I was based at DCA, I just got back from a trip the night before 911. The next morning my wife woke me up to tell me an airplane crashed into the twin towers. As we watched the second jet crashed into the other tower. After that we we watching the going’s on as Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon, at that point I knew I lost friends, the Captain and I flew together on the 727 when I was an FE, and he was an F/O. Later just before I made Captain Chick was Captain on the 75/76. I lost 6 friends on Flight 77, I had flown with them many times and the IAD flight attendant supervisor who was just going on a visit to LA. Very sad, Chick was Navy Top Gun pilot on the F-4 and even had an office in the Pentagon where he interviewed young men and women who wanted to go to the Naval Academy. So sad!
Not an American but active duty Hellenic Air Force here . I was on leave and got a call from my base "get ready to return - we're expecting to be canceled" - QRA fighters elevated to 2 minutes readiness - CAPs airborne - pilots rotating in and out the cockpits hot ! I was stationed at Crete where there is the major USAF/USN base for the Mediterranean (Souda Bay) ... crazy times - miss the QRA madness ... (I was in COC duty)
I flew through ORD a week after things shook down. I have never seen more law enforcement in one place. FBI. ATF. US Marshalls. Chicago PD. National Guard with M16s. A year later, I was in DEN. A lady got picked for secondary screening at the gate going to Vegas. She gave the United agent 7 kinds of hell. The man told her. "Ma'am. I am 62 years old. I cried like a baby when those planes flew into the buildings. I do no want what happened then to happen to you". I will never forget that.
I flew a couple of months afterwards as a kid and all I remember is being surprised that a single gum wrapper, the part paper and part foil kind, set off the metal detector. I forgot about it in my pocket. That never would have happened before. Also, no more cockpit visits or greeting my dad at the gate with the dog.
I've lived across the street from the WTC site since 1984. The captain of Flight 11, John Ogonowski, was a high school classmate at Keith Academy in Lowell, MA, beloved by the folks of Dracut and the Merrimack valley to this day. I restored the damage to a building struck by the engine of Flight 175 and worked on the steel erection for the Freedom Tower and the Path Hall. My son soloed in Florida from the flight school that instructed some of the hijackers. I can not bring myself to visit the memorial or museum on the Trade Center site and never will. I learned what terror felt like that day and will never forget. The sound of bagpipes brings tears to my eyes and you NYFD and NYPD know what I'm talking about.
I know that feeling brother. I have not been able to go there myself. I was planning to go up to the observation deck that day, but the friend I was taking wasnt feeling good. Both my parents worked in the towers...but I was lucky. Dad called in sick and slept until 2pm, and mom was late because she bought a pair of pajama pants. She was about to get in the elevator when tower 1 was hit. She didnt go up. Those stupid pants saved her life. And I wont lie that thinking of some of the guys she worked with. One was a drummer that was going to be in my band. The chef that was super cool when I visited...he went up to get his register with all his lifes savings in it. And others I knew...they never made it. I never wanted to join the military, but did after that day, and served after my parents finally found jobs. I was the only one working, driving a bus into PA.
I have a funny story that's sort of related to 9/11. In mid-2003 I was living in Florida, taking flight instruction, and planning a trip to Massachusetts to visit family. I wanted to bring my flight bag with me in case I wanted to do some flying in MA, but wasn't sure how TSA would react to a passenger going through the security line with a bag full of pilot stuff. So I posted on an internet forum asking for others' experiences in this kind of situation. One response I got was from an electronics tech who traveled a lot with all his tools, including a variety of different kinds of electrical tape. One time the TSA allowed him to bring black electrical tape on the flight, but not any other color. Who knew non-black electrical tape was so dangerous! Incidentally I did end up bringing my flight bag with me on that trip, had no problem, and actually got to do some flying!
