1:25 argenti got the little bit of energy at the start of battle because of his passive which gives him 3 energy whenever a new enemy comes in ( i.e. new wave or boss summon )
Moga, for your harmony charcters, when looking for sphere and body, unless they scale off of something or havent reached the necessary nmbr needed for their scaling, Hp and def is a must have since your charcter will always get hit at some point during batlle. 3k hp with 1k to 2k for Def is very nice for harmony survival ( this honeslty goes for everyone in the game tbh ) since "elemntal dmg" on harmony/abundance and preservation is fairly usless.
@@mandolen3317 bro why does it matter if ur support does 500 more damage you rather have them be more tanky so you don't get 1 shot and not having to heal then 24/7
@@mandolen3317 literally every youtube video talking about how to build will tell you this. Even with sustain, having def and hp will always be better cuz supports dont do enough dmg.
So for your energy tests in the future, you can actually see how much energy characters have by pressing C during combat (when it's your characters turn) , and for reference most energy based ults will not be affected by ERR (currently we only have huo huo and tingyun, but that might change later)
Hey moga, if you've completed the new boulder town event, go to the punching bag in the corner. Then interact with it and you can get a battle with five Silverman lieutenants. Click the first option, then the second, then the third twice, and you can enter a battle where every skill you get 100% energy, and Its full ult spam, and really good DMG test.
I believe the bug doesn't affect how much damage he's doing, rather it affects which enemies he's doing the damage to. So even if the bug is fixed, his damage will stay the same.
I just got back into Honkai so I’m not in the community online at all, but i saw him and immediately wanted him. But my friend said he wouldn’t be good so I was sad, but I pulled for him anywyas and now I keep seeing everyone say he’s actually amazing! I’m glad. I would have still gotten him either way haha
I am new to the game, only a few weeks and was lacking a good dps. Got lucky with Bronya and HouHou and I didn't want to wait for an unknown rerun of Jing Liu. So glad I didn't listen to the midgenti crowd. He advanced my account so much in sim universe. I can start working on a 2nd team now for moc.
Tingyun and Huo Huo buffs I believe are the only ways of gaining energy that ignore your energy regen. So your character will always gain the same amount from their respective buffs regardless if you any additional energy regen
The craziest part is that there was a bug. So hes supposed to be even stronger unless i'm mistaken, also i feel that asta is the most likely pulled then lynx then hanya from my personal pulls
@@fangf7227They don’t disappear but rather they continue to hit the dead enemies, so while the damage number is correct the overall damage dealt to enemies is not.
Hi moga, since you want an extra turn for hanya's buff. try this hack. you should use hanya's burst when your active character is argenti. it kind of adds an extra turn cause the cooldown for the turns active doesn't reduce immediately. hope this helps
I don't know if people noticed this trend of new Honkai Star Rail character releases: Before release: Lot of youtubers say it's easy skip or bad After release: The same youtubers do the 180 and praise how "broken" the character is
Specifically for dps. It was somewhat reverse of that for HuoHuo, when people were saying that she will replace Luocha, but she ended up being somewhat similar to him, in terms of value she brings to the team, but in different areas.
He's basically HSR Eula. When everything lines up his ult is the biggest nuke in the game by a long shot, but it can be tricky to get to that point. Over the course of his whole rotation his damage is not very impressive at all unless you're constantly against 4-5 enemies. I don't have him myself but I play MoC for a friend who has him and he certainly gets the job done, as well as being one of the few DPS that synergizes well with Yukong. My friend's Argenti is built pretty poorly with low crit stats, but he was still landing ~250k ultimates. Obviously this MoC buff is catered toward him hard as well. He'll likely be great in Pure Fiction when there's physical weakness though.
One thing he has over Eula is at least the enemy's can't dodge, and you can time his ult. Playing Eula was frustrating as heck when she one shots hilichurls because the boss moved one inch away 😂
Actually Hanya's ultimate buff can last up to 3 turns if you use her ult when the one your buffing is already their turn. Example: It's Argenti's turn and you use Hanya's ultimate on him the buff is still 2 more turns after Argenti's turn.
