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As a women, I'm tired of media treating men as crap. They deserved to be loved and treated like human beings. Also a lot of the recent media from Disney has HORRIBLE writing for all of their characters.
The female protagonists of movies and TV series today are mostly toxic and annoying. Nowdays the misandry rules, specially in usa, is sad 😔 (Sorry for My English) 😕
@@joshycash3936 It's ok. But you're right, many of the female protagonists are just that, toxic female characters who just mean and nasty people, but are called strong and independent women by a bunch of fools. And it is sad.
@@chubbyninja89 I agree I'm a girl as well and it's honestly just horrible because females that are portrayed as "strong" are extremely unlikable and are badly written too! This doesn't empower anyone Only puts men down and to be honest I feel like I have received my fair share of hate too because females are so misrepresented by media portraying them so toxically It's scary Literally all media needs is to treat its characters like people no matter the gender and boom! A hit!
What is also lost in this issue is that young girls also need flawed heroes to look up to. Female "heroes" are portrayed as having no major flaws, and if they have a flaw it's actually a positive thing that people around them just don't understand. Boys and girls need to see flawed heroes who push through adversity and overcome challenges. Not just show up and win. Unfortunately it has gone in opposing directions. Female characters are often perfect and male characters often always wrong. Outside of the effect this has on young viewers, it makes for boring films/tv/games.
It also can negatively go in the opposite direction, by taking once exciting, larger than life characters and make them flawed for the sake of being flawed. For example look at current day Lara Croft who has largely lost what once made her so appealing, and i'm not just talking about her sex appeal.
@@charmingpeasant9834 Really? I've never played the old Tomb Raider games but the new Lara Croft is ridiculously beautiful and smoking hot to be honest.
Also there is always a female character in most Male characters and is given special screen time. Whereas in a woman lead character every Men are either useless or dumb.
@@kaih_the_viewer The fanbase is the audience?? I think the comment above is talking about the creators hating their audience not the audience hating themselves
western media companies keep hiring women and so called "male feminists" as writers who hate men and want to see them degraded. Why that is or why they feel that way I'm not sure but they keep hiring them to write and the whole thing is so obvious. Neil Druckmann is still a creative director at Naughty Dog. smh.
I'm so glad this is being said. As a female myself, I hate seeing how degraded men in media has become. I grew up with great male characters and female characters. The diversity that we used to have was amazing and showed that you could have both male and female representation without any agenda behind it.
And remember when " we all come from Africa, race is a stupid concept" was the message and we thought that judging people based on the content of their character rather than their immutable traits was a good idea? Since then, we made "progress"... I think that how they call it...
I’m a woman. And I love seeing strong male role models. I can relate to them regards gender. You don’t have to only like female leads as role models if you are a girl yourself. This is why I loved ben 10 growing up and more male recommended audiences. Because usually the stories and characters were better and more mature. I was a bit of a Tomboy but loved girly stuff as well. I never had a mindset of ew men. Which thanks to my family, they raised me right.
Bam! In my opinion your comment hits several nails square on the head. Especially with regards to IDENTIFICATION. What I mean is the volitive choice a person makes to align with the norms, values and behaviour of another one. As a boy, I grew up in the '80s and back then we had not quantity but at least quality on the 'strong female character' department (before they were called like that)... and I could identify with all of them, regardless of gender just like you. Princess Leia. Ellen Ripley. Sarah Connor. These were well written characters (back then) that I could understand and see as a role model because of their norms, values and behaviour, not their gender. That's actually what role models are about, ain't it? That said, I also think a very important question to ask is: what is the definition of STRONG men actually? One of the movies that really made an impact on me was 'Schindler's List', not because of the topic it displayed but the arc of Oskar Schindler (which Liam Neeson portrayed so masterfully): a man who had put himself atop the ladder of his world, saw the injustice of it and had the will and guts to act upon his change of heart, against much larger odds. That takes both strength and courage. His superpowers? Compassion and cunning. This character showed young me that 'with great power comes great responsibility' towards others, with real-world actions instead of spidey-senses. What I'm saying is, in an avalanche of super-powered characters in media, we maybe need more of these kind of role-models: the simple people that rise to a challenge and GROW throughout the process, showing us how to do it and why it is important to act upon it. So we can identify with their norms, values and behaviour, regardless of gender. My 2 cents.
@@code066funkinbird3 The sigma male meme is quite cringe to be honest. But if i look at it from a personal view, I think it captures the feeling of longing, loneliness, sadness etc. But they look strong or are willing to live. The only part i find cringe is people wanting to be Patrick Baitman. A psycho who kills people, or so we think. But I think most people have re branded his image to feel from a semi relatable stand point. Like his expressions, or adding him to POV situations as if trying to capture a metaphoric feeling us humans go through.
Great example of good female lead is Lara Croft Tomb Rider, the first remake of 2013 Tomb Rider is really good capturing Lara's journey as a female character overcoming boundaries, Lara's character still baddass and cool on par with any other male lead character/hero without sacrificing her feminism and looks
Unfortunately people who make media these days cant understand that you dont have to see someone exactly like you to relate to them, hell i doubt these people have actually spoken to a real.human outside of hollywood, i have female and gay friends who love the classic 90s xmen show and comics but they wanna change everyone into what THEY believe is what real people are. And sadly theyll just keep failing because they refuse to see past their own ignorance
Coming from a girl, I'm beyond happy and grateful that you made this video. I'm tired of seeing men being degraded. Strong men are what we need to have a functioning society. Feminists need to shut up and let men have their rightful place in the media.
Glad to hear your reply. It's in womens bye interest to have strong men. More women need to speak up, because nobody's listening to men right now. Or what kind of men will there be for women to pair up with one day?
@@nurseshark02 That's why they are called "modern feminists" or feminazis in some circles. They took the original concept of what their idea meant and twisted it into a begrudged misandry spewing and self-entitled group that wants equality when it fits them. They are a small yet really fucking loud. Even some original feminists don't like the 3rd and up and coming 4th wave of feminists. Western women have all the same rights as men along with all their own rights of being born a woman. Yet they keep saying they don't have anything! They have power and it seems they can't keep a lid on their mess as they are in-fighting on who is more marginalized in their group (ironic if you ask me) Men and women can't be equal for many reasons, we can have equal opportunities but not equal outcomes as there is an inherent difference between men and women, and those differences make up for what each side lacks.
It’s probably why so many guys turn towards anime and manga and media of the such. It actually creates a male character that they can relate to and make the feel powerful and strong in places where most media fail to provide.
I would also like to add that manga and anime has a lot of variety in the form of different types of stories that tend to different demographics, from comedy and slice-of-life to drama, crime, scifi, fantasy and a whole slew of other things. In the meantime western media seem hung up on the idea that one story should cater to everyone, and they concequently try to shoehorn _ALL_ the things into everything they make, slap on a "diversity and inclusivity" label and call it a day, with the end result being a mess that very few people likes. Then they attack their audience when things fail, and call them the negative buzzwords of the day before repeating the same mistake. In the meantime, if a manga doesn't succeed it gets booted out, and the creator have to go back to the drawing board (ha) and try again.
its funny when i see people hating on anime and manga so much. They can keep their American Netflix shows that shoe horn politcs and make men always useless. Ill stick with the medium that acutally has men being badass and even manages to have strong female characters without making the males impotent lol.
Most Anime doesn't tell stories based on agenda narratives most of the time. its just stories with good characters both male and female. And it is why i prefer it now to most other entertainment media because it the same as it mostly always was.
