McDavid in down to Superstar, Mathews down to all-star. Mathews needs to have playoff success before he is in all-star. Same with McDavid, was absolutely invisible in the playoffs. I agree with Hughes and Laf. (For now.) I think in their prime they will reach All-star or Superstar. But other than that, your list is perfect.
DiPietro needs to be in the hall of fame for the biggest fleecing of a team of all time, he now works for the islanders, so he is getting a double payment lol
Stamkos has 450 goals and he is only 31 years old. He probably ends up with over 600. He is a first ballot hall of famer in my books. But thanks for the work on the video! Really interesting seeing all these guys compared.
He basically is, only argument you can make against him is his injury history, if he gets 2 more 90-100 point seasons, or another cup, it’s a lock. Bruins fan
@@slipperynodd578 Two rocket richards, two stanley cups, five 40+ goal seasons, captains one of the best teams in recent history. Yeah, he's a lock. Also scored 60 goals in his 4th season in the NHL :O
Hi Rob, great vid. I think your Stamkos quandary might be solved by adding a tier for HOF (eventually) and turning the top tier into “first ballot HOF.” That way Stammer and Mac aren’t grouped in with Kovy and Tavares
Kovalchuk will get in for international play and nhl career, it's the HHoF not NHLHoF. Good idea adding the 1st ballot though, definitely applies here.
Exactly. I respect you for saying that, because I think both can have 100 point seasons. And as a Islander fan saying that means a lot. For that I’ll admit, Barzal is probably the best C in NY (hurts bc I’m a ranger fan) and one of the best in the league.
@@zibanejad933 zibanejad is an all around better player than barzal. He puts up more points, more goals, kills penalties, is the most dangerous player on the team on the PP and hes great defensively. Barzal is great offensively but it ends there
While it's too early to judge Laf's career trajectory, I have to defend his rookie season somewhat. He came into the year with a very abbreviated training camp, no preseason, not having played meaningful hockey in long time, so he was going to need a while to adjust to the speed of the NHL. He also was stuck in the bottom 6 for most of the year, so he wasn't getting the minutes or quality linemates he needed to produce. In his last 25 games he had 13 points (7 pts in his last 9 games), so he was starting to trend upward.
Good list and some insightful commentary. I think Stamkos is a surefire HOFer. In the future I'll suggest you make two HOF tiers: '1st ballot HOFer' and 'HOFer'. Players like Crosby, Ovi, Kane are clear 1st ballot HOFers; having two HOF tiers will allow you to separate them from players like Stamkos.
Great video Rob, love to see your face! I think you underestimate how much easier the Hockey Hall of Fame is than places like the Baseball Hall of Fame. So whether or not guys like Stamkos or Mackinnon would make it in a different Hall of Fame, I think they are both bound to make it in hockey. One video idea to follow up your embarrassing records video could be the most unique records. You could start with Victor Hedman's goal in all twelve calendar months, Billy Mosienko's hat-trick in 21 second and so on.
I’m a devils fan and I agree with Hughes and Hischier. They’re coming up with a rebuilding team but I think they’ll evolve into very reliable players. Hughes actually had similar numbers to when stamkos was a rookie.
No it is the best way for a young super star to mature. Because they need to earn every minutes he plays. Even if he is the next big things doesnt mean he should play more if he does miskate. Sorry for my english
Médicis award winning author Dany Laferrière may be too old to play more than 13 minutes a game. First round pick Alexis Lafrenière should get more ice time though.
Steven Stamkos is a lock for the hall. Barring anything unforeseen, he’s gonna finish with at least 600 goals, well over 1200 points. Multi cup winner, one of the best leaders in the game. Over a PPG, HOF LOCK
If you look at Lafrenière’s month by month splits you can see how much he improved throughout the season. It took him a while to adjust but I think next year he’s gonna have a massive breakout season
Great video as always. As a MTL guy and professional TOR hater, I still think that Mathews is going to get to the hall of fame without getting a cup EVER. If you think we are hard on our team in MTL, Mathews 23 years old and Marner 24 are getting trashed for not carrying their team in the playoffs. A team without a goalie and a suspect defense at most. BTW, John Tavares has won nothing without Carey Price in the goals. That guy is overrated and over paid. His contract is what is going to prevent the Leafs form getting a cup for the next 10 years and I can't complain about this.
@@IWatts007 it’s just something I thought of, don’t take it seriously, I just thought it would be cool to rename the trophy after the best goal scorer in NHL history.
@@paigeguerin2607 like I said, it was just something I thought of, I didn’t comment this to debate if they should change the Rocket Richard trophy’s name, it was something to imagine ok?
