There’s evidence that the Nanotyranus is its own creature. Tooth design (being more KNIFE-like instead of banana-like), skeletal structure and various other elements that are nothing like a T-Rex. Seriously, baby and adolescent T-Rex can’t change body structure due to growth, seriously.
I agree 100 percent Don Lemon and the rest of the CNN crew ( the China fake news network that works hard on keeping Americans hating each other ) is full of BS but later fines has shown Nano is it's own type of dino and T-Rex did have glans full of bad stuff. Nano was the coyote or wolf of it's time and T-Rex was the Grizzly bear.
To be brutually honest, even though Jurassic Fight Club is relatively bad prehistoric documentary - theres more insulting documentaries out there. Like Monsters Resurrected, that show steals footage from other documentaries and completely lies to its audiences about many different things.
@@Maretoast Holy fuck remenber those documentaries..., Their Spinosaurus was even worser than JP Spinosaurus it also went psycopathic and as you said and killed some scavengers dinos... for fun I guess plus the poor sarco who where just chilling
@@mariodiezvallina8207 I didn't mind that tbh since it wasn't educational and more of a character story which so happens to be about a Tarbosaurus- and hey, Made me wanna look up the dinosaur so...that's a plus from me, lol. It's sequel though...oh...Either should never had been made OR keep it in the same style as the first one.
The reason Walking With Dinosaurs is so fondly remembered besides portraying the dinosaurs as animals and not hollywood movie monsters. Was due to the fact that for the time the series came out (obviously not today) everything was reasonably accurate to our understanding of dinosaurs, pterosaurs, and marine reptiles at the time. With less speculation than modern documentaries, since they were trying to show them as animals and not make them "interesting".
Even in the first Jurassic Park movie, it still portrays the t rex as an animals, and the other dinos as well. The T. rex could have eaten Grant and Malcolm and the kids, but it was satisfied with a goat and a cowardly lawyer. It was retconned in The Lost World that T. rexes still could see something even if it was still.
History Channel: The Ceratosaurus poisoned our water supply, burned our crops, and delivered a plague unto our houses! Paleontologists: He did? History Channel: No. But are we just gonna wait around until he does?!
It is a real shame that Ceratosaurus was treated so badly in this series, especially given how interesting a dinosaur it is. Even it's relationship with Allosaurus was a lot more interesting than the bully/victim scenario shown on the show. There is strong evidence that Ceratosaurus and Allosaurus had a far more even predatory rivalry something skin to lions and spotted hyenas today. In areas with large Ceratosaurus populations Allosaurus numbers were limited and vice versa, just like hyenas and lions and the Ceratosaurus population may have affected Allosaurus morphology. Allosaurus in areas with high Ceratosaurus numbers had slightly shorter, stronger skulls, suggesting the presence of Ceratosaurus forced Allosaurus to hunt larger prey because Ceratosaurus had the small/medium prey niche filled. Sadly like hyenas and lions in media, we all know who the favorite is here.
Dude that's actually really cool if that's the case. I know in the When Dinosaurs Roamed America documentary it showed a scene of the Allosaurus ambushing and killing a Ceratosaurus, which back then gave me the vibe that they were helpless in comparison. That said, the Lion/Hyena predatory rivalry dynamic helps put it into perspective that just because Ceratosaurus was obviously smaller than Allosaurus, they weren't pushovers necessarily.
You’re reading the Henderson paper completely wrong. Ceratosaurus occurs at much lower frequencies than Allosaurus with the long shouted variant, meaning it was being outcompeted and could only coexist with the short snouted variant. That’s what Henderson says, anyways. All attempts to prove that Allosaurus had different morphotypes has failed until A. madseni, but that distinction has nothing to do with the skull length.
As I'm a film guy, I do not mind a lot of inaccuracies such as feathers, scales, or whatever bullshit Steven did with the Velociraptor.... *in films.* This is a documentary, something that SHOULD tell people accurate depictions and traits of these creatures. Its like if they made a documentary about Abraham Lincoln and made him an Asian with no facial hair and said he was born in Germany.
I TOTALLY AGREE, and SPEAKING OF ABRAHAM LINCOLN, PBS Did a SPOT ON EXQUISITELY ACCURATE (AND IN NO WAY FICTIONAL), DOCUMENTARY ON OUR BELOVED EX PRESIDENTS CAREER AS A VAMPIRE SLAYER BEFORE (AND DURING)HIS TIME IN OFFICE! That DOC CHANGED MY LIFE!! I HAD NO IDEA THE NORTH ALMOST LOST DUE TO ALMOST BEING RUN OVER BY HORDES OF THE UN DEAD! IMAGINE IF LINCOLNS MOTHER HAD NEVER BEEN KILLED BY ONE OF THOSE BLOODSUCKERS? HE WOULD HAVE NEVER PICKED UP HIS AXE AND THOSE NOSFERATU WOULD HAVE DERAILED THE EMANCIPATION OF THE SLAVES (AS THEY WERE EATING THEM). THIS IS HOW YOU MAKE AN ACCURATE AND INSPIRING DOC ON COMPLETELY FACTUAL EVENTS THAT REALLY DID HAPPEN AND ARE NOT IN ANY WAY A FICTIONAL WTF ,ACID TRIP FEVER DREAM BORDERING ON TROGLODYTIC THOUGHT. I mean why couldn't they just have been as Historically accurate with our Favorite Dinosaurs?
@Work and Stuff Every “inaccuracy” that occurred in the Velociraptors was shared with Deinonychus, except for the size. They both should have contour feathers w/ wings.
@workandstuff8096 What Alan digs up is a juvenile V. antirrhopus, whats in the park are called V. mongoliensis, although their description matches what Alan describes V. antirrhopus as (at least I think so). He was going along with Greg Pauls theory iirc, and made Dr. Wu mix the species up. Deinonychus is mentioned by Timmy as a comparison to Velociraptor, and Alan corrects him by saying "Deinonychus is now considered one of the Velociraptors. I really don't think Crichton confused anything.
I still remember how the mother rex proceeded to tear the nanotyrannus into pieces and scatter its meat and bones and blood all around its territory as a "warning" to other predators. All she would have ended up doing was driving away her prey and INVITING other predators to come investigate the area. Also how they kept referring to the Majungasaurus as a species as inbred mutation-filled yokel freaks.
I can't believe I didn't find this video sooner, this perfectly sums up a lot of my issues with this show, in some ways better than I did in my own videos. Thanks for the shout out btw.
Your entire rant about Cerato sums up what it feels like to have any favorite dino be herbivore. There is no game, movie or tv show that doesn't treat any dino that eats plants like a respectable animal and is mainly used to make carni's look cooler or as a punching bag. The only exception to this i can really think of is Disney's "Dinosaurs" sadly. :/
I totally agree. It’s extra disappointing when you realize Large carnivores didn’t attack sauropods, ceratopsians or ankylosaurs unless they absolutely had to. A large torosaurus or ankylosaurus was easily capable of killing a T. rex, hence why hadrosaurs or carrion were the usual entree.
it'd be like if your favorite animal was a deer and all people did was show it being killed by wolves and cougars when deer are quite dangerous and can hurt you pretty bad with a kick and males an have them antlers
I'll be honest as a kid the intense ceratosaurus bullying with allosaurus beating them up made me despise Allosaurus for most of my childhood and teenager years.
