This is what many people spend years in therapy trying to find. Know thyself young ones . Do not lose yourself in this world or become your own monsters.
One of the hardest parts of changing is accepting the past, accepting all that you’ve done and trying to move past and be a better person, Kratos spent GOW2018 and Ragnarok trying to run from his past but only through confrontation was he able to achieve any peace
This is why mirror gazing is probably one of the most profound and intense forms of mediation you can do. Just staring at your own reflection in the eyes.
This is the perfect ending for Kratos' story. Seeing Kratos facing his past self and taking responsibility for his past actions. Not mention, becoming the "God of Hope."
"You have *always* been more than what others saw." It really feels like a direct statement to those who said that the original run of GoW was a childish power-fantasy devoid of any substantive narrative, and that it had "finally" matured with the 2018 game's release. The guy's story was always there. Kratos was always a tragic figure, even though he was also no hero by any stretch of the imagination. All of Valhalla was a stupendous love letter to the OG God of War, and I'm so glad it exists to remind people of it and hopefully see it for what it always was.
I wanna send this to my dad. Tell him that we both must be better than our anger. For the sake of our children, our animals, our family, our friends, our loved ones, we must be better. I worry he will not be able to look past the cloud of anger and regret, and will not understand. I love my father, and I hate him. I must not become him. I have to break the cycle.
just sent this to my father. one of the few scenes in a game that made me bawl like a baby. who would ever think the old hack and slash series would turn into a piece of art. confronting such common issues nobody ever speaks about. this dlc was a masterpiece.
My dad disowned me bc I decided to change my name, but he and I share our same lustful and angry ways. Sometimes I can't control my anger but it's a sin of the father I live with. I try to be better than he was, but sometimes I'm too much the same man as mynfather
There’s so much about this scene that is just beautiful, but I just love that last line “Now? I believe…I would like to sit her for a while.” It may be a bit obvious but it feels like that line has a double meaning. 1. Kratos is a man who has spent his entire life just on the move. Whether he’s fighting, planning, leading an army, hiding from his past, he’s constantly on high alert and ready for anything. He is finally allowing himself to just sit down and relax for probably the first time in years. 2. It may also apply to the throne and the position of “God of War” that Freya offered him and that this is him accepting the role. He will likely sit on that throne of such authority for a while now that he feels ready for such a task. It may be so obvious but it’s still fun to think about nonetheless
has too be hard too face your self and everything he told his younger self was true he over time became heartless power hungry and cold but even with all that he was much more then that he is more then that.
@@SASUKEUCHIHA-dt3cg as an adult, it's entirely too embarrassing that YOU don't know the difference between "to" and "too".... go take some lessons in English, that is just sad
This hit really hard. I did something terrible at 16 to someone who genuinely loved me. I did it so callously and nonchalantly too. No reason and uncalled for. I’m 29 now and it still sits with me. I’ve spent my entire life trying to make up for it, but no matter what I do, the regret never truly diminishes. People say I was just a boy, but I know what I did. Even as a teenager, mistakes can follow you forever.
Satan knows how to attack all of us, we are NOT alone, we all need Jesus Christ only , NO religion, there is much more to the earth then meets the eye !!
Same, I did this three time First when I was a child second, it happen during as a teen third, it happen when I was a young adult And.......I did them very nonchalantly and careless too, I will never able to apologize to those who I hurt, nor they will accept it But I must try to be better, now realize those mistake Otherwise the cycle continues more viciously, more unnecessary fight
I don't know if your Christian or not, but God is real, and if you repent of your sins and hand your life over to him, he will forgive you of everything, past, present, and future.
I would love to be able to tell my past self, who played the first two GOW games, "youre going to play a GOW game in the future that will be so emotional it will make you tear up". My past self would proceed to laugh me out of the room. Its amazing to see kratos develop into the character he is today.
Me: “You ate like an idiot, blamed women for your loneliness, felt threatened by those who wanted to help you, and were terrified of trying something new! You wasted so much of your existence doing NOTHING! But you have ambition. You only need the ambition to show. You have ambition”
Kratos went from the God of War to the God of Hope and Loki went from the God of Mischief to the God of Stories, both a month apart from each other God I love satisfying character arcs that take over decades
As a piece of fan service it would have been good. As a dramatic moment, it would have been infinitely worse. The whole point of the scene is Kratos accepting that the person sat on that throne is him. There aren't two Kratos, it's just him accepting the worst of himself in order to bring out the best. A back and forth would cheapen it.
