O Scale Trains by Ron - Outdoor Layout - E3 - Track Plan & Loop 1 build
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- Episode 3 - Track Plan
Episode 3 in my series on building an O Scale outdoor layout.
This episode I show the installation of the 110 electrical to the waterfall. Also the beginning stages of the layout track plan. Describing the ladder line and stanchion construction, also talk about layout electrical system.
Hi Ron, great idea for elevated track, going to look into using this idea for my new HO layout, sky train , great video, hi from 🇨🇦 Canada 🇨🇦
Thanks, glad to inspire you with a good idea. Yes easy to build and versatile. 👍😊🚂
This is very practical, over the years I have seen pedestal track used, this by far is the best application. Very stable in ground movement from expansion and contraction. Freezing and thawing, Desert dry then heavy rain. Good Job.
Edwyn - Thanks! Yes ladderline has worked very well, i am using the existing ladderline and re shaping to the design and no problems changing the curvature of the material after 3 years in place. The stanchion system is also very sturdy, handles the the weather of hot and cold well also. I screw the track down enough to keep in place, the track can expand or contract with the weather. Thanks for tuning in. SKol! Ron
Great job! Your videos are answering a lot of questions for me.
Great! Glad you liked the videos. If you have questions just ask.. Ron//
I am so out of sequence in looking at your build now that I find there is so much info. Hard to believe you really did your layout in a shirt few years. You did end up with a park like setting to be able to walk around or just sit and watch. My hat is off to you sir!
I started in September 2016 with this layout, this is my second outdoor three rail o scale layout. I have 18 episodes to this build, and still working on more. A layout is never really finished. Thanks for find my channel. Skol! Ron//
Great job loving the layout and area around it, keep up the great job and I'll see Ya in three weeks...
Thanks Gary. Yup we'll see your layout in 3 weeks. Skol!
love watching your videos. can't wait for no.4. Wish I had a garden to do this in lol
Thanks PWP! glad you're watching..
Ron Karlsson do you plan on adding any lighting round your layout? I live in a flat so only have room for a N Gauge layout that only comes out at Xmas as it goes round our Xmas tree. I have it plugged into a timer, so it goes round for 5min every hour
PWP - yes I do plan for lighting - in the waterfall, and on the layout also. I plan to have track signals and accent lighting on the layout and in the building and industries.
Ron Karlsson that sounds amazing and I can't wait to see
Great job on both additions. You do good work. you should sell kits. Jim
James, what kind of kit are you interested in. I would surely entertain the idea. Ron
@@baldypalmsrailroad kits to the stantions
@@KK47.. I could entertain this idea. The stanchion are 1 1/2 and 1” pvc and the ladder line cross pieces are pvc door trim.
@@baldypalmsrailroad im going to get started today thank you RON
Hi Ron / Cool to see your new layout. I wish, I had Palm Trees in my back yard. It is getting cold here in Michigan and the leaves are changing, Wow - you are getting a lot done. Cool watering can for the cement work. Plug & play objectives with the tool box, sounds good.
• Cheers from The Detroit & Mackinac Railway 🚂
Gary, thanks for the comments. Yeah the layout is coming along. weather getting cooler here too. Since the layout is outside, I don't leave the electronics outside. So I'll be building a portable control station where I would simply plug into the layout, clean the track and off I go running trains. Stay warm up there Gary.. Skol! Ron
Just subscribed and look forward to updates, your very good with your hands and love the water fall.
Thanks for sharing,
Jose Silva
G Scale
Jose Silva G Scale
I subcribed to your channel also. You have a great layout Jose.
Thanks for subscribing to the channel.
That's clever .
Thanks
Hi Ron, your channel was a TH-cam suggestion and its proved to have been a good one too, it's great to be able to work outdoors wearing only T-shirt, Shorts & Flip-Flops over here in England it's Hi Summer & wear are still wearing Winter Cloths, your choice of track bed is brilliant & I shall be copying it, that you can be sure of, as I worked in the Private Swimming Pool Industry most of my life, so I know how resilient PVC Pipe & ABS Pipe cane be, I've liked & subscribed to your channel too, I believe I'm No: 608 Regards John
John, thank you for finding and subbing to my channel. My goal is to share and inspire others like yourself to build an outdoor layout. Mt design is unique and very easy to build. Most my my ladder line pvc has been out in the elements for over 5 years, and is still in very good shape. The ladder line has handled both very hot summers and fairly cold winters, (5C is cold for us, hihi).
Should you have any questions during your build, feel free to ask. Thanks for you comment. Skol! Ron//
Very interesting. Have a nice day now.
Kurt thanks for tuning in and comment.
Great work. I've been following your work for some time. That PVC material seems to have fared much better than HDPE. I'm definitely going that route if I build outdoors.
