I love pat and Linda parelli. They are saving me. Everything makes so much sense and my horse is a difficult horse to handle because he has sussed me out and knows my soft spots, so gets away with murder. Pat and Linda your natural horsemanship methods seem to be changing him and I. I have hope where there was none. Im getting me a youngster to start from birth and I'm sure I'll have my perfect dream horse.
Thank you Cheryl for sharing your story with us and congratulations on being diligent with training. We are sure that your horse already is close to perfect and an absolute dream!
@@ParelliTube he's far from a dream but that's all my fault. Well some what. He's been traumatised I'm just trying to fix him. You guys are the dream makers. I and King George love you. Thank you.
I learned from Pat, decades ago, that if someone says, you can lead a horse to water......I was talking to a Commander on a Marine Base about some problems many veterans were having getting into programs they needed to stop being really bad boy veterans (bad girls too) and just plain needing help veterans. She said, OH we have all kinds of programs, but you can lead a horse to water........I said, well, THIS is your lucky day, I am a horse trainer, and I learned, be smart enough to make the horse THIRSTY before leading it to water.........Yesterday, a suicidal veteran referred to us made me think fast.......he is not excited about being part of our programs and helping other veterans.....guess I made him thirsty for life again..................God bless.
I'm having some minor issues with leading my horse. I just got him and he's testing me ALL the time seeing if I'll let him boss me around. This video helps! Thank you!
I agree with you. I'd change the world to this way if I could. It's the stuff dream's are made of. The world should learn the fundamentals, at least. Make horses happier worldwide.
I hate when people lead under the chin and they lead so closely because they think it’s preventing soemthing with it avtually causes something. Leading on a long line with a slack is key
Listen to your instructor, this is for people who are comfortable doing it, I like holding up close, because thats what the horses are used to, maybe his arent Love all the Parelli videos btw!
At the Hoosier horse fair in Indiana just in April I saw you do ur games and boy did it teach me well my mom kept asking me questions and I'm glad she did big fan of its pat
Bill Dorrance taught that the ground work should carry over to the saddle. You don't shake your reins when you ask a horse to back up from the saddle. He taught that if you hold a horse at the knot right under the halter, with your thumb pointed down and lift your hand up to change the feel in the lead line and releasing it as they back up one step at a time, it is the same presentation as lifting up a rein from the saddle when asking to back up. Brannaman teaches the same thing.
Have to hand it to Parelli, longer rope is a powerful tool when leading a horse. I've seen some horrible accidents from those leading with their hand under a horse's chin on the rope.
I have a lot of extra horses on property due to flooding two years in a row which caused a lot of places on low ground to be condemned. Every undamaged stable in the area is filled to capacity because of it. Because I have the facilities to house and exercise race horses a racing stable is housed in my biggest barn. They have a stallion and on the rare occasions he was taken out of his stall they were leading him by his beard. He had absolutely no way to move his head the leadrope was held so close to his chin. He got tied up with his head unnaturally high any time they wanted to muck out or groom him. Finally I offered to take him and put him in turnout for awhile daily because I felt so sorry for the poor guy. First the owner said "But he's a stallion." I agreed. He obviously is. Then one day when the guy stopped by to talk to me he noticed my nice well behaved horse was a stallion and was incredibly surprised. After warning me his stallion was 17.3 hands and might bite (as if I'd never handled a tall stallion before. Insert eye roll here.) He finally agreed to let me start turning his horse out instead of the poor horse standing in a stall and being taken for a rare short walk. Being allowed a much longer leadrope and several hours in turnout has changed that stallion's entire attitude. He starts calling out eagerly every time he sees me coming. It makes me feel good to have been able to offer him a change for the better however small it may be. He has also become far easier to lead. I don't have an available turnout close to his barn and I'm sure not getting any younger so I don't really need to be handling a fractious horse. I have great grandchildren and weigh 90 pounds so I probably had no business offering to take the horse out but I couldn't stand seeing him locked in his stall 24/7.
