day and suddenly realised they had to fire 800 people. It's something that would have been planned in advance, well in advance, and those employees could have and should have been given ample notice to allow them to find work in the meantime. Lets not forget this is the exact situation they put many aspiring professional gamers in when they suddenly pulled the rug on HoTS with no prior warning or even indication that the game was on its way out.
McConnell is almost certainly spot-on, those employees were looking at raises and an upgrade in benefits packages, someone noticed, did the math and realised that it was more cost effective to "lay them off" and replace them than to keep them around.
Honestly it's kind of frustrating to see Asmon make so many half-baked excuses for them in this situation - is it any wonder Blizzard are so out of touch or that their newest endeavours feel so passionless when they don't keep on the people that actually invested time and effort into building the games in the first place?
True
For Asmongold to change his wh... "loving" relationship with blizzard or even his obviously blind belief in his favorite company... is a fight against windmills... his only content is about WoW and the WoW community. Don't get me wrong, nothing bad about that. But not supporting Blizzards vision is like giving up his life at this point... sad but true.
>>>>> I believe in the concept that every form of creation is it's own kind of art.
You as the creator/group of creators, form something new out of a pool of thoughts and knowledge from your mind. You mix it up with many, many and even more of your emotions in the process, with visions in mind, growing bigger as the project goes on. You will create bonds with the people and even more with the project itself, in the process and at the end, when everything is said and done... the outcome is a true form of art and perfection in itself. Because you created something relateable as a human for other humans.
Can I get a tl;dr
@Alex Blakley It's not where they coming from, it's where they going to. I know, i know it's always justice for everyone! But if it's only for the sake of justice alone... You can't defend every move from someone because he is very nice to you, good looking, smart or just famous for polarizing their favorite company like Asmongold (and as a meme for his viewers where he earns his money ofc). ;) Everyone has own opinions about stuff and from my perspective: Any company who treats their employies inhumanly bad or unfair in any way is a bad company. Isn't that pure logic? The reasons may be coming from somewhere, but anyway they oofed multiple times over the years now and it get's only worse. I'm not saying that blizzard and every game company like that should stop what they're doing and go to hell... nope just think about the health of your company long term. Treat your own people, your backbone with respect! You will benefit from it and we customers will also benefit from greater games then they are today.. you should praise the heroes and artists who create money out of thin air with technology and motivation and talent. Nurture people and see how they and your company will grow and just think about this for a second...: Wasn't this the Blizzard from the early days?! :O and you will understand where i and many critics are coming from.
I guess asmon is thinking about his future. Imagine him getting banned from wow for shittalking blizzard or pointing out the obvious shit they been doing over the last years. He is trying not to cross the line. If he does, blizzard will ban him from wow for some weird reason to justify it and boom - asmons only game and stream of income is done.
He would still have enough viewers with other games, but he‘s not risking it.
I feel like the transition from Blizzard to Activision-Blizzard is modeled after the transition of Arthas to the Lich King.
Edit: To expand... it's such a tragic thing to watch that melts your heart. But the small, additive choices that lead from start to "the breaking point" are individually understandable
Big true.
Friends and good times. It really feels sad.
I don't think you know what "melts your heart" means.
Bobby and Activision clearly a big point where it went wrong. Bobby was thinking how to leverage Blizzard IP for profit before ink was put to paper
@@hallo-mt5tx yeah, that said though we shouldnt forget why activision has that rep i mean what acti did to mw3 infinity ward team was scummy as hell and if there were any sort of unions or guilds it woulda never happened.
@@hallo-mt5tx one of the major reasons why they "partnered" was due to blizzard wanting to get out from under vivendi. The problem is that Blizzard's executives were by far more passive than that of activisions and they were devoured.
@@hallo-mt5tx a merger with Activision is how they got out from under the vivendi
@@hallo-mt5tx Yes, this is the same with Bungie, people making claims it was all Activision and Bungie also had a hand in all that monatization.
