NTA. Jenna is a grown ass woman who has always been jealous of OP. Her own actions got her kicked out. She needs to be an adult and deal with her consequences.
I think OP should have a bonding experience with her dad and do a cooking class together after the divorce is done with it would probably make her dad feel better
Lol If you're your father's only child who else the money is for this stepmom was crazy for saying anything like that about his only daughter unless she was a bum or a user 🤷
Jenna should have never picked a man with a daughter. If she wanted to be the main priority in a relationship, she should have found a man who didn't have or want children. But no, she picked a man with money who had a daughter and who wouldn't forsake the kid for her. The Queen Bee has been kicked out of her hive
Actually, she should not have married any man AT ALL. She is PSYCHOTIC or SOCIOPATHIC and just flat out EVIL. Not everyone particularly likes children but what she did was beyond the pail. NO PERSON should be married to someone like this EVEN IF THEY DO NOT HAVE A CHILD ANYWAY. Its best that she never gets married and I hope every friend she has shuns her when they hear about this. She deserves to be an outcast in society and maybe she can avoid total isolation by getting some pet cats or something.
She should not have picked any man AT ALL. No person should have to suffer the fate of being married to a person like her. She is a sociopath or something.
Imagine the Karen who would marry a man with a child and then have one-sided beef with that child to the point that it nuked her marriage when that child was a nearly married adult 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
I posted above that she never loved her husband in the first place. You cannot love a person AND abuse the person's child. Like Ferris Bueller (Matthew Broderick" said in his movie FERRIS BUELLER'S DAY OFF when he said "you cannot respect a person who kisses your @$$, it just does not work) well this is something else that just does not work.
So Jenna gave up her job, to be a parasite on dad. Why should Jenna have the house? Did dad buy it before he married Jenna? Then she can't have any of it - pre-marital property. Alimony? Dad needs to fight for very little alimony, and Dad needs YOUR testimony in court and Adrian's , becuase of what she did to him too.Jenna can work. She's got no childcare issues and no0 reason at all not to go back to her career.
“Not let that get to me” is the universal sign for spinelessness. People get away with so much enabling their poor behaviors because people think “not letting them get to you” actually works. If you have to force it, then it’s an affectation and it does actually get to you. So do something about it.
I honestly think the reason op gave the ultimatum despite keeping the peace for so long was both because stepmom trying to sabotage her marriage was just the last straw but also because she might have lost filial trust in her dad. She felt like even when she spoke up about it as a kid, he may not have believed her and didnt want to stress out her dad. I think overtime her heart hardened and she just started loving her dad less because she lwokey associated him with evil stepmom
Jenna tried to get ur fiancé to leave u . That is absolutely evil. she did not prank u guys , she had photos edited to support her false story . That is messed up ! ..
and now she's crying because op's dad was so angry at her that she "couldn't explain herself"?! Oh, so the nasty manipulator got confronted with her lies and couldn't think up another lie on the spot? Oh boo-freaking-hoo!
YES and she should have been SUED for that. There has to be a law against that kind of thing. It proves that she never loved her husband. You cannot do something that horrible to a person's child if you love the person.
Defamation lawsuit should have been filed against Jenna. OP should have been recording Jenna being mean while she was a child. She should have told her mother she wanted to live with her and visit her father with the stepmother nowhere around. Her dad and Jenna ultimately split up, all OP did was delay the inevitable. She could not go back to her father after what his wife did, so she had to either go NC or the dad get a divorce. OP just wasted a lot of time putting up with bad behavior, for no reason.
So OP never recorded the stepmom? Either video audio or even in a journal? No kidding “she was a child”! A teen and 20-something that didn’t record vital interactions in her life? On what planet?! I don’t know dad’s response yet but if OP did it right there’s no doubt dad would have to dump the lunatic wife. Some proof beyond the text and a pic that’s hard to explain exactly why it’s so damning. Poor stupid dad. Idiot didn’t believe his daughter then she hid all the abuse. What else was he supposed to think? “I’m with a monster but my kid just hasn’t shown me the proof yet”? What a mess
She told her dad and from listening to Jenna and his discussion she knew that she couldn't win. She played the long game and won when Jenna handed her ammunition.
