The proper way to say it is "How the tables have turned." However there's a meme from The Office where the doofus of the show screwed up the saying to, "How the turntables." This actually makes more sense because even within the phrase the tables turned and changed places with turn.
@@Nowolf Yes Subaru seems to enjoy reading and reacting to comments from her fans which is nice. I love that about her! :) A lot of youtubers don't care about what their fans have to say. And it's nice to feel like I can help Subaru sometimes and make her smile or laugh. 😁
Eh. I'm on the fence. Subaru was legitimately trying to learn English phrases the whole stream. Throwing a meme at her with a wrong pronunciation would just confuse her later. People might think she is asking how to turn a table. I honestly believe if Reine didn't jump in to correct her, Kiara would have continued to beat the dead horse and possibly may not have told her the truth. It's kind of rude and given that Kiara has had to work hard to be trilingual, she should know better. Inb4 "LoL it's Jork".
@@CaptanF0rever This was my take on it as well. Yes yes Kiara was just teasing her and trying to get her to meme, but if you step back from that, Subaru is legitimately trying to get better at English to communicate with her English speaking audience and hololive members. Confusing her like this just impedes her learning.
Not necessarily an Office reference at this point. It was originally from the Office, but most people learn it from the internet via various sources. I myself thought it was a niche joke from a fandom I'm in until I found out it was from the Office. The question is, is Kiara American enough and old enough to have heard it from the Office itself or did she hear it second-hand like most of us?
@@jase276 It's not really claiming. It's like if you heard something from a news channel and told it to your friend. You're referencing the news channel and the news channel referenced something else, say, the government. The person isn't referencing the government there, at least not directly. If there's a meme I heard from Fandom B and it came from Fandom A, I'm referencing Fandom B. It originally came from A, and if I need to cite where it came from it would be A, but my association with it is B. It's the same for anything else. You could be referencing a book, but the original source is a play by Shakespeare. Or you could be referencing Shakespeare, but the original is from somewhere else. Maybe there's a better way to call what I'm talking about, but as far as I'm concerned that's referencing. It's not referencing in the same way as a research paper, but referencing nonetheless.
I always thought it was goofy how American comics imitate Japanese oji-sans speaking English with their accent, but Subaru kind of sounds like the impression lol.
Tfw Subaru remembered it as "stable" because Kiara said "turnstable" instead of "turntables". Forcefully shutting Reine down made it even harder to understand lol
Subaru: the exchange student Kiara: the one who wants to play a prank on the exchange student Reine: the straight-laced friend who doesn't get the prank and was just trying to be correct And it's funnier since not one of them is actually English or American.
I think it comes from the idea of losing a chess match, and then "turning the table" to switch sides. The phrase has become so cliche, that we sarcastically say "how the turntables" to both reference the situation, and poke fun at and refresh the original phrase. It's actually quite efficient as a high context joke.
It's from the office, and a common meme too. Reine knows it but she corrects it for Subaru because she is still learning English. Kiara understands and leaves it as just messing around.
@@oyoo3323 one of Kiara's favorite show is the office. Reine probably knows it from memes without knowing the actual reference, but she knows that there is a proper way to say it. But you're right, Kiara probably didn't think much of it when telling this phrase to Subaru, it's just a common phrase, but she does know where it comes from. But it could be confusing if someone who is still learning knows the slang first rather than the original, so reine correct it. Kiara understands that explaining would be hard, so she just leaves it as messing around. Well, the office is such a mainstream show so I'm not surprised if Reine knows it too, but she never talks about it so I don't know.
Kiara went full bird brain here It's pretty easy to explain this... The original saying is "oh how the tables have turned" as in how the roles have reversed in a situation But the meme saying is "oh how the turns tabled" reversing the words like the situation the phrase was for
She's most likely trying to do an Office reference. Sadly, her collab partners only know the line through memes. That is why she was so adamant when Reine is trying to give the correct line, but gave up halfway in because it's hard to explain a Western show reference using a language so far off from the original one.
It doesn't make sense without knowing the context of "How the turntables" because Michael Scott stops the sentence midway, realizing what he is saying is stupid. Of course the turntables have turned, that's what they do. That's why it's important to understand the original "the tables have turned" first, meaning your position at the table is now on the other side and the person at the head isn't anymore.