@@McconneIIRet I should start reviewing memes! 🤣
1:06:50 How can Zack say that Blitzchung's actions put jobs at risk when the debacle occurred AFTER 800 JOBS at Activision-Blizzard were dumped in an instant with basically LITTLE TO ZERO warning? He's also speculating about the commentators knowing in advance, which, in itself, IS NOT LOGICAL because logic requires EVIDENCE to function!
There is evidence though they put their head down before he even said anything whether he’s correct is debatable but there is evidence
44:20 this is why FF14 devs have to play the game as part of their job role.
Well, they sure don't play Monk in PvE content :/
That should be a requirement for EVERY software company dev. How the hell can a developer improve a game without actually playing it
@@2Syndras1Cup But... its getting an overhaul? And we knew that for a while now.
blizzard: "you want BFA"
me: "i think i do, but i dont"
No I don’t want that
rambeck brad no
rambeck brad I don’t want BFA
bfa is the 1st expansion that made me unsubscribe
literal boring ass garbage content, storytelling and class design at its worst in decades
rambeck brad none of us want bfa.. ur alone mate
The casual "and now you don't remember the dungeons" at 37:27 as he reached for a drink was the most scathing thing I have heard in here oof lol.
underrated comment
For me classic was what made me realise what I really enjoyed in an MMO, the social interaction and community. Retail has none of that.
EVERYTHING makes sense once you include a simple element: GREED.
Nailed it 🔨
1:05:50
It's kind of ridiculous that everybody started calling him a "China's simp" just for trying to understand the other side
@@accent1666 trolls will be trolls
@Optimus Troll sad that no one has payed this comment any attention.
I think you mean, once you include "woke social justice garbage."
Warcraft 3 was my childhood, my teenage years. My favourite game by far and it literally made me jump out of my chair from excitement when they said they would remaster it… blizzard, one of the best game developers I thought ( never played wow ) how could that go wrong? I’m a sceptical person and never got hyped for any promises or early acces games. But for this I was actually hyped for a full year. Imagine the sheer disappointment and hatred for blizzard when they released the reforged.. that was truly the day blizzard died for me.
1:01:45 This part just makes me livid. "Obviously they colluded and allowed him to break the rules of the tournament" Does this man only listen to HALF of the facts of that incident?
Idk where he gets the collusion idea. Dude comes on wearing a gas mask, it's pretty fucking obvious what he's going to say. The casters would have to be total imbeciles not to see that one coming.
I lived for those 'getting the band back together' days... It was immersive, and made me feel like I was actually IN the World of Warcraft. (Edit: Oh gods, Scott's Tots?! lol)
1:18:25 McConnell: "No, no no, there's some good ones." (referring to the question if there are any good gaming companies."
Chat: CDPR!
PepeLaugh, they didn't know.
OH NO NO NO
@Rodrigo Tassara ID software too, doom eternal is amazing.
Obsidian they did fallout better than Bethesda
@Rodrigo Tassara I agree with From and Sucker Punch, but Rockstar? Rockstar is such a bad company. Just go and see how they treat their employees
@@mauriceanderson5413 Bloodborne, Dark Souls 1, Dark Souls 3....
I've been playing WoW since BC. Since then, I've always wanted to go to Blizzcon. Every year I asked my parents, they said no. Finally, at the age of 23, I was able to go. Blizzcon of 2018. My first and only time I went to Blizzcon. The worst experience and a real let down. I didn't even go the second day, it was that bad. It was a sad day for me. :/
@unknowning unknown Get a life
@unknowning unknown Because my expectations weren't met and I was upset about it after spending hundreds of dollars, and wanting to attend this convention since I was in middle school? I'm a total loser. You hit the nail on the head.
I feel bad for you, that must hurt, I don't think your a loser, a loser would have sayd "blizzcon 2018 was great I can't wait to play Diablo on my phone!" In my opinion at least
Yo you were a part of history. This is the most memorable blizzcon to date and you were there!
The casters didn't know, this was confirmed by blizzard Esports staff at the time which is why the backlash got bigger. They put their heads down because of the mask. But as we all know Asmond is never wrong KEKW
Well unless blizzard Esports staff can read minds they have no way of knowing if they knew or not since the casters can do a thing called lying
Further up is a comment saying very detailed how they couldn't stop him from doing it because he was invited to a live chat and had an agreement to put their heads down
so he can make his announcement but they wouldn't be put in danger for it.
