Rome's Last Citizen: The Life and Legacy of Cato, Mortal Enemy of Caesar (Rob Goodman)

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  • @bluelithium9808
    @bluelithium9808 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Cato spent his entire life protecting the elite oligarchy under the banner of protecting Romes traditions. Look where that got the oligarchy "Republic."

    • @baricdondarion6228
      @baricdondarion6228 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Exactly. Cato fought all his life to preserve the "old ways" the old ways where an incredibly tiny minority get to sit on over 90% of the wealth of the republic. He had a disdain for the common people. He hid under the clock of tradition to hold back much needed reform. He essentially with his uncompromising nature killed the very thing he claim to love.

    • @kgblankinship
      @kgblankinship 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@baricdondarion6228 : Cato was following the path already cut by Lucius Cornelius Sulla 35 years prior.

    • @Oscuros
      @Oscuros หลายเดือนก่อน

      The other thing is also that these people would never have the humility to not wear shoes, like Cato would not and just a plain black toga, he would refuse to go on a horse and go on foot instead, causing his peers to have to talk down to him. I agree with everyone else that he was an arch patrician optimate, but even as that and their pretensions to being like him, they could not abide by it. These people that have misappropriated Cato the Younger like this would never set aside any grain of the comfort, let alone privilege that they have, they also think a lot with their emotions, which Cato would never do either.
      If he could take that rostrum, he'd condemn them, tell them to disband and stop using his name, out of the principle and then because these are soft men with no real principles.

  • @startek119
    @startek119 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Wait, y’all like the story of Cato denying people the right to a trial?
    Cato is not a guy to respect. He basically obstructed populist reforms that improved quality of life for Romans. When Caesar tried to challenge this, he was forced out of the Roman upper class and sent to Gaul. He came back with an army and then instituted populist reforms. Y’all like for his integrity but his “integrity” essentially caused the civil war in addition to the resistance to the populist reforms. The only thing he accomplished was a lot of death.

    • @bloodbased
      @bloodbased 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So are you a fan of populism, or Caesarism?

    • @startek119
      @startek119 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bloodbased Caesarian. Those populist reforms were needed

  • @redjirachi1
    @redjirachi1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    How much of his hatred for Caesar came from the fact his sister was Caesar's favorite mistress?

    • @username-wq4us
      @username-wq4us 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Such a thing was not uncommon in this time. Very little, I wager.

    • @logos3522
      @logos3522 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And you blame him or Julius?

    • @sameerthakur720
      @sameerthakur720 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@redjirachi1 Half-sister. Same mother (Livia Drusa). Different father's (Cato Salonianius and Quintus Servilius Caepio)

  • @Munkybhai
    @Munkybhai 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Cato's shortsightedness, smallmindedness and greed opened the door for the demise of the senate as he rendered it useless with his endless filibustering, made tax collection almost impossible, reneged on giving Pompey's veterans what the had been promised thus turning their allegience from the Senate even more towards the g.enerals, and tried to slight Caesar by denying him a Trumph for his conquests in Gaul. It all came back to haunt him as Caesar circumvented the senate to the pass laws that were needed to fix Rome as consul and then utilized the loyalty of his troops to enter Rome at the head of his army.

  • @chrisbloomgren822
    @chrisbloomgren822 6 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Kind of left out Cicero who presided over that execution

  • @antoniosorrenti9329
    @antoniosorrenti9329 11 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    the greatest man i have ever heard of, he is my daily inspiration , he is the kind of man i want to be. Long live Cato's memory, justice, virtue, compassion, love and Freedom!

    • @dragonslayer7627
      @dragonslayer7627 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      He was an old fart.

    • @fariborzgolriz7315
      @fariborzgolriz7315 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Those who don’t know philosophy will always be lame.

    • @youngin5112
      @youngin5112 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Antonio Sorrenti fuck cato

    • @imagiraffe4870
      @imagiraffe4870 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dragonslayer7627 It says Cato the Younger in his name, DUH

    • @yesdvt
      @yesdvt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      These idiots saying that cato was an old fart are just idiots. Cato was a young guy. Younger than Kaizar. And yes its not Cesar but Kaizar.

  • @MrThomasdichmont
    @MrThomasdichmont 11 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    the speech that changed the senate was made by Cicero.

    • @Cato_Minor
      @Cato_Minor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      no, Cicero initally convinced the senate to his case, but after caeser's speech all were voting his way, then Cato spoke is a very convincing manner and swayed the senate back to the execution standpoint.

    • @bluelithium9808
      @bluelithium9808 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True. It was Cicero who killed the conspirators and argued in the Senate.

  • @freesk8
    @freesk8 11 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    George Washington is said to have loved the play "Cato."

  • @Cato229
    @Cato229 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These are stories that are worthy of remembering.

  • @Pirake123
    @Pirake123 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Cato was petty and hypocritical. He hid behind his "principles" as a smokescreen for his competitive political games, ultimately leading to the end of the republic.