This is genuinely one of my new favorite moments in any video game. As someone who has been a fan of this series since the GOW1 & 2 bundle for PS3, it’s genuinely breathtaking to see this journey of Kratos go from a relentless monster to a genuinely remorseful yet hopeful man. Not to mention this speech… I feel like this is something a lot of us try to do but struggle greatly with; dealing with our past selves and the path we wrought, good or bad, that lead us to where we are now. There’s so much tension and anger looking into who he was, yet in that tension shines hope that he won’t become that same person, that he won’t make the same mistakes, and that he will be more than what others or even he saw. That tender “you are more than that. You have always been more than what others saw” and hearing it from Kratos of all people is seared into my memory and I always come back to this monologue just to hear it again.
I know this is a late comment, but honestly, it's a really imoressive performance on christopher judges' part. To lead a scene solo, delivering a monologue to show kratos internal struggle. People underestimate how HARD that can be. There is no one to bounce dialogue off of. He alone has to carry that whole scene. When scenes like that are made, and the VA, art directors, and sound team all match perfectly you can make some of the greatest things. This while being better on the movie side that the game side, is better than most games or movies in that regard.
I love this scene and all, but what I really focused on was the throne It's tattered, broken and a piece of rubble from a time of former glory. It's ugly and distasteful. No one but a fool would sit on a throne like that. And yet, It is still there, standing as the man stares into the sunset, looking for hope. It's callous and rough, yet has a familiar feeling. Proud yet humble in it's own way. It is the throne for the ruined, the fools and most importantly those hopers who believe it can become better than what it once was
I'm probably going to be watching this every day. What this is showing is how to confront self-hatred and guilt for what happened in the past you don't exactly have to do bad things to hate yourself. And I'm not going to lie every single time I see this I feel better
Sure, he walks in and randomly starts talking to himself its "deep and heartbreakinf" I do it and its "hes crazy" and i have "have to leave the walmart property"
When he says “you are more than that” “you have always been more than what other’s saw” I know this is a video game, but I recorded that clip and listen to it every single day
It's as if God, Jesus Christ in Heaven wanted me to see this. ''You are cruel, and arrogant, and Selfish, But you are more than that, You have always been more than that. You have always been more than what others saw. You are more than that.'' Remembering selfish desire, inclinations to do evil, God is always present, and Jesus Christ is our only hope for salvation. In short, turn from sin people, use the Good, allowing Jesus to live in you, and emboldening the Characteristics God loves. Honesty, Selflessness, Love, Mercy, Compassion, Sacrifice.
The masculine Urge to overcome ones own demons. To become better for those around us. To want nothing but council our younger selves.......to truly embrace the phrase....nosce te ipsum
He became the *right* God of War. Regretful. Recalcitrant. Only using violence as necessary to protect those he loves. No room for cruelty, or arrogance, or conquest. A Protector above all
That would be sick if there was echos of his old famous phrase like “you will not see the end of this day, I will have my revenge”, as he reflects on his old life
0:56 he realizes, he’s trying to blame another. That’s why he stops. And looks at pandoras figure, remembering what she said “hope makes us strong, it is why we are here. It’s what we fight with when all else is lost..” he remembered pandoras words. And that’s what guided him. Hope. Hope is what makes us strong. It’s the only way you can forgive yourself. If you accept what you’ve done. And realize you can grow, become better. “No more.. no more. For the sake of our children. We. Must. Be. BETTER.”
