1. Clean/2.Policy/3.Halo/4.In your room /5.Walking/6.Rush/7.Stripped/8.Question of time /9.Enjoy/10.The things you said /11.Shake the/12.Never let me/13.You never loved me/14.Barrel of/15.Behind the/16.Home/17.Personal/18. Black celebration /19.Suffer well/20.Is there something to do. Beat this VG🎉
Hiya from across the pond Vaughn ... I am SO behind on all too much of your FAB content. Most importantly .... I am soooo sad for your very heart of hearts with the great loss of Brian. I am so sad for this great loss and so appreciative for ALL the times you both shared with us together and projects etc. I hope you get time .... time to grieve and heal as you deserve such.
@@TheBebMeister I agree but there is more chance of being kicked by a paralysed snake than Martin ever agreeing to perform that song again !! VG :-) :-)
DM accompanied me thru' a terrible time last year with the loss of my Dad. Id never seen them before, so almost two weeks ago in Dublin was an Apex of all the emotions playing and moving within. The show was phenomonal. I felt like I was on a dark, distant planet when "Cosmos" weaved its dark magic in the air, and the gig held me there all the whole way. I was levitating for the whole gig, I was utterly blown away and could barely even applaud when, the back to back brilliance of Black Celebration and Stripped were unveiled. New material was excellent, it worked wonderful with everything. I was in another world. I Loved it all.
@@VaughnGeorge 👍Thank you, Sir. Sorry too mate, for your recent loss. 'Cosmos" fitted perfectly alongside "Insight" and "In Your Room" when walking and thinking to myself in the evenings last year. I was Starstruck when Dave&Martin strolled onstage, and then 'Cosmos" put me in a Trance that, didnt let up for the whole show. 👍 Im a massive Metal/Rock fan and the DM Experience was one of the most intense gigs Ive been to in years. Other Worldly.
@@kevinwilson598 They really looked like they were having a great time up there. Every song hit the mark with a roaring reaction, and I thought the new songs worked wonderfully in the darkened setting of indoors, especially "Cosmos" and "Before we Drown". And when Dave remarked that we were "Better than England", the place lost it! 😀
I saw them 2 days after the opening in London in Birmingham and the Birmingham concert was absolutely awesome. Dave’s vocals and Martin’s especially were fantastic. The atmosphere celebratory. I’ve seen DM live since Violator days and the MM concert was one of the best I’ve seen!
Fletch. Was a solid. He was the rock for both Dave & Martin. Fletch brought a sense of cohesiveness to the band and the performances. It didn't matter if he didn't do much musically, but his presence brought so much character, charm and depth to the band, that can never be replaced or forgotten. RIP Fletch. We miss you. ❣
I went to see them in Manchester as well as Twickenham. Manchester was a fantastic gig, Dave even said to the crowd "you are so much better than London". I love My Cosmos Is Mine, great track, I don't find it depressing at all, it's full of atmosphere. I've been fortunate enough to see DM live on every tour since 1982. I do have to say I miss the full electronic experience, I would sooner have a drum machine over a live kit and I'm actually a drummer... But that's my opinion. If you look at the Vinegar Street sessions, I think that format would work great live and be quite refreshing for both band and audience.
I love My Cosmos Is Mine. I know what's this song is about and it's crazy that I'm living through this time right now. It is happening. DM do what they should and if people don't care and come to the show for dancing from beginning to the end - they just close their eyes, cuz they're fine and everything is alright in their world. Other case Just Can't Get Enough! What a genius - not annoying at all - song it is! Yep... soundtrack of 2022+ So, Memento Mori, people. Nothing matter more then this, unfortunetely. This tour is little bit more then just music, want you or not. I'm proud of them.
Yep, I too love "Cosmos". It was an immence help to me last year listening to it in a trance , as the night fell. Its got such a mood, alien world vibe to it. I love Dark Mode like that anyway, and how, their current show can rumble to a brooding beginning with Cosmos, only to have you jump around to Just cant get Enough at the end. 👍
Totally agreed with VG on this one. MCIM makes sense as an album opening track, but definitely not as a live show opener. Just does not get that pop from the crowd that this band should give their audience.
I want DM to be an electronic band not a rock band and will always remember them as such ❤❤❤❤🌹 Vaughn, why don't you submit an application for a DM production manager for real, you never know I'm not kidding! RIP Fletch Thank you so much for making this video! I agree with everything you said especially regarding drumming 🙅♀🤷♀
I would like to have seen if DM would have honored Brian in their live shows. He was important for their visual appearance in the 80s. Maybe they could have used his pictures from Construction Time phase for the projections for Everything Counts.
I agree with your comment about Fletch. For so much that was said about his lack of involvement, his presence certainly is missed, in PR things (interviews, fan interactions, etc) and even on the live shows. He might had been just a bloke clapping on the side of the stage in certain songs but even that is missed.
DM last great tour was 1993/4 with SOFAD. They are just a parody of their old lineup now. Most of their arrangements are just drowned out by Eigner bashing the drums like a toddler having a tantrum. The 2 major problems they have are that they are trying to play live drums over tracks that were originally written with drum machines, and secondly they massively miss Alans live arrangements.
God how many fortunes I would give to see on stage those 3 Emaxes, no Kristian, no Gordino. Ok maybe 3 Kronoses, no argue on that. And imagine Alan Wilder again on stage. Just Martin ,Alan and Dave and 3 samplers on stage. And imagin them play the songs with the original electronic drum sounds and original stucture. And only "Walking in my shoes" and "In your room" would be played with live drums by Alan. Just like it was back in the day .Oh, wishfull thinking..
When Condemnation first came out Dave was singing from a place of extreme darkness and pain. So the song worked. He has since overcome all his demons, so that is why the song doesn't have the same kick & hit that it used too.
@DorisDay-lw4xs maybe it's not about you and it's about the person who was in a dark place and managed to wiggle out of it just by the hair on his chin.
Been to several shows of this tour and I have to agree with almost everything you mentioned in this video. However, for now I've attended just one gig of 4th leg in Dublin, which was way exceptional because of the venue itself. Dublin's 3Arena feels very intimate and the sound was absolutely amazing compared to all previous ones, even that messy line in Behind The Wheel sounded actually pretty okay 😀 ..and the band seemed to be in perfect mood and condition. Looking forward to both Prague shows now. Cheers!
Dublin was an absolute stunner. The 3Arena isnt as carniverous as perhaps areas are elsewhere, so its a perfect setting. They sounded hugh, and were consistantly smiling snd enjoying the show all the way.
Vaughn, I have seen this show 3 times, outdoor in Dublin, In New York and most recently in Dublin. The Dublin 3 Arena gig was epic, there was an alchemy between band and audience and it was incredible. It was clear the band were enjoying it. DM have a connection with Dublin, so you need to come here the next time!
