Kitakami wasn't removed because it was too strong. No it was because it had more Teammate kills than enemies, as friendly fire was still possible back then and 40 20km torpedos that were mostly launched from 2nd or even 3rd row does that.
Very rare that you see it still even after introduced again recently for short time. torpedo DD do the job better and tend to find that kitakami once spotted gets hammered.
It didn't have 20km torps, it had 10km torps, and it performed absolutely miserably in battles, even at T8. It was really really bad as a ship, and I reckon that this, along with its TK potential, is the reason why it was removed. It was just not worth the money.
@@broccanmacronain457 Going by average game results, Atago is among the weakest T8 cruisers with 50.1% WR and 38.9k average damage. Obviously it isn‘t really, but how well a ship can do doesn’t matter in terms of balancing, it‘s about how the average potato does with it.
Prolly my favorite premium is my 750k free xp Missouri. Still gets an extra baked in credit earning ( even though i do think weegee nerfed it behind the scenes) and that's the main point of a premium after all.
Nice list, dear Sea Lord. Atago can be played like a torp DD, i remember a battle when i did this stuff with her. The opponent base was full of ships, cruiser and BB, so i used the good concealment and sent all torps into that base. As they arrived, chaos broke out, ships ramming each other and i scored a triple kill. One was an unspotted DD, the others a BB and a cruiser. My whole team laughed hard like i did, then i waited for my next torpedos and scored another 2 kills. I don`t know why most of the opponent team was in their base. I didn`t fire my guns in that battle, only torping. Too bad i started video capturing much later. Alabama is still on my wishlist. Chaba... well... short before i finally researched her, she got nerfed. Less torpedo range, less gun range. But still going strong until the german secondary BB`s entered the game. Hard times for Chaba! Firing at 1 BB or a DD, i often got into the secondary range of an unspotted german BB behind an island and the secondaries hit me, shooting over that island. Divisions with 2 or 3 Chabas were fun, but those secondary builds stopped it. Having 4 or 5 secondary BB`s in the opponent teams all time was annoying. But she started to be a very good backup for stealthy torp DD`s like Shima or Gearing, if the opponent DD was spotted, he got some hell from my Chaba. Then i decided to get the legendary upgrade, and sometimes it`s fun to get a hot ride with her. Still playing her with heal, the only good option for this gunboat. Yamato was my first tier 10 BB, going strong with the legendary upgrade. But the HE spammers with silly fire chances stopped me winning battles with her, i had to stay more in the background and lost much impact on the battles, so my winrate with her dropped very much. I`m more the player who loves mid-range fights, but the island-hugging HE-spammers were there, too. It`s hard to miss Yamato, so constant 2 or 3 fires were normal and with that sluggish beast it`s nearly impossible to get away before burned down. This was the time where i decided to play CV`s much more to hunt down those cowards and radar cruisers, and it was mostly successful. My all-time favourite BB`s are Fuso and Nagato. Favourite cruisers: tier 7 Belfast in a 3-player division, Atago Favourite DD`s: Minekaze, later Kamikaze R as soon as i got her, Isjaslaw. Favourite CV: Ryujo, Hornet. Favourite submarine: U-69, U-190. Yes, i love mid-tier much more than high-tier, tier 10 became the new tier 1. Beginners and Noobs with big mouths but small or no skill with purchased ships or accounts ruined high-tier gameplay too much to have that much fun. The sweetspot with better players is now between tier 5 and 7.
I have Atago, Alabama, Kidd, and Yamato. Alabama was the headliner "Mystery Ship" for tier 8 during the WG "Summer Sale" several years ago. You chose a ship you wanted and paid slightly more than retail... BUT, WG threw in two (count 'em) "Mystery Ships" of tier 8 in crates. I got Alabama, Lenin, and Prinz Eugen for barely more than the cost of Alabama. Helluva Deal!!!
T-5 Italian BB the Guilo Cesaro (sp)! My entire clan is jealous, I'm the only one with her. Got her in a drop box years ago. I just love it, and they haven't nerfed her to death! My person record in my Kidd is 56 planes! Definitely built as an AA destroyer.
Atago is really a very good ship...I just got it an hour ago with the Black Friday event, and boy oh boy, straight away first two games with it had a couple of ranked battles ending up in top tier base xp wins!
Mb, too strong is not a term that ever would have been used with the original kitakami. Ultimate team killer with those torps maybe, but definitely not too strong.
the USS Kidd is still one of the DD in tier 8 that i prefer to anyother since its so easy to use although only having 1 set of torpedo , its so amazing to play with it and it also helps to play DD more better for eg: using torpedo at the best possible point, capping and spotting enemy DD, knowing when to engage and disengage from a gun fight and so on.
I got the Yamato from the Inactivity code where you got either the Yamato or Bismarck, depending on If you have Tier VI or not. Its super fun. Not giving a shit about Armor feels so good, coming from german BBs.