Moga, at the end of the day, almost every harmony character buffs soo much attack that running er rope for argenti gives him ult 1 maybe 2 turns earlier (because of his insanely broken trace) so er rope is usually better than attack % rope
Depends on which Harmony units are being used, if you’re using Tingyun then Atk rope is better but if you’re not then ER rope is better. Not going to account for Houhou here but if you run Tingyun/Bronya you will definitely want Atk rope but if you’re running Hanya/Ruan Mei you’d most definitely want ER. It really just comes down to if you’re using Tingyun on his team. Quid Quo Pro also can help a ton since more often than not he’d be the one below 50% energy (since it’s based on his 180 ult).
@@chadachi3970 both tingyun and bronya provide a lot of attack from their talents so er would still be more useful imo. idk what ruan mei does so i can't comment on that, for hanya er nicer and you can spam skill more cause of her skill point refund thing
@@kannankrish1824 The reason why you wouldn't bother with ER with Bronya/Tingyun is because they practically give him more than double the ER gains already, so it's better to just stack more Atk for the better damage scaling. Yes it is a lot of Atk, but since his modifier is so large already there isn't a reason not to stack as much as possible.
Just a heads up his ai for which attack hits who is literally perfect unlike Jing yuan who will bounce around even if there dead wasting a lot of dmg his will only target Alive characters so when he ults if the first aoe slash kills the side enemy's the big 6 hits all target the last Alice
The best argenti team comp is bronya yukong even e0 and huohuo in this comp he slightly hits harder then jingliu all othe comp is slightly less dps then her . If no huohuo just use fuxuan for the crit rate tho . Thank me later your argenti will be hitting the biggest nukes.
Argenti is definitely god mode against large enemy teams, the more adds the more dmg output he can unleash. But I find him not so effective in fights with a single boss
looks more than 60 because his first ult is 90 so the ball looks more full than normal ults, usually ults are like 110-130 so 60 would go more or like to the middle, so thats why u got confuse, but er rope does not change tingyun's ult
My record with e0s0 argenti (4 star bp lc) is 1 cycle in MoC 9 and 4 cycles in MoC 10 with hanya tingyun fu xuan, oh btw u don’t need that much speed on argenti esp if u use bronya/tingyun/hanya on him, with all the buffs mine can get to 160+ even with atk boots (base is 118)
I had been anticipating him for awhile but I forgot to get back on bec of uni. So I saved what I could and actually won my 50/50 AGAIN. Now that I hv Jing Lui and him (plus blade who is why I started playing) idk who I’ll be interested in pulling for now. But yea he’s really fun and crazy strong 💀
at first i was "aw heck no." then he came home in early pull when I was only looking for hanya, n now I'm kneeling on his feet wiping those shiny armors 😭
It depends on what you need. He probably will be useful in the new Pure Fiction game mode, but he has a bit lower damage overall compared to JL/DHIL. Still he is a great character.
Very fun video as always Mauga but the use of “cause any OCD things” was ignorant. Obsessive Compulsive Disorder is one of the most misrepresented ones in media, which lends to the assumption that it’s about being annoyed by imperfections or needing perfection and order. This isn’t the case at all, and many of the things people say are “giving them OCD” are just them having personal tastes unrelated to the disorder. I know language is shaped by how we’ve heard it our whole lives, so I’m not blaming you at all. But moving forward it would be appreciated to not bring up OCD in this way, as it’s just repeating stereotypes that have been built up for decades we really should leave in the past. Again, not blaming Mauga specifically for anyone concerned, just informing him that he used the term incorrectly and it can cause harm even if not intended.
I'm laughing at the last fight because I bring my Pela naked with no relics and wonder why the hell she always died. Anyway I beat it eventually with 3 stars.
I love moga but i watch him for fun and entertainment , not for nonsensical weird and just WRONG tests and "guides", like my man is eyeballing ec pixels when u can just press c and check the exact numbers...... Also a er rope doesn't always mean faster ults. If u don't hit a specific err threshold then u will still need the same amount of turns to get ur ult regardless.
