@@REB4444 If your buying a 5010 you should be able to ride dirtjumps and go down gnarly trails or just get the tallboy theres a lot of us that hit all the pro line chunky trails and djs.
Robin’s Egg V3 is the most beautiful color I’ve ever seen on a frame. And the V3s were sharp and poppy which made them so fun. This V4 looks like a little brother to the Tallboy, with muted aggressiveness and a tamer ride. Seems like the SOLO lost its identity. WTH Santa Cruz?!
The person who made the mini bikes has an Instagram I forgot the name though if you go to Santa cruzs Instagram and find the post about the bike the Instagram will be tagged
With the exception of the new pivot points, the changes aren't frame specific. I'm going to upgrade my V3 fork to a Lyric or 36 and my rear to a RS Super Deluxe, which should make it not only bike park capable but able to take on bigger hits out on local trails.
Would you say you can take this bike to places like Moab and Whistler? Or would you say a Bronson would be better. Currently riding a Stumpjumper short travel
Bronson would be better at the bike park, its hard to say with Moab, but the 5010 has more modern geo than the Bronson so its not very far behind in capability
@@toofarpunk you're right sorry now i saw it because when i entered the site i saw where it says 130mm but there it says for the back not for the front
The 5010 is probably going to be one of the best climbing 27.5s out there. If you want even better you're probably looking at its 29er brother the Tallboy.
I bought the Tallboy for the steep climbs where I'm at. However, I'm finding it to be limiting on descents (brakes, shorter travel, etc), and wishing I got a 5010 or a Hightower.
If you want to do jumps and playful style the small for sure. If you just want to ride down a hill stable then medium, but then at that point get a Bronson instead
I hear from some testers new high flow shock tune is sick on these bikes. As far as I know the chain stay length is increased with different link sizes, can you confirm?
low mode has more progressive shock kinematics, slackens the head and seat tube angles, lowers the bb, shortens the reach ever so slightly and drops the stack a little too
@@vitalmtb How do you feel like it holds up against a longer travel bike out there? I am riding a 130/130 29er and feel outgunned on some of the trails out there.
Couldn’t you do the same kind of riding on a Bronson? The geometry is not that big of a difference. Or does the 5010 really feel different when you ride it? I like the kind of riding the 5010 is marketing towards,... but I’m just wondering if that’s just marketing and you can do the same kind of riding just as easy on a Bronson...
Lol. Actually the Spec Enduro looks like a SC. SC hit it first. I think Spec may have been the first to go to the lower link driven suspension with the Demo (not sure), but that didn’t look anything like these. The Nomad and the Bronson had the lower link with this look before the Enduro.
I absolutely love these bikes and would love to win one. My question is why on God's green earth are they so expensive? Only rich people can own these. I mean I could buy 3 or 4 used cars for the price of one bike with no motor. Please explain this to me. To me this is completely idiotic.
all smartphones look the same, yet nobody complains. I love the look of the lower link vpp bikes to me it does not matter if someone else know what mode lmy bikes is as long as it rides great
Oh brother, another shameless advertisement posing as a review...like SOOOO many others out there. THIS is FAR from a 29er... summary designed to troll.
This old to new comparison is excellent. Not enough reviews do this to the same level of detail.
I’m on a gen 1 and am still blown away by it. These bikes are getting so damn good. Great time to be a mtn biker for sure.
Difference between Vital and other sites, Turman can really ride, thus with actuall credibility.
@@REB4444 If your buying a 5010 you should be able to ride dirtjumps and go down gnarly trails or just get the tallboy theres a lot of us that hit all the pro line chunky trails and djs.
1:12 the tires spinning match the frame rate so it looks like they aren't moving
5010 hover bike with carbon reserve wheels
@@justinmok2368 New Santa Cruz *_anti-grav_* tires
i dont know why but i think the old 5010 looks way way way better
Ya def. it’s so weird that they are changing all their bikes to lower pivot design
You ain't wrong. V3 looks sharp, new one looks fat and lazy.
I will hold final judgement if they ever have the purple color on the v4. But yes for now the purple v3 looks better.
Robin’s Egg V3 is the most beautiful color I’ve ever seen on a frame. And the V3s were sharp and poppy which made them so fun. This V4 looks like a little brother to the Tallboy, with muted aggressiveness and a tamer ride. Seems like the SOLO lost its identity. WTH Santa Cruz?!
