@@vincentdreemurr Wdym no, its yes. If you need explanation, basically heroes like eudora if attacked by natalia, can now fight back because of the mere 0.25 silence duration, natalia's silence is what makes her a counter for these heroes, but now since the nerf its now literally so irrelevant, only used to cancel some skills
I've played against the new Natalias and they're literally useless she is not that scary anymore. Unlike the Natalia before her update, where you have to pray to the lord above when you see the exclamation point.
3:47 yes I think Natalia is not too good to be a jungler even though there is a buff in her passive for creeps, I prefer her to be a roamer that interferes with opponents
With how her passive works she is definitely supposed to be played as a roamer. But moonton is really bent on making her work as a jungler. Her clear time kinda sucks tbh and you get absolutely bodied if someone tries to invade you and you don't have your dashes up. If you can't build hepta within 3 minutes you might as well afk since you're not gonna kill anyone
The thing about a lot of assassins in general is their lack of counterplay. They are just so unfun to fight against. They are also balance nightmares since take Ling for example where with all of his adjustments, he either feels broken on one patch or borderline useless in another. Natalia is kind of like that.
Now we know moonton's most hated cc is silence. Why? They nerfed that cc 2x now. Form helcurt's to natalia's. Yet nerfing that means buffing all those skill reliant heroes, and there's alot of them nowadays.
Yes hc and natalia silence is not even useful anymore like holy shit their silence is useless as shit because skill heroes could kill them before activating their silence, HC instant silence is on FUCKING 60-45(level3 ult max cd) ult now imagine wasting ult for one fking enemy just so they cant skill/flicker away before hc could just first skill silence then bam dead soft heroes
honestly this feels like a buff when youre fighting certain heroes like jawhead and Hilda it also makes baiting and running alot easier the only nerf i can feel is when diving into the enemy base and chasing other than that she feels the exact same you just need to be a little more careful and camp in bushes more also Natalia roamer > Natalia jungle
Yea, unless they make her be able to kill monsters super quick, she's gonna still be roamer, her being able go roam constantly freely is whagsmakes her good, take that away and you get natafeedliya
@@asmodiasmobilemoba she can clear monsters easily even in the early game you just have to use jungle emblem which doesnt reduce her damage if you use flame retribution i just don't like the playstyle
Moontons hero adjustment be like: Any balances hero -Gets Buff -Gets Popular -Gets into the banning section -Gets nerf to the ground -Gets revamp in the next few months -Gets into the balanced section again And the cycle continuous
honestly i’ve rarely struggled with natalia as i mostly use skill based fighters… i think they’ve done natalia far to harshly compared to others… the silence is just too short.
Yes nat is a threat.But that's her purpose,to pose a threat is her job and if your team loses its their fault for not being cautious.Without that threat,she's like a basic attack reliant saber.Ruined.
Natlia is my 3rd main assassin Now I don't use her anymore It's pretty boring and she's pretty weak on this current nerf. Lots of enemy picking a hero that can target her by skill
Here’s a/another fanmade hero of mine if you are interested. I left out some details again :p Kenji lives beyond the skies and is a protector of the heavens. After he found out that the lands are in need of help, because of the rising population of abyssal demons, he decided to be a part of the team of the gods from the heavens who contribute to keep the balance in the lands. Kenji is able to control the winds and is known for using his powerful tornadoes and wind cages to deal with his foes. On the battlefield, Kenji is a very strong support/mage able to continuously weaken enemies for many seconds with ease and without putting himself in big danger. He can be an easy target for burst heroes though and needs a team as well as the players good awareness to really shine! Gameplay: Support/Teamfighter Difficulty: Average Kenji - Prince of Tornados (he/him) Role: Support Speciality: Crowd Control/Poke Passive (Buff/SpeedUp): Kenji uses wind energy instead of mana and can cast his skills as long as he has wind energy. All of his skills can be tapped to activate and tapped again to deactivate them. He gains wind energy through basic attacks and has 14 segments of wind energy (14 segments = 14s of wind energy). 1 basic attack hit fills 2 segments. If Kenji has less than 7 filled segments, his attack-speed will increase by 35%. Kenji can use 2 skills at the same time, which drains wind energy twice as fast. Kenji moves with +30% Movement-Speed, when not using any skills and will reduce his movement-speed by 20% when casting one skill and 40% when casting two skills. Kenji can‘t increase his ATK-Speed, except with his passive (1% ATK-Speed -> 1p Movement-Speed). By the way, there is a 3,5s (0,1s reduction every level) delay, until Kenji can reactivate the same skill again (Ultimate has Cooldown instead). 1.Skill (CC/DeBuff): Kenji traps up to two enemy heroes in a wind enclosure at the designated location (when it’s 2, he needs double the wind energy). The icons of the enemies trapped will then appear above the skill icon and Kenji can throw them out when tapping on them. Trapped enemies can only escape if Kenji let’s them or they deal enough damage to break the wind enclosure (300-1550 damage needed, +20% when 2 enemies). The longer Kenji casts this skill, the more damage enemies need to do in order to break it (Each segment/second = +150-450 damage). Trapped enemies only receive 20% damage from Kenji‘s allies, but also have their damage reduced to 30%, both WHEN the damage travels through the winds (damage from trapped enemies to wind enclosure stays the same). Each time enemies cast a skill inside the wind enclosure, Kenji will get a heal (180-305, +20% Total Magical Power). By the way, enemies outside the wind enclosure can‘t free the trapped enemies in any way, also not heal or shield them. 2.Skill (AoE/Buff): Kenji continuously releases strong wind forward, which slightly pushes enemies back. Enemies who walk towards the wind will be slowed by 15->75% (based on distance, the closer to Kenji, the stronger). This skill deals damage every second (90-130, +30% Total Magical Power). This skill also blocks all small enemy projectiles (up to a certain size) and ANY enemy projectile, when it’s too close to Kenji. Blocked projectiles, will fly in the opposite direction and deal damage to enemies (damage of the projectiles reduced by 70%). By the way, allies inside the winds will gain a shield (based on 10% of their max hp) and a 10% movement-speed increase. 3.Skill/Ultimate (AoE/Burst): Kenji summons a tornado, which picks up enemies for 2s when they are too close and deals 150-250 damage every 0,5s (+25% Total Magical Power). After the 2s, the tornado will throw the enemy in the opposite direction of Kenji. The tornado automatically follows enemies, doing so rather slowly. If Kenji deactivates this skill, the tornado will slow down and will explode after 2s, dealing high damage (800-1200, +195% Total Magical Power) to enemies in a decently sized AoE. The explosion also slows enemies hit by 60% for 3s. Cooldown: 28/24/20 Thanks for readingggg
I noticed the new Nat, I've been playing Nat from the time she had the scratching ult, she's always been mostly nerfed on repeat rather than power adjustment. Give her an execute or percent max HP dmg on her silence so that she can finish the job, because the new update takes the enemy HP to 20 percent and they'd oneshot you as a mage
@@hanabiilesley Exactly. I dunno where the ban is coming from. She wasn't even that strong before the nerf and now she's just useless and there are more better heroes for the jungler and roamer role now. This is ridiculous and less thought out by montoon. Just because she was always banned doesn't really mean she was OP, players just want to use mm and mage so then ban her instead of picking a hero that directly counters her, what is counter-picking for.