I was at the Dublin show. My first time seeing them. Fecking Incredible. They absolutely looked as though they were having a great time up there, and Dave just could'nt stop moving and emoting the music along. I was happy out with the set. Somebody, Strangelove, Behind the Wheel. And the new material had more depth, widescreen atmosphere live. Before we Drown was Massive. I was pretty much in a starstruck daze from the onset, and "Cosmos" had this dark brooding buzz that felt like moody opening credits to a movie. Lulling you in then, Bang! Wagging Tounge, the lights come on and we have lift off! Stunning Night. The after show party in Temple Bar's "Button Factory" was class aswell. 👍👍
I went to both nights at the O2 Arena. I thought DM were superb, especially on night 2. I screamed when they played Behind The Wheel! I thought Christian’s drumming was superb but each to their own. I had side seats for night 2 so my brother and I were super close to the stage. The sound from there was much clearer. I could hear the bass more. I had the best DM gig ever and I went to Twickenham which was really good but night 2 at the O2 was something else. Walking In My Shoes, It’s No Good, I Feel You, Behind The Wheel, Enjoy The Silence, NLMDA and Personal Jesus were my faves over both nights. It’s No Good and I Feel You are my tour faves. I was up in the gods for night one and I was up so high it felt like I was flying. My memory of being up that high headbanging to I Feel You and standing up for ETS and Personal Jesus will stay with me forever. I too would drop John The Revelator. I would love A Question of Time. I have given up all hope of Freelove being played but wouldn’t Never Let Me Go sound just brilliant live? I have no idea why they haven’t played it.
Thank you VG for all you do. I am terribly sorry to hear about Brian's passing and can only imagine what you're going through. On DM's live performances, I now prefer the small tribute bands honouring them and their legacy. I recently caught Strangelove and couldn't be happier.
I can say that snare is not just 3% cause also gives the track melodic information not just drum hitting, those are for sure the missing elements from DM shows after Wilder
Great honest review Vaughn! I saw them here in my hometown, Detroit, back in November. When Martin came out he did a question of lust, and dressed in black. I just about lost my mind (in a good way of course). I thought they sounded fantastic! My only complaint is that they could (like you said) lose John the revelator, and a pain that im used to. Nobody cares about those songs. I want to see a few some great reward tracks in there instead!
I went to both evenings at the 02. On the second evening they played Before We Drown - which is my favourite track on MM, and they also dropped World in my eyes (!) for Behind the wheel. Both evenings were great. But I totally agree with the My Cosmos is mine super long intro approach to the start of the show. It's almost like it's there to allow Dave to warm up his voice. The only thing I don't like is, having seen them live since the CTA Tour, is that I can predict every 'Ad lib' that Dave does. But, whatever, they were great nights, and maybe their last tour.
Oh no. I'm so sorry to hear about Brian. I had a brief email exchange with him about a year ago when I was buying one of his prints. It was so great that he was accessible like that and that he worked with his channel in quite a unique way. I'm glad that he did and that people like me knew more about him and his work because of it. I wish you and his family all the best x
Re: the drum kit: I can't imagine how In Your Room sounded with the snare drum compressed?! The snare and bass drop are my favourite part of that version! So crisp; clean and solid sounding. (Much prefer it to the album version because of that rhythm section alone.)
Hello Brother, I was at the same show and I thought it was very well done. My previous DM live gig was Touring The Universe was I felt wasn’t a great album or tour. Whilst I agree with a lot of your criticisms I disagree with others but that’s fine, it’s subjective. I’m just grateful they are still recording and touring new material, I also feel DM is in a no win situation. If they kept churning out Violator 1,2, & 3 they’d get slaughtered for it and if they try to be more experimental people have a go. On a positive, I want to thank you for highlighting Christian’s over-drumming which was horrible on Touring The Universe (see middle section of ETS) 🫣. This tour, they reeled him in. Lastly Mrs Eunson, how can you not be a Depeche Mode fan? 😳 🖤
I definitely agree they should change their set list and do it radically even, I've stopped going to DM shows because it's so boring hearing all the same songs more or less every time. Who really needs to hear Personal Jesus, Enjoy the silence, Just can't get enough etc you know all the usual suspects. I would love hearing a song like Fly on the windscreen, Blasphemous rumours or Sacred, and from latter albums songs like Always or Ghost and so on. :/
As always Vaughn your honesty in your review is refreshing. Couldn't agree more with My Cosmos Is Mine. Dreadful opener. It is what it is now I guess. Off to see The Devout next week in Edinburgh where they play for 3 hours and don't play anything after 1997. More my cup of tea these days. DM 84-98 though will never be beaten both in the studio and live.
Saw the Manchester gig and felt they were on top of their game.. Given I was pretty disappointed in all their albums from exciter onwards (up until memento mori which I love) I was VERY happy with the setlist (ESPECIALLY getting Somebody and Behind the Wheel.. I appreciate why some people would prefer the drum track to live drums but I actually prefer the live kit but that's just my opinion. I do wonder if the tinkering of the setlist to add fan service might be leading up to a glasto announcement..............
I love Depeche Mode but I must say that if you compare now Depeche Mode and Pet Shop Boys PSB have done much more brilliant records during 1995-2024 and singles every year and they have gorgeous concerts even now... When Alan left Depeche Mode it was the beginning of the end...
It was great singing along to DM with you! Fun night! I wish you were in charge of the set list! Love your change suggestions! I wish the O2 only held 12,000, supposedly the capacity is 20,000. I know that the floor was packed more than any other arena I've ever been to!
I have to say i was thrilled to see Black Celebration live again yes different from when i saw it on the. Violator tour but the atmosphere was amazing amd its one of my sons favourites so he was thrilled ❤😊
@@suzannealdridge1404 no I couldn't do better..but the tracks made with drum machines would be better kept as such.There are certain live songs that sound great with a drummer. I think your comment is suggesting I'm implying Christian should no longer be used..not at all! I believe both should be used...real people would understand that.
Saw them play Photographic instead of Just cant get enough at Wireless '06. Was my 1st and only DM gig. Girlfriend was very upset that they dropped Just cant get enough! ("You said they always play it..." :)
I was at the Birmingham gig with my son, it was amazing, I agree some songs they could drop, would love to have heard a question of time and Master and servant, the stage and lights were fantastic, we went to Twickenham some songs I thought were better at Twickenham and vice versa, I thought Stripped was amazing at Twickenham not so good in brum, Ghosts again I thought sounded so much better in Birmingham, I saw them on the Violator tour back in the day as well, all in all fantastic, great memories and just wonderful to have my son with me, respect your honesty VG ❤
I saw them at the O2 on the 27th and thought they were amazing, took me days to come down from the high. We all see things differently but I loved it. I'm just glad that they are still around and making music after 40 years. Their age is surely reflected in their performance and new music. They are no longer young men.
I love this concert review.. I have seen DM a couple of times. Find them all a bit similar nowadays. I looked at some vids from this year and i can understand your comments. But still long live DM and MM is a great album 🙂
I was just yesterday in the Barcelona show. I liked a lot, with some changes in the set list (they dropped John the Revelator). But when I entered the after show party and Christmas Island was on (just as you entered a sinister hell-cave) you realize how different could be the intro and the show...
I would have loved to be at the Depeche Mode concert last weekend in Copenhagen. BUT!!!! I would much rather have been to a Devotional Tour concert! Why? For a few obvious reasons as you also pointed out. The band still had Fletch alive and Alan Wilder was in the band. There were no annoying Rock drummer ruining many of the epic songs (lets face it normal drums is not what we associate DM's songs with)! They did not remix many of the songs with awful sounds from synth catalouges into pale imitations of the originals. They did clever arrangements that stood out (probably thanks to Alan Wilder) and Dave's voice was just much much better (duh age does play a role and thats ok). You are spot on!