Nah
So Santa Cruz now is apple?
Superb intro and review. Well done!
Literally searched this up right now 😂
I love the Vital reviews!
7:26 was that fork top out sound 🤔🤔
holy you guys ripped down shake and bake
1:05 where do you get that finger bike
The person who made the mini bikes has an Instagram I forgot the name though if you go to Santa cruzs Instagram and find the post about the bike the Instagram will be tagged
27.5 may still be alive, but no one will convince my 6’4 self to ride one over a 29er😂
I had one of these amazing bike really love it !
I wonder how this new Santa Cruz *_SOLO_* compares with the new IBIS Mojo4?
5010 VS Mojo 4 VS Scout
Jib bike Shootout.
evil calling, sb140, maaaaybe a remedy too b/c it doesn't really have the big-bike feel
With the exception of the new pivot points, the changes aren't frame specific. I'm going to upgrade my V3 fork to a Lyric or 36 and my rear to a RS Super Deluxe, which should make it not only bike park capable but able to take on bigger hits out on local trails.
I built mine up like that. Helm coil fork, and quadiem brakes. Its a blast at bike parks and local trails.
When is the new nomad coming ?
"... midlife crisis moves trying to recapture our youth aside..." cracked me up :D :D :D
i think the 5010 looks awesome!
Exactly right. BMXr in my youth, 5010 in my old age. Loving it. Next might be Bronson though since the 5010 is 'tamed' with the lower.
That quote nails myself! Ha!
Great review, with looking at a 27.5 playful bike, how would you compare the new 5010 to the Yeti SB140?
I am still waiting the Al version :(
Great video!
Careful man, some Eagle Karen is going to come after you riding around like that. ;)
Man, I don't even use the 42 on my Shimano cassette. How can you go slow enough to use the 52?
1x
Good for nasty climbs in the mountains. My old man knees thank me for the low gears when the trail goes straight up.
it does feel like walking pace, but it's clutch when you need it.
@@mtbcyclist I get that but you're going so slow that you fall over or your front tire bounces off the next rock.
It also lets you run bigger front chain rings.
Would you say you can take this bike to places like Moab and Whistler? Or would you say a Bronson would be better. Currently riding a Stumpjumper short travel
Bronson would be better at the bike park, its hard to say with Moab, but the 5010 has more modern geo than the Bronson so its not very far behind in capability
Brandon with the manny skills on point!
That's cool i didn't realize that Santa Cruz did size specific cs. Is that on all models?
This is the first time that they're doing it, just check the spec sheets for other bikes
it's a mini bronson..i like it!
with more progressive geo
at the santa cruz's site the new 5010 have 130mm no 140mm fork travel
It says 140
@@toofarpunk you're right sorry now i saw it because when i entered the site i saw where it says 130mm but there it says for the back not for the front
so hard to find a shop with this bike! Order online will take at least 2 months to get it.
Which model climbs the best? Trails near me have a decent amount of steep climbs
The 5010 is probably going to be one of the best climbing 27.5s out there. If you want even better you're probably looking at its 29er brother the Tallboy.
I bought the Tallboy for the steep climbs where I'm at. However, I'm finding it to be limiting on descents (brakes, shorter travel, etc), and wishing I got a 5010 or a Hightower.
nice video bro
excellent comparison, my height is 5.5 they recommend a size S or size M?
If you want to do jumps and playful style the small for sure. If you just want to ride down a hill stable then medium, but then at that point get a Bronson instead
Buying this. Probably going to buy the frame and rear shock and piece my own custom setup. I’m confident I can get this into the 28lb range.
weight weenie yikes
good thing is that the older v3 now will be on discount haha
Okay. Where can I get that mini bike toy?
Shrink a bike in the oven like back in the days Shrinkies 😂
I hear from some testers new high flow shock tune is sick on these bikes. As far as I know the chain stay length is increased with different link sizes, can you confirm?
It’s the pivot location that changes
Megatower with 170mm rear travel would be the KING.
If your average ride is BC double blacks that are nearly vertical haha.
eagle bike park baby! Shake and Bake...
Any news if they coming out with new chameleon
Which tires do you have on your older 5010?
What is the cost of this bicycle
Not offered in aluminum? 🤔
Another review said no one was buying them. SC was ending up with a lot of extra frames.
