I *really* wish they’d make updates clearer, like with lcd-2 vs lcd-2.2 etc., because this makes the used market a minefield. But great to see they’re updating things none the less.
@@MadLustEnvyyou sure the new pads on these don't effect the sound? He has talked at length about the 2016 version of the LCD2 so you are wrong to say he's coming from a pre fazor, even if thats the one he actually owns.
@@En_Joshi-Godrez the pads are the one of the only parts of a headphone that undergoes wear and tear and needs to be replaced throughout its lifetime. If you buy the newest pad, you get the “newest” version.
The setting of this video is really cool. Sitting cozy in a hut on the countryside comparing headphones while its raining outside sounds like a nice holiday.
I love the vibe of this video! Resting in that cozy cabin on a rainy day, while listening to music through my beloved headphones ... (and watch at that weird horse lol)
Requesting a horse review following same format: initial impressions, build quality, subjective experience, objective measurements, and comparison to other horses in the range 😜
Thanks DMS. There was an episode of Headphone Mysteries on TV that had a cabin just like that. Forensic analysis founded traces of earwax splatter on all four walls. Maximum shakeage test perhaps? 🤔
This revision has been out for a few years. Also to note is that the current version also has the felt spacer between the pad and driver, a la LCD-4. Driver failures haven't been an issue for a while now, but it is all but solved for current versions.
With so many new and updated Audeze headphones introduced relatively recently, these two, the -MX4, -4z, -500, and the -5, it would seem that an overview of the entire Audeze product line might be a good idea. Maybe throw in the HD800s and Diana TC as relevant flagship reference headphones (for those looking for mix engineer, neutral and detailed sound, rather than euphonic effects). Great review!
thanks for the great quick review in what seems like a perfect location to get lost in Audeze heaven. I recently tried and then purchased the LCD-3. Do you remember what EQ these benifitted from. Im using a Mojo 2 to EQ with so can only adjust 20,120hz and 3 and 20khz bands. Any advice appreciated
It's one of those hifi horses that come around when you listen to hifi gear. I am followed by one too he's always looking at me from my window, even though I'm on the 25th floor.
Heard the MM500s last year at CanJam Chicago & the MM100s this year at AXPONA; I was impressed with both, but they're definitely a departure from the typical "Audeze house sound" that you get with these two. Hopefully the new LCD2 & 3s are at this year's CanJam, but looking at the measurements as a female vocal enthusiast I'm not sure these will be for me. We'll see...
@@MadLustEnvy You can go be the pedantic with DMS then because he said they were “new/newer” literally in the title & in the video. Regardless of how new or old sonically they are I’m still looking forward to the fit & finish changes.
It’s very rare I see a review that reflects my personal experience regarding a product, as we know there are variables involve like cable, amp, dac, source and personal taste, etc but this one is a 👍👍 for what it’s worth 😀
Thanks, I've been waiting for measurements of the 2021 LCD-2 for some time now. Although I try to EQ by ear, it is super helpful to be able to compare my findings with objective measurements. I will definitely run it through AutoEQ. Do you publish the measurements somewhere in a text file? I have looked for a database of headphone show measurements but didn't find anything. It would be very convenient to have a central database of all your measurements.
hi dms. are you or someone from the headphone show going to be doing a review of the audeze mm100 before it is officially released to the public? also wanted to see if the sony mdr mv1 headphone could also possibly be reviewed since both headphones are exactly the same price. thanks.
@@hartyewh1 Have you been able to make a side-by-side comparison of the two (both using EQ)? I'm curious because I'm currently debating buying either of the two headphones.
@@klemenspichler400 Unfortunately not side by side, but with a 20min space in between. The design and perhaps smoother highs that are easier to EQ are benefits, but beyond that I couldn't find any real improvement. Inwas hoping for something between the LCD-X and LCD-5, but found, imo, just a sidegrade for a much higher price. Getting an LCD-5 now because of it ;)
@@En_Joshi-Godrez Not exactly no. Ive heard both one directly after the other Im sure you can find stuff better about the MM500, but it's quite a bit more expensive for a headphone that isnt unquestionably better. Also if you have an LCD X 2021, the clamp and fit is much much improved, so its not like youre comparing one uncomfortable headphone to a comfortable one. MM500 weighs less, but thats where my "no doubt improvements" stop
I had an old pair (made in 2013) of LCD-2's. no fazor. So good. Definitely not neutral, but could take almost any EQ you want to run. I have headphones that do almost everything the LCD-2 does, but better yet the LCD-2's were my daily. They just sound more musical to me.