Dorrance never had trouble moving a horse forward or back even from a distance. He would "release" by dropping a coil and back they would go and would release them to go forward, he could get them to drop their head all the way to the ground the same way. He was very careful with how he worked that halter and lead rope and there were reasons for it. To each his own, I do prefer Dorrance's work, but different people like different clinicians. Keeps the world more interesting that way.
to horseanddoglover777....did you watch the part where Pat can yoyo Casper back? Do Parelli Level 1 and you'll have a safe partner who listens to you in all situations. And if your trainer doesn't like it...I'd look for another trainer who understands Parelli. Your horse deserves this and so do you.
No worries, you weren't rude at all. Believe me, I have had some people really attack me for not liking Clinton Anderson either. :) I don;t know Klaus, but I really like Bill and Leslie Desmond, his is a dying art I think. Lots of good trainers out there though. Take care.
All excellent. I would recommend, though, to not use a metal snap as the connector to the rope halter. When backing the horse the movement of the rope can cause the metal snap to hit the horse on the underside of his head. Use rope to rope, a knot as the connector.
The snap is is an asset to communication with your horse, it allows your horse to feel the rope so much sooner and much more subtly. It allows you to apply pressure slowly, and release pressure much more quickly giving clearer communication to your horse. When you don't have that counter weight, such with rope to rope, there is no quick release of pressure. The snap is designed as a communication tool. If there were ever a time that the snap hit's the horse under the jaw, it's never going to be as hard as another horse kicking your horse when they play dominance games.
I have a Arabian he was tought to lead without a halter he was broke free style.When I bought him I wasn't told this until I got him home and tried to lead him they gave me a rope halter with him but had a regular halter on him I tried to lead him and he pulled me and tried to take off running.How can I retrain him to lead on a rope?
Do you have a round pin? and can you let him out in a arena or a feld to run around once in a while? If I had a chance to work with your horse I would work him in a round pin five days a week for only 45 min - an hour using Pat Parelli's natural horse man ship. Best of luck! let me know how things continue for you with your Cob.
K I have a young horse he's about 8 months old and he doesn't want to trot or run while I'm leading him, he usually just takes his time while leading he's a lazy little guy. Any tips on getting him to run or trot while leading ??
rather than keeping him in a stable all day, try get him out in a field/corral, somwhere he can stretch his legs. he has lots of energy he cant let loose cuz he is standing still all day. as he is not in work either, he has no way to get rid of his energy so he takes it out on u when ur leading him. he doesnt need hard feed, hay is enough. try to get him out more, be a bit firmer so he knows he cant mess u about when leading either. if he's still hyper, try some calming supplments. good luck! xx
My problem with this is that my trainer taught me to lead with my hand close to the horses head, and she gets mad at me when I start to lead like this. If she catches me she'll tell me that the horse could run me over if he got spooked and that I have no control. Idk what to do.
And your trainer really thinks that your horse couldn't run somebody over when they are hanging in the horse's halter... How can anybody think that a 600 kg horse can't run over a say 80 kg human just because the 80 kg are hanging on his halter DIRECTLY in front of his front feet? It's a pity she forced you to do it this way. How did you sort it out in the end? Btw I experience it as something very save to lead a horse on a long lead rope. Horses react to wiggling because horses "wiggle" with their heads at each other, so you can always make them get out of your space easily.
My advice would be to do what she says if it's her horse. If it's your horse, explain to her what Pat said and that you'll lead your horse the way you want to lead him/her.