It's bc she's (OP) no longer an 8-12 year old child that made it out of a childhood with a wicked stepmother bc she's grown, about to marry, and the woman STILL. WONT. STOP. so it wasn't even just she's a byproduct of her mother and fathers past relationship the stepmother didn't want around bc that time of her childhood has gone. That evil b*tch deserves the streets. In the end the lifelong pervasive and chronic targeting didn't have any meaning at all except bc the lady is SICK. She deserves ratting out the child showed more grace and love if only for her father than any of us would. OP's timing makes 110% sense. She loves her dad of course she feels bad but at some point you have to choose yourself and your life.
nah, it's always baffles me, that almost noone record conversations with people who hate them before closed doors. Many stories on /aita or /relashionships could be solved much easier with damn microphone
@@helar2574 she was 12 long before those devices were ubiquitous and available and every child and adult is different. Jenna is not exactly tech blind, as her photoshopped plan shows
Ultimatums are 99.99% the wrong thing to give a person. Never force a person to choose between yourself & someone else. They will be better off, and so will you, to know the truth & make their own decisions. If they choose to ignore facts, do you really want to have them in your life?😊
I'm pretty sure it's closer to 70-80% of the time it's the wrong thing, but people refusing to allow you to have boundaries or to do something basic that they need to do this Can be the correct thing to do. Even then it's to give you a chance to fix things afterwards, after you've decided to just end things if that issue isn't fixed.
I strongly DISAGREE with the OP. The ultimatum was NOT extreme and was NOT inappropriate. It was TOTALLY JUSTIFIED. I already explained why on other threads the wife does not at all love him, and using a conspiracy of faked proofs to sabotage the marriage of her husband's daughter crosses so many lines that the ultimatum is totally appropriate and I would have wanted the OP to stick to her guns if her father had ended up NOT divorcing her. Luckily that did not happen.
None of this is Real, and if So, then the the Future of Humanity is Doomed! Op Not telling her Father, I have to Side Eye, but what was her Reason, for NOT Telling Her Mother, or Anyone Else? It's Crazy how Nobody Notice, Op's Strange Behavior with the Stepmom. Story Didn't make me Feel anything for Op, ESH
Camera up kid. Get her on video. Get your mom to purchase two tell her what is going on at your dads and that you need proof. She’ll help you get the facts straight
Story one She is not jealous of your fiancee his a man not her rival but if she could break your heart she be delighted I hope he not stupid enough and now your father has to realise you where telling him the truth I hope you showed your father, she has given you years of abuse What was your father's first reaction to the texts and edited pictures she going to go to great lengths to destroy your wedding she going to storm your wedding so got security He will probably reunite after your wedding she has nothing but malicious intentions towards you she extremely jealous of you and your mother other women are rivals to her Beware of your step mother she manipulative
Do you not know how to use a recorder? AS proof for your dad. Don't be a door mate fight back. You let her get away with what she did for to long. Your as bad as her by not fighting bad.
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NTA. Jenna is a grown ass woman who has always been jealous of OP. Her own actions got her kicked out. She needs to be an adult and deal with her consequences.
I think OP should have a bonding experience with her dad and do a cooking class together after the divorce is done with it would probably make her dad feel better
The step mother does NOT love her husband. You cannot love a person AND abuse that person's child. It just does not work.
Lol If you're your father's only child who else the money is for this stepmom was crazy for saying anything like that about his only daughter unless she was a bum or a user 🤷
S1- step-mom is just a piece of work. Even if they didn't get along, trying to sabotage OP's relationship is crosses the line.
S1? Where's the second story? There's only one story here with updates
Can the OP SUE for that? Defamation or something? A blatant lie to ruin a relationship? I don't know if you can sue for that?
Jenna should have never picked a man with a daughter. If she wanted to be the main priority in a relationship, she should have found a man who didn't have or want children. But no, she picked a man with money who had a daughter and who wouldn't forsake the kid for her.
The Queen Bee has been kicked out of her hive
Actually, she should not have married any man AT ALL. She is PSYCHOTIC or SOCIOPATHIC and just flat out EVIL. Not everyone particularly likes children but what she did was beyond the pail. NO PERSON should be married to someone like this EVEN IF THEY DO NOT HAVE A CHILD ANYWAY.