Matthews and mackinnon should both be in hall of fame and I am not being biased to Matthews just because he is on my favourite team and is my favourite player but he has been great since he started in the nhl he has proven that he can play against Crosby Kane mcdavid and mackinnon is better then mcdavid he is great player and can actually do stuff in the playoffs
I think both Dahlin and Lafreniere were screwed over by their respective coaches last year. We saw that Dahlin was much better under Granato, hopefully Laf can do the same under Gallant. Could see them and Hughes all easily end up in all star if not superstar in the next couple years
I am optimistic. Given Dylan Guenthers sample size this season, this one can seriously blow up in their faces 5 years from now... Not to mention OEL needs to have a big bounce back season. If he doesn't and or Guenther develops into a star this was a horrible trade. However, if OEL does bounce back, he will be a great mentor to Hughes and provide more consistency on the blueline and on the PP. Conor Garland is a stud, and will compliment the top 6 tremendously. I think Van needs to work on the right side of their blueline big time though.
@@RobTalksHockey yeah right side needs work for sure. I am also in the optimistic camp. I think OEL can get most of his form back being in an environment he wants to be in and with good players around him helping to contribute. Whether he can keep it up for the entirety of his contract is questionable. But we have seen players keep it up well into there 30's. It's not super common but does happen. Chara for example.
Nice. I actually quite respect that list. I do think even with what Stammer has done to this point, though, he does make it into the Hall of Fame. So I may have bumped him up, even though I agree that the others in Hall of Fame are more deserving to be there. But yeah, that doesn't take away from this being a super solid list. Nice one. I also like that there wasn't a "too early to judge" category, because really even Matthews and MacKinnon are a bit early to judge whether they're HoF or not. Not too early to predict, of course, as it'd be an easy prediction to say they'd end up there. I forsure think they will. But that's based on the future potential of their careers. I think right now you have them at the right spot. So nice list!
Stamkos, Hall of Fame...his injuries were/are paramount to his lower level of play at times, Yet, he's still lead a team with 2 back-to-back Cups. That isn't analytic, that's a strong leader who deserves to enter the hall!
@@aaronocker6841 Yeah he was the captain in the regular season and has been captain since 2014...but like I said: he literally played one game. Hedman was the one leading that team, maybe Kucherov. Stamkos isn't a playoff performer and last year's cup proved that as good as Stamkos is...Tamps doesn't need him to win the cup and he's not the type of player to put the team on his back.
as a panther fan who watched the panthers all year, i can agree on all star but this year he was in norris talks until his season ending injury. he was really good offensively and defensively this year and was extremely consistent.
I think a season away from David Quinn and one with Gallant will do wonders for Laf. Quinn was freaking awful at getting the most from our young talent save for Adam Fox, who was awesome right out of the gate.
I think you’re standards for Hall of Fame are too high. Every eligible forward who has won a Hart trophy is in the Hall of Fame. Hall, Matthews, Stamkos and MacKinnon will all make it in. If Guy Carbonneau can make it, they will too. Love your videos. Keep it up! ✌️
Not really hes never won the hart the rocket any team awards but I can see where you're coming from. I don't think he'll ever win a hart just bc of McDavid not bc hes bad. And I don't think he'll ever win a rocket bc of Matthew's. But he probably has the best chance out of those 2 to win a cup
@@kappak4371 Yeah he has a great chance at winning a cup plus there are plenty of forwards that are in the HOF that never won a Hart or Rocket. As long as he keeps putting up 100 pt seasons and continues to be a top 3 player in the league he will easily make the HOF
Back when Jack Hughes was drafted I was reading a ton of fans “he’s going to surpass Gretzky.” The man has 50 ish points in two seasons….good luck kid!
If McDavid won’t pass Gretzky putting up the numbers he has for his entire (hopefully) 15-20 year career. Nobody will. It’s as simple as that, it was a different time.
I’m sorry bud but as an audio engineer it really bother me… you’re supposed to talk in front of the mic, not on top. You’ll hear a big increase in audio quality lol
I like to reference greatness based on hardware. Its very difficult to compare eras, but hardware is a constant. Ovi has the most Rocket trophies in NHL history and he may not be done yet. Although Bossy vs. Ovi is an argument that can go either way
Hey RTH, love your content, been a fan for about a year. Good to actually see your face during the video too. Good luck in the new house. As a Maple Leaf fan, I really wanted to see Matthews in HOF category, but I get where you're coming from. Think he can get to get level, and also do u think MaKinnon could get there?
