Honestly I wish conventions had professional item checkers who looks over gifts streamers receive to check them for trackers. I feel like that should be a standard.
Unfortunately this this never gonna be the reality so long as cons have a profit first mindset. There's no profit in the safety of the livers or the attendees. At least not beyond the immediate venue. So once there's a gift exchange or an item handoff, so long as its not a bomb... they don't care.
Way to freaking expensive and time consuming. It's also not the cons responsibility. They will 'protect' you from immediate dangers, but they aren't doing anti-subterfuge. If everybody received just 20 gifts, and there are let's say only 20 streamers. That's still 400 items, each taking a minute to scan properly. That's almost 7 hours of a person checking items. Now imagine 100 streamers getting 20+ gifts.
He clearly wasn't thinking. This is a mental illness, and that person needs medication and physiological treatment because there's clearly a chemical imbalance in his brain. Do you shit on a person that has Aspergers every time they swear? Let's try to help this poor bastards back to a normal life and frame of mind. We should be pitying the ill (physically or mentally ill), wishing evil on them does nothing. Everyone with half a brain cell knows it's wrong, you contribute nothing by stating the obvious in a youtube video.
Lets not pretend this woman didnt grow this big by pretending and feeding into such entitlement. Now shes paying the price for getting rich off such scummy tactics
@feministpicnicfallsapartaf3644 It's not like she was any different from other content creators with acting close to fans. From what I've seen from clips and stuff, I only saw the normal kind of fan interaction you would expect from someone with a bit of a sassyness.
@@feministpicnicfallsapartaf3644bait used to be believable. But if you truly believe what you said then it seems the core of the issue is she got rich and you didnt.
Thanks for including that bit at the end, but goddamn it already sucked knowing she would likely have to move, but hearing that they built their house *and* she doesn't even live alone makes it so much worse (I didn't know either of these beforehand). I don't even want to think what I would do in this situation, I feel so abd for her and her mom.
I hope that on top of criminal sentencing they can hold the guy liable to pay some sort of restitution for losing the house, mental suffering and perhaps needing additional security measures going forward.
That would be ideal, but I think she'll have to dox herself further if she's going to pursue this legally. Probably similar to the situation with IronMouse when someone copyright striked her channel, and just chose to not defend against the strike legally due to her having to reveal her identity. I'm not an expert with the legal system tho, so I could be wrong.
This is probably the saddest thing I've seen this year. It sucks so much that you have to give up so much (even of your future happiness) just because of one person.
this whole thing has been so fucking nuts. so stupid anyone thought this behavior was ok enough to do this. camimi doesnt deserve it. she's been so from the heart from the start
It's an absolute Travis do something like this had to happen. This is going to be the type of thing that will always stick with her. Because of this one person's selfish desires, he has basically ruined her life. There is no situation that anyone should ever have to go through this and you can tell it breaks her heart with everything that she feels like she has to do to stay safe going forward. I said this in one of the other clip videos but I hope she has a good circle of friends that support her through this tough time because she's absolutely going to need it. I wish for nothing but good things for her going forward. This is coming from someone who doesn't even watch her content, but has empathy for her as a fellow person. To the person that ruined her life, there's a special place in hell for you.
All it takes is one person to ruin everything. Why don't people learn? I've seen that happen time and again throughout my life and I'm only 20 years old. Also, why do people think doing shit like this is genuinely okay? Like, seriously?
all this because of one demented jagoff who had to be a douchebag. have to uproot an entire household for safety. I feel so much for her and her family. I just hope they can find a good, safe, new home they can make their own.
Unironically this dude probably ruined it for more than just Camila. EVERY indie has it in their mind now a fan who handed them or sent something could show up at their door. What use to be a very minimal back of the mind once in a while thought has come to the foreground. All it took was 1 schizo to ruin it for literally everyone.
It's terrifying to think that this could happen to any of us without warning. As if life isn't challenging enough, we still have to deal with people like this.
@@deputyhobbs9683 Ty man. People like him is sad. They always want reactions from stranger on the Internet cause nobody care them irl. Btw have a nice day!
there should be better gift checks at conventions. sucks this happens she probably wont receive gifts anymore but its probably for the best or irl meets.. damn why people gotta be like that?