The only thing missing from this amazing scene is not having Terrance C Carson come back and do voice lines so that old Kratos can talk to his younger self and, to top it off, a boss battle! Young vs old as a way of him conquering his past, forgiving himself, and starting over. That would have been 🔥🔥🔥🔥
For all the hell kratos went through and everything losing his family having a new one i thought kratos was gonna fight his younger self but he has peace
“What can I say to you? I remember how it felt to take the throne. All that it meant. And all that it did not. A God of war... a God of pain. Of suffering. Of destruction. The Norns said I chase a redemption that I know I can never deserve. What does that make me? God of fools. A God of... hope. "When all else is lost..." You lost everything. And everyone. And you became... There is no forgiving you. You chose... I chose. What now? Should I, this same man, should I sit? Take? Proclaim? Lead? Place myself in service? In service. Should I... lose everything and everyone... will there still be enough left inside so that I do not become you? I do not know. But I have hope. You are cruel, and arrogant, and selfish. But... you are more than that. You have always been more than what others saw. You are more than that.” This just brings me to tears because of his beautiful it is. Actually now that I think of it, it actually brings me to TÝRS! (Pauses for laughter at the pun)
The god of hope, it is what inside the Pandora, the grace that could rebuild an entire realm, hope buolds everything, hope brings light and illuminate our path forward, hope os not given, ot is realized unlocked, hope burns within, hope is a prt of our very being, the god of hope. Kratos as a fictional character, have given me more clarity than any poeple I've met, words won't be able to truly covey what hope means, it is demonstrated, it is like a picture, it's not meant to be understood right away, you'll gradually realize the beuty of it's design, it will slowly unravel upon you the more you look at it.
this scene couldve gone better, even what kratos chooses to say coudlve been more impactful. u can tell they wanted it done and out of the way for the fans
They should have brought TC Carson back to voice young kratos one more time. Pay honor to the og kratos and a way of passing the torch! TC carson is the goat the will aways be the real Kratos. 💯
I don’t think a lot of people understand this moment. It’s more than just a cutscene in a game. This is somthing I would repeat in my head over and over because they’re words that mean so much to me. And I live by them every day.
This is what many people spend years in therapy trying to find. Know thyself young ones . Do not lose yourself in this world or become your own monsters.
As a psychologist, I approve this. THIS comment, and all this scene is the exact point of therapy
One of the hardest parts of changing is accepting the past, accepting all that you’ve done and trying to move past and be a better person, Kratos spent GOW2018 and Ragnarok trying to run from his past but only through confrontation was he able to achieve any peace
I know how that is. To accept who you are, your potential, and the dark, violent part of me. It’s helped me move on from suicide
My autistic ass having a deep conversation with myself at 2:00AM
(I’m in the middle of character development)
Real.
Fellow auti
Real
goodluck man
😂 you're not the only one
This has to be one of the best moments in any game in recent time
You can say that again😂
Nah
This is why mirror gazing is probably one of the most profound and intense forms of mediation you can do. Just staring at your own reflection in the eyes.
This is the perfect ending for Kratos' story. Seeing Kratos facing his past self and taking responsibility for his past actions. Not mention, becoming the "God of Hope."
Thats great, money smells good though an there always more that (insert corp here) want, so kratos will be out to slay again
Chris Judge deserves all the awards for this. Such a beautiful performance.
That's putting it mildly
Damn straight. Anything less is a travesty upon the gaming industry.
Amen. I really hope he would take the role in a live action if they ever did one. He is such a perfect Kratos.
The duality between kratos old and new themes is absolutely perfect
"You have *always* been more than what others saw."
It really feels like a direct statement to those who said that the original run of GoW was a childish power-fantasy devoid of any substantive narrative, and that it had "finally" matured with the 2018 game's release. The guy's story was always there. Kratos was always a tragic figure, even though he was also no hero by any stretch of the imagination. All of Valhalla was a stupendous love letter to the OG God of War, and I'm so glad it exists to remind people of it and hopefully see it for what it always was.
I wanna send this to my dad. Tell him that we both must be better than our anger. For the sake of our children, our animals, our family, our friends, our loved ones, we must be better. I worry he will not be able to look past the cloud of anger and regret, and will not understand. I love my father, and I hate him. I must not become him. I have to break the cycle.
I feel the exact same about my old man. Love him and hate him at the same time. You are not alone
You both will find peace. Together. You are more than what others saw. YOU are more than that.
Feels good to know I'm not the only one in such a situation with my father. Thank you for sharing @Wyattb606
just sent this to my father. one of the few scenes in a game that made me bawl like a baby. who would ever think the old hack and slash series would turn into a piece of art. confronting such common issues nobody ever speaks about. this dlc was a masterpiece.
My dad disowned me bc I decided to change my name, but he and I share our same lustful and angry ways. Sometimes I can't control my anger but it's a sin of the father I live with. I try to be better than he was, but sometimes I'm too much the same man as mynfather
There’s so much about this scene that is just beautiful, but I just love that last line “Now? I believe…I would like to sit her for a while.” It may be a bit obvious but it feels like that line has a double meaning.