Can I have the v3 one?
Old gray color is wayyyy better than the new colors
What are the differences with the hi/lo flip chip??
low mode has more progressive shock kinematics, slackens the head and seat tube angles, lowers the bb, shortens the reach ever so slightly and drops the stack a little too
Where is this trail?
Did you ever find out where this was?
How do you clean that shock ? I mean really how do you clean it without removing the shock ?
Pressure sprayer
I have the lower link on my Bronson. No problem. Garden hose does the job.
What size did u try? I’m 5’9” so I’m between sizes
4:36
I'd go for a large if I where you, the steep seat tube angle will make the effective top tube a lot shorter
It's longer, slacker, but not lower. And the MSRP went up $1k. Yay us!
Where did you get those red codes?
lots of bribery
Does the finger bike come with haha
that's Santa Cruz's vid
Anyone know where these trails are? Boise?
Eagle Bike Park. So, yes. Boise.
Torn between '20 and '21 model, at 6'3" im leaning towards the '21 given the longer reach, can anyone confirm the stretch being noticeable?
Eagle bike park?
yup!
@@vitalmtb How do you feel like it holds up against a longer travel bike out there? I am riding a 130/130 29er and feel outgunned on some of the trails out there.
Only you can prevent turn bars, Spom.
the shirt don't work.
Is it a Spomer? Heck yes it is! (from Hottub Time machine)
_Evil the Wreckoning has entered the chat_
Apples to oranges much haha, 170 travel enduro sled vs 130 travel play bike.
Sana all
I like your flannel
jump right in and be stoked dudes
Does anyone know if there is an aluminum version coming out
Be a shame if not. Especially with a bike that just begs you to play with it on concrete.
Couldn’t you do the same kind of riding on a Bronson? The geometry is not that big of a difference. Or does the 5010 really feel different when you ride it? I like the kind of riding the 5010 is marketing towards,... but I’m just wondering if that’s just marketing and you can do the same kind of riding just as easy on a Bronson...
it won't feel as sporty, agile, light, or easy to climb
Not expensive enough.
You don't need a 5k bike to be fast. Get a good frame and suspension and go from there.
Same I only ride bikes $100000 and up
@@living4adrenaline a good frame and suspension that you dont really like wont put a smile on your face. Get what makes you happy lol
Yeti, for when Santa Cruz isn't expensive enough for you hehe.
In a nutshell it’s expensive 👍🏻
For those prices I’m sure it’s nice but I’ll stick with my v3
looks like a specialized enduro comp, then again could just be the colour
Lol. Actually the Spec Enduro looks like a SC. SC hit it first. I think Spec may have been the first to go to the lower link driven suspension with the Demo (not sure), but that didn’t look anything like these. The Nomad and the Bronson had the lower link with this look before the Enduro.
Yeti are pissed that everyone is stealing their colours these days.
I absolutely love these bikes and would love to win one. My question is why on God's green earth are they so expensive? Only rich people can own these. I mean I could buy 3 or 4 used cars for the price of one bike with no motor. Please explain this to me. To me this is completely idiotic.
Market forces control the price.
👍🙋♂️👌🌹🇮🇳
I own the old 5010
they literally all look the same
all smartphones look the same, yet nobody complains. I love the look of the lower link vpp bikes to me it does not matter if someone else know what mode lmy bikes is as long as it rides great
Because it is literally one of the best linkages out there. Plush af and pedals almost as well as a DW link.
i’ll say it again evil calling
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1:30 rip bearings
MAZDA
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One of the differences is that it only comes in bad colors.
It's a bike just ride it
Yay. Another overpriced Santa Cruz.
No alloy....boo
Ugly new frame (((
Carbon wheels? Psh!
No need for a trail either I guess.
Sadly... You guys lost me at $4000 starting build price.
No money
I just came here to ask why would anyone care. Geometry tweak reach increase. Blah blah
Progressive suspension, size variable chainstay lengths...
The shock tune seems like the biggest difference. That isn't frame specific....
Wait... it is different lol. Just mocking the usual ‘new bike’ that isn’t really new.
Because we wanna see what Danny’s gonna be riding.
Oh brother, another shameless advertisement posing as a review...like SOOOO many others out there. THIS is FAR from a 29er... summary designed to troll.