I love tier 5, its lots of fun. And my slow as shit Oklahoma is so much fun in it, lol. The Gulio Sesare is a close second. Before I grinded the Oklahoma it was my favorite.
Kitakami wasn't removed because it was too strong, it was removed because it was a POS that next to nobody could do well in. Even with all of its torps, they only had a 10km range, and if you were close enough to actually use them properly, more often than not you would be spotted and nuked out of existence. Couple that with its abysmal AA suite (You know, when AA actually mattered), it was a fan favorite for CV's to pick on. It was just not worth the money whatsoever, and I think WG knew that.
The Ohio. It has been in the game quite a while now and it is still pretty much the #1 recommended RB ship. I got it in WoW Blitz a few years back and now I’m finally close to getting it on the PC as well. Very excited.
@@Littlewing1977 I mean, maybe not, but it’s at least 5 years old right? That’s greater than half the game’s age? Unless I’m mistaken it is also the oldest RB ship or close to it.
Nice video! Although i do have a question: If you were to choose between playing Yamato or playing Montana, who would you pick overall and why? Seeing as you suggested these two in video, and i actually aquired my Yamato recently, I'm trying to get a second opinion.
I think they just are very different, Monty has extreme alpha, is with that very strong even against angled ships and it is very tanky. A very common choice in cb wich propably says a lot about it in competetive. In randoms its also a very good choice. Yami just has overmatch and good range so very strong in randoms meta good choice aswell.
The Atago, for me seems to be armed and plays like the prototype. (for those historical people, like me) While not a fan of ahistorical camos I like the Atago's Tropical camo. The guns, like the IJN 203s in general, are accurate and rewarding of good aim. I do not have a Kidd, but I have heard in Randoms it plays more for support. The Yamato, you forgot to mention the torpedo mitigation protection, as demonstrated at the end of the clip.
@@frosty3693 they are very different, bc black at t9 has far stronger dpm competition and has no heal so in open waters it is quite a bit weaker than kidd and that at t9, it just has the radar smoke combo which makes it very strong meaning how you play it is very different on same hull, guns, role. And Black beeing coal anf kidf beeing dubs they dont compete in the buy section.
Remember WeGreedy and the crying playerbase resulting in : whaa whaa smoke and HE is toxic whaa whaa WeGreedy you must ban this combination whaaa whaa WeGreedy: sure sure, players know best! Then WeGreedy: hey pssst, have you heard of our glorious Smolensk?
my top 5 are Atago (beast for all the reasons you said) Wichita (i open water with double rudder shift) Munchen (great conceal, speed, maneuverability and skinny) Kidd (beast for all the reasons you said) z-35 (love hydro/gun dds, it was great before the buff about a year or so ago but now its even better) i very much enjoy playing yammy...but my battle impact is avg and i have a 40% win rate so im not sure i know how to play it right :P
I love the comment about Alabama being a middle finger to hybrid ships...weak planes usually do not have a heal.... Hilderbrand enters the chat. Nice Wargaming... Nice...
Funnier even is that many people including me have not one but multiple Atago's in port. Not to mention multiple Myoko's, Kongo's and perhaps even two Yamato's.
I got Kidd in a exchangeevent. I dont actually know anymore which ship i traded in for it i think it was the groningen, bc kita is just far better. Anyway for Kidd it is absoluetely one of THE best dds ever. It is the best credit printer ever with t8 economy beeing one of the best, almost always uptiered -> chance for 40% income bonus for dmg dealt. It is the best cap contester of t8 it has great smoke, good detect, some of the best guns (place 8 in t8 dpm) and the heal is just a gamechanger, no t8 dd has more hp than a kidd after all heals. It is absolutely crazy how much hp you have effectivly when using all heals and with those not best but still very good guns you win most caps. I have 80% wr with it and 54% in general (randoms) which absolutely shows its strengh it is by far my best wr and average base xp ship, with that best creditfarmer of all.
While i love the khaba (over 1500 games in her) , i disagree that she has aged well. With all the previous nerfs to her (reduction in range, rudder shift etc.) she is far harder to play nowadays. My list would be 5- Clemson (original t4 seal clubber, still is) 4- Atago (still fun) 3- Warspite (it's the Warspite!) 2- Yamato (per vid) 1- Des Moines (in right hands, still one of if not best t10 cruiser)
I'm at the Izumo so far and still in the process of unlocking the Yamato. I already have the Shikishima and I like her a lot, Should I buy the Yammi anyways, this is a tough choice for me
Shikishima is more of a sidegrade compared to yama, i would say if you like shikishima, yama wont let u down. esp. with the legendary module installed^^
dont agree with 3 of em but ive started to realize that with this game its really all just personal preference you could be playing what is statwise the best ship in the game and if you dont like the playstyle it really doesnt matter theres other ships out there for you
May have to scrape off the barnacles and bring out my NC, if her accuracy is better than the BAMA. I personally have had really good accuracy and dispersion with my ALABAMA. I just don't like the NCs anemic torp damage reduction. And the ATAGO is one of my 'go to' ships to play; like now in the T8 Clan Battles. And your comment on RNG, RNG looks at me most of the time and laughs in my face. BTW, I have binged a few BATTLESHIP YAMATO videos, and you are mispronouncing the Yammies' name. From the Japanese versions, with and without English dubs, they pronounce the name like 2 syllables with the stress on the last TO syllable.