A completely ancellery story from a non-pilot. On 9/11, I was the pastor of a very, very tiny United Methodist Church in a very, very tiny church in the mountains of Idaho (New Meadows). That year, we hosted an exchange student from Italy from a town on the coast near Pizza, where the Leaning Tower is. Her mom called us in a frantic, demanding that we needed to send her 17 year old daughter home immediately. A) There was no way that would happen. B) The nearest airport was a two hour drive (Boise). C) We were about 2,000 miles away from the east coast of the U.S. And D) Why would any terrorist want to attack a community of 640 people in the mountains of Idaho? We talked mama off the cliff, and our exchange student had an amazing time and actually graduated with an official U.S. high school diploma. (And the Y2K predicted disaster, as we all know, never happened.)
I walked down the stairs at the Cambridge, UK college where I was head of science and on the TV which normally displayed information for students, one of the twin towers was on fire, and nothing was ever the same again...
I flew PHX - IND a couple of weeks after 9/11 for the F1 race. It was interesting to go through security as I was carrying $20K+ in camera gear including a 600mm f/4 lens. The look of the screener when it went through x-ray was priceless as his chin was literally on the floor. Needless to say I was called aside for a complete inspection of my camera bag.
I was flying that day. Very awful day and many days after 911. I remember feeling dread about the first flights afterward. The flight attendants were not excited about being locked in the cabin. One thing that bothered me was that I cant count how many times I unlocked the cockpit door without looking to see who was knocking. I had flown both of our jets that were taken and with several of the flight attendants. 911 led to alot of financial issues for us too. All these years later and still bothersome.
Was flying the Bus at UAL when this happened. I had gotten home after an all-nighter from the west coast to IAD on 9/11. I was checking unimatic on my home computer in my kitchen after driving home when the news broke of the first crash. Needless to say, we all knew the world had changed significantly. I remember going to a council 11 meeting later in the week and hearing the dire forecasts the council members were forecasting. We were told that UAL would resume flight ops on the following Saturday. I was scheduled to fly based on my awarded line for September. My Capt was there at the meeting and we discussed whether we would fly the trip. We did decide to fly it but with the caveat of having an extra crewman in the jump seat as an extra measure of security since the new doors were not installed. That trip on Saturday was the first to leave IAD. We were the only jet operating and had the airspace pretty much to ourselves. The pax were great and they cheered when we landed after our first leg. It was a scramble-ex for the rest of the trip with re assignments and cancellations. Ended up getting furloughed 2 years later and never went back. Had friends who were furloughed twice then lost seniority in the merger with CAL. Was a truly unique time to be an airline pilot.
Thanks, Ron. On 9/11 I was enrolled in the Pima/Cochise Colleges joint professional pilot program. Not much ground school that Tuesday, lots of speculating. We were then grounded from all flight training for almost 3 weeks.
I was in elementary school at the time and arrived at school with no idea what had happened. Looking back, I'm glad I didn't watch it happen live at that age.
I was a Premier Exec out of SFO during this time. I was outside, and a soldier had a dog, and I asked if the dog found any drugs. He would not shut up about how the dog was strictly for bombs and how it would interfere with the bomb dogs. He told me as well that the weapons were all show. I grew up flying on PA from the US to Brazil up front. One day, returning from Rio to MIA, we pushed back and suddenly returned to the gate. I noticed the two guys in front of me in First class get very nervous. Suddenly, the door to the 747 popped open, and 5 or six Brazilian military grabbed these guys, and they were out of that plane in under 10 minutes. I was just a kid and thought they might grab me, although they only checked my passport.
Ever since your previous video on the subject, I was surprised that an airline would allow a father/son to fly together, especially as a check ride, even back in the day. Definitely not insinuating anything here, but it would be easy to see somebody making an accusation that a free pass was given, even in spite of a sterling training record. Moving beyond that, even during a normal flight, I can't imagine a parent/child dynamic ever totally going away, especially in a situation where CRM would become important. On a different note, flying videos are fun, accident videos are great, but I really enjoy all the stories, keep it up!