Kiara gave up on pushing the meme onto Subaru likely because 1. Subaru's understanding of the language isn't strong enough to get the explanation of the joke in the limited amount of time they between rounds and 2. She didn't want to impede on Subaru's English development and confuse her.
That is a 2 layer hard-to-explain joke there. Not only they are not English speakers, but they didn't watch The Office as well. Need to explain the saying "How the table have turned" is hard enough, then need to explain why it changed to "How the turn tables" is another level hard.
Make it extra hard when English is Kiara's weakest language. She needs a full-on Wiki page just to explain this joke and at that point, the meme would already lost its charm
A chicken, a turkey and a duck trying to communicate. Delish- I mean beautiful. Only heard of "how the tables have turned" tho. Is it that common to say it like "how the turntables", or whatever they were saying? I am super confused.
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Subaru's genuine effort to speak English and learn English phrases is so inspiring. Keep the turntables turning, Shuba!!!
Well she did study abroad in Canada so surely she knows some very basic English (on top of what is taught in Japanese schools).
The proper way to say it is "How the tables have turned." However there's a meme from The Office where the doofus of the show screwed up the saying to, "How the turntables." This actually makes more sense because even within the phrase the tables turned and changed places with turn.
Self explanatory, umu.
I was about to ask why Kiara said it that way, was really confused there for a sec. Thanks for the info!
@@CamKoudo its a common joke.
@@Ledbottom86 for western people, yes but not for everyone else
@@noah1488 she literally said she was messing around in the clip, calm down
Officer Subaru: "What does this phrase mean?"
Kiara with the handcuffs: "You're about to find out, Shuba."
Subaru: Quickly learned the phrase Shuba.
Sometime my wild imagination is a curse
Learning the hard way, I see
Kiara: "I have purposely trained her wrong, as a joke."
If you've got a table, I'll turn it
Turn that table, if you're so great.
If Subaru is Wimp Lo, does she have milk duds?
Kiara: Oh how the turntables!
Subaru: Oh how the rick rolling!
Me: Acceptable. Have a nice day!
Oh, how the rolls have ricked!
Subaru, the expression means: "the roles have reversed". Now the hunter is being hunted by the prey, for example.
Mantis stalks cicada unaware of the oriole behind
I appreciate that we can make comments like this aware of the high likelihood of subaru actually reading them...
@@Nowolf Yes Subaru seems to enjoy reading and reacting to comments from her fans which is nice. I love that about her! :)
A lot of youtubers don't care about what their fans have to say.
And it's nice to feel like I can help Subaru sometimes and make her smile or laugh. 😁
hmmm Reversal of Fortune
I like the idea of Kiara trying to instill office references into the JP girls as common slang 😂
Eh. I'm on the fence. Subaru was legitimately trying to learn English phrases the whole stream. Throwing a meme at her with a wrong pronunciation would just confuse her later. People might think she is asking how to turn a table. I honestly believe if Reine didn't jump in to correct her, Kiara would have continued to beat the dead horse and possibly may not have told her the truth. It's kind of rude and given that Kiara has had to work hard to be trilingual, she should know better. Inb4 "LoL it's Jork".
@@CaptanF0rever Ay dinkin flicka.
@@CaptanF0rever lmao subaru aint a baby come on now
@@CaptanF0rever This was my take on it as well. Yes yes Kiara was just teasing her and trying to get her to meme, but if you step back from that, Subaru is legitimately trying to get better at English to communicate with her English speaking audience and hololive members. Confusing her like this just impedes her learning.
No one’s going to mention how Reine casually complements her own work xD
Imagine after 1 year of regular interacting with the EN and ID girls, Subaru's English improved tremendously. That will truly be a bittersweet day.
Subaru's English is so cute
All aspects of Subaru are cute. :)
Name one thing that is Subaru related and isn't cute. You can't. 😌
@@vulcanh254 you've won this round, good sir.
@@vulcanh254 spittin facts
Oh how the turns have tabled.
Ah yes. The wise words of the greatest philosophers of our time: Michael Scott.
0:56
Kiara: oh how the turntables
Subaru: oh how the prince rolling
she said "please slowly", but i want to imagine that her short term memory just butchered it into the masterpiece that is prince rolling
built different
Kiara forcing the office reference and just gave up on it either because its difficult or just a pity to subaru lol
Not necessarily an Office reference at this point. It was originally from the Office, but most people learn it from the internet via various sources. I myself thought it was a niche joke from a fandom I'm in until I found out it was from the Office. The question is, is Kiara American enough and old enough to have heard it from the Office itself or did she hear it second-hand like most of us?