Thanks Matt, the pvc design, in my opinion is very durable and can handle the extreme weather temperature changes throughout the year. Most of my ladder line has been in the elements for 5 years. Still in great condition. Thanks for following the progress of the layout. Skol, Ron//
hi Ron ... coming along nicely.. looks like a lot of work.. thanks for sharing.. vinny
Thanks Vinny! I see you're working on your layout too. Hope the slow down is not long lived.
Skol! Ron
Hey Ron. I followed yours steps to the tee. I built the rail bed and I’m ready to lay the expansion pvc. Question. How long should I wait for cement and sand to dry? Also. How can I show you my progress with pics?
KK
The dry pack cement should be set up in only a few hours. Send pics to:
info@oscaletrainsbyron..com
Thanks for sharing your pictures..
@@baldypalmsrailroad thank you for your help. I just sent to you
@@KK47.. , I sent the email address with a type o. Here is the correct email address. Look forward to you photos. Where are you located if I may ask. I’m in Southern California.
info@oscaletrainsbyron.com
Ron//
Ron, I'm following in your footsteps using Lionel 0 outside, Atlas track/turnouts, ladder system and Legacy. Would love to bounce some of ideas off of you.
Jim Bettes
Awesome Jim, be glad to share ideas with you, email me at ronaldkarlsson64@gmail.com, I'll send you my number so we can talk if you want. Thank for tuning in.. Ron//
How do you get the 1 inch to stay inside the 1 1/4 PVC? When you adjust the height how do you get it to stay in place, I am missing that part. Awesome video series by the way. Thank you for sharing.
John, I use stainless steel hose clamps to adjust the height. Works great. Thanks for asking, glad you like the layout. Ron//
Ron Karlsson I love it. A railroad in my back yard is a dream of mine! You are giving me great ideas. Thank you again and thanks for the reply.
Cool!
What type of tracks did you use for this build. I know that its o scale, but what company makes those specific tracks?
I used Atlas silver nickel track. This track comes with UV resistance sleepers/ties. After 6 years the track has held up. Ron//
My son and I are attempting this. What did you use to cut the 1/2 x 4 inch bases? They all look so perfectly sized. How did you do that?
John are you referring to the the slats of the ladder line those pieces? To cut those are used a chopsaw or a circular saw with a stop affixed to the tool rest measured at 4 inches. One of my other videos I think episode nine or around there shows how I make the ladder line and what pieces you’ll need as far as material goes. Good luck on your build, I am glad I inspired you to build your own outside layout.👍😊🚂
Check out ep7 on the ladder line.
Hello Ron! I am really enjoying your outdoor layout series. Unfortunately I wasn’t able to find Lowes PVC Trim section that was used for outside of the ladder. By any chance do you have any links to the trim? Thank you!
Hello: the ladder line rails are Lowes Item # 209629. Model #L182018L8, 1/4-in x 1-1/2-in x 8-ft PVC Lattice Divider. The cross pieces are item #113010, Model #0250 Royal Building Products, 0.625-in x 1.5-in x 12-ft S$S PVC Trim Board. Both products are found in the fine lumber section, where door trim and baseboard trim are located. I looked online and found both products at my local Lowes. If I could post a photo, I would show you the item from Lowes.com. Thanks, hope this helps.
My website has some good info as well. www.oscaletrainsbyron.com/
@@baldypalmsrailroad Thank you so much for your detailed reply! I was able to find the dividers with the model number. It seems like they have changed the lowes item number from #209629 to #209626. At least in my end. Also by any chance, did you happen to sell ABA set of Santa Fe F3s back in 2020? If so, I was the guy that purchased it. They are still running great.
@@LIKEAWHATT You’re welcome. You’re correct the #209626, the 629 was a type o. Yes I do remember selling the F3 ABA set. I’m glad are performing well for you. Are you planning an outdoor layout?
@@baldypalmsrailroad Yes indeed. I have recently moved to a place with a decent garden area and figured a garden railroad would be perfect. Hopefully I can make progress on it soon
Ron, I am planning on creating my layout outdoors like yours.
I was going to use MTH Realtrax but someone told me that I should use Atlas Flex track because it was more tolerant to weather. I think that you used Atlas track and so I will ask you, what is your opinion? Would you use Atlas again?
I was advised to cut my flex track to the various lengths rather than buying a lot of small pre-made pieces.
Do you cut your own track and connect them together?
Do you have a preferred method for cutting track?
What tools do you use for cutting and connecting track?
Since your layout is done, I guess its too late to ask for a video on how to cut and connect custom lengths of track.