My son and I have had an excellent training dynamic. I taught him from zero time up through private, commercial and instrument. They were actually worried I would be too hard on him as I generally have very high standards for my students. I only gave him the Initial Operating Experience. He had already qualified in the simulator. He has over two decades of excellent check rides. No one ever expressed the least bit of concern of us flying together. I also had a strong reputation with the company and other check pilots.I actually think that he may be a better pilot than I am.
@@ronrogers As I said, I wasn't making any accusations, after watching many of your videos, you don't seem the type to cut corners like that...just the thought that somebody, somewhere, would grumble about the possibility and give the airline a headache they'd wish to avoid.
@@ronrogers Not at all, no negative connotation was ever intended. Just thinking out loud, trying to make conversation. Shame on me for making an effort to interact.
Don’t forget that pilots formerly were required to carry a gun. A would be hijacker was shot and killed by the captain on the ramp at Houston hobby airport in 1953.
On the mail runs pilots were armed. Saw an old aviation movie where a person at an airport exclaimed, "Oh, I see you have a pistol. You must be a pilot"
My first trip after going to my new assignment in EXO was an IATA convention in MUC. Walking around the lobby were what appeared to be German military with automatic machine guns and the meanest looking dogs that one could imagine. One of my LH colleagues assured me that that was ongoing security in Germany and not unusual. I've often wondered if the USA wouldn't have been so much better off having this level of security. Why it gives the impression of a police state it sure beats what this country went through and for thousands of survivors, will live with for generations. Should probably note that the MUC trip was well before 9/11.
Interesting story about the M16s. My experience traveling to India was a bit different. They would sometimes have heightened levels of security and post soldiers in the airports with automated riffles. M16s or modern AK variants (I am no expert). All of the riffles had plastic clips so that you could easily see that the clips were fully loaded! I guess one was just for show and the other was for SHOW!
We've come a long way.and the terrorist threat is down. Now all the flight crew has to deal with are the inebriated, entitled, cranky, folks who want to open a cabin door and take a stroll at 36,000 ft.
Hi Ron, I always enjoy your videos. Did you see the inter view with the female F16 pilot that was told to ram any commericial planes that did not respond to any calls on 9/11. The F16s guns no ammos and missles. If you didnt you can find it on youtube.
Ron, I have a couple serious questions. What’s your opinion on the CEO of United Airlines, Scott Kirby, crawling around the stage dressed in drag ? In the same light, the woman and her baby who were thrown off their flight just yesterday for not addressing the flight attendants as they/them ? - The corporate atmosphere at United today ?
Yes, I would have loved the free training. But, by the time it became readily available, I was mostly flying international and could not carry on those trips. Anyway, my F/Os had a better angle for the shot!
Beverly Bass landed in Gander and was stuck there for a few days, there was a movie or show made about that…I think . It was a very weird time after the tragedy. I thought there would be more acts of terror, but , I suppose the 20 years, tens of thousands of casualties and trillions of dollars stopped that from happening.
Some of that information is SSD controlled and not for public knowledge. I was an FFDO for 15 years and felt the program was outstanding. Im based in a liberal city and the local government did everthing in its power to make carrying my weapon to work a major pain in the ass so many of us quit. Really pissed me off but I couldnt stomach the hassle anymore. Makes you wonder who the threat is...
I pretty much quit flying after that. For all that I like planes, even as a teenager, I couldn't help but think for all the safety measures in place, it's still really, really easy for someone with bad intentions to ruin your whole day. And these days, it's clear that the FAA hasn't been doing their job, else Boeing wouldn't have never gotten away with the nonsense they've been pulling. I still like planes, but I'll stay on the ground, thank you. Not that the FRA, FHWA, FMCSA, or law enforcement have been doing their jobs, either...... With all the safety measures, the searches and screenings, it's simply more convenient and almost as quick and cheap to simply drive to any destination less than 600 miles away. At Lambert International Airport in St Louis, you pretty much need to get there 2 hours before your flight leaves. In two hours, I can be 120 miles down the road--even at the legal limit.