Optimistic. The Dylan Guenther pick could be devastating in 5 years, and if OEL doesn’t bounce back it is a horrible trade. But we have potential star offensive d to help mentor Hughes, and hopefully a sub $4 million Garland who will be a stud in the top 6 which was desperately needed. With the development of Hoglander and intro of Podz our top 9 is rounding out nicely.
I agree for the most part. It's a pretty good list but I think Stamkos, Tavares, McKinnon amd Matthews will be in the Hall of Fame, especially if you look at some of the guys in there already. There's a lot generous entries.
Nugent-Hopkins is underrated. Overall, I think he is a much better player than Taylor Hall, but he's learned to play like a defensive forward (Patrice Bergeron?). On the Oilers pp, he is the perfect supporting cast for McD and Draisaitl. Puljujarvi crowds the crease, Nurse or Barrie on the point, Drai hangs out around the goal line to snipe ridiculous extreme angle shots, and McDavid is the 1st string Quarterback. Nugent Hopkins is like the second string QB on this pp, the desire is for the puck to be on Connor's stick, but with that amazing supporting pp cast, its almost as deadly on Nugent Hopkins' stick as it is on McD's.
Lafreniere belongs in the Yakupov category, maybe even call it the Lafreniere/Yakupov category after next season where he falls even further into obscurity.
Ok Red Wings fan, upset you didn’t get Laf the HoF player. He’s gonna be a 100+ point getter. It was his first season, and he didn’t play yet. You are a moron.
@@zibanejad933 Yakupov played 48 games his rookie season and put up 31 points. Lafreniere played 56 played games and put up 21 points... the numbers don't lie. Lafreniere is a confirmed bust! You'd have to be delusional to not see it.
Laffy is not MEH. He’s Above average. He plays on a stacked team and still finds ways to put up points and make plays. He’ll be a super star once those guys move on.
He broke his tibia in 2013-14 which is the only reason he wasnt a point per game player the following two seasons. The "inconsistency" Rob's delusional ass was talking about.
Kovalchuk would be in the hall of fame if he didn’t go to the KHL, probably around 600-650 goals had he played in the NHL the whole time and averaged similar numbers. Its too bad.
I'm a Leafs fan, I love Matthews, I think he is an elite goal scorer and probably the best player the Leafs have ever had in their history. That being said, McDavid is on just a completely different level than everyone else in the league, the guy was on a POINT PER PERIOD pace last season.
You absolutely can not put MacKinnon on the superstar level for not having playoff success and then proceed to put McDavid in to the hall of fame. MacKinnon will be in the hall of fame with atleast two cups (with avs) but McDavid won't win a cup atleast as an oiler. I do think they are both hall of fame tier players. But if McDavid doesn't get out of Edmonton he won't win a cup (or has similar playoff succes like until today) and that could keep him out of the hall.
So long as McDavid continues playing for the Oilers, he will NOT win a cup. Definitely premature to put him in the HoF at this point (although he definitely has the potential to go there)
You don’t need to win a Stanley cup to get into the hall of fame. It definitely makes it easier, but guys like Adam Oates, Jarome Iginla, Pavel Bure, Dino Ciccarelli, Dale Hawerchuck, Pat Lafontaine, Rod Gilbert, Borje Salming, Peter Stasny, Mike Gartner and many many more have all been inducted into the Hall without a cup. McDavid will easily get into the HoF.
Then Fleury goes to a team that proves his entire career he's been supported by good goalscoring and that his Vezina is a lifetime achievement award (Vasilevskiy should have gotten it easily but whatever)
What would you change? And what are you thoughts on the draft? Were you surprised by any picks (OTTAWA SMH)
I would change nail to S tier
Nuge should be in hall of fame come on 69 points was his best season even mcjesus couldn't do that
@@gosharkz8863 mcjesus just put up 105 points in 56 games 🤣
@@_harman150 🤦
McDavid in down to Superstar, Mathews down to all-star. Mathews needs to have playoff success before he is in all-star. Same with McDavid, was absolutely invisible in the playoffs. I agree with Hughes and Laf. (For now.) I think in their prime they will reach All-star or Superstar. But other than that, your list is perfect.
Can we all agree that robs editing/commentary has risen to a new level as of late
100% rob has been even more of a legend lately
Someone says that every video
@@chrisstaples182 at some point the editing just doesn't surprise you anymore
Bc he is the true GOAT of hockey TH-cam
He is constantly improving and that's great.
DiPietro needs to be in the hall of fame for the biggest fleecing of a team of all time, he now works for the islanders, so he is getting a double payment lol
He's there as a live reminder to avoid massive long term deals!
Finesse
His agent is Jordan Belfort.
