Great video! In a comment from a couple months ago there was a reply by yourself about seeing stuffed pheasant and grouse. For me, depending on the beauty and quaility of the animal, I might stuff the animal, while eating the meat.
Lead is a much more effective choice over steel. Steel does fly faster but doesn't have the punch of lead. Waterfowl hunters use steel not lead for the sole reason that it's required by law.
For sure, and it's a personal choice for hunting upland. I know lots of upland hunters that choose to use steel because they can get some additional effective range on a fast flying bird. I personally only use 2 3/4" shells with steel shot for upland as anything else would be overkill and too destructive for the meat (if you plan on eating it). Thanks for the feedback!
Awesome vid! I'm hoping my decker terrier will be able to hunt upland this upcoming season. You got any tips for a pup that wont out and that lunges for the dummy?
Bruh nobody is using .22 birdshot to hunt upland birds lmao.. Steel is not superior to lead.. I really hope nobody who is new to upland hunting listens to this video
Awesome vid! Ive just bought a decker terrier/large rat terrier. I really wanna try using him for some upland but since hes a terrier I'm not sure if he'll be any good at it. Have you guys used terriers for upland?
Hi Eric, thanks for the feedback! No, I have never used terriers for upland, but that's mostly because I have never had any terriers to work with. They are definitely considered an excellent hunting breed so I wouldn't worry too much about that. If you take the time to train your pup you'll both have a great time come next hunting season!
@@FreeWhiteNorth thanks, I'm planning to hunt upland this next year and itll be my first. I'm considering taking my pup to a professional to get the most out of him.
Hi seoulkidd1, No I usually don't. What I'll most often do is field dress them (i.e. harvest the breast) with the 'ole pull on the feet while stepping on the wings method. I've thought about doing it but the idea of meat contamination scares me. I'll probably be brave enough to try it next year
Yes, we have wild Pheasants this far north. They typically flourish in the southern-most part of the province where there is still lots of good habitat for them, mostly around the Brooks and Taber areas, as well as Lethbridge.
ImageLoX thanks! Our little pup is a Cockapoo named Hattie! I was in the same boat, so had to get a hypoallergenic breed. She’s such and awesome dog, and she’s two hunting breeds. Cocker Spaniels are excellent nose dogs and flushers, and Poodles (standards mostly) have been used as water retrievers all over the world. Basically anything mixed with a Poodle will give you a great natural hunting dog and hypoallergenic. Ours is only 14lbs but we were told that she’d be closer to 25lbs. Most Cockapoos are around that size, which is a great size for hunting. She loves to find birds though!!
This video is a reflection of your preference rather than what is "best". I have to respect your intent but sadly, there is VERY little you got right. Let's start at the beginning. You are comparing firearms NOT "weapons". Weapons are used to attack or defend in combat/war. An upland shotgun is typically a SxS or O/U while a waterfowler is typically a semi and for good reasons but I'm trying to stay on the subject. NOTHING 3" is better regardless of gauge, for upland hunting. It conveys either elemental lack of physics/technical understanding or someone that thinks 3" mags will immediately transform them into better shots. Here is a fact: If you can't hit a cow in the asterisk with a snow shovel, it doesn't matter if you use a 10 gauge with 3 1/2" shells. Ask yourself this: How many pellets does it take to drop a pheasant (you spoke of pheasants)? 4-5 max! How many pellets are in a 2 & 3/4" 28 gauge with #6 shot? Answer: roughly 225! You need to put those pellets on the target because you have MORE than enough effective load. If you are going to shoot anything 3", I suggest you go to the next larger gauge and use a FAR more effective 2 3/4" round. Your wife happens to have the superior upland shotgun - just the wrong loads AND she likely flinches. I'm guessing she isn't that great of a shot because of it. ...not her fault. What you have there is NOT an upland bird dog. I'm not saying you CAN'T hunt with that dog. I'm saying you don't need to scent train a "bird dog". They are excited about bird scent out-of-the-box. Steel is NOT better than lead shot. Yes, it is faster because it HAS to be to remotely compete with the killing power/density of lead. By-the-way, I don't eat the lead from my upland birds so it's not about health. If anything, you might accidently bite into a lead pellet which you can remove. If you accidentally bite into a steel pellet, it's probably a visit to your dentist next day! Here is a key consideration of steel vs lead. I have seen FAR more birds crippled/lost from steel than lead. Where do we measure this value? I've seen both waterfowl and doves hit with steel - feathers everywhere - and yet they manage to fly off only to die somewhere else!! It's unethical! Where are those stats? The reason tungsten and bismuth exist is in an effort to replicate the density and therefore downfield effectiveness of LEAD...not steel. As far as I'm concerned, semis should not be allowed as an upland gun, at all. That third shot more-often-than-not contributes to cripples or shots you should never have taken in the first place. Yet again, more cripples! OR, I have witnessed folk shoot 2 shots at one bird, drop it and then shoot that third shot at another and wing it. Then, they can't find either bird because they can't recall exactly where the first OR second bird fell! Again....unethical in the least! Sadly, some hunters with 12 gauge semis think that if they throw enough lead, something has to fall. You know the result....more cripples! As for upland clothing, those jeans with the cordura or nylon-based facing are the absolute WORSE thing you can wear upland hunting where there are thorns, burrs etc. In fact, you're better wearing plain jeans. The cordura weave will actually entrap or snag thorns and then the very tips of these thorns break off in the nylon weave! At the end of the day, you have this red irritation on your skin where the thorn tip scraped your skin! Good luck finding it!! And...they are anything BUT water-repellent! The best product on the market is a waxed cotton over-pant made by Barbour or Outback. They aren't 100% thorn proof or waterproof but they are darn near that. That vest your wearing is...cute but not functional. Trying to insert a bird the size of a pheasant in that vest will require you to be double-jointed. There are strapped vests out there that provide you with front loading access for your game birds AND they offer more safety in that they have more blaze orange than that vest. I believe your heart's in the right place but the content in this video is very poor. I only bring this to light because it might have novices believing what you have offered and that's not fair to them.