So no one knows the truth about this, and what asmon says is in fact a clue for this being an arrangement.
Wait, I'm missing something. Why did they put their heads down because of the mask? What does the mask do?
Well it's old post but: if they knew about statement, they could issue some improvised statement about being non-political - hiding was worst solution in the end.
While half of Asmon's chat was going nuts with the Blitzchung deal, I can actually agree with both sides. I can agree that what Blitzchung did was something to be done, same way as non-violent protests. However, like non-violent protests, you can still be arrested but it's not as serious. Blitzchung did what he did, but not free from consequences. Still don't like what happened to the announcers though.
I think going after the announcers was a bit much but Blizzard was much too harsh on their punishment for Blitz, especially when an American team did the exact same thing but nothing happened to them until backlash forced them to act, and even then the punishment was nowhere near as bad as Blitz's.
Dude he's still streaming, this was uploaded the second he was done watching the video live
Good. I’m stuck at work and need me some asmongler highlights!
Yeah these editors are really great
Dude must have god tier internet uploading so fast
Asmon doesn’t upload his videos to this channel. It’s people who I forget who they are sorry. They should get the credit
Again sorry I forget your name
@@daedralord1 Catdanny and DailyDoseofAsmongold
1:05:17 excuse me, what? they didnt collude with him. they have no choice but to be on air with him saying that. it's the production staff that controlls the cameras and shuts people off. they are also the ones who are always talking into the casters ears.
the moment he put on the skimask, everyone knew what was about to happen, thats why they put their heads down.
So correct. I was surprised at that comment. The reason they ducked their heads is because the mask tipped them off as to what was coming. That doesn't mean collusion. It means they understand how the fuck China works, and the implications of what was about to go down.
"No King rules forever my son" :(
"UWU"
R.I.P. Madseason
Square Enix were ahead of there time with graphics ats this time
They've ALWAYS been so so good.
One of my favourite gaming memories was when PoE announced a mobile game at their convention, and everyone thought it was a joke, a dig at Blizzard and Diablo Immortal, but then it turned out to be real.
"Do you think that every streamer or news caster should be able to inundate you with their political values?"
Oof. This aged poorly with Ion's BLM statement, didn't it?
Rules for thee but not for meeeee
Its ok as long as it's pro-regime.
What happened?
It sucks that wanting equality for black people has become a "political" thing instead of a "human rights" thing.
@@rickyredbeard8274 People who say "its a human rights thing, not a political thing" generally have no idea what they're talking about. Its one of the most cliché types of political propoganda, "if you're with us you believe these minorities deserve a voice and if you're agaist us YOU'RE RACIST!!!".
People aren't against BLM because they don't want equality or for black people to have human rights, people are against BLM because the organization is filled with nutjobs thay believe that white people have to give up some of their property to house a black person - just unconditionally. Even if we ignore the organization, BLM is associated with rioters turning Portland into a warzone where buildings of random people are lit on fire and burned down, where people fear that someone will break into their house and destroy all of their stuff.
Please tell me what kind of "Human Rights" is this?
@@rickyredbeard8274 Give me *one* example of a legal right black people don't have that every other race has.
I'll wait.
1:25:00 Putting aside how bad CD Projekt was in nailing down their release date, it's crazy how much this statement changed since Cyberpunk came out
53:00 it was still very sh*tty and shady for such a large scale lay off, there's no way all of those people deserved to be fired as Asmon alludes to. And even so it's poor business management and practice up to that point where such a lay off was required, that is still Blizzards fault. Not only that but the timing and figures do show that, a least a portion of the money gained from firing and not paying those people, went straight into the executives pocket and it's disgusting greedy behaviour
Asmongloid had a tard take about layoffs and completely missed the point, of course it's profitable to lay off people but employees deserve the dignity of at least some job security and he completely ignored the point about CEOs getting 50 mil bonuses and pay because they leech the company with embezzlement. Asmongold doesn't realize the economic system is two sided and the owners and employees both factor into the balance. People want the best possible deal either way so if your employer fires you to save some money that's not worth
That part. Felt like he wants to be Corp so bad.. crap on the little people.