Ive had my filly/mare halter broke n leading with 4-5' behind me for a yr..she ran up on me n did the bit n twist on my shoulder..good thing i had 2 coats on or id been in the ER..2 days later..haltered her again..she tried it n i shewed her back...she was always patient n willing but if i dont work her 3 times a week she gets mad at me..n its been 6 weeks..now i dont trust her..my son said she has no respect for me..not sure any of them completely respect us
To the horrible comments below your the abusive ones, you are probably in the racing industry and they want their horses to be highly strung and that's why they lead them close to the lead rope snap and feed them a lot of grain and don't let them graze on pasture, so they can't wait to get out and run run run,I like leading my horse this way but was told by the people who work at where my horse to not do it that way which has really annoyed me, because they have been taught the old school way which is used in the racing and performance horse industry, this is western training and riding it's different thanks, so live and let live
What makes you think you have to work a horse before doing something with him? I don't. I do what I intend to do straight off because I trained my horse properly in the first place. I didn't do that during his early training either. He's full of piss and vinegar already. The last thing I want to do is get him all stirred up and excited before grooming or having a training session. I'd rather rub, scratch and groom him to get him feeling calm and relaxed if I plan to ride or try something new.
He has some good points about how a horse should lead, but I do not like the way he backs it up by shaking the lead rope at it. There are better ways to do this. Driving is getting Behind the horse, not shaking a rope at the front of them.
I love pat and Linda parelli. They are saving me. Everything makes so much sense and my horse is a difficult horse to handle because he has sussed me out and knows my soft spots, so gets away with murder. Pat and Linda your natural horsemanship methods seem to be changing him and I. I have hope where there was none. Im getting me a youngster to start from birth and I'm sure I'll have my perfect dream horse.
Thank you Cheryl for sharing your story with us and congratulations on being diligent with training. We are sure that your horse already is close to perfect and an absolute dream!
@@ParelliTube he's far from a dream but that's all my fault. Well some what. He's been traumatised I'm just trying to fix him. You guys are the dream makers. I and King George love you. Thank you.
I learned from Pat, decades ago, that if someone says, you can lead a horse to water......I was talking to a Commander on a Marine Base about some problems many veterans were having getting into programs they needed to stop being really bad boy veterans (bad girls too) and just plain needing help veterans. She said, OH we have all kinds of programs, but you can lead a horse to water........I said, well, THIS is your lucky day, I am a horse trainer, and I learned, be smart enough to make the horse THIRSTY before leading it to water.........Yesterday, a suicidal veteran referred to us made me think fast.......he is not excited about being part of our programs and helping other veterans.....guess I made him thirsty for life again..................God bless.
I'm having some minor issues with leading my horse. I just got him and he's testing me ALL the time seeing if I'll let him boss me around. This video helps! Thank you!
This, is the true way horses should be treated and trained. That's what I think.
I agree with you. I'd change the world to this way if I could. It's the stuff dream's are made of. The world should learn the fundamentals, at least. Make horses happier worldwide.
Me too
I hate when people lead under the chin and they lead so closely because they think it’s preventing soemthing with it avtually causes something. Leading on a long line with a slack is key
Listen to your instructor, this is for people who are comfortable doing it, I like holding up close, because thats what the horses are used to, maybe his arent
Love all the Parelli videos btw!
At the Hoosier horse fair in Indiana just in April I saw you do ur games and boy did it teach me well my mom kept asking me questions and I'm glad she did big fan of its pat
Bill Dorrance taught that the ground work should carry over to the saddle. You don't shake your reins when you ask a horse to back up from the saddle. He taught that if you hold a horse at the knot right under the halter, with your thumb pointed down and lift your hand up to change the feel in the lead line and releasing it as they back up one step at a time, it is the same presentation as lifting up a rein from the saddle when asking to back up. Brannaman teaches the same thing.
Have to hand it to Parelli, longer rope is a powerful tool when leading a horse. I've seen some horrible accidents from those leading with their hand under a horse's chin on the rope.
That's true.