Its best that she never gets married and I hope every friend she has shuns her when they hear about this. She deserves to be an outcast in society and maybe she can avoid total isolation by getting some pet cats or something.
She should not have picked any man AT ALL. No person should have to suffer the fate of being married to a person like her. She is a sociopath or something.
Imagine the Karen who would marry a man with a child and then have one-sided beef with that child to the point that it nuked her marriage when that child was a nearly married adult 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
I posted above that she never loved her husband in the first place. You cannot love a person AND abuse the person's child. Like Ferris Bueller (Matthew Broderick" said in his movie FERRIS BUELLER'S DAY OFF when he said "you cannot respect a person who kisses your @$$, it just does not work) well this is something else that just does not work.
So Jenna gave up her job, to be a parasite on dad. Why should Jenna have the house? Did dad buy it before he married Jenna? Then she can't have any of it - pre-marital property. Alimony? Dad needs to fight for very little alimony, and Dad needs YOUR testimony in court and Adrian's , becuase of what she did to him too.Jenna can work. She's got no childcare issues and no0 reason at all not to go back to her career.
“Not let that get to me” is the universal sign for spinelessness. People get away with so much enabling their poor behaviors because people think “not letting them get to you” actually works. If you have to force it, then it’s an affectation and it does actually get to you. So do something about it.
As far Jenna's friends go, show them the texts she sent to Adrian and then block the lot of them.
Tough it out = being a doormat
I honestly think the reason op gave the ultimatum despite keeping the peace for so long was both because stepmom trying to sabotage her marriage was just the last straw but also because she might have lost filial trust in her dad. She felt like even when she spoke up about it as a kid, he may not have believed her and didnt want to stress out her dad. I think overtime her heart hardened and she just started loving her dad less because she lwokey associated him with evil stepmom
She doesn't really believe she was "saving him" that's just an excuse for her to get rid of you...
It wasn’t about saving her vacation, it’s just spite. She wanted to ruin her life for no other reason than to enjoy the pain.
I love happy endings lol
What a terrible step mother. That said, ultimatums to your father is a stupid idea.
OP can't fix things between dad and Jenna without destroying her own relationship with dad.
Jenna tried to get ur fiancé to leave u . That is absolutely evil. she did not prank u guys , she had photos edited to support her false story . That is messed up ! ..
and now she's crying because op's dad was so angry at her that she "couldn't explain herself"?! Oh, so the nasty manipulator got confronted with her lies and couldn't think up another lie on the spot? Oh boo-freaking-hoo!
YES and she should have been SUED for that. There has to be a law against that kind of thing. It proves that she never loved her husband. You cannot do something that horrible to a person's child if you love the person.
Defamation lawsuit should have been filed against Jenna. OP should have been recording Jenna being mean while she was a child. She should have told her mother she wanted to live with her and visit her father with the stepmother nowhere around. Her dad and Jenna ultimately split up, all OP did was delay the inevitable. She could not go back to her father after what his wife did, so she had to either go NC or the dad get a divorce. OP just wasted a lot of time putting up with bad behavior, for no reason.
S2 - How was it that the HOA only got involved after a complaint? Should have gotten involved when they dump the soil on the roadside.
HOA are not fair or just ..they can (in most cases) do what they want
If op. Know that her stepmom is crazy then she should have block her number number and made sure that fiance didn’t have his stepmom number
In the age of mobiles why do these people not record the actions and conversations?
Would it have been possible to record Jenna being nasty to OP?
Another story from the bizarre otherworld where everyone hasnt has a voice recorder in their pocket for the last twenty years.
So OP never recorded the stepmom? Either video audio or even in a journal? No kidding “she was a child”!
A teen and 20-something that didn’t record vital interactions in her life?
On what planet?!
I don’t know dad’s response yet but if OP did it right there’s no doubt dad would have to dump the lunatic wife.
Some proof beyond the text and a pic that’s hard to explain exactly why it’s so damning.
Poor stupid dad. Idiot didn’t believe his daughter then she hid all the abuse. What else was he supposed to think? “I’m with a monster but my kid just hasn’t shown me the proof yet”?