I love Asmogolds takes... on everything but Blizzard. Unfortunately when it comes to Blizzard he has a blindside and his fanboy comes out.
Socialism for the rich, capitalism for everyone else.
@@bonchbonch this persons clearly employed by russia
@@maxbuckley9762 It's true. In the US, big corporations and banks get money from the government and don't pay taxes
came home and saw that asmon had started watching this video on stream, he was 8 minutes in into a 30 minute video, i thought to myself that i probably missed about 30 minutes so ill watch it on youtube tomorrow
Why didn’t you just check how much time passed??
@@ChinnuWoW cus it was late and i get up early to go to work
I like the part where Asmon talks down employees getting dumped as usual practices when Bliz really just ducked sales bonuses for revenue coming from work put forth into said finished/sold products
Oh he's just speaking "logic" though, since he's worked in so many high level corporations he knows exactly the thought processes of businessmen. Blizzard doesn't fire developers to avoid paying them, no, they fired those 800 developers that just spent several years learning the ins and outs of your system and they're no longer valuable to the company. The guy unfortunately has spent his entire life in a room. I agree with a lot of his perspectives but his view on company culture is ignorant at best and downright dangerous at worst.
@@LargerThanCats His point was that there is nothing inherently wrong with a company laying people off, as they do not have an obligation to retain people they no longer have a need for.
The issue is the reason they were let go for, which as Devon Bardot pointed out is likely to dodge quarterly/annual bonus obligations and to avoid paying veteran programmer/dev salaries in favor of cutting costs by hiring/rehiring people at a lower salary. Which Asmon agreed was shitty when McConnell brought it up.
Listen to the entire thing again from start to finish, but slowly.
You should actually listen to everything he says before you judge his comment. Taking part of his comment out of context to get people upset is just really fucking dumb, you’re smarter than this.
@@Ultimataco He didn't take his comment out of context. Asmongold has extremely little work experience by his own admission. He really has no fucking idea what he's talking about and is just parroting a thought someone else might have given him about working in corporate America. There was no depth to his statement and for all the people who have long careers in corporate America we picked up on it instantly.
38:22 imagine having a guy with that atrocity of a haircut telling anyone: "You're out of touch"
Wait what? That Blizzard person is a man? I've thought that was a fat lady with poor luck in the chest gene lottery for years.
Man I remember playing Diablo and Warcraft 2 when I was in highschool back in the mid to late 90's. Talk about a trip down to memory lane.
Those were the days
*Back in the day when the fans would go above and beyond who even started their own legacy.... RIP Jarod Nandin, we still miss ya you beautiful man!*
Disagree with what Asmongold says about the Blitzchung situation : even if Blizzard was "justified" in punishing Blitzchung, firing the casters was one step too far.
Maybe they knew what he was gonna say ? What if they didn't? What if they realised it too late ?
What happened to innocent until proven guilty ?
He is giving Blizzard the benefit of the doubt when he shouldn't be because Blizzard isn't acting in good faith. Companies never act in good faith. If they did then we wouldn't need to regulate them.
No crime was committed
Absolutely agree. And a lot of he his points is very boot licking, it's absolutely tragic how much he defended this shit company.
Surprised Asmon missed out on custom maps. - Also, the note about the Activision-Blizzard merger not being contraversal at the time. Asmon is correct, lots of people were concerned. Of course, even when it was first announced, we knew the negative effects would not be instant so there was still optimism knowing the short term was going to be fine.
And that certainly didn’t end well in the long term doesn’t it?
I remember our guild was split between doom and gloom and temporary bliss but ultimate doom and gloom. Our server was most vocally negative about it for all of the reasons that came to fruition. Oddly enough though, one of our guild's NEVER unsubbed. I tried a later expansion with my bro and we ran into that dude. It was UNBELIEVABLE, it was like seeing an old friend who was clearly a master. He gave us a tour of the changes and ultimately said that he is there for the experience of WoW and would never unsubscribe until they made him. We got real life details updated and he is STILL playing. I played with him in classic again, in legion, and will in wotlk classic when he isn't playing retail. Much respect to that dude but the game shit itself not long after the merger.