Right now i think these are the best bang for your buck high resolving Planars, as crazy and frankly as sad as that might sound. Both Audeze and Hifiman, even DCA could well offer something cheaper, but they just don't. The Nano's are close, and the other Planars that really impressed me though certainly are are a shave off the LCD 2's are the Verums, I could see myself settling for both them, and I was lucky enough to find a 3 year old pair of these for only $650, it has been far and away the best money i've spent in Audio since (and I own a chord mojo!). Yes, they need EQ (at least to mimic Harmon) and if I were to pedantically pinpoint a flaw it's a light sizzle or energy to the high mids, but they are so close to perfect it's no surprise you see 10 year old beat up pairs everywhere.
So are these revered to as the 2023 revisions? At what serial numbers did they start with both models? I'm guessing a headfi thread will sow this if it hasn't already. The lcd 4 still worth it these days? Don't expect a revision on that I'm guessing? The lcd 5 is tuned oddly compared to other lcd models. Thanks!
Can you do a video about replacement earpads and from where people should buy new ones ? My 58x pads are getting squished and worn out, I tried replacing them with others made from 3rd party companies but the sound changes too much, ones with sift memory foam add a lot of bass/ambience to every sound, while others just add muddy bass For now I'll use the origin pads until someone starts making ones close to the original
@@Vektorion They might not for the 58x specifically, but I'm almost positive the pads are the same as the 600/650/6XX pads, which sennheiser does sell.
You mentioned putting the vegan pads on the LCD3, I've got the Brainwavz XL suede pads on the current LCD3 and it makes them quite a bit warmer almost too much but it does make a perfect alternative to my Arya V2's which I find slightly to much on some music. The brainwavz also have a much larger ear opening and this increases the soundstage quite a bit to a point where they almost match the Arya's, but tonally they're good ying and yang phones set up like this and running off a quality hybrid tube setup.
I just returned my LCD3 and kept my Arya Stealth. The LCD3 is just too heavy. Yes it sounds and looks great but not enough to justify its weight. If you need something with good bass with same Audeze frequency response, go for an IEM.
I got the LCD3 and HD800s. Recently I got the Audio-Technica ATH-WP900 closed back. It amazing that this closed back is something different. You can demo it for a try. 😊
I wonder what the technical differences are between the Lcd2 and Lcd3? The price is double up. But I have no clue what the differences are except that the Lcd3 are 100 ohms and the Lcd2 are a 70 ohm design. But what are the technical claims of superiority? If anyone knows please explain 😃
The LCD 3 is like the Hifiman Ananda Stealth. The LCD 2 and Hifiman Subdara are the real good budget option, the LCD 4 and Arya stealth are the higher end amazing sounding headphone, the LCD 5 and Susvara are the ultimate edition tip of the line option. The LCD 3 and Ananda Stealth are stuck in the middle, you can get a similar sound for cheaper and by spending more you can get much better sound. They aren't special enough for people to care about.
Interesting comment. How does one get something similar to the LCD-3 for a more reasonable price? I was able to hear several models from Audeze recently and was much impressed. My first experience with planar magnetic headphones.
I'll keep saying it... We need a revision of the LCDi4 or an LCDi5. One that doesn't need an Apple Cipher cable to sound good out of the box. It should sound great on ANY decent quality DAC & amp that has enough juice, without EQ.
They cant because that would require a filter board which will make them too large. You need to understand the driver on the i4 is 370% larger than the euclid and 620% larger than the timeless. The only way they could make it into a iem is without any filter board.