Every source of energy will scale with energy regeneration apart from tinyun ultimate (else she would be too op) Edit: huohuo burdt also does not scale with energy regeneration rate as it is % base
Pls pls get 4 PC Champion because that is his best relic set without a doubt AND get his LC. His signature LC gives 36% crit damage and gives his ultimate damage buff which is better and more than what the S5 cone you have on him is AT S1
Use tingyun with argenti, stop using bronya. If you do want to use bronya you can swap Hanya with her, but the skill point is gonna be harder to manage.. Hanya and Tingyun is a great combo as harmony and Huohuo would be nice cherry on top. Huohuo 20% energy restoration is actually huge for Argenti more than others
How scuffed does your gameplay have to be to not get all MoC stars on a whale account? Then again, Moga's out there innovating on legendary team comps like double Abundance...
Sure, he's strong, but on my Destruction Only account (shameless plug check it out), my totally unbuffed (destruction only means no buffers and healers of course) jingliu does 100-150K every turn against 3 enemies and 90K single target. (She's E1S1 btw), so in reality, unless you can do his ultimate EVERY turn, then he only does around a third of the damage that Jingliu can do. Still very good though. Better than Jing Yuan probably, and especially that CCs don't affect a certain giant thunder god when they shouldn't.
so glad you finally admit it, ABOUT TIMEE THIS WAS LONG OVERDUE
Ganyu burst
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@@dragogaming5164 Ganyu says "This is long overdue" when doing her burst, it's one of the voice lines
really loved the part where Argenti said "it's Argenti time" and dealt argentillion damage to the enemies
The menu In battle when you go to look at buffs and debuffs also shows the exact amount of energy the character has.
1:25 argenti got the little bit of energy at the start of battle because of his passive which gives him 3 energy whenever a new enemy comes in ( i.e. new wave or boss summon )
Moga, for your harmony charcters, when looking for sphere and body, unless they scale off of something or havent reached the necessary nmbr needed for their scaling, Hp and def is a must have since your charcter will always get hit at some point during batlle.
3k hp with 1k to 2k for Def is very nice for harmony survival ( this honeslty goes for everyone in the game tbh ) since "elemntal dmg" on harmony/abundance and preservation is fairly usless.
He stoopid
Lol no😂 get a better sustain and put them to lvl80
@@mandolen3317 bro why does it matter if ur support does 500 more damage you rather have them be more tanky so you don't get 1 shot and not having to heal then 24/7
@@mandolen3317 literally every youtube video talking about how to build will tell you this. Even with sustain, having def and hp will always be better cuz supports dont do enough dmg.
@@scarletregen1265except e6 Yukong lol
Before he came out I see people looking down on this character but pulling him on my other acc is honestly cracked I don't regret it
So for your energy tests in the future, you can actually see how much energy characters have by pressing C during combat (when it's your characters turn) , and for reference most energy based ults will not be affected by ERR (currently we only have huo huo and tingyun, but that might change later)
argenti is so much fun to play im so glad i got him
Yeah. The best erudition. Personal taste, only thing I don't like is his look
Hey moga, if you've completed the new boulder town event, go to the punching bag in the corner. Then interact with it and you can get a battle with five Silverman lieutenants. Click the first option, then the second, then the third twice, and you can enter a battle where every skill you get 100% energy, and Its full ult spam, and really good DMG test.
Bro I saw ketz do that and he feared for his life XD.
The people who laughed at me for wanting Argenti and telling me he'll be mid are quiet now 🤷🏼♀️
Fr. I even have the beautiful rose man triple 10 traces.
@@moodiiperson7474 I prefarmed for him so I had his traces maxed out day 1 lol. Everything for him.🌹
The fact that argenti is hitting that hard with his ult being bugged.
Is it still bugged?
I believe the bug doesn't affect how much damage he's doing, rather it affects which enemies he's doing the damage to. So even if the bug is fixed, his damage will stay the same.
They said he will be stronger when the bug is fixed in 1.6
@@foxfox4339all I’m hearing is free stellar jade for compensation
@@gameb9oy Ikr? more bugs are good if it means free jades.