1. Kratos is a man who has spent his entire life just on the move. Whether he’s fighting, planning, leading an army, hiding from his past, he’s constantly on high alert and ready for anything. He is finally allowing himself to just sit down and relax for probably the first time in years.
2. It may also apply to the throne and the position of “God of War” that Freya offered him and that this is him accepting the role. He will likely sit on that throne of such authority for a while now that he feels ready for such a task.
It may be so obvious but it’s still fun to think about nonetheless
has too be hard too face your self and everything he told his younger self was true he over time became heartless power hungry and cold but even with all that he was much more then that he is more then that.
@@SASUKEUCHIHA-dt3cg as an adult, it's entirely too embarrassing that YOU don't know the difference between "to" and "too".... go take some lessons in English, that is just sad
@@SASUKEUCHIHA-dt3cg to*. the word too is basically the word also, you can used it like “I too want a cake from the shop” just a tip!
I don’t want to be *that* guy, but…
Replace “too” with “to”
@@ratzworththeratemperor3329 by making that comment you do become that guy
Facing oneself is the ultimate battle. For enemies become friends, but our demons live within us until we decide to deal with them for good.
This hit really hard. I did something terrible at 16 to someone who genuinely loved me. I did it so callously and nonchalantly too. No reason and uncalled for. I’m 29 now and it still sits with me. I’ve spent my entire life trying to make up for it, but no matter what I do, the regret never truly diminishes. People say I was just a boy, but I know what I did. Even as a teenager, mistakes can follow you forever.
❤
Satan knows how to attack all of us, we are NOT alone, we all need Jesus Christ only , NO religion, there is much more to the earth then meets the eye !!
We must be better.
Same, I did this three time
First when I was a child
second, it happen during as a teen
third, it happen when I was a young adult
And.......I did them very nonchalantly and careless too, I will never able to apologize to those who I hurt, nor they will accept it
But I must try to be better, now realize those mistake
Otherwise the cycle continues more viciously, more unnecessary fight
I don't know if your Christian or not, but God is real, and if you repent of your sins and hand your life over to him, he will forgive you of everything, past, present, and future.
This part was just so well put together man, this games is just a masterpiece.
Can we pay some respect to this guy?
For not putting a pointless watermark that just makes the scene ugly?
We need more people like him.
I would love to be able to tell my past self, who played the first two GOW games, "youre going to play a GOW game in the future that will be so emotional it will make you tear up". My past self would proceed to laugh me out of the room.
Its amazing to see kratos develop into the character he is today.
life is funny like that huh?
A free DLC gave us the best character development ever.
This is Mike Tyson now to his younger self. Afraid to become what he once was.
Me:
“You ate like an idiot, blamed women for your loneliness, felt threatened by those who wanted to help you, and were terrified of trying something new! You wasted so much of your existence doing NOTHING!
But you have ambition. You only need the ambition to show.
You have ambition”
@@Destinychanged this is literally me.
@@bharat-dz9wiit’s not to late to change. Trust me. I know this.
God be with you, brother, I see where you are getting from
Kratos went from the God of War to the God of Hope and Loki went from the God of Mischief to the God of Stories, both a month apart from each other
God I love satisfying character arcs that take over decades
How amazing would it have been if TC Carson came back to voice young Kratos during this moment.
i think they porposefully avoided that. Both Kratos are adults, it doesn't really makes sense for his voice to change this much
As a piece of fan service it would have been good. As a dramatic moment, it would have been infinitely worse.
The whole point of the scene is Kratos accepting that the person sat on that throne is him. There aren't two Kratos, it's just him accepting the worst of himself in order to bring out the best.
A back and forth would cheapen it.
This is genuinely one of my new favorite moments in any video game. As someone who has been a fan of this series since the GOW1 & 2 bundle for PS3, it’s genuinely breathtaking to see this journey of Kratos go from a relentless monster to a genuinely remorseful yet hopeful man. Not to mention this speech…
I feel like this is something a lot of us try to do but struggle greatly with; dealing with our past selves and the path we wrought, good or bad, that lead us to where we are now. There’s so much tension and anger looking into who he was, yet in that tension shines hope that he won’t become that same person, that he won’t make the same mistakes, and that he will be more than what others or even he saw. That tender “you are more than that. You have always been more than what others saw” and hearing it from Kratos of all people is seared into my memory and I always come back to this monologue just to hear it again.