@@JonathanLau can't sign over 8 years now.
The Bobby Bonilla of the NHL
Lafreniere was also getting 5 minutes a night for the majority of the season.
Because thats what he deserved
Stamkos has 450 goals and he is only 31 years old. He probably ends up with over 600. He is a first ballot hall of famer in my books. But thanks for the work on the video! Really interesting seeing all these guys compared.
I agree and he’s my fav player
He’s gotta win in a non-covid season first
@@Killerbeast-hx5qp thats not gonna happen, covids gonna exist for like 10 more variants lmao
@@123jujuyou Well then Stamkos will never be a hall of famer I’m afraid. Can’t be saved by covid your entire life and expect to be in the hall.
@@Killerbeast-hx5qp so if McDavid doesn’t win a cup he’s never going to be in the hall of fame?
McKinnon is going to end up hall of fame
PROBABLY, let's see how he handles losing his buddy Gabe!
It's way too early to say anything about MacKinnon. Remember, until the 2017-2018 season, he was looking like a bit of a disappointment.
Until he wins a cup he’s not. Draisaitl has outplayed him every year as of late
Fore sure
@@munkeslamik2708 ah yes, Connor McDavid won’t go to the hall of fame unless he has won a cup.
It’s definitely too soon to judge Lafreniere so
Also lafs second half of the season and when he played on the first line he was incredible it was bad coaching
@@benjaminfineman5409 Can't wait to see him under Gallant's tutelage!
Hard to succeed in a toxic environment.
@@Tansle620 ask a leafs fan it’s worse
@@squidsfc6372 don't even have to ask. I live in Leafs territory.
stammer 2 rockets a 60 goal season over a point a game in his career and the captain of back to back cup winning team. HOF for sure.
Stamkos is a lock for the hall of fame.
Nah
He basically is, only argument you can make against him is his injury history, if he gets 2 more 90-100 point seasons, or another cup, it’s a lock.
Bruins fan
Nah
@@slipperynodd578 Two rocket richards, two stanley cups, five 40+ goal seasons, captains one of the best teams in recent history. Yeah, he's a lock.
Also scored 60 goals in his 4th season in the NHL :O
He's close, he'd be between the hof and all star tier
Hi Rob, great vid. I think your Stamkos quandary might be solved by adding a tier for HOF (eventually) and turning the top tier into “first ballot HOF.” That way Stammer and Mac aren’t grouped in with Kovy and Tavares
Agreed
i mean kovalchuk could be put in at some point with his khl career too.
Kovalchuk will get in for international play and nhl career, it's the HHoF not NHLHoF. Good idea adding the 1st ballot though, definitely applies here.
You gotta have a too early slot. Too early to judge Hughes and Laf
Exactly. I respect you for saying that, because I think both can have 100 point seasons. And as a Islander fan saying that means a lot. For that I’ll admit, Barzal is probably the best C in NY (hurts bc I’m a ranger fan) and one of the best in the league.
dahlin too
@@zibanejad933 zibanejad is an all around better player than barzal. He puts up more points, more goals, kills penalties, is the most dangerous player on the team on the PP and hes great defensively. Barzal is great offensively but it ends there
Maybe I like the hot takes of not having that category 😳
@@RobTalksHockey I can respect that😁
I feel sorry for anyone who has to play for Buffalo. Imagine what Eichel would have done if he played for literally any other team.
That's how I feel about OEL. Think he's gonna be a gem for the nucks
Haha how did Eichel under perform??
This aged well
We’re all happy I think that we’re going to be able to see him compete with a competitive team
@@danevertt3210 i think that’s kind of the point, he did very well even on the sabres, meaning he’d be that much better anywhere else
While it's too early to judge Laf's career trajectory, I have to defend his rookie season somewhat. He came into the year with a very abbreviated training camp, no preseason, not having played meaningful hockey in long time, so he was going to need a while to adjust to the speed of the NHL. He also was stuck in the bottom 6 for most of the year, so he wasn't getting the minutes or quality linemates he needed to produce. In his last 25 games he had 13 points (7 pts in his last 9 games), so he was starting to trend upward.
Been a hot a minute since we got to see robs beautiful face and tier lists. Feels good to see both back
Good list and some insightful commentary. I think Stamkos is a surefire HOFer. In the future I'll suggest you make two HOF tiers: '1st ballot HOFer' and 'HOFer'. Players like Crosby, Ovi, Kane are clear 1st ballot HOFers; having two HOF tiers will allow you to separate them from players like Stamkos.