Argenti is the embodiment of beauty
Just like his beloved Polynne
I just got back into Honkai so I’m not in the community online at all, but i saw him and immediately wanted him. But my friend said he wouldn’t be good so I was sad, but I pulled for him anywyas and now I keep seeing everyone say he’s actually amazing! I’m glad. I would have still gotten him either way haha
u can check the exact amount of energy they have in battle when checking stats
Argenti is the Jing Yuan we all deserved ...
I am new to the game, only a few weeks and was lacking a good dps. Got lucky with Bronya and HouHou and I didn't want to wait for an unknown rerun of Jing Liu. So glad I didn't listen to the midgenti crowd. He advanced my account so much in sim universe. I can start working on a 2nd team now for moc.
Tingyun and Huo Huo buffs I believe are the only ways of gaining energy that ignore your energy regen. So your character will always gain the same amount from their respective buffs regardless if you any additional energy regen
Managed to do 470k on MoC today. That's kinda nuts to see those kinds of numbers outside of sim universe.
Where are you Argenti doomposters now, huh?
The craziest part is that there was a bug. So hes supposed to be even stronger unless i'm mistaken, also i feel that asta is the most likely pulled then lynx then hanya from my personal pulls
Ye there is a bug with his 180 ult the extra hits just disappear, apparently this will be fixed sometime soon.
@@fangf7227They don’t disappear but rather they continue to hit the dead enemies, so while the damage number is correct the overall damage dealt to enemies is not.
Tingyun and Huohuo's energy given is not scalable with ER ropes. Everything else in a characters kit is though.
hes doing this damage and hes bugged right now
Hi moga, since you want an extra turn for hanya's buff. try this hack. you should use hanya's burst when your active character is argenti. it kind of adds an extra turn cause the cooldown for the turns active doesn't reduce immediately. hope this helps
I don't know if people noticed this trend of new Honkai Star Rail character releases:
Before release: Lot of youtubers say it's easy skip or bad
After release: The same youtubers do the 180 and praise how "broken" the character is
Specifically for dps. It was somewhat reverse of that for HuoHuo, when people were saying that she will replace Luocha, but she ended up being somewhat similar to him, in terms of value she brings to the team, but in different areas.
He's basically HSR Eula. When everything lines up his ult is the biggest nuke in the game by a long shot, but it can be tricky to get to that point. Over the course of his whole rotation his damage is not very impressive at all unless you're constantly against 4-5 enemies. I don't have him myself but I play MoC for a friend who has him and he certainly gets the job done, as well as being one of the few DPS that synergizes well with Yukong. My friend's Argenti is built pretty poorly with low crit stats, but he was still landing ~250k ultimates. Obviously this MoC buff is catered toward him hard as well. He'll likely be great in Pure Fiction when there's physical weakness though.
One thing he has over Eula is at least the enemy's can't dodge, and you can time his ult. Playing Eula was frustrating as heck when she one shots hilichurls because the boss moved one inch away 😂
at first I didn't know how to use him so I kept using his burst when the flower was closed.
Actually Hanya's ultimate buff can last up to 3 turns if you use her ult when the one your buffing is already their turn.
Example: It's Argenti's turn and you use Hanya's ultimate on him the buff is still 2 more turns after Argenti's turn.
You can check the er in battle if you check the stats
Dan heng team wasnt doing much dmg since the enemy has high imaginary res
Moga, at the end of the day, almost every harmony character buffs soo much attack that running er rope for argenti gives him ult 1 maybe 2 turns earlier (because of his insanely broken trace) so er rope is usually better than attack % rope
Depends on which Harmony units are being used, if you’re using Tingyun then Atk rope is better but if you’re not then ER rope is better. Not going to account for Houhou here but if you run Tingyun/Bronya you will definitely want Atk rope but if you’re running Hanya/Ruan Mei you’d most definitely want ER.
It really just comes down to if you’re using Tingyun on his team.
Quid Quo Pro also can help a ton since more often than not he’d be the one below 50% energy (since it’s based on his 180 ult).
@@chadachi3970 both tingyun and bronya provide a lot of attack from their talents so er would still be more useful imo. idk what ruan mei does so i can't comment on that, for hanya er nicer and you can spam skill more cause of her skill point refund thing
@@kannankrish1824 The reason why you wouldn't bother with ER with Bronya/Tingyun is because they practically give him more than double the ER gains already, so it's better to just stack more Atk for the better damage scaling. Yes it is a lot of Atk, but since his modifier is so large already there isn't a reason not to stack as much as possible.