Hi Vaughn, great to see you on here, i thought you're looking well, and thank you for your time, opinions and thoughts, I had several laugh out loud moments, and enjoyed hearing how you feel. I hope you cleaned up the microphone you spat over😅. On another subject I am sorry about the sad loss of Brian . I look forward to hearing future podcasts. Congrats on performing with Mesh. Sadly I couldn't get to see you all due to ill health but wonder if they'll be a new album out this year? Best wishes and take good care of you and your family xxx
Caught them at Amsterdam Twickenham & Birmingham, wish they would've popped Rush in & I would love to see them open with higher love again, an absolute stunner of a track
Momento is an absolute stellar album! Saw them at the 3 arena dublin recently I was upfront to left of stage only complaint was the sound wasn't great.
Appreciate your review, i saw them last year in Oslo and I loved every minute of the show. But then again I am a big fan 😅❤ and it is my PERSONAL opinion.
I seen DM twice in the last year.. they played Ireland Summer 2023 and Feb 2024.. the indoor show was enjoyable.. I agree with your analysis… I think the small details that Wilder did, is why DM have a legacy .. if they were to live off the post Wilder period .. their touring would not be as extensive..
Very honest review. What can I say, I would have said the same thing. And by the way, Black Celebration was transposed semi-tone lower as well as Stripped from original on the record D-minor.
Great analysis. I saw them twice during the North American 3rd leg and I found myself getting bored towards the end of the show. I agree with much of what you say and observed. The only thing is the Donkeys on the beach was the back video for “It’s No Good.” It was the jewel studded skulls for “Enjoy the Silence.”
I have seen DM three times during this tour i.e. Twickenham, Warsaw, and Łódź (Poland). Warsaw concert was by far the best, then London and Łódź, which was quite dissapointing. I have a feeling that they are bored by now and I have to admit by their own fault. They do not change much in their performance and play very easy arrangements musically. As I was born in 1980 I would so much prefer if they went back to their previous style. GET ALAN BACK ;) Having said that, I would love to see them for the 4th time :)
As a staunch devotee of DM, and also a rock music aficionado, I actually like Christian's drumming on the live sets. DM crosses genres in their live performances and becomes a rock outfit - and I like that. So it's a matter of taste really. Also, just the visual aesthetics of their live performances is very rock band. Martin is usually on guitars, the drums are visually and sonically very present and prominent, Dave is very charismatic and full of energy. Total rock aesthetics. This is what draws the crowds and makes each live experience a night to remember. This is what separates DM from any other electronic music artist. You can't deny that.
@@gustavo2100that's your opinion - and apparently @VaughnGeorge shares your sentiment. However, there must be a reason Christian's been with DM for over a quarter of a century! Any drummer anywhere would kill to be part of DM's live setup - but they stuck with Christian, and for good reason. He's the perfect balance between a drum machine and a live rock drummer - with enough oomph to make his own mark and not be overshadowed by Dave and Martin. There's a reason why he's so prominent on stage, and not in the dark shadows. He brings the energy that a live set needs - while being rock-steady.
Fly on the windscreen would have been a great song to open the concerts too. Do you think that, or why they don't sing some of the songs that we all have associated DM when Alan Wilder was part of the band, and love so much have anything to do with paying Royalties' to Alan Wilder? I read in an interview where AW had said that he gets 25% of the Royalties. I wonder if song selection have anything to do with that? Not sure how Royalties and music works.
Your impression of Dave singing Condemnation nowadays is my new favourite. You nailed it. Lounge Dave, with a touch of Louis Armstrong. So true. Even if Alan rejoined, I think he would be at odds with lounge/rock n' roll/blues Dave. I think they've gone too far in their current direction.
I went to the O2 show. It was fantastic. I dont like Cosmos but loved all the other songs. Martin and Dave were on top form and their voices beautiful. 💌
Thoroughly enjoyed Birmingham, 6th time seeing them and they still got it. I like the changing up in most cases, how boring would it be if every song sounded like the albums. Enjoy your honest opinion, all i would say is they keep selling out world arena tours, so they must be doing something right :)
I think the live drumming is bloody brilliant. Im a huge rock/metal fan, so I really think the percussion lifts the tracks hugher. Take "Precious'. The song had more dynamic, depth and departures because of the added peaks and valleys because of the propelling percussion. I understand that fans want to have a more electronic beat going like onthe album, but I love the lively, rock an roll feel that a full band gives. 👍
Clearly, you do not know the real DM live sound: different from the album, but electronic and perfect. They were famous by their live remixes, so... WTF are you talking about?!
I really love the live drumming. It gives the songs energy. I wouldn’t like to hear a drum machine, it wouldn’t be a ‘live’ performance. Just my take anyway
I love it.👍 I understand it might not be peoples ideal opening to a show if especially they want a massive uptempo track to lift it all off. I get that. But, I love Cosmos's dark trance it spells on you. Its like something from a movie, its got an eerie , doom laden vibe to it. Not everyones cuppa tea I know, but I think its awesome!
Fletch had a more grass roots connection to people. Dave and Martin have been in their billionaire's bubble in Santa Barbara a bit too long, methinks...
I saw them for the fourth leg in Barcelona this time and I have to admit that I dropped a tiny bit of mushrooms before the show, so I was full-on by the time of the 2nd of 3rd song which had the donkey visuals in the background which left me in total dismay because my mushroomed mind had a hard time connecting the meaning of the donkeys in the desert visuals with the music and Dave’s voice and the effect was utterly comical. It was the first time I was laughing at a DM concert 🙈 but thank God I got more into it after that and I found them in a great shape, with beautiful energy and the crowd was powerful too ❤
Thank you,for a great review. I totally agree with you perspective regarding opening with the start of my “My Cosmos is Mine” . “People are good” is really missing on the live set. Keep up the good interesting view from another Artist.
You are so right when Behind the Wheel started it sounded so good, with Anton video and Alan on the screen, but then Gordeno started playing that cheap sounding Casio preset and my ears wanted to bleed
Hi Vaughn. I'm a drummer, so let me say I agree you on this one. The only time the drums sounded right with DM is when Alan played them. Since Christian joined the band, the drum sound is pretty bad. I think it's the creative decision, plus the concert toms (single drum head) sound really 70s, almost dead sounding. Snares are tuned way too low. On that note...I didn't bother see DM this time, and probably that was their last tour ever. Some people just don't know when to leave the stage leaving good memories. DM is degrading their shows every single time they come with the new tour. I saw Muse in the spring of 2023, and let me tell you, that DM concerts look like a pretty average cover band concert compared to titans like Muse. Good bye, DM. I prefer to return to the DM studio albums with Alah, to enjoy some of the greatness that has been captured in recordings.
Last great tours of Depeche Mode, after AW of course, were Singles Tour maybe, but particularly the Ultra 2 shows in LA and London as some of those recordings were released in singles, which sound great, just a more simple drum kit with a real drum kit sound rather than the massive layered drums they are using now, and also ONIP, yeah why not... Exciter Tour was pretty good and Christian's drum kit and the way he was playing at the time did fit depeche songs in a better way. Loving Vaughn's childish off the topic thing !!! Great review as always my man !!!
I’m sorry to hear Brian passed away. You both had such interesting plans. I see many of your points Vaughn, and I also saw an interview somewhere Alan saying that the other DM members would have been okay releasing the demo version of the songs. The others seemed to have a very relaxed approach. And it made sense now that DM’s greatness was really a lot of Alan and Flood’s (am I spelling that right?) spending all the time in the studio arranging and working on the songs. Probably makes sense why DM didn’t win a lot of music awards because musically it wasn’t an entire band contribution. Anyway, i think you summed it up-that will do attitude.