@@snorkman2 but how would you get back into a match with the same campy BBs after going back to port to swap to Shima? I'm confused. It's always different players in the next round.
The reason why Atago is so good still is because how WeeGee design this ship to be. Her superstructure are very lightly armored. Means Bb shells can’t do full pen when she is at range. Her deck is 41mm which is the best among of all CAs out there. Her profile was very low. Lower than Petro. Her guns hits hard and accurate. Forward Torpedoes launcher. IJN DD level speed and a Heal for a final touch. Despite that Atago doesn’t even need a heal to be good. But because how bad players are so and cry about it. So WeeGee decided to add it. The only issue Atago will have is how easily she breaks down when someone breathe at it. It isn’t as bad as Hipper but her guns were so horrible at durability to the point it will combust everytime it get hit. Oh and her rudder is easily breaks down too. But Rudder issue are very easily fix. Just use upgrades and use Last Stand and you’re good to go. All of this combine making Atago literally pretty much the best Tier 8 Cruiser you can have. It isn’t hard to citadel this thing at closer ranges but at distance you need luck to hit her.
Atago, Prince Eugen, Rochester, and Belfast 43 are all great ships! Belfast 43 is the most fun because you can play aggressively close range at any tier. Atago is great because it's threat to all surface type ships. Rochester can lock down no fly zones with smoke and good AA and punish close range with great AP. Prince Eugen for the patient players that like to take the opposition into the final rounds and drown them.
@@jamesboudreau2121 Washington? There is no Washington class battleships. The USS Washington was a North Carolina class battleship, they had a different armor scheme than the South Dakota class
@@sealordmountbatten true, the South Dakota, Washington, North Carolina, Alabama, and Massachusetts all had basically the same armament. But in game, Massachusetts is a secondary beast, Alabama is a no fly zone, and North Carolina is a mid range sniper. How can they all be so different.
Sadly Monty hasn’t aged well at all. Whenever I see it I honestly just look at it as free damage farm. I’m not even afraid to be full broadside at it cause the shells are worst in the game for velocity and by the time they do reach you more than 15km away they don’t pen anything. RIP Monty.
@@tijger5353 Should have gotten a free ring via mail for the 9th anniversary in Azur Lane. If not they do gift some once or twice a year. Also you get an Oath skin for some ships like Atago or finally Bismarck.🎉
Ive never understood why people glaze the Atago. Not a bad ship, but a lot of better cruisers at that tier. Mainz is better, Cleveland is better, Baltimore is better and the so is the Mogami and Bayard. Of course, this is all relative. The hydro/heal/Conceal is great however and makes it a good ship, just not a hands down best in tier.
Kita pullen because she was 'to strong' what have you been smoking lol She got pulled because we still had friendly fire, and any match with them ended with half the team sunk by the 'friendly' Kitakami player. She never was 'strong' lol she melted if spotted with her kuma hull ffs. She disrupted gameplay that is why she was puled. Two of them on a team on one flank meant a constant barage of torps coming your way, now imagine more then two... it was a torpedo soup. Servers didn't like it either.
@@tijger5353 CV main issue is their spotting, not their damage. And Kita torps did actual damage CV torps do not. CV torps can not surprise you either, since you will see the planes they are getting launched from. No one likes CV's,, but at least come up with a better comparison ;) Many people who had the original one actually complained she was weak, due to them not being able to land torps before their kuma hulls got sent to the shadow realm. It took a decent player to not suck.
Over the last 3 updates on the NA and EU servers Yamato is the 3rd most played T10 overall, on Asia she is THEE most played T10 ship. What are you on about that no one plays her? She's one of the most played ships in the entire game. As in her position doesn't change even if you include every other ship in the game. (Shiptool . st, server statistics)
In my experience, Atago may be a good ship, but man are her players not. Just yesterday one decided to go full broadside to me in my Pommern. The fact that I missed is irrelevant.
Mate your comparing a T8 Japanese heavy cruiser to a T9 American battlecruiser/armored cruiser. Everyone’s gonna prefer Alaska. However she’s not for sell
I mean I'm right there with you, except I much prefer Mogami. 15 155mm guns, with a 6 second faster reload. Sure no heal, but lets be fair, a T8 cruiser that "needs" a heal, is already dead.
The only one I hard disagree with is Alabama. NC, the tech line ship is much better, not to even mention Massa. Maybe not the worst t8 bb, but she is near the bottom.
