How to Learn Tactics 1

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  • @bigcaptainschannel
    @bigcaptainschannel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Best advice ever regarding studying tactics. I used to study too many tactics at one. Now I am a Senior Citizen and I study tactics and endgame to keep my mind active. Good way to exercise my mind.

    • @chesscomdpruess
      @chesscomdpruess  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed, I use it for exercise just like you now :)

  • @althompson3085
    @althompson3085 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rather unique perspective. This will help.

  • @MSKChess
    @MSKChess 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Amazing video, this deserves way more views.

    • @chesscomdpruess
      @chesscomdpruess  8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      well, it was only a few hours old when you saw it :D

    • @MSKChess
      @MSKChess 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey I tried this and I still have two puzzles I failed yesterday in my head! thanks man!

    • @chesscomdpruess
      @chesscomdpruess  8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Good, good. Over time you'll have tons of them in your passive memory-- meaning you aren't going over them again and again in your head, or even able to set them up to show a friend. But when you encounter a position with the same pattern, it will simply pop into your head, without you even looking for tactics.

    • @MSKChess
      @MSKChess 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its so simple and yet so practical. :D

    • @HumphreyKing
      @HumphreyKing 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've watched videos with 40,000 views that weren't as helpful. David is the best.

  • @blake112x
    @blake112x 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi David - I'm a beginner (between 900 to 1000). And just found your videos. They have been very helpful and I wanted to say thank you. I hope you continue to make more chess content in the future.

  • @jkp17
    @jkp17 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was such a good instructional! Thank you!

  • @juniorelisio
    @juniorelisio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One the best videos that i ever seen, thats make a lot of sense!

  • @PenguinjitsuX
    @PenguinjitsuX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I played chess for a few years back when I was a kid, but recently some friends and I have started getting into playing chess with each other for fun. This guide was so amazing to help me understand how to get better! Thanks for the great video. Now I shall watch the next tactics 2 video for this.

    • @chesscomdpruess
      @chesscomdpruess  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      you're welcome :) sounds like you're having a great time!

  • @exelmans8855
    @exelmans8855 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    “ you cannot make it out with a Saturday night chess binge “ real truth.

  • @emregeylani
    @emregeylani 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi David, liked this idea a lot! thanks for helping us patzers to get better.

    • @chesscomdpruess
      @chesscomdpruess  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you're welcome; wishing you great fun in chess :)

  • @edd338
    @edd338 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This vid is great. I would love to see more like this in addition to the work you're doing in the dojo!

  • @ThanosSofroniou
    @ThanosSofroniou 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video David once again. Thanks a lot for helping us out

  • @malegupta8404
    @malegupta8404 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    outstanding explanations by you david sir thankyou so much for this valuable information great job

  • @KeepChessSimple
    @KeepChessSimple 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just found this channel. Very nice lessons! Thank you so much.

  • @jordiperellogelabert1770
    @jordiperellogelabert1770 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks David! Great stuff!

  • @AlexSosaBolivia
    @AlexSosaBolivia 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a very useful lesson David, thank you. I'm getting to the point where going over these patterns in my head is almost a form of meditation.

  • @angel_machariel
    @angel_machariel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    About number of tactics on a website, notice that on ChessTempo they have researched how much of an improvement members gain. It turns out improvement after 4000 tactics puzzles sharply decrease. For elderly people improvement after solving 4000 puzzles comes almost entirely to an halt.
    Therefore practicing properly from the get-go strikes me as extremely important.

    • @ferlou2373
      @ferlou2373 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That was an artefact of the ChessTempo algorithm.

    • @ferlou2373
      @ferlou2373 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Users kept on improving!

    • @angel_machariel
      @angel_machariel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ferlou2373 What does that mean? What is your source for this?