Great video Rob, love to see your face! I think you underestimate how much easier the Hockey Hall of Fame is than places like the Baseball Hall of Fame. So whether or not guys like Stamkos or Mackinnon would make it in a different Hall of Fame, I think they are both bound to make it in hockey. One video idea to follow up your embarrassing records video could be the most unique records. You could start with Victor Hedman's goal in all twelve calendar months, Billy Mosienko's hat-trick in 21 second and so on.
I’m a devils fan and I agree with Hughes and Hischier. They’re coming up with a rebuilding team but I think they’ll evolve into very reliable players. Hughes actually had similar numbers to when stamkos was a rookie.
I like the new setup, been here since before 1k, this setup must be the best one yet, the Jim benning completely makes it
Laferrière was only playing 13 minutes so it’s the coaches fault.
He had a pretty good finish this season. He will be a star in the future.
No it is the best way for a young super star to mature. Because they need to earn every minutes he plays. Even if he is the next big things doesnt mean he should play more if he does miskate.
Sorry for my english
Médicis award winning author Dany Laferrière may be too old to play more than 13 minutes a game. First round pick Alexis Lafrenière should get more ice time though.
You mean Lafreniere right? Laferrière is a stud prospect drafted two years ago
@@williamwoodsworth441 blues legend
Steven Stamkos is a lock for the hall. Barring anything unforeseen, he’s gonna finish with at least 600 goals, well over 1200 points. Multi cup winner, one of the best leaders in the game. Over a PPG, HOF LOCK
Stamkos will definitely be in the Hall of Fame come on lol
Based on what? 2 covid cups and being carried by his team?
@@Killerbeast-hx5qphe is literally going to score 600 goals and probably end up with 1200 points. He’s a hall of famer
Oh my goodness I can’t stop watching your content. Love this guy!
Lucky the oilers drafted Mcdavid cause every other 1st rounder ended up being weak compared to the other 1st of the decade.
If you look at Lafrenière’s month by month splits you can see how much he improved throughout the season. It took him a while to adjust but I think next year he’s gonna have a massive breakout season
how did that turn out?
@@beckett381 mr hindsight thinks he’s smart
@@User-12133 hes shit
Great video as always.
As a MTL guy and professional TOR hater, I still think that Mathews is going to get to the hall of fame without getting a cup EVER.
If you think we are hard on our team in MTL, Mathews 23 years old and Marner 24 are getting trashed for not carrying their team in the playoffs. A team without a goalie and a suspect defense at most.
BTW, John Tavares has won nothing without Carey Price in the goals. That guy is overrated and over paid. His contract is what is going to prevent the Leafs form getting a cup for the next 10 years and I can't complain about this.
Incorrect. Terrible comment
@@snipeshow___8925 he’s absolutely not wrong. What part do you disagree with?
almost to 60k !! i remember when your goal for the 2020 year was 5k haha keep it up rob thanks for the content
Thanks brother 🤙🏼
RTH: Mcdavid scores 105 points in 56 games
Auston Matthews:41 goals in 56 games
Leafs fan?
Even nuge is better than Auston
I like the leafs better than the oilers the oilers are terrible
Mackinnon>Matthews
@@Tylerboyd2001 yes but I’m not talking about mackinnon I am talking about Mcdavid
I think you should do one for each pick 1st to 10th overall (updates)
Nuge should be in hall of fame come on 69 points was his best season even mcjesus couldn't do that
McDavid needs to aim for 169 then.
Let’s be honest stamkos is a hall of fame lock
Now its 2022. You better make Austin a hall of famer now
Stammer is a hof lock😭
Imagine changing the rocket Richard trophy to the great 8 trophy! That would be amazing!!!
@@IWatts007 if nothing else it would piss off Quebec and that is never a bad thing.
@@IWatts007 it’s just something I thought of, don’t take it seriously, I just thought it would be cool to rename the trophy after the best goal scorer in NHL history.
@@floridaman735 nah way too soon for that also the Rocket means more to Hockey than great 8 does
@@paigeguerin2607 like I said, it was just something I thought of, I didn’t comment this to debate if they should change the Rocket Richard trophy’s name, it was something to imagine ok?
@@paigeguerin2607 wrong
Matthews and mackinnon should both be in hall of fame and I am not being biased to Matthews just because he is on my favourite team and is my favourite player but he has been great since he started in the nhl he has proven that he can play against Crosby Kane mcdavid and mackinnon is better then mcdavid he is great player and can actually do stuff in the playoffs
matthews cant do a
thin g in the playoffs
Stamkos was really set back by injuries - I think he's an easy hall of fame candidate.