9:07 I still also have the warcraft 3 BattleChest (the full game +the expansion, the manual, the guides for the game and the expansion campaigns and even a CD trial for wow) too bad Blizzard is no longer the game company we knew and loved 😞 those glory days are forever gone.
can you even play the original anymore? i heard you can't.
Well I still have to check that out, I no longer have a cd/DVD drive to install those games (I have a laptop now but no CD drive and the pc I used to play warcraft 3 is no more) but at this point is not even bother to use the CD keys and download the game from the official battlenet website knowing that the experience will be just as inferior as the reforged one.
I have WarCraft 1-2 boxes, Diablo 1 box, SC:BW battlechest, all 3 collectors boxes for StarCraft 2, 3 copies of Diablo 2 + LoD, WoW TBC battlechest, and I'm actually thinking about getting rid of all of this shit. Nostalgia wont hold if they are currently producing nonstop trash.
@@liam3104 You got to disable the game's access to the internet and use cracked server connections to play with pirates to play the old proper game if you got official/legit copy.
Pirated version is literally better, play that if you want WC3.
I stopped supporting Blizzard in anyway after the Blitzchung thing.
yes thank you!
i deactavited my wow account.
im not saying everyone else should have but i have principles for fucks sake and blizzard is outed as more and more evil by the second.
now qere hearing about all the raping and suicides.
so.
if any of yall still give blizzard money.
die screaming.
Best decision ever, they didn’t improved at all after that.
16:13 Blizzard lost because they didn't create DoTA, and the original creator was on Valve's side. so it was his intellectual property as he created that game mode/style/idea, Blizzard just offered the platform for the creator to implement it.. it's no different than how Graphic Artist can use programs like Photoshop and Illustrator to create artwork.. that doesn't mean Adobe owns the rights to the art created using their platforms.
Blizzard just dropped the ball and didn't buy out the rights and also offer a job and hire on the creator of DoTA like Valve did... Blizzard wanted it all for free, so they suffered the loss for their arrogance.
exactly that, they just shot themselves in the foot instead of hiring icefrog.
Actually "Steve "Guinsoo" Feak" created DotA, which was hugely inspired by Aeon of Strife, a custom game in Starcraft. DotA wasn't the only custom game that was inspired by AoS, but it became the most popular. I'm guessing Guinsoo gave IceFrog the rights to the game (and name) when he started working on League of Legends
@@pierreo33 you don't own or cant copyright works "inspired by' other works.. otherwise you'll have a lot less music, art, etc that are created from inspiration and influence from other music, art, etc before it.
For example the Beatles influenced a whole host of bands and even blatant knock-off beatle-wannabe imitations... even the beatles themselves were heavily influenced by rock n' roll music before them, as this influence can be heard on their earlier albums, and of course various cover songs. so doesn't mean the beatles automatically own or have any claim to copyright of those works created by other musicians who took direct inspiration from their work.
or keeping it in context of gaming.. think about the whole host of games that were created in direct response and influenced by Wolfenstein (1992) and Doom (1993), ID software doesn't automatically own or have any claim to copyright of those works created by other developers who took direct inspiration from their work.
@@LycanWitch yeah but icefrog wasnt the original creator
@@pierreo33 Guinsoo worked less than a year or so on it tho, he created the recipe system tho, which is a big deal, but there was people before him and icefrog maintained the game for years afterwards.
Still my point remains, Blizzard had opportunity somewhere along all that time to offer contract and they didn't.
When I saw chat spam "CD Projekt Red is a good company", I thought they were being sarcastic. Then I realised this video was in mid 2020.
Demanding freedom for Hong Kong will violate policy’s and laws until they get it. What do you expect oppressed people to do? That blizzard event was the only platform he had to reach enough people where one might be able to make a difference.