I extend my deepest sympathies for your loss, and my heartfelt condolences go out to you and his family. On the topic of Cristian's drumming, I've noticed a remarkable improvement during this tour, reminiscent of the drumming on the singles tour. I had the privilege of attending four shows with floor seats in Las Vegas and Los Angeles, closing out the US leg. Although I would have cherished the opportunity to hear "People are Good," unfortunately, it wasn't performed live. Let's please lose " A Pain that Used To" I agree LOL, please replace with "A Question of Time" ! "Condemnation" Las Vegas lounge version. LOL The overall concert mix and sound were truly extraordinary, creating an epic experience, much enjoyable than the Spirit Tour. I thoroughly enjoyed the Momento Mori video review, capturing the essence of the great concert. Keep up the great video work my friend.
Cosmos is the only song I really like from the album. Love it. Just seen them in Glasgow. Mostly fantastic but Dave’s voice was off key in 3 or 4 songs. Apart from that, great gig.
Not the first time you've raised very valid points regarding the drum sounds. They do sometimes detract severely from the songs. Not sure how this isn't evident to those producing the live sound, band included.
Having seen 2 shows on the 3rd leg (Atlanta and Toronto) I wish you’d spoken about the performances and less about the set list and sequencing. I found between the two show I saw the crowd energy played a huge role. Atlanta crowd was so muted but in Toronto the entire venue was singing along with Ghosts Again (just think about that - the recall on new material). Honestly, I wouldn’t care if they played the same set list if they came back again to NA. Plus - you do have to acknowledge that if you change the set list then you hav to revisit the graphics / supporting visuals (because as production manager that costs money.)
12:50 the last, good walking in my shoes version live i heard was from the 2009 o2 arena tour of the universe tour, where it starts with that beating drums and then it explodes into the real song.
The intro to Walking in My Shoes is based on (though the timing is different) the Random Carpet remix by William Orbit. And totally agree about Policy of Truth drums...the intricate programming of the drum track and the sounds used on it are crucial to the track.
First show I have seen DM live was 1984 and have really loved those guys dearly. I am thankful for so much. The last albums did not do it for me. MM being a better one. All the finesse has gone, they just seem to get over with it and record the demos good enough. The live backings, the studio musicians sounding like a DM tribute band to me. Even Dave has gone Soul singer with silly cabaret moves. Again, I really am thankful. It is just changed so much with Alan gone.
Dear Vaughn, I like your suggestions and I fully share your opinion. Could you be the production manager at least for the next Paris otherwise I will have too much beers to drink. Cheers.
When I heard, that they would tour again after Fletch died I really expected something extraordinary and special. (Maybe even Alan's return...) But almost nothing has changed. (Besides new stage design) It's the same routine over and over again and the live drumming still doesn' t fit most of the songs (Imho). Even the "backing tracks" have been the same forever. And I agree with Vaughn, why the hell do they Play Songs like "John the revelator"?
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Great video! Completely agree that APTIUT and JTR are taking up space in the set…especially when there are so many classic tracks more deserving like M&S and others!
I agree that Depeche's drummer "Rocks". 🤘👊 I think the live drummer debate is fascinating. Some Rock fans enjoy or feel that a more organic, lively version of Depeche kicking out the jams onstage gravitates towards them more, but DM devotees who saw them during the earlier years understandably prefer the more electronic elements to return up there. I get it. Its a fascinating discussion. I totally understand and respect where Vaughan and others are coming from. 👍 But I think the drumrolls, cresendos and the like add new dynamics and dimension to the songs live. Depeche attract a huge Rock and Metal audience. Far moreso than say, 20 years ago. They became a huge influence on bands like Smashing Pumpkins, Deftones,etc. Most other fans I know that have loved 'em long long before me dont care or compare either way about live drums. They are just happy to be at the gig, hear the songs and lose themselves in everything.👍
Flood said that the thing that makes DM unique Is that they are an electronic AND a rock n roll band ...so it Is, It Is quite useless not to admit that crying fot Alan after 30 years. Furtherly even Martin said that he loves playing guitars more than sinth
Full, in-depth and honest review of Depeche Mode's live gig at the London O2 Area on 22 January 2024 as part of their Memento Mori World Tour.
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1. Clean/2.Policy/3.Halo/4.In your room /5.Walking/6.Rush/7.Stripped/8.Question of time /9.Enjoy/10.The things you said /11.Shake the/12.Never let me/13.You never loved me/14.Barrel of/15.Behind the/16.Home/17.Personal/18. Black celebration /19.Suffer well/20.Is there something to do.
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Hiya from across the pond Vaughn ... I am SO behind on all too much of your FAB content. Most importantly .... I am soooo sad for your very heart of hearts with the great loss of Brian. I am so sad for this great loss and so appreciative for ALL the times you both shared with us together and projects etc. I hope you get time .... time to grieve and heal as you deserve such.
I'd much rather have People are People than People are Good.
@@TheBebMeister I agree but there is more chance of being kicked by a paralysed snake than Martin ever agreeing to perform that song again !! VG :-) :-)
DM accompanied me thru' a terrible time last year with the loss of my Dad. Id never seen them before, so almost two weeks ago in Dublin was an Apex of all the emotions playing and moving within. The show was phenomonal. I felt like I was on a dark, distant planet when "Cosmos" weaved its dark magic in the air, and the gig held me there all the whole way.
I was levitating for the whole gig, I was utterly blown away and could barely even applaud when, the back to back brilliance of Black Celebration and Stripped were unveiled.
New material was excellent, it worked wonderful with everything. I was in another world. I Loved it all.
Sorry for the loss of your Dad. I'm glad the music helped you through a dark time. VG :-)
@@VaughnGeorge 👍Thank you, Sir. Sorry too mate, for your recent loss. 'Cosmos" fitted perfectly alongside "Insight" and "In Your Room" when walking and thinking to myself in the evenings last year. I was Starstruck when Dave&Martin strolled onstage, and then 'Cosmos" put me in a Trance that, didnt let up for the whole show. 👍
Im a massive Metal/Rock fan and the DM Experience was one of the most intense gigs Ive been to in years. Other Worldly.
I was at the Dublin gig they were amazing
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@@kevinwilson598 They really looked like they were having a great time up there. Every song hit the mark with a roaring reaction, and I thought the new songs worked wonderfully in the darkened setting of indoors, especially "Cosmos" and "Before we Drown".
And when Dave remarked that we were "Better than England", the place lost it! 😀
I saw them 2 days after the opening in London in Birmingham and the Birmingham concert was absolutely awesome. Dave’s vocals and Martin’s especially were fantastic. The atmosphere celebratory. I’ve seen DM live since Violator days and the MM concert was one of the best I’ve seen!
I was told that the Birmingham show was brilliant. VG :-)
Fletch. Was a solid. He was the rock for both Dave & Martin. Fletch brought a sense of cohesiveness to the band and the performances. It didn't matter if he didn't do much musically, but his presence brought so much character, charm and depth to the band, that can never be replaced or forgotten. RIP Fletch. We miss you. ❣
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Very well said! 👏
So sorry Vaughn for your loss❤
I went to see them in Manchester as well as Twickenham. Manchester was a fantastic gig, Dave even said to the crowd "you are so much better than London". I love My Cosmos Is Mine, great track, I don't find it depressing at all, it's full of atmosphere.
I've been fortunate enough to see DM live on every tour since 1982. I do have to say I miss the full electronic experience, I would sooner have a drum machine over a live kit and I'm actually a drummer... But that's my opinion. If you look at the Vinegar Street sessions, I think that format would work great live and be quite refreshing for both band and audience.