@@kannankrish1824 Idk bro, more atk more dmg too
@@Dynamight_01 more ults = more dmg
I have 68 pity and guarantee, farming for him like 3 days now (i had max reserved tb power) probably going to max righ after getting Him 😊
Just a heads up his ai for which attack hits who is literally perfect unlike Jing yuan who will bounce around even if there dead wasting a lot of dmg his will only target Alive characters so when he ults if the first aoe slash kills the side enemy's the big 6 hits all target the last Alice
The best argenti team comp is bronya yukong even e0 and huohuo in this comp he slightly hits harder then jingliu all othe comp is slightly less dps then her . If no huohuo just use fuxuan for the crit rate tho . Thank me later your argenti will be hitting the biggest nukes.
Tingyun er doesn't change with er rope. She just gives flat 50 otherwise it would be broken.
I tried to go for e4 Hanya... Ended up with E2 Argenti and E1 Hanya lol.
Argenti is definitely god mode against large enemy teams, the more adds the more dmg output he can unleash. But I find him not so effective in fights with a single boss
My OCD won’t get-
A few seconds later
*Sigh*
0:26 btw
He exceeded all of my expectations and im super happy I got him. He's a must pull if u dont have jingliu/imbibitor lunae
looks more than 60 because his first ult is 90 so the ball looks more full than normal ults, usually ults are like 110-130 so 60 would go more or like to the middle, so thats why u got confuse, but er rope does not change tingyun's ult
Yes he is very incredible
He is good if you like to spam ultimates which I bet most of you would like to see.
Tingyun's ult energy regen does not scale with ERR. Nor does Huohuo's
I got him on my first try ❤ and he's worth it
My all time favorite character, carried me through my first MoC 10 W! :D
Damn DHIL looks underwhelming compared to Argenti. LOL
you can see your exact energy mid battle in the stats window no need to eyeball it
You dont need an er ult. He still gets it super fast and you can one rotation everything.
Also, you should be using the physical set...
Is he worth pulling for?
My record with e0s0 argenti (4 star bp lc) is 1 cycle in MoC 9 and 4 cycles in MoC 10 with hanya tingyun fu xuan, oh btw u don’t need that much speed on argenti esp if u use bronya/tingyun/hanya on him, with all the buffs mine can get to 160+ even with atk boots (base is 118)
2:03
Someone tell moga that ults costs roughly 100 energy on average so missing 1 energy is like 1 pixel lols.
I had been anticipating him for awhile but I forgot to get back on bec of uni. So I saved what I could and actually won my 50/50 AGAIN. Now that I hv Jing Lui and him (plus blade who is why I started playing) idk who I’ll be interested in pulling for now. But yea he’s really fun and crazy strong 💀
Yes enjoy my mans argenti
After losing the 50/50 to E1 Bailu..it hurts 😭😭
Do you even know that you can check how much energy your character has exactly by pressing C?
Uhmmm, i just did 20pulls and got argenti and hanya and another argenti in the same pull, so did i use my luck for like 30+ banners?
If you use hanya go with atk boots.
at first i was "aw heck no." then he came home in early pull when I was only looking for hanya, n now I'm kneeling on his feet wiping those shiny armors 😭
I'm so happy that I used my guaranteed to get him
0:35 if those talents are god mode then mine must be like idk Milky Way mode 😭😭
Lost to Himeko on his banner for the second time in a row 🙃
Proud that my argenti hit 670k
I mean his 180 ult is still great in single target because the bounces all attacking just one target… why would it be bad
so.... "god mode" is level 8 traces? what's 10? super god mode?
Touch some grass mode
First character got buff after release
Should I pull for Argenti or wait for the rerun of imbibitor or Jingliu?
pull sparkle
It depends on what you need. He probably will be useful in the new Pure Fiction game mode, but he has a bit lower damage overall compared to JL/DHIL. Still he is a great character.
