High Quality Speed Painting! Grisaille + GW Contrast Hack
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#AgeofSigmar #Speedpainting #Skaven
The hobby community: Look! Completely new awesome technique! Never seen before!! Slapchop! Paint your minis in no time!
Marco: Hello guys! Today we will paint using Grisalle, a classic academic approach to comprehensive usage of value and volumes.
Love your work Marco. Keep the paint flowing.
Haha! That whole 'slap chop is a great new thing' has been grinding my gears :D
@@tomdanvers omg same
@@stewartfrancis9188 Being fair Rob (of SlapChop fame) knows it's not new. He's just leaning into 'the bit' and is better at marketing than most people. He knows the power of a catchy name!
@@sirbobulous imo, leaning into 'the bit' for clicks and likes is even worse. Especially because it's taking a centuries old idea and trying to pass it off as your own.
@@fallenweeble7453 But he doesn't? In the first 5 mins of his video he points to other people using drybrush base layers+contrasts (epic duck studios, tale of painters) and suggests people check those out. He's not claiming some great invention. He's just sharing the technique in a way packaged for people who want to speed paint an army with the minimum technical ability.
They look amazing even just in black and white
And that’s the problem 😂 I fail in the first step 😂
@@gnol4688 yes me too!
My white is like "too much pigment" or "Drink, this is water now".
Found this while looking for reference for my Cheesestealer Cult, and holy shit yeah, this man's shading is gorgeous
I'm in between two big workshops and these are precisely the main topics I'm bringing "on tour" these days, so this video is part an anchor for old and new students, a video reference/preview of the workflow and its general mindset, and part me stretching and exercising to be ready for this weekend's event :D Enjoy!
Was hoping to make it to your Dublin workshop, Marco, but will be away that weekend. Definitely coming to the next one! Hope you have fun 😁
Where may I find more information on your upcoming workshops? Any plans for Germany or Denmark/Sweden?
@@NightfallTH I regularly spam news of the upcoming events on all my socials! Your timing is great because there's something in the planning phase both for Germany and Denmark 😉😉😉
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM awesome, looking forward to it :))
You are the best miniature painting artist on TH-cam.
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When I first got into the hobby circa 2001, there was a guy at my local shop everyone referred to as 'Son of Milkman'. 10 year old me had no idea why that was funny but I did know the guy was a wizard. I was stuck in the realm of base coat > layer > highlight; I hadn't even graduated to using washes. He took the old application of painting with inks and "boosted" them by putting his values down first. It blew my tiny prepubescent brain, how quickly he could build up so much contrast in so few steps.
A couple of years ago, I returned to the hobby and underpainting and undershading are now common practice. I still think about that bloke and how he elevated what I thought was possible when painting little toy soldiers. Your videos give me the same vibes as watching him all those years ago.
Your dad's not a milkman is he?
I'm sure you know, but if you are just doing a bunch of models, you can prime first with black, then use a white primer and spray from above the model to do a similar effect quickly. Not as high quality, but it's ok for doing a lot of models at one time.
I watch other painters content to get tips and tricks, but I watch Marco Frisoni to learn how to paint.
I love this so much! One side effect is that this approach can also allow you to practice NMM in a safe manner, as, in the greyscale stage, you can focus entirely on the values and contrast alone, without the additional complexities of chromatic tones. That way, something as complex as NMM is broken down into smaller chunks of mental load and becomes much easier to manage for beginners. Excellent stuff, as always!
I can't get enough of this method with grisaille. So awesome.
Just finished priming and zenithil highlighting an entire set of monster for a game. Now I feel like I should go strip them all and do it this way. Man. Learned so much here today!
Amazing. The greyscale and the full color are both so beautiful but in completely unique ways. Well done!