I agree with the drum machine. I've seen every tour since 87. OMD have a live drummer and he sounds great. I think Eigner is wrong for DM.
Dave has said the "you guys are so much better than the [insert previous city here]" on just about all of the shows that in aware of.
@@beatsarebroken In Dublin he enthused that we were better than England.😀
He says that at every gig.
I love My Cosmos Is Mine. I know what's this song is about and it's crazy that I'm living through this time right now. It is happening. DM do what they should and if people don't care and come to the show for dancing from beginning to the end - they just close their eyes, cuz they're fine and everything is alright in their world. Other case Just Can't Get Enough! What a genius - not annoying at all - song it is! Yep... soundtrack of 2022+ So, Memento Mori, people. Nothing matter more then this, unfortunetely. This tour is little bit more then just music, want you or not. I'm proud of them.
Yep, I too love "Cosmos". It was an immence help to me last year listening to it in a trance , as the night fell. Its got such a mood, alien world vibe to it. I love Dark Mode like that anyway, and how, their current show can rumble to a brooding beginning with Cosmos, only to have you jump around to Just cant get Enough at the end. 👍
Totally agreed with VG on this one. MCIM makes sense as an album opening track, but definitely not as a live show opener. Just does not get that pop from the crowd that this band should give their audience.
I want DM to be an electronic band not a rock band and will always remember them as such ❤❤❤❤🌹
Vaughn, why don't you submit an application for a DM production manager for real, you never know I'm not kidding!
RIP Fletch
Thank you so much for making this video! I agree with everything you said especially regarding drumming 🙅♀🤷♀
Totally agree ....omd have never lost there electronic routes ....love dm ...but omd r better
I would like to have seen if DM would have honored Brian in their live shows. He was important for their visual appearance in the 80s. Maybe they could have used his pictures from Construction Time phase for the projections for Everything Counts.
That would have been nice! I would have loved to see that ! VG :-)
I agree with your comment about Fletch. For so much that was said about his lack of involvement, his presence certainly is missed, in PR things (interviews, fan interactions, etc) and even on the live shows. He might had been just a bloke clapping on the side of the stage in certain songs but even that is missed.
DM best drummers:
1. Alan Wilder
2. Drum Machine
RIP Brian
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DM best drummers:
1. Drum Machine
2. Alan Wilder
It´s f$cking DM, spootnik!
@DorisDay-lw4xs The drum machine is useless without Alan programming it
I agree devotional tour was the best sound of Depeche Mode live performances
@DorisDay-lw4xs might be,but devotional tour had more live sounds,live drums…it wasn’t too digital,it was a mix of sounds,which made it more natural
DM last great tour was 1993/4 with SOFAD. They are just a parody of their old lineup now. Most of their arrangements are just drowned out by Eigner bashing the drums like a toddler having a tantrum. The 2 major problems they have are that they are trying to play live drums over tracks that were originally written with drum machines, and secondly they massively miss Alans live arrangements.
Spot on!
Yes, yes, yes!!!
God how many fortunes I would give to see on stage those 3 Emaxes, no Kristian, no Gordino. Ok maybe 3 Kronoses, no argue on that. And imagine Alan Wilder again on stage. Just Martin ,Alan and Dave and 3 samplers on stage. And imagin them play the songs with the original electronic drum sounds and original stucture. And only "Walking in my shoes" and "In your room" would be played with live drums by Alan. Just like it was back in the day .Oh, wishfull thinking..
When Condemnation first came out Dave was singing from a place of extreme darkness and pain. So the song worked. He has since overcome all his demons, so that is why the song doesn't have the same kick & hit that it used too.
Perfect articulated Sandra! VG :-)
@DorisDay-lw4xs maybe it's not about you and it's about the person who was in a dark place and managed to wiggle out of it just by the hair on his chin.
Been to several shows of this tour and I have to agree with almost everything you mentioned in this video. However, for now I've attended just one gig of 4th leg in Dublin, which was way exceptional because of the venue itself. Dublin's 3Arena feels very intimate and the sound was absolutely amazing compared to all previous ones, even that messy line in Behind The Wheel sounded actually pretty okay 😀 ..and the band seemed to be in perfect mood and condition. Looking forward to both Prague shows now. Cheers!
Dublin was an absolute stunner. The 3Arena isnt as carniverous as perhaps areas are elsewhere, so its a perfect setting. They sounded hugh, and were consistantly smiling snd enjoying the show all the way.
Vaughn, I have seen this show 3 times, outdoor in Dublin, In New York and most recently in Dublin. The Dublin 3 Arena gig was epic, there was an alchemy between band and audience and it was incredible. It was clear the band were enjoying it. DM have a connection with Dublin, so you need to come here the next time!
I was at the Dublin show. My first time seeing them. Fecking Incredible. They absolutely looked as though they were having a great time up there, and Dave just could'nt stop moving and emoting the music along.
I was happy out with the set. Somebody, Strangelove, Behind the Wheel. And the new material had more depth, widescreen atmosphere live. Before we Drown was Massive.
I was pretty much in a starstruck daze from the onset, and "Cosmos" had this dark brooding buzz that felt like moody opening credits to a movie. Lulling you in then, Bang! Wagging Tounge, the lights come on and we have lift off! Stunning Night. The after show party in Temple Bar's "Button Factory" was class aswell. 👍👍
For whatever reason, i always gravitate towards (Before We Drown) & (Never Let Me Go) from Momento Mori Album.
Me too! Also, 'Always You" - what a song!
this Gig review was more like an Christian Eigner Roast and I loved it
Thanks to this recommendation I will actually go and watch it now
Crikey I’ve missed you on TH-cam! Love your Depeche Mode stuff. Was gutted when you moved to Patreon (VGTV) but love seeing you back here more.
I went to both nights at the O2 Arena. I thought DM were superb, especially on night 2. I screamed when they played Behind The Wheel! I thought Christian’s drumming was superb but each to their own. I had side seats for night 2 so my brother and I were super close to the stage. The sound from there was much clearer. I could hear the bass more. I had the best DM gig ever and I went to Twickenham which was really good but night 2 at the O2 was something else. Walking In My Shoes, It’s No Good, I Feel You, Behind The Wheel, Enjoy The Silence, NLMDA and Personal Jesus were my faves over both nights. It’s No Good and I Feel You are my tour faves. I was up in the gods for night one and I was up so high it felt like I was flying. My memory of being up that high headbanging to I Feel You and standing up for ETS and Personal Jesus will stay with me forever.
I too would drop John The Revelator. I would love A Question of Time. I have given up all hope of Freelove being played but wouldn’t Never Let Me Go sound just brilliant live? I have no idea why they haven’t played it.
Have they ever played The Sun and the Rainfall live? Can you imagine the excitement if they dropped something so unexpected into the set list as that?
Yes yes yes. That will be a great moment. A fantastic song.
@DorisDay-lw4xs it’s a great tune and one of their most underrated - makes you wonder why they don’t ever play it live? Dave or Martin must hate it.
Your "Louis Armstrong condemnation" version needs a proper release!
Do it!
Don't tempt me!! VG :--) ;-)
Thank you VG for all you do. I am terribly sorry to hear about Brian's passing and can only imagine what you're going through. On DM's live performances, I now prefer the small tribute bands honouring them and their legacy. I recently caught Strangelove and couldn't be happier.