@@moondust2365
The Office is actually one of her favorite shows, she used to binge watch it on Netflix before it was taken off.
@@moondust2365 If it came from the Office, it's an Office reference. You can't just claim something that's already been claimed
@@jase276 It's not really claiming. It's like if you heard something from a news channel and told it to your friend. You're referencing the news channel and the news channel referenced something else, say, the government. The person isn't referencing the government there, at least not directly.
If there's a meme I heard from Fandom B and it came from Fandom A, I'm referencing Fandom B. It originally came from A, and if I need to cite where it came from it would be A, but my association with it is B. It's the same for anything else. You could be referencing a book, but the original source is a play by Shakespeare. Or you could be referencing Shakespeare, but the original is from somewhere else.
Maybe there's a better way to call what I'm talking about, but as far as I'm concerned that's referencing. It's not referencing in the same way as a research paper, but referencing nonetheless.
@@moondust2365 can confirm, Kiara was in The Office rabbit hole long enough to properly tell anyone who asks that the "turntables" originated from it.
0:09 Reine casually complimenting her own drawing
*Obama medal meme*
I love when Subaru speaks English. Her accent is just too cute!
I always thought it was goofy how American comics imitate Japanese oji-sans speaking English with their accent, but Subaru kind of sounds like the impression lol.
Subaru's hard work at learning eglish has really paid off.
Tfw Subaru remembered it as "stable" because Kiara said "turnstable" instead of "turntables". Forcefully shutting Reine down made it even harder to understand lol
A foreigner teaching the JP girls shitty English...Coco would be either be proud or furious
Good passion Shuba English. I approb.
Subaru: the exchange student
Kiara: the one who wants to play a prank on the exchange student
Reine: the straight-laced friend who doesn't get the prank and was just trying to be correct
And it's funnier since not one of them is actually English or American.
Her english is getting very good! She's improving!
I'm so early Hope has not yet descended to Earth.
Also, nice - and yabai - to see that Subaru learned another memetic phrase.
The earth has been destroyed by space and then revived by mother nature. A lot happened today so far.
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Kiara trying to teach the meme version instead of the actual phrase XD
now we just gotta get subaru to watch the community japanese dub
Kiara No ! You must teach them the Actual phrase first !
Love Ollie just saying how the turn tables at the very end
Shout out to the office reaching hololive
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I think it comes from the idea of losing a chess match, and then "turning the table" to switch sides. The phrase has become so cliche, that we sarcastically say "how the turntables" to both reference the situation, and poke fun at and refresh the original phrase. It's actually quite efficient as a high context joke.
Excellent, Subaru
Kiara really be throwing them into the deep end
The japanese equivalent would be 「形勢が逆転する」"the situation is reversed”
That captures the basic meaning, but none of the sense of irony.
I'm more of a "Let's put the table over the cards" but sure, has a nice ring to it.
I really wanna to say "it's flipping the situation from worse to good or vice versa"
did Kiara legit thought the meme was the right one?
At first I wasn't sure if Kiara was trolling or if she actually thought that "how the turntables" was the actual saying.
It's from the office, and a common meme too. Reine knows it but she corrects it for Subaru because she is still learning English. Kiara understands and leaves it as just messing around.
@@oyoo3323 one of Kiara's favorite show is the office. Reine probably knows it from memes without knowing the actual reference, but she knows that there is a proper way to say it. But you're right, Kiara probably didn't think much of it when telling this phrase to Subaru, it's just a common phrase, but she does know where it comes from. But it could be confusing if someone who is still learning knows the slang first rather than the original, so reine correct it. Kiara understands that explaining would be hard, so she just leaves it as messing around.
Well, the office is such a mainstream show so I'm not surprised if Reine knows it too, but she never talks about it so I don't know.
the "oh how the turntables" actually came from The Office first cuz michael effed up the phrase "oh how the tables have turned" lollll
Kiara went full bird brain here
It's pretty easy to explain this...