3:28 alas, the new comfortable dad chair
I find myself coming back to this scene constantly. And saying to myself "YOU CHOSE"!
I know this is a late comment, but honestly, it's a really imoressive performance on christopher judges' part. To lead a scene solo, delivering a monologue to show kratos internal struggle. People underestimate how HARD that can be. There is no one to bounce dialogue off of. He alone has to carry that whole scene.
When scenes like that are made, and the VA, art directors, and sound team all match perfectly you can make some of the greatest things. This while being better on the movie side that the game side, is better than most games or movies in that regard.
No comment is to late I see them all, and I agree he’s a very talented va and mo cap artist
Man this scene still gives me goosebumps.
This is so good and beautiful
I still say an actual fight between old Kratos and young Kratos would cheapen this, and I'm personally glad they didn't
I love this scene and all, but what I really focused on was the throne
It's tattered, broken and a piece of rubble from a time of former glory. It's ugly and distasteful. No one but a fool would sit on a throne like that. And yet, It is still there, standing as the man stares into the sunset, looking for hope. It's callous and rough, yet has a familiar feeling. Proud yet humble in it's own way. It is the throne for the ruined, the fools and most importantly those hopers who believe it can become better than what it once was
i love the call back to the old games. the “weapon” that kratos got from opening pandora’s box that allowed him to defeat the olympians was hope
2:52 When it feels like Kratos is addressing me DIRECTLY. 😢
This spoke so many volumes to me!!!!!
I'm probably going to be watching this every day. What this is showing is how to confront self-hatred and guilt for what happened in the past you don't exactly have to do bad things to hate yourself. And I'm not going to lie every single time I see this I feel better
Kratos: "Now? ...I believe I would like to sit here for a while."
*Scene fades out*
*Credits*
Kratos: "Phew, that's better. My knees were killing me."
Accurate title "God of the Daycare confronts the God of War"
Slim Shady ------> Eminem ( Marshall Mathers )
Young Kratos ------> Old Kratos
Sure, he walks in and randomly starts talking to himself its "deep and heartbreakinf"
I do it and its "hes crazy" and i have "have to leave the walmart property"
They must have paid big money for some serious good writers
If I had the chance, I would share this experience with my younger self in a heartbeat, some things need to be addressed.
ALL HAIL THE GOD OF HOPE
GoT- God of therapy
When he says “you are more than that” “you have always been more than what other’s saw” I know this is a video game, but I recorded that clip and listen to it every single day
It's as if God, Jesus Christ in Heaven wanted me to see this. ''You are cruel, and arrogant, and Selfish, But you are more than that, You have always been more than that. You have always been more than what others saw. You are more than that.'' Remembering selfish desire, inclinations to do evil, God is always present, and Jesus Christ is our only hope for salvation. In short, turn from sin people, use the Good, allowing Jesus to live in you, and emboldening the Characteristics God loves. Honesty, Selflessness, Love, Mercy, Compassion, Sacrifice.
Me when i remember a cringy memory when i was just 5
The only way you win against evil people in this world is to do your very best to not become like them.
This is the perfect end to Kratos' story. There doesn't need to be anymore games, just let it end here
Nah I wanna see kratos live a happy life ahead
@@ਹਰਮਨਸਿੰਘ that's not gonna make for much of a video game. Just let it end here and accept it was a good run.
@@IWearShades we still have Atreus. His story has to continue
It would have been so kick a** when Mimir would just have said „Well played, brother“. 😊
The masculine Urge to overcome ones own demons. To become better for those around us. To want nothing but council our younger selves.......to truly embrace the phrase....nosce te ipsum
He became the *right* God of War. Regretful. Recalcitrant. Only using violence as necessary to protect those he loves. No room for cruelty, or arrogance, or conquest. A Protector above all
That would be sick if there was echos of his old famous phrase like “you will not see the end of this day, I will have my revenge”, as he reflects on his old life
This is the hardest thing Kratos has done. And he's fought gods and Titans
The young kratos was driven by anger the old kratos is driven with wisdom and that is what make him unique
me confronting myself after my friends said i was a selfish, egotistical, and arrogant bastard
(i've been told i'm doing better now)
Forgive yourself and repent because you're more than your sins.