@@RaffyART1995 exactly, if you're mm and you're banning, you'd ban Nat, or you can have a Selena, Rafaela, popol and kupa or almost anyone with an aoe or burst like luo yi and your opportunity is limited, besides there's the cabbage and the vision thing near the base that reveals invisibility. Prio bans were usually yin,john, beatrix, Aldous, Julian and wanwan. Which were understandable that time, but Nat isn't anywhere near as op as those bans were. It was already risky going after a CC mage before this adjustment, now it'll be near impossible unless you're really fed
I do prefer her as a roamer as well coz killing jungle monsters forever feels like delaying yourself it sure is picked my many players but for me Natalia dire hit is best and to reduce the cd of ult I target the cockroach coz it has low hp and provides mana and recharges my ult
Tbh I like Natalia as roam too ,but you need Tank Exp or jungle for the late game. Barrats ,Balmond , Akai, Esmeralda... I think you should mention that cause people just end with full assasin teams and no bulk in the Low Mythic and Legend
I really don't think Natalia fits the role of a jungler, or even a side lane. It's very inefficient to use her as one. I prefer Natalia as midlane or roam instead, you can utilize her ability to open up the map much more for your team by constantly roaming around.
Gotta disagree on this. The silence duration nerf is a bit too much, she is more easily countered because you barely get to finish the combo. Maybe just remove the delay on her second ult cast, we can atleast get .75 sec silence which is still lower than before but better chance to finish the combo.
I rly want the old Natalia she was gold and the fact that no one bans her or even know to counter her in the past was the best but moonton decided to ruin that bc they hate how she used to be. (Remember guys don't play Natalia if u want her to get buffed this decreases her popularity and I think it's the only way for Natalia to escape from those noobs thinking she's op when she's nerfed so badly ex: dmg is lower compared to before)
3:47 - 3:49. For me, jungling just slows her down. 6:09. I think most players does not read the new updates, they just ban a hero that just got nerfed without even knowing. Or I guess they're just lazy to read 🤔. 10:43 - 10:48. I hope so. Thank you for the amazing gameplay.
I know that Wan Wan got nerf, I still don't feel like playing against her, if my team feeds her, I will be clapped, about Nata yeah, I have no clue why she is banned that much
As a TOP 1 GLOBAL NATALIA RIGHT NOW, for me is more easy to steal the lord and enemy jungle buffs with the new Natalia ... also can t say that is really a NERF tho ☺️
Playing natalie will be hard, especially when playing in solo queue. Because not only your enemy but also your teammates may sometimes be uncooperative during the game. It is best that natalie user, beginner or veteran, play with their friends to avoid any negative situation such as feeding, going afk, or verbal abuse. Also, big thanks to elgin for showcasing natalie's skill adjustments. I hope player out there who seen this video could benefit this when playing natalie. Peace from Malaysia
@@nyx5334 it is easier in solo queue. But harder to put up with a bunch of teammates who you dont really know. Im saying, playing with friends has its own advantage. Especially when you are really serious in rank match.
The reason why natalia is such a unique and niche hero is because of her invincibility. If they make her visible after 0,6 seconds then might as well delete her as hero, because at that point she’s almost the same as hilda, “a bush assassin”. Except hilda is actually better, because at least she’s tanky. If natalia is broken then I think the proper way to nerf her is by reducing her damage, so she only can kill enemy with critical health, but leave her invincibility alone.
