8:12 neglects to point out that the 1997 Live Entertainment DVD is still the only home video release that has the original theatrical 5.1 Cinema Digital Sound mix from 1991 and for that reason is hugely important for purists and those averse to revisionism .All of the others after it have been tinkered with uncluding the Ultimate Ed and all the blurays and UHD
Thanks for including that. If T2 ever gets a revamped 4K release, I may revisit this video with updated information like this. I’ve been hoping to find the THX Theatrical Cut Laserdisc which has this 5.1 soundtrack.
Great vid mate. I agree it's a shame we've never really had a definitive HD release. The ultimate edition DVD was great but the blu rays have all fell short.
I feel like the DVD's predating the Blu Ray and 4K are the best in my opinion. They just feel the closest to what appeared on the Laserdisc and in theaters (excluding the Ultimate Edition), and overall give you so much more value than any new remaster can offer.
WOW! I really enjoyed this feature! Spectacular man! Keep doing stuff like this! I have always been a big fan of T2 and the whole Terminator franchise. And its so exciting that a new terminator is in the works and by that time I'm sure there will be yet another more improved 4K version of T2 with the extended cuts remastered. For me, I really like the 4K transfer, it wasn't perfect but I was satisfied with it. The film looked better than it ever has!
I have the extreme edition dvd and am perfectly happy with it. This was an incredibly entertaining and well researched video. I love all of ur content, especially your horror commentaries. Definite thumbs up!👍
the best home video release of this movie is the 2015 blu ray, it's literally the only release I know of on the format that has the original grain intact without DNR issues
The 2006 Blu-ray is a straight port of the D-Theater tape, but comes with its own compromises: The theatrical cut only, on a BD-25, with lossy audio, and no extras but the commentaries. And we didn't get the 2015 disc in Canada, unfortunately (just Skynet Edition licensed out to Alliance and Mongrel Media). Even with its own DNR woes, Skynet Edition looks great next to Vaseline Edition on the 4K.
not necessarily, 100 to make it, 100 to market it, even if the theaters take 100 more thats still 200 left over. The studio would be happy. However, with inflation now, 500 million worldwide would be be gigantic but so would a colossal budget.
Awesome video! Very informative and entertaining look back on the different formats of T2. You should do more stuff like this. I love to see one on the Evil Dead films as there have been so many releases of them on various formats. Oliver Harper brought me here from his facebook link to this video, and I'm glad I gave it a watch. Brilliant from start to finish. I look forward to what you do with this in the near future. Thanks and have a good day!
Thank you so much! It was a really long time putting this together. I was researching stuff back in December, and hit some technical issues with disc rips and such which delayed things a few weeks. There are some other films that do invite this form of analysis, but I'm going to ease off as this was indeed an intensive video to make.
Terminator 1 was Orion Pictures. Terminator 2 was TriStar Pictures (part of Sony Pictures, only the theatrical release, and the digital version such as Vudu has the TriStar logo)...
Wasn’t there a MUSE HD Laserdisc that got released in Japan? Also, the extreme edition DVD did come with an HD version that required windows vista and some weird software to run, but you could watch it in HD.
Not sure about Muse LD. I don't know if there are any online databases that document those. The Extreme Edition did come with such a version, but I've always had Apple computers. So, I never was able to access it.
T2 is one of the greatest movie-going experiences of my life. It is arguably the greatest action movie ever made. Ive bought so many different copies of this masterpiece, including HD DVD and laserdisc. The Ultimate Edition DVD is probably the best release of any movie on home video... ever. There were so many special features and the menus were so cool and interactive. I also love the sneaky easter egg where you get to watch all three versions of the movie. Despite truly disappointing home video releases like the 4K Blu-ray - which i bought, T2 is arguably the greatest sequel ever made.
The first time I saw t2 I was blown away by how great it was as an action movie and amazing sci fi movie on vhs dvd and on laserdisc and blu ray but terrible on 4K
I best thing about The Extreme edition dvd were the commentary and the outtakes/bloopers at the end of one of the featurettes. I just wish we got to see more outtakes/bloopers and that they would have been ported to the blu rays and 4Ks.