My son and I have had an excellent training dynamic. I taught him from zero time up through private, commercial and instrument. They were actually worried I would be too hard on him as I generally have very high standards for my students. I only gave him the Initial Operating Experience. He had already qualified in the simulator. He has over two decades of excellent check rides. No one ever expressed the least bit of concern of us flying together. I also had a strong reputation with the company and other check pilots.I actually think that he may be a better pilot than I am.
I had just interviewed with AA on Sept 9th and 10th. Needless to say I never heard back. Was fortunate to still have my current job.
Who do you fly for now? Are you still flying?
I was based at DCA, I just got back from a trip the night before 911. The next morning my wife woke me up to tell me an airplane crashed into the twin towers. As we watched the second jet crashed into the other tower. After that we we watching the going’s on as Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon, at that point I knew I lost friends, the Captain and I flew together on the 727 when I was an FE, and he was an F/O. Later just before I made Captain Chick was Captain on the 75/76. I lost 6 friends on Flight 77, I had flown with them many times and the IAD flight attendant supervisor who was just going on a visit to LA. Very sad, Chick was Navy Top Gun pilot on the F-4 and even had an office in the Pentagon where he interviewed young men and women who wanted to go to the Naval Academy. So sad!
Powerful. Thanks for sharing!
I'm so sorry to hear that.
Not an American but active duty Hellenic Air Force here . I was on leave and got a call from my base "get ready to return - we're expecting to be canceled" - QRA fighters elevated to 2 minutes readiness - CAPs airborne - pilots rotating in and out the cockpits hot ! I was stationed at Crete where there is the major USAF/USN base for the Mediterranean (Souda Bay) ... crazy times - miss the QRA madness ... (I was in COC duty)
I flew through ORD a week after things shook down. I have never seen more law enforcement in one place. FBI. ATF. US Marshalls. Chicago PD. National Guard with M16s. A year later, I was in DEN. A lady got picked for secondary screening at the gate going to Vegas. She gave the United agent 7 kinds of hell. The man told her. "Ma'am. I am 62 years old. I cried like a baby when those planes flew into the buildings. I do no want what happened then to happen to you". I will never forget that.
I flew a couple of months afterwards as a kid and all I remember is being surprised that a single gum wrapper, the part paper and part foil kind, set off the metal detector. I forgot about it in my pocket. That never would have happened before. Also, no more cockpit visits or greeting my dad at the gate with the dog.
I've lived across the street from the WTC site since 1984. The captain of Flight 11, John Ogonowski, was a high school classmate at Keith Academy in Lowell, MA, beloved by the folks of Dracut and the Merrimack valley to this day. I restored the damage to a building struck by the engine of Flight 175 and worked on the steel erection for the Freedom Tower and the Path Hall. My son soloed in Florida from the flight school that instructed some of the hijackers.
I can not bring myself to visit the memorial or museum on the Trade Center site and never will.
I learned what terror felt like that day and will never forget. The sound of bagpipes brings tears to my eyes and you NYFD and NYPD know what I'm talking about.
Thanks for sharing!
I know that feeling brother. I have not been able to go there myself. I was planning to go up to the observation deck that day, but the friend I was taking wasnt feeling good. Both my parents worked in the towers...but I was lucky. Dad called in sick and slept until 2pm, and mom was late because she bought a pair of pajama pants.
She was about to get in the elevator when tower 1 was hit. She didnt go up. Those stupid pants saved her life.
And I wont lie that thinking of some of the guys she worked with. One was a drummer that was going to be in my band. The chef that was super cool when I visited...he went up to get his register with all his lifes savings in it. And others I knew...they never made it.
I never wanted to join the military, but did after that day, and served after my parents finally found jobs. I was the only one working, driving a bus into PA.
@@RipRoaringGarage Well, buddy, God blessed us both on that day. Thank you for joining and risking your life for us and remembering those we lost.
@@joefin5900 Cant and wont forget. Ever.
God bless you brother.