New set up looks blessed! Love your videos and tier lists🔥🔥🔥🙏
I think both Dahlin and Lafreniere were screwed over by their respective coaches last year. We saw that Dahlin was much better under Granato, hopefully Laf can do the same under Gallant. Could see them and Hughes all easily end up in all star if not superstar in the next couple years
I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Canucks big moves with Arizona this week
I am optimistic. Given Dylan Guenthers sample size this season, this one can seriously blow up in their faces 5 years from now... Not to mention OEL needs to have a big bounce back season. If he doesn't and or Guenther develops into a star this was a horrible trade. However, if OEL does bounce back, he will be a great mentor to Hughes and provide more consistency on the blueline and on the PP. Conor Garland is a stud, and will compliment the top 6 tremendously. I think Van needs to work on the right side of their blueline big time though.
@@RobTalksHockey yeah right side needs work for sure. I am also in the optimistic camp. I think OEL can get most of his form back being in an environment he wants to be in and with good players around him helping to contribute. Whether he can keep it up for the entirety of his contract is questionable. But we have seen players keep it up well into there 30's. It's not super common but does happen. Chara for example.
Nice. I actually quite respect that list. I do think even with what Stammer has done to this point, though, he does make it into the Hall of Fame. So I may have bumped him up, even though I agree that the others in Hall of Fame are more deserving to be there. But yeah, that doesn't take away from this being a super solid list. Nice one. I also like that there wasn't a "too early to judge" category, because really even Matthews and MacKinnon are a bit early to judge whether they're HoF or not. Not too early to predict, of course, as it'd be an easy prediction to say they'd end up there. I forsure think they will. But that's based on the future potential of their careers. I think right now you have them at the right spot. So nice list!
Stamkos, Hall of Fame...his injuries were/are paramount to his lower level of play at times, Yet, he's still lead a team with 2 back-to-back Cups. That isn't analytic, that's a strong leader who deserves to enter the hall!
Stamkos led his team to one cup. He played a single game last year's playoffs.
@@paulbaker9086 bad take, he was still the captain for the regular season and several seasons prior. he absolutely led the team
@@aaronocker6841 Yeah he was the captain in the regular season and has been captain since 2014...but like I said: he literally played one game. Hedman was the one leading that team, maybe Kucherov. Stamkos isn't a playoff performer and last year's cup proved that as good as Stamkos is...Tamps doesn't need him to win the cup and he's not the type of player to put the team on his back.
@@paulbaker9086did you just say Stamkos isn’t a playoff performer?
Nathan Mackinnon is a Hall of Fame talent
Man good to see you
Grate video you are killing it.
Waiting for your next upload !! Keep up the great work 👍
as a panther fan who watched the panthers all year, i can agree on all star but this year he was in norris talks until his season ending injury. he was really good offensively and defensively this year and was extremely consistent.
At the end of the season laf was great and he put it all together and I think u should put him in the above average tier
Nice video just subbed. I personally think this was a decent list!
good editing👍
I think a season away from David Quinn and one with Gallant will do wonders for Laf. Quinn was freaking awful at getting the most from our young talent save for Adam Fox, who was awesome right out of the gate.
Another great video bro. Keep up the nice work.
Both Mackinnon and Yakupov need to be in the hall of fame
I agree with everything except Dahlin. I'd say he could slip into All-Star by now
I think you’re standards for Hall of Fame are too high. Every eligible forward who has won a Hart trophy is in the Hall of Fame. Hall, Matthews, Stamkos and MacKinnon will all make it in. If Guy Carbonneau can make it, they will too. Love your videos. Keep it up! ✌️
Hall probably won’t make it in. The other three probably will.
Stamkos HOF
POV: Your here after Nathan win a Stanley cup
in a few years you do this again matthews and mackinnon will be hall of fame
Bruh Dahlin should have his own category at the bottom
Steven Stamkos is a hall of famer I’m sorry
Not a single player on this list came in and played 3rd line minutes except Lafreniere. Kid is gonna be a stud.
stamkos is going to the hall of fame no question
Mackinnon would have to fall off a cliff to not make the HOF
Not really hes never won the hart the rocket any team awards but I can see where you're coming from. I don't think he'll ever win a hart just bc of McDavid not bc hes bad. And I don't think he'll ever win a rocket bc of Matthew's. But he probably has the best chance out of those 2 to win a cup
@@kappak4371 Yeah he has a great chance at winning a cup plus there are plenty of forwards that are in the HOF that never won a Hart or Rocket. As long as he keeps putting up 100 pt seasons and continues to be a top 3 player in the league he will easily make the HOF
Yakupov will be in the HHOF just for his 160 foot long goal celebration!
Can you rank all Captains and alternates for every team?