Atago and Trash? KEK Like SLM said you need to know how to play her. If done right you annoy so many players just with the pure existence in a match that they will most likly throw all their shells at you while, hopefully, your team shoots downthe enemy. Dont even get me started with clan battles with her dueling single handed a BB
I personally can't warm up to the Kidd. The flight time of the shells is 2 buisness days and they do hardly anything against BBs, at least when I use them.
That’s cause the Kidd is meant to gunboat bully the other DDs and some cruisers. I’ve got like 60-70 games with it now and it’s quite effective. Just use your rack of torps to zone instead of trying to use them to kill and you’ll get more hits zoning than trying to hit a single ship that’s by itself. The torps are slow as shit. As far as the main batteries yes they have long flight time but it’s really easy to master. An average game for me is like 40 hits or so.
@@BL-yj2wp I only have Wichita and Kidd for premium ships. It’s also an American premium ship. I plan on collecting any I get even if I won’t use them long term. Better than nothing that’s for sure. I would have 4 but I accidentally sold a Japanese premium cruiser and I sold my Schornberg I didn’t like it.
Lol you dont add up the percentages with all the shells. "technically 170% chance of fire" that makes no sense. You get 10 shells that each have a 17% chance.
He didn't use the "complement rule" that we learned in school. Each shell has a 17% chance of starting a fire, meaning each shell has an 83% chance not to start a fire (100% - 17% = 83%). For 10 shells, the chance that none of them start a fire is the product of the probabilities of each shell not starting a fire. This means there’s about a 16.65% chance that none of the shells will start a fire. To find the probability of at least one fire being started, subtract that from 1. So, there’s about an 83.35% chance that a fire will be started from the salvo of 10 HE shells with a 17% fire chance per shell. This approach shows how probabilities work when multiple independent events are involved.
Kitakami wasn't removed because it was too strong. No it was because it had more Teammate kills than enemies, as friendly fire was still possible back then and 40 20km torpedos that were mostly launched from 2nd or even 3rd row does that.
This ^
It had 10km torps. Not 20km
Very rare that you see it still even after introduced again recently for short time.
torpedo DD do the job better and tend to find that kitakami once spotted gets hammered.
It didn't have 20km torps, it had 10km torps, and it performed absolutely miserably in battles, even at T8. It was really really bad as a ship, and I reckon that this, along with its TK potential, is the reason why it was removed. It was just not worth the money.
I was not too happy with WG when they nerfed the Texas AA. That was bull.
Tbh i want atago get an spotter plane option rather than having that almost useless fighter plane
@@meakurosakii9060 true
Yes, but I feel like that would make her too overpowered in clan battles
It could certainly use the range, T10 battles are quite rough on big maps with 15.8km.
That would be nice but if WG did that they would probably nerf her as well.
@@broccanmacronain457
Going by average game results, Atago is among the weakest T8 cruisers with 50.1% WR and 38.9k average damage. Obviously it isn‘t really, but how well a ship can do doesn’t matter in terms of balancing, it‘s about how the average potato does with it.
Prolly my favorite premium is my 750k free xp Missouri. Still gets an extra baked in credit earning ( even though i do think weegee nerfed it behind the scenes) and that's the main point of a premium after all.
I agree, penetration and accuracy seems a bit weak.
Nice list, dear Sea Lord. Atago can be played like a torp DD, i remember a battle when i did this stuff with her. The opponent base was full of ships, cruiser and BB, so i used the good concealment and sent all torps into that base. As they arrived, chaos broke out, ships ramming each other and i scored a triple kill. One was an unspotted DD, the others a BB and a cruiser. My whole team laughed hard like i did, then i waited for my next torpedos and scored another 2 kills. I don`t know why most of the opponent team was in their base. I didn`t fire my guns in that battle, only torping. Too bad i started video capturing much later.
Alabama is still on my wishlist.
Chaba... well... short before i finally researched her, she got nerfed. Less torpedo range, less gun range. But still going strong until the german secondary BB`s entered the game. Hard times for Chaba! Firing at 1 BB or a DD, i often got into the secondary range of an unspotted german BB behind an island and the secondaries hit me, shooting over that island. Divisions with 2 or 3 Chabas were fun, but those secondary builds stopped it. Having 4 or 5 secondary BB`s in the opponent teams all time was annoying. But she started to be a very good backup for stealthy torp DD`s like Shima or Gearing, if the opponent DD was spotted, he got some hell from my Chaba. Then i decided to get the legendary upgrade, and sometimes it`s fun to get a hot ride with her. Still playing her with heal, the only good option for this gunboat.
Yamato was my first tier 10 BB, going strong with the legendary upgrade. But the HE spammers with silly fire chances stopped me winning battles with her, i had to stay more in the background and lost much impact on the battles, so my winrate with her dropped very much. I`m more the player who loves mid-range fights, but the island-hugging HE-spammers were there, too. It`s hard to miss Yamato, so constant 2 or 3 fires were normal and with that sluggish beast it`s nearly impossible to get away before burned down. This was the time where i decided to play CV`s much more to hunt down those cowards and radar cruisers, and it was mostly successful.