@@En_Joshi-Godrez I realise the simplicity of the "just get a 5K" solution, with it's Audeze presets. I've heard it before and I'm already seriously considering it in the interim, along with a good amp, like a Cayin C9. But that's portable listening and I'd need a fixed home listening solution too. I have no idea how the LCDi4 would sound connected to the Qudelix and then to say... a good desktop/hifi DAC & amp stack or if/how that would even work and I would also rather it be as simple & minimalist a setup as possible - i.e. My endgame portable is a good DAP like the new Shanling M9 Plus with nothing else but the LCDi4 - no extra EQ/devices!... Endgame home listening: LCDi4 to a good dac/amp stack and my sources (PC & turntable). No extra EQ/devices needed. You also need to consider that without substantial financial investment by a company like Audeze, a demand for innovation by consumers like me and persistence, headphones like the LCDi3/4 probably wouldn't themselves have been thought possible either. "Full-size high end headphone sound from an IEM?...Madness!!" they would say 10-15 years ago. But I digress... If, as you say, a "filter board" is what's needed & they're currently too thick for LCDi3/4 profile IEMs then there needs to be investment & research into how to make them lower profile. I refuse to believe it's not possible and I have a strong desire to see that specific form factor be cemented as part of the future of (wired) headphones, where other manufacturers throw their hat in the ring and come up with their own variations and tunings in that form factor. Electrostats, dynamic drivers, AMT drivers, closed-back, on-ear hook-ons (like KSC-75, but better), etc. I believe it *will* be possible, but they have to hear we want that, enough to motivate them to do whatever it takes to see it realized.
@@SpirallingOutI'll read the rest of your comment in a moment, but lucky for you i already have a i4 and a qudelix. Ultimately, and yea it doesn't have quite enough power on its own unless you turn up the preamp compensation, which doesn't introduce any audible distortion whatsoever. I am using anything from 103 to 171 milliwatts according to its internal calculator. The i4 simply doesn't have huge current spikes with the qudelix, because the qudelix has the highest voltage gain at 32ohms, and the sensitivity of the i4 is ridiculously high for a headphone to begin with. They are married perfectly. I personally bought a astell & kern p10 to pair to it, and yea, it improves it, but that amp is far better quality than you'll find in any dap at any price point, yet the total package of the 5k and the p10 is no larger than a a&k dap. Amps matter considerably more than dacs for planars.
@@SpirallingOut the much much bigger problem is filter boards add huge amounts of resistance. The DCA stealth and expanse are not hard to drive because of their driver, but because of their filter board. The type of filter a i4 would need would be so considerable that it would utterly destroy their sensitivity. No dap exept the m17 would be able to power them at that point. I mean it, the lcd 5 also use them, they suck up power like nothing else. Ultimately you can customise the sound of the qudelix to whatever you want at any moment. The defult harman target is a little to flat for my tasts, so I put a slightly larger base shelf at the exact region i want it, instead of using a GEQ to simply guess. Same goes for its pinna gain, which is ever so slightly too much. Tuning will trump source quality all day every day. Having something be tuned identically to your tastes makes the sound preferences of a dac absolutely irrelevant. You will have the best chain you can possibly have cost no object. You can't do that with a filter board.
It has a good transient response. Planar headphones are better for sudden changes in amplitude. In regular people talk it means it can go from something like a big boom to dead silence better than something like a dynamic driver. With dynamic drivers you can often hear bass and sub bass bleed into the track because it takes longer for the sound to dissipate.
@@skoosie9785 depend on dynamic driver tech used, some of them are really fast and there is no such thing as bleeding, personally I like both and own both, by my personal experience I learnt that dynamic drivers with high impedance amped by high power amps are the best, current flowing by them give it fast response so they hit with amazing accuracy, for example my DT880 (600 ohm) slightly modified under tube amp load for my ear can outperform cans 3x more expensive, new age headphones got low impedance to support those crapy sources but thats not the way of quality, best headphones on the market require serious amp and you cant avoid that unless you agree to sacrifice quality
I say get a speaker, I owned many flagship headphones, headphones cannot compete against good speakers with the equal value, some cheaper speakers can sounds better than LCD4 or even LCD5.
but you need good placement and room acoustics, most importantly headphones do not disturb other people that live with you but I do agree with you that speakers are better overall
Thanks DMS, finally the LCD-3 is getting some attention after quite the gap.
Rented a cabin in the middle of nowhere just to test headphones ? Smells like a work vacation tax writeoff. I love it.
Creepy
@@cstep100 The horse ? Or DMS ? Nah. Either way they probably just want Peace and Quiet and yummy treats.
My significant other was playing in an orchestra touring through the countryside. I wouldn't miss it for anything but work still needs to get done 😄
@@DMS3TV Please tell me you got some vids and recordings. What a great opportunity !
@@matthewhilty4209 possibly
I *really* wish they’d make updates clearer, like with lcd-2 vs lcd-2.2 etc., because this makes the used market a minefield. But great to see they’re updating things none the less.
@@MadLustEnvyyou sure the new pads on these don't effect the sound? He has talked at length about the 2016 version of the LCD2 so you are wrong to say he's coming from a pre fazor, even if thats the one he actually owns.
