The idea of this smoke bomb is from 2 previously existed features in the game: 1. Old Bane's ult (whirlpool continuous damage before the shark ult) 2. a similar version of Smoke Bomb that was once introduced in advanced server but it was removed (too OP) because: - complete immunity with too big aoe - it was a skill 2 (regular skill) the 2 reasons above are for the OP-ness, while some players also complained that it made her ability to 1v1 too bad, because anyone in the smoke - such as the MM she caught, will be able to kill her in her own smoke bomb which used to be the tool that makes her shine at 1v1 I believe making the smoke bomb her ult this way + make the center part empty is more reasonable, this tackles the 2 OP reasons i mentioned earlier, and also solved the problem of how her very own 1v1 tool became the tool that make herself easily killed by the target. *She is only immune if she is in the outer circular area*
As you said in the video, it's most likely her invisibility and exclamation mark won't return but your idea is quite enlightening for the idea of improving the hero's current aspects rather than just reverting to her older aspects, i see you've made her smoke bomb more relevant to her kit Also i feel the camoflouge visuals needs improvement because it's easy to detect, her camouflage should be the same like Lesley's where it reflects off of surroundings
😮Wow this is definitely very interesting, but i think either ult cd should be high in the early, or a damege nerf should be there or we can pat her down in the ban section 😅
Merging the somke bomb and ult is genius and it not being stuck at one place instead its like a cc to the enemy Changing her passive to where she can be a better jungler is great as even after playing mlbb for some time I have no idea what her passive is..... Just goes to show how unpopular she is nowadays Great video very creative only if moonton gives some love to natalia as i think her collector skin is ready to be released in advance server
Isnt she the only one left with silence after helcurt’s been removed? I think it doesn’t feel right completely taking out one of their most unique abilities, like what they did with Masha’s disarm.. but from what i can finally see in a more visual reference, i do say this sounds more fun and pretty consistent :3
Well, actually Faramis also has Silence effect, but it's Silence teammates. When the extra HP from his Ultimate is depleted, the hero will enter a brief Resurrection state, becoming unable to move or attack *(i.e. silenced)* but immune to damage for 1.3 seconds.
Well, masha with one of the unique mechanics is sacrificed, but she is now stronger right 😆 Only in old players' or mains' mind will it be a unique feature being removed, pros dont think that way but they evaluate the overall strength, as for newbies they dont even know the hero used to have certain effects. Those unique CCs can always be added back someday in some heroes' skills, for example an unpopular support - Carmilla or some new heroes who is more suited for cc rather than dmg
@@kalpabrikshkhulem9961 it is mentioned clearly in patch notes that they are changing because of player usage statistics. Just because that exists doesnt mean they are leaving her as a roamer. Lets be real, no one would want a natalia teammate now because there r so many better roamers
She will have her collector skin this year according to leaks, but since she is underperfoming im speculating an adjustment in coming season but theee is no official confirmation
Hey bobameow, I forgot to ask yesterday, is Natalia recieving another revamp? Like are the peeps from moonton planning another revamp for her? Is that why u gave them this idea?
Oh ok ok...may be then, they'll release her collector skin...or may be release new surveys for her...also tell me honestly, do they hate Natalia 😂😂@@BobameowMLBB (Also plz tell them to make her smoke look better, not like what we have now, a dirty pool of water 😂)
This hero does not build attack speed. Even now, she is not an attack speed hero (her skill 2 no longer offers attack speed even in the current global server version). Hence this revamp plan has nothing to do with attack speed
The shape is similar to Akali's but none of the actual effects is similar and i can guarantee that Check the pinned comment for the inspiration of this ult design
She can be hit if she is in the centre of the circle or outside of it. But she is untargettable only when she is in the smoke And since there is no more silence, u can always use won, winter, flicker etc
Im not expecting devs to be free n reply to msg that quick as they are working on big project. Natalia is definitely not within their priority anyway. In short, not yet, and even if it is accepted i cannot publically announce as it is confidential
skill 3* if u are saying, but other than visually, nothing else is even close. i did my research before designing this. Akali's skill 2 is designed for her to reposition and place her other skills, while this is to help her proc her passive and refresh her dashes, completely different concept even though they look similar like a donut. but just this doesnt count as plagiarism, there's many skills in the world of Moba (HoK, MLBB, LOL, etc) that has similar visual design, however as long as the actual effect and purpose is different, it is not the same thing therefore no plagiarism