I too thought the same. I'm just 16 years old and I started writing stories when 15 on wattpad. I could do more better than them despite all are being a fanfiction and one single fantasy book. In addition, I'm working as a temporary writer on wattpad. Surprise. I also don't understand why these writer make the woman protagonist to be overpower like that. And men treated like trash... do they know what are the consequences of this? Men are truly strong and that is a fact. Women too are strong but I show it in different way. When I continue watching this. He's right. Asian is more better than Western. I prefer strong men characters and.. women as well but they must show their respect and great motivation. I also love Demon Slayer!!
The female protagonists of movies and TV series today are mostly toxic and annoying. Nowdays the misandry rules, specially in usa, is sad 😔 (Sorry for My English)
its rlly frustarting, as a girl, to like male characters or criticise a female character and someone just says "oh u just have internalised misogyny" like apparently even criticising a female character is perpetuating harmful prejudice against them or some shit.
A few months ago I got called an idiot for claiming that the Yakuza games were themed around Japanese men and masculinity, and that having a main-line female led game would be terribly condesending. Such are the times.
I love the yakuza games, kiryu (as well as many of the other main characters) are fantastic not just in them being strong but likable and interesting as well
I don't care about any of what came before if the game is interesting. This is why there needs to be a preface saying "It's not an attack to women, but actually it would suck because women just don't fit Yakuza as protagonists" which is just random and undeserved, skilled writers can do whatever they want and if Yakuza got to this point they'll make it work, I have that sort of trust.
The demonization of "strong Men" in Western Media has made me completely move to watching mostly Asian Movies/TV Shows and playing older video games (playing through the Yakuza Series for the 1st time from 0-Like a Dragon. Currently on Yakuza 3 remastered) or being VERY selective with which new games to purchase.
Same here. As a woman, I am beginning the find the strong flawless woman types kinda boring, and not as relatable, I was recently replaying the Witcher 3 for the second time and I found myself relating more to gearlt than any modern female lead the media can produce. And I am also playing through neir automata, with both a male and female lead, 2b and 9s, both of them relatable, and flawed, and strong in their own ways. Pleas bring back flawed leads, of both genders.
@@peridotpockygod.9080 Amazing point. I think the overriding issue is that Hollywood/Western writing either party or fully because of “3rd wave feminism” don’t know how to write compelling but flawed (aka relatable) female Characters (I think Lara Croft in the recent trilogy is a huge exception). They can only write either “Mary Sue” characters *cough Captain Marvel and Rey from Star Wars cough* or completely demonize even straight man around that character. In my mind that does BOTH sexes a huge disservice. Personally I love good compelling storytelling regardless of the characters gender but will completely avoid any content that’s going to preach/talk down to me because I’m a man.
@@CornG4397 💯 agree, compelling and flawed characters with good writing regardless of gender are relatable to both sexes. It’s almost like writing for western entertainment forgot the point of “compelling story first” instead of “agenda checkboxes over everything else.” Or most writers just suck now and can only pander to the twitter blue check marks and games “journalists” lol.
And it never once talks down to you. It doesn’t judge you, attack or assume it knows better. And it was a smashing success, surprise surprise am I right?
The protagonist went full circle and went to a fucking insane person, which I'm cool with. Yes, he was doing terrorist actions but I get why, doesn't stop him being wrong in almost putting innocent people in jeopardy, but I got it. He was a very grey character. I understood 100% why he did what he did but I can also see from a civilian point of view, that dude was a true danger to society. And that is what made the show good. Nobody was the good guy in that. Maybe in the beginning but further we went the more and more his actions became bad. Which he thought himself as well but he couldn't stop his mission because he literally had nothing left to lose but get his revenge.
It is rather sad that we live in a world where talking about male representation needs to be prefaced with "this is not an attack on women". That being said, I am hopeful that things will change and that we will be able to have media where no one gender is berated.
That's because most people today have a divided/unbalanced/dualistic mindset which leads people to think and imagine things in a "us vs them", "me vs everyone else" type of thinking wich also leads to believing and seeing everything in a zero sum way. Basically if your not helping "us/me" then your helping "them/everyone else". This is also due to a lack of objective Logic and of understanding or straight up willfull ignorance of Objective Morality leading to basing right and wrong on their personal feelings and idiologies. A moral person wouldn't base right or wrong on their own feelings or biases or they wouldn't care, let's say, if the victim of a crime was of a specific gender, they would only care who was the victimizer (the immoral one) and who was the victim (the one in the right).
@@agm5424 I wouldn't say most people but yeah, even some people that I had high expectations of have proven to have a very narrow and willfully ignorant approach to things. That being said, with how badly the media that pushes "the message" is doing I'm hopeful we'll be over this craze in a few years, if we're still around by then.
The reason it’s like that is because 99% of the loudest people who talk about male representation like this *are* those kinds of people, if you really wanna solve this problem you need to crack down on them before anyone else. It’s not “ThA SjWs” that are the biggest problem, because all they’re capable of is pointing at and shrieking about those loud toxic dickheads who give as all a bad name- If we cracked down on the loudmouths first the sjw types wont have any ammunition to use against us, it deprives them of their favorite excuses.
@@EndymionTv exactly. Sadly there are people who just wants to see the world burn, starting with men. Not realizing that this will harm women and children in the long term. Weak men will never be taken seriously and for a country that has many weak men, they're just making themselves a ripe target for some malevolent organization like a rouge nation, a rebel group or a terrorist group.
Arcane is my favorite example of a show that has brilliantly written strong female characters without emasculating or reducing male characters to jokes or villains. The male characters are all as interesting, empowering and just all around badass and likeable without it being a competition with the female characters. On top of that the show is just a masterpiece in general and has inspired me to pursue animation and storytelling.
Absolutely agree. Each character in Arcane were incredibly well defined just on their own. Some might have a backstory with another, but you don't need a backstory for just the characterization. Each one could have their own story that Never mentions another established character, and Still be good characters. And to be able to mesh these characters together so that they play off each other, and help each other grow as characters in the world building is Such a difficult task to do in writing. I went in to Arcane expecting it to be shit, and to tear it a new asshole. But after 10 minutes I completely forgot about that and was just engrossed in the characters, world, story.
Same here, i was inspired to write my own fantasy story... Tbh there are three strong male protagonists and strong female side characters in my books and in today's world, that's not the way to go. After all, i write for my self and ppl who like it 😄
Whoever is strong doesn’t need to be strong by pushing others down. Gray Man is a good example because the “strong woman” basically saved his ass in his most times of need. The only difference is that it never came off like pandering. He was the main character but she helped him, it was just done appropriately. Can’t see why you can’t have it both ways.
The key thing is "in his time of need" Every human can be strong, but you show your humanity threw your vulnerability. Having someone help you doesn't make you less strong, it means you're human.
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@@grinko1222 I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic, honestly. But they helped each other, ultimately. She saved his ass, he saved hers. He shaved her ass, she shaved his.
personally i think that Guts from berserk is the perfect example of how to write a strong, sure his power and strength is extreme and godlike compared to normal humans of the series he swings a sword that weigh more than 100kg or about 300lbs but he struggles so much that earth is like hell for him he is really emotional and is driven by his feelings for vengeance and is probably fiction’s most tragic character but he still keeps on going. his love Casca was a strong but emotional female character that struggled.
That guy is in league of his own,a lot of anime characters like Goku,Saitama,Superman shows great personality that I would love my kids to look up to n leave the ones degrading men.
