Is Halo Multiplayer is Canon? - Halo Lore
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It makes sense why the unsc were losing now
To be fair, these practices only really started after the human covenant war
I vividly remember my clan leader (yes ik cringe that I was in a clan in a Halo game, I was like 12-13 so) in Halo Reach was so mad that 343 made multiplayer "canon" by giving it a "story" in Halo 4. Cus when H4 was announced, but not released yet, it was one of their "selling points" in an interview or something that it was a simulation and its Spartans in war games on the infinity and blah blah blah.
Atleast this justifys glitching out of the map
Ha. Super bounces are canon
Do note, Halo 4+ is what's canon. It's possible Halo 3 is as well because of the Anvil station, however.
According to GrimBrother One, all multiplayer is essentially canon. Link to that statement is in the description of the video
I’m personally NOT a fan of this because it leads into one of 343’s biggest fumbles where they misinterpreted Halo as being “a Spartan story”. The reason we haven’t had playable Elites for a long time is because everything needs to be geared around the Spartan simulations, instead of just treating multiplayer as fun chaotic matches that have no impact on the story. Or they could just have certain things like Firefight be viewed as “what if” scenarios. I have no issues with various locations being representative of in universe places. The thing I don’t like is how they think they have to force everything in the multiplayer to make sense in universe (my other issue is it makes your original character donut steel canon, and that tends to lead down some cringe roads🤣).
I sincerely doubt this has literally anything to do with the exclusion of playable elites. ANVIL station is a great example of the contrary. It’s not difficult to invent a reason for elites to be present. I imagine the reasoning has something to do with 343’s obsession with making everything competitive friendly. Elites in multiplayer means weird hit boxes which doesn’t play well with competitive scenarios
Yeah. I can definitely see that being a contributing factor. Esports is a cancer that has basically ruined the fun/casual experience for numerous franchises (so many of Halo’s sandbox issues can be directly tied to the “pro players” who demand the sandbox revolve around the Battle Rifle and a few power weapons because the other options “require no skill”). What 343 should’ve done was just focus on making a fun game with a highly modular sandbox that allows for a wide array of custom games, and a competitive scene will naturally grow out of it like what happened with the Bungie games.
I think the best version of playable Elites would be how in Reach it was somewhat asymmetric where Spartan 3’s had health packs, while Elites had regenerating health and stronger shields to make up for the larger hitbox. Personally, I wish they would’ve gone further with this by giving Elite players the ability to dual wield, and making the weapons more unique like in CE (the whole game was balanced around the Invasion game mode, and that’s why so many of the guns are counterparts and basically useless on higher difficulties. Reach Evolved and Ruby’s Rebalcnex are two great examples of what Bungie could’ve done to have a varied sandbox where everything is useful).
If done right giving multiplayer a narrative could enhance the experience if there were a bunch of cool events, but it sadly hasn’t happened. The Infinite multiplayer cutscenes didn’t really go anywhere, and they took resources away from other things that needed them. From what I’ve heard Rainbow Six had a bunch of cool events that fed into the setting before it went off the rails. G5’s Warzone is an example of that done right, but just like any experiment it’s a bit rough around the edges (I’m sure that somebody has remade it using Infinite’s crazy Forge. Campaign ai and multiplayer bots should’ve been in Halo a LONG TIME ago). Spartan Ops was an interesting idea to give a reason for Firefight, but it would’ve been better to just built on what came before.
The Spartan Story thing I mentioned feeds into a larger issue where because it didn’t fit with their vision 343’s leadership and Microsoft Execs shot down a wide array of different pitches that would’ve explored different aspects of the setting (we know from ex-343 devs that a HellDivers 2 style ODST game could’ve been made, but was thrown out).
That’s what I’m trying to get at (not sure if that made much sense. Probably could’ve formatted it better).
Having multiplayer feed into the narrative can either enhance the experience, or hamper it depending on what’s done with it.
I desperately wish Infinite actually did that. A seasonal story can work. Funnily enough, I think 343 needed to only look to Spartan ops as an example. The gameplay in those campaigns may be boring as hell but the narrative and the cut scenes between are excellent. Had they followed that model, Infinite could’ve easily had narrative longevity.
The story is the most importantly facet to me so when I heard that the new cinematics got canned, I was and still am quite bummed. Though most of them were really underwhelming, the final one was genuinely intriguing. I really don’t understand what’s happening at 343. It sucks to be a Halo fan sometimes. I really hope the leadership shake up actually helps but with the Xbox games showcase on the horizon and not a single rumor about a new Halo game, it’s difficult to be optimistic. At least a new Doom is coming, I guess. “Doom: The Dark Ages”. As much as I absolutely love Doom, I must admit, I’m hoping it secretly ties into Quake somehow.
“Just like the simulations”
So its cannon that me and my buddys got launched 30,000 feet into the sky on a warthog
It’s canon in all of our hearts
So does this mean the multiplayer announcer is real in the halo universe?
Actually, yes. I believe he’s an AI
Wait, does that mean that CE multiplayer takes place during the Insurrection?
Potentially? There’s no clear answer, unfortunately. The mjolnir depicted in CE wasn’t created until just before the game takes place though, so I’d say no. Assuming you’re defining the “insurrection” as the time period prior to the human covenant war.
No wonder the Banish dominated the UNSC since it's impossible for Spartan 4's to adapt to Elites & Flood then the UNSC is effectively doomed.
Also thanks to the competitive Halo community once again being irrelevant wasn't enough they had to make Spartans look like a joke. I'm pretty sure Banish Kig-yar doesn't complain about "Hit box" or "even starts" hmm pathetic
This is so lame. No multiplayer is not lore. My god.
Tell that to 343 cus they literally said its canon, specifically in H4, they stated that multiplayer is a part of the lore and that its a simulation on the Infinity. Go and watch old interviews that promoted H4. Its even mentioned in Spartan Ops in the beginning cutscene when Palmer says "We could spend another 48 hours running the teams through the war games" as well as the main menu of H4 literally calling multiplayer "war games." Is it stupid, yes. Is it also canon, yes.
@@Zivin go off of what bungie started, not 343. 343 doesn’t have storytelling capabilities like the original developers.
It’s definitely not cannon because if 100k spartans kept endlessly killing each other there is no way that halo could continue as a franchise because they would have the most overpowered force ever
It’s a simulation. No one dies.
I remember 1th place when MCC launched
Technically we could still have playable elites someday.
If it’s all a simulation, then I’m sure there’s ways to “mod” the simulation so that Spartans can choose whatever appearance they want to use during the fight, even look like an Elite.
Or just have elites be there. Swords of sanghelios train with Spartans in canon already.
Only in 343's mind, cause we need a reason to fight battles...smh.
Lol, it would be cool to play an elite in halo infinite honestly
I know so many people hate it, but i like this, little addition to the lore and it makes em laugh so hard that ot is canon that spartans T bag eachother on the reg just to piss eachother off
Wow, this is awesome 😊
Yes, yes I did.
Rvb is canon felix and locus are canon the whole rvb universe is canon
It's canon if you think it is
Only the 343 games multiplayer are canon
Well, not exactly. There’s a link in the description of this video where GrimBrotherOne confirmed that all Halo multiplayer is “more or less canon”
H4, H5 and H infinite are canon, bungie MP is not canon
Not according to a link provided in the description. GrimBrother One said all multiplayer is “mostly canon”. The ANVIL initiative is proof of this.