    • @ferlou2373
      @ferlou2373 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I posted a link with my source, but it seems that comment didn't make it through the YT spam filter (probably as a result of the link).
      Search for "Long term tactics solving improvement - Is it possible?" and Google will guide you to a statistical analysis from ChessTempo on this topic.
      A quote from said post elaborating on what I mean by statistical artefact from the Chesstempo algorithm:
      "A topic that comes up fairly often on the forum (and external blogs) is how much it is possible to improve over an extended period of problem solving. Some believe that it is very uncommon to improve after the first 4000-5000 problems. Some believe most people (or rather most adults) plateau in the 1000-4000 problem range, with some initial improvement, and none after that. In the past this was an easy impression to form, as the very high volume solvers' rating graphs often showed long plateaus or even declines. However it was clear that duplicate reward reduction was a big factor in these cases. The fact that duplicate reward reduction started to become a serious issue after around the 4000 problem mark when duplicates become much more common is certainly no co-incidence. Essentially, reward reduction was masking improvement in many users. With some users seeing the same problem many times, and therefore receiving very little reward for correct answers, but full punishment for incorrect responses, it is no wonder some of these high volume users were having trouble increasingly their rating, especially if they had poor explicit memory of the solutions to problems they had seen before."

    • @artbyrobot1
      @artbyrobot1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ferlou2373 even in this discussion, this assumes the user only does rated puzzles up to their max rating ie every puzzle is super hard. But if they do variety of difficulty puzzles by doing unrated puzzles and setting custom difficulty level, they can continue to pattern recognition train having no metric to measure improvement other than chess games rating going up

  • @althompson3085
    @althompson3085 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just signed up for Dojo last night. Hope to figure out the links.

  • @jokmenen_
    @jokmenen_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The running around the board part at 15:47 made me chuckle

  • @alexf0101
    @alexf0101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks 👍 I'm going back to basics

  • @6Uncles
    @6Uncles 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:24 | Is Chess Tempo tactics trainer no longer free for selecting tactical motifs? I think it might cost a membership now to do that

    • @chesscomdpruess
      @chesscomdpruess  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, I'm sorry but I have no idea. Have not used chesstempo in ages.

  • @ChessskillBlogspot
    @ChessskillBlogspot 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like stripping all the extraneous pieces from positions in games and presenting these to students who need to learn these basic patterns.

    • @chesscomdpruess
      @chesscomdpruess  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i've seen that done before, and i can remember using it with some students myself in the past. the way i did it, i'd set up a few positions, gradually adding more pieces into the position once they knew the basic pattern, and see if they could still recognize it. i don't have enough experience with this approach to vouch for its efficacy.

    • @ChessskillBlogspot
      @ChessskillBlogspot 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yesterday, on chessdotcom, I saw a position that had a Black king and pawn and a White rook. There was a question to identify the game from this small clue. The answer, of course, was the last tie-break in the Karjakin -- Carlsen match.
      I found rapid and dramatic improvement with a couple of students who were using Bruce Pandolfini, Beginning Chess, where all of the diagreams have ten pieces or fewer. I composed nearly 150 similar exercises and put them on worksheets that I could photocopy at the schools where I ran clubs. I have 150 exercises, but a little more than a dozen are standard endgame positions, and one is the problem composed by Paul Morphy. I think they are useful. I've been using them four years.
      I explain my process in more detail at chessskill.blogspot.com/2017/03/writing-and-publishing.html

  • @loot6
    @loot6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    21:35 Can find the solution to the complex puzzle but can't find the give up button lol.

  • @yc2560
    @yc2560 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video. But is there a free tactics trainer where you can set the rating range? The only free one i know is chesstempo and it doesn't have that feature.

    • @chesscomdpruess
      @chesscomdpruess  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't know either then. Maybe you can just keep your rating low by getting problems wrong on purpose, and then get assigned puzzles around that rating. Also, my suggestion of giving up after 30-60 seconds should help keep your rating down.

    • @Socialdogma
      @Socialdogma 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is a shareware application called "YATT" which stands for Yet Another Tactics Trainer. The guy who programmed it is Fred Mellender and from what I can tell he's a programmer and chess enthusiast. He has a user guide and youtube video on how to use YATT. I have not used YATT much at all, but he claims to have about 5000 puzzles which can be presented in random order or by easiest first. Maybe if you use YATT you can try the easiest puzzles first parameter.

    • @chesscomdpruess
      @chesscomdpruess  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds like an option worth investigating for those looking for something free.

    • @yc2560
      @yc2560 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks guys.

    • @douwehuysmans5959
      @douwehuysmans5959 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lichess has tons of puzzles

  • @nvd2111
    @nvd2111 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great, but do u think 3 puzzles each day is a little slow. I mean it takes years to learn just some basic patterns. How do u think about 7 circles of de la Maza?