Recommending a double, don't actually have a hunting dog, and shooting pen raised birds....strike 1, strike 2, strike 3 and you're out......you have no idea what a good gun dog is, or training one....
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One of the best intro the pheasant hunting videos I've seen, thank you!
Great video! In a comment from a couple months ago there was a reply by yourself about seeing stuffed pheasant and grouse. For me, depending on the beauty and quaility of the animal, I might stuff the animal, while eating the meat.
Great video and very informative. Thanks for making it!
We don't use steel unless we absolutely have to. Lead, bismuth, or tungsten are all far better for hunting.
Illegal all throughout Minnesota…so no
Lead is a much more effective choice over steel. Steel does fly faster but doesn't have the punch of lead. Waterfowl hunters use steel not lead for the sole reason that it's required by law.
For sure, and it's a personal choice for hunting upland. I know lots of upland hunters that choose to use steel because they can get some additional effective range on a fast flying bird. I personally only use 2 3/4" shells with steel shot for upland as anything else would be overkill and too destructive for the meat (if you plan on eating it). Thanks for the feedback!
Joseph Ely and it’s toxic to the wildlife and water.
@Ballistic Bob then go a head and eat lead paintchips and use some lead pipes for your water faucets dipshit.
Doesn't make sense to me....... Almost 80% of fishing weights are lead I am guessing
Heavy shot or hevi metal is good, too. I've just been using steel, but I found it doesn't really work unless you're like 10 meters and in.
Great video. Thanks for sharing.
Awesome vid! I'm hoping my decker terrier will be able to hunt upland this upcoming season. You got any tips for a pup that wont out and that lunges for the dummy?
Fantastic talk. Thanks brotha
Started talking about release days and I got confused....is the area he's in like fishing a stocked pond?
thank you
Do hunting dogs need hearing protection?
idk if they make dog ear protection but if they do it'd be sick, love the pfp btw c:
@@JustAWorms Thank you!
Bruh nobody is using .22 birdshot to hunt upland birds lmao.. Steel is not superior to lead.. I really hope nobody who is new to upland hunting listens to this video
Lol i thought he was joking. I quit hunting geese when they switched to steel. Couldnt justify injuring birds.
What breeds the dog?
Is it safe to use plated lead shot on game you plan to eat?
Victoria yes
Awesome vid! Ive just bought a decker terrier/large rat terrier. I really wanna try using him for some upland but since hes a terrier I'm not sure if he'll be any good at it. Have you guys used terriers for upland?
Hi Eric, thanks for the feedback! No, I have never used terriers for upland, but that's mostly because I have never had any terriers to work with. They are definitely considered an excellent hunting breed so I wouldn't worry too much about that. If you take the time to train your pup you'll both have a great time come next hunting season!
@@FreeWhiteNorth thanks, I'm planning to hunt upland this next year and itll be my first. I'm considering taking my pup to a professional to get the most out of him.
Do you age your pheasant
Hi seoulkidd1, No I usually don't. What I'll most often do is field dress them (i.e. harvest the breast) with the 'ole pull on the feet while stepping on the wings method. I've thought about doing it but the idea of meat contamination scares me. I'll probably be brave enough to try it next year
Are there lots of wild pheasants that far north, or are they all bred and released at those sites?
Yes, we have wild Pheasants this far north. They typically flourish in the southern-most part of the province where there is still lots of good habitat for them, mostly around the Brooks and Taber areas, as well as Lethbridge.
Great video! What breed of dog is that? I’m looking at several but my wife is very allergic so my options are limited. Thanks!