I liked the Ultimate Edition DVD and I thought it was pretty good. I like the ending in the Special Extended Edition DVD because it was a proper sendoff to the franchise after what Sarah Connor has been through. If some people didn't like it, that's fine with me and I don't have a problem with it.
I was wondering which version i should buy. I think i'm gonna go with Extreme Edition on DVD. I'm sure Lionsgate will release more editions with the new movie coming up.
I tend to focus on the major format releases in these. The one time I decided to delve into more obscure formats for a recent Star Wars video, I ended up having to cut about one-third of my video out because there were no materials or captured footage to utilize to make the video purposeful. I put myself through a long wringler of research where a large chunk of just got thrown out and not mentioned at all in the final video.
@@ravensfilm I probably watched one of the most rare and obscure Star Wars. I’ve never seen one. Combination 8 mm film and record.! if I am not mistaken, the CDI version was original laser disc made to MPEg
Ooooo goood one man. I'm trying to really decide what stuff to get now on bluray/ 4k so things like this are useful. I have the Extreme edition for myself as my player can is regionless, where as I have a R2 Scandinavian edition for my freinds to borrow when they want to watch the theatrical cut. the case for that is nice, check it out when you can. Plus I have the 2001 UK steel case one for directors cut.
I remember waiting at the Video store called Video Connection for UPS to come and deliver their shipment for my special edition laser disk on launch day still crazy to I think I spent $125 on it
Brilliant video! I’ve got the skynet edition, and the 3D Blu-ray from here in the UK. I was severely disappointed with the new restoration, mainly due to the lack of Extended cut restoration and severe DNR. The 3D is good, but I can’t help going back to the skynet edition, true it has DNR but it’s not nearly as bad, has all 3 cuts looking exactly the same, and packed with special features. Which would you say is the best Blu-ray release?
does anyone remember a special order/fan-club type of product that was offered with an early release of T2 on VHS? I remember my parents mailing in some sort of coupon, or calling a 1-800 number on the VHS box, to order some sort of special collectible that the studio offered with the home video release. Cannot remember what it was for the life of me!
I tried looking around quickly, but I couldn’t find any info on a mail-in offer. Nothing noted in the few TV ads here on TH-cam either. Maybe someone else will know something about it.
Magnificent video. I have to add something about the new 2017 Bluray (1080p one) They seem to have botched the contrasts because, to me, it seems they took the master for the UHD bluray, tonemapped it to SDR (Since the UHD is in HDR) and fiddled with the contrast, brightness and colors to make it look not opaque and made the colors more staturated. If you convert the UHD and tonemap it to SDR with FFMPEG, you will see what I mean. They also oversharpened it and that made a lot of halos, which are very visible on light post, fences, etc. I did Bluray for myself with added grain (since they DNR way too much), correct contrast and brightness and way less green. I'm working on getting it dehaloed, but it's the hardest part. I will upload a sample to my channel if you are interested to see it.
Yeah, that doesn't surprise me considering how half assed the entire release was. It escapes me why StudioCanal mastered this the way they did. Cameron was clearly involved, but for a guy that's so high up on making use of new tech and expanding the cinematic experience, this doesn't reflect that mentality much at all. I think he cared more about the 3D conversion than anything else.
I will say that the poor people that worked on the discs were tied to what StudioCanal gave them. It sucks. BTW, I will give you a link soon with my own take on the Bluray IF you want to check it out. I'm encoding it now.
I just got the 2015 BRD and it doesn't include any commentary tracks. WTF? Not as bad as excluding the mono track on T1 but it's still a big oversight.
Yeah, in trying to free up space on the disc they sacrificed some bonus features. They should’ve just done a dual disc release to maximize what they could include.
You glossed over the first DVD a bit quickly, the original THX DVD has the CDS theatrical surround cut audio mix which is best audio mix from all T2 home releases. Oddly enough, I've also heard the canal studio HD-DVD release is best overall release on the market.
Yeah, I’ve heard more about that original mix in the proceeding years. If I ever obtain additional releases of T2, I will try to produce an updated video, and discuss the sound mix more.