  • @kgblankinship
    @kgblankinship 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Cato was an Optimate, an advocate of oligarchical government of rule by wealthy landowners through the Roman Senate. Championed earlier by Lucius Sulla, who dismantled the elected aspects of the Roman Republic during his tenure, Cato and the other optimates believed that only the educated rich were qualified to rule. The masses will never stand for that and in that time, being unable to produce champions of their own anymore, like Tiberius Gracchus, they rallied behind Caesar. Caesar was more a Juan Peron' type of figure - autocratic and populist.
    Of course the people were foolhardy to surrender their power to an autocrat, but by that time they could no longer control their government. It was that or be predated upon by oligarchs bent on extracting the most from the economy and totally indifferent to their interests - like those who fund the Cato Institute here in America today.

  • @Dark0Knight94
    @Dark0Knight94 11 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You would find that Marcellus forced Pompey to turn against Caesar, cato just supported Marcellus.

  • @SentMKG
    @SentMKG 11 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is a fantastic video and discussion from this organization. Love it Cato keep it up guys.

  • @FrasiIndelebili
    @FrasiIndelebili 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    you are right Bearded Snowden

  • @gregalexludwig
    @gregalexludwig 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great presentation, thanks for uploading!!

  • @jmbrissett5545
    @jmbrissett5545 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is by far the worst description of Cato I've ever heard.

  • @maximilienfrancoisderobesp202
    @maximilienfrancoisderobesp202 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Fuck this.
    Caesar Aeternum!

    • @Jack_804
      @Jack_804 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shut up anglo

  • @RebelRadius
    @RebelRadius 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was terrific!

  • @educationalramblings6826
    @educationalramblings6826 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would place the life Mandela next to anyone’s as an example of living one’s principles ....

  • @MikeMcGrath666
    @MikeMcGrath666 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Cato was a fool

  • @Mark-ok8ss
    @Mark-ok8ss 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cato would never support a Kenyan from Hawaii, he was a man who refused to accept change. He truly destroyed the country he loved

  • @rehmsmeyer
    @rehmsmeyer 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I liked it until I tried to make sense of how politics can exist unaffected by self-interest. I just cannot get behind that one.

    • @ShinjiHirako777
      @ShinjiHirako777 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Cato was a stoic. He was an ideolgoue and a devout follower of that philosophical sect. He followed that way of living thoroughly.

    • @davestuddaman8127
      @davestuddaman8127 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Which is why you must have a rotation of politicians. Every 4 years

  • @Aemilius46
    @Aemilius46 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cato the Younger was a Great Roman!! I personally prefer his Ancestor, Marcus Porcius Cato "The Elder"! The type of Roman that would stand for his Virtues, and his Nation, even if it meant standing alone! 🛡️🗡️

    • @bill9989
      @bill9989 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Virtues? "If your slave gets too old to work, then sell him."

  • @balzache
    @balzache 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:42 I thought someone was trying to get my attention in my home lmao

  • @penguinistas
    @penguinistas 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent.

  • @MrThomasdichmont
    @MrThomasdichmont 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    cicero came up with optimates

  • @freedomworks3976
    @freedomworks3976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Cato was a straight up OG gangsta 😤 💯

  • @hikhuphoenix4107
    @hikhuphoenix4107 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Well, this guy is not biased at all. . .

  • @dj.deb.usa007justiceangels6
    @dj.deb.usa007justiceangels6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the ART THERAPY 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 VIDEOS

  • @timwright4676
    @timwright4676 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Principled to advocate for the death penalty without trial?

  • @sameerthakur720
    @sameerthakur720 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the other Cato... The elder guy who said, "Delenda Carthago. "

    • @bill9989
      @bill9989 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He also said that if your slave gets too old to work, then sell him.

  • @deplorablesecuritydevices
    @deplorablesecuritydevices 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The part of Cato's story which sticks out to me the most was when he abandoned his trusted war horse in spain(?) because it was inefficient to bring it back to Rome. No one mentions that but it reminds me of how inhumane a disciplined life can appear.

    • @TheDigitalStoic
      @TheDigitalStoic 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Abandoning a horse is considered inhumane? I wonder what your opinions are on eating any sort of meat!

  • @kappaklaus2671
    @kappaklaus2671 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One of the greatest men that ever lived, and certainly Rome's finest. A hero of the people and an icon still. He saw through the charade of Roman politics and tried his best to save Rome from corrupt senators. Long live Julius Caesar's memory!

    • @Insectoid_
      @Insectoid_ ปีที่แล้ว

      How??? He only ever wanted the rich to be richer and in control. He was trash.

  • @netizencapet
    @netizencapet 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    CaTo is the only think tank on the Right that I can tolerate because they at least have some elemental commitment to principle and human dignity. Through I don't concur with what I perceive as their simplistic and ill-conceived economic doctrines.

  • @marcuscato3599
    @marcuscato3599 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cato was too truthful.

  • @andywomack3414
    @andywomack3414 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So this think tank is named for an effective orator advancing the interests of a wealthy elite and leading the call for the Carthaginian genocide. Oh, that was his dad.