    • @chesscomdpruess
      @chesscomdpruess  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      3 per day is a bit slow, but my understanding is you can't absorb much more than that. So just don't miss a day :-)
      I've never heard of the 7 circles of de la maza.

    • @nvd2111
      @nvd2111 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      de la Maza is an author of "Rapid Chess Improvement". His method of training tactic is called 7 circles. His method is basically collect 2000 puzzles then solve them 7 times, each time cut off time to solve them like first time 2' second time 1' and etc.Dan Heisman also recommend this method to his students, too

    • @chesscomdpruess
      @chesscomdpruess  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ah, that makes some sense. is there supposed to be a break between the 7 times you come around to it? you see in my method i suggest going through the puzzles several times the first time you see it, and then i'm thinking you'll hold onto it as a tool in your subconscious.

    • @Socialdogma
      @Socialdogma 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Now the trick is to scientifically choose the "correct" 2000 puzzles to study.

    • @nvd2111
      @nvd2111 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because the set includes 2000 puzzles so when u get back to the first one maybe u forget it maybe u not but the thing is the first 3 circles is to improve calculation skills, the last 4 circles is to improve pattern recognition. In de le Maza book, he used CT-ART 4.0 to solve. A lot of puzzles from this software are not basic patterns but I think the method still works though. Dan Heisman recommends his students go through John Bain " Chess Tactics for Students" at least 7 times also until they can solve all of puzzles just by recognition (under 10s/puzzle or even instantly without thinking at all)

  • @toequantumspace
    @toequantumspace 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    About the puzzles creation, I have manages to set up a new (at least for me) way to collect chess puzzles.
    1. I installed scid vs. pc scidvspc.sourceforge.net/ on my Ubuntu
    2. I added to scid a Stockfish engine
    3. I downloaded and added some game databases. My own games, some master games collections, so now I have roughly 200k games in scid
    4. I batch annotated a database with scid and Stockfish, marking search for tactical moves (in Stockfish->Annotate window, Batch and Mark Tactical marked)
    5. I waited, time depends on the database size
    6. After this, I have a collection of puzzles, I can solve them from scid with Find best move
    Puzzles from my own games are the funniest :)

    • @chesscomdpruess
      @chesscomdpruess  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      i don't know how to use SCID but that sounds awesome, and especially fun to do the ones from your own games, as you say.

    • @toequantumspace
      @toequantumspace 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's nothing hard - use the link to install, and Stockfish is also very simple to install. If you encounter any problems, let me know, I'll try to help. I have a main database I created from interned sources with over 700.000 Master games, it works very quickly. For example - I can play out the beginning of my own game and see all games from master database with my current position, and the opening tree as well. SCID vs. PC is my only chess software. It's free as well. It works on Windows too.

    • @toequantumspace
      @toequantumspace 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      David Pruess on lichess there is a similar functionality to improve on own games, guess move when you made a mistake, but in scid I have more control, fir example find only big blunders i.e. over 5 pawns loss etc.

    • @chesscomdpruess
      @chesscomdpruess  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      very cool!

    • @clsxalghazanth3757
      @clsxalghazanth3757 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where did you dl the master games db ?

  • @KeepChessSimple
    @KeepChessSimple 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Any advice on how long/how many times spend on books like strategy, endgame and annotated game books?

    • @chesscomdpruess
      @chesscomdpruess  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tons of advice, and it depends tons on the specific player. Nothing too much I can tell you quickly in a comment without knowing you; I'll just say: so long as you enjoy it, the more time you spend, the better you'll get at any of those areas. Also, the quality of the book is important, so find good authors. (polugaevsky, kasparov, seirawan, nimzovich, alekhine, botvinnik...)

  • @Sheltonism
    @Sheltonism 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I noticed that you didn't mention CT-Art software. Is this dated, or just not your preference? Personally I love it - the original 3.0 is best IMHO. But obviously it isn't mobile device friendly.

    • @chesscomdpruess
      @chesscomdpruess  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've just never used it, so I can't speak for it.

    • @acooldude0
      @acooldude0 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's actually very mobile friendly. There are tons of CT-Art apps under the name of Chess King; they are usually a few dollars a piece, but most have at least several hundred, and up to a few thousand tactics. They also have one for CT-Art 4.0

  • @charliesilva1220
    @charliesilva1220 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am improving on puzzles, now to be able to recognize when it happens in game.