I have a funny story that's sort of related to 9/11. In mid-2003 I was living in Florida, taking flight instruction, and planning a trip to Massachusetts to visit family. I wanted to bring my flight bag with me in case I wanted to do some flying in MA, but wasn't sure how TSA would react to a passenger going through the security line with a bag full of pilot stuff. So I posted on an internet forum asking for others' experiences in this kind of situation. One response I got was from an electronics tech who traveled a lot with all his tools, including a variety of different kinds of electrical tape. One time the TSA allowed him to bring black electrical tape on the flight, but not any other color. Who knew non-black electrical tape was so dangerous! Incidentally I did end up bringing my flight bag with me on that trip, had no problem, and actually got to do some flying!
Red electrical tape is the most dangerous🤣🤣🤣
A completely ancellery story from a non-pilot. On 9/11, I was the pastor of a very, very tiny United Methodist Church in a very, very tiny church in the mountains of Idaho (New Meadows). That year, we hosted an exchange student from Italy from a town on the coast near Pizza, where the Leaning Tower is. Her mom called us in a frantic, demanding that we needed to send her 17 year old daughter home immediately. A) There was no way that would happen. B) The nearest airport was a two hour drive (Boise). C) We were about 2,000 miles away from the east coast of the U.S. And D) Why would any terrorist want to attack a community of 640 people in the mountains of Idaho? We talked mama off the cliff, and our exchange student had an amazing time and actually graduated with an official U.S. high school diploma. (And the Y2K predicted disaster, as we all know, never happened.)
Thanks for sharing such a great story!
I walked down the stairs at the Cambridge, UK college where I was head of science and on the TV which normally displayed information for students, one of the twin towers was on fire, and nothing was ever the same again...
I flew PHX - IND a couple of weeks after 9/11 for the F1 race. It was interesting to go through security as I was carrying $20K+ in camera gear including a 600mm f/4 lens. The look of the screener when it went through x-ray was priceless as his chin was literally on the floor. Needless to say I was called aside for a complete inspection of my camera bag.
I was flying that day. Very awful day and many days after 911. I remember feeling dread about the first flights afterward. The flight attendants were not excited about being locked in the cabin. One thing that bothered me was that I cant count how many times I unlocked the cockpit door without looking to see who was knocking.
I had flown both of our jets that were taken and with several of the flight attendants. 911 led to alot of financial issues for us too. All these years later and still bothersome.
Thank you for covering this important historical topic from your perspective.
Was flying the Bus at UAL when this happened. I had gotten home after an all-nighter from the west coast to IAD on 9/11. I was checking unimatic on my home computer in my kitchen after driving home when the news broke of the first crash. Needless to say, we all knew the world had changed significantly.
I remember going to a council 11 meeting later in the week and hearing the dire forecasts the council members were forecasting. We were told that UAL would resume flight ops on the following Saturday. I was scheduled to fly based on my awarded line for September. My Capt was there at the meeting and we discussed whether we would fly the trip. We did decide to fly it but with the caveat of having an extra crewman in the jump seat as an extra measure of security since the new doors were not installed.
That trip on Saturday was the first to leave IAD. We were the only jet operating and had the airspace pretty much to ourselves. The pax were great and they cheered when we landed after our first leg. It was a scramble-ex for the rest of the trip with re assignments and cancellations. Ended up getting furloughed 2 years later and never went back. Had friends who were furloughed twice then lost seniority in the merger with CAL. Was a truly unique time to be an airline pilot.
Thanks, Ron. On 9/11 I was enrolled in the Pima/Cochise Colleges joint professional pilot program. Not much ground school that Tuesday, lots of speculating. We were then grounded from all flight training for almost 3 weeks.
A crash axe is quite an amazing tool. We used to use one to gain access to locked file cabinets at an airline. Non-destructively, mind you!
I was in elementary school at the time and arrived at school with no idea what had happened. Looking back, I'm glad I didn't watch it happen live at that age.