I feel like of all forms of media, Novels suffer from this topic the least. If you're looking for refreshing media that depicts male and female characters equally as humans first and gender/sexuality aren't as important, I'd recommend picking up a Brandon Sanderson novel sometime. Character writing is something he excels in, and especially in the Mistborn series, the characters feel refreshingly human. Even when he writes characters who are overtly feminist, they do so in a way that empowers female characters without degrading male ones, and his writing never once talks down to its audience. Edit: Particularly Era 2, the Wax and Wayne series. The first doesn't struggle with strong men but does struggle with strong women that aren't its protagonist
100% agree! Also,to find good female protagonists and villains as well as and good male secondaries and villais pick up 'the book of the ancestor' trilogy by Mark Lawrence.
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This is why I looked into self publishing because the traditional houses are indoctrinated by that women policy. Male weak. Female must be empowered. No female must be villain
Mangas such as Berserk, Sun Ken Rock, Holyland, Vagabond, Vinland Saga etc. Are filled with strong men and i recommend anyone who hasn't seen any of them or have seen a few of them should check out the rest. I highly recommend them because they inspired and taught me lots of good things
And Cyborg 009, don't forget about that. The titular character as well as the cast as a whole has many strong male characters. It's also one of the most influential manga in history, so there's that as well.
The fact that this disclaimer has to even be a thing is sad asf, this desperately needs to change. Men and women can be stronge not one or the other and people seriously need to understand that but anyway this is an amazing vid and keep preaching the good message.
Very true, just your message should go without saying, but sadly some people talk out of their ass before watching the actual video. I don't think you said anything wrong tbh. Pardon my language
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As a straight woman, I miss strong men in media and in real life. The beauty of male and female relationships of all kinds is the balance. We are both strong in different, but equally necessary ways. Like Yin and Yang, we compliment each other and are incredibly powerful together.
You showed the clip of Aloy telling the cook to stand up for himself. And I think one of the biggest things over looked in Horizon is Rost. How important Rost is to Aloy. How Rost taught her everything she knows. His guidance made her the capable young woman she is today.
When you mentioned how "Batman Begins" is about a flawed Bruce Wayne overcoming his fears and trauma to become something more, I thought of "The Batman" and how it shows a similar message. In this movie, Bruce's actions lead to the creation of the Riddler, his trauma and fear giving him the misguided idea that he must be Vengeance to strike fear in the hearts of the criminals. But by doing so he only makes things worst and Gotham only begins healing once he goes past his flaw, face his trauma and understands that he CANNOT be anger and fear, he must rise above it. He must be the hope for the fearful, the light that shines through to the lost souls of a decayed city. I am really glad that they took such a risk and made Batman a flawed, yet good man. It makes me hopeful that even though there's this trend of making weak men in media, some people still strive to do better and give us heroes to strive towards. "The Batman" shows us perfectly how a flawed man can rise above his weaknesses and become something greater and I hope more young boys took it as an example on what to become.
The Batman was much better than I thought it would be. Kudos to the filmmakers for not making Selina Kyle some perfect invincible grrrrl power character either. She's believable, has flaws, takes hits, and doesn't just automatically win everything, much like Batman himself.
Its a brilliant movie ,a very well done Bruce Wayne and Batman.It gives you a feeling of hope , the want to do good and help others.The last scenes of Batman helping the civilians in flood was so symbolic and beautiful.
I still prefered how batman begins treated this over The Batman, because batman begins focused more on The man behind the mask, something the batman doesnt.
That's why I really enjoy stories set in history and classic fantasy novels. The male characters in there are mostly strong and something to admire. The female characters, if done well, they're depicted as strong as well while still being feminine. You know, the realistic depiction of most women from history. Take LOTR for example. You've got Aragorn, Boromir, Faramir, Sam, Frodo, etc. They are strong male characters that aren't perfect and go through hell together. The females in that story, like Eowyn, Arwen and Galadriel are strong in their own right and have satisfying character arcs. The world is medieval and their roles in those stories make sense. They're respected as feminine characters and not fake masculine ones, which we see in so many bad stories these days. I relate to Eowyn and Arwen despite being a man. Their struggles make sense in the world they inhabit. I consider LOTR timeless, and I do not consider recent entertainment timeless.
I'm trying to write a story that has both strong male and female characters and I'm doubtful it will get any traction due to how the media is pushing their poor materials.
All I gotta say is don't worry about the gender. Just work on your characters. Readers/audiences care more about the person's character rather than their gender.
I've become very skeptical of female led medias, games and tv/movies, because of this. Besides Horizon, tomb raider, and single player games to customize myself as female, I rarely engage in other female games. Like you said, it's demeaning and insulting to see men get put down and neutered in the pursuit of female empowerment. I used to love the marvel movies, but I haven't seen a single female led superhero movie (watched Black Widow because of friends) because they are always terrible. Why would men watch or engage in media that actively insults and disrespects them?
I'm sure a masochist enjoys watching that, but that doesn't make it good. It's unhealthy and toxic If I have a son - or Hell, a child of any sex - I will surround them with the best possible media. Tell them stories about earning rewards through effort; treating others with compassion; thinking on your feet; etc.
I've never fully enjoyed media with female leads I'm not a female so my innate responses, reactions, ideas and means of survival are completely different and they're never that relatable Plus when I project into a story I don't project myself into a woman because I'm not a woman
Even Horizon Zero Dawn depicts men as either weak, evil, or effeminate. The only remotely good male character there is Erend and even then he is depicted as being lesser than his sister.
@@OmegaF77 I'm sad cause I was actually loving the game so far, before finding about its "feminist" subtext, and then it clicked in my mind: certain dialogues, certain jokes, certain characters. The funny thing is, there were some jokes on men I actually enjoyed, because I thought they were simply that, just jokes, and not some subtle and smug way of passing the same old anti-men message. I mean, laughing and poking fun at male characters can be really entertaining, but not so much when behind the jokes there is an actual intent to look down on and ridicule a certain social group.
Demonizing young men will lead to lots of angry young men with nothing to lose and no guidance on how to compose themselves to fight this cultural battle. This will lead to a lost generation which could lead to violence and actually move us backwards.
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If you think showing a female character as more powerful and capable then a male character is "demonizing young men", that's just you being paranoid and oversensitive
Wow it’s almost like parents and other role models should guide and nurture young boys into good men, not some movie, tv show, or video game. 😂 lol I’m so glad I have parents.
U have a point, (as female not against emotional or vulnerable men, I think there also important) about the whole “the only way the entertainment media thinks they make a strong female character is to surround herself with weak men or praise upon her” which is something what I’ve been thinking for quiet a while and it’s frustrating how they think in that way.
The female protagonists of movies and TV series today are mostly toxic and annoying. Nowdays the misandry rules, specially in usa, is sad 😔 (Sorry for My English i'm latino) 😕
Yes, and that's not a good example. Strong female and strong male characters can coexist and work. What exactly does it gain us if a masculine female character is beating all the silly scripted male characters around her in a cool way? Also, such female characters don't feel powerful at all. They act as if strong male and female characters can't be together. I hate this.
One thing that I find disappointing in modern western media and in western society in general is that men are encouraged to be emotional, but only when that emotion is love or sadness. A man isn't allowed to get justifiably angry at something or someone anymore. There's a pressure for stoic men to be more vocal about feelings that would make them vulnerable, but if they get angry with their wife, they are now evil. Men frequently share their more tender feelings -- but it's not always verbal. It could just be in an expression or an action. And anger is a natural human reaction that shouldn't be demonized. True, being destructive because of your anger is unhealthy, but anger in itself is not unhealthy. Just as holding back emotion is not unhealthy. A stoic man is not a toxic one.
yeah I don't understand why they try to feminize us so mutch we don't wanna be emotional we don't wanna be physically weak we don't wanna talk about our problem everytime that's just how we are.