0:56 he realizes, he’s trying to blame another. That’s why he stops. And looks at pandoras figure, remembering what she said “hope makes us strong, it is why we are here. It’s what we fight with when all else is lost..” he remembered pandoras words. And that’s what guided him. Hope. Hope is what makes us strong. It’s the only way you can forgive yourself. If you accept what you’ve done. And realize you can grow, become better. “No more.. no more. For the sake of our children. We. Must. Be. BETTER.”
The only thing missing from this amazing scene is not having Terrance C Carson come back and do voice lines so that old Kratos can talk to his younger self and, to top it off, a boss battle! Young vs old as a way of him conquering his past, forgiving himself, and starting over. That would have been 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I want to believe that kratos went through this hundreds of times until he got the point of that throne and what it truly meant to be a god of war.
I watch this at least once a week.
I belive a fakos line can sum up everything and that is "I have not brought you liberty, I found it here, among you." By Skanderbeg
This is one of the few shining examples of what i would consider a AAA game.
Me talking to my younger military self.
It’s like watching Shakespeare
Imagine if they got the original kratos voice actor to talk to Christopher judge during the scene ah man game of the year right there
For all the hell kratos went through and everything losing his family having a new one i thought kratos was gonna fight his younger self but he has peace
I unintentionally said something bad in the OSC and I relate to this.
How many men have had to have this conversation with themselves. I’ll start🙏🏽💪🏾✋🏾
0:29 is the famous line
“What can I say to you? I remember how it felt to take the throne. All that it meant. And all that it did not. A God of war... a God of pain. Of suffering. Of destruction. The Norns said I chase a redemption that I know I can never deserve. What does that make me? God of fools. A God of... hope. "When all else is lost..." You lost everything. And everyone. And you became... There is no forgiving you. You chose... I chose. What now? Should I, this same man, should I sit? Take? Proclaim? Lead? Place myself in service? In service. Should I... lose everything and everyone... will there still be enough left inside so that I do not become you? I do not know. But I have hope. You are cruel, and arrogant, and selfish. But... you are more than that. You have always been more than what others saw. You are more than that.”
This just brings me to tears because of his beautiful it is. Actually now that I think of it, it actually brings me to TÝRS!
(Pauses for laughter at the pun)
where can i find the vocals without the background music?
I NEED IT ASWELL
By some reason, i see this scene as a methaphor of the Old time games vs Actual New world 2030 Agenda games.
I chose .
Austrian Painter confronts the guy who killed him
The god of hope, it is what inside the Pandora, the grace that could rebuild an entire realm, hope buolds everything, hope brings light and illuminate our path forward, hope os not given, ot is realized unlocked, hope burns within, hope is a prt of our very being, the god of hope.
Kratos as a fictional character, have given me more clarity than any poeple I've met, words won't be able to truly covey what hope means, it is demonstrated, it is like a picture, it's not meant to be understood right away, you'll gradually realize the beuty of it's design, it will slowly unravel upon you the more you look at it.
I can just Imagine how this fight could have gone down My Gosh 😂
Should have brought back the original voice actor to voice young Kratos and write a few lines in response.
I really hope kratos gets to meet Jesus Someday.
this scene couldve gone better, even what kratos chooses to say coudlve been more impactful. u can tell they wanted it done and out of the way for the fans
They should have brought TC Carson back to voice young kratos one more time. Pay honor to the og kratos and a way of passing the torch! TC carson is the goat the will aways be the real Kratos. 💯
@@Leviathan1000 real
I don’t think a lot of people understand this moment. It’s more than just a cutscene in a game. This is somthing I would repeat in my head over and over because they’re words that mean so much to me. And I live by them every day.
Christ.
You are cruel, and arrogant, and selfish.
But you've always been more than that.
Why didn’t young Kratos on the throne not speak old Kratos
Because he couldn’t see him , was blinded by destruction that he can’t see hope hence the new self is hope so he can’t see
what's the song
the 17 dislikes are the olympians & dead norse gods
He needs Christ
We need one more game where it starts positive and atreus dies at the end or middle of the game and kratos kills whoever did it