as a Natalia main, your positioning and targeting during clashes are the are the things you should focus on, work your way around the clash and attack from behind, literally 🤣🤣🤣
ihonestly,i think she needs another revamp if there ganna turn her into a jungler.. her kit is too useless especialy when she needs the bushes alot. she is easy to invade, lacks the burst she use to have,even layla counters her now when its supposed to be her to hunt layla, fun fact(not so fun for natalia):natalia is the squishiest assasin/meele charachter in the game also she cannot build defensive items cause her damage is too low so she is full burst build. im sad on how she is forced to jungle when she is the most unique assasin, like no other assasin is as effective as natalia roam. i know all assasins are easy to invade early but natalia is just borderline useless even at level 4 even her stealth is badly nerfed like its ok if her stealth isnt nerfed,i used to steal lords with retribution with ease but now its not even possible. maybe they should alllow her to go in stealth even when out of bush since its easy to see her now and have easy time after the nerf to conpinsate
The thing is, they want her to be a jungler which is fine but with her invisibility passive can be just refreshed via entering a bush is much easier. Aamon is the jungler that has the camouflage passive since he needs to cast a skill and only for a couple of seconds to be camouflage so if moontoon wants to make Natalia jungle either make her invisibility like aamon where it isn't permanent. I know many roam Natalia mains will hate this but it's just a suggestion if moontoon wants to make her a jungler
@@ashishabraham2699 to be honest her kit is pretty much an assassin a dash that you can use in and out. A smoke bomb allowing you to claw and slow the enemies and an ultimate to reset your passive it's just that her invisibility makes her a good roamer instead an assassin
Yea that's what..making her like aamon that need skill cast to refresh the camo is just a big nerf...she used to be unique with true invisibility.. Now she's not even scary
i main Natalia (I still do and will never stop), and IMO roam is the best role for her just because of the dire hit and execute.. you may have noticed that her burst isn't that great anymore, so having that dire hit and execute is very useful for taking down enemies much faster. it does have a lot of cons tho .. making her roam means you will need a team that can compensate for the lack of tank, and having a reliable front liner is still essential for better outcome in teamfights and natalia is very squishy to do that and mages and assassins can easily burst her with their skills, if you're playing with friends then this won't be a problem cuz they could just pick a tank or a tanky fighter and use them in exp lane or tank as jungle, but in solo queue your team will rarely adjust their pick or you'll be forced to take jungle role instead...not saying that jungle nat is bad, jungle is her 2nd best role imo, but she's not as good as she is back then in terms of damage, not to mention that it tends to fall off when it reaches mid to late game so you gotta need that dire hit.. and one thing that you always remember is that you need to maintain the pressure to the enemy team by abusing your early game potential because natalia is very strong early game and can easily score first bloods, it's best to keep on killing squishy targets especially the enemy carry and push lanes and always end the game as quick as possible. because in late game where everyone has immortality or wind of nature then natalia is less useful in teamfights so you need to pick fights very carefully or you can just split push since natalia is also good at that and can also back off safely if enemy tries to defend (unless ofcrs getting ganked by lesley and her team). and always ban heroes that can counter you easily. i prefer to always ban diggie for many reasons I hate to talk about....
Nerfs essentially killed the possibility of a roaming Nat. Long cooldowns on ult charges and the silence nerf makes her have little to no use as a roamer. You might as well use a different hero for offensive support like Kaja or Mathilda.
at this point moonton literally should just remove her from the game . like after this nerfed none will pick her in rank mode since everyone use mf AoE mage in game 💀
Sad to say that the developer of ML is always granting the wish and complain of row rank player. Natalia is easy to counter. Hylos, Xborg, Vexana, lunox, all fighter except Zilong. Effective counters are Matilda, rafaela, and tigreal. It is good if moneytoon, buff the anti hero for natalia rather than bad nerf her. Or add an item that can support the allied in wide range.
I was playing johnson and went to recalling with 1% HP, suddenly natalia attacked me and i managed to survive and cuase her to die, then i laughed at her nerf and she also laughed with me.... It's so sad for natalia's players
Idk if moonton made a potion for jawhead to not be able to throw teammates. Maybe idk enemies can actually buy some kind of potion that cost a hefty price (idk 1k) to reveal invisible units within 350 or 400 units for x minutes? Tbh the nerfs aren't doing anything since invisibility is overpowered when there are actually no item to counter invisibility. Take league for example they have sweeping lens and control ward which counters heroes that roams around with their invisibility. ML doesn't have any of those which makes invisibility somewhat the best mechanics that a hero can have
I tried to play her as roam and base on my experience its hard now on early game but on late game she still can do her role as a assasin and still can deal the same damage like before.
Fact: (i don't know if it is a bug or something) Being a cyclops main in my 3rd account, i can't kill a balmond without athena and oracle in this patch. I was so surprised by this because i can easily melt balmond before with magic penetration and anti-heal. My cyclops build against balmond was 1. Ice Hunter's Magic Shoes (Jungler because there's no jungler ally but they all stayed jungling in the game) 2. Enchanted Talisman 3. Necklace of Durance 4. Genius Wand 5. Glowing Wand 6. Divine Glaive (i sold Bruteforce breastplate for Antique Cuirass and it didn't work so i bought penetration in hoping for more burst) My Emblem was Custom Mage Emblem with pure damage and Magic Worship Talent. I have 17-2-3 KDA but i can't burst balmond with this build so i lose the game. Balmond build was 1. Ice Hunter's Tough Boots (Jungler) 2. Cursed Helmet 3. Guardian Helmet 4. Radiant Armor 5. Dominance Ice 6. Blade Armor I can't believe balmond with only four anti-magic item was too tanky even without the athena shield and oracle while i have 2 penetration + glowing wand passive + magic worship passive + anti heal necklace. Balmond's KDA was 11-4-5 but they won because his teammates were good on pushing the lanes while my teammates were in the jungle the whole game. I was one man team by the way it is like 1 smurf vs. 5 smurfs. I was a counter-build GOD so this is the first time i failed countering my opponent that i was so surprised because imagine a balmond with only 4 anti-magic items (blade armor and Dominance ice is negligible against cyclops' penetration) can't be bursted down by a full magic penetration.
Shes been nerfed hard since the last patch, now shes hard to use and her pick rate goes down (being under 0,5%) but she still top 5 banned heroes, wtf! Idont know what the players want honestly she is not scary anymore
now even molina can find her, fighter like paquito, esme, thamuz can chase her even eve valir edora, gs always destroy her passive(.6s reveal is too low), enemy can react too fast(.25s silance is too low & slow effect also gone & ultimate have goddamn 3s cd), her conceal is totally useless as a protection (meta is full of skill caster) But worst of all is that 0.6 s reveal; previously we can trick enemy in wrong path and escape from another path now tank-fighter will keep chasing us natalia can't even escape properly anymore
wow taking away the only thing Natalia was designed to assassinating squishies especially mms. great plan moontoon how about you nerf tank because they have too much hp, mage beacause cc is op, or supports because its not fair for the other team to have a free fountain. just malding because of the nonsense that is beatrix getting away scotts free of nerf with only a reload adjustment
They ruined this character she use to be literally invisible where you couldn’t see her at all now after 1 sec you can see her but she’s “invisible” they should’ve left her alone.