Thank you for the kind words my friend ! VG :- )
So sorry to hear of Brian's passing! Thanks for keeping it going Vaughn, even when I don't see your posts right away. You are appreciated!
I can say that snare is not just 3% cause also gives the track melodic information not just drum hitting, those are for sure the missing elements from DM shows after Wilder
Great honest review Vaughn! I saw them here in my hometown, Detroit, back in November. When Martin came out he did a question of lust, and dressed in black. I just about lost my mind (in a good way of course). I thought they sounded fantastic! My only complaint is that they could (like you said) lose John the revelator, and a pain that im used to. Nobody cares about those songs. I want to see a few some great reward tracks in there instead!
I went to both evenings at the 02. On the second evening they played Before We Drown - which is my favourite track on MM, and they also dropped World in my eyes (!) for Behind the wheel. Both evenings were great. But I totally agree with the My Cosmos is mine super long intro approach to the start of the show. It's almost like it's there to allow Dave to warm up his voice. The only thing I don't like is, having seen them live since the CTA Tour, is that I can predict every 'Ad lib' that Dave does. But, whatever, they were great nights, and maybe their last tour.
Twickenham was immense. The crowd was amazing as always and the music and performances was on point
It was a superb show! VG :-)
Oh no. I'm so sorry to hear about Brian. I had a brief email exchange with him about a year ago when I was buying one of his prints. It was so great that he was accessible like that and that he worked with his channel in quite a unique way. I'm glad that he did and that people like me knew more about him and his work because of it. I wish you and his family all the best x
Re: the drum kit: I can't imagine how In Your Room sounded with the snare drum compressed?! The snare and bass drop are my favourite part of that version! So crisp; clean and solid sounding. (Much prefer it to the album version because of that rhythm section alone.)
I love People are Good and that would have been great to begin the concert💯agreed!
I absolutely LLLOOOVVVVEEE People Are Good and Always You. Regretfully, they haven’t played them live.
Hello Brother, I was at the same show and I thought it was very well done. My previous DM live gig was Touring The Universe was I felt wasn’t a great album or tour. Whilst I agree with a lot of your criticisms I disagree with others but that’s fine, it’s subjective. I’m just grateful they are still recording and touring new material, I also feel DM is in a no win situation. If they kept churning out Violator 1,2, & 3 they’d get slaughtered for it and if they try to be more experimental people have a go. On a positive, I want to thank you for highlighting Christian’s over-drumming which was horrible on Touring The Universe (see middle section of ETS) 🫣. This tour, they reeled him in. Lastly Mrs Eunson, how can you not be a Depeche Mode fan? 😳 🖤
I definitely agree they should change their set list and do it radically even, I've stopped going to DM shows because it's so boring hearing all the same songs more or less every time. Who really needs to hear Personal Jesus, Enjoy the silence, Just can't get enough etc you know all the usual suspects. I would love hearing a song like Fly on the windscreen, Blasphemous rumours or Sacred, and from latter albums songs like Always or Ghost and so on. :/
As always Vaughn your honesty in your review is refreshing. Couldn't agree more with My Cosmos Is Mine. Dreadful opener. It is what it is now I guess. Off to see The Devout next week in Edinburgh where they play for 3 hours and don't play anything after 1997. More my cup of tea these days. DM 84-98 though will never be beaten both in the studio and live.
Cheers Frank!! VG :-)
Saw the Manchester gig and felt they were on top of their game.. Given I was pretty disappointed in all their albums from exciter onwards (up until memento mori which I love) I was VERY happy with the setlist (ESPECIALLY getting Somebody and Behind the Wheel.. I appreciate why some people would prefer the drum track to live drums but I actually prefer the live kit but that's just my opinion. I do wonder if the tinkering of the setlist to add fan service might be leading up to a glasto announcement..............
I love Depeche Mode but I must say that if you compare now Depeche Mode and Pet Shop Boys PSB have done much more brilliant records during 1995-2024 and singles every year and they have gorgeous concerts even now... When Alan left Depeche Mode it was the beginning of the end...
I'd strongly agree with that ! VG 🎹👍😎
It was great singing along to DM with you! Fun night! I wish you were in charge of the set list! Love your change suggestions! I wish the O2 only held 12,000, supposedly the capacity is 20,000. I know that the floor was packed more than any other arena I've ever been to!
For DM gigs in the past, capacity has been around 15,000.
I have to say i was thrilled to see Black Celebration live again yes different from when i saw it on the. Violator tour but the atmosphere was amazing amd its one of my sons favourites so he was thrilled ❤😊
Great video Vaughn!
I'm sad that 'Wrong' has been left out of the setlist :(
Loved that track
Glad you enjoyed the video ! VG :-)
Agree but Doesn’t work live like so many Dm songs , BOAG especially
Bring back the drum machine!
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Nah, Real People, Love his Drumming.
Could you do better ???.
I hear it, your into the original stuff.
@@suzannealdridge1404 no I couldn't do better..but the tracks made with drum machines would be better kept as such.There are certain live songs that sound great with a drummer.
I think your comment is suggesting I'm implying Christian should no longer be used..not at all! I believe both should be used...real people would understand that.
I agree. Christian could even add percussive bits to the drum machine to give those songs a fresh edge.
No. Christian is amazing.
Saw them play Photographic instead of Just cant get enough at Wireless '06. Was my 1st and only DM gig. Girlfriend was very upset that they dropped Just cant get enough! ("You said they always play it..." :)
I was at the Birmingham gig with my son, it was amazing, I agree some songs they could drop, would love to have heard a question of time and Master and servant, the stage and lights were fantastic, we went to Twickenham some songs I thought were better at Twickenham and vice versa, I thought Stripped was amazing at Twickenham not so good in brum, Ghosts again I thought sounded so much better in Birmingham, I saw them on the Violator tour back in the day as well, all in all fantastic, great memories and just wonderful to have my son with me, respect your honesty VG ❤
I expected you to gush about the show. I'm glad you keep it real!
Cheers
Incomprensible how they didn’t include older hits in favor of the ones no one cares for
I’m so sorry for the loss of your dear friend. The book you made together is outstanding and I am enjoying it immensely. ❤
Thank you for your kind words Lyn! I am glad you are enjoying the book! VG :-)
I saw them in London too, apart from My Cosmos Is Mine, I sang my heart out to the rest of the show. The atmosphere was amazing.
I saw them at the O2 on the 27th and thought they were amazing, took me days to come down from the high. We all see things differently but I loved it. I'm just glad that they are still around and making music after 40 years. Their age is surely reflected in their performance and new music. They are no longer young men.
I was there on the 27th...Martin singing 'Somebody' stole the show for me. Loved the whole gig. Also took me ages to come down!
I love this concert review.. I have seen DM a couple of times. Find them all a bit similar nowadays. I looked at some vids from this year and i can understand your comments. But still long live DM and MM is a great album 🙂
I was just yesterday in the Barcelona show. I liked a lot, with some changes in the set list (they dropped John the Revelator).
But when I entered the after show party and Christmas Island was on (just as you entered a sinister hell-cave) you realize how different could be the intro and the show...
So the Jacques Lu Cont version really has become a pain that we're used to!
Brilliantly said James !! VG 🤭🤣🤣🤣
@VaughnGeorge Love it as a remix but yeah, would've been nice if they'd performed the album version.
@@jamesspear9711 absolutely agree with you Sir!! VG
@jamesspear9711
Spot on!