But entire Chinese thing is also very confusing. Since both casters are from Taiwan, Taiwan is autonomous from mainland PRC so they don't need to put down their head for that, the only thing it represent is that they agree with his stand. Also it is known in the Hong Kong community that wearing those masks means they are of that faction, they don't need to know he will say things like that beforehand until the second he put off his mask.
What you expect the Guy is a full on NPC, normie, doing his Political Correctness stuff. He doesn't even realize that he's defending communism, together with blizzard and any other whore that want to end the west.
Is like defending the people that want to destroy you. The communists in China are pretty good in subversion it seems.
Asmon is nothing more than a con-artist doing PR for blizzard all the time, and every company really. Must be some beta shit going on.
1:25:20 "Will Blizzard ever redeem themselves?" Funny and sad to hear this as of these times after the CA lawsuit, the Jason Schreier article about Warcraft III Reforged, the state of the game, etc...
Even worse with diablo fucking immortal
Asmongold forgot alot a stuff....
So this is why he still plays wow.
Haha, ignorance is bliss :D
You can't live in the past for too long actually
I not that much of a fan of Asmong since i don't see twitch. I can see that he try to defend Blizzard in what he can (as long is not impossible to defend them) so maybe he is not impartial and that why he forgets these things. Well that is how it looks to an outsider like me
Edit: I do like his content, i just won't go to twitch, that is what i meant in the first sentence, also sorry for the bad english, i am from Mexico
I like how your friend malded at economic systems, but you were able to rein him in and provide a much more comprehensive perspective to the issue. Kinda rare thing to see nowadays.
Not gonna lie, I STILL get goose bumps and teary eyed when Tassadar sacs himself for everyone to kill the hive mind. En Taro Adun!
En Taro Tassadar
1:02:00
1: People furious about the Blitzchung ban
2: Asmon: "Blizzard had to take action, dO yOu WaNT eVreY StReAM to Be InVaDeD LikE tHaT? I don't understand why it's different"
3: Asmon proceeds to explain why it's different and why people are furious
4: ?!
1. Ofc
2. There was a signed contract about not expressing political views. Which he did, so how is the action not justified?
3. He explained that blizzard caves in to whatever political view suits them the best(or what ever china tells them to do), which is just pure bullshit and people should be mad about that.
4. Why are you so emotional about it?
@@Gorgovoid173 Yeah, you cant really "side" with any opinion other than what the general population thinks. Because then you are "one of them". Cant fathom how we have not gotten further as humans...
When did it become news that companies will side with whatever the majority of their current and potential consumers agree with??? I don't understand the outrage since blizz had every right to punish the guy.
Nostalrius was actually the best WoW experience of my life and I played from Beta to WotLK. Best community I ever played with online. If you missed it I kinda feel bad for you cause it was that good.
@Michael Garrett Yeah but they matured, have families now, mellowed out, it was good, and it's infact the young that keep me from playing classic, and BDO.
This really reminds of times when video games were a niche and people who made them genuinely cared about their players
Now it’s just business, like stupid TV shows or news
"They owe it to themselves."
Problem is, the "themselves" today is not the "themselves" back then.
"And now you don't remember the dungeon."
Squaresoft was the other one having great cinematics, considering final fantasy 7 came out -97 and SC -98
Blizzard telling that poor kid he didn’t want classic - really that was the mindset there wasn’t it.
“You *think* you want a workplace free from sexual harassment, but actually you don’t “
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"Blizzard vs. Valve"
"Ohhh, League of Legends!"
League of legends came from Dota
He is right to guess that
actually They could have hired Icefrog themselves after the launch of LoL and didn't. they lost the licence right there.
@@zsoltsiro1310 No, LoL came after Dota 2. It still copy Dota 1 concept.
@@noobeginner9838 League of Legends was released in 2009 while Dota 2 was released in 2013, so how did league come after Dota 2?
@@visha0203 Dota 1 started as a Mod for Warcraft 3 in 2003. Then some of the maker split up. 2 of them goes under Riot Games making LoL in 2009 to become the "spiritual successor " of Dota 1. The other one stayed untill Valve come to hire the other one in 2013 to create Dota 2 as a sequel/standalone game. You can tell it's "official" because Dota 2 keep their hero, heroes name, item and map, while LoL is just a "easy version of Dota 2".