My all-time favourite BB`s are Fuso and Nagato.
Favourite cruisers: tier 7 Belfast in a 3-player division, Atago
Favourite DD`s: Minekaze, later Kamikaze R as soon as i got her, Isjaslaw.
Favourite CV: Ryujo, Hornet.
Favourite submarine: U-69, U-190.
Yes, i love mid-tier much more than high-tier, tier 10 became the new tier 1. Beginners and Noobs with big mouths but small or no skill with purchased ships or accounts ruined high-tier gameplay too much to have that much fun. The sweetspot with better players is now between tier 5 and 7.
My number one premium Hood is never going to dust in my port, sentimental value
I play all 402 ships I own. It's like playing history, except for some of the fantasy captains of course.
For real. "From out of the cold and foggy night came the British ship the Hood" will be written on my tombstone.
I have Atago, Alabama, Kidd, and Yamato. Alabama was the headliner "Mystery Ship" for tier 8 during the WG "Summer Sale" several years ago. You chose a ship you wanted and paid slightly more than retail... BUT, WG threw in two (count 'em) "Mystery Ships" of tier 8 in crates. I got Alabama, Lenin, and Prinz Eugen for barely more than the cost of Alabama. Helluva Deal!!!
T-5 Italian BB the Guilo Cesaro (sp)! My entire clan is jealous, I'm the only one with her. Got her in a drop box years ago. I just love it, and they haven't nerfed her to death!
My person record in my Kidd is 56 planes! Definitely built as an AA destroyer.
I just got the Wichita yesterday from a free Leyte gulf crate 😎
I got her free a long time ago from a WG event on the BB Texas. Got the code from Searaptor.
2:58 For all 10 shells hitting at a 17% fire chance, the total fire chance would be 84.48% (0.83^10)
FOr my first steel I bought Steel cammo for Yamato. First I regret it not buying a new ship but now I really enjoy Yama! ^.^
"It is nigh impossible to citadel a Yammy at long range" Me who got a double citadel on a Yammy in my Wisconsin at 18+ km 😂
Atago is really a very good ship...I just got it an hour ago with the Black Friday event, and boy oh boy, straight away first two games with it had a couple of ranked battles ending up in top tier base xp wins!
Mb, too strong is not a term that ever would have been used with the original kitakami. Ultimate team killer with those torps maybe, but definitely not too strong.
Missouri was the first high tier American premium battleship, not Alabama
the USS Kidd is still one of the DD in tier 8 that i prefer to anyother since its so easy to use although only having 1 set of torpedo , its so amazing to play with it and it also helps to play DD more better for eg: using torpedo at the best possible point, capping and spotting enemy DD, knowing when to engage and disengage from a gun fight and so on.
I just got atago from the leyte boxes, and its definitely better than i expected. Probably put 15 games into it over the weekend.
I got the Yamato from the Inactivity code where you got either the Yamato or Bismarck, depending on If you have Tier VI or not. Its super fun. Not giving a shit about Armor feels so good, coming from german BBs.
I love tier 5, its lots of fun. And my slow as shit Oklahoma is so much fun in it, lol. The Gulio Sesare is a close second. Before I grinded the Oklahoma it was my favorite.
Happy Thanksgiving from Canada.
@@jaquigreenlees hello
Happy useless holiday!!
Kitakami wasn't removed because it was too strong, it was removed because it was a POS that next to nobody could do well in. Even with all of its torps, they only had a 10km range, and if you were close enough to actually use them properly, more often than not you would be spotted and nuked out of existence. Couple that with its abysmal AA suite (You know, when AA actually mattered), it was a fan favorite for CV's to pick on. It was just not worth the money whatsoever, and I think WG knew that.
New title, Top 5 Tier 8 and up Ships That Aged Like Fine Wine.
No surprise no love to anything below T8.
Video, 5 out of 10.
Cool.....got all. But wasnt the Atlanta the first premium in game?
Edit: Ok, you said first t8.
When arrived the kutusow?
Look at me I am the cruiser now nice one slm
The Ohio. It has been in the game quite a while now and it is still pretty much the #1 recommended RB ship. I got it in WoW Blitz a few years back and now I’m finally close to getting it on the PC as well. Very excited.
Ohio is not old in terms of Warships being 9 years old
@@Littlewing1977 I mean, maybe not, but it’s at least 5 years old right? That’s greater than half the game’s age? Unless I’m mistaken it is also the oldest RB ship or close to it.
Nice video!
Although i do have a question:
If you were to choose between playing Yamato or playing Montana, who would you pick overall and why?
Seeing as you suggested these two in video, and i actually aquired my Yamato recently, I'm trying to get a second opinion.
I think they just are very different, Monty has extreme alpha, is with that very strong even against angled ships and it is very tanky. A very common choice in cb wich propably says a lot about it in competetive. In randoms its also a very good choice. Yami just has overmatch and good range so very strong in randoms meta good choice aswell.