@@MadLustEnvy yea but i dont trust you 😅. Its a new pad from 2016 and 2018 model. New pad, new sound.
@@MadLustEnvy This doesn't answer why the company historically has refused to make clear version numbers part of the product name.
@@En_Joshi-Godrez the pads are the one of the only parts of a headphone that undergoes wear and tear and needs to be replaced throughout its lifetime. If you buy the newest pad, you get the “newest” version.
@@jeffreymakuch2493 I wouldn’t say Audeze needs to update model numbers or names over a pad revision alone.
The setting of this video is really cool.
Sitting cozy in a hut on the countryside comparing headphones while its raining outside sounds like a nice holiday.
DMS, when you're showing raw squigs, present them with the target curve you'll use for compensation too. Makes it easier to know what we're getting
True that. Especially that Headphones Show has it's own weird custom reference target since new measurement rig has been introduced.
Man, I really wish they would have done a significant update to move the form factor closer to the 5 / MM-500.
They physically can't, lcd drivers are bigger and it would change their acoustics
I don't know how but have the horse as a reoccurring character I chuckled every time you quick cut to the horse
Do you prefer the lcd 3 over the 2021 LcdX ? 🐴
Need another video with a comparison with LCD x and mm 500.
What about mm 100 though??
Released in winter it appears.
I love the vibe of this video! Resting in that cozy cabin on a rainy day, while listening to music through my beloved headphones ... (and watch at that weird horse lol)
Cheers DMS. Great review. I love my LCD-3. With genuine leather LCD-4 pads and a pure silver cable, they’re not far off the 4.
Requesting a horse review following same format: initial impressions, build quality, subjective experience, objective measurements, and comparison to other horses in the range 😜
compare them to the lcd x
🤯
Yes please. The new 2021 version specifically
Thanks DMS. There was an episode of Headphone Mysteries on TV that had a cabin just like that. Forensic analysis founded traces of earwax splatter on all four walls. Maximum shakeage test perhaps? 🤔
This revision has been out for a few years. Also to note is that the current version also has the felt spacer between the pad and driver, a la LCD-4. Driver failures haven't been an issue for a while now, but it is all but solved for current versions.
With so many new and updated Audeze headphones introduced relatively recently, these two, the -MX4, -4z, -500, and the -5, it would seem that an overview of the entire Audeze product line might be a good idea. Maybe throw in the HD800s and Diana TC as relevant flagship reference headphones (for those looking for mix engineer, neutral and detailed sound, rather than euphonic effects). Great review!
thanks for the great quick review in what seems like a perfect location to get lost in Audeze heaven. I recently tried and then purchased the LCD-3. Do you remember what EQ these benifitted from. Im using a Mojo 2 to EQ with so can only adjust 20,120hz and 3 and 20khz bands. Any advice appreciated
It's one of those hifi horses that come around when you listen to hifi gear. I am followed by one too he's always looking at me from my window, even though I'm on the 25th floor.
The earlier models, I preferred the LCD-2 over the 3. My favorite is LCD-4Z.
Great video, I’ve been waiting for a review of the latest lcd 3 for a while. I’m really curious what you would think of the 2021 LCD X too.
I was really hoping for a comparison to the LCD X. These 3 are at the top of my list for my next open backed headphones.
Heard the MM500s last year at CanJam Chicago & the MM100s this year at AXPONA; I was impressed with both, but they're definitely a departure from the typical "Audeze house sound" that you get with these two. Hopefully the new LCD2 & 3s are at this year's CanJam, but looking at the measurements as a female vocal enthusiast I'm not sure these will be for me. We'll see...
@@MadLustEnvy You can go be the pedantic with DMS then because he said they were “new/newer” literally in the title & in the video. Regardless of how new or old sonically they are I’m still looking forward to the fit & finish changes.
It’s very rare I see a review that reflects my personal experience regarding a product, as we know there are variables involve like cable, amp, dac, source and personal taste, etc but this one is a 👍👍 for what it’s worth 😀
Thanks, I've been waiting for measurements of the 2021 LCD-2 for some time now. Although I try to EQ by ear, it is super helpful to be able to compare my findings with objective measurements. I will definitely run it through AutoEQ. Do you publish the measurements somewhere in a text file? I have looked for a database of headphone show measurements but didn't find anything. It would be very convenient to have a central database of all your measurements.
hi dms. are you or someone from the headphone show going to be doing a review of the audeze mm100 before it is officially released to the public? also wanted to see if the sony mdr mv1 headphone could also possibly be reviewed since both headphones are exactly the same price. thanks.
gotta let that horse try your LCDs, it's jealous
Any chance to see how the old versions stock, the with updated pads compare to these newer version?