@@sole008 they don't understand what it is to be a man. Just because we do not cry does not mean we do not feel pain, just because we don't talk about our problems doesn't mean we don't feel burdened by them and just because we have strength it doesnt mean we will harm others with it. So what is it to be a man? It is not something that can be defined with words, it is what we are and we must answer that question by simply being ourselves.
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I also want to add that you cant make strong women by making all the men around them useless and weak. That doesn’t make them strong, at best it makes them mediocre or sub par. If a hero is only as good as his strongest villains then a female protagonist should also be only as strong as the strongest men around her
pause. if the argument is that "a hero is only as good as its strongest opponent" then wouldn't framing the issue as "a female protagonist is only as good as the strong men around them" intrinsically link the "men around them" with the "strong antagonist?"
@@fwwaller then your comparison just falls flat. The line between Protagonist and Antagonist is not the same as the one between Lead and Supporting Cast. Those comparisons aren't even parallel.
Thank God I was a teenager in the 90s nothing gonna move my beliefs but what I'm even more thankful is that both my sons are very clear about the role of man! Not only that they totally hate this trend/ agenda and the funny thing is they both came to that conclusion on their own!
In recent years I've suffered from severe depression which has lead to being suicidal due to having autism and feeling like everyone hates me for both being white and male. This video has been a breath of fresh air, so thanks for that :)
hope your'e doing ok man, but just let me say this, you shouldn't think too much about what others think, try keep your mind free from stuff like that, just be yourself and be kind to others, so if others have a problem with you know its not your fault, its theirs.
@@Spillow-C Ok, this may sound like a joke but... man, we live in a society. I mean, what other people think of you is important because we live in a society, not caring what others think of you is poor advice by a person with likely not a lot of experience in life, no offense. Better advice would be: Choose well whose opinion is actually important.
@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 i said, you shouldn't think "too much", not "at all" or something, because thinking too much about that it makes you under pressure and constantly nervous, and it becomes sickness, especially if you are a introvert or a weak person in general
More videos like this need to exist from more online creators to spread this message, and change things for the better. Great video man just keep it up.
It is sad that now when I see a strong and/or competent man, I feel excited and elated. Its so uncommon now... I went back and watched an anime recently and it is so pleasant seeing truly good male characters
It's why I enjoy eastern media in general so much more than western, because (as far as the games I play), eastern games want to tell a story, not make a social statement. I just don't understand why anyone would think that the only way to make yourself look better is by putting down and *oppressing* them, the exact stuff they accuse men off.
Agree. When a character, male or female, is 'truly' strong - they don't need to push the other down. Many characters from LOTR trilogy like Aragorn or Éowyn are good examples.
@@User-jp1sj Only if your idea of "better" is "smugly looking down, mocking and attacking everyone who doesn't agree with me": that's not a strong character, that's an insecure, childish, self-absorbed asshole, regardless of gender or any other personal traits.
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As a husband and father now 40, I am old enough that the young guys are more like sons. And God, they are listless. I’m a master electrician, and my apprentices are young guys, 18, 20 years old. What they think a man should be is learned from media and school, because their own father was not in the home. They start out parroting this conception of being a man - they want to be aggressive, won’t own fuckups, overly emotional, shun responsibility. But it doesn’t take long for the dormant manhood in them to come out with a little persuasion. I had one young guy last summer who was making up for his lack of confidence with the “I don’t give a fuck” attitude. He would slow walk into the job, meander around, not pay attention, etc. I knew what I had to do. When a task came up that was important (running a wire tugger) I said out loud that this other guy should do it, the apprentice doesn’t want to be anything more than a gopher, getting materials and whatnot. I knew it would piss the kid off, and it did, he started arguing that no one teaches him anything, etc. I asked him if he was in my place, would he put any time into him? He stormed off to the break area, but I knew I had him. He even left the job early. I didn’t call him or anything, just waited to see if he could find his balls that night or not. Sure enough, he showed up the next morning and started putting in effort. I didn’t say anything about him leaving for a couple months. When it came time for his first report, he thought I was going to shit on him, but nope. I told him the truth. He has the ability, he has the smarts. He just needed to put some ass into it, and he’ll be a great electrician. These kids don’t have fatherly models. I’m not perfect, God knows. You don’t have to be. Young men today - just like throughout history - want to know when they bust their asses and take life’s punches on the chin that it is the right path for them. That it means something. That they are valuable and needed. Media used to supply this. When a super hero gets his ass kicked, or has to own up to his actions and words, even when it is far easier not to, that’s a life lesson. That is what men must do. That stubbornness and aggression every man has inside him is there for a reason, and a man must choose whether to turn it to good or evil. Modern media teaches these kids that their natural aggression and stubbornness is wrong, and that’s bullshit.
Man, I feel bad for non-Islamic people, not in a condescending way. Almost all of them don’t know what a man should be like. At least for us Muslim men, we have a clear role model who we should emulate, which is the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) - literally the greatest man who ever lived. I know the saying you can’t teach an old dog new tricks (no offense, mister!), but I think you should read about him and learn from his wisdom. God knows all young men should. Thank you for helping that kid.
When I grew up I had Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone, Harrison Ford, Robin Williams and later Jackie Chan. What do these kids have now? TH-cam influencers. Beta males who “transitioned”. Modern media telling them that traditional male masculinity is wrong and it should be shunned. No wonder so many kids today are messed up.
If you want a good old school example watch Paths of Glory (1957). It shows how a lawyer in the French army in WW1 is willing to stand up for what is right against his morally corrupt superiors and their selfish ambitions at the cost of innocent lives.
Yes. Strong male leads are important. I'm raising three boys who need to know that men are not stupid and dumb as portrayed in media. I'm tired of seeing men as weak minded individuals that are only comic relief. I want my boys to know that they can be strong and funny. This world has so many things backward. As a mom I have to be tough, but I receive negative comments because I raise my children to be independent and strong. Thank you for sharing this video. Very helpful .
I am trying to become a writer for my first story. I'm having three male leads and a female lead (it takes place over many years). Once that was done for the second book, I am hoping to make strong male and female leaders as they are twins not just to balance it out but also hope that some people could be their role model
The problem here is that this so called "toxic mascunlity" are all the attributes that a true man needs. He needs to be aggressive to ward off threats to his home or family, he needs to know how to fight to protect friends, family and hearth, he needs to be strong so then others can loo up to him and hopefully inspire others to be strong. He needs to be in charge so then he can teach his offspring ho to be strong and give life lessons as well. Destroying what it is to be a man not only weakens him but it also damages his reproduction possablities or opens them up to explotation. You want a good equality movie then watch Aliens. Bes. I'm not talking ie ever made and says more about how euality works. I'm not saying look ay Ripley but more so how Vasquez and the rest of the marines interact.
The problem is how many men don’t know how to turn off that aggressiveness when it is not warranted thus leading to the assholes that led to this overcorrection of wokeness
Knowing how to fight is not toxic. If anything it makes you very respectable towards others because you know your own limits and how difficult it is to be a real fighter. If everybody knew how to fight (women included) the world would be a better place.
I’m so happy that woke media is finally starting to die off. Now that these executives have learned that just because you’re trying to represent all of the masses, doesn’t mean it always makes for a good storytelling or is going to be so main stream that everybody’s going to except it. There such a thing as trying to overcompensate, and just like you could argue that the male representation was overwhelming getting rid of it completely and killing off chivalry was not the best move either. Ant Man & Wasp for example proves there can be a balance to all of it!!!
We also need to deal with woke in real life. Students at UC Berkeley ended up so brainwashed by their woke professors with anti-American ideology that when a filmmaker pretended to be a member of the Taliban was asking them for donations, they were all too happy to give him money. I was done listening to morons that complained about anti-SJWs because of that.