I would have loved to be at the Depeche Mode concert last weekend in Copenhagen. BUT!!!! I would much rather have been to a Devotional Tour concert! Why? For a few obvious reasons as you also pointed out. The band still had Fletch alive and Alan Wilder was in the band. There were no annoying Rock drummer ruining many of the epic songs (lets face it normal drums is not what we associate DM's songs with)! They did not remix many of the songs with awful sounds from synth catalouges into pale imitations of the originals. They did clever arrangements that stood out (probably thanks to Alan Wilder) and Dave's voice was just much much better (duh age does play a role and thats ok).
You are spot on!
Hi Vaughn, great to see you on here, i thought you're looking well, and thank you for your time, opinions and thoughts, I had several laugh out loud moments, and enjoyed hearing how you feel. I hope you cleaned up the microphone you spat over😅. On another subject I am sorry about the sad loss of Brian .
I look forward to hearing future podcasts.
Congrats on performing with Mesh. Sadly I couldn't get to see you all due to ill health but wonder if they'll be a new album out this year?
Best wishes and take good care of you and your family xxx
Hello Jennifer!! Always good to hear from you. I appreciate your kind words and support as always. Lots of love to you and your family too!
VG :-)
@@VaughnGeorge ❤
Caught them at Amsterdam Twickenham & Birmingham, wish they would've popped Rush in & I would love to see them open with higher love again, an absolute stunner of a track
Momento is an absolute stellar album! Saw them at the 3 arena dublin recently I was upfront to left of stage only complaint was the sound wasn't great.
Thought it was just me 👍🏻
Appreciate your review, i saw them last year in Oslo and I loved every minute of the show. But then again I am a big fan 😅❤ and it is my PERSONAL opinion.
The version of everything counts on thr devotional tour is not found anywhere except the concert video,what an exceptional arrangement by Alan
All the backing tapes from the Devotional period were exceptional, I do agree with you. VG :-)
I seen DM twice in the last year.. they played Ireland Summer 2023 and Feb 2024.. the indoor show was enjoyable.. I agree with your analysis… I think the small details that Wilder did, is why DM have a legacy .. if they were to live off the post Wilder period .. their touring would not be as extensive..
I really like your honest and no bs analysis. Keep it up Vaughn.
Thanks, will do! VG 😎👍
Condemnation lounge bar version, LOL. Great video, thanks!
Very honest review. What can I say, I would have said the same thing. And by the way, Black Celebration was transposed semi-tone lower as well as Stripped from original on the record D-minor.
Well spotted on the key change on BC! I never noticed that ! I shall re-listen, VG :-)
Saw them in Glasgow a couple of weeks ago and thoroughly enjoyed it, still sounded great.
Great analysis. I saw them twice during the North American 3rd leg and I found myself getting bored towards the end of the show. I agree with much of what you say and observed. The only thing is the Donkeys on the beach was the back video for “It’s No Good.” It was the jewel studded skulls for “Enjoy the Silence.”
I have seen DM three times during this tour i.e. Twickenham, Warsaw, and Łódź (Poland). Warsaw concert was by far the best, then London and Łódź, which was quite dissapointing. I have a feeling that they are bored by now and I have to admit by their own fault. They do not change much in their performance and play very easy arrangements musically. As I was born in 1980 I would so much prefer if they went back to their previous style. GET ALAN BACK ;)
Having said that, I would love to see them for the 4th time :)
As a staunch devotee of DM, and also a rock music aficionado, I actually like Christian's drumming on the live sets. DM crosses genres in their live performances and becomes a rock outfit - and I like that. So it's a matter of taste really. Also, just the visual aesthetics of their live performances is very rock band. Martin is usually on guitars, the drums are visually and sonically very present and prominent, Dave is very charismatic and full of energy. Total rock aesthetics. This is what draws the crowds and makes each live experience a night to remember. This is what separates DM from any other electronic music artist. You can't deny that.
Chistian Eigner sucks. Period.
@@gustavo2100that's your opinion - and apparently @VaughnGeorge shares your sentiment. However, there must be a reason Christian's been with DM for over a quarter of a century! Any drummer anywhere would kill to be part of DM's live setup - but they stuck with Christian, and for good reason. He's the perfect balance between a drum machine and a live rock drummer - with enough oomph to make his own mark and not be overshadowed by Dave and Martin. There's a reason why he's so prominent on stage, and not in the dark shadows. He brings the energy that a live set needs - while being rock-steady.
Fly on the windscreen would have been a great song to open the concerts too. Do you think that, or why they don't sing some of the songs that we all have associated DM when Alan Wilder was part of the band, and love so much have anything to do with paying Royalties' to Alan Wilder? I read in an interview where AW had said that he gets 25% of the Royalties. I wonder if song selection have anything to do with that? Not sure how Royalties and music works.
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That is very good point!!
The Eigner mimick at 32’00’’ is a must 😂😂
Can’t stop laughing!
Buh buh buh buh
Looks like Animal in the Muppet Show😂
Black Celebration needs the regimentation of programmed drums
Your impression of Dave singing Condemnation nowadays is my new favourite. You nailed it. Lounge Dave, with a touch of Louis Armstrong. So true. Even if Alan rejoined, I think he would be at odds with lounge/rock n' roll/blues Dave. I think they've gone too far in their current direction.
I went to the O2 show. It was fantastic. I dont like Cosmos but loved all the other songs. Martin and Dave were on top form and their voices beautiful. 💌
Thoroughly enjoyed Birmingham, 6th time seeing them and they still got it. I like the changing up in most cases, how boring would it be if every song sounded like the albums. Enjoy your honest opinion, all i would say is they keep selling out world arena tours, so they must be doing something right :)
I think the live drumming is bloody brilliant. Im a huge rock/metal fan, so I really think the percussion lifts the tracks hugher. Take "Precious'. The song had more dynamic, depth and departures because of the added peaks and valleys because of the propelling percussion. I understand that fans want to have a more electronic beat going like onthe album, but I love the lively, rock an roll feel that a full band gives. 👍
Clearly, you do not know the real DM live sound: different from the album, but electronic and perfect. They were famous by their live remixes, so... WTF are you talking about?!
@@gustavo2100 thats what i said
I really love the live drumming. It gives the songs energy. I wouldn’t like to hear a drum machine, it wouldn’t be a ‘live’ performance. Just my take anyway
Depeche Mode ia not The same Band since Song of faith and Devotion 😁👍
I like ‘My Cosmos is Mine’. Now you know someone who does. 😉
Fair enough ! VG :-)
I love it.👍 I understand it might not be peoples ideal opening to a show if especially they want a massive uptempo track to lift it all off. I get that. But, I love Cosmos's dark trance it spells on you. Its like something from a movie, its got an eerie , doom laden vibe to it.
Not everyones cuppa tea I know, but I think its awesome!
Fletch had a more grass roots connection to people. Dave and Martin have been in their billionaire's bubble in Santa Barbara a bit too long, methinks...
I saw them for the fourth leg in Barcelona this time and I have to admit that I dropped a tiny bit of mushrooms before the show, so I was full-on by the time of the 2nd of 3rd song which had the donkey visuals in the background which left me in total dismay because my mushroomed mind had a hard time connecting the meaning of the donkeys in the desert visuals with the music and Dave’s voice and the effect was utterly comical. It was the first time I was laughing at a DM concert 🙈 but thank God I got more into it after that and I found them in a great shape, with beautiful energy and the crowd was powerful too ❤
Thank you,for a great review. I totally agree with you perspective regarding opening with the start of my “My Cosmos is Mine” . “People are good” is really missing on the live set. Keep up the good interesting view from another Artist.