I have a lot of extra horses on property due to flooding two years in a row which caused a lot of places on low ground to be condemned. Every undamaged stable in the area is filled to capacity because of it. Because I have the facilities to house and exercise race horses a racing stable is housed in my biggest barn. They have a stallion and on the rare occasions he was taken out of his stall they were leading him by his beard. He had absolutely no way to move his head the leadrope was held so close to his chin. He got tied up with his head unnaturally high any time they wanted to muck out or groom him. Finally I offered to take him and put him in turnout for awhile daily because I felt so sorry for the poor guy. First the owner said "But he's a stallion." I agreed. He obviously is. Then one day when the guy stopped by to talk to me he noticed my nice well behaved horse was a stallion and was incredibly surprised. After warning me his stallion was 17.3 hands and might bite (as if I'd never handled a tall stallion before. Insert eye roll here.) He finally agreed to let me start turning his horse out instead of the poor horse standing in a stall and being taken for a rare short walk. Being allowed a much longer leadrope and several hours in turnout has changed that stallion's entire attitude. He starts calling out eagerly every time he sees me coming. It makes me feel good to have been able to offer him a change for the better however small it may be. He has also become far easier to lead. I don't have an available turnout close to his barn and I'm sure not getting any younger so I don't really need to be handling a fractious horse. I have great grandchildren and weigh 90 pounds so I probably had no business offering to take the horse out but I couldn't stand seeing him locked in his stall 24/7.
Dorrance never had trouble moving a horse forward or back even from a distance. He would "release" by dropping a coil and back they would go and would release them to go forward, he could get them to drop their head all the way to the ground the same way. He was very careful with how he worked that halter and lead rope and there were reasons for it. To each his own, I do prefer Dorrance's work, but different people like different clinicians. Keeps the world more interesting that way.
to horseanddoglover777....did you watch the part where Pat can yoyo Casper back? Do Parelli Level 1 and you'll have a safe partner who listens to you in all situations. And if your trainer doesn't like it...I'd look for another trainer who understands Parelli. Your horse deserves this and so do you.
this is such a great video.
No worries, you weren't rude at all. Believe me, I have had some people really attack me for not liking Clinton Anderson either. :) I don;t know Klaus, but I really like Bill and Leslie Desmond, his is a dying art I think. Lots of good trainers out there though. Take care.
I have to walk my 2 horse to feed them at there feeding area is it ok to let my horse walk in-front of me ?
i found this video very helpful thanks
All excellent. I would recommend, though, to not use a metal snap as the connector to the rope halter. When backing the horse the movement of the rope can cause the metal snap to hit the horse on the underside of his head. Use rope to rope, a knot as the connector.
The snap is is an asset to communication with your horse, it allows your horse to feel the rope so much sooner and much more subtly. It allows you to apply pressure slowly, and release pressure much more quickly giving clearer communication to your horse. When you don't have that counter weight, such with rope to rope, there is no quick release of pressure. The snap is designed as a communication tool.
If there were ever a time that the snap hit's the horse under the jaw, it's never going to be as hard as another horse kicking your horse when they play dominance games.
@@ParelliTube I won't have metal around my horse's head. The signaling I do with rope to rope works very well.
Wonderful Gerry, we're glad that it works for you, we just wanted to share the function of the snap and the purpose it serves.
I have a Arabian he was tought to lead without a halter he was broke free style.When I bought him I wasn't told this until I got him home and tried to lead him they gave me a rope halter with him but had a regular halter on him I tried to lead him and he pulled me and tried to take off running.How can I retrain him to lead on a rope?
Oh my god this is so helpful
Do you have a round pin? and can you let him out in a arena or a feld to run around once in a while? If I had a chance to work with your horse I would work him in a round pin five days a week for only 45 min - an hour using Pat Parelli's natural horse man ship. Best of luck! let me know how things continue for you with your Cob.
K I have a young horse he's about 8 months old and he doesn't want to trot or run while I'm leading him, he usually just takes his time while leading he's a lazy little guy. Any tips on getting him to run or trot while leading ??
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@@gabriellerausch594 I'm sorry but this horse isn't even a yearling and you suggest whipping it?