I still play natalia after the nerf but not that much anymore and i noticed that the minions always attacks me even when i am invisible i really hate that
I don't get it she nerfed so much and people still banning her wtf can't get to use my main😭. The nerf this time was huge for me but not enough to stop her if you know her well
I feel like they should add back her effect on her ult where it gets less cooldown for each kill, the point of natalia is literary to be an assasin killer, her ult is so far worse than karinas which is a better pick than natalia in most cases of being tanky yet powerful. Its not everyday you see a roaming assasin which in it of itselt actually sounds more logical than an assasin who can kill creeps. But yeah thats my take on it
Moonton tried really hard to make her as a jungler, unfortunately her kit is not that good for Jungling, she is much better as a roamer or a midlaner because of her early game damage and ability to rotate and harass enemies. After that adjustment where Moonton introduced us to Jungle Natalia, she's already not that scary anymore (for me at least).
Being nata main player and after update i literally stopped playing her. Ive switched to miya. First, nerfed damage update and then nerfed silence and invi was really frustrating.
She's not suitable as a jungle cuzher speciality is the passive instead of other skills.... I think if moonton wanted to make Natalia's a jungle is that make her enhance basic attack every 3 or 4 times ONLY to jungle creep, turtles and lord
To be honest i prefer league of legends but i believe Moonton are making improvements and I respect every ML players choice. That aside, Riot’s league of legends are implementing new mechanics for 2023. Junglers will exclusively have pets to assists them in battles which is treated as permanent buffs/passives for example providing damage, tank, roaming/movement speed junglers. Junglers can decide which pet to use leveling up the pet like a Pokémon at the items shop on the battlefield. Riot is also adding a voting option to whether or not your team wants to fight for objectives or not. Adding more useful pings. Riot adds more mechanics every year and I’m just spreading the news just in case Moonton decides to add similar mechanics. I gotta admit though a voting phase for objectives sure would be useful during a match. I know everyone was hyped for ML’s new talent system and the majority reviews were actually good coming from many comments. Sadly it got cancelled before the lawsuit came to a conclusion. Let’s just hope they pause the talent system to make some adjustments.
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Moonton wanted to nerf her so bad, to the point she literally becomes invisible again, but only on the hero usage💀
Surprisingly not the ban section tho, my teammates keep banning her and not wanwan or faramis :V
At least at legend they stopped doing this
@@suffering9481 I guess it's because of Nataphobia, but even though she's still getting ban, the usage definitely decreased
@@clarkhaleloispasco9592 ye
@@suffering9481 wanwan is easy to counter now tho. They nerfed her so bad.
@@suffering9481 I love your teammates so much giving me my main hero’s 🥰
Biggest problem is the removal of the 1 second silence and slow on her passive. That was literally her lifeline.
no
The nerf on her silence makes it really hard to pick her over other heroes
Yes conceal nerf is fine cc and slow nerf actually bad.
@@vincentdreemurr Wdym no, its yes. If you need explanation, basically heroes like eudora if attacked by natalia, can now fight back because of the mere 0.25 silence duration, natalia's silence is what makes her a counter for these heroes, but now since the nerf its now literally so irrelevant, only used to cancel some skills
I hope they bring back atleast the 0.6 sec silence
I've played against the new Natalias and they're literally useless she is not that scary anymore. Unlike the Natalia before her update, where you have to pray to the lord above when you see the exclamation point.
Agreed
Spend last couple of months to play her as a roamer, now it's all ruined 😕😔
@@israkhk same
No, the old natalia didn't make you pray she made you an atheist "there is no God " for a second 😭
That is actually the case
elgin:aim for their squishy ones.
also elgin:attacks franco
Franco is the squishiest tank
@@nasidodge3489 fair,but a tank is still a tank .-.
LOL
3:47 yes I think Natalia is not too good to be a jungler even though there is a buff in her passive for creeps, I prefer her to be a roamer that interferes with opponents
I totally agree but they made her into a hyper hero
With how her passive works she is definitely supposed to be played as a roamer. But moonton is really bent on making her work as a jungler. Her clear time kinda sucks tbh and you get absolutely bodied if someone tries to invade you and you don't have your dashes up. If you can't build hepta within 3 minutes you might as well afk since you're not gonna kill anyone
@@yoimama9603 no natalia is meant to counter burst heroes so jungler was ok but nerf made her useless
The thing about a lot of assassins in general is their lack of counterplay. They are just so unfun to fight against. They are also balance nightmares since take Ling for example where with all of his adjustments, he either feels broken on one patch or borderline useless in another. Natalia is kind of like that.
Now we know moonton's most hated cc is silence.
Why? They nerfed that cc 2x now. Form helcurt's to natalia's. Yet nerfing that means buffing all those skill reliant heroes, and there's alot of them nowadays.
Yes hc and natalia silence is not even useful anymore like holy shit their silence is useless as shit because skill heroes could kill them before activating their silence, HC instant silence is on FUCKING 60-45(level3 ult max cd) ult now imagine wasting ult for one fking enemy just so they cant skill/flicker away before hc could just first skill silence then bam dead soft heroes
"Welp, she just became invisible."
Literally
In the hero usage page 😂
honestly this feels like a buff when youre fighting certain heroes like jawhead and Hilda it also makes baiting and running alot easier the only nerf i can feel is when diving into the enemy base and chasing other than that she feels the exact same you just need to be a little more careful and camp in bushes more also
Natalia roamer > Natalia jungle
I wish that they change the ult so the refill time is reduced if she gets kills/assists at least 20%, nata jungler doesn't suit her gameplay
@@frostincubus4045 that would be fantastic
Yea, unless they make her be able to kill monsters super quick, she's gonna still be roamer, her being able go roam constantly freely is whagsmakes her good, take that away and you get natafeedliya
@@asmodiasmobilemoba she can clear monsters easily even in the early game you just have to use jungle emblem which doesnt reduce her damage if you use flame retribution
i just don't like the playstyle
@@Pantatstic me neither
Moontons hero adjustment be like:
Any balances hero
-Gets Buff
-Gets Popular
-Gets into the banning section
-Gets nerf to the ground
-Gets revamp in the next few months
-Gets into the balanced section again
And the cycle continuous
honestly i’ve rarely struggled with natalia as i mostly use skill based fighters…
i think they’ve done natalia far to harshly compared to others…
the silence is just too short.