Surprised the LCD-X wasn't compared to the two
The mm500 is a better x
I'd say the MM-500 is an overpriced LCD-X. With EQ I didn't find anything better about it overall.
@@hartyewh1 Have you been able to make a side-by-side comparison of the two (both using EQ)? I'm curious because I'm currently debating buying either of the two headphones.
@@klemenspichler400 Unfortunately not side by side, but with a 20min space in between. The design and perhaps smoother highs that are easier to EQ are benefits, but beyond that I couldn't find any real improvement. Inwas hoping for something between the LCD-X and LCD-5, but found, imo, just a sidegrade for a much higher price. Getting an LCD-5 now because of it ;)
@@En_Joshi-Godrez Not exactly no. Ive heard both one directly after the other
Im sure you can find stuff better about the MM500, but it's quite a bit more expensive for a headphone that isnt unquestionably better. Also if you have an LCD X 2021, the clamp and fit is much much improved, so its not like youre comparing one uncomfortable headphone to a comfortable one. MM500 weighs less, but thats where my "no doubt improvements" stop
I had an old pair (made in 2013) of LCD-2's. no fazor. So good. Definitely not neutral, but could take almost any EQ you want to run. I have headphones that do almost everything the LCD-2 does, but better yet the LCD-2's were my daily. They just sound more musical to me.
compare them to the lcd x please
LCD 2 comprehensive reveiw please thx mike
After February 2021, not only the pad but also the diaphragm has been made ultra-thin type, and the magnet array has also been changed.
Oh hey we just talked about this last night! LCD 2 ftw. Oh look a horse!
Right now i think these are the best bang for your buck high resolving Planars, as crazy and frankly as sad as that might sound. Both Audeze and Hifiman, even DCA could well offer something cheaper, but they just don't. The Nano's are close, and the other Planars that really impressed me though certainly are are a shave off the LCD 2's are the Verums, I could see myself settling for both them, and I was lucky enough to find a 3 year old pair of these for only $650, it has been far and away the best money i've spent in Audio since (and I own a chord mojo!). Yes, they need EQ (at least to mimic Harmon) and if I were to pedantically pinpoint a flaw it's a light sizzle or energy to the high mids, but they are so close to perfect it's no surprise you see 10 year old beat up pairs everywhere.
So are these revered to as the 2023 revisions? At what serial numbers did they start with both models? I'm guessing a headfi thread will sow this if it hasn't already. The lcd 4 still worth it these days? Don't expect a revision on that I'm guessing? The lcd 5 is tuned oddly compared to other lcd models. Thanks!
"The horse is back", is strait of a Coen brothers movie.
Can you do a video about replacement earpads and from where people should buy new ones ? My 58x pads are getting squished and worn out, I tried replacing them with others made from 3rd party companies but the sound changes too much, ones with sift memory foam add a lot of bass/ambience to every sound, while others just add muddy bass
For now I'll use the origin pads until someone starts making ones close to the original
why not just buy sennheiser replacements?
@@Nick_4i Does sennheiser sell replacements ? I can only find ones from third party companies
@@Vektorion They might not for the 58x specifically, but I'm almost positive the pads are the same as the 600/650/6XX pads, which sennheiser does sell.
You mentioned putting the vegan pads on the LCD3, I've got the Brainwavz XL suede pads on the current LCD3 and it makes them quite a bit warmer almost too much but it does make a perfect alternative to my Arya V2's which I find slightly to much on some music. The brainwavz also have a much larger ear opening and this increases the soundstage quite a bit to a point where they almost match the Arya's, but tonally they're good ying and yang phones set up like this and running off a quality hybrid tube setup.
The Horsephone Show featuring hypnohorse 😵💫
great video as always. any update on the DMS amp? 👀
Would you get maxwell, or mm for Gaming and music\streaming? Or something else enterily .
Petah the horse is here
I just returned my LCD3 and kept my Arya Stealth. The LCD3 is just too heavy. Yes it sounds and looks great but not enough to justify its weight. If you need something with good bass with same Audeze frequency response, go for an IEM.