@@GalvyTheTom "If" did most of the heavy lifting in my post 😁 Also dead Allosaurus, not horse And Jason Statham might be able to take on a hatchling 😁😁 Sorry dude, sometimes I can't help myself
I really REALLY hate dinosaurs portrayed as screaming and roaring before making a kill. Those would be the ones who starved to death and went extinct. Few predators advertise they are around.much less getting ready to kill and feed.
Funny thing is, we're now relatively sure that bigger theropods wouldn't scream and shout and let it all out at all. They were most likely to be quiet, doing more bassy sounds, almost inaudible except by themselves. So yeah. Tyrannosaurus was most likely to not make a sound at all while hunting, because even if it tried, it couldn't. I wanna see a documentary that pays scientifically accurate attention to dino roars as well. Imagine how scary a giant, mute theropod would be compared to a noisy one.
10:34 To be fair, I feel like back then Nanotyrannus was more widely accepted as a separate genus and it wasn’t proven to be invalid yet so they are at least somewhat justified in that. However they should’ve just left it out entirely
It was mainly because the guy who owned the original fossil refused to donate it for study and tried to auction it off, but people didn't pay as much as he wanted so he left it rotting in his basement for years away from science
@@luisvelez1952 The main theory for the lack of medium sized carnivores that could have had that kind of rivalry is that juvi T-Rex's outcompeted them to extinction.
@@luisvelez1952 Mammalian predators care for their young until they are rather close to full size and feed them their kills so their young occupy the same niche as the adult, these leaves niches open for adults of smaller species. This isn't really the case with dinosaurs whose young were independent at an early age (and very small size) and occupied multiple niches as they grew up, resulting in the opposite effect, less niches available for adults of smaller predators.
@@polaknasieci1331 This is actually a big misconception, you are referring to the "dueling dinosaurs" fossil, which used the Nanotyrannus debate as a way to hype up their auction (around the time this show aired mind you) but it has no relationship with scientific validity of the animal since that is tied to a single specimen which recieves the name of "holotype". The holotype of Nannotyrannus has always been in a museum and it has been proven that it is indeed a young T. rex, when this happens, the invalid name is called a "junior synonym" and can't never be used again for another creature so even if what's in the dueling dinosaurs fossil proves to be unique it would have to be called something else.
17:35 this also doesn't seem too far-fetched. They said that the mouth was full of "bacteria" which would make sense as the residue of a dead dinosaur that was in a dinosaur's mouth after it ate would obviously get bacteria. That is how the connection was made to monitor lizards. This was before the discovery was made that monitors have venom as well as bacteria
I agree! However the point the people were trying to make was serrated teeth = ez bacteria exclusive to T. rex, that’s like saying a Great white has bacteria in its mouth because of its tooth shape, the things you’re saying explain this a lot, I just have an issue with them saying T. rex had bacteria because of a tooth shape that many other genus’s and species before it even existed
Actually the bacteria isn’t a factor AT ALL in Komodo dragons as far as we can tell. It’s believed that it’s actually an unnatural occurrence due to the non native water buffalo it’s hunting. Water Buffalo defecate in water, and on an island with only still water, becomes a cesspool of filth. When attacked the Buffalo run into the water for safety, consequently dipping their fresh open wounds in feces. Kinda funny that whole misconception started from an entirely unnatural situation.
They totally could've made this work by stating outright that the fights were speculative, and visually pluck the dinos from their habitats and drop them together. This would avoid the misconceptions like the ceratosaurus and allosaurus competing for prey. I think there was a series like that with modern animals, where they'd analyze the individual animals and then, speculatively, pit the two together in a fake habitat.
Knowing that Nanotyranus is really a juvenile T.Rex makes the scene even funnier! Like it’s one of the best anti bullying PSA ever! The Juvenile T.Rex bullies the younger one for looking like an old man. So the mama kills her kid’s bully!
Scaly Raptors are a thing on it's own, but if there's one thing I absolutely hate about dinosaur depictions is when they are portrait as those killing mashines that behave in a selfdestructive way no creature with a bit of common sense would do!
It’s hard to believe how poor this documentary was even for early 2000’s standards, and as a child I absolutely loved this show. All of the creature design choices ranged from mediocre to outright inaccurate, and the fossil interpretations were made to be as dramatic as possible which just makes it cringy and unbearable to watch. It’s interesting how George Blasing was able to book his own show and push his own fanboy narrative so heavily. Hell, even the name of the show is just insulting.
It should be named prehistoric fight club not Jurassic fight club if its Jurassic fight club it should have shown fights between animals from the Jurassic period not cretaceous or any Pleistocene sht
Jurassic fight club moto: only one rule: survive Jurassic fight club dinosaurs: *making dumbest decisions possible, which will more likely get them killed*
Tbh I still get a lot of entertainment out of Jurassic Fight Club, although the History Channel has been well known for a long time for being entertainment driven rather than factual.
I actually came to the realization (independently) that "Dinosaur" George is not really a real paleontologist or expert in any kind of biology for that matter. There is TH-cam video of him literally saying that hyenadon was a "kind of wolf" on a news broadcast that was supposed to be an advertisement for a museum or something. Anyone who is well versed in paleontology and biology knows that hyenadon was very distantly related to any modern day carnivorian mammals. I actually met the guy when I was a little kid, but he isn't really an expert in the field at all. I'm sorry, but it is the truth.
Hyenaenodon is related to pangolins technically, but it’s still really distant, but I wonder how many prehistoric creature fans will explode in anger if “Dinosaur” George would call the andrewsarchus “a hyena or canine” when it’s related to modern day bovines-
I hated Jurassic Fight Club because of how the dinosaurs are constantly screeching or roaring at the top of their lungs even for no reason. On top of that, the show wants to teach the audience about dinosaurs, but assumes that violence would be the only way to get audience's attention.
The writers of this Doc clearly watched Peter Jackson’s King Kong & went “Let’s do that, but with Madagascar in the Cretaceous. It’s a tiny island & the Majungasaurus’ are just V-Rexes, horrible deformed inbred monsters.”
Jurassic Fight Club is just another example of Palaeontology being used as an excuse to have extinct animals that we probably will never know the appearance or behaviour of, be portrayed as killing machines who evolved for combat. Portraying an extinct animal, like a carnivorous theropod as a bloodthirsty ass monster, is the same as depicting any modern animal as one, too.
An inaccurate paleo documentary from thousands of years later: Here, we see a pack of foxes hunting for their preferred meal, moose. The foxes encircle the moose and cut off all routes of escape. The moose is helpless as all the foxes, one by one, tear at the moose's flesh.
While watching your review, I just remembered a internet meme I saw on a Primal Carnage forum. The meme appeared to perfectly sum up a lot of the thought-processing behind Jurassic Fight Club, right down to its extreme edginess. When Primal Carnage was first being developed as an indie game, I browsed the discussion threads and saw one member’s profile picture. The Jurassic Park Dilophosaurus was shown with its frills out, and a caption displayed from top to bottom: “Inaccuracy is a b*tch… and I’m her pimp!”
I loved this doc when it first came out. It wasn't until some time later that I really began noticing many flaws with the show. For instance, why would a predator act territorially against a herbivore?
Thank God for AppleTV's Prehistoric Planet...it follows in the footsteps of Walking With Dinosaurs but goes further than it did with portraying dinosaurs as more similar to modern animals in behavior and lifestyle.