Later that day my son called from Shaw AFB, SC, "Dad, I'm headed to fly CAP over ATL to protect that airspace".
I was a Premier Exec out of SFO during this time. I was outside, and a soldier had a dog, and I asked if the dog found any drugs. He would not shut up about how the dog was strictly for bombs and how it would interfere with the bomb dogs. He told me as well that the weapons were all show. I grew up flying on PA from the US to Brazil up front. One day, returning from Rio to MIA, we pushed back and suddenly returned to the gate. I noticed the two guys in front of me in First class get very nervous. Suddenly, the door to the 747 popped open, and 5 or six Brazilian military grabbed these guys, and they were out of that plane in under 10 minutes. I was just a kid and thought they might grab me, although they only checked my passport.
Ever since your previous video on the subject, I was surprised that an airline would allow a father/son to fly together, especially as a check ride, even back in the day. Definitely not insinuating anything here, but it would be easy to see somebody making an accusation that a free pass was given, even in spite of a sterling training record. Moving beyond that, even during a normal flight, I can't imagine a parent/child dynamic ever totally going away, especially in a situation where CRM would become important.
On a different note, flying videos are fun, accident videos are great, but I really enjoy all the stories, keep it up!
My son and I have had an excellent training dynamic. I taught him from zero time up through private, commercial and instrument. They were actually worried I would be too hard on him as I generally have very high standards for my students. I only gave him the Initial Operating Experience. He had already qualified in the simulator. He has over two decades of excellent check rides. No one ever expressed the least bit of concern of us flying together. I also had a strong reputation with the company and other check pilots.I actually think that he may be a better pilot than I am.
@@ronrogers As I said, I wasn't making any accusations, after watching many of your videos, you don't seem the type to cut corners like that...just the thought that somebody, somewhere, would grumble about the possibility and give the airline a headache they'd wish to avoid.
Actually this is the first of any grumbling that I have ever heard.
@@ronrogers Not at all, no negative connotation was ever intended. Just thinking out loud, trying to make conversation. Shame on me for making an effort to interact.
Interaction is just fine and appreciated. I was just responding to a veiled accusation. If no accusations were intended, no offense should be taken.
I want to see video of Ron making little ice cubes out of big ones with his flashlight! 😆
very interesting, your background stories - and that you could fly with your son is really awesome 🤩👍🏽
Thank you so much 🤗
That was interesting. Thanks Ron!
You are very welcome
Don’t forget that pilots formerly were required to carry a gun. A would be hijacker was shot and killed by the captain on the ramp at Houston hobby airport in 1953.
On the mail runs pilots were armed. Saw an old aviation movie where a person at an airport exclaimed, "Oh, I see you have a pistol. You must be a pilot"
Those 5 D Cell flashlights were better weapons than they were flashlights. Thank you.
My first trip after going to my new assignment in EXO was an IATA convention in MUC. Walking around the lobby were what appeared to be German military with automatic machine guns and the meanest looking dogs that one could imagine. One of my LH colleagues assured me that that was ongoing security in Germany and not unusual. I've often wondered if the USA wouldn't have been so much better off having this level of security. Why it gives the impression of a police state it sure beats what this country went through and for thousands of survivors, will live with for generations. Should probably note that the MUC trip was well before 9/11.
The fun meter went from the right side to the left side.
Interesting story about the M16s. My experience traveling to India was a bit different. They would sometimes have heightened levels of security and post soldiers in the airports with automated riffles. M16s or modern AK variants (I am no expert). All of the riffles had plastic clips so that you could easily see that the clips were fully loaded! I guess one was just for show and the other was for SHOW!
We've come a long way.and the terrorist threat is down. Now all the flight crew has to deal with are the inebriated, entitled, cranky, folks who want to open a cabin door and take a stroll at 36,000 ft.
Hi Ron, I always enjoy your videos. Did you see the inter view with the female F16 pilot that was told to ram any commericial planes that did not respond to any calls on 9/11. The F16s guns no ammos and missles. If you didnt you can find it on youtube.