In most cases I would say, insecurity, because the writers and creative team know that they could never measure up so they try to tear down everyone better than they are.
Nowadays with western media so heavily falling into downplaying or demonizing men there are a few bastions of hope. I know you mentioned The Terminal List which was a great show that I absolutely loved every minute of. Also two more shows that do this are Jack Reacher and Invincible. Invincible was an incredible show that also got me extremely emotional with a strong, human male lead as well as Jack Reacher, a great thriller and action show that had an amazingly crafted plot. Both shows of course, had a second (and in Invincible’s case third) season green lit shortly after release. I honestly can’t recommend these shows more they’re so amazing.
A lot of people in the comments have told me to watch Reacher, which I will at some point now. Invincible was fun as hell too. That train scene in the last episode was nucking futs 😂
Journalists were obsessed with trying to force people not to like Terminal List. They failed miserably. Great show. Amazon has been carrying the strong male leads lately. (lets ignore Rings of Power though, lol)
The thing is, as a women I grew up wanting to see more women in media I could relate too. Now, there's more women in media, but I can't relate to them, and now little boys are growing up with the same problems I had and girls are watching 'role-models' that encourage toxic behavior.
When I was a kid, my favourite hero was Sonic the Hedgehog, because he represented freedom, free-thinking and the refusal to bow to pointless rules, despite choosing to do the right thing all the times. Nowadays, I consider that my favourite heroes are Optimus Prime and Kamen Rider, the first one for being a good old-school Lawful Good hero, who also stands up for principles in an age of relativism; the second one because he shows that being a hero or a villain is a matter of choice. ALL Kamen Riders are villains who choose to be heroes, reason why I consider them the ultimate antidote against the victim mentality that plagues modern society.
Excellent critique of the toxic environment against normalcy. During this time of attack on men, smaller media companies need to stand up and defend what is right. My small company is creating content that promotes the strengths of both men and women without demeaning either. What a concept.
Thanks for this video. I've been noticing this issue myself in media (the recently released She Hulk was really bad for this - every man was portrayed as creepy, submissive or a total douche) the sooner we appreciate that men and women both have strengths and weaknesses and we see each other as equals, that's when we'll rise above all this bullshit. A great example of this i want to throw into the hat is the movie Edge of Tomorrow. Brilliant movie where Emily Blunt and Tom Cruise's characters equally kicked ass.
Huh? In She Hulk, Daredevil is a better lawyer, Bruce was right about being a superhero all along, Emile was more in tune with his emotions, and Pug was positive and supportive of everyone. The only bad male characters were the literal villains.
I think the issue with male vs female lead roles, is that it is very important for your lead character to have struggles, trials and tribulations. It’s easy to show a man’s flaws , but people think in order to be a strong female you can’t have any flaws. Therefore you don’t grow with the character you don’t learn to love them because you can’t relate. Look at how people love the protagonist from Alien. We saw her her struggle to get through a situation and people love her for it. Now look at characters like she hulk or even the female Hawkeye. We saw the struggles of the male leads for those roles, but somehow she hulk and female Hawkeye are beating up triad members with no training? Stop the cap lol
the problem is bad writers. too much focus on agendas than narrative. thisbisnwhy anime is destroying western media right now. there's stringnwomen who can be cute and now butch lesbians who hate men. and men can be string men but vulnerable. vulnerable men btw are very appealing for girls. just look at why kpop is so popular. they're pretty but they are string asf.( aka muscles masculine)- even a lot of military cop themes. Japan's own society has a lot ofnproblems which is why their art medium creates ideal humanity. - we aren't just gender. and even if we are- girls can be sexy cute and still be string and love guys. same with guys can be string or cute and love girls (denji from chainsaw whole mission is to touch boobs- the female Makino is 100 onncontrol)...
She-hulk did have character flaws, the writers are just so bad though, they made her extremely unlikable and the overall show just terrible. I don't get how they allowed this project to be released or who it was supposed to appeal to. Even though Ms. Marvel didn't get great viewing numbers, it's a much better show and wish it got more attention than whatever she-hulk was supposed to be.
Yes, I hate this. The fact that the female leads are perfect creates a great pressure on the audience. Girl viewers feel inadequate. She has no development, no thoughts or goals. Just beating someone by acting masculine and being perfectly beautiful is not writing good female characters. No one can learn anything from such characters. It's also disgusting that They're crushes each other to make male and female characters shine. That's why men and women who know a job very well in the society cannot take place together. Because people compare and try to show power. In the future, boys and girls will be our children in this society. Let's act accordingly and treat the opposite gender accordingly.... Sorry for my english :)
the most recent unapologetic amazing male-female action movie is Top Gun Maverick. This is even more sweet for Ace Combat fan like myself. I think you should totally watch the movie & I would argue it's one of the best action drama movie so far. Also, of course watching Cyberpunk Edgerunners with David & Lucy dynamic bring such heartfelt moments of human psyche that very relatable to anyone.
I never even saw the original top gun but I was also an ace combat fan so I had a good feeling about maverick and it turned out to be one of the best movies I’ve ever seen
You should definitely read the manga kengan ashura its not as popular as demon slayer but it is really relatable with its two characters tokita ohma and yamashita kazuo. yamashita going from a wimpy scared little, everyman character to a straight cool dude that dont care what anyone says about him makes me happy :)
I'm a martial arts sensei and am a big advocate for allowing young men and women to discover their strength, discipline and respect for themselves and each other. We are non biased, no discrimination, no politics, everyone trains with and spars with everyone of every sex and skill set. And always when I have some entitled teenager come into the dojo, a female most recently, I put them through their paces but still get the ego and attitude so then I break them down to less then zero, make them realise they are not special without trying, they are not just instantly superior to everyone else. I push the importance of hard work, concentration and the enjoyment and reward of years or a lifetime of hard training. To bring a true sense of brotherhood/sisterhood, equality, teamwork and drive. So for the me the current state of most media is appalling for youngsters and just backwards. I hope at least in the next few years we can get a return to form in the world of media, video games and fiction.
I'm working on a crime thriller novel about a female detective, who represents a multi-gender team of profilers (basically, they talk to her via earpiece and see through her camera glasses), working alongside police and forensic technicians to catch a serial killer. I think I'm overly conscious about accidentally denigrating men or women (the super-detective who cracks the case is a woman, her stalker is a man, a female computer analyst succeeds where her male predecessor failed). One of the main characters is a man who's clinically depressed by all the anti-male stuff in media, and his move from sullen hopelessness to anger is shown as positive growth (his character arc is essentially throwing off anti-male messaging).
Those four reasons are fair to think “is this denigrating both genders?” but I wouldn’t worry about it, I’d worry more about “how do I execute this?” Because those type of characters can be done well through good writing. There’s nothing wrong with a female detective solving the big one. There’s plenty of female characters who solve big cases and mysteries like Veronica Mars, Clarice Starling, Nancy Drew, Enola Holmes, Daphne & Velma, etc. None of them did it without the help of others. I’d have the analyst make sure not make the same mistakes her predecessor did. Also this is just me I’d give her predecessor a reason he failed his job like if he was really stressed out or something major that cost him his job. Also your clinically depressed male character sounds like he has a lot of potential if what you say anger is a part of his growth. I’d have him become the man that most anti-male people like to ignore. Edit: Again this is just me, you don’t have to do these things, you do what you do with your book.