Back when Jack Hughes was drafted I was reading a ton of fans “he’s going to surpass Gretzky.” The man has 50 ish points in two seasons….good luck kid!
Gonna need more than a couple 150+ point seasons at this point.
If McDavid won’t pass Gretzky putting up the numbers he has for his entire (hopefully) 15-20 year career. Nobody will. It’s as simple as that, it was a different time.
95.6 is mcdavid’s career average points per season.
95.6*25=2390….
Mcdavid performing at his best for his entire career would not match Gretzky.
@@jefffowler7269 its because even adjusted for era Gretzky is the greatest of all time.
It sounds like Lafreniere's skillset does not always translate to the stat sheet...
Wow I agree with this 100% (as of right now obviously) I think you did really good this time round 👍👍
Loving the background art haha
Pittsburgh drafted a hall of famer 3 years in a row
😂😂😂😂 another great video Rob Hutten!
Throw back lmao
Love the new setup
I’m sorry bud but as an audio engineer it really bother me… you’re supposed to talk in front of the mic, not on top. You’ll hear a big increase in audio quality lol
greatest pure goal scorer ever no argument mike bossy most goals a game average. the goat. then gretz then ov.
I like to reference greatness based on hardware. Its very difficult to compare eras, but hardware is a constant. Ovi has the most Rocket trophies in NHL history and he may not be done yet. Although Bossy vs. Ovi is an argument that can go either way
Hey RTH, love your content, been a fan for about a year. Good to actually see your face during the video too. Good luck in the new house. As a Maple Leaf fan, I really wanted to see Matthews in HOF category, but I get where you're coming from. Think he can get to get level, and also do u think MaKinnon could get there?
As long as they don’t fall off a cliff, I 100% think they will both be in the HOF. A bit too early, but they are both game breaking talents.
@@RobTalksHockey sounds good thanks
How do you feel about the Canucks trade? and love the Vids man!
Optimistic. The Dylan Guenther pick could be devastating in 5 years, and if OEL doesn’t bounce back it is a horrible trade. But we have potential star offensive d to help mentor Hughes, and hopefully a sub $4 million Garland who will be a stud in the top 6 which was desperately needed. With the development of Hoglander and intro of Podz our top 9 is rounding out nicely.
I agree for the most part. It's a pretty good list but I think Stamkos, Tavares, McKinnon amd Matthews will be in the Hall of Fame, especially if you look at some of the guys in there already. There's a lot generous entries.
Tavares probably won’t be, unless Toronto wins some cups. His individual numbers and overall success won’t be there
Perfect rankings in my books.
EJ's playing alot better atm might be worth a change
Embracing the Jimbo meme, I love it
mackinnon took that limited playoff success remark to heart this season
Nugent-Hopkins is underrated. Overall, I think he is a much better player than Taylor Hall, but he's learned to play like a defensive forward (Patrice Bergeron?).
On the Oilers pp, he is the perfect supporting cast for McD and Draisaitl. Puljujarvi crowds the crease, Nurse or Barrie on the point, Drai hangs out around the goal line to snipe ridiculous extreme angle shots, and McDavid is the 1st string Quarterback. Nugent Hopkins is like the second string QB on this pp, the desire is for the puck to be on Connor's stick, but with that amazing supporting pp cast, its almost as deadly on Nugent Hopkins' stick as it is on McD's.
If Lindros is in the Hall of fame with no cups then Stamkos is first ballot being a captain on 2 cup teams
Good video. I agree with all of the picks
The monitor backgrounds are amazing LMFAO
Great vid
1st Round picks 1-10 Superstar or higher (2000-present)
2000:
- Marian Gaborik
2001:
- Ilya Kovalchuk
- Jason Spezza
2002:
- Jay Bouwmeester
2003:
- Marc-Andre Fleury
- Ryan Suter
2004:
- Alexander Ovechkin
- Evgeni Malkin
- Blake Wheeler
2005:
- Sidney Crosby
- Carey Price
2006:
- Jonathan Toews
- Nicklas Backstrom
2007:
- Patrick Kane
2008:
- Steven Stamkos
- Drew Doughty
- Alex Pietrangelo
2009:
- John Tavares
- Victor Hedman
2010:
- Tyler Seguin
2011:
- Jonathan Huberdeau
- Mark Scheifele
- Sean Couturier
- Dougie Hamilton
2012:
- None
2013:
- Nathan MacKinnon
- Aleksander Barkov
2014:
- Aaron Ekblad
- Leon Draisaitl
2015:
- Connor McDavid
- Mitch Marner
- Ivan Provorov
- Zach Werenski
- Mikko Rantanen
2016:
- Auston Matthews
- Mikhail Sergachev
2017:
- Miro Heiskanen
- Cale Makar
- Elias Pettersson
2018:
- Rasmus Dahlin
- Andrei Svechnikov
- Quinn Hughes
- Adam Boqvist
2019:
- Jack Hughes
2020:
- Alexis Lafrèniere
- Quinton Byfield
- Tim Stutzle
- Alexander Holtz
Where’s Eichel
@@Ryan-pp7nn he has had a really bad season. Not putting him there; considering him as All-Star. Not to mention the trade rumours surrounding him
@@leafsfanforever2896 ya but consider all he has done on a awful team like Buffalo he will be insane on another team
@@leafsfanforever2896 also I think u forgot Laine
Laine is very inconsistent; I do not think he will fare well in Columbus
Lafreniere belongs in the Yakupov category, maybe even call it the Lafreniere/Yakupov category after next season where he falls even further into obscurity.