ImageLoX thanks! Our little pup is a Cockapoo named Hattie! I was in the same boat, so had to get a hypoallergenic breed. She’s such and awesome dog, and she’s two hunting breeds. Cocker Spaniels are excellent nose dogs and flushers, and Poodles (standards mostly) have been used as water retrievers all over the world. Basically anything mixed with a Poodle will give you a great natural hunting dog and hypoallergenic. Ours is only 14lbs but we were told that she’d be closer to 25lbs. Most Cockapoos are around that size, which is a great size for hunting. She loves to find birds though!!
The Free White North
Fantastic! Thanks for the reply! Where did you find her?
We got her from a very nice family breeder at a farm outside of Strathmore, Alberta
Would a rottweiler work for upland game and waterfowl
Rotties are great bird dogs!
This video is a reflection of your preference rather than what is "best". I have to respect your intent but sadly, there is VERY little you got right. Let's start at the beginning. You are comparing firearms NOT "weapons". Weapons are used to attack or defend in combat/war. An upland shotgun is typically a SxS or O/U while a waterfowler is typically a semi and for good reasons but I'm trying to stay on the subject. NOTHING 3" is better regardless of gauge, for upland hunting. It conveys either elemental lack of physics/technical understanding or someone that thinks 3" mags will immediately transform them into better shots. Here is a fact: If you can't hit a cow in the asterisk with a snow shovel, it doesn't matter if you use a 10 gauge with 3 1/2" shells. Ask yourself this: How many pellets does it take to drop a pheasant (you spoke of pheasants)? 4-5 max! How many pellets are in a 2 & 3/4" 28 gauge with #6 shot? Answer: roughly 225! You need to put those pellets on the target because you have MORE than enough effective load. If you are going to shoot anything 3", I suggest you go to the next larger gauge and use a FAR more effective 2 3/4" round. Your wife happens to have the superior upland shotgun - just the wrong loads AND she likely flinches. I'm guessing she isn't that great of a shot because of it. ...not her fault. What you have there is NOT an upland bird dog. I'm not saying you CAN'T hunt with that dog. I'm saying you don't need to scent train a "bird dog". They are excited about bird scent out-of-the-box. Steel is NOT better than lead shot. Yes, it is faster because it HAS to be to remotely compete with the killing power/density of lead. By-the-way, I don't eat the lead from my upland birds so it's not about health. If anything, you might accidently bite into a lead pellet which you can remove. If you accidentally bite into a steel pellet, it's probably a visit to your dentist next day! Here is a key consideration of steel vs lead. I have seen FAR more birds crippled/lost from steel than lead. Where do we measure this value? I've seen both waterfowl and doves hit with steel - feathers everywhere - and yet they manage to fly off only to die somewhere else!! It's unethical! Where are those stats? The reason tungsten and bismuth exist is in an effort to replicate the density and therefore downfield effectiveness of LEAD...not steel. As far as I'm concerned, semis should not be allowed as an upland gun, at all. That third shot more-often-than-not contributes to cripples or shots you should never have taken in the first place. Yet again, more cripples! OR, I have witnessed folk shoot 2 shots at one bird, drop it and then shoot that third shot at another and wing it. Then, they can't find either bird because they can't recall exactly where the first OR second bird fell! Again....unethical in the least! Sadly, some hunters with 12 gauge semis think that if they throw enough lead, something has to fall. You know the result....more cripples! As for upland clothing, those jeans with the cordura or nylon-based facing are the absolute WORSE thing you can wear upland hunting where there are thorns, burrs etc. In fact, you're better wearing plain jeans. The cordura weave will actually entrap or snag thorns and then the very tips of these thorns break off in the nylon weave! At the end of the day, you have this red irritation on your skin where the thorn tip scraped your skin! Good luck finding it!! And...they are anything BUT water-repellent! The best product on the market is a waxed cotton over-pant made by Barbour or Outback. They aren't 100% thorn proof or waterproof but they are darn near that. That vest your wearing is...cute but not functional. Trying to insert a bird the size of a pheasant in that vest will require you to be double-jointed. There are strapped vests out there that provide you with front loading access for your game birds AND they offer more safety in that they have more blaze orange than that vest. I believe your heart's in the right place but the content in this video is very poor. I only bring this to light because it might have novices believing what you have offered and that's not fair to them.
not would you be hunting for sport and not consuming the meat?
I wouldn't, but some guys are trophy hunters, even with upland birds. I've seen lots of stuffed pheasants and grouse. To each their own I guess!
@@FreeWhiteNorth you can mount a bird and still eat it, you are only saving the skin, feathers and beak......
Steel shot is garbage
Recommending a double, don't actually have a hunting dog, and shooting pen raised birds....strike 1, strike 2, strike 3 and you're out......you have no idea what a good gun dog is, or training one....
I prefer double
What's wrong with a double? I have an O/U and semi auto. Both are great upland guns