@@roxas5071 I need a dps 😭 I only have jingjuan and no silver wolf
@@Emlin06 fym "i dont have a dps" you have qq silly she came free with your hsr
@@Emlin06 do dps silver wolf
*cries in snipesE2in30pulls*
First ten pull when I came back to hsr i got argenti and yanqing xd
I wonder.. did you not know about the 6 random hits before testing? Cuz in single target scenarios thoose hits can be deadly
this is par for the course with his videos a lot of the time lol
came back to hsr after 1.2 pulled got e1 argenti and silver wolf
gg
I wished 60 times for when LYnx first came out and I didnt get her in 60 wishs.
2 weeks later all late stage MOC having pyshical weakness
Very fun video as always Mauga but the use of “cause any OCD things” was ignorant. Obsessive Compulsive Disorder is one of the most misrepresented ones in media, which lends to the assumption that it’s about being annoyed by imperfections or needing perfection and order. This isn’t the case at all, and many of the things people say are “giving them OCD” are just them having personal tastes unrelated to the disorder. I know language is shaped by how we’ve heard it our whole lives, so I’m not blaming you at all. But moving forward it would be appreciated to not bring up OCD in this way, as it’s just repeating stereotypes that have been built up for decades we really should leave in the past. Again, not blaming Mauga specifically for anyone concerned, just informing him that he used the term incorrectly and it can cause harm even if not intended.
I'm laughing at the last fight because I bring my Pela naked with no relics and wonder why the hell she always died. Anyway I beat it eventually with 3 stars.
I love moga but i watch him for fun and entertainment , not for nonsensical weird and just WRONG tests and "guides", like my man is eyeballing ec pixels when u can just press c and check the exact numbers......
Also a er rope doesn't always mean faster ults. If u don't hit a specific err threshold then u will still need the same amount of turns to get ur ult regardless.
He's the literal definition of a casual, which can be frustrating but it is quite refreshing from the other more meta savvy TH-camrs.
Argenti really power creep jingyuan so hard😂
Every source of energy will scale with energy regeneration apart from tinyun ultimate (else she would be too op)
Edit: huohuo burdt also does not scale with energy regeneration rate as it is % base
Pls pls get 4 PC Champion because that is his best relic set without a doubt AND get his LC. His signature LC gives 36% crit damage and gives his ultimate damage buff which is better and more than what the S5 cone you have on him is AT S1
170 pulls for e6 hanya a d e0 argenti for me i want to cry
Use tingyun with argenti, stop using bronya. If you do want to use bronya you can swap Hanya with her, but the skill point is gonna be harder to manage.. Hanya and Tingyun is a great combo as harmony and Huohuo would be nice cherry on top. Huohuo 20% energy restoration is actually huge for Argenti more than others
OLA ER rope on him is bad, he gains more energy when E more enemy, just build him with speed
i didnt pull him because he was good. i pulled him because he was funny af
Its bothering me that moga isn’t getting his weapon ik its not that much increased dps BUT QINGQUES WEAPON LOOKS SO BAD ON HIM 😢😢😢
6:06 why did moga turn European 😭💀
lowkey tho, he's strong
His ULT is actually bugged. Because even if there's only one enemy sometimes the 6 bounces hits dead enemies. Mihoyo is fixing it on 1.6
where r those who called him midgenti??
Just here to say I told you so. All of you content creators were wrong about him.
Moga, it's OCPD not OCD
"finish this man"... Moga.. word your sentences better please 😭
Finally
How scuffed does your gameplay have to be to not get all MoC stars on a whale account? Then again, Moga's out there innovating on legendary team comps like double Abundance...
kok
Chivalry is ded
Sure, he's strong, but on my Destruction Only account (shameless plug check it out), my totally unbuffed (destruction only means no buffers and healers of course) jingliu does 100-150K every turn against 3 enemies and 90K single target. (She's E1S1 btw), so in reality, unless you can do his ultimate EVERY turn, then he only does around a third of the damage that Jingliu can do. Still very good though. Better than Jing Yuan probably, and especially that CCs don't affect a certain giant thunder god when they shouldn't.
EARLYYY❤❤❤
Cuphead
first😅