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minions can sometimes target her even if she's invisible, this must be a bug
What? You serious dude?
Yet hope they fixed it
No it's still happening 😭
Yes ikr, even on conceal state she shouldn't get targeted by minions
I was a nata main...Now I'm nothing main :)
Yes nat is a threat.But that's her purpose,to pose a threat is her job and if your team loses its their fault for not being cautious.Without that threat,she's like a basic attack reliant saber.Ruined.
I would prefer the old ult natalia that can use ult 2 times then cool down than now I'm a natalia main now i abandoned her because of the bad ult
Natlia is my 3rd main assassin
Now I don't use her anymore
It's pretty boring and she's pretty weak on this current nerf.
Lots of enemy picking a hero that can target her by skill
Here’s a/another fanmade hero of mine if you are interested. I left out some details again :p
Kenji lives beyond the skies and is a protector of the heavens. After he found out that the lands are in need of help, because of the rising population of abyssal demons, he decided to be a part of the team of the gods from the heavens who contribute to keep the balance in the lands. Kenji is able to control the winds and is known for using his powerful tornadoes and wind cages to deal with his foes.
On the battlefield, Kenji is a very strong support/mage able to continuously weaken enemies for many seconds with ease and without putting himself in big danger. He can be an easy target for burst heroes though and needs a team as well as the players good awareness to really shine!
Gameplay: Support/Teamfighter
Difficulty: Average
Kenji - Prince of Tornados (he/him)
Role: Support
Speciality: Crowd Control/Poke
Passive (Buff/SpeedUp): Kenji uses wind energy instead of mana and can cast his skills as long as he has wind energy. All of his skills can be tapped to activate and tapped again to deactivate them. He gains wind energy through basic attacks and has 14 segments of wind energy (14 segments = 14s of wind energy). 1 basic attack hit fills 2 segments. If Kenji has less than 7 filled segments, his attack-speed will increase by 35%. Kenji can use 2 skills at the same time, which drains wind energy twice as fast. Kenji moves with +30% Movement-Speed, when not using any skills and will reduce his movement-speed by 20% when casting one skill and 40% when casting two skills. Kenji can‘t increase his ATK-Speed, except with his passive (1% ATK-Speed -> 1p Movement-Speed). By the way, there is a 3,5s (0,1s reduction every level) delay, until Kenji can reactivate the same skill again (Ultimate has Cooldown instead).
1.Skill (CC/DeBuff): Kenji traps up to two enemy heroes in a wind enclosure at the designated location (when it’s 2, he needs double the wind energy). The icons of the enemies trapped will then appear above the skill icon and Kenji can throw them out when tapping on them. Trapped enemies can only escape if Kenji let’s them or they deal enough damage to break the wind enclosure (300-1550 damage needed, +20% when 2 enemies). The longer Kenji casts this skill, the more damage enemies need to do in order to break it (Each segment/second = +150-450 damage). Trapped enemies only receive 20% damage from Kenji‘s allies, but also have their damage reduced to 30%, both WHEN the damage travels through the winds (damage from trapped enemies to wind enclosure stays the same). Each time enemies cast a skill inside the wind enclosure, Kenji will get a heal (180-305, +20% Total Magical Power). By the way, enemies outside the wind enclosure can‘t free the trapped enemies in any way, also not heal or shield them.
2.Skill (AoE/Buff): Kenji continuously releases strong wind forward, which slightly pushes enemies back. Enemies who walk towards the wind will be slowed by 15->75% (based on distance, the closer to Kenji, the stronger). This skill deals damage every second (90-130, +30% Total Magical Power). This skill also blocks all small enemy projectiles (up to a certain size) and ANY enemy projectile, when it’s too close to Kenji. Blocked projectiles, will fly in the opposite direction and deal damage to enemies (damage of the projectiles reduced by 70%). By the way, allies inside the winds will gain a shield (based on 10% of their max hp) and a 10% movement-speed increase.
3.Skill/Ultimate (AoE/Burst): Kenji summons a tornado, which picks up enemies for 2s when they are too close and deals 150-250 damage every 0,5s (+25% Total Magical Power). After the 2s, the tornado will throw the enemy in the opposite direction of Kenji. The tornado automatically follows enemies, doing so rather slowly. If Kenji deactivates this skill, the tornado will slow down and will explode after 2s, dealing high damage (800-1200, +195% Total Magical Power) to enemies in a decently sized AoE. The explosion also slows enemies hit by 60% for 3s. Cooldown: 28/24/20
Thanks for readingggg
Thats interesting sounds like vales lost brother
pretty nope
Dopeee
I like her much as a roamer than jungler bcoz of her early game damage
I noticed the new Nat, I've been playing Nat from the time she had the scratching ult, she's always been mostly nerfed on repeat rather than power adjustment. Give her an execute or percent max HP dmg on her silence so that she can finish the job, because the new update takes the enemy HP to 20 percent and they'd oneshot you as a mage
yeah bro, i achieved multiple Supreme 1s on her but now she's just useless
@@hanabiilesley Exactly. I dunno where the ban is coming from. She wasn't even that strong before the nerf and now she's just useless and there are more better heroes for the jungler and roamer role now. This is ridiculous and less thought out by montoon. Just because she was always banned doesn't really mean she was OP, players just want to use mm and mage so then ban her instead of picking a hero that directly counters her, what is counter-picking for.
