Why can't all learning be this fun? The video editing has got to be my favorite part for clarity AND charm and entertainment. The pop culture references are the best. The sloth bit at the end LMAO! Which reminds me of the Los Angeles museum The Museum of Jurassic Technology-they have a whole room for things Kircher. . . . Bravi! This was so fabulous!
this is the best channel that I learn so much about early music. I am so thankful for the informations really. Better than conservatories or academic music schools.
After all these musicologists presented here, it's a great relief to see one that isn't grumpy, full of himself or against everyone else. Riepel sounds like a great guy who understands that composition is more beautiful craftsmanship than divine reason.
what makes a great poem - the film "Dead Poets Society" - Robin Williams telling his students to rip out the preface entitled "Understanding Poetry" - lol - always the Mr. Riepels of this world happy to reduce art to something it is not
"They fill everything with cabbage and turnips" -1752 Goldberg Variations: "Cabbage and turnips have driven me away, had my mother cooked meat, I'd have opted to stay" - 1741 Was this a reference to the famous quodlibet?
Edutainment at its very finest !!! Thank you! Apart from your most interesting content (which explains a lot about pop music as well), I love your visual didactic way! And the cuddly toys in the background: can you tell me the brand of the sloth and the anteater?
Again, so much valuable information. Thank you. Although, I can't help feeling that this sort of analysis with it's unending options and exceptions is a bit like sorting natural chaos into natural chaos. Perhaps CPE, Haydn and Mozart just ignored it all and got on with sublimating beauty and wonder from those formulaic ingredients to make a new, deeper logic - one that perhaps defiles analysis?
Mozart's early style comes from earlier sources like Riepel, Domenico Alberti, and Johann Schobert. Hayden Mozart and late Classical Period composers. Before Haydn and Mozart there was the _Mannheim School_ and before the Mannheim School there was the _Wiener Vorklassik_, and even before this there was the Galant style was already emerging in the early 1700s. You can already clearly hear the early hear the Early Classical style in the music of Georg Monn, Domenico Alberti, and Leonardo Vinci, such as Vinci's overture for _Li Zite 'Ngalera_ from 1722, which is stylistically similar to Mozart's 1781 overture for his opera _Die Entführung aus dem Serail_ . Dominico Alberti Op. 1. No. III from the 1740s also especially sounds like Mozart. Even in Bach BWV 1031 you can hear the early Classical style, especially in the first movement.
@@ajames283 Yes, but that's not my (poorly made ) point. I'm suggesting that Riepel's system/analysis was made after the compositional fact - and therefore fails very miserably. Despite being fascinating. For example - 'even number' phrase lengths were never inherently more satisfying than odd.
@@jamesboyd4912 Regular phrasing comes from dance music. Irregular phrasing is more typical in baroque music as long as it's not dance music. Irregular phrasing is harder to dance to, so it's usually avoided on dance music. Regular phrasing being more "satisfying" is an opinion, so it can't really be "right" or "wrong", and is just the style of the time. If someone prefers music that is more dance-like, predictable, and that has clear sections, then they will probably prefer regular phrasing. In baroque music phrases are irregular and they overlap and flow into each other, so it's frequently not clear where phrases start and end. This is because a lot of baroque music is composed with a technique that is called _fortspinnung_ . If some prefers baroque music, then they probably prefer music that is more flowing and that has _fortspinnung_ . Even though this is a baroque technique, it's also possible to find in music from other eras. Phrasing in baroque music is more ambiguous. Some people don't like this because they are not used to it and they think it sounds strange or "wrong" or jumbled or like "run on sentences", and some people do like this because ambiguity leaves room for interpretation and allows you to interpret the music in a more personal way.
"If you want I have even more useless words"
I have to end my emails like that
This is so good!
Why can't all learning be this fun? The video editing has got to be my favorite part for clarity AND charm and entertainment. The pop culture references are the best. The sloth bit at the end LMAO! Which reminds me of the Los Angeles museum The Museum of Jurassic Technology-they have a whole room for things Kircher. . . . Bravi! This was so fabulous!
Delightful from beginning to end
Hello Thanks for uploading this video. I love Gallant Style, and keeping a note here.
this channel produces gold for the classical music community
That was a fascinating look into simple, pragmatic, and effective composition methods. Thanks
this is the best channel that I learn so much about early music. I am so thankful for the informations really. Better than conservatories or academic music schools.
This channel deserves more likes and subs...
SUCH A WONDERFUL WORK GUYS! YOU'RE TRULY REMARKABLE.
Always eager for more ❤️❤️❤️thank you for being there
Brilliant episode. Very skilled of you to find his structures in a later Mozart piece.
I enjoyed it thoroughly! Amazing job, as usual!
Very good episode! Thank you Early Music Sources. (Also nice to take a little break from polyphony :)
Thanks for the content. Your channel is such an inspiration for music lovers!
NEW EARLY MUSIC SOURCES VIDEO!!!!!!!
Thanks for this!
Wonderful!