I have several laserdisc releases and the early DVD releases, and that's fine. The color timing for the most recent 4k version looks like absolute garbage
You're welcome to your opinion on that, but the vast consensus is very much standing in opposition regarding this as one of the worst 4K transfers out there. Since I've gotten my own 4K setup, I threw the UHD disc in, and it looked worse than the standard 1080p Blu-Ray. Some of the new 4Ks of Cameron's films are also getting hit with a lot of criticism as he's applied DNR and A.I. upscaling and refinement tools to pull away a lot of the organic looks of Aliens and True Lies. The Abyss looked pretty good for its theatrical re-release in December, but it wasn't perfect. It seems to be the one that got tinkered with the least.
@@ravensfilm Yes Ive heard about people not being satisfied with the 4k, and now The Abyss coming in for criticism. I guess its pretty divided on this. Maybe when T2 gets to its 40th, Cameron will have a transfer that most people will be happy with.
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Note: The version of the film on HBO Max seems to be using the 2015 Blu-Ray master.
I watched it on opening weekend
Terminator 2:Judgment Day is my favourite movie of all time
Great video, thanks to Oliver Harper for the recommendation.
8:12 neglects to point out that the 1997 Live Entertainment DVD is still the only home video release that has the original theatrical 5.1 Cinema Digital Sound mix from 1991 and for that reason is hugely important for purists and those averse to revisionism .All of the others after it have been tinkered with uncluding the Ultimate Ed and all the blurays and UHD
Thanks for including that. If T2 ever gets a revamped 4K release, I may revisit this video with updated information like this. I’ve been hoping to find the THX Theatrical Cut Laserdisc which has this 5.1 soundtrack.
Excellent work here..well done..one of the best sequels ever made YES!!
Great vid mate. I agree it's a shame we've never really had a definitive HD release. The ultimate edition DVD was great but the blu rays have all fell short.
I feel like the DVD's predating the Blu Ray and 4K are the best in my opinion. They just feel the closest to what appeared on the Laserdisc and in theaters (excluding the Ultimate Edition), and overall give you so much more value than any new remaster can offer.
WOW! I really enjoyed this feature! Spectacular man! Keep doing stuff like this!
I have always been a big fan of T2 and the whole Terminator franchise. And its so exciting that a new terminator is in the works and by that time I'm sure there will be yet another more improved 4K version of T2 with the extended cuts remastered. For me, I really like the 4K transfer, it wasn't perfect but I was satisfied with it. The film looked better than it ever has!
I just recall I had a VCD copy of T2 a long time ago. Lol!
I have the extreme edition dvd and am perfectly happy with it. This was an incredibly entertaining and well researched video. I love all of ur content, especially your horror commentaries. Definite thumbs up!👍
Thanks much! Glad to have you enjoying what we've got here.
the best home video release of this movie is the 2015 blu ray, it's literally the only release I know of on the format that has the original grain intact without DNR issues
The 2006 Blu-ray is a straight port of the D-Theater tape, but comes with its own compromises: The theatrical cut only, on a BD-25, with lossy audio, and no extras but the commentaries.
And we didn't get the 2015 disc in Canada, unfortunately (just Skynet Edition licensed out to Alliance and Mongrel Media). Even with its own DNR woes, Skynet Edition looks great next to Vaseline Edition on the 4K.
A $500 million box office from a $100 million budget would be considered a flop today.
not necessarily, 100 to make it, 100 to market it, even if the theaters take 100 more thats still 200 left over. The studio would be happy. However, with inflation now, 500 million worldwide would be be gigantic but so would a colossal budget.
Awesome video! Very informative and entertaining look back on the different formats of T2. You should do more stuff like this. I love to see one on the Evil Dead films as there have been so many releases of them on various formats. Oliver Harper brought me here from his facebook link to this video, and I'm glad I gave it a watch. Brilliant from start to finish. I look forward to what you do with this in the near future. Thanks and have a good day!
Thank you so much! It was a really long time putting this together. I was researching stuff back in December, and hit some technical issues with disc rips and such which delayed things a few weeks. There are some other films that do invite this form of analysis, but I'm going to ease off as this was indeed an intensive video to make.
You really should have more subs. I love your work and voice my man. Please don’t give up.
I'm not planning on it. Thanks much!
I have the 2015 blu-ray, and I just discovered I have the 1991 VHS of the film. Anyway, this might be my favorite movie.