@@RaffyART1995 exactly, if you're mm and you're banning, you'd ban Nat, or you can have a Selena, Rafaela, popol and kupa or almost anyone with an aoe or burst like luo yi and your opportunity is limited, besides there's the cabbage and the vision thing near the base that reveals invisibility. Prio bans were usually yin,john, beatrix, Aldous, Julian and wanwan. Which were understandable that time, but Nat isn't anywhere near as op as those bans were. It was already risky going after a CC mage before this adjustment, now it'll be near impossible unless you're really fed
@@RaffyART1995 and the funniest thing is that at her peak levels of strength her impact on high elo games~1500+ was practically non existent
I do prefer her as a roamer as well coz killing jungle monsters forever feels like delaying yourself it sure is picked my many players but for me Natalia dire hit is best and to reduce the cd of ult I target the cockroach coz it has low hp and provides mana and recharges my ult
i didnt know there is cockcroach in the game lol🤣
I hope Natalia in invisible mode can see someone who seen her especially on the bush area.
She was my greatest fear has an mm main
But now no...
She's still your greatest fear hahaha you know if you use inspire on roaming Natalia your mm is basically 1 hit
@@DraudeCG now i have fear of saber
Bozo comes , ulits , spams recall and goes
Tbh I like Natalia as roam too ,but you need Tank Exp or jungle for the late game. Barrats ,Balmond , Akai, Esmeralda... I think you should mention that cause people just end with full assasin teams and no bulk in the Low Mythic and Legend
they really nerf her so bad because they change her to jungle natalia. if they didnt touch roamer natalia, she would still be balance.
I really don't think Natalia fits the role of a jungler, or even a side lane. It's very inefficient to use her as one. I prefer Natalia as midlane or roam instead, you can utilize her ability to open up the map much more for your team by constantly roaming around.
Gotta disagree on this. The silence duration nerf is a bit too much, she is more easily countered because you barely get to finish the combo. Maybe just remove the delay on her second ult cast, we can atleast get .75 sec silence which is still lower than before but better chance to finish the combo.
And minions can now target her even though she’s invisible.
I don’t know it is bug or not.
If it is bug,someone need to report that to moonton.
Well adjusted🙂🙂🙂This is the best Joke for a Natalia Main😂😂😂
I cried tears of blood when i saw these changes🥲
@Gray It's not well adjusted for most nata users. Maybe she's not your main. But she's literally useless now and got the same treatment as Harith.
I rly want the old Natalia she was gold and the fact that no one bans her or even know to counter her in the past was the best but moonton decided to ruin that bc they hate how she used to be. (Remember guys don't play Natalia if u want her to get buffed this decreases her popularity and I think it's the only way for Natalia to escape from those noobs thinking she's op when she's nerfed so badly ex: dmg is lower compared to before)
Not unless people see her in mpl. They only started using natalia when pro players used her.
3:47 - 3:49. For me, jungling just slows her down. 6:09. I think most players does not read the new updates, they just ban a hero that just got nerfed without even knowing. Or I guess they're just lazy to read 🤔. 10:43 - 10:48. I hope so.
Thank you for the amazing gameplay.
I know that Wan Wan got nerf, I still don't feel like playing against her, if my team feeds her, I will be clapped, about Nata yeah, I have no clue why she is banned that much
As a TOP 1 GLOBAL NATALIA RIGHT NOW, for me is more easy to steal the lord and enemy jungle buffs with the new Natalia ... also can t say that is really a NERF tho ☺️
Ohh I know you! You stalked my account
@@unknownplayer7742 did I 😌?
I even prefer the old "scratch" ultimate than this overnerfed one.
you forgot to mention that: if she has an exlamation point above her head for 0.6 seconds, she will be slightly revealed (kinda like lesley 1st skill)
He literally said that
before the update, ived been using natalia non stop in rank games but with these changes, i have abandon her completely. thanks moneytoon
All heros can counter her easily now actually. Her silence nerf basically destroyed her. P
She is no longer the Natalia we know my main is ruined
She just became a last hit queen , am pretty sad with the new Nerf that 1 sec silence was everything
Ever since they revamp her Ult,she never seems to get out of ban much.
She became really bad after the nerf. Dunno why she's still banned. Any hero can counter her now except mm of course.
Playing natalie will be hard, especially when playing in solo queue. Because not only your enemy but also your teammates may sometimes be uncooperative during the game. It is best that natalie user, beginner or veteran, play with their friends to avoid any negative situation such as feeding, going afk, or verbal abuse. Also, big thanks to elgin for showcasing natalie's skill adjustments. I hope player out there who seen this video could benefit this when playing natalie. Peace from Malaysia
Eh,natalia is easier on solo queue
@@nyx5334 it is easier in solo queue. But harder to put up with a bunch of teammates who you dont really know. Im saying, playing with friends has its own advantage. Especially when you are really serious in rank match.
The reason why natalia is such a unique and niche hero is because of her invincibility. If they make her visible after 0,6 seconds then might as well delete her as hero, because at that point she’s almost the same as hilda, “a bush assassin”. Except hilda is actually better, because at least she’s tanky. If natalia is broken then I think the proper way to nerf her is by reducing her damage, so she only can kill enemy with critical health, but leave her invincibility alone.
as a Natalia main, your positioning and targeting during clashes are the are the things you should focus on, work your way around the clash and attack from behind, literally 🤣🤣🤣
also did you know once Natalia is revealed during her passive, Zhask's minions can still target her despite not being able to be targeted
I don’t even attack zhask anymore for that reason. Way too risky
Zhask is way too annoying for Natalia. I usually wait until Zhask's ult is in cooldown or it's duration is done
@@nahfoo. man I feel your pain 😂
Same here. I'm more comfortable using her as a roamer rather than a jungler. I don't see her being effective in jungling.
Only epics ban nata these days
the only invisible character in the history of videogame characters that you can see with unaided eye.