Couldn't camila accept gifts still if she opened up a p.o. box to send gifts? That way she could get someone to pick up and inspect the gifts for anything dodgy and then send them to camila.
Why can't they be like normal fans? Thanks for ruining it for the rest of us normal fans. Also, does this mean no paper gifts? Because I had a fun idea for one. Guess I can't now, because someone just had to think they were special.
@@Mosamaniabloody hell, I knew that someone tried to break in but putting a tracker is just pure mental. Isn't that also turbo illegal, the tracker thing I mean
Before y'all reply to me again, I specifically asked for the tracker thing. Trespassing being illegal is common sense thus I didn't ask about it. Y'all need to read properly
I hope she doesn't move, because it just gives people more reasons to try and dox her, because it actually has a large negative impact. If anything i hope she just gets a high security fence or something. Although i just remembered swatting is a thing, so I'm not sure if there is really anything she can do
Basically somebody sent her a gift and put a tracker on the package. Then got her location and tried to break in I guess (Not sure if that was the case but there is a clip of her hearing a banging noise during stream) so she called the cops and they caught them
@@codyxmas3723 Yeah she even said that dude was carrying a sledgehammer or something and tried to get in through her garage. Absolute wild stuff. But luckily that dude is arrested now and she's doing fine. But then again it's pretty traumatic. This one dude just had to ruin things for everyone else
@ that’s absolutely wild. Crazy to go through with something like that and not have the thought process once of “damn what the fuck am I doing” weird ass people like that gross.
@@SmolMugii It’s crazy how far the positive feedback loop of delusion is. Each step was probably justified in their mind one after the other, the thing you will notice with these types as how genuinely baffled and confused they are to be rejected and or prosecuted for it. This is why it tends to turn into hate stalking which could lead to worse. Self-Inflected delusion is one of the most dangerous states of minds one can find themselves in, and it is genuinely difficult to snap out of it, doesn’t mean they don’t deserve a lengthy prison sentence though, because they still can tell right from wrong even if they convinced themselves that they are not in the wrong.
Because there can be many different kinds of trackers. It sounds like this guy used an airtag, but the next one might use something else. Someone smart enough might be able to build something from scratch. Then figure that you have to spend the time with every potential gift, and the whole process souring your feelings. No longer just joy at getting something, but suspicion and exhaustion at if you can trust and test
Nobody nose, I mean, stalkers and shidd.... it's kinda on the job application of being famous soooo, wherever she moves to taz prolly gonna happen too. I'd double down if I was her.
I think she's overreacting in a lot of ways, but completely understandably. I think she'll slowly relax and be open to doing a lot of things once again, such as meet and greets. She'll probably also accept gifts, but only certain types. Things like letters, paper crafts, and the like that have no chance of having trackers on them. The worst part is her having to move houses, given they built that home. I kinda wish she would stay in one place, though. I wish she wouldn't move. Stay strapped and put in some security measures. I feel like those things combined would make her comfortable staying there.
She's not overreacting. Her life and mental wellbeing were compromised. Look at what has been continually happening to Keekihime. Its a nightmare, and nobody ever does anything until it's too late, and you have to live with these parasites for your whole life, waiting for them to knock on your door at night your whole life. *It would have been incredibly easy for him to attack her*
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Not a single ounce of overreaction. That situation is scary as hell
I don't know man, lots of people know where streamers live, but that wouldn't be a reason for everyone to move once people find out. Specially if people know her face anyway
I don't think it's about someone knowing where she lived per se, but more so that the place doesn't feel safe after they actually suffered from an attempted break in. Our percieved safety is very paper thin, and it sounds like she hasn't been able to relax since it happened, so the only way to fix that is to move house and get away from the traumatic event
Honestly I wish conventions had professional item checkers who looks over gifts streamers receive to check them for trackers. I feel like that should be a standard.
True, or when streamers do PO Boxes
Unfortunately this this never gonna be the reality so long as cons have a profit first mindset. There's no profit in the safety of the livers or the attendees.
At least not beyond the immediate venue. So once there's a gift exchange or an item handoff, so long as its not a bomb... they don't care.
Cons do not have those kinds of resources.