I'm comfortable now with the all 'black undercoat + zenithal white ink + black oil wash > make up sponge + acrylic white drybrushing' grisaille technique but this one is far superior. I'm gonna try this white gouache application tomorow! (Every time you publish a new video, I buy some paint the next day, what an odd coincidence :D )
Marco is the true artist from the mini painting community
You are the best Marco
I can't belive what I've just seen! I don't really like painting at all but you are true inspiration to do that anyways :)
Good boy Marco!! 🐶
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I take way too long to be able to realistically paint bulk batches of minis. This should help me a lot!!! I can't wait to try this technique! Thank you so much for the great tutorial and expert tips!
Even though I own almost the complete line of contrast paints, I have been mixing contrast medium with artist ink (any inks really) to combine the great properties of both. It seems something that is right up your ally, Marco!
I take this same approach (and don't have any contrast). Just mix liquitex inks with vallejo glaze medium is also a great combo.
@@draadhaai did a test where I compared 7 different options for mixing up my own "contrast paint". The contrast medium and the glaze medium did act differently. Contrast covered more and created less highlights, glaze medium covered less and created more highlights. Both should have their uses
Outstanding. Again. Keep it up Marco, your contribution to the community with regards to teaching the understanding of effectful painting processes is unmatched!
Taking this method to my table tonight, thanks for always being inspiring. My next goals are trying to develop such interesting color pallets as you do - and bring more visual interest to my models. Rock on Marco, I hope to catch one of your classes at some point in time.
As always: highly inspirational. I immediately painted my Oldhammer Quest Heroes en gresaille, albeit not as speedy or good as you. Still highly enjoyable. I did not know how I wanted to paint them and this technique allows you to focus solely on light and texture. Millie Gracie!
Stunning. I have never seen this technique before and I can’t wait to try it. Thanks for sharing your talent!!
Greetings and respect from Finland! To my eyes these are the most exciting, imaginative and true cartoon fantasy-like Skavens I’ve ever seen. Superb job, and just blows my mind you did this all in 5 hours. Maestro!
One of my favorite videos yet!
Hey Marco, it was really great for myself, son and wife to meet you at the Bad Moon Cafe two weeks ago. Loved this video, well all of the NJM videos to be honest, keep 'em coming!
Grandissimo Marco, mi trovo sempre a mio agio con il tuo stile di pittura. Questo metodo lo uso e mi piace moltissimo oltre ad essere utile per migliorare. Bravissimo
Amazing will certainly try out the sketch lines to highlight before. The models in just the black and white looked awesome.
Excellent video. I was thinking this old painting method would work with glaze mediums and contrasts. So great to see you show it works.
I like teh way this technique turned out. I'll give it a shot. Thanks for sharing.
great video. I love the way you use contrast paints (mixing, adding retarders, etc.)
Slapchop 🎉
there is a big difference it seems in the way the gouache gets applied on the surface vs acrylic. it looks like you get a lot of unique texture and variation in opacity when you use the gouache. very interesting to see
Yeah I noticed that too. I'm gonna get that liquitex gouache tomorow to test this technique. It's very intriguing.
Love the Tilean accent... Oh and the paint job is great too
6:10 "Yeah, let me just casually dot the eyes while I'm casually defining the light"
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I picked up the idea from your last grisaille Video with the Malifaux Minis and did that for a Year now. Funny to find this video when returning for more Input :D
I sincerely thank you for the awesome content, it is a real game changer
Amazing video! This is something I feel I can do to upgrade my paint jobs :) Thank you :)
Marco, your simple and easy is my god tier level lolol this quality is like helldive level for me 😂😂🎉
This is amazing. Thanks for the lesson in Light and control:D
Wow. It looks great and it is done so easily 😳
Awesome I was Just starting to pratice the slab job technique so I cant wait for this video!
With 1h per model that's epic cool!! I strongly wish myself 🙈
God I so hope I can make it to at least one of your mind blowing classes! You are an inspiration ❤️
I absolutely have to try this technique!! Thanks for the awesome video Marco!
You have an amazing style. Love your vids
😍😊😍 Thanks a million man!!!
Love it. Great demo and explanation. Thanks much, Marco.
Beautiful work, Marco!