BRING ME BACK THE OLD NATA T_T
CANT ROAM PROPERLY WITH THIS NEW ONE
ihonestly,i think she needs another revamp if there ganna turn her into a jungler..
her kit is too useless especialy when she needs the bushes alot.
she is easy to invade, lacks the burst she use to have,even layla counters her now when its supposed to be her to hunt layla,
fun fact(not so fun for natalia):natalia is the squishiest assasin/meele charachter in the game
also she cannot build defensive items cause her damage is too low so she is full burst build.
im sad on how she is forced to jungle when she is the most unique assasin,
like no other assasin is as effective as natalia roam.
i know all assasins are easy to invade early but natalia is just borderline useless even at level 4
even her stealth is badly nerfed like its ok if her stealth isnt nerfed,i used to steal lords with retribution with ease but now its not even possible.
maybe they should alllow her to go in stealth even when out of bush since its easy to see her now and have easy time after the nerf to conpinsate
The thing is, they want her to be a jungler which is fine but with her invisibility passive can be just refreshed via entering a bush is much easier. Aamon is the jungler that has the camouflage passive since he needs to cast a skill and only for a couple of seconds to be camouflage so if moontoon wants to make Natalia jungle either make her invisibility like aamon where it isn't permanent. I know many roam Natalia mains will hate this but it's just a suggestion if moontoon wants to make her a jungler
that literally makes her useless...unless they restore her silence and slow
@@ashishabraham2699 to be honest her kit is pretty much an assassin a dash that you can use in and out. A smoke bomb allowing you to claw and slow the enemies and an ultimate to reset your passive it's just that her invisibility makes her a good roamer instead an assassin
Yea that's what..making her like aamon that need skill cast to refresh the camo is just a big nerf...she used to be unique with true invisibility.. Now she's not even scary
Yea no that would entirely make her trash sorry dude...., she just needs to have more cool down from kills
Him at the start accidently press execute on creeps
i main Natalia (I still do and will never stop), and IMO roam is the best role for her just because of the dire hit and execute.. you may have noticed that her burst isn't that great anymore, so having that dire hit and execute is very useful for taking down enemies much faster.
it does have a lot of cons tho .. making her roam means you will need a team that can compensate for the lack of tank, and having a reliable front liner is still essential for better outcome in teamfights and natalia is very squishy to do that and mages and assassins can easily burst her with their skills, if you're playing with friends then this won't be a problem cuz they could just pick a tank or a tanky fighter and use them in exp lane or tank as jungle, but in solo queue your team will rarely adjust their pick or you'll be forced to take jungle role instead...not saying that jungle nat is bad, jungle is her 2nd best role imo, but she's not as good as she is back then in terms of damage, not to mention that it tends to fall off when it reaches mid to late game so you gotta need that dire hit..
and one thing that you always remember is that you need to maintain the pressure to the enemy team by abusing your early game potential because natalia is very strong early game and can easily score first bloods, it's best to keep on killing squishy targets especially the enemy carry and push lanes and always end the game as quick as possible. because in late game where everyone has immortality or wind of nature then natalia is less useful in teamfights so you need to pick fights very carefully or you can just split push since natalia is also good at that and can also back off safely if enemy tries to defend (unless ofcrs getting ganked by lesley and her team).
and always ban heroes that can counter you easily. i prefer to always ban diggie for many reasons I hate to talk about....
I love how you named it as "killsteal build"
Nerfs essentially killed the possibility of a roaming Nat. Long cooldowns on ult charges and the silence nerf makes her have little to no use as a roamer. You might as well use a different hero for offensive support like Kaja or Mathilda.
at this point moonton literally should just remove her from the game . like after this nerfed none will pick her in rank mode since everyone use mf AoE mage in game 💀
Sad to say that the developer of ML is always granting the wish and complain of row rank player. Natalia is easy to counter. Hylos, Xborg, Vexana, lunox, all fighter except Zilong. Effective counters are Matilda, rafaela, and tigreal.
It is good if moneytoon, buff the anti hero for natalia rather than bad nerf her. Or add an item that can support the allied in wide range.
Nah man she is still gonna be in the ban. The true invisible hero where u can't see her in rank games.
I was playing johnson and went to recalling with 1% HP, suddenly natalia attacked me and i managed to survive and cuase her to die, then i laughed at her nerf and she also laughed with me.... It's so sad for natalia's players
They buff her passive so much that we no longer see her in any match
*EVEN* *THE* *MINION* *CAN* *SEE* *HER!!!*
Edit:Still she always banned in epic to legend
Cyc skill 2 is auto lock. But it also still a lock skill. It cant no longer auto lock and hit current invisible nata anymore when nata is invisible
Now Layla beats Natalia 😂
Lol no as long she has her second skill basic atk dependent mm's can't do anything against her.
With wind of nature and flicker even layla can ez kill natalia now
Argus second skill also the best to counter invisible hero if they get hit by it
Idk if moonton made a potion for jawhead to not be able to throw teammates. Maybe idk enemies can actually buy some kind of potion that cost a hefty price (idk 1k) to reveal invisible units within 350 or 400 units for x minutes? Tbh the nerfs aren't doing anything since invisibility is overpowered when there are actually no item to counter invisibility. Take league for example they have sweeping lens and control ward which counters heroes that roams around with their invisibility. ML doesn't have any of those which makes invisibility somewhat the best mechanics that a hero can have
I really hate when I face against a Rafaela. The struggle of not being discovered is real 😂
Hylos exp and rafaela roam is fun against nat
what about saber first skill and valir all skills
Elgin: pne thing to remember is to aim for the squishy ones.
also Elgin: kills franco and uranus to get a double kill
I tried to play her as roam and base on my experience its hard now on early game but on late game she still can do her role as a assasin and still can deal the same damage like before.
Nerf her is proof that moonton is paranoia with 👻
Fact: (i don't know if it is a bug or something)
Being a cyclops main in my 3rd account, i can't kill a balmond without athena and oracle in this patch. I was so surprised by this because i can easily melt balmond before with magic penetration and anti-heal. My cyclops build against balmond was
1. Ice Hunter's Magic Shoes (Jungler because there's no jungler ally but they all stayed jungling in the game)
2. Enchanted Talisman
3. Necklace of Durance
4. Genius Wand
5. Glowing Wand
6. Divine Glaive (i sold Bruteforce breastplate for Antique Cuirass and it didn't work so i bought penetration in hoping for more burst)
My Emblem was Custom Mage Emblem with pure damage and Magic Worship Talent. I have 17-2-3 KDA but i can't burst balmond with this build so i lose the game.