True
Way to freaking expensive and time consuming. It's also not the cons responsibility. They will 'protect' you from immediate dangers, but they aren't doing anti-subterfuge.
If everybody received just 20 gifts, and there are let's say only 20 streamers. That's still 400 items, each taking a minute to scan properly. That's almost 7 hours of a person checking items.
Now imagine 100 streamers getting 20+ gifts.
This is the worst thing someone in our community did cause like why does he think he has the entitlement to do this shit?
He clearly wasn't thinking. This is a mental illness, and that person needs medication and physiological treatment because there's clearly a chemical imbalance in his brain.
Do you shit on a person that has Aspergers every time they swear? Let's try to help this poor bastards back to a normal life and frame of mind. We should be pitying the ill (physically or mentally ill), wishing evil on them does nothing.
Everyone with half a brain cell knows it's wrong, you contribute nothing by stating the obvious in a youtube video.
Lets not pretend this woman didnt grow this big by pretending and feeding into such entitlement. Now shes paying the price for getting rich off such scummy tactics
@@feministpicnicfallsapartaf3644Victim blaming is so cool.
@feministpicnicfallsapartaf3644 It's not like she was any different from other content creators with acting close to fans. From what I've seen from clips and stuff, I only saw the normal kind of fan interaction you would expect from someone with a bit of a sassyness.
@@feministpicnicfallsapartaf3644bait used to be believable. But if you truly believe what you said then it seems the core of the issue is she got rich and you didnt.
Thanks for including that bit at the end, but goddamn it already sucked knowing she would likely have to move, but hearing that they built their house *and* she doesn't even live alone makes it so much worse (I didn't know either of these beforehand). I don't even want to think what I would do in this situation, I feel so abd for her and her mom.
Poor Camila. I hope Evil gives her lots of virtual hugs to make her feel better.
I hope that on top of criminal sentencing they can hold the guy liable to pay some sort of restitution for losing the house, mental suffering and perhaps needing additional security measures going forward.
+ I hope the guy would stay in jail for at least 2 years
That would be ideal, but I think she'll have to dox herself further if she's going to pursue this legally. Probably similar to the situation with IronMouse when someone copyright striked her channel, and just chose to not defend against the strike legally due to her having to reveal her identity. I'm not an expert with the legal system tho, so I could be wrong.
It takes a single individual to ruin someone’s life. Please be safe everyone!
This is probably the saddest thing I've seen this year. It sucks so much that you have to give up so much (even of your future happiness) just because of one person.
this whole thing has been so fucking nuts. so stupid anyone thought this behavior was ok enough to do this. camimi doesnt deserve it. she's been so from the heart from the start
People like that guy that broke into her house do it because they genuinely believe Camilla loves them. They're fucked up people.
This video almost made me cry until the tomato soup ad, thanks for lifting camilia's mood
SunSpotzz got that unintentionally funny rizz, nothing is more powerful than that
Hope camimi can get through this tough time
Shoutout to that tomato soup ad for making her laugh again despite it all, though
Knowing how Police only act on Stalkers when its too late im surprised he is even in jail, i hope she stays safe and that never happens again
Menacing, breaking and entering, if he had a weapon on him it's premeditated assault. That's definitely jail worthy.
Yeah, that's not just stalking.
It was, in fact, too late.
He didn't just stalk her, he broke into her house that's why he's in jail.
@@cloudsteele1989 she said he had a sledge hammer
SunSpotzz is a real one for that
She might not be the only one who do this now. Potentially everybody else in her circle would take measures to keep themselves safe.
I know if I were a vtuber who recently received gifts I'd be inspecting all of them that's for sure
One silver lining, I guess.
I wish her strength and courage to not allow herself to be forced into being passive
and a steady aim if he comes back
It's an absolute Travis do something like this had to happen. This is going to be the type of thing that will always stick with her. Because of this one person's selfish desires, he has basically ruined her life. There is no situation that anyone should ever have to go through this and you can tell it breaks her heart with everything that she feels like she has to do to stay safe going forward.
I said this in one of the other clip videos but I hope she has a good circle of friends that support her through this tough time because she's absolutely going to need it. I wish for nothing but good things for her going forward. This is coming from someone who doesn't even watch her content, but has empathy for her as a fellow person.
To the person that ruined her life, there's a special place in hell for you.