This is amazing. Thank you so much 💚
Already in love and I'm just at the theme song.
when i saw dowton abbey pedagogically in tis video I DIED. Thank you Elam, as always,
Thsnk you. The Enlightened was in full swing.
Wonderful video!
Grazie Signore!
Thank you for keep posting new amazing videos
I have the book "Music in the Galant Style" by Robert Gjerdingen which is mentioned a few times in the footnotes to this video
After all these musicologists presented here, it's a great relief to see one that isn't grumpy, full of himself or against everyone else. Riepel sounds like a great guy who understands that composition is more beautiful craftsmanship than divine reason.
Thank you!!
Adoro estes vídeos.
Joseph Riepel seems to have been a pretty funny teacher, hahahaha
For 2025, new course at Schola Cantorum Basiliensis: Solmization in American Sloth style.
This is crazy is was just looking for this kind of bibliography
And in the case of J.S.Bach's Solo in his 5th Brandenburg's Concerto not just the staff but the whole village is also included
Second! Also, GALANT MELODY IS THE BEST
Turnips and Cabbages would be a great name for a composition for students.
what makes a great poem - the film "Dead Poets Society" - Robin Williams telling his students to rip out the preface entitled "Understanding Poetry" - lol - always the Mr. Riepels of this world happy to reduce art to something it is not
huh? Riepel is giving excellent advice for composition here.
"They fill everything with cabbage and turnips" -1752
Goldberg Variations: "Cabbage and turnips have driven me away, had my mother cooked meat, I'd have opted to stay" - 1741
Was this a reference to the famous quodlibet?
Never clicked so fast!
Edutainment at its very finest !!! Thank you!
Apart from your most interesting content (which explains a lot about pop music as well), I love your visual didactic way!
And the cuddly toys in the background: can you tell me the brand of the sloth and the anteater?
Unexpected!
🥳🎉
grat t-shirt too
26:10 With so much influence on other composers, you might say he had caused quite a Riepel-effect in the music world. (I'll see myself out)
I better buckle down. No excuses now.
"If you want, I have even more useless terms."
that's all very well, but where can we get a sloth T-shirt?
אני בדיוק לוקח קורס שמתמקד בספרים של ריפל וקוך אז אני בטח אראה את הסרטון הזה עוד הרבה פעמים
Again, so much valuable information. Thank you. Although, I can't help feeling that this sort of analysis with it's unending options and exceptions is a bit like sorting natural chaos into natural chaos. Perhaps CPE, Haydn and Mozart just ignored it all and got on with sublimating beauty and wonder from those formulaic ingredients to make a new, deeper logic - one that perhaps defiles analysis?
Mozart's early style comes from earlier sources like Riepel, Domenico Alberti, and Johann Schobert. Hayden Mozart and late Classical Period composers.
Before Haydn and Mozart there was the _Mannheim School_ and before the Mannheim School there was the _Wiener Vorklassik_, and even before this there was the Galant style was already emerging in the early 1700s.
You can already clearly hear the early hear the Early Classical style in the music of Georg Monn, Domenico Alberti, and Leonardo Vinci, such as Vinci's overture for _Li Zite 'Ngalera_ from 1722, which is stylistically similar to Mozart's 1781 overture for his opera _Die Entführung aus dem Serail_ . Dominico Alberti Op. 1. No. III from the 1740s also especially sounds like Mozart. Even in Bach BWV 1031 you can hear the early Classical style, especially in the first movement.
@@ajames283 Yes, but that's not my (poorly made ) point. I'm suggesting that Riepel's system/analysis was made after the compositional fact - and therefore fails very miserably. Despite being fascinating. For example - 'even number' phrase lengths were never inherently more satisfying than odd.
@@jamesboyd4912 Regular phrasing comes from dance music. Irregular phrasing is more typical in baroque music as long as it's not dance music. Irregular phrasing is harder to dance to, so it's usually avoided on dance music. Regular phrasing being more "satisfying" is an opinion, so it can't really be "right" or "wrong", and is just the style of the time.
If someone prefers music that is more dance-like, predictable, and that has clear sections, then they will probably prefer regular phrasing. In baroque music phrases are irregular and they overlap and flow into each other, so it's frequently not clear where phrases start and end. This is because a lot of baroque music is composed with a technique that is called _fortspinnung_ . If some prefers baroque music, then they probably prefer music that is more flowing and that has _fortspinnung_ . Even though this is a baroque technique, it's also possible to find in music from other eras.
Phrasing in baroque music is more ambiguous. Some people don't like this because they are not used to it and they think it sounds strange or "wrong" or jumbled or like "run on sentences", and some people do like this because ambiguity leaves room for interpretation and allows you to interpret the music in a more personal way.
This was mostly funny. I am not surprised I never heard about this guy.
This is fascinating!
🦥🦥🦥
Finally, I can put a name to the guy who killed the music that I love, and replaced it with boy bands.
the beatles?
I must say that modulating to the 7b in minor was not that uncommon. I'm sorry for the american sloth 😅
Not the most tuneful sloth examples...