Wwd and prehistoric planet Not much roaring√ Portrays some species that care for the young√ Doesn't portrays them as monsters√ Creature designs are from accurate paleontological discoveries√
As someone who has seen both, Prehistoric Planet is one of the best documentaries I have seen these last years, and perfectly encapsulates the magic of the Walking With series
While some predatory dinosaurs may have surplus killed like bears, weasels, or leopards, the way this show describes them as "blood thirsty" or "butchery" is just. Insanely offensive to anyone who knows how predators work, dinosaur, reptile, or mammal. That's not how it works. If it knows it can kill it, sure. It will. But very rarely will a predator just go off and go haywire on anything in it's path. I'm very sorry you had to deal with that stupid ass show lmao
Agree with absolutely everything. I hold this show close to my heart because it helped tremendously in my love for dinosaurs. I can see where they are coming from somewhat because they are covering bones that have been damaged and “imagining” what happened.
I used or wish there was a second season, but after growing up I see now how shit this series was, perhaps shit is too strong but wasted potential that flies in the face of logical animal instinct. Dinosaurs weren’t any different from animals today, it’s like having a documentary about wolves but only showing them butchering caribou and paying no mind to their social structures and raising young. Like yea sometimes predators murder each other to scratch out competition; but they’re calculated, in an all out brawl even if the winner kills the loser they’re now severely wounded and open to infection and vulnerability to other predators. Posturing, not provocation. It’s a no shit thing to say but obviously animals don’t have stores or hospitals so energy wasted and wounds sustained can have dire consequences, treat them like animals that know that.
The thing is why would a T-Rex need bacterial “venom” when it’s bite is enough to be one and done. 6 tonnes of bite force, bone crushing shaped teeth but you need bacteria infection help?
Yeeeeah, I love this show as kid cause of that final segment were they showed the full animated fight. And the flash game on the History channel website was so much fun.
Same but tbh I always found the way the dinos acted dumß. I remember watching the whole “Nanotyrannus” fight and I couldn’t stop myself from laughing when it died from it’s own irrational psychotic “logic”.
most of the complaints were explained by yourself early on. things like pronated claws weren't very popularized yet when this series came out. the only thing i could give you would be the raptors possibly having feathers but i believe this has to do with the popularity of raptor models in jurassic park (which is part of the popularity of raptors in general as before jp they were mostly ignored). and the feathered therapod theory could be argued against given the ceratasaurous mummfied body they found recently that had NO feathers. only ones i've heard actual evidence for it is the dromies. so a lot of these complaints really have to do with the information they had at the time. kind of like spinosaurus has slowly evolved from a land predator to a full aquatic beast. kind of like with hollywood depictions that could be considered sexist now it's mainly a product of its time with what limitations there were and they evolve as time goes on. look at how t rex used to walk for example vs how they have it move now to give a simple example of understanding of the anatomy of the animals. i'd say the same for the sauropods. it's just an evolution of where they are. i'm sure a lot of things today may be laughed at later on, maybe even the feathered dinosaurs. we'll have to see where new data takes us.
Not all of the issues were outdated info..a lot of them were straight up lies I mean how tf could they claim the T. rex had deadly bacteria bites based on it's teeth shape?? It had no evidence to back it up and no one ever thought T. rexes had bacteria infecting bites.
@@testerwulf3357 yeah, the 'real' animal who does that is found that it actually injects venom. so no bacteria. though wounds do get infected. but i'm not surprised. seen other dino videos do similar like trying to say a spino could completely destroy a trex or gigantasaur. not sure why they push these ideas as if they were hollywood themselves.
First of all, no actual evidence of feathers of in dinosaurs other than Dromaeosaurids? What? You ever heard of Yutyrannus or the Maniraptorians? Archaeopteryx and Alvarezsaurids also exist you know. Secondly, Red Raptor Writes only brings up feathers as a problem for the dromaeosaurids and nothing else. So you going on this entire college essay about the representation of feathers on dinosaurs is completely useless.
Don’t quote me on this, but I heard a rumor some time ago that a lot of these paleontologists were brought in under false pretenses. Promising them balanced storytelling and showcasing unique fossil beds, but then presented all their information skewed into a WWE style combat arena. So, I don’t blame paleontologists like Kirkland or Wittmer, but I can’t help looking at Blasing with some skepticism. He’s the main focus in all of the commentaries, so I can’t help but think he has something to do with it.
That "nanotyrannus" literally went suicidal Plus they literally are insulting the ceratosaurus, an animal that has been dead for 150 million years, *JUST FOR A PUNCHINGBAG* The creator of this show is just an allo/rex fanboy
Idk man, Allosaurus also got treated badly in few times, like how the hell does it get itself killed by a Stegosaurus that's LITERALLY STUCK IN THE MUD???
Even as a kid, no matter how much I liked watching this documentary, due to the entertaining fights and visuals, I always felt they treated the Ceratosaurus like crap.
Thank you for making this incredible video. You really made me happy with the in-depth discussion, and yes I also hope that more accurate and truthful data gets given to the public.
What I didn't like about Jurassic Fight Club is that the Nanotyranus used the same roar three times, and made a TIE Fighter sound out of nowhere! Like, bro! What were they trying to achieve with that? They can't expect us to believe that a miniature Tyranosaurus killer is capable of making a noise that made it sound like it joined the Galactic Empire!
At that point, Jurassic Fight Club might as well make the animals breathe fire, or some other dumb bs. This show is already terrible and dumb. Fire breath wouldn't even surprise me.
You had a bad day... Well, think of Ceratosaurus, and put things in perspective😎 (Seriously, why they hated it so much😭, it was the coolest horned dude of the jurassic)
I could just imagine billions of Ceratosaurus's rolling over in their graves because of how they're depicted in this TERRIBLE excuse of a documentary, heck it even makes what Jack Horner did to T rex look tame.
The fact it was called a documentary surprised me. I feel like it should be classified as an action or fight based series, but with more accurate information and no lies. Edit: Still like the show, but I just watch it for the fight and take everything with a grain of salt.
19:21 "Who wants to watch a series where the speakers hate their subject matter? Who wants to watch something that doesn't even take it's own hosts seriously? Or one that makes up complete lies? " I take it you've never seen a political debate.
Even as a kid I remember thinking the "raptor vs t.rex" episode was bullshit for A: essentially being clickbait as there was no fight between the two as the title would imply (which would be equally as ridiculous if not more so than a pack of dromaeosaurus taking down a full grown edmontosaurus, but at least deliver on what you promised), and B:...well I kind of already went over the other issue at the end of "A", didn't I?
Edmontosaurus could nearly grow to twice as big as T-Rex,how tf did these 20 Kilo Raptors kill an animal nearly 3 times bigger than an Elephant?And run away from a far less deadly T-Rex?
Considering how History Channel greenlit Ancient Aliens (despite it tanking their credibility), this would explain a lot… Especially as to how & why JFC is so inaccurate
1st RULE: You do not talk about FIGHT CLUB. 2nd RULE: You DO NOT talk about FIGHT CLUB. 3rd RULE: If someone says "stop" or goes limp, taps out the fight is over. 4th RULE: Only two guys to a fight. 5th RULE: One fight at a time. 6th RULE: No shirts, no shoes. 7th RULE: Fights will go on as long as they have to. 8th RULE: If this is your first night at FIGHT CLUB, you HAVE to fight. Tyrannosaurus Durden
@@maxrichards3881 wdym, Monsters Resurrected literally had Spinosaurus ONE SHOT a Carcharodontosaurus, and even stole footage from OTHER documentaries
@@mattugoji4321 Clash has 4 scenes, and loops the footage constantly, on top of quote mining the experts. The quote mining alone puts it on the bottom.