Amazing work. I own a majority of these releases and this video was such a joy to watch! Great job!!!
Terminator 1 was Orion Pictures. Terminator 2 was TriStar Pictures (part of Sony Pictures, only the theatrical release, and the digital version such as Vudu has the TriStar logo)...
The EXTREME EDITION is the version I am used to - I like the added stuff. That's what I'm used to - and I really like the added bit with Reese!
Nick, love your work man! Thank you for this insightful and comprehensive video! :)
Thank you, very much!
I have both the Ultimate and Extreme DVDs. I think they are meant to compliment each other due to the bonus materials being totally different.
I’d always hoped someone would do this type of analysis on T2, it’s so vast and confusing how much it was released!
Wasn’t there a MUSE HD Laserdisc that got released in Japan?
Also, the extreme edition DVD did come with an HD version that required windows vista and some weird software to run, but you could watch it in HD.
Not sure about Muse LD. I don't know if there are any online databases that document those. The Extreme Edition did come with such a version, but I've always had Apple computers. So, I never was able to access it.
@@ravensfilm LDDB lists the MUSE release as PILH-1001
I’ve just never had a need to look those up. They seem so rare and hardly ever get mentioned.
I've seen people unbox the Skynet Edition Blu-ray but they got the original Blu-ray Disc inside.
T2 is one of the greatest movie-going experiences of my life. It is arguably the greatest action movie ever made. Ive bought so many different copies of this masterpiece, including HD DVD and laserdisc. The Ultimate Edition DVD is probably the best release of any movie on home video... ever. There were so many special features and the menus were so cool and interactive. I also love the sneaky easter egg where you get to watch all three versions of the movie. Despite truly disappointing home video releases like the 4K Blu-ray - which i bought, T2 is arguably the greatest sequel ever made.
This is my fav Terminator film of all time
Terminator 2 is awesome.
Fantastic work on this Nick, it was worth the wait to watch it :)
The first time I saw t2 I was blown away by how great it was as an action movie and amazing sci fi movie on vhs dvd and on laserdisc and blu ray but terrible on 4K
I best thing about The Extreme edition dvd were the commentary and the outtakes/bloopers at the end of one of the featurettes. I just wish we got to see more outtakes/bloopers and that they would have been ported to the blu rays and 4Ks.
I liked the Ultimate Edition DVD and I thought it was pretty good. I like the ending in the Special Extended Edition DVD because it was a proper sendoff to the franchise after what Sarah Connor has been through. If some people didn't like it, that's fine with me and I don't have a problem with it.
I was wondering which version i should buy. I think i'm gonna go with Extreme Edition on DVD. I'm sure Lionsgate will release more editions with the new movie coming up.
By no doubt. Let's just hope they put a little more comprehensive effort into the whole presentation.
I own the standalone Widescreen THX Special Edition of T2, which came with a note from James Cameron, as well as Ultimate Edition DVD from 2000.
No mention of the CD-I Video CD version?
I tend to focus on the major format releases in these. The one time I decided to delve into more obscure formats for a recent Star Wars video, I ended up having to cut about one-third of my video out because there were no materials or captured footage to utilize to make the video purposeful. I put myself through a long wringler of research where a large chunk of just got thrown out and not mentioned at all in the final video.
@@ravensfilm I probably watched one of the most rare and obscure Star Wars. I’ve never seen one. Combination 8 mm film and record.! if I am not mistaken, the CDI version was original laser disc made to MPEg
Terminator 6 film collection dvd
I own both the extreme DVD versions and ultra 4K version
Ooooo goood one man. I'm trying to really decide what stuff to get now on bluray/ 4k so things like this are useful.
I have the Extreme edition for myself as my player can is regionless, where as I have a R2 Scandinavian edition for my freinds to borrow when they want to watch the theatrical cut. the case for that is nice, check it out when you can.
Plus I have the 2001 UK steel case one for directors cut.
I remember waiting at the Video store called Video Connection for UPS to come and deliver their shipment for my special edition laser disk on launch day still crazy to I think I spent $125 on it
I would just stick with the Skynet Edition until they release a much better 4K version with all the cuts with the same remastering.