@@BobameowMLBB they do hate her don't they 😂 why don't they do anything i mean ANYTHING about her...her collector skin? PENDING! Everyone is getting a revamp look, but her? NEVER, a new skin survey? NEVER. According to them all they see as assassin are gusion and fanny and lance 🥲 Don't mind me, its so infuriating thats why I'm ranting. If there's any shareable updates on her plz keep us posted bobaaa❤
Lol nope. I have association with devs and is actively communicating to make her a good hero, so if u think this is impossible, i hate to break it to u, it is not. Dreaming? Well those that think she will remain a roamer forever, that is a nice dream tho. This hero will definitely get some changes in future, whether u like it or not
The idea of this smoke bomb is from 2 previously existed features in the game:
1. Old Bane's ult (whirlpool continuous damage before the shark ult)
2. a similar version of Smoke Bomb that was once introduced in advanced server but it was removed (too OP) because:
- complete immunity with too big aoe
- it was a skill 2 (regular skill)
the 2 reasons above are for the OP-ness, while some players also complained that it made her ability to 1v1 too bad, because anyone in the smoke - such as the MM she caught, will be able to kill her in her own smoke bomb which used to be the tool that makes her shine at 1v1
I believe making the smoke bomb her ult this way + make the center part empty is more reasonable, this tackles the 2 OP reasons i mentioned earlier, and also solved the problem of how her very own 1v1 tool became the tool that make herself easily killed by the target. *She is only immune if she is in the outer circular area*
4:19 Lmao 🗿💀
The ultimate idea somewhat reminded me of the old bane's ultimate
yep, that was referenced too
As you said in the video, it's most likely her invisibility and exclamation mark won't return but your idea is quite enlightening for the idea of improving the hero's current aspects rather than just reverting to her older aspects, i see you've made her smoke bomb more relevant to her kit
Also i feel the camoflouge visuals needs improvement because it's easy to detect, her camouflage should be the same like Lesley's where it reflects off of surroundings
You have really reasonable point. As for her camo improvement, i believe it will happen but only when they remodel her. It is mostly about modelling
😮Wow this is definitely very interesting, but i think either ult cd should be high in the early, or a damege nerf should be there or we can pat her down in the ban section 😅
Good Editing. The sound effects are a nice touch
I like this kind of content, SUBSCRIBED🎉
Merging the somke bomb and ult is genius and it not being stuck at one place instead its like a cc to the enemy
Changing her passive to where she can be a better jungler is great as even after playing mlbb for some time
I have no idea what her passive is.....
Just goes to show how unpopular she is nowadays
Great video very creative only if moonton gives some love to natalia as i think her collector skin is ready to be released in advance server
Isnt she the only one left with silence after helcurt’s been removed? I think it doesn’t feel right completely taking out one of their most unique abilities, like what they did with Masha’s disarm.. but from what i can finally see in a more visual reference, i do say this sounds more fun and pretty consistent :3
Well, actually Faramis also has Silence effect, but it's Silence teammates. When the extra HP from his Ultimate is depleted, the hero will enter a brief Resurrection state, becoming unable to move or attack *(i.e. silenced)* but immune to damage for 1.3 seconds.
Actually faramis' feels more like suppression. While akai also has silenced written as his ult wall stun state, it is more like stun too
Well, masha with one of the unique mechanics is sacrificed, but she is now stronger right 😆
Only in old players' or mains' mind will it be a unique feature being removed, pros dont think that way but they evaluate the overall strength, as for newbies they dont even know the hero used to have certain effects.
Those unique CCs can always be added back someday in some heroes' skills, for example an unpopular support - Carmilla or some new heroes who is more suited for cc rather than dmg
Well Explained! That will surely do good for jungle😲😲
十分认真看了一下，总感觉还有一点缺陷：
1. 她似乎开龟能力还是较差，要是这个二技能可以像隼他们的那样猛，那倒是没问题。
2. 没控的她失去了游走能力，她让我感觉不像赛琳娜这种。既保留了游走能力，又可以中路和打野。
3. 这个比较像是以前的娜塔莉亚玩家会抱怨的，就是隐身变伪装。我是觉得没问题啦，毕竟这样会超标啊。。。
（另外我在考虑要不要开discord）
1. 用大招打呀，放了大招一直对野怪刷1、2（野怪也可以挂【利爪标记】）大招还有原本的2层充能效果，1个打龟1个打人
2. 那就是达到目的了
3. 嗯，这个我有想过（不过老实说这英雄太多机制妨碍她进步了，拿走一些东西换一些更好的，我很乐意）
Also plz no jungler😢 let her be roam or side
this hero is never designed to be roamer, it has always been a design flaw by the developers that make players abuse her as a roamer
@@BobameowMLBBbut didn’t they just recently change her preferred role to roam 🤔 her and selena
@@kalpabrikshkhulem9961 it is mentioned clearly in patch notes that they are changing because of player usage statistics. Just because that exists doesnt mean they are leaving her as a roamer. Lets be real, no one would want a natalia teammate now because there r so many better roamers
😂😂😂 10 second immunity, lmao
1. Not immune when she is in the centre
2. Not immune to attacks inside the smoke (tigrael can stun her if he is in her smoke region)
What are your thoughts on helcurt revamp?