What a mess
I don't know why people just don't give the 👍 and call it a day LOL
this op somewhat annoyed me because she waited this long to tell her dad and then feels bad when she did make no sense
Erm, never heard of phrase "man thinks with lower part"? Plus if Jenna is good manipulator she will always wins against kid.
@@helar2574what does that have to do with anything here? It's a woman not talking to her father lol
She told her dad and from listening to Jenna and his discussion she knew that she couldn't win. She played the long game and won when Jenna handed her ammunition.
It's bc she's (OP) no longer an 8-12 year old child that made it out of a childhood with a wicked stepmother bc she's grown, about to marry, and the woman STILL. WONT. STOP. so it wasn't even just she's a byproduct of her mother and fathers past relationship the stepmother didn't want around bc that time of her childhood has gone. That evil b*tch deserves the streets. In the end the lifelong pervasive and chronic targeting didn't have any meaning at all except bc the lady is SICK. She deserves ratting out the child showed more grace and love if only for her father than any of us would. OP's timing makes 110% sense. She loves her dad of course she feels bad but at some point you have to choose yourself and your life.
She was a 12 years old with little life experience. Jenna shot herself in the foot when she tried to do the same stunts with an almost 30 woman
Maybe record her behaviour?!? Not once did you think of this??
nah, it's always baffles me, that almost noone record conversations with people who hate them before closed doors. Many stories on /aita or /relashionships could be solved much easier with damn microphone
She was a 12 years old, not an FBI agent trained for that
@@MatildeVallespinCasas tell that to my 6 yo niece, she has nasty habbit of recording adult's promises to her...
@@helar2574 she was 12 long before those devices were ubiquitous and available and every child and adult is different. Jenna is not exactly tech blind, as her photoshopped plan shows
@@MatildeVallespinCasas nah, it was just comment about age and technology, not linked to this particular story 😁
Girl you have the text of her confessing and the text lies she sent your fiance--post that shit as your proof that she did all this to herself.
recording devices are your friend!!
Seriously, an ex wouldn't believe that her friend would lie about her to me until a recording device proved it. (not why we broke up)
Ultimatums are 99.99% the wrong thing to give a person. Never force a person to choose between yourself & someone else. They will be better off, and so will you, to know the truth & make their own decisions. If they choose to ignore facts, do you really want to have them in your life?😊
I'm pretty sure it's closer to 70-80% of the time it's the wrong thing, but people refusing to allow you to have boundaries or to do something basic that they need to do this Can be the correct thing to do. Even then it's to give you a chance to fix things afterwards, after you've decided to just end things if that issue isn't fixed.
I strongly DISAGREE with the OP. The ultimatum was NOT extreme and was NOT inappropriate. It was TOTALLY JUSTIFIED. I already explained why on other threads the wife does not at all love him, and using a conspiracy of faked proofs to sabotage the marriage of her husband's daughter crosses so many lines that the ultimatum is totally appropriate and I would have wanted the OP to stick to her guns if her father had ended up NOT divorcing her. Luckily that did not happen.
None of this is Real, and if So, then the the Future of Humanity is Doomed!
Op Not telling her Father, I have to Side Eye, but what was her Reason, for NOT Telling Her Mother, or Anyone Else?
It's Crazy how Nobody Notice, Op's Strange Behavior with the Stepmom. Story Didn't make me Feel anything for Op, ESH
Camera up kid. Get her on video. Get your mom to purchase two tell her what is going on at your dads and that you need proof. She’ll help you get the facts straight
Story one
She is not jealous of your fiancee his a man not her rival but if she could break your heart she be delighted I hope he not stupid enough and now your father has to realise you where telling him the truth I hope you showed your father, she has given you years of abuse
What was your father's first reaction to the texts and edited pictures she going to go to great lengths to destroy your wedding she going to storm your wedding so got security
He will probably reunite after your wedding she has nothing but malicious intentions towards you she extremely jealous of you and your mother other women are rivals to her
Beware of your step mother she manipulative
lol what is there to explain???
Do you not know how to use a recorder? AS proof for your dad. Don't be a door mate fight back. You let her get away with what she did for to long. Your as bad as her by not fighting bad.
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