Brilliant video! I’ve got the skynet edition, and the 3D Blu-ray from here in the UK. I was severely disappointed with the new restoration, mainly due to the lack of Extended cut restoration and severe DNR. The 3D is good, but I can’t help going back to the skynet edition, true it has DNR but it’s not nearly as bad, has all 3 cuts looking exactly the same, and packed with special features. Which would you say is the best Blu-ray release?
So, the extreme dvd looks just as good as any blu ray version?
They are from the same transfer, but obviously, the DVD is at 480i resolution and the BD is at 1080p.
does anyone remember a special order/fan-club type of product that was offered with an early release of T2 on VHS? I remember my parents mailing in some sort of coupon, or calling a 1-800 number on the VHS box, to order some sort of special collectible that the studio offered with the home video release. Cannot remember what it was for the life of me!
I tried looking around quickly, but I couldn’t find any info on a mail-in offer. Nothing noted in the few TV ads here on TH-cam either. Maybe someone else will know something about it.
Magnificent video.
I have to add something about the new 2017 Bluray (1080p one)
They seem to have botched the contrasts because, to me, it seems they took the master for the UHD bluray, tonemapped it to SDR (Since the UHD is in HDR) and fiddled with the contrast, brightness and colors to make it look not opaque and made the colors more staturated.
If you convert the UHD and tonemap it to SDR with FFMPEG, you will see what I mean.
They also oversharpened it and that made a lot of halos, which are very visible on light post, fences, etc.
I did Bluray for myself with added grain (since they DNR way too much), correct contrast and brightness and way less green. I'm working on getting it dehaloed, but it's the hardest part.
I will upload a sample to my channel if you are interested to see it.
Yeah, that doesn't surprise me considering how half assed the entire release was. It escapes me why StudioCanal mastered this the way they did. Cameron was clearly involved, but for a guy that's so high up on making use of new tech and expanding the cinematic experience, this doesn't reflect that mentality much at all. I think he cared more about the 3D conversion than anything else.
I will say that the poor people that worked on the discs were tied to what StudioCanal gave them.
It sucks.
BTW, I will give you a link soon with my own take on the Bluray IF you want to check it out. I'm encoding it now.
Here it is, if you wanna check it out. uptobox.com/qrnsr5qama0f
I just got the 2015 BRD and it doesn't include any commentary tracks. WTF? Not as bad as excluding the mono track on T1 but it's still a big oversight.
Yeah, in trying to free up space on the disc they sacrificed some bonus features. They should’ve just done a dual disc release to maximize what they could include.
You glossed over the first DVD a bit quickly, the original THX DVD has the CDS theatrical surround cut audio mix which is best audio mix from all T2 home releases.
Oddly enough, I've also heard the canal studio HD-DVD release is best overall release on the market.
Yeah, I’ve heard more about that original mix in the proceeding years. If I ever obtain additional releases of T2, I will try to produce an updated video, and discuss the sound mix more.
I have several laserdisc releases and the early DVD releases, and that's fine. The color timing for the most recent 4k version looks like absolute garbage
The horrible color timing to me was actually worse than the DNR
@@mikeg2491 agreed. Just seeing the screenshots makes me question Cameron's sanity
I disagree about the look of T2. I think the 2017 Blueray and 4k look far superior to its original look.
You're welcome to your opinion on that, but the vast consensus is very much standing in opposition regarding this as one of the worst 4K transfers out there. Since I've gotten my own 4K setup, I threw the UHD disc in, and it looked worse than the standard 1080p Blu-Ray. Some of the new 4Ks of Cameron's films are also getting hit with a lot of criticism as he's applied DNR and A.I. upscaling and refinement tools to pull away a lot of the organic looks of Aliens and True Lies. The Abyss looked pretty good for its theatrical re-release in December, but it wasn't perfect. It seems to be the one that got tinkered with the least.
@@ravensfilm Yes Ive heard about people not being satisfied with the 4k, and now The Abyss coming in for criticism. I guess its pretty divided on this. Maybe when T2 gets to its 40th, Cameron will have a transfer that most people will be happy with.
I wasn't outraged by the DNR on the 4k, but my god the blue tint looks awful. Pisses me off just looking at it lol
SIMPLES: Xtreme Edition and Special Edition laserdisc, stop pissing about.