The most insulting part here was how the narration tried really hard to make the mother Majungasaurus sound cruel and evil for eating her own already-dead baby. What did you expect her to do? Give it a decent Christian burial?
Damn, my childhood was traumatized not just by this portrayal of Ceratosaurus, but also the results of this literal propaganda against this unique based basal predator. It went so far that I had to learn clay animation to make a trash quality Ceratosaurus revenge video when I was a kid. To me, all those fights to the death look like a shitty premise. Usually the animal "fights" rarely go beyond intimidation, and the winners are the ones with the character of a goose.
I would imagine the real(not so) fight between a cerato and an allo would be an allosaurus just had his kill then a cerato smelled the carcass and decide to investigate but the allo fends it off because it dosent want to share so the cerato just sit down or wait few meters away from the allo and the dead dinosaur when the allosaurus had finished he goes off for his daily dino behaviour and the cerato goes for whats left of the carcass prob an almost skeleton with the bones having bits of meat in there
The sequel's out now as I try to rewrite this dumpster fire into something acceptable. th-cam.com/video/Xnw6zRugg-s/w-d-xo.html
There’s evidence that the Nanotyranus is its own creature. Tooth design (being more KNIFE-like instead of banana-like), skeletal structure and various other elements that are nothing like a T-Rex.
Seriously, baby and adolescent T-Rex can’t change body structure due to growth, seriously.
I hate how the have no lips.
Could you please take a look at Giant Monsters with Jeff Corwin?
I agree 100 percent Don Lemon and the rest of the CNN crew ( the China fake news network that works hard on keeping Americans hating each other ) is full of BS but later fines has shown Nano is it's own type of dino and T-Rex did have glans full of bad stuff. Nano was the coyote or wolf of it's time and T-Rex was the Grizzly bear.
@@neganrex5693 Exactly.
To be brutually honest, even though Jurassic Fight Club is relatively bad prehistoric documentary - theres more insulting documentaries out there. Like Monsters Resurrected, that show steals footage from other documentaries and completely lies to its audiences about many different things.
don't get me started with psychopathic spinoaurus that murders a crocodilian and a Carcharodontosaurus that are just minding their business
@@Maretoast Holy fuck remenber those documentaries..., Their Spinosaurus was even worser than JP Spinosaurus it also went psycopathic and as you said and killed some scavengers dinos... for fun I guess plus the poor sarco who where just chilling
The worst of all is the speckles the tarbosaurus bullshit
Propaganda
@@mariodiezvallina8207 I didn't mind that tbh since it wasn't educational and more of a character story which so happens to be about a Tarbosaurus- and hey, Made me wanna look up the dinosaur so...that's a plus from me, lol.
It's sequel though...oh...Either should never had been made OR keep it in the same style as the first one.
Jurassic Fight Club: hates Ceratosaurus
Valley of the T. rex: hates Tyrannosaurus
God creates Ceratosaurus
God creates Allosaurus
Dinosaur George destroys Ceratosaurus
Allosaurus inherits the Earth
@King Ghidorah75 w-why is there a “me:”
Jp 3 didn’t hate T. rex, they killed one off that’s all. In Jurassic fight club the ceratosaurs is just constantly killed and mocked
You know who really hates T-rex, Jack Horner.
Lol nice Jurassic Park reference
The reason Walking With Dinosaurs is so fondly remembered besides portraying the dinosaurs as animals and not hollywood movie monsters. Was due to the fact that for the time the series came out (obviously not today) everything was reasonably accurate to our understanding of dinosaurs, pterosaurs, and marine reptiles at the time. With less speculation than modern documentaries, since they were trying to show them as animals and not make them "interesting".
Even in the first Jurassic Park movie, it still portrays the t rex as an animals, and the other dinos as well. The T. rex could have eaten Grant and Malcolm and the kids, but it was satisfied with a goat and a cowardly lawyer. It was retconned in The Lost World that T. rexes still could see something even if it was still.
@@DINO_X65 yes. Besides the dromaeosaur opening a door, the animal behaviour was, actually, pretty realistic.
I mean also cause there aren’t any humans in it. That’s what drew me into watching it and what made me love it
@@DINO_X65 agreed the first to movies tried to do just that
Just like an actual documentary!
Man, remember when the History Channel actually talked about history.
No, I only remember Bigfoot, bad Dino docs and Pawn Stars
@@romeobelisario3190 Don't forget looking for Nazi treasures and aliens
@@scoutman66 alien Bigfoot looking for nazi dinosaurs treasures. I could see them making a,, document,, like it.
@@scoutman66 and long haul trucking
Everyone can't forget gator hunting!
History Channel: The Ceratosaurus poisoned our water supply, burned our crops, and delivered a plague unto our houses!
Paleontologists: He did?
History Channel: No. But are we just gonna wait around until he does?!
I say WE TIP SOMETHING OVER!
@@jacobcox4565 now what?
This is 2022, we still live off crops?
@@wetube6513 yes.
@@wetube6513 Where do you think vegetables come from? Or wheat, rice, and corn?
It is a real shame that Ceratosaurus was treated so badly in this series, especially given how interesting a dinosaur it is. Even it's relationship with Allosaurus was a lot more interesting than the bully/victim scenario shown on the show.
There is strong evidence that Ceratosaurus and Allosaurus had a far more even predatory rivalry something skin to lions and spotted hyenas today. In areas with large Ceratosaurus populations Allosaurus numbers were limited and vice versa, just like hyenas and lions and the Ceratosaurus population may have affected Allosaurus morphology. Allosaurus in areas with high Ceratosaurus numbers had slightly shorter, stronger skulls, suggesting the presence of Ceratosaurus forced Allosaurus to hunt larger prey because Ceratosaurus had the small/medium prey niche filled.
Sadly like hyenas and lions in media, we all know who the favorite is here.
Basically a paleo stigma that Ceratosaurus was Allosaurus' bitch
@@swood9140 even though Ceratosaurus Dentisculatus was as big as allosaurus and could probably kill one
Dude that's actually really cool if that's the case. I know in the When Dinosaurs Roamed America documentary it showed a scene of the Allosaurus ambushing and killing a Ceratosaurus, which back then gave me the vibe that they were helpless in comparison. That said, the Lion/Hyena predatory rivalry dynamic helps put it into perspective that just because Ceratosaurus was obviously smaller than Allosaurus, they weren't pushovers necessarily.
@@devinp.2934 yeah that Allo was straight up as big as Spinosaurus,I’m talking 15 16 meters,irl Allo was 7-9.2 Meters long(Depending on species)
You’re reading the Henderson paper completely wrong. Ceratosaurus occurs at much lower frequencies than Allosaurus with the long shouted variant, meaning it was being outcompeted and could only coexist with the short snouted variant. That’s what Henderson says, anyways. All attempts to prove that Allosaurus had different morphotypes has failed until A. madseni, but that distinction has nothing to do with the skull length.
"It's like this carnivore went cloaca to cloaca with the producer's wife or something."
Hey, I mean, with those display crests, you never know.