Not sure if it would work but I never tried!
thanks
Wow brilliant
Good one . Not a monkey on a string . That's how I feel with web halteres.
rather than keeping him in a stable all day, try get him out in a field/corral, somwhere he can stretch his legs. he has lots of energy he cant let loose cuz he is standing still all day. as he is not in work either, he has no way to get rid of his energy so he takes it out on u when ur leading him. he doesnt need hard feed, hay is enough. try to get him out more, be a bit firmer so he knows he cant mess u about when leading either. if he's still hyper, try some calming supplments. good luck! xx
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My problem with this is that my trainer taught me to lead with my hand close to the horses head, and she gets mad at me when I start to lead like this. If she catches me she'll tell me that the horse could run me over if he got spooked and that I have no control. Idk what to do.
She's right. But it's better to be turned with your belly to horses belly than to his head.
And your trainer really thinks that your horse couldn't run somebody over when they are hanging in the horse's halter... How can anybody think that a 600 kg horse can't run over a say 80 kg human just because the 80 kg are hanging on his halter DIRECTLY in front of his front feet?
It's a pity she forced you to do it this way. How did you sort it out in the end?
Btw I experience it as something very save to lead a horse on a long lead rope. Horses react to wiggling because horses "wiggle" with their heads at each other, so you can always make them get out of your space easily.
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Very good :)
My advice would be to do what she says if it's her horse. If it's your horse, explain to her what Pat said and that you'll lead your horse the way you want to lead him/her.
Love it
Ive had my filly/mare halter broke n leading with 4-5' behind me for a yr..she ran up on me n did the bit n twist on my shoulder..good thing i had 2 coats on or id been in the ER..2 days later..haltered her again..she tried it n i shewed her back...she was always patient n willing but if i dont work her 3 times a week she gets mad at me..n its been 6 weeks..now i dont trust her..my son said she has no respect for me..not sure any of them completely respect us
Hi Suzie, Simply going through the first level of the Parelli Program can help you solve this issue. Safety is key and we teach this in Level 1
To the horrible comments below your the abusive ones, you are probably in the racing industry and they want their horses to be highly strung and that's why they lead them close to the lead rope snap and feed them a lot of grain and don't let them graze on pasture, so they can't wait to get out and run run run,I like leading my horse this way but was told by the people who work at where my horse to not do it that way which has really annoyed me, because they have been taught the old school way which is used in the racing and performance horse industry, this is western training and riding it's different thanks, so live and let live
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But what if the horse doesn't stop? He will be out in front of you then make a crazy turn around.
Lisa Schreiber the horse should stop because they trust you and you’re the herd leader
Lisa Schreiber you can yield his hindquarters too. That’s what you’re supposed to do if a horse is spooked.
use reward-based training and teach your horse to lead without a lead rope first
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@MrShadowdeth It means he gives the horse a work out before.
What makes you think you have to work a horse before doing something with him? I don't. I do what I intend to do straight off because I trained my horse properly in the first place. I didn't do that during his early training either. He's full of piss and vinegar already. The last thing I want to do is get him all stirred up and excited before grooming or having a training session. I'd rather rub, scratch and groom him to get him feeling calm and relaxed if I plan to ride or try something new.
Do what your trainer says,but don't do it super close. About 5-10 inches away from where his head is(maybe a little more) should be ok
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He has some good points about how a horse should lead, but I do not like the way he backs it up by shaking the lead rope at it. There are better ways to do this. Driving is getting Behind the horse, not shaking a rope at the front of them.
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Don't use the metal clip. When you are asking the horse to move back, that clip can easily hit the horse on his sensitive chin.
Pat, Pat, Pat.............did I see you holding a coil in the beginning............rookie mistake.
That little saying you have makes me instantly think that you deprive your horse of water...
Might want to alter it a little
That is the biggest bullshit I've ever heard 🤣