That's why LoL and Dota 2 player doesn't really get along.
"...and now you don't remember the dungeon"
*B* *R* *U* *T* *A* *L* - Yet so poignant.
i just wanted to say something about nostalrius. In my country , germany , it would actually not even be a case for copyright infringement . Blizz's claim of loosing money would not be taken into account since they do not offer these addons anymore. Would Blizz at any point have provided these addons as playable , then yes. But the arguement , that they were loosing customers and therefor money , when these servers were not producing any income since they existed through donations, was invalid. Sadly though they do hold the rights on the intellectual goods and so they could still shut down . But that in the end made them look like , sorry , assholes. Because the people were not coming back by shutting down those servers . And so in the end blizz just went after Nostalrius for nothing.
You know the video is before Cyberpunk when the chat says CD Project is a good videogame company
What's wild is how Brack uses Pride support and supporting protests against police/racial violence and whatnot as a shield against criticism. Like, I'm sure he, like most people in Blizzard, probably believes strongly in these causes in his personal life. It's a realistic expectation given how many of them live in California, which is known for having some of the most liberal politics in the country around its cities. And that's all to be said there because it's ultimately just a side-note, context for the following (so anyone trying to start some dumb-ass, histrionic argument in the comment thread for or against it can save their time; I don't know or care where you fall on the spectrum on these issues, some rando malding in my comments isn't going to change my mind, and I'm not going to interface with those comments because life is finite):
The company uses these causes as a shield. Every time Blizzard is in the middle of a firestorm, Brack walks out with a BLM or Pride pin on his shirt while blandly apologizing, saying he 'assumes accountability' but offers nothing in regards to how he will accept accountability, what steps will be taken to address the issue that incited the criticism, or what will be done to prevent this issue from arising again in the future. He stops at part 1 of the three-part apology every single time, and he weaponizes the internet's tendency toward tribalism to get away with it. He's relying on those BLM and Pride pins to give critics pause, because it's easy to twist things around to present people criticizing someone in that apparel as criticizing the cause the apparel promotes. And that's why I have no respect for Brack as a person. He's a weak-kneed, cowardly yes man who exists to bow his head and thank his masters for the opportunity to execute their will, and he'll use minority causes to shield himself from critics so he never has to actually do anything about what he's getting criticized for.
Once got grounded for playing mortal combat, nice job on the 2k pc at your pops place LMAO
I'm 37, I remember taking my little guides and booklets to the local arcade, waiting my turn from all the "bigger boys" and just huddling the cabinet watching them perform all the moves and fatalities and talk about all the little bullshit cheats and secrets they'd "heard from a mate" or lied about seeing in magazines.
My parents never cared, it was just a game, and I doubt I'd have the strength to uppercut somebodies head off for real.
My uncle however? Man, we played the game in front of our cousin on MegaDrive (Genesis), performed a fatality, and when I turned around to gauge his reaction to the "awesome" blood on the TV screen... kid was somewhere between deathly-pale and green.
I work for a Japanese company here in the US and they absolutely value the employees and business above profit. Profit important only to keep the business afloat whereas US companies the profit goes straight up the pyramid to the execs and everyone else is left with the scraps. Worked for both, but the Japanese style just feels much better to be apart of.
but japanese work overtime alot in Japan. They even have a word for death by overwork: karoushi
@@argumentumadhominem3977 it depends on the job. But you should know that almost every position in japan outside of service industry makes salary and the average hours worked per week is between 40 and 50 and very rarely goes over this. Having talked to several of the Japanese employees we have at my company this is pretty standard. On a side note their cost of living is very high in the bigger cities but they have much better health insurance rates and other benefits often leading to better quality of life. Here I america if you get paid time off at your job you are lucky and forget about paid paternity leave in most cases for parents. Its just two very different cultures and mentalities.
Japanese business can teach a lot to American businesses. It's not ALL about a profit margin, it's also about honor and putting out an amazing product that consumers will love. A prime example of this is Final Fantasy 14.