Brent, I have used the Altas O silver nickle track for more than 5 years now, and have not had any adverse effects on the track. The track ties are UV resistant and have held up in my opinion - great. Take it I live in So Cal, where the summers can be over 100F and down to the 30's F at times. I found the flex track does not flex as much as I thought it would. So I opted to go with sectional track, on the long straights I do use the 30" long section when practical. I have not experimented with the MTH track, but from reading form posts, I read more positives for the Altas O track for outdoor use. I have not compared the two brands. My experience I'd say Atlas O silver nickle is the better choice. So using the sectional track I did come across times where I would need to cut in a custom piece of track. The tool I use the cut off wheel and a Dremel tool. A Dremel is the model railroader all around must have tool. I also use the Dremel with a wire brush to clean the track area before installing the rail joiners. One thing about using sectional track is when you're building the ladder line section you can dry fit a few sections at a time in building the bends of the ladder line. Let me see if I can find the video of me doing this.
I also do not solder my joints, I found that adding track feeders every five or six feet is a good practice in providing good connectivity. The track needs to be able to expand and contract due to temperature changes, having a solid soldered track may cause the track to pop or pull off the ties, causing miss alignments and train derailments.
Hope this helps in your decision in to which track to get. I'd like to see how your progress develop as you build your layout, and as always, I'd be glad to answer any question you have.. Ron//
Question, how come you didn't bury your PVC conduit in the beginning to 18" (to top of conduit) in the ground? Your depth is good for 30 volts or less?
Hello MK thanks for your question. Reason is the ground in the layout area is very hard clay rocky soil, with a lot of surface roots from the area palm trees. Also to reduce the taunting task of trenching so much. With the conduit on the stanchions, the foot print is much smaller, easy to reroute track if needed.
Thanks for watching. Ron//
@@baldypalmsrailroad I completely understand. I'm an electrician and I had to dig trenches through material like that and its no fun. If you do plan to sell your house, please remove that conduit. I'm at a new home owners house and the last home owner did all of his electric wrong and now the old home owner is in trouble with the town for no permits and potential fire hazard. The new home owners are suing him for repairs
MK wow, thanks for the tip, will definitely do that. 👍
you're a genius
Thanks for watching Jesse..
I have seen pvc "1/2 inch" basically "melt" and "bend" in Oklahoma heat. Do you have any issues with this in the middle of summer?
Jesse Peterson
The 1/4 by 1 1/2 door trim, the outer part of the ladder line road bed is horizontal and it's most rigid position. I live in California and have had many 90 to 100 plus days with no sagging. The stanchions are placed every two feet or so. The ladder line is very sturdy to handle the weight of class 1 type locomotives withh no problems.
Awesome! That was my main concern.
Great update!!!!! So is the ladder line your creation or did you hear or read about it?
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So the ladder line and stanchion design is my creation, I have not seen anything else like this out there. I see people use planks and 4x4 posts, and thought of my design as cheaper and most versatile. Once the pvc material is painted the uv protection will last a long time. Thanks,for watching. Another episode coming soon. Skol. Ron
Can this be used indoors for a double mainline in HO?
Vidfreak, You sure can, you can make the cross bar piece any length you need. The pvc tee need to be extended with a small piece of 1" pvc pipe to make a good fit between the ladder line runs. Thanks for watching and your comment. Skol! Ron//
Ron Karlsson thanks
I see that you are using PVC pipe to raise the horizontal supports that you attach your rail too.
I know you said that you bought the PVC supplies at Lowes. What are you using to create the horizontal supports that your track attaches to? Is this some form of Trex plastic lumber?
Brent the material I use for the horizontal ladder line roadbed is PVC door trim products I got at Lowes. On my website I have the Lowes part numbers for you to reference to. www.oscaletrainsbyron.com/roadbed
The cross bar from the vertical PVC pipe and the ladder line is a 1" pvc Tee that I trimmed on side off the measure 3" across. The Tee will slip into a open section of the ladder line, I then drill a 1/4" hole and insert a 4" long 1/4" carriage bolt the hold it all together. Check out my website, I go in to a little more detail on construction and show some picture of the process.
Here's my phone number if you want to talk directly. I'd be happy to assist. 909-560-6839. Skol! Ron//
Way Cool. Thank you for providing so much detail. Im here in Sacramento.
Im going to use the PVC pipes to support the ladder rack. Im still not sure if I am going to use the sand and cement mixture you were using or I might just cut the end of the PVC at 45 degrees to create a sharp edge and pound it into the ground with a rubber mallet.
We have hard pan up here once you get more than 6" below the surface.
I just flew back from Sac yesterday...I was up in Redding over the weekend. I'd get a 2" tulip bulb auger bit to drill your holes. You can use regular sand too, just pack in the hole and pour some water in the hole, Its should set up nicely and be sturdy enough. I used a 1 to 4 ratio of cement to make like a slurry mix. Pounding in the stanchion post may go off target if they bounce of a rock of something..
What radius track did you use?
Using O54 radius curves Atlas silver nickel track.
Any subscribers in North California interested in building materials like video. Have over 50 ft to recycle if anyone is interested.
Good way to get the word out. 👍
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