I know the story but don't think I have seen the video.
I've seen that video, it's hard to believe and imagine, but seems to be authentical
Ron, I have a couple serious questions. What’s your opinion on the CEO of United Airlines, Scott Kirby, crawling around the stage dressed in drag ? In the same light, the woman and her baby who were thrown off their flight just yesterday for not addressing the flight attendants as they/them ?
- The corporate atmosphere at United today ?
Don't know anything about what you are talking about and as far as I know, the corporate culture at UAL is just fine.
Ron,we had Kirby at AA. Then United got him. The dressing in “drag” is true. Absolutely ridiculous behavior to me,but, I digress…
How many people (including myself) 9/11 story starts - “I was sleeping and the phone rang ‘Turn on the TV’”
Like the Guardsmen with their empty rifles, the entire T.S.A. is also all for show. As is the D.H.S.: Department of Humongous Spending.
Thankyou Ron, very interesting video. Do Pilots have weapons on them these days?
I assume so
Good video Ron. Truly one of the most devastating days for our country. We shall never forget the victims and families. 🫡🇺🇸
Hi Ron ! Does the aircrew know an Air Marshal is onboard and who they are ? So as to coordinate if anything occurs ?
The captain always knows who is armed on his/her aircraft.
wonderful. Did you ever consider the FFDO program?
Yes, I would have loved the free training. But, by the time it became readily available, I was mostly flying international and could not carry on those trips. Anyway, my F/Os had a better angle for the shot!
Beverly Bass landed in Gander and was stuck there for a few days, there was a movie or show made about that…I think . It was a very weird time after the tragedy. I thought there would be more acts of terror, but , I suppose the 20 years, tens of thousands of casualties and trillions of dollars stopped that from happening.
"Come From Away" Have show it to friends many times over.
@@ronrogersI learned her story in short watching the flying doodles channel , which is a great channel.
9/11 created tragedies for the myriad victims, but the events themselves were monstrous crimes. I call them "the Islamic crimes of September 2001."
Were there any pilots at United that refused to fly right after 9-11?
Not that I was aware of.
If possible, would you talk about airline pilots carrying firearms during flights.
Good idea!
Some of that information is SSD controlled and not for public knowledge. I was an FFDO for 15 years and felt the program was outstanding. Im based in a liberal city and the local government did everthing in its power to make carrying my weapon to work a major pain in the ass so many of us quit. Really pissed me off but I couldnt stomach the hassle anymore. Makes you wonder who the threat is...
Was your son flying on 09/11?
No, we were both home
You should talk about flying as a cka
cka?
@@ronrogersI think he means check airmen
I pretty much quit flying after that. For all that I like planes, even as a teenager, I couldn't help but think for all the safety measures in place, it's still really, really easy for someone with bad intentions to ruin your whole day. And these days, it's clear that the FAA hasn't been doing their job, else Boeing wouldn't have never gotten away with the nonsense they've been pulling. I still like planes, but I'll stay on the ground, thank you. Not that the FRA, FHWA, FMCSA, or law enforcement have been doing their jobs, either...... With all the safety measures, the searches and screenings, it's simply more convenient and almost as quick and cheap to simply drive to any destination less than 600 miles away. At Lambert International Airport in St Louis, you pretty much need to get there 2 hours before your flight leaves. In two hours, I can be 120 miles down the road--even at the legal limit.
HTF does an AIRLINE ALLOW SOMEONE’S FATHER TO CERTIFY THEM???? ANYONE SEE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST?????)
My son and I have had an excellent training dynamic. I taught him from zero time up through private, commercial and instrument. They were actually worried I would be too hard on him as I generally have very high standards for my students. I only gave him the Initial Operating Experience. He had already qualified in the simulator. He has over two decades of excellent check rides. No one ever expressed the least bit of concern of us flying together. I also had a strong reputation with the company and other check pilots.I actually think that he may be a better pilot than I am.