The Atago, for me seems to be armed and plays like the prototype. (for those historical people, like me) While not a fan of ahistorical camos I like the Atago's Tropical camo. The guns, like the IJN 203s in general, are accurate and rewarding of good aim.
I do not have a Kidd, but I have heard in Randoms it plays more for support.
The Yamato, you forgot to mention the torpedo mitigation protection, as demonstrated at the end of the clip.
Kidd is an absolute cap contasting monster. It is by far my best ship in basexp average and wr.
@@philipreber3314 I decided to go with the USS Black.
@@frosty3693 they are very different, bc black at t9 has far stronger dpm competition and has no heal so in open waters it is quite a bit weaker than kidd and that at t9, it just has the radar smoke combo which makes it very strong meaning how you play it is very different on same hull, guns, role.
And Black beeing coal anf kidf beeing dubs they dont compete in the buy section.
@@philipreber3314 Good to know. I don't play US DDs much.(IJN & some French) When I got the Black, Kidd was a coal ship too.
i know Kutusov is not longer in the store .. but man this ship is a manace
Remember WeGreedy and the crying playerbase resulting in : whaa whaa smoke and HE is toxic whaa whaa WeGreedy you must ban this combination whaaa whaa
WeGreedy: sure sure, players know best!
Then WeGreedy: hey pssst, have you heard of our glorious Smolensk?
@@MarvinWestmaasNailed it.
I got it in an anniversary super container!
I've always had a soft spot for the Atlanta.
my top 5 are
Atago (beast for all the reasons you said)
Wichita (i open water with double rudder shift)
Munchen (great conceal, speed, maneuverability and skinny)
Kidd (beast for all the reasons you said)
z-35 (love hydro/gun dds, it was great before the buff about a year or so ago but now its even better)
i very much enjoy playing yammy...but my battle impact is avg and i have a 40% win rate so im not sure i know how to play it right :P
I love the comment about Alabama being a middle finger to hybrid ships...weak planes usually do not have a heal.... Hilderbrand enters the chat. Nice Wargaming... Nice...
Funny that i got Atago from a Santa container haha
Funnier even is that many people including me have not one but multiple Atago's in port. Not to mention multiple Myoko's, Kongo's and perhaps even two Yamato's.
Atlanta my beloved, all the way from Update 0.2.3.
Looking for my first premium ship i love battleships so im thinking about getting Tirpitz any opinions?
Yamoto got the cheek free to citadel design nad everyone been used to it 😂
Just avoid get into close quarter range
You should do a really good how to series like IChaseGaming did. There is a huge need for an updated long series of how to play better!
I'm surprised the Iowa didn't make it.
UU Kharba is one of my go to ships when i feel like irritating people
Ty God i was manage to get Takao when they have put the event for first time never regret to get it copy pasta Atago!
I got Kidd in a exchangeevent. I dont actually know anymore which ship i traded in for it i think it was the groningen, bc kita is just far better.
Anyway for Kidd it is absoluetely one of THE best dds ever. It is the best credit printer ever with t8 economy beeing one of the best, almost always uptiered -> chance for 40% income bonus for dmg dealt.
It is the best cap contester of t8 it has great smoke, good detect, some of the best guns (place 8 in t8 dpm) and the heal is just a gamechanger, no t8 dd has more hp than a kidd after all heals. It is absolutely crazy how much hp you have effectivly when using all heals and with those not best but still very good guns you win most caps.
I have 80% wr with it and 54% in general (randoms) which absolutely shows its strengh it is by far my best wr and average base xp ship, with that best creditfarmer of all.
I remember when the Atago didn't have a heal.
Atago and Mogami difference, other than heal and torp angle?
Maybe next is top 5 coal ships?
I picked up Pommern for coal. Didn't particularly enjoy it. So i exchanged it for Kidd for 0 doubloons. I'd say it's not a bad deal.
Crazy, Pommy prints credits. Even if you loathe German BBs its still a credit printer. Glad you are liking your kidd tho:D
@@Uthandol Oh, i'm not saying that Pommern is bad at all. She just wasn't my cup of tea.
While i love the khaba (over 1500 games in her) , i disagree that she has aged well. With all the previous nerfs to her (reduction in range, rudder shift etc.) she is far harder to play nowadays. My list would be
5- Clemson (original t4 seal clubber, still is)
4- Atago (still fun)
3- Warspite (it's the Warspite!)
2- Yamato (per vid)
1- Des Moines (in right hands, still one of if not best t10 cruiser)
I'm at the Izumo so far and still in the process of unlocking the Yamato. I already have the Shikishima and I like her a lot, Should I buy the Yammi anyways, this is a tough choice for me
Shikishima is more of a sidegrade compared to yama, i would say if you like shikishima, yama wont let u down. esp. with the legendary module installed^^
Look at me. I am the cruiser now
dont agree with 3 of em but ive started to realize that with this game its really all just personal preference you could be playing what is statwise the best ship in the game and if you dont like the playstyle it really doesnt matter theres other ships out there for you
May have to scrape off the barnacles and bring out my NC, if her accuracy is better than the BAMA. I personally have had really good accuracy and dispersion with my ALABAMA. I just don't like the NCs anemic torp damage reduction.