LMAO
Seems like something Chuck Tingle would write about
This implies that the director's wife is not human, not even a mammal
As I'm a film guy, I do not mind a lot of inaccuracies such as feathers, scales, or whatever bullshit Steven did with the Velociraptor.... *in films.* This is a documentary, something that SHOULD tell people accurate depictions and traits of these creatures. Its like if they made a documentary about Abraham Lincoln and made him an Asian with no facial hair and said he was born in Germany.
I TOTALLY AGREE, and SPEAKING OF ABRAHAM LINCOLN, PBS Did a SPOT ON
EXQUISITELY ACCURATE
(AND IN NO WAY FICTIONAL),
DOCUMENTARY ON OUR BELOVED EX PRESIDENTS CAREER AS A VAMPIRE SLAYER BEFORE (AND DURING)HIS TIME IN OFFICE! That DOC CHANGED MY LIFE!! I HAD NO IDEA THE NORTH ALMOST LOST DUE TO ALMOST BEING RUN OVER BY HORDES OF THE UN DEAD!
IMAGINE IF LINCOLNS MOTHER HAD NEVER BEEN KILLED BY ONE OF THOSE BLOODSUCKERS? HE WOULD HAVE NEVER PICKED UP HIS AXE AND THOSE NOSFERATU WOULD HAVE DERAILED THE EMANCIPATION OF THE SLAVES (AS THEY WERE EATING THEM). THIS IS HOW YOU MAKE AN ACCURATE AND INSPIRING DOC ON COMPLETELY FACTUAL EVENTS THAT REALLY DID HAPPEN AND ARE NOT IN ANY WAY A FICTIONAL WTF ,ACID TRIP FEVER DREAM BORDERING ON TROGLODYTIC THOUGHT.
I mean why couldn't they just have been as Historically accurate with our Favorite Dinosaurs?
@Work and Stuff
Every “inaccuracy” that occurred in the Velociraptors was shared with Deinonychus, except for the size.
They both should have contour feathers w/ wings.
@workandstuff8096 What Alan digs up is a juvenile V. antirrhopus, whats in the park are called V. mongoliensis, although their description matches what Alan describes V. antirrhopus as (at least I think so). He was going along with Greg Pauls theory iirc, and made Dr. Wu mix the species up. Deinonychus is mentioned by Timmy as a comparison to Velociraptor, and Alan corrects him by saying "Deinonychus is now considered one of the Velociraptors. I really don't think Crichton confused anything.
Netflix in 2023: behold, Black African Cleopatra!!!
@@polakcebulakfilipWhat's next? 2024 and Half Slavic-Hispanic Hitler who is also a Muslim?
I still remember how the mother rex proceeded to tear the nanotyrannus into pieces and scatter its meat and bones and blood all around its territory as a "warning" to other predators. All she would have ended up doing was driving away her prey and INVITING other predators to come investigate the area.
Also how they kept referring to the Majungasaurus as a species as inbred mutation-filled yokel freaks.
Mother murders child and invites others in for dinner.
Acctuelly Thats a behavior modern animals do as well wolf or lions do it with hyenas or coyotes
To be fair...they probably confused Majungasaurus with the Habsburg line
Oh yah,apparently that was their explanation why they had those short,stubby skulls(even tho there’s an entire species that looked like that ☠️☠️☠️)
@@NashmanNash Habsburgsaurus.
And that is Impossible for Albertosaurus to flip Pachyrhinosaurus a few meters high
Albertosaurus was about 2 Tons while Pachyrhinosaurus was 3,Torvosaurus was the minimum size needed for that to be possible
It’s a Toretto. Anything is possible when it’s for family.
LoOol
I can't believe I didn't find this video sooner, this perfectly sums up a lot of my issues with this show, in some ways better than I did in my own videos. Thanks for the shout out btw.
Wow thanks so much! I'm glad you enjoyed it. Your shoutout was well deserved. The series you did on JFC was amazing.
Hello Paleo Nerd
@@raptorex9411 hello dubious genera
Noice
Hey, 2 legends!
You gotta admit even if its unaccurate show the narrator voice is badass, I would listen to him all day.
He's narrated a lot of documentaries and educational series over the years.
He's my favourite docu narrator.
It's aggressively American.
Ironic how this is commented by a Ceratosaurus
You know, your brothers and sisters get insulted right in front of you
Plus who doesn’t love dinosaur fights
Dinosaur ”documentaries” after putting a few feathers on top of a dromaeosaurus' head: Well boys, we did it. Inaccuracy is no more
"I have never seen a documentary with such a disdain for its subject matter!"
*Valley of the T. rex.*
LMAO
How bad is it?
@@Predator20357 unbelievably so
@@nanuqo2006 Like do they despise T-Rexes?
@@Predator20357 yeah Horner hates T. rex because he finds it every time he wants to dig up Duckbills in Hell Creek
Your entire rant about Cerato sums up what it feels like to have any favorite dino be herbivore.
There is no game, movie or tv show that doesn't treat any dino that eats plants like a respectable animal and is mainly used to make carni's look cooler or as a punching bag.
The only exception to this i can really think of is Disney's "Dinosaurs" sadly. :/
I totally agree. It’s extra disappointing when you realize Large carnivores didn’t attack sauropods, ceratopsians or ankylosaurs unless they absolutely had to.
A large torosaurus or ankylosaurus was easily capable of killing a T. rex, hence why hadrosaurs or carrion were the usual entree.
There was the Stegosaurus, Ankylosaurus, and Diplodocus from WWD?
@@thatoneclonetrooper5663 And the Stegosaurus killed a young Diplodocus, and the Allosaurs then ate it...
@Tyranno_8809 Exactly. Some of them were just as big or bigger than their predators. Everyone sleeps on them and it’s not fair tbh.
it'd be like if your favorite animal was a deer and all people did was show it being killed by wolves and cougars when deer are quite dangerous and can hurt you pretty bad with a kick and males an have them antlers
I'll be honest as a kid the intense ceratosaurus bullying with allosaurus beating them up made me despise Allosaurus for most of my childhood and teenager years.
If one would actually cross your path, you would beat him up for sure!
@@sjonnieplayfull5859Probably shouldn’t be beating this dead horse 2 years on but no human could ever realistically beat an Allosaurus head on
@@GalvyTheTom "If" did most of the heavy lifting in my post 😁
Also dead Allosaurus, not horse
And Jason Statham might be able to take on a hatchling 😁😁
Sorry dude, sometimes I can't help myself
@@sjonnieplayfull5859 ok then, enjoy your day
I really REALLY hate dinosaurs portrayed as screaming and roaring before making a kill. Those would be the ones who starved to death and went extinct. Few predators advertise they are around.much less getting ready to kill and feed.
Imagine if humans screamed at hogs when hunting lmao
Funny thing is, we're now relatively sure that bigger theropods wouldn't scream and shout and let it all out at all. They were most likely to be quiet, doing more bassy sounds, almost inaudible except by themselves.
So yeah. Tyrannosaurus was most likely to not make a sound at all while hunting, because even if it tried, it couldn't.
I wanna see a documentary that pays scientifically accurate attention to dino roars as well. Imagine how scary a giant, mute theropod would be compared to a noisy one.
i believe thats based on angry dogs, which do make noise when attacking
@@OddSifr I've heard that those bassy sounds would practically SHAKE the bones of any prey, stunning it for a few seconds.