Balmond build was
1. Ice Hunter's Tough Boots (Jungler)
2. Cursed Helmet
3. Guardian Helmet
4. Radiant Armor
5. Dominance Ice
6. Blade Armor
I can't believe balmond with only four anti-magic item was too tanky even without the athena shield and oracle while i have 2 penetration + glowing wand passive + magic worship passive + anti heal necklace.
Balmond's KDA was 11-4-5 but they won because his teammates were good on pushing the lanes while my teammates were in the jungle the whole game. I was one man team by the way it is like 1 smurf vs. 5 smurfs. I was a counter-build GOD so this is the first time i failed countering my opponent that i was so surprised because imagine a balmond with only 4 anti-magic items (blade armor and Dominance ice is negligible against cyclops' penetration) can't be bursted down by a full magic penetration.
Welp radiant armor is really good against dps mages
+ your team wasn't good
Moonton hit the heroes hard 💀
Meanwhile me as a Hanzo player crying in the corner. I think hanzo is one of the most unnoticed heros for developers right now
Shes been nerfed hard since the last patch, now shes hard to use and her pick rate goes down (being under 0,5%) but she still top 5 banned heroes, wtf! Idont know what the players want honestly she is not scary anymore
Francos predicted all the outcomes of his hook
but he's also a bit early on the hook
now even molina can find her, fighter like paquito, esme, thamuz can chase her even eve valir edora, gs always destroy her passive(.6s reveal is too low), enemy can react too fast(.25s silance is too low & slow effect also gone & ultimate have goddamn 3s cd), her conceal is totally useless as a protection (meta is full of skill caster)
But worst of all is that 0.6 s reveal; previously we can trick enemy in wrong path and escape from another path now tank-fighter will keep chasing us natalia can't even escape properly anymore
wow taking away the only thing Natalia was designed to assassinating squishies especially mms. great plan moontoon how about you nerf tank because they have too much hp, mage beacause cc is op, or supports because its not fair for the other team to have a free fountain.
just malding because of the nonsense that is beatrix getting away scotts free of nerf with only a reload adjustment
0:37 elgin try to steal the buff using execute 😭
4:31 Saber & Atlas left the chat.
Request Moonton have a 10 Ban and Role Selection please
Here u go
No more map anxiety RIP Natalia you will be missed~
at this rate shes only viable as A hunter( a hero that hunts down critically low Hp enemies)
They ruined this character she use to be literally invisible where you couldn’t see her at all now after 1 sec you can see her but she’s “invisible” they should’ve left her alone.
I still play natalia after the nerf but not that much anymore and i noticed that the minions always attacks me even when i am invisible i really hate that
I don't get it she nerfed so much and people still banning her wtf can't get to use my main😭.
The nerf this time was huge for me but not enough to stop her if you know her well
Franco missing his hook in the beginning was so hilarious 😂
I don't know
I think the better choose is nerf her damage not the conceal
Exactly. Montoon just made her useless and people still ban her.
I feel like they should add back her effect on her ult where it gets less cooldown for each kill, the point of natalia is literary to be an assasin killer, her ult is so far worse than karinas which is a better pick than natalia in most cases of being tanky yet powerful. Its not everyday you see a roaming assasin which in it of itselt actually sounds more logical than an assasin who can kill creeps. But yeah thats my take on it
Nata now is the worst assasin because she can easily get spotted and the ❗ Mark give away user position in the bush
Moonton tried really hard to make her as a jungler, unfortunately her kit is not that good for Jungling, she is much better as a roamer or a midlaner because of her early game damage and ability to rotate and harass enemies. After that adjustment where Moonton introduced us to Jungle Natalia, she's already not that scary anymore (for me at least).
natalia stocking ult nerf made him out of the banning section
Being nata main player and after update i literally stopped playing her. Ive switched to miya. First, nerfed damage update and then nerfed silence and invi was really frustrating.
nope..still ban listed...don't want to get a heart attack suddenly...and nowadays there are a lot of bugs in-game..
Elgin one thing u should do is attack squishy ones also elgin attacks low hp tank
She's not suitable as a jungle cuzher speciality is the passive instead of other skills.... I think if moonton wanted to make Natalia's a jungle is that make her enhance basic attack every 3 or 4 times ONLY to jungle creep, turtles and lord
Yup, that could work
Damn that Valir is playing like there's no tomorrow
I am once again asking for you to try out martis as a jungler 🙏
Moontoon should at least lower her detection range. This could help her a lot with these nerfs
I literally quit playing Nata because of this nerf
Thx Moonton
The hardest part of using Natalia on Solo Ranked
you should wipe enemies out of their base
no bush in the base
Idk why... They designed Natalia's kits that so fit for a roamer... And they forced her to be a Jungler
To be honest i prefer league of legends but i believe Moonton are making improvements and I respect every ML players choice. That aside, Riot’s league of legends are implementing new mechanics for 2023. Junglers will exclusively have pets to assists them in battles which is treated as permanent buffs/passives for example providing damage, tank, roaming/movement speed junglers. Junglers can decide which pet to use leveling up the pet like a Pokémon at the items shop on the battlefield. Riot is also adding a voting option to whether or not your team wants to fight for objectives or not. Adding more useful pings. Riot adds more mechanics every year and I’m just spreading the news just in case Moonton decides to add similar mechanics. I gotta admit though a voting phase for objectives sure would be useful during a match. I know everyone was hyped for ML’s new talent system and the majority reviews were actually good coming from many comments. Sadly it got cancelled before the lawsuit came to a conclusion. Let’s just hope they pause the talent system to make some adjustments.
Natalia now sucks. No more invi, no more Natalia😢
Even before her nerf, all I had to do is pick her direct counter which is Saber and problem solved