    • @chesscomdpruess
      @chesscomdpruess  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      that is the subject of "How to Learn Tactics 2" th-cam.com/video/SFl6WABqgC0/w-d-xo.html

  • @ostapbender7528
    @ostapbender7528 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Thanks!

  • @toequantumspace
    @toequantumspace 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks, good lesson. My main problem: i dont know whats there, a mate? a piece capture? I keep solving :)

    • @artbyrobot1
      @artbyrobot1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      you can set up custom puzzles and set category to be only mates or only piece captures which may help you to know what to look for easier while still farming pattern recognition gains but easier and more time efficient this way

  • @exelmans8855
    @exelmans8855 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this vid.

  • @reubenr1143
    @reubenr1143 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here after finding the Chess Dojo channel. What if the tactic requires a defensive move to stop a check winning check that my opponent would give. Would it violate this idea to take longer like 3 minutes?

    • @chesscomdpruess
      @chesscomdpruess  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, even if there is a defensive move, that doesn't change anything about the habits you should apply to learning tactics.

    • @reubenr1143
      @reubenr1143 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chesscomdpruess Understood. Thanks for the video. I learned a lot

  • @IanZainea1990
    @IanZainea1990 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question: If I want to practice with a physical chessboard, would you recommend just using lichess, chesstempo, chess.com puzzles and setting up the position on the board? Or using book? Or just don't do that and stick to online?

    • @chesscomdpruess
      @chesscomdpruess  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It will cost you quite a significant slow-down to set up positions on a board, but if that's what you want to do, then yes, you will probably still want to use those sites as a source of tons of puzzles.

    • @artbyrobot1
      @artbyrobot1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did 200 puzzles in an hour. Over the board I'd get nowhere near that for time spent. There's an opportunity cost to OTB. Just to consider. I agree OTB practice is needed though for the 2d to 3d learning aspect though.

  • @lionsskyblue442
    @lionsskyblue442 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    great info, thanks

  • @ravikiran2752
    @ravikiran2752 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do more and more like this types of videos

  • @CharlesAJazz
    @CharlesAJazz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great, thanks!

  • @Pouya..
    @Pouya.. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It was so educational thanx

    • @chesscomdpruess
      @chesscomdpruess  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      glad you liked it :)

    • @Pouya..
      @Pouya.. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chesscomdpruess 🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @malegupta8404
    @malegupta8404 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    dear sir why do you leave chess you are an im??you can also achive gm norms??

    • @chesscomdpruess
      @chesscomdpruess  8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      it's complicated. to try to put it into one sentence: when i stopped playing professionally it was because I thought I could contribute a lot more as a teacher and content director (at chess.com) than as a player.

    • @malegupta8404
      @malegupta8404 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      okk sir thankyou so much for your time you are doing great as a teacher i respect your decision a lot of players like anand ivanchuk never supports chess teaching or its promotion

  • @ravikiran2752
    @ravikiran2752 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks

  • @ΠαρασκευαςΚούτσικος-σ9θ
    @ΠαρασκευαςΚούτσικος-σ9θ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    can someone hel pif there is a board editor in chess.com?

    • @chesscomdpruess
      @chesscomdpruess  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      In live chess, in the play tab, there's a little chessboard icon with a drop-down menu you can click on to select a variant like 960 3check bughouse... and the final option is "Analysis Board." That's what I use.

  • @richardsrensen4219
    @richardsrensen4219 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    good video i like the approach its not about how clever you are but to focus on what you dont know! : so i am not able to solve this thats great then you lean somthing new !!

  • @Caesarnr93
    @Caesarnr93 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    great vid

  • @christooss
    @christooss 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn't know Purge had a brother that makes chess videos for noobs.

  • @Buranazi
    @Buranazi 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hard to believe one couldn't learn more than 3 patterns a day. Pretty sure many have kids have like Xiong Jeffery

    • @chesscomdpruess
      @chesscomdpruess  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      everyone has different capacities, so I'm sure you're right. But everyone has some kind of limit, so I'm pretty confident that doing a small amount of consistent learning each day is superior to inconsistent binges from which one will remember little.