Got any iem suggestions? I have LCD-3 and would like something similar but lighter with good bass impact
I got the LCD3 and HD800s. Recently I got the Audio-Technica ATH-WP900 closed back. It amazing that this closed back is something different. You can demo it for a try. 😊
Normally, I'd be real interested in these for DAT BASS. But, with the release of the Atrium Closed, I'm no longer interested in chasing bass. 😅
Haha. Right!?
are you guys planning on reviewing the Sony MDR-MV1?
The horse deserves a raise
Lmao that horse was really interested in what you were doing 😂
Any dac/amp recommendations for this bad boys?
I wonder what the technical differences are between the Lcd2 and Lcd3? The price is double up. But I have no clue what the differences are except that the Lcd3 are 100 ohms and the Lcd2 are a 70 ohm design. But what are the technical claims of superiority? If anyone knows please explain 😃
So if you were shopping for one how do you know what revision you’re buying? Just box labeling?
The LCD 3 is like the Hifiman Ananda Stealth. The LCD 2 and Hifiman Subdara are the real good budget option, the LCD 4 and Arya stealth are the higher end amazing sounding headphone, the LCD 5 and Susvara are the ultimate edition tip of the line option. The LCD 3 and Ananda Stealth are stuck in the middle, you can get a similar sound for cheaper and by spending more you can get much better sound. They aren't special enough for people to care about.
Interesting comment. How does one get something similar to the LCD-3 for a more reasonable price? I was able to hear several models from Audeze recently and was much impressed. My first experience with planar magnetic headphones.
DMS is one of my favourite reviewers.
what song is used in the intro?
EDIT: Pool Party by Dylan Sitts, glad I found it since its amazing
Hey DMS im also an owner of the LCD 2.2 with vegan Pads do you think its worth upgrading the Pads to the newer leather ones from Audeze?
EQ the horse please 🛐🛐
I'll keep saying it... We need a revision of the LCDi4 or an LCDi5. One that doesn't need an Apple Cipher cable to sound good out of the box. It should sound great on ANY decent quality DAC & amp that has enough juice, without EQ.
They cant because that would require a filter board which will make them too large. You need to understand the driver on the i4 is 370% larger than the euclid and 620% larger than the timeless. The only way they could make it into a iem is without any filter board.
Just get a qudelix. Problem solved.
@@En_Joshi-Godrez I realise the simplicity of the "just get a 5K" solution, with it's Audeze presets. I've heard it before and I'm already seriously considering it in the interim, along with a good amp, like a Cayin C9. But that's portable listening and I'd need a fixed home listening solution too. I have no idea how the LCDi4 would sound connected to the Qudelix and then to say... a good desktop/hifi DAC & amp stack or if/how that would even work and I would also rather it be as simple & minimalist a setup as possible - i.e. My endgame portable is a good DAP like the new Shanling M9 Plus with nothing else but the LCDi4 - no extra EQ/devices!... Endgame home listening: LCDi4 to a good dac/amp stack and my sources (PC & turntable). No extra EQ/devices needed. You also need to consider that without substantial financial investment by a company like Audeze, a demand for innovation by consumers like me and persistence, headphones like the LCDi3/4 probably wouldn't themselves have been thought possible either. "Full-size high end headphone sound from an IEM?...Madness!!" they would say 10-15 years ago.
But I digress... If, as you say, a "filter board" is what's needed & they're currently too thick for LCDi3/4 profile IEMs then there needs to be investment & research into how to make them lower profile. I refuse to believe it's not possible and I have a strong desire to see that specific form factor be cemented as part of the future of (wired) headphones, where other manufacturers throw their hat in the ring and come up with their own variations and tunings in that form factor. Electrostats, dynamic drivers, AMT drivers, closed-back, on-ear hook-ons (like KSC-75, but better), etc. I believe it *will* be possible, but they have to hear we want that, enough to motivate them to do whatever it takes to see it realized.
@@SpirallingOutI'll read the rest of your comment in a moment, but lucky for you i already have a i4 and a qudelix. Ultimately, and yea it doesn't have quite enough power on its own unless you turn up the preamp compensation, which doesn't introduce any audible distortion whatsoever. I am using anything from 103 to 171 milliwatts according to its internal calculator. The i4 simply doesn't have huge current spikes with the qudelix, because the qudelix has the highest voltage gain at 32ohms, and the sensitivity of the i4 is ridiculously high for a headphone to begin with. They are married perfectly. I personally bought a astell & kern p10 to pair to it, and yea, it improves it, but that amp is far better quality than you'll find in any dap at any price point, yet the total package of the 5k and the p10 is no larger than a a&k dap. Amps matter considerably more than dacs for planars.