Nice! Cool thing is you can use the older warcry video for the dark elf side
Hahaha yeah they are almost the exact same models!!! #noshame lol
Super content once more Marco! I'm going to def. try this approach. So far I only used black with either a smooth white or a drybrushed white. Spending more time on the black and white sketch makes more sense now I've seen it demonstrated.
Marco, you are an absolute master. You always blow my mind and make me want to get better at painting. I'm still a newbie (second year of miniature painting) but I want more and more. I want to try this sketching technique with a set of minis. Thank you very much from Spain!
I'm definitely going to try this.
fantastic as always.
You are truely a, if not the, maestro. You are the same for miniature painting as Sandro Botticelli was for art in general
These look amazing, Marco! Congratulations and thanks for sharing!
A couple of questions, though:
How would you adapt Liquitex Inks for the job of GW's Contrast line? Just medium and retarder, too?
How would you compensate for the blue undertones in most blacks when glazing over yellow paints, as they might tend towards the green side of the spectrum?
I miss being able to show up at the premiere, but work's got me busy at the usual time!
Hope you're doing well!
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
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Truly stunning amazing work! Always love watching your content (though I don't often comment). Thank you for your continued dedication to the hobby and sharing. ❤️
What a legend!!! So cool can't wait to try this out!!
this was a great video, I will try this out ! thank you Marco !
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Already put a like on this Video ! I know it will be very interesting (And Skavens are my favourites !) 😛
Going to try this on my Zombicide set. Cant wait to give it a go. I think zombies will be a good subject for this method. Now to figure out the accompanying super cool accent ;)
This is one of the coolest projects I've ever seen. I love how they turned out. How does one learn to paint in greyscale? I know, I know, practice. What I mean is what practical knowledge do I need to achieve this and where do I find it? Thank you, Marco.
Thanks a million!!! And this is one of the best questions ever! Take any picture or cool illustration you like, turn it in black and white on your phone or pc and study how the values make all the heavy lifting 😉. Drawing books and tutorials are also super useful because drawing with pencil on paper you have to create the same kind of 3D modelled greyscale from the empty 2D white page!
Brilliant video. Looking forward to trying this out. Been on my radar since your Malifaux grisaille video, but now I HAVE to try it :D
Super effective and clear breakdown of the main stages. That medium retarder water combo comes our very natural and approachable and fun. Always top notch content thanks a lot 🤟😉👍
As always, an excellent execution of amazing technic into beautiful work... love it man!! I'll give it a go on some of my Cursed City models ive got waiting on me... just build and cleaned the entire setup... loads of plastic just waiting for paint... this will help me get through them more quickly!
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Love the process, gonna give it a try :)
I’m not gonna lie here, the black and white was absolutely stunning. 🖤🤍
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I tried to do grisaille for the first time this weekend. Realized I am terrible at it. I think one of the most challenging parts for me is getting a good mix/consistency of the paint. Also realized that leaving black anywhere you want to see color is a horrible idea as the contrast paint loses out every time vs. black.
Wow 👌
Considering that in 2 days I'm going finally to attend the class, this video helps me to understand better the underpainting! :D in the case of inks (like Liquitex or similar) what approach would you use? I know that inks are more saturated... would you use more water and medium to dilute the inks?
Mitico Marco
Would you consider doing some guides on painting miniatures with heavy body artist acrylics?
I'm really curious how you would approach painting a mini that way.
Oh yeah absolutely! I made a big investment of Schmincke PRIMAcryl during Christmas to boost my collection of Liquitex Heavy Body so you'll see them a lot in the next future 😉
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM AWESOME can't wait!
man i would love to see your take on a sylvaneth model.
Where can I find these models :O, they look awesome and I don't think I've ever seen these before! As always great paint job, perhaps one day you can teach me in person. If you ever decide to do a special series on making a noob a pro, I volunteer as tribute!
They are part of the nethermaze starter set for warhammer underworlds.
This grisaille method is exactly what I've always been looking for. Are there more video lessons on your technique with this? It's such a wonderful method.
Absolutely mind blowing !