And the ATAGO is one of my 'go to' ships to play; like now in the T8 Clan Battles.
And your comment on RNG, RNG looks at me most of the time and laughs in my face.
BTW, I have binged a few BATTLESHIP YAMATO videos, and you are mispronouncing the Yammies' name. From the Japanese versions, with and without English dubs, they pronounce the name like 2 syllables with the stress on the last TO syllable.
Khaba is fun to zip around the map, but I feel it lack DPM to have impact on the game.
Its an Otp ship imo
Shimakaze!
I play short range cruisers, when BBs get too campy and just hide and snipe pot shots at me. I jump into Shimakaze for some revenge.
@@snorkman2 but how would you get back into a match with the same campy BBs after going back to port to swap to Shima? I'm confused. It's always different players in the next round.
The reason why Atago is so good still is because how WeeGee design this ship to be.
Her superstructure are very lightly armored. Means Bb shells can’t do full pen when she is at range. Her deck is 41mm which is the best among of all CAs out there. Her profile was very low. Lower than Petro. Her guns hits hard and accurate. Forward Torpedoes launcher. IJN DD level speed and a Heal for a final touch. Despite that Atago doesn’t even need a heal to be good. But because how bad players are so and cry about it. So WeeGee decided to add it. The only issue Atago will have is how easily she breaks down when someone breathe at it. It isn’t as bad as Hipper but her guns were so horrible at durability to the point it will combust everytime it get hit. Oh and her rudder is easily breaks down too. But Rudder issue are very easily fix. Just use upgrades and use Last Stand and you’re good to go.
All of this combine making Atago literally pretty much the best Tier 8 Cruiser you can have. It isn’t hard to citadel this thing at closer ranges but at distance you need luck to hit her.
What is with this "WeeGee" business? It takes longer to type "WeeGee" than "WG" and it doesn't make you cool. LOL
@@AGrenade4U It is a mocking name on WG as a whole. Because it isn’t the same it once was. Heck, WG has many names now. Like WeGreed
Atago is hands down the best T8 premium ship in the game.
Atago, Prince Eugen, Rochester, and Belfast 43 are all great ships!
Belfast 43 is the most fun because you can play aggressively close range at any tier.
Atago is great because it's threat to all surface type ships.
Rochester can lock down no fly zones with smoke and good AA and punish close range with great AP.
Prince Eugen for the patient players that like to take the opposition into the final rounds and drown them.
I have a question.
Why are the Washington and North Dakota classes all so different in game? They are basically the same, armor, firepower, and speed.
@@jamesboudreau2121 Washington? There is no Washington class battleships. The USS Washington was a North Carolina class battleship, they had a different armor scheme than the South Dakota class
@@sealordmountbatten true, the South Dakota, Washington, North Carolina, Alabama, and Massachusetts all had basically the same armament. But in game, Massachusetts is a secondary beast, Alabama is a no fly zone, and North Carolina is a mid range sniper. How can they all be so different.
@@jamesboudreau2121 The Devs try to give each ship its own identity in order to make them more interesting
i still wish i had the option to trade back my OG atago for the kitakami i originally purchased, given shes back in the game now.
WG would just delete it from your port again
Lo yang is one of my fav dds. Ok the guns kinda sucks. But the short range torps and hydro is so much fun. Risky but rewarding.
How about Belfast? Fujin?
So even Des Moines got powercreeped?
Personally I think while Des Moines is still fairly unique, in this era of overmatch, it doesn't really perform that well anymore.
Day 2: make a guide to french BBs
Sadly Monty hasn’t aged well at all. Whenever I see it I honestly just look at it as free damage farm. I’m not even afraid to be full broadside at it cause the shells are worst in the game for velocity and by the time they do reach you more than 15km away they don’t pen anything. RIP Monty.
ATAGO 2ND BEST WAIFU
even i had her oath her in azur lane
@@IsagiYoichi111 I dont wanna spend the gems for a ring
@@tijger5353 Should have gotten a free ring via mail for the 9th anniversary in Azur Lane. If not they do gift some once or twice a year. Also you get an Oath skin for some ships like Atago or finally Bismarck.🎉
Wrong game bro. But understandable
@@tijger5353they sometimes give rings for free, I have 3 oathed girls this way
Hello good people of you tube
Ive never understood why people glaze the Atago. Not a bad ship, but a lot of better cruisers at that tier. Mainz is better, Cleveland is better, Baltimore is better and the so is the Mogami and Bayard. Of course, this is all relative. The hydro/heal/Conceal is great however and makes it a good ship, just not a hands down best in tier.
alabama or massachussetts?
alabama is easier to spell though
And where the hell is Cossack?