@@SpirallingOut the much much bigger problem is filter boards add huge amounts of resistance. The DCA stealth and expanse are not hard to drive because of their driver, but because of their filter board. The type of filter a i4 would need would be so considerable that it would utterly destroy their sensitivity. No dap exept the m17 would be able to power them at that point. I mean it, the lcd 5 also use them, they suck up power like nothing else. Ultimately you can customise the sound of the qudelix to whatever you want at any moment. The defult harman target is a little to flat for my tasts, so I put a slightly larger base shelf at the exact region i want it, instead of using a GEQ to simply guess. Same goes for its pinna gain, which is ever so slightly too much. Tuning will trump source quality all day every day. Having something be tuned identically to your tastes makes the sound preferences of a dac absolutely irrelevant. You will have the best chain you can possibly have cost no object. You can't do that with a filter board.
Hi. What is a good buy for a closed back headphone 300 to 500 usd?
What software do you use to EQ Audeze‘s? I have a Quedelix 5k, but I can‘t figure out how to use it with a full-sized amp. How do you do it?
You need a 2.5mm to xlr cable. The qudelix has no line out, so you'll have to raise the volume until your hear the noise floor through your amp.
Wireless Audeze?? 😅
The day audeze makes light headphones, I, and everyone reading this comment, will be dead
You have their i models. The i4 sounds very alike to their full sized but weighs 24g.
Just upgrade ur neck buddy
@@asmasm138 fair enough
What does it mean for headphones to be “fast”?
It has a good transient response. Planar headphones are better for sudden changes in amplitude. In regular people talk it means it can go from something like a big boom to dead silence better than something like a dynamic driver. With dynamic drivers you can often hear bass and sub bass bleed into the track because it takes longer for the sound to dissipate.
@@skoosie9785 depend on dynamic driver tech used, some of them are really fast and there is no such thing as bleeding, personally I like both and own both, by my personal experience I learnt that dynamic drivers with high impedance amped by high power amps are the best, current flowing by them give it fast response so they hit with amazing accuracy, for example my DT880 (600 ohm) slightly modified under tube amp load for my ear can outperform cans 3x more expensive, new age headphones got low impedance to support those crapy sources but thats not the way of quality, best headphones on the market require serious amp and you cant avoid that unless you agree to sacrifice quality
Is there a way to know if you are buying the older versions or newer versions?
By from Audeze and you will get the newest version
@@ixoye56Not all of us live in the States.
@@chungang7037 It's 2023, order them online.
Peter, the 🐎 is here
I just want to know which one will give me my a good listening experience for metal.
metal
I got both of them
What are you listening to? And which do you prefer?
@@chronometa mostly 3s because of liveliness, 2s sounds really good and more relaxed in some way
@@chronometa 3s got extended accurate bass that doesnt really feel the same way in 2s
That horse is a spy!
Not interested in any Audeze other than if they went back and did a re-release of the OG LCD4 at a lighter weight
Canceled my mm-100 pre-order and bought the LCD-2 Rosewoods. call me crazy.....
Good choice, bro😊
@@rustamken4350 Lol. yeah, not feeling the whack cord and pleather pads. have to spend more loot to change both. will get the mm-500 next year.......
@@carlhil2 try lcd-x. Great slam and detalisation. It's my favourite headphones now.
DMS, please, please, OH PLEASE……..tell me that you’re staying at the SchruteFarms Bed&Breakfast?! Dude, you gotta do the beet tour…..😬
I say get a speaker, I owned many flagship headphones, headphones cannot compete against good speakers with the equal value, some cheaper speakers can sounds better than LCD4 or even LCD5.
but you need good placement and room acoustics, most importantly headphones do not disturb other people that live with you but I do agree with you that speakers are better overall
lcd 3 - The pewdiepie headphone
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Vegan pads… means petrol made pads
Audeez nuts
Huge phones! Like, WOW! Just sayin
your cabin must be costing less than your two lcd"s lol its just a joke
Horses can get rabies and go mad
DMS ride the horse it wants you 🤪 😏 😉 😜 😌
Aaahhh ur so cute 😅 total dreamboat