I can't imagine how stress I would be after someone uses a sledgehammer on my property
I feel so bad for her and so mad at this wierdo.
such a good "friend" that lunatic is, huh?
Poor, Camila. 😢❤
All it takes is one person to ruin everything. Why don't people learn? I've seen that happen time and again throughout my life and I'm only 20 years old. Also, why do people think doing shit like this is genuinely okay? Like, seriously?
all this because of one demented jagoff who had to be a douchebag. have to uproot an entire household for safety. I feel so much for her and her family. I just hope they can find a good, safe, new home they can make their own.
Nobody deserves this. I'm glad She and her family are safe.
Unironically this dude probably ruined it for more than just Camila.
EVERY indie has it in their mind now a fan who handed them or sent something could show up at their door.
What use to be a very minimal back of the mind once in a while thought has come to the foreground.
All it took was 1 schizo to ruin it for literally everyone.
y'all know that image of a horse on the beach staring into the horizon with a long face and the text "MAN" in the sky?
I really wish that goofy sub alert wasn't on, but it is also lightening the mood.
It's terrifying to think that this could happen to any of us without warning. As if life isn't challenging enough, we still have to deal with people like this.
Nobody knows you little bro
@@albiceleste101i know him
Me too
@@albiceleste101 Who are you?
@@deputyhobbs9683 Ty man. People like him is sad. They always want reactions from stranger on the Internet cause nobody care them irl.
Btw have a nice day!
I couldn’t have handled the sadness if it weren’t for the frequent dog appearances and the tomato soup ad guy it was the comedic relief we all needed
tomato soup ad, i'm fucking dying of laughter LMFAO
Remember people
There's always psychos out there
And they aren't going to change, so be safe
there should be better gift checks at conventions. sucks this happens
she probably wont receive gifts anymore but its probably for the best
or irl meets.. damn why people gotta be like that?
tomato soup ad >:(
Don't cry 😭
Sadly, Twitch doesn't attract the best of us
Goddamn, I can't watch these videos, I'll just read the transcripts.
Vedal will sponsore to build a bunker for her now
Vedal will ask Ellie to build a second Neurodog just so Camimi has Eliv as her guard dog
Gated communities exist for a reason.
poor camimi ;-;
BRO IM KRILLINGMYSELF THISSISSOSADD FTHEGUYFTHEGUYFTHEGUY 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Couldn't camila accept gifts still if she opened up a p.o. box to send gifts? That way she could get someone to pick up and inspect the gifts for anything dodgy and then send them to camila.
you can use a website that ppl buy things on and they are sent to a po box, that way the buyers never actually touch the items that are sent
Why doesn’t she live in a gated community
Sadge
Why can't they be like normal fans? Thanks for ruining it for the rest of us normal fans. Also, does this mean no paper gifts? Because I had a fun idea for one. Guess I can't now, because someone just had to think they were special.
context?
Stalker tried to break in her house
Stalker planted a tracker in a gift in a convention and used to stalk her and then tried to break into her house at night.
@@Mosamaniabloody hell, I knew that someone tried to break in but putting a tracker is just pure mental. Isn't that also turbo illegal, the tracker thing I mean
@ the whole fucking thing is illegal from start to finish.
Before y'all reply to me again, I specifically asked for the tracker thing. Trespassing being illegal is common sense thus I didn't ask about it. Y'all need to read properly
What happened? Context?
Stalker tried to break into her house.
A stalker tried to break into her house on-stream. Luckily, he was caught and arrested
By adding a tracker in a gift, I may add.
Do they know the weirdos name??
If they got arrested, then everyone kinda knows their name from the police report.
I read the report and his name was listed as M.C hammer.
I hope she doesn't move, because it just gives people more reasons to try and dox her, because it actually has a large negative impact. If anything i hope she just gets a high security fence or something. Although i just remembered swatting is a thing, so I'm not sure if there is really anything she can do
I think it's better that she feels safe in her own home, this doesn't seem like something that would happen more than once.
Wtf happened?