I have to admit one thing, I loved the models in black and white too haha
I really have to try that grisaille. Can a noob achieve it... ? That will be interesting anyway I guess !
Oh my lord. I freaking love this comicy sketchy highlighting style I NEED to learn how to do it… but where do i start?
Thank you!!! The best way to start is to study artworks and illustrations turned in black and white; all the visual information you need is there!
I’ve watched nearly all of your videos. They are truly inspirational. I wonder If you have any plans to any free hand designs. Painting designs on shields for example. Thank you for your work 👍
You sold me on your style with this easy-to-follow video, Marco. Inks would work fine in the place of the contrasts for the initial staining?
😊😁😊! Sure inks are great for this; you just need to tame them with a bit of extra dilution and maybe a drop of medium!
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I love the look of the grisaille painted minis, and I would love to have that the finish for my Infinity models. I don't have the brush control or precision for what you've done in this video, do you have videos dealing with how to get better at that?
Hey Marco great content like always! Question, what kind of medium did you used? Did you use contrast medium?
was the medium contrast medium from GW, or can you use acrylic matt medium from liquitex as well?
Dam fine lookin rats you got there my friend
Hi Marco, thanks for this awesome video!
I have a Question: Without contrast paints does this approach work best with inks and medium? Do I lose to much of the value dynamic using "normal" or more opaque acrylics?
Wonderful video, I’ll have to try it! It’s the perfect video for me because I’m kind of averse to using oil paints because it would be another set of products I’d have to buy, but I already have most of this, just need the retarder and gouache medium.
Do you think that this would work if instead of greyscale I used yellow to give a warmer end result?
Absolutely yes! And you can adapt the tones of the underpainting to any kind of atmosphere: check this video 😉 th-cam.com/video/NGdlZqfFv10/w-d-xo.html
Great question! Thanks for the link Marco! This video was a great balance of transparency and opacity.
Omg must try, wonder how it'd go at 10mm warmaster
It's a great way to work on really small models! Less steps and less stress on micro volumes!
Hello Marco, just discovered your channel, very nice ! Instant Sub ;)
I use a very similaur technique that's also fast, but the results are also more "tabletop quality" and not as detailed as your (amazing) work^^
To put it simple : black primer, light grey zenithal, some accentuations on details, and finally basecoats of what fancy the models with TAP Speedpaints^^ Finished a 10 Sicarians squad in +-12hrs :)
Very fast and efficient for batch-painting, and the result on the table is very satisfying :)
Anyway, thanks for your video, I'll try this on my next HQs I think ;)
Hi Marco. I missed this video, only watching it today. This is definitaly a must know technic. You say you spend only 20min for each model to set up the black and white values. It seems your white is quite diluted, almost as a glaze... any tips to achieve such a quick painting with this diluted coat (I guess you need at last 2 or even 3 coats to get your white gradient) ?
Thanks! The trick is to work with different consistencies and opacities at the same time; layering full layers takes more time but if you already have an idea of the right values to use you can apply more opaque white on the upper parts and delicate, translucent touches in the lower midtones and shadows!
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM ok so you have a glaze consistency so that you can have translucent layers were you want and you make "stains" on purpose where you want it to be brighter ?
If I was going to recreate this with, say, pro acrylic transparent line, would mixing with contrast medium be necessary?
I tried, but I sucks when I want to blend the white.
Anyone else watch these and just think HOW???? I feel like it takes me an hour just to paint a boot brown sometimes lol
Marco in your opinion is the "dead layer" used it oil painting with ivory black, white, and burnt sienna too subtle for our tiny miniatures?
It's great to set a mood and break the flatness of the primer even in our tiny scale! You can also start with a base of more basic/saturated colours if the model is set in more powerful fantasy lights
I didn't know you could do so much with just white paint...really, just white paint.
Hello Marco, superb... > Have you the miniatures Skaven Reference? nothing in Games Workshop and i like this model+++ thank you very much
What about speed paints? Would they work the same way to contrast?
Really awesome work Marco, what do you think about to prime in a mid-dark grey instead of black to get a lighter result?