Hey where is Monty?😢
She was in the last version of this video
@@sealordmountbatten Oh, in that case forget what i said😂
Kita pullen because she was 'to strong' what have you been smoking lol
She got pulled because we still had friendly fire, and any match with them ended with half the team sunk by the 'friendly' Kitakami player.
She never was 'strong' lol she melted if spotted with her kuma hull ffs. She disrupted gameplay that is why she was puled. Two of them on a team on one flank meant a constant barage of torps coming your way, now imagine more then two... it was a torpedo soup. Servers didn't like it either.
@@MarvinWestmaas so basicly what cv's do
@@tijger5353 CV main issue is their spotting, not their damage.
And Kita torps did actual damage CV torps do not. CV torps can not surprise you either, since you will see the planes they are getting launched from.
No one likes CV's,, but at least come up with a better comparison ;)
Many people who had the original one actually complained she was weak, due to them not being able to land torps before their kuma hulls got sent to the shadow realm. It took a decent player to not suck.
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the Yamato? lol everybody has her and nobody sails her, WTF does that say about her?
Over the last 3 updates on the NA and EU servers Yamato is the 3rd most played T10 overall, on Asia she is THEE most played T10 ship. What are you on about that no one plays her? She's one of the most played ships in the entire game. As in her position doesn't change even if you include every other ship in the game. (Shiptool . st, server statistics)
In my experience, Atago may be a good ship, but man are her players not. Just yesterday one decided to go full broadside to me in my Pommern. The fact that I missed is irrelevant.
Stop saying good things about the Atago. I like mine and I do not want WG to notice and nerf her.
You made this whole thing and you didn’t include the Des Moines… also you said it yourself the kleber is better then the Khaba…
But Khaba has aged well thanks to her getting the improved heal
No Salem? : (
I don't agree with the Atago. She eats cits and is made of Japanese explodium and her reload is meh. I prefer the Alaska.
Mate your comparing a T8 Japanese heavy cruiser to a T9 American battlecruiser/armored cruiser. Everyone’s gonna prefer Alaska. However she’s not for sell
@@AshCatTrainz You're right
I mean I'm right there with you, except I much prefer Mogami. 15 155mm guns, with a 6 second faster reload. Sure no heal, but lets be fair, a T8 cruiser that "needs" a heal, is already dead.
@@AshCatTrainz "you're"
Kidd, maybe yes I'd agree with and possibly Atago. But the rest? SLM, you don't know what you're talking about.
The only one I hard disagree with is Alabama. NC, the tech line ship is much better, not to even mention Massa. Maybe not the worst t8 bb, but she is near the bottom.
Whos here is from the time of anime waifu takao event??
not Atago. Its total trash and always was
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Atago and Trash? KEK
Like SLM said you need to know how to play her. If done right you annoy so many players just with the pure existence in a match that they will most likly throw all their shells at you while, hopefully, your team shoots downthe enemy. Dont even get me started with clan battles with her dueling single handed a BB
@@Bender76048k
It‘s one of the most misplayed ships in the game.
I personally can't warm up to the Kidd. The flight time of the shells is 2 buisness days and they do hardly anything against BBs, at least when I use them.
That’s cause the Kidd is meant to gunboat bully the other DDs and some cruisers. I’ve got like 60-70 games with it now and it’s quite effective. Just use your rack of torps to zone instead of trying to use them to kill and you’ll get more hits zoning than trying to hit a single ship that’s by itself. The torps are slow as shit. As far as the main batteries yes they have long flight time but it’s really easy to master. An average game for me is like 40 hits or so.
The only time as Kidd you should be attacking bbs is if their DDs are dead and you have backup close by.
And when that scenario is fulfilled, aim for the BB super structure with your HE and you’ll get 1100-1700 chunks if you are accurate
It‘s a decent ship, but quite pointless when Cossack exists.
@@BL-yj2wp I only have Wichita and Kidd for premium ships. It’s also an American premium ship. I plan on collecting any I get even if I won’t use them long term. Better than nothing that’s for sure. I would have 4 but I accidentally sold a Japanese premium cruiser and I sold my Schornberg I didn’t like it.
Lol you dont add up the percentages with all the shells. "technically 170% chance of fire" that makes no sense. You get 10 shells that each have a 17% chance.
He didn't use the "complement rule" that we learned in school. Each shell has a 17% chance of starting a fire, meaning each shell has an 83% chance not to start a fire (100% - 17% = 83%). For 10 shells, the chance that none of them start a fire is the product of the probabilities of each shell not starting a fire.
This means there’s about a 16.65% chance that none of the shells will start a fire. To find the probability of at least one fire being started, subtract that from 1. So, there’s about an 83.35% chance that a fire will be started from the salvo of 10 HE shells with a 17% fire chance per shell. This approach shows how probabilities work when multiple independent events are involved.