Basically somebody sent her a gift and put a tracker on the package. Then got her location and tried to break in I guess (Not sure if that was the case but there is a clip of her hearing a banging noise during stream) so she called the cops and they caught them
@@Senpai_o3o jesus christ
@@codyxmas3723 Yeah she even said that dude was carrying a sledgehammer or something and tried to get in through her garage. Absolute wild stuff. But luckily that dude is arrested now and she's doing fine. But then again it's pretty traumatic. This one dude just had to ruin things for everyone else
Welcome to my world Camila, it gets better with time...
Still cant use headphones, but you get use to it :)
At first I thought it's related to elections.
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what hap
Stalker planted a tracker into a gift and then used to track her and stalk her and then tried to break into her home with a sledgehammer at night.
@ that’s absolutely wild. Crazy to go through with something like that and not have the thought process once of “damn what the fuck am I doing” weird ass people like that gross.
@@SmolMugii It’s crazy how far the positive feedback loop of delusion is. Each step was probably justified in their mind one after the other, the thing you will notice with these types as how genuinely baffled and confused they are to be rejected and or prosecuted for it. This is why it tends to turn into hate stalking which could lead to worse.
Self-Inflected delusion is one of the most dangerous states of minds one can find themselves in, and it is genuinely difficult to snap out of it, doesn’t mean they don’t deserve a lengthy prison sentence though, because they still can tell right from wrong even if they convinced themselves that they are not in the wrong.
Kinda surprised her location isn't all over the internet already
since she can scan for tracker on her own as she said, why they don't scan every gift before reciving it?
Are you going to slash open a plushy or smash a clay gift?
She could have a po box in another state that she travels to once a month. But that would be a pain.
Because there can be many different kinds of trackers. It sounds like this guy used an airtag, but the next one might use something else. Someone smart enough might be able to build something from scratch.
Then figure that you have to spend the time with every potential gift, and the whole process souring your feelings. No longer just joy at getting something, but suspicion and exhaustion at if you can trust and test
@@rich1051414 and they still gonna end up in her house.
Nobody nose, I mean, stalkers and shidd.... it's kinda on the job application of being famous soooo, wherever she moves to taz prolly gonna happen too. I'd double down if I was her.
I think she's overreacting in a lot of ways, but completely understandably. I think she'll slowly relax and be open to doing a lot of things once again, such as meet and greets. She'll probably also accept gifts, but only certain types. Things like letters, paper crafts, and the like that have no chance of having trackers on them.
The worst part is her having to move houses, given they built that home. I kinda wish she would stay in one place, though. I wish she wouldn't move. Stay strapped and put in some security measures. I feel like those things combined would make her comfortable staying there.
Naw, I would never feel safe knowing a potentially drugged out stalker with a weapon knows where I live.
@@rich1051414 If Castle Doctrine is in effect and he tries it again, that drugged out stalker won't bother her (or anyone else) ever again.
She's not overreacting. Her life and mental wellbeing were compromised. Look at what has been continually happening to Keekihime. Its a nightmare, and nobody ever does anything until it's too late, and you have to live with these parasites for your whole life, waiting for them to knock on your door at night your whole life. *It would have been incredibly easy for him to attack her*
Not a single ounce of overreaction. That situation is scary as hell
It just makes sense for her to not ever want to risk it again. Nobody wants to live in fear of assault.
I don't know man, lots of people know where streamers live, but that wouldn't be a reason for everyone to move once people find out. Specially if people know her face anyway
Bru.. He attempted to enter her house... It's not safe..
Attempted breaking and entering. And damaging the house the community paid for and the information exposed.
I don't think it's about someone knowing where she lived per se, but more so that the place doesn't feel safe after they actually suffered from an attempted break in. Our percieved safety is very paper thin, and it sounds like she hasn't been able to relax since it happened, so the only way to fix that is to move house and get away from the traumatic event
Deserved LULE
Honestly, when I see these kinds of comments, I laugh.
Because I know that no matter how low my life can be, I will always be better than them
man you must be miserable
Your comment look so stuuuuupid haiiiiyaaaa
Bait used to be believable
Nobody cares 🦍🦍🦍
you are stupid, you just dont do shit like that.
Bait used to be believable
well, when it comes to YOU sure. But that much is obvious.
@pragmaticpundit7703 yes when it comes to me, the only level headed and reasonable person and not you path etic parasocial 🤡
You still care to reply so...
Good job with your obvious bait!