@@lukatsgd yeah a hunter isnt angry at its prey when its hunting it, maybe after it fails but not during the hunt
10:34 To be fair, I feel like back then Nanotyrannus was more widely accepted as a separate genus and it wasn’t proven to be invalid yet so they are at least somewhat justified in that. However they should’ve just left it out entirely
It was mainly because the guy who owned the original fossil refused to donate it for study and tried to auction it off, but people didn't pay as much as he wanted so he left it rotting in his basement for years away from science
Lion has been competing with the smaller Hyena and it’s strange that T-Rex never had a small rivalry with another dinosaur in their era
@@luisvelez1952 The main theory for the lack of medium sized carnivores that could have had that kind of rivalry is that juvi T-Rex's outcompeted them to extinction.
@@luisvelez1952 Mammalian predators care for their young until they are rather close to full size and feed them their kills so their young occupy the same niche as the adult, these leaves niches open for adults of smaller species.
This isn't really the case with dinosaurs whose young were independent at an early age (and very small size) and occupied multiple niches as they grew up, resulting in the opposite effect, less niches available for adults of smaller predators.
@@polaknasieci1331 This is actually a big misconception, you are referring to the "dueling dinosaurs" fossil, which used the Nanotyrannus debate as a way to hype up their auction (around the time this show aired mind you) but it has no relationship with scientific validity of the animal since that is tied to a single specimen which recieves the name of "holotype".
The holotype of Nannotyrannus has always been in a museum and it has been proven that it is indeed a young T. rex, when this happens, the invalid name is called a "junior synonym" and can't never be used again for another creature so even if what's in the dueling dinosaurs fossil proves to be unique it would have to be called something else.
17:35 this also doesn't seem too far-fetched.
They said that the mouth was full of "bacteria" which would make sense as the residue of a dead dinosaur that was in a dinosaur's mouth after it ate would obviously get bacteria. That is how the connection was made to monitor lizards.
This was before the discovery was made that monitors have venom as well as bacteria
Fossil evidence of many Tyrannosaur specimens suggests they died from infections in their mouths, which gives more credence to that theory.
I agree! However the point the people were trying to make was serrated teeth = ez bacteria exclusive to T. rex, that’s like saying a Great white has bacteria in its mouth because of its tooth shape, the things you’re saying explain this a lot, I just have an issue with them saying T. rex had bacteria because of a tooth shape that many other genus’s and species before it even existed
Actually the bacteria isn’t a factor AT ALL in Komodo dragons as far as we can tell. It’s believed that it’s actually an unnatural occurrence due to the non native water buffalo it’s hunting. Water Buffalo defecate in water, and on an island with only still water, becomes a cesspool of filth. When attacked the Buffalo run into the water for safety, consequently dipping their fresh open wounds in feces. Kinda funny that whole misconception started from an entirely unnatural situation.
@@redpillfreedom6692 How can we know they died from mouth infections by looking at fossilized bones..? I didn't think that'd be possible to see.
@@testerwulf3357 mouth and tooth infections can be pretty nasty. They can warp and eat away bone if left to fester.
Instant like for a Little Shop of Horrors reference
And Jimmy Neutron and Steamed Hams. It's a great time all around
I miss that series
I like that movie!
They totally could've made this work by stating outright that the fights were speculative, and visually pluck the dinos from their habitats and drop them together. This would avoid the misconceptions like the ceratosaurus and allosaurus competing for prey.
I think there was a series like that with modern animals, where they'd analyze the individual animals and then, speculatively, pit the two together in a fake habitat.
That would be Animal Face Off.
There is actually a show like that, and it’s not garbage.
Was that Animal Face-off? Loved that shit as a kid
@@maxrichards3881 wats it called?
@@spino4247
Clash of the Dinosaurs
_"Allosaurus had never seen such bullshit before."_
His reputation was boosted through negatively dismissing another, which made it bothered
Knowing that Nanotyranus is really a juvenile T.Rex makes the scene even funnier! Like it’s one of the best anti bullying PSA ever! The Juvenile T.Rex bullies the younger one for looking like an old man. So the mama kills her kid’s bully!
Scaly Raptors are a thing on it's own, but if there's one thing I absolutely hate about dinosaur depictions is when they are portrait as those killing mashines that behave in a selfdestructive way no creature with a bit of common sense would do!
I feel sorry for Ceratosaurus
Me too.
Cerato gang rise up
And Albertosaurs
Cassowary fans join in!!!!
You don't need to, if the theory is correct that the ceratosaurus is sleeping with the directors wife
It’s hard to believe how poor this documentary was even for early 2000’s standards, and as a child I absolutely loved this show. All of the creature design choices ranged from mediocre to outright inaccurate, and the fossil interpretations were made to be as dramatic as possible which just makes it cringy and unbearable to watch. It’s interesting how George Blasing was able to book his own show and push his own fanboy narrative so heavily. Hell, even the name of the show is just insulting.
It should be named prehistoric fight club not Jurassic fight club if its Jurassic fight club it should have shown fights between animals from the Jurassic period not cretaceous or any Pleistocene sht
@@SirGoofyparrotfish
Or it’s a reference to Jurassic Park, like nearly everything in general audience’s minds when it comes to dinosauria.
Jurassic fight club moto: only one rule: survive
Jurassic fight club dinosaurs: *making dumbest decisions possible, which will more likely get them killed*
I Love How they Have the Nerve to Say "the Allosaurus *Wisely* goes After the Camarasaurus" Like What???
Haven't you heard? A ceratosaurus destroyed his minecraft house, it was pretty brutal.
First rule of Jurassic Fight Club:
Never tell ANYONE about Jurassic Fight Club.
Tbh I still get a lot of entertainment out of Jurassic Fight Club, although the History Channel has been well known for a long time for being entertainment driven rather than factual.
I actually came to the realization (independently) that "Dinosaur" George is not really a real paleontologist or expert in any kind of biology for that matter.
There is TH-cam video of him literally saying that hyenadon was a "kind of wolf" on a news broadcast that was supposed to be an advertisement for a museum or something.
Anyone who is well versed in paleontology and biology knows that hyenadon was very distantly related to any modern day carnivorian mammals.
I actually met the guy when I was a little kid, but he isn't really an expert in the field at all. I'm sorry, but it is the truth.
Hyenaenodon is related to pangolins technically, but it’s still really distant, but I wonder how many prehistoric creature fans will explode in anger if “Dinosaur” George would call the andrewsarchus “a hyena or canine” when it’s related to modern day bovines-
@@kelpieseas3494 Andrewsarchus is also kind of a hippo(literally a hippo like creatures from what I have heard)
Honestly, who puts “dinosaur” in front of his name? Seems a bit pretentious.
I hated Jurassic Fight Club because of how the dinosaurs are constantly screeching or roaring at the top of their lungs even for no reason. On top of that, the show wants to teach the audience about dinosaurs, but assumes that violence would be the only way to get audience's attention.
These are living breathing animals. Not Battle hungry Saiyans
The writers of this Doc clearly watched Peter Jackson’s King Kong & went “Let’s do that, but with Madagascar in the Cretaceous. It’s a tiny island & the Majungasaurus’ are just V-Rexes, horrible deformed inbred monsters.”
Long ago, the Ceratosaurus lived together in harmony. But then, everything changed when the Allosaurus attacked.
Jurassic Fight Club is just another example of Palaeontology being used as an excuse to have extinct animals that we probably will never know the appearance or behaviour of, be portrayed as killing machines who evolved for combat. Portraying an extinct animal, like a carnivorous theropod as a bloodthirsty ass monster, is the same as depicting any modern animal as one, too.