Not exactly broken but a little too strong. But honestly the other 2 assassins, hayabusa and ling are even better
Hey Boba, any news, rumours, or tea about Natalia, or her skin, or any revamp?
She will have her collector skin this year according to leaks, but since she is underperfoming im speculating an adjustment in coming season but theee is no official confirmation
Ok ok thanks..i hope she gets a buff ,so done with adjustments she got so far @@BobameowMLBB
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Hey, have you ever thought of submitting these ideas to the devs? I'm quite sure they'll listen to you
They are aware of this
Hey bobameow, I forgot to ask yesterday, is Natalia recieving another revamp? Like are the peeps from moonton planning another revamp for her? Is that why u gave them this idea?
Eventually but there is no confirmed time. But this current natalia will surely get some changes someday, im 100% certain about that
Oh ok ok...may be then, they'll release her collector skin...or may be release new surveys for her...also tell me honestly, do they hate Natalia 😂😂@@BobameowMLBB
(Also plz tell them to make her smoke look better, not like what we have now, a dirty pool of water 😂)
@kalpabrikshkhulem9961 no. And yes they r aware of the smoke
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masha has now become what natalia wish she was
What about attack speed?
This hero does not build attack speed. Even now, she is not an attack speed hero (her skill 2 no longer offers attack speed even in the current global server version). Hence this revamp plan has nothing to do with attack speed
@@BobameowMLBBwish her attack speed is given back
Not necessary tho. She can do well in late game even without attack speed build
Ult reminds me of a champion in league of legends
The shape is similar to Akali's but none of the actual effects is similar and i can guarantee that
Check the pinned comment for the inspiration of this ult design
为啥中文字幕要放那么高?😇
Ml的屏幕比例如果在下方放中英两排 不太好看
Imagine natalia killing an enemy in front of their mage or mm while they can't do anything cuz they're out of her ult😱😜
She can be hit if she is in the centre of the circle or outside of it. But she is untargettable only when she is in the smoke
And since there is no more silence, u can always use won, winter, flicker etc
@@BobameowMLBB oooo that makes sense
So, did they accept your concept?
Im not expecting devs to be free n reply to msg that quick as they are working on big project. Natalia is definitely not within their priority anyway. In short, not yet, and even if it is accepted i cannot publically announce as it is confidential
Nah the skill 2 its similar to akali skill 2 the same thing💀
skill 3* if u are saying, but other than visually, nothing else is even close. i did my research before designing this. Akali's skill 2 is designed for her to reposition and place her other skills, while this is to help her proc her passive and refresh her dashes, completely different concept even though they look similar like a donut. but just this doesnt count as plagiarism, there's many skills in the world of Moba (HoK, MLBB, LOL, etc) that has similar visual design, however as long as the actual effect and purpose is different, it is not the same thing therefore no plagiarism
@@BobameowMLBB already then👍
I need old natalia skill!!😭😭😭
Nope it sux
Boba any news? Regarding Natalia 🥹🤞🏻
nope
@@BobameowMLBB they do hate her don't they 😂 why don't they do anything i mean ANYTHING about her...her collector skin? PENDING! Everyone is getting a revamp look, but her? NEVER, a new skin survey? NEVER.
According to them all they see as assassin are gusion and fanny and lance 🥲
Don't mind me, its so infuriating thats why I'm ranting.
If there's any shareable updates on her plz keep us posted bobaaa❤
@@kalpabrikshkhulem9961 her collector is most likely this year
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Please need 1 diamond 😭
check my latest community post
Keep dreaming
Lol nope. I have association with devs and is actively communicating to make her a good hero, so if u think this is impossible, i hate to break it to u, it is not. Dreaming? Well those that think she will remain a roamer forever, that is a nice dream tho. This hero will definitely get some changes in future, whether u like it or not
@@BobameowMLBB yay, i can feel it, her collector will be released soon :'