Thank you my friend ! I am glad you enjoyed the video ! Thanks for your support!! VG
You are so right when Behind the Wheel started it sounded so good, with Anton video and Alan on the screen, but then Gordeno started playing that cheap sounding Casio preset and my ears wanted to bleed
Haha, yes - Casio VL Tone - brought back memories - just not the right ones!
@@alijafri2022 Trio's Da da da come to mind haha
I respect your HONEST opinioN! Love, A LOYAL DM FAN since 1984
Hi Vaughn. I'm a drummer, so let me say I agree you on this one. The only time the drums sounded right with DM is when Alan played them. Since Christian joined the band, the drum sound is pretty bad. I think it's the creative decision, plus the concert toms (single drum head) sound really 70s, almost dead sounding. Snares are tuned way too low. On that note...I didn't bother see DM this time, and probably that was their last tour ever. Some people just don't know when to leave the stage leaving good memories. DM is degrading their shows every single time they come with the new tour. I saw Muse in the spring of 2023, and let me tell you, that DM concerts look like a pretty average cover band concert compared to titans like Muse. Good bye, DM. I prefer to return to the DM studio albums with Alah, to enjoy some of the greatness that has been captured in recordings.
Last great tours of Depeche Mode, after AW of course, were Singles Tour maybe, but particularly the Ultra 2 shows in LA and London as some of those recordings were released in singles, which sound great, just a more simple drum kit with a real drum kit sound rather than the massive layered drums they are using now, and also ONIP, yeah why not... Exciter Tour was pretty good and Christian's drum kit and the way he was playing at the time did fit depeche songs in a better way. Loving Vaughn's childish off the topic thing !!! Great review as always my man !!!
I’m sorry to hear Brian passed away. You both had such interesting plans.
I see many of your points Vaughn, and I also saw an interview somewhere Alan saying that the other DM members would have been okay releasing the demo version of the songs. The others seemed to have a very relaxed approach. And it made sense now that DM’s greatness was really a lot of Alan and Flood’s (am I spelling that right?) spending all the time in the studio arranging and working on the songs. Probably makes sense why DM didn’t win a lot of music awards because musically it wasn’t an entire band contribution. Anyway, i think you summed it up-that will do attitude.
The donkeys were in It's not good, but I would also like to know what was in Anton's mind.
I extend my deepest sympathies for your loss, and my heartfelt condolences go out to you and his family. On the topic of Cristian's drumming, I've noticed a remarkable improvement during this tour, reminiscent of the drumming on the singles tour. I had the privilege of attending four shows with floor seats in Las Vegas and Los Angeles, closing out the US leg. Although I would have cherished the opportunity to hear "People are Good," unfortunately, it wasn't performed live. Let's please lose " A Pain that Used To" I agree LOL, please replace with "A Question of Time" ! "Condemnation" Las Vegas lounge version. LOL The overall concert mix and sound were truly extraordinary, creating an epic experience, much enjoyable than the Spirit Tour. I thoroughly enjoyed the Momento Mori video review, capturing the essence of the great concert. Keep up the great video work my friend.
Cosmos is the only song I really like from the album. Love it. Just seen them in Glasgow. Mostly fantastic but Dave’s voice was off key in 3 or 4 songs. Apart from that, great gig.
Not the first time you've raised very valid points regarding the drum sounds. They do sometimes detract severely from the songs. Not sure how this isn't evident to those producing the live sound, band included.
You ask a very interesting question there my friend. I do wonder what the production crew have in mind or how they are hearing it? VG :-)
Having seen 2 shows on the 3rd leg (Atlanta and Toronto) I wish you’d spoken about the performances and less about the set list and sequencing. I found between the two show I saw the crowd energy played a huge role. Atlanta crowd was so muted but in Toronto the entire venue was singing along with Ghosts Again (just think about that - the recall on new material). Honestly, I wouldn’t care if they played the same set list if they came back again to NA. Plus - you do have to acknowledge that if you change the set list then you hav to revisit the graphics / supporting visuals (because as production manager that costs money.)
12:50 the last, good walking in my shoes version live i heard was from the 2009 o2 arena tour of the universe tour, where it starts with that beating drums and then it explodes into the real song.
Agree - Behind The Wheel was unforgivable. They did it in Copenhagen.
My Cosmos is mine is a bold song Il do love it and I find very exciting they start their shows with that particular tune
The intro to Walking in My Shoes is based on (though the timing is different) the Random Carpet remix by William Orbit. And totally agree about Policy of Truth drums...the intricate programming of the drum track and the sounds used on it are crucial to the track.
First show I have seen DM live was 1984 and have really loved those guys dearly. I am thankful for so much. The last albums did not do it for me. MM being a better one. All the finesse has gone, they just seem to get over with it and record the demos good enough. The live backings, the studio musicians sounding like a DM tribute band to me. Even Dave has gone Soul singer with silly cabaret moves. Again, I really am thankful. It is just changed so much with Alan gone.
Great review George! Next month, I'm going to see the guys live in Lisbon, March 19, 2024!! :)
I'm sure you will enjoy it my friend !! VG :-)
We should have beer 🍺 just bashing the druming of BC.
I’ll drink to that!!
Dear Vaughn, I like your suggestions and I fully share your opinion. Could you be the production manager at least for the next Paris otherwise I will have too much beers to drink. Cheers.
When I heard, that they would tour again after Fletch died I really expected something extraordinary and special. (Maybe even Alan's return...) But almost nothing has changed. (Besides new stage design) It's the same routine over and over again and the live drumming still doesn' t fit most of the songs (Imho). Even the "backing tracks" have been the same forever. And I agree with Vaughn, why the hell do they Play Songs like "John the revelator"?
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It's always a success with VG: "nothing to say"!!
He is still very awesome on his TH-cam channel which will never change anything!💯🎉😎🤓🤠
You will always be the Top of the Top essential for all of us 😍👍🆒❤️
Great video! Completely agree that APTIUT and JTR are taking up space in the set…especially when there are so many classic tracks more deserving like M&S and others!
I LOVE the Drummer, He ROCKS BIG time...RESPECT... 👋💚👍
Here's the issue: "He Rocks" - Depeche Mode is NOT a Rock Band! VG :-)
I agree that Depeche's drummer "Rocks". 🤘👊 I think the live drummer debate is fascinating. Some Rock fans enjoy or feel that a more organic, lively version of Depeche kicking out the jams onstage gravitates towards them more, but DM devotees who saw them during the earlier years understandably prefer the more electronic elements to return up there. I get it. Its a fascinating discussion.
I totally understand and respect where Vaughan and others are coming from. 👍 But I think the drumrolls, cresendos and the like add new dynamics and dimension to the songs live.
Depeche attract a huge Rock and Metal audience. Far moreso than say, 20 years ago. They became a huge influence on bands like Smashing Pumpkins, Deftones,etc.
Most other fans I know that have loved 'em long long before me dont care or compare either way about live drums. They are just happy to be at the gig, hear the songs and lose themselves in everything.👍
Flood said that the thing that makes DM unique Is that they are an electronic AND a rock n roll band ...so it Is, It Is quite useless not to admit that crying fot Alan after 30 years.
Furtherly even Martin said that he loves playing guitars more than sinth
I saw them in Birmingham on the the 24th of January 2024 and I really loved it.