    • @matthewgraham6980
      @matthewgraham6980 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And the capital and a state are named for an effective leader and slave owner, I.e Washington. Grow up. People aren’t perfect but we can still admire and study their lives.

    • @cellocovers3982
      @cellocovers3982 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, we were the best, that is why we are on top.

    • @andywomack3414
      @andywomack3414 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@matthewgraham6980 You miss my point.

    • @andywomack3414
      @andywomack3414 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@emresener08 I get your point. Clumsy me. "Wealthy elites" or something like that would have been a better choice. Thanks for the edit.

    • @andywomack3414
      @andywomack3414 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matthewgraham6980 I did. Made appropriate edit.

  • @godking
    @godking หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cato the Mitch McConnell of his time.

  • @skpr01
    @skpr01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    cato is just who i wish i could be. principle is more important then public relations. all day. every day.

    • @theheiroflotharingia8543
      @theheiroflotharingia8543 ปีที่แล้ว

      until said principles leads to the death of the things you are principled towards

  • @James_Wisniewski
    @James_Wisniewski 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Victrix causa deis placuit sed victa Catoni.

  • @Pseudonym25
    @Pseudonym25 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Cato Uticensis!

  • @benjaminking6583
    @benjaminking6583 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We need Cato today

  • @yunleung2631
    @yunleung2631 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Hail Caesar! Imperator victor!
    I much rather have a Caesar than a Cato, corruptly defending the interest of the elites.

    • @Jack_804
      @Jack_804 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bruh, Caeser literally bougth votes for magistrate in Rome, he was the corrupt tyrant that destroied democracy in ancient rome.

    • @silversnail1413
      @silversnail1413 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You end up a slave at the end of the day regardless, so what does it matter? I highly doubt Caesar cared that much about the common people anyway, he was just manipulating them for political clout and using them as a shield to deflect from the consequences of his growing tyranny.

    • @yunleung2631
      @yunleung2631 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@silversnail1413 That's what the ancient writers thought, but let's keep in mind they're mostly from the aristocracy. Rich oligarchs that controlled the country.
      Rome was a slave-centric society, but if I was a citizen and social mobility wasn't bad, you could argue it's a good deal

  • @premjianand3210
    @premjianand3210 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Soni's laughs are disturbing.

  • @pasquino0733
    @pasquino0733 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How on earth does your site you get limited government from Cato? The Phaedo that Cato reads is by someone who is all about serious government intervention i.e. Plato - The Republic. All the great classical authors are about government involvement in statehood. The Nicomachean Ethics etc...

    • @pasquino0733
      @pasquino0733 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nov1706 They stand for it and yes of course I did. Cato and ALL of classical philosophy and virtue ethics are completely contrary to the concept of limited government, which this group espouses. Cato, Cicero - earlier Aristotle - are all about virtue being defined IN relation to the far reaching power and existence of the state.

    • @pasquino0733
      @pasquino0733 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nov1706 Fascinating that you've just made an assertion, versus a reply based on critical thinking - or what classical philosophy terms reason.

  • @adamhouse6305
    @adamhouse6305 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cato & Kato are great!

  • @dj.deb.usa007justiceangels6
    @dj.deb.usa007justiceangels6 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dante's inferno

  • @trashlag
    @trashlag 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cato threw

  • @olivergibbons9581
    @olivergibbons9581 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bernie Sanders is the closest thing we have to a modern day Cato. Change my mind.

    • @filmicreviews3270
      @filmicreviews3270 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cato was a conservative and was against policies for land grants. His party that he led was very pro oligarchy.

    • @panoskatrin4910
      @panoskatrin4910 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@filmicreviews3270 Bernie sanders is the closest example of an american politician at least today who can be compared to cato in terms of values and how uncompromising and stubborn they are in their beliefs, Bernie refused to be part of "identity politics" in the democratic party and has always focused on policies, Bernie is not a crowd appeaser he stands by what he believes just like cato, but other than that yea when it comes to policies cato was an ultra conservative who was in favor of oligarchy and had a very low opinion of the avarge roman citizens

    • @Jack_804
      @Jack_804 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@panoskatrin4910 What? Are you dumb? The Roman Republic died because of man like Sanders, Caeser was a socialist of his time.

    • @panoskatrin4910
      @panoskatrin4910 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jack_804 land reform doesn't equal "ancient socialism" it is completely idiotic to compare a politician who ran for the presidency to a man who held both political and military power and had the support of the most power figures in his time

    • @panoskatrin4910
      @panoskatrin4910 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jack_804 nvm I just realized ur a kid

  • @henriomoeje8741
    @henriomoeje8741 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This shd be a test for politicians. There are crazy people in congress today, not akin to public service.

  • @thelastbison2241
    @thelastbison2241 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Too many fake Catos today.

  • @Mocoso7
    @Mocoso7 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    O.o

  • @maximilienfrancoisderobesp202
    @maximilienfrancoisderobesp202 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also, suicide is cowardice!

    • @dsmyify
      @dsmyify 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Have you tried it?