13 mins a night and he turned it up late season and only one season he’s not a bust yet
Ok Red Wings fan, upset you didn’t get Laf the HoF player. He’s gonna be a 100+ point getter. It was his first season, and he didn’t play yet. You are a moron.
@@zibanejad933 Yakupov played 48 games his rookie season and put up 31 points. Lafreniere played 56 played games and put up 21 points... the numbers don't lie. Lafreniere is a confirmed bust! You'd have to be delusional to not see it.
@@zibanejad933 "100+ poinst" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you'll be lucky if he becomes a 50 point player
Laffy is not MEH. He’s Above average. He plays on a stacked team and still finds ways to put up points and make plays. He’ll be a super star once those guys move on.
2:31 Michel Plasse actually was 1st ovr in '68
I d’ont like Stamkos being w Matthews and MacKinnon
d'ont?
Go look at his early career stats and tell me that again. Man had a 60 goal season. He’s above a point per game in his career and captain for a while
He broke his tibia in 2013-14 which is the only reason he wasnt a point per game player the following two seasons. The "inconsistency" Rob's delusional ass was talking about.
@@DammitIvaldi Not to mention he would have 5 richard trophies if it werent for Ovi
Stamkos should be in the hall of fame
Kovalchuk would be in the hall of fame if he didn’t go to the KHL, probably around 600-650 goals had he played in the NHL the whole time and averaged similar numbers. Its too bad.
Lafreniere below Hughes is crazy
I personally, was high on dipi. His contract was ridiculous but I do believe he could’ve been a star if injuries didn’t derail his career.
I'm a Leafs fan, I love Matthews, I think he is an elite goal scorer and probably the best player the Leafs have ever had in their history. That being said, McDavid is on just a completely different level than everyone else in the league, the guy was on a POINT PER PERIOD pace last season.
You absolutely can not put MacKinnon on the superstar level for not having playoff success and then proceed to put McDavid in to the hall of fame. MacKinnon will be in the hall of fame with atleast two cups (with avs) but McDavid won't win a cup atleast as an oiler. I do think they are both hall of fame tier players. But if McDavid doesn't get out of Edmonton he won't win a cup (or has similar playoff succes like until today) and that could keep him out of the hall.
Can you do another tier list!
Auston willl make the hall of fame.
If Edmonton doesn't get McDavid a cup in 5 years, Edmonton will become a disgrace.
How did the Canadians pick that kid in the first they could’ve used there 7th for him
So long as McDavid continues playing for the Oilers, he will NOT win a cup. Definitely premature to put him in the HoF at this point (although he definitely has the potential to go there)
Dude, What??? McDavid could retire today, and go into the HoF.
@@Thathockeybro How tho?? He hasn't won any Stanley Cups. That spot (HoF) is reserved for Cup winners I thought
@@jimbob6270 No, theyre are a LOT of Hall of Famers who haven't won a cup. You dont need one to be in the HoF
You don’t need to win a Stanley cup to get into the hall of fame. It definitely makes it easier, but guys like Adam Oates, Jarome Iginla, Pavel Bure, Dino Ciccarelli, Dale Hawerchuck, Pat Lafontaine, Rod Gilbert, Borje Salming, Peter Stasny, Mike Gartner and many many more have all been inducted into the Hall without a cup. McDavid will easily get into the HoF.
@@MWNolan Thank you
Honestly the NHL has some of the best 1st overall picks, almost no one is on the last 3 out of the entire 2000’s
Then Fleury goes to a team that proves his entire career he's been supported by good goalscoring and that his Vezina is a lifetime achievement award (Vasilevskiy should have gotten it easily but whatever)