The original saying is "oh how the tables have turned" as in how the roles have reversed in a situation
But the meme saying is "oh how the turns tabled" reversing the words like the situation the phrase was for
now do it in Japanese
@@epistemophobia69 if i spoke japanese i would, i doubt its has impossibly hard to explain it in japanese
confusing english because people are bad at it makes it more confusing.
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Now do it in two different languages that aren’t your own. Kiara’s mother language isn’t even English and it isn’t Japanese
She's most likely trying to do an Office reference. Sadly, her collab partners only know the line through memes. That is why she was so adamant when Reine is trying to give the correct line, but gave up halfway in because it's hard to explain a Western show reference using a language so far off from the original one.
And now we need to teach them the correct order for that phrase.
Subaru's english is so damn cute lmao
We purposely taught her wrong, as a joke.
Kiara should take less from The Office and more from Archer with "Idioms, right, got it."
Every time I question some of the girls, they pull these top quality memes and I'm like "how could I doubt their power?".
When Reine knows English better than Kiara in phrases... xD
When Kiara started going "NO! NO! NO! NO!", I thought that she was Pekora.
She was being a comedian in that moment, so that wasn't an inaccurate thought 😁
How the tables turn.
"How the turn tables."
Understandable.
It doesn't make sense without knowing the context of "How the turntables" because Michael Scott stops the sentence midway, realizing what he is saying is stupid. Of course the turntables have turned, that's what they do. That's why it's important to understand the original "the tables have turned" first, meaning your position at the table is now on the other side and the person at the head isn't anymore.
kiara is michael scott confirmed
Confused
Confuse
Confusion
Oh how the lazy Susans
Shuba wants to be handcuffed by Kiara.
Kiara tries so hard to live according to Kung Pow.
hey subaru if you see this
the original is "how the table turns" and the meme version is "how the turntables"
it means the hunter has become the prey
The original saying is "oh how the tables have turned"
She mean "Oh how the table's turn"? XD
turnstable is a meme from the office i believe
its the office meme dude.
just type in youtube search: "how the turntables" first video.
Kiara gave up on pushing the meme onto Subaru likely because 1. Subaru's understanding of the language isn't strong enough to get the explanation of the joke in the limited amount of time they between rounds and 2. She didn't want to impede on Subaru's English development and confuse her.
@@timepatroltrunks8276 and 3. Reine was right.
That is a 2 layer hard-to-explain joke there. Not only they are not English speakers, but they didn't watch The Office as well. Need to explain the saying "How the table have turned" is hard enough, then need to explain why it changed to "How the turn tables" is another level hard.
Make it extra hard when English is Kiara's weakest language. She needs a full-on Wiki page just to explain this joke and at that point, the meme would already lost its charm
To make their brains explode, use "the shoe is on the other foot now"
'How the turntable' can be loosely closely translated and 'nanto no gyakuten'
lol kiara was close.
Let's consult Kiara about German next time xD
Kiara was skipping straight to the advanced English.
I feel like this is a phrase that doesn't even make sense in english anymore... must be even harder to translate
The phrase is normally "the tables have turned" . She could have explained it like 2ith uno cards with the reverse
Why did everyone use "well well well how the turn tables" ffs, I feel so stupid lmao
I was wondering how she was going to explain a meme from the office based on a saying in english, and the answer is she didn't.
A chicken, a turkey and a duck trying to communicate. Delish- I mean beautiful.
Only heard of "how the tables have turned" tho. Is it that common to say it like "how the turntables", or whatever they were saying? I am super confused.
Aw not many people get the joke..even in comment section
Similar to "how the turns have tided". Or would it be "how the turned have tides"?
wtf are you on about
In japanese its gyaku ni.. right?
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Smh Kiara at it again
Kiara purposefully teaching her wrong - I like it!
And honestly it wouldn't even be a hindrance to her, this flub is well known by now.
what does it mean in japanese?
"chabudai gaeshi"
-don't trust me, i'm evil~
Why didn’t she just say “oh how the tables have turned”
No Kiara, it's "Oh how the tables have turned"
The Oozora Police will have you arrested for butchering that expression
Could've just said the situation got backfired or went 180° but I understand how Kiara is struggling translating English to Japanese
I always wondered why people say 'turntables' instead of 'tables have turned'
I thouht it was "oh how the tables turned"???
That is the original phrase, but there's a meme version that comes from The Office which is "Oh how the turn tables."
Subaru's English is so cute