An inaccurate paleo documentary from thousands of years later: Here, we see a pack of foxes hunting for their preferred meal, moose. The foxes encircle the moose and cut off all routes of escape. The moose is helpless as all the foxes, one by one, tear at the moose's flesh.
@@jacobcox4565 ikr
As a Ceratosaurus I will be filing a formal complaint.
While watching your review, I just remembered a internet meme I saw on a Primal Carnage forum. The meme appeared to perfectly sum up a lot of the thought-processing behind Jurassic Fight Club, right down to its extreme edginess.
When Primal Carnage was first being developed as an indie game, I browsed the discussion threads and saw one member’s profile picture. The Jurassic Park Dilophosaurus was shown with its frills out, and a caption displayed from top to bottom:
“Inaccuracy is a b*tch… and I’m her pimp!”
Honestly, the best episodes of the series was the Megalodon vs the Brygmophyseter and the Utahraptor vs Gastonia episode.
I loved this doc when it first came out. It wasn't until some time later that I really began noticing many flaws with the show. For instance, why would a predator act territorially against a herbivore?
They probably would if the preadtor had a kid or something.
Thank God for AppleTV's Prehistoric Planet...it follows in the footsteps of Walking With Dinosaurs but goes further than it did with portraying dinosaurs as more similar to modern animals in behavior and lifestyle.
Wwd and prehistoric planet
Not much roaring√
Portrays some species that care for the young√
Doesn't portrays them as monsters√
Creature designs are from accurate paleontological discoveries√
As someone who has seen both, Prehistoric Planet is one of the best documentaries I have seen these last years, and perfectly encapsulates the magic of the Walking With series
While some predatory dinosaurs may have surplus killed like bears, weasels, or leopards, the way this show describes them as "blood thirsty" or "butchery" is just. Insanely offensive to anyone who knows how predators work, dinosaur, reptile, or mammal. That's not how it works. If it knows it can kill it, sure. It will. But very rarely will a predator just go off and go haywire on anything in it's path.
I'm very sorry you had to deal with that stupid ass show lmao
This documentary in a nutshell:
0% animals being animals
0% interesting subjects
20% lies
80% ceratosaurus abuse
14:24 "History channel is fake"
Ancient Aliens: First time?
Agree with absolutely everything. I hold this show close to my heart because it helped tremendously in my love for dinosaurs. I can see where they are coming from somewhat because they are covering bones that have been damaged and “imagining” what happened.
Flaws aside, the Allosaurus design is really cool. I especially love the color scheme.
I agree. I even sublimated a render of the JFC Allosaurus on a mug.
It is largely based on Saurophaganax and has the head of Allosaurus jimadensi, although it is called Allosaurus fragilis.
11:34 You also realize that the adult Stego just freed her tail and killed an Allo beforehand
You also realize that Allosaurus could've just crushed it's neck lol
The “Little Shop” bit at 4:01 broke me, I had to pause the video due to laughing so hard at the breaking bones sound effect with Seymour’s lyrics
😂😂😂
I used or wish there was a second season, but after growing up I see now how shit this series was, perhaps shit is too strong but wasted potential that flies in the face of logical animal instinct. Dinosaurs weren’t any different from animals today, it’s like having a documentary about wolves but only showing them butchering caribou and paying no mind to their social structures and raising young. Like yea sometimes predators murder each other to scratch out competition; but they’re calculated, in an all out brawl even if the winner kills the loser they’re now severely wounded and open to infection and vulnerability to other predators. Posturing, not provocation. It’s a no shit thing to say but obviously animals don’t have stores or hospitals so energy wasted and wounds sustained can have dire consequences, treat them like animals that know that.
Honestly what I expected from the channel that devolved into nothing but aliens and pawn shops.
*Asks for a quality documentary
"The best I can do is crap"
"I've never seen a documentary show such distain for its subject matter"
Valley of the t-rex: we'd like to introduce ourselves
*Proceeds to make T-Rex as ugly as can possibly be*
@@kentrosaurusboi3909 and dummy thick
@@tylervanpeursem7627 Exactly
“This guy (Majungasaurus) was basically the killer sausage of Madagascar.”
😂😂😂I’m dying!!!!😂😂😂😂
The thing is why would a T-Rex need bacterial “venom” when it’s bite is enough to be one and done. 6 tonnes of bite force, bone crushing shaped teeth but you need bacteria infection help?
🦷
Why the hell would trex want to poison its prey? Its an ambush predator that basically aims to kill its prey with a swift and crushing bite.
This man literally destroyed my childhood
Lmao
Yeeeeah, I love this show as kid cause of that final segment were they showed the full animated fight. And the flash game on the History channel website was so much fun.
@@codagaming9186 ye true this show was fun to watch as a kid
Same but tbh I always found the way the dinos acted dumß. I remember watching the whole “Nanotyrannus” fight and I couldn’t stop myself from laughing when it died from it’s own irrational psychotic “logic”.
Bully Maguire: wanna cry? :)
most of the complaints were explained by yourself early on. things like pronated claws weren't very popularized yet when this series came out. the only thing i could give you would be the raptors possibly having feathers but i believe this has to do with the popularity of raptor models in jurassic park (which is part of the popularity of raptors in general as before jp they were mostly ignored). and the feathered therapod theory could be argued against given the ceratasaurous mummfied body they found recently that had NO feathers. only ones i've heard actual evidence for it is the dromies.
so a lot of these complaints really have to do with the information they had at the time. kind of like spinosaurus has slowly evolved from a land predator to a full aquatic beast. kind of like with hollywood depictions that could be considered sexist now it's mainly a product of its time with what limitations there were and they evolve as time goes on. look at how t rex used to walk for example vs how they have it move now to give a simple example of understanding of the anatomy of the animals. i'd say the same for the sauropods. it's just an evolution of where they are. i'm sure a lot of things today may be laughed at later on, maybe even the feathered dinosaurs. we'll have to see where new data takes us.
Not all of the issues were outdated info..a lot of them were straight up lies I mean how tf could they claim the T. rex had deadly bacteria bites based on it's teeth shape?? It had no evidence to back it up and no one ever thought T. rexes had bacteria infecting bites.
@@testerwulf3357 yeah, the 'real' animal who does that is found that it actually injects venom. so no bacteria. though wounds do get infected. but i'm not surprised. seen other dino videos do similar like trying to say a spino could completely destroy a trex or gigantasaur. not sure why they push these ideas as if they were hollywood themselves.
First of all, no actual evidence of feathers of in dinosaurs other than Dromaeosaurids? What? You ever heard of Yutyrannus or the Maniraptorians? Archaeopteryx and Alvarezsaurids also exist you know.
Secondly, Red Raptor Writes only brings up feathers as a problem for the dromaeosaurids and nothing else. So you going on this entire college essay about the representation of feathers on dinosaurs is completely useless.
12:02 "...only to give it the decision-making of a drunk driver." 😂😂😂
XD
Allosaurus and Ceratosaurus co-existed like lions and jackals today, filling different niches and largely avoiding eachother.
Don’t quote me on this, but I heard a rumor some time ago that a lot of these paleontologists were brought in under false pretenses. Promising them balanced storytelling and showcasing unique fossil beds, but then presented all their information skewed into a WWE style combat arena. So, I don’t blame paleontologists like Kirkland or Wittmer, but I can’t help looking at Blasing with some skepticism. He’s the main focus in all of the commentaries, so I can’t help but think he has something to do with it.