Also Korean media is doing well right now. Train to Busan is focused on a male character who is flawed and selfish, putting business over work, but he grows past that to the point that the ending is downright something to cry at. AC Origins was good? I played through it twice and I actually hated Bayek. As a parent I can get on board with his story and desire for revenge immediately but as a writer? There is no growth for him throughout the story, and he usually helps reluctantly, openly stating at one point that he didn't even want to be a Medjay. There is not enough growth in him for it to be believable that he founds the Assassins, not when he spent the entire game basically hating everything they stood for and only using them. I actually found him to be pretty annoying as a lead, with nothing to endear him to me beyond annoyance that he was the lead.
Still a great show though besides came from Korean Man that show got hype on Philippines even though when it about zombies Like western people did about zombies back then in 90s
As a girl, i like that the entertainment industry has moved past the damsel in distress trope and seeing badass women onscreen is great. But “strong” female characters doing major stuff in a story without earning it feels stale. And i don’t like seeing female characters be nothing but a glorified trophy to save. I like media where there are well written male and female characters. Some of the characters i relate to the most are male and female ones. That’s part of the reason why some of my favourite pieces of media are chainsaw man, attack on titan and avatar the last airbender. How i feel about female characters must be how guys feel about male characters, but instead of a glorified trophy, it’s the “strong” female character’s punching bag. Edit: also neon genesis evangelion and arcane
The Damsel in Distress conversation is always odd to me. Sure, there were some stories that portrayed a supposed "glorified trophy" but I'd argue that's not what women are even bothered by. Oftentimes, they just don't like Most times the woman isn't even shown as inept, simply caught in unfortunate circumstances. The male hero usually saves other men in those same series, but that doesn't mean they downplayed them. I'd argue women care less about being "glorified trophies" and more about not being as important or powerful in comparison. They don't want to ever be shown needing a man's help. Because the damsel thing is NEVER brought up when it's a woman saving a dude. Modern women dislike the trope, but also want a man that would do those exact things for them irl. It was usually never abt a woman being "weak", but emphasizing the sacrifices a man would go through to protect a woman, something biologically innate in men.
There's nothing wrong with damsels in distress - the damsels were not shown to be stupid or incompetent, and many of them displayed courage even when held captive.
Let us rise and make our own stories or support those giving us GOOD and well written characters! Male and female Nobody deserves to be talked down to or trashed because of something out of their control. We must stand against these toxic stories, vote with your wallets and choice.
I think the one thing I dislike about Japanese media (such as video games and anime) is cool and interesting fantasy worlds almost always feature teenagers as the godslaying heroes going out on the epic adventures. Finding romance and developing as people. They will often act way mature and experienced for their age(atleast in terms of skills and abilities) and could easily be portrayed in their 20s or 30s and it would be more believeable. I know why this is the case though. So I'd ask to be spared another justification for it. I relate more with Nero from DMC5 as he's my age at 25 and is still on a journey to find himself. Nioh is also a good example with William being in his mid thirties yet goes on this epic adventure while also teaching alot of this typical time in Japan's history and religious beliefs. But overall I lack an adventure, open world game which a cast of main characters my age doing the previously mentioned things. Final Fantasy XIV is a close contender, but I'd rather have these JRPGs feature it instead. Sadly, the overall game I want dosen't exist yet. But maybe I should rant anymore on it.
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Nier did this too with the Western version. The devs thought that western audiences might not like a Teenage protag, so they changed it to an older man in his late 30s, early-mid 40s and instead of a little sister, the female primary support character was his daughter. It accomplished two things, it made the relationship between the two alot more heartfelt because of how hard the father was working to keep his child healthy and alive as opposed to a sibling, and it made his anger and actions later in the game alot more harsh as it wasn't an angry young man lashing out, but a pissed off father who would _move the world_ to save his child.
That's japanese culture for you. They put a lot of emphasis on character growth at a young age that's just how it is, and it has the advantage of creating characters actual teenagers can easily relate to, through both their power fantasy and their internal struggles. Yes it's often silly but hey, at least they still put time and effort into creating their characters so it's definitely not all bad.
@@NorthWolf97 there's also a culture of remembering what it was to be young, not working etc. you've already gone through a lot of similar life expenience so it's not writing towards you. but much of these are marketed at kids and young adults who have the time. i find i don't play JRPG's because i simply don't have the time to do the grind any more. but i enjoy something like Dark souls because, it's grindy enough but the grind is based around skill and boss memorization. there are still stuff for adults though. but you'll see it in older works. for manga and anime your probably going to want to watch Seinen stuff. which is targeted more for adult men. at 30 it's hard to do a proper hero's journey without committing more to someone who's kinda already an expert in that field, especially in a culture which believes that you should already be well into your career at that point. this doesn't lead well to young upstart who goes to kill gods, rather when it's older media it's mid 20-mid 30's male who's already a badass or someone competent at their job. for example the Yakuza series follows someone highly competent already. if you wanted something light hearted wotokoi is more a rom com of japanese otaku who work in an office setting.
From the get go I have been a social commentary channel, I am now embracing it. I will talk about Elden ring etc when there’s news. But I don’t want to limit myself to any one particular game or genre. I hope you understand, plus this way it’s far more fulfilling for me. Thanks
Absolutely this my dude. It’s good to see someone else who feels the same that’s not from specifically labeled social circles. I hope this video gets the traction it deserves.
As a woman i like strong male and female characters and I think we need more of them especially the strong male characters like Batman , Spider Man and Iron Man and I hate weak male characters like Fred from Velma who’s reduced to a punching bag and made fun of because he’s a man and he’s a jerk and I’m tired of seeing characters like him
Growing up as a girl on media that made me believe that the best I have to offer in a relationship is sex wasn't fun. It's sad that now people are flipping the table over to harm young boys instead... I think I just wish intellectual and objective opinions like these were more prominent before to shield me from the damaged idea I have of sex and intimacy... At this point all of this is just too tangled and messed up for anyone to enjoy any media...
Grate video mate, love how correct you are on how there's a hate movement in western media towards men, for the shake of hate. Said this we need strong male characters for the young kids as well as strong well written female characters, when a character main thing is that he is a female and its perfect without flaws he are portrying the same toxicity, we need well written character independent of their gender.
The fact anyone could look at what I am saying here & think I hate women is insane. Young boys need good representation too in media. Otherwise you’ll end up with a bunch of incels who hate everything lol. Thanks for watching
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I really agreed with this my favorite reputation of 2 genders personally are From software games Resident evil games And silent Hill They have good characters who do have flaws and show there strength and weaknesses The title of this video did kind of worry me I'm glad I watched through because I completely agree. Men and women should be equally matched not dumb men who are way to week and not female characters who depend on men Strength should go both ways in every way. It's not sexist for a man to win against a women via a women winning against a man that's just life. people lose people win it shouldn't be about the gender that shouldn't matter it should just be about the character itself and what there good or better at.
Great message. It's disturbing how so much of modern "empowering women" comes at the expense of men. It really is not difficult to just uplift both sexes equally, and make both male anf female characters strong and capable yet also flawed and relatable. Because like, most people are exactly that.
This is perfect! You said everything that I've felt in the last few years. And when you mentioned Batman Begins, I was blown away that someone else loves that movie as much as me. And how you related Batman Begins to the human struggle was spot on. And I couldn't agree more that young boys need a hero. When I was very young Batman was my hero and it set the foundation for me wanting to be the good guy. Great video!
It’s really sad how a lot of male characters are portrayed as either sexist, idiotic, or downright pathetic and inferior to female characters. I sometimes worry at some point in the future, it will be a female dominated world where men are looked down upon by women instead and portrayed as monsters who deserve to lose at life. The times where women are suppressed by men were terrible, but that is no excuse to just switch the roles so women can get payback. It just makes them no better or even worse than the men who discriminated against women.
Thank you so much for this video I really needed this…I know I’m a good man because I do work very hard my whole life and I’m grateful for the people that are apart of my…we do need more strong male characters because I tried of seeing us as useless..which is lame af…and my favorite fictional character that kind of shaped me in way was Goku lol and I could read a whole book about it
Honestly, Mass Effect really handled the men and women thing sooooo well. Because whether you played Male Shep or Female Shep, both characters were awesome to see, both characters were strong, empowered, capable, leaders. And the squadmates around you all had interesting stories and personalities, but were each strong in their own way. Tali spends the trilogy carrying the responsibility of serving her people on her shoulders. Garrus spends the trilogy trying to do as much good as he can, and owning up to the consequences when his actions don't pan out as he expected, Ashley tries to make her family proud by absolving the Williams name of the black mark that was brought on it by her grandfather, Wrex learns to look past his own pain and despair and becomes the leader his people desperately need, Liara finds her courage and confidence lives up to her mother's legacy of being an influential voice in Galactic politics, Thane learns to take responsibility for the choices of his life, and in his final days becomes the father he should always have been, and Mordin learns to accept his guilt for the Genophage work and in one final glorious moment, gives his life to atone for the monstrous act he did. Each of these characters are not just men and women at their best. They're men and women who through the course of the story, rise up to become the best version of themselves. And its beautiful to see.
They have become exactly like that which they attack. They do not want meaningful change, they only want to be the bully rather than eradicate bullies altogether
Also, in terms of domestic abuse: my uncle was abused by his wife for decades. She told him he was garbage, and he refused to ever fight back or defend himself whenever she got violent. Because he believed her.
I was born in the early 90s I saw the unrealistic standards for women and girls and starting standing up for them in my teens because I knew it was wrong , than in the 2010s I started seeing the inverse a massive spike in the stupid father figures in kid and teen shows. I'm talking where the kids didn't respect their male role model to the point when the father gives solid advice than he immediately relapes back to his slap stick self because the show calls for it. Its important to keep positive strong male roles like Marcus Fenix , Nathan drake around for men and boys as its important we keep strong female roles around like Kim possible and edalyn from owl house .
Yea I think Homer Simpson is one of the few executions of this trope that actually works because the show doesn’t just paint him as entirely worthless because well he can be selfish, rude and stupid he also has consistent good traits such as his kindness, loyalty and self acceptance plus it helps that he always tries to fix his mistakes I’m also referring to the early seasons
Damn Kratos from God of War is such manly inspirational character, hes doing everything for his family, he has his past when he was overtaken by anger and his path to be great general with which he has to deal with, so he teaches his son to not do the same mistakes he did. hes just an icon of pure manliness in my opinion
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Fantastic video! I agree with everything you said and I just can't wrap my head around why western media continues to diminish men while asian media is running laps around them in terms of success. In my opinion, the best entertainment really comes from asia or japan to be more specific and their products are still as much fun as they always were.
Reading so many comments from women showing support for this is such a breath of fresh air. I appreciate you all. I hope we as a whole can find a way to heal the wounds, to love and respect eachother going forward. To the men who haven't been burned so bad they retreat into solitude for safety, the support and love of the women in our communities is a massive motivator to be better men. We need you on our side, and you need us on yours.
I think everyone is burnt out of this media cycle in general. It's so focused on turning groups of people against each other and that's not how people are in the real world. Of course there will always be hateful people, but media paints this as the rule, and not the exception and folks are waking up to this nonsense.
Somehow think kdrama ( korean drama ) have managed to balance the strength between men and women, ironically their society is very much the opposite. They can have a very powerful women wearing her dress and fashion, with a male love interest. Even if the woman is strong they still don't just always push down on men. Meanwhile they show men having emotions and tears but still being a strong man. Same with the women who can be strong and emotional.
Asians have a clear grasp of feminine and masculine characteristics, which is why they know how to really write an impactful story about it without tarnishing those characteristics. At least that's what I notice from years of watching and consuming their media (books, videos, comics).
My favorite strong male character which everyone loved in video game culture was Arthur Morgan from Red Dead Redemption. Teaching young men to stand up for what they believe but also being willing to change when our faces are brought to light, is something young men should certainly know.
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As a women, I'm tired of media treating men as crap. They deserved to be loved and treated like human beings. Also a lot of the recent media from Disney has HORRIBLE writing for all of their characters.
The female protagonists of movies and TV series today are mostly toxic and annoying.
Nowdays the misandry rules, specially in usa, is sad 😔
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even the women are not portrayed like human beings, it is sickening
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It's ok.
But you're right, many of the female protagonists are just that, toxic female characters who just mean and nasty people, but are called strong and independent women by a bunch of fools. And it is sad.
I'm stuck between desiring companionship
and strong feelings of fear and distrust.
By that same token, my scope of
sympathy is extremely narrow.
@@chubbyninja89 I agree
I'm a girl as well and it's honestly just horrible because females that are portrayed as "strong" are extremely unlikable and are badly written too! This doesn't empower anyone
Only puts men down and to be honest I feel like I have received my fair share of hate too because females are so misrepresented by media portraying them so toxically
It's scary
Literally all media needs is to treat its characters like people no matter the gender and boom! A hit!
What is also lost in this issue is that young girls also need flawed heroes to look up to. Female "heroes" are portrayed as having no major flaws, and if they have a flaw it's actually a positive thing that people around them just don't understand. Boys and girls need to see flawed heroes who push through adversity and overcome challenges. Not just show up and win. Unfortunately it has gone in opposing directions. Female characters are often perfect and male characters often always wrong. Outside of the effect this has on young viewers, it makes for boring films/tv/games.
It also can negatively go in the opposite direction, by taking once exciting, larger than life characters and make them flawed for the sake of being flawed.
For example look at current day Lara Croft who has largely lost what once made her so appealing, and i'm not just talking about her sex appeal.
@@charmingpeasant9834 Really? I've never played the old Tomb Raider games but the new Lara Croft is ridiculously beautiful and smoking hot to be honest.
@@charmingpeasant9834 Lara croft is boring.
Also there is always a female character in most Male characters and is given special screen time. Whereas in a woman lead character every Men are either useless or dumb.
It’s why so many girls now has unbearable egos
As a man I've learned to ignore what society says about men and I do my best to become the best version of myself no matter what anyone else says
Your right... But I fear for little boys who don't know any better.
@@donvee2000 it’s our job to teach them
@@JCardo2502 based af
@@donvee2000 teach them to not be lil bi tches.
Yep! You're doing "being a man" correctly. People can hate all they want, it's not going to stop real, good men.
It's hard to respect your audience when you hate your audience.
Exactly right
how to sum up the MHA fanbase in one sentence
@@kaih_the_viewer The fanbase is the audience?? I think the comment above is talking about the creators hating their audience not the audience hating themselves
western media companies keep hiring women and so called "male feminists" as writers who hate men and want to see them degraded. Why that is or why they feel that way I'm not sure but they keep hiring them to write and the whole thing is so obvious. Neil Druckmann is still a creative director at Naughty Dog. smh.
I'm so glad this is being said. As a female myself, I hate seeing how degraded men in media has become. I grew up with great male characters and female characters. The diversity that we used to have was amazing and showed that you could have both male and female representation without any agenda behind it.
Thank you for being understanding & thanks for watching 🤘🏻🔥
And remember when " we all come from Africa, race is a stupid concept" was the message and we thought that judging people based on the content of their character rather than their immutable traits was a good idea? Since then, we made "progress"... I think that how they call it...
Remember the days of GOOD STORYTELLING. Crazy how we’ve strayed so far from that concept
@@EndymionTv FACTS
Exactly.
"Maybe it's because attacking your audience is a surefire way to make sure your projects never suceed ever." Lmao that was too good of a line bro
And they never learn
I’m a woman. And I love seeing strong male role models. I can relate to them regards gender. You don’t have to only like female leads as role models if you are a girl yourself. This is why I loved ben 10 growing up and more male recommended audiences. Because usually the stories and characters were better and more mature. I was a bit of a Tomboy but loved girly stuff as well. I never had a mindset of ew men. Which thanks to my family, they raised me right.
Bam! In my opinion your comment hits several nails square on the head. Especially with regards to IDENTIFICATION. What I mean is the volitive choice a person makes to align with the norms, values and behaviour of another one. As a boy, I grew up in the '80s and back then we had not quantity but at least quality on the 'strong female character' department (before they were called like that)... and I could identify with all of them, regardless of gender just like you. Princess Leia. Ellen Ripley. Sarah Connor. These were well written characters (back then) that I could understand and see as a role model because of their norms, values and behaviour, not their gender. That's actually what role models are about, ain't it? That said, I also think a very important question to ask is: what is the definition of STRONG men actually? One of the movies that really made an impact on me was 'Schindler's List', not because of the topic it displayed but the arc of Oskar Schindler (which Liam Neeson portrayed so masterfully): a man who had put himself atop the ladder of his world, saw the injustice of it and had the will and guts to act upon his change of heart, against much larger odds. That takes both strength and courage. His superpowers? Compassion and cunning. This character showed young me that 'with great power comes great responsibility' towards others, with real-world actions instead of spidey-senses. What I'm saying is, in an avalanche of super-powered characters in media, we maybe need more of these kind of role-models: the simple people that rise to a challenge and GROW throughout the process, showing us how to do it and why it is important to act upon it. So we can identify with their norms, values and behaviour, regardless of gender. My 2 cents.
Like on sigma male meme?
@@code066funkinbird3 The sigma male meme is quite cringe to be honest. But if i look at it from a personal view, I think it captures the feeling of longing, loneliness, sadness etc. But they look strong or are willing to live. The only part i find cringe is people wanting to be Patrick Baitman. A psycho who kills people, or so we think.
But I think most people have re branded his image to feel from a semi relatable stand point. Like his expressions, or adding him to POV situations as if trying to capture a metaphoric feeling us humans go through.
Great example of good female lead is Lara Croft Tomb Rider, the first remake of 2013 Tomb Rider is really good capturing Lara's journey as a female character overcoming boundaries, Lara's character still baddass and cool on par with any other male lead character/hero without sacrificing her feminism and looks
Unfortunately people who make media these days cant understand that you dont have to see someone exactly like you to relate to them, hell i doubt these people have actually spoken to a real.human outside of hollywood, i have female and gay friends who love the classic 90s xmen show and comics but they wanna change everyone into what THEY believe is what real people are. And sadly theyll just keep failing because they refuse to see past their own ignorance
Coming from a girl, I'm beyond happy and grateful that you made this video. I'm tired of seeing men being degraded. Strong men are what we need to have a functioning society. Feminists need to shut up and let men have their rightful place in the media.
What do you think of gow ragnarok
@@joshjonson2368 It was dogshit.
Glad to hear your reply. It's in womens bye interest to have strong men. More women need to speak up, because nobody's listening to men right now. Or what kind of men will there be for women to pair up with one day?
@@nurseshark02 That's why they are called "modern feminists" or feminazis in some circles. They took the original concept of what their idea meant and twisted it into a begrudged misandry spewing and self-entitled group that wants equality when it fits them. They are a small yet really fucking loud. Even some original feminists don't like the 3rd and up and coming 4th wave of feminists.
Western women have all the same rights as men along with all their own rights of being born a woman. Yet they keep saying they don't have anything! They have power and it seems they can't keep a lid on their mess as they are in-fighting on who is more marginalized in their group (ironic if you ask me)
Men and women can't be equal for many reasons, we can have equal opportunities but not equal outcomes as there is an inherent difference between men and women, and those differences make up for what each side lacks.
It’s not the feminists it’s the feminazis.
It’s probably why so many guys turn towards anime and manga and media of the such. It actually creates a male character that they can relate to and make the feel powerful and strong in places where most media fail to provide.
Thats the reason why Demon Slayer mugen train & Weathering with you are bangers. Because in Japan art comes before politics
I would also like to add that manga and anime has a lot of variety in the form of different types of stories that tend to different demographics, from comedy and slice-of-life to drama, crime, scifi, fantasy and a whole slew of other things. In the meantime western media seem hung up on the idea that one story should cater to everyone, and they concequently try to shoehorn _ALL_ the things into everything they make, slap on a "diversity and inclusivity" label and call it a day, with the end result being a mess that very few people likes. Then they attack their audience when things fail, and call them the negative buzzwords of the day before repeating the same mistake. In the meantime, if a manga doesn't succeed it gets booted out, and the creator have to go back to the drawing board (ha) and try again.
its funny when i see people hating on anime and manga so much. They can keep their American Netflix shows that shoe horn politcs and make men always useless.
Ill stick with the medium that acutally has men being badass and even manages to have strong female characters without making the males impotent lol.
Most Anime doesn't tell stories based on agenda narratives most of the time. its just stories with good characters both male and female. And it is why i prefer it now to most other entertainment media because it the same as it mostly always was.
As a woman I completely agree with everything you said. Many of my favorite characters in media are men and hate how modern media will/have ruin them.
To be fair modern western media doesn’t like women anymore than it likes men.
I too thought the same. I'm just 16 years old and I started writing stories when 15 on wattpad. I could do more better than them despite all are being a fanfiction and one single fantasy book. In addition, I'm working as a temporary writer on wattpad. Surprise.
I also don't understand why these writer make the woman protagonist to be overpower like that. And men treated like trash... do they know what are the consequences of this? Men are truly strong and that is a fact. Women too are strong but I show it in different way.
When I continue watching this. He's right. Asian is more better than Western. I prefer strong men characters and.. women as well but they must show their respect and great motivation.
I also love Demon Slayer!!
The female protagonists of movies and TV series today are mostly toxic and annoying.
Nowdays the misandry rules, specially in usa, is sad 😔
(Sorry for My English)
@@joshycash3936 seen so many examples of that with modern entertainment. Very good example of that are both She-Hulk and Galadriel of Rings of Power.
its rlly frustarting, as a girl, to like male characters or criticise a female character and someone just says "oh u just have internalised misogyny" like apparently even criticising a female character is perpetuating harmful prejudice against them or some shit.
A few months ago I got called an idiot for claiming that the Yakuza games were themed around Japanese men and masculinity, and that having a main-line female led game would be terribly condesending. Such are the times.
I love the yakuza games, kiryu (as well as many of the other main characters) are fantastic not just in them being strong but likable and interesting as well
Yakuza go hard bruh
But a game with a female lead would be interesting though 👀
@@Mash.Potatoes Absolutely! That's why I recommended it as a spin-off rather than a main title.
I don't care about any of what came before if the game is interesting. This is why there needs to be a preface saying "It's not an attack to women, but actually it would suck because women just don't fit Yakuza as protagonists" which is just random and undeserved, skilled writers can do whatever they want and if Yakuza got to this point they'll make it work, I have that sort of trust.
I'm a woman and I want strong male characters back, give us Clint Eastwood type of men back.
W woman
Ah yes Clint Eastwood who was close to attacking women at the Oscars. Very good male role