That "nanotyrannus" literally went suicidal
Plus they literally are insulting the ceratosaurus, an animal that has been dead for 150 million years, *JUST FOR A PUNCHINGBAG*
The creator of this show is just an allo/rex fanboy
Idk man, Allosaurus also got treated badly in few times, like how the hell does it get itself killed by a Stegosaurus that's LITERALLY STUCK IN THE MUD???
Even as a kid, no matter how much I liked watching this documentary, due to the entertaining fights and visuals, I always felt they treated the Ceratosaurus like crap.
Thank you for making this incredible video. You really made me happy with the in-depth discussion, and yes I also hope that more accurate and truthful data gets given to the public.
Back in the day, this was an entertaining show (namely because of withdraws from Animal Planet's Animal Face-Off). Rewatching this is always comical 😂
Jurassic Fight Club in a nutshell: A little child bashing his dinosaur toys 24/7.
I used to like the show too but now when I look back it’s just a waste of my time animals are animals not monsters and you have to respect that
I agree 100 percent.
How about chimps? They're cannibal bloodthirsty killing machines.
What I didn't like about Jurassic Fight Club is that the Nanotyranus used the same roar three times, and made a TIE Fighter sound out of nowhere! Like, bro! What were they trying to achieve with that? They can't expect us to believe that a miniature Tyranosaurus killer is capable of making a noise that made it sound like it joined the Galactic Empire!
Jurassic fight club: Who cares about accuracy
Accuracy: I am the most important part
Jurassic fight club: not anymore
At that point, Jurassic Fight Club might as well make the animals breathe fire, or some other dumb bs. This show is already terrible and dumb. Fire breath wouldn't even surprise me.
You had a bad day... Well, think of Ceratosaurus, and put things in perspective😎
(Seriously, why they hated it so much😭, it was the coolest horned dude of the jurassic)
I was so sad cuz cerato was my favorite jurassic period dinosaur😢.
Yeah ceratosaurus is epic but they treat it like shit
The fact that it aired on the history channel already tells you all you need to know
I could just imagine billions of Ceratosaurus's rolling over in their graves because of how they're depicted in this TERRIBLE excuse of a documentary, heck it even makes what Jack Horner did to T rex look tame.
This is why I take everything the History channel says with a grain of salt.
If Jurassic fight club was a video game instead of a documentary(there is a game based in the show however just stay with me) it be way more popular
18:43 These animals wouldn't have kamikaze to maintain their HONOR
Zuko: Did I just heard honor?
The fact it was called a documentary surprised me. I feel like it should be classified as an action or fight based series, but with more accurate information and no lies.
Edit: Still like the show, but I just watch it for the fight and take everything with a grain of salt.
If you're wondering on his accuracy tier list, JFC is on the F tier. Thank me for the information later.
“Majungatholis” made me have a stroke
I love feather dinosaurs I wish there were more feather dino design
19:21 "Who wants to watch a series where the speakers hate their subject matter? Who wants to watch something that doesn't even take it's own hosts seriously? Or one that makes up complete lies? " I take it you've never seen a political debate.
Fun fact: there is a flash game, called "Jurassic fight club turf war", which is basically an "ok" parody of primal rage
Ceratosaur is a very interesting dinosaur to me that’s deserves more recognition especially the Utah raptor.
Even as a kid I remember thinking the "raptor vs t.rex" episode was bullshit for A: essentially being clickbait as there was no fight between the two as the title would imply (which would be equally as ridiculous if not more so than a pack of dromaeosaurus taking down a full grown edmontosaurus, but at least deliver on what you promised), and B:...well I kind of already went over the other issue at the end of "A", didn't I?
Edmontosaurus could nearly grow to twice as big as T-Rex,how tf did these 20 Kilo Raptors kill an animal nearly 3 times bigger than an Elephant?And run away from a far less deadly T-Rex?
@@suchomimustenerensis
Edmontosaurus didn't grow that large. None of the duckbills did.
@@suchomimustenerensis what the fuck .??
@@redpillfreedom6692 Edmonton saurus weight: 7.5 tons
@@redpillfreedom6692 and largest one was 18 tons
Ceratosaurus is really the Spider-Man of dinosaurs. Both are just hated by the producers for some reason.
When making a documentary, you want your audience to bring out a pencil on a notepad instead of popcorn. This show fails spectacularly at that
The Dromeosaurs portrayals are unforgivable
Considering how History Channel greenlit Ancient Aliens (despite it tanking their credibility), this would explain a lot…
Especially as to how & why JFC is so inaccurate
1st RULE: You do not talk about FIGHT CLUB.
2nd RULE: You DO NOT talk about FIGHT CLUB.
3rd RULE: If someone says "stop" or goes limp, taps out the fight is over.
4th RULE: Only two guys to a fight.
5th RULE: One fight at a time.
6th RULE: No shirts, no shoes.
7th RULE: Fights will go on as long as they have to.
8th RULE: If this is your first night at FIGHT CLUB, you HAVE to fight.
Tyrannosaurus Durden
I’m surprised it doesn’t claim allosaurus built the pyramids
No apatosaurus built them
I'm torn between what's worse, this mockumentary or the blight on humanity called monsters resurrected
The trifecta of terrible prehistoric life documentaries
-Jurassic Fight Club
-Valley of the T.rex
-Monsters Resurrected
Replace Monsters Resurrected with the other 2009 Discovery Dino doc: Clash of the Dinosaurs.
@@maxrichards3881 wdym, Monsters Resurrected literally had Spinosaurus ONE SHOT a Carcharodontosaurus, and even stole footage from OTHER documentaries
@@mattugoji4321
Clash has 4 scenes, and loops the footage constantly, on top of quote mining the experts.
The quote mining alone puts it on the bottom.
@@maxrichards3881 MR has the Spinosaurus the size of a fucking sauropod
The Majungasaurus was sick of having small legs, so he was like: let me do it for you with the legs.
The most insulting part here was how the narration tried really hard to make the mother Majungasaurus sound cruel and evil for eating her own already-dead baby. What did you expect her to do? Give it a decent Christian burial?
ikr there are animals that eat their young if they die (sometimes thats not even required)
Quokkas will toss their own offspring at predators in order to distract them.
Chimpanzees...
@3:55 I was not expecting a Little Shop of Horrors reference here, you are truly a man of culture.
You deserve a like just because you mentioned that Komodos have venom and not some hyper deadly bacteria.
You need to upload that Steamed Hams segment separately somewhere! Too good!
I think I remember every dangerous animal on this show had a "razor sharp" something.
Crazy that he shouted out paleonerd but now got called out by him
I laughed way too much about the steamed hams skit than I should have xD
Damn, my childhood was traumatized not just by this portrayal of Ceratosaurus, but also the results of this literal propaganda against this unique based basal predator. It went so far that I had to learn clay animation to make a trash quality Ceratosaurus revenge video when I was a kid. To me, all those fights to the death look like a shitty premise. Usually the animal "fights" rarely go beyond intimidation, and the winners are the ones with the character of a goose.
I would imagine the real(not so) fight between a cerato and an allo would be an allosaurus just had his kill then a cerato smelled the carcass and decide to investigate but the allo fends it off because it dosent want to share so the cerato just sit down or wait few meters away from the allo and the dead dinosaur when the allosaurus had finished he goes off for his daily dino behaviour and the cerato goes for whats left of the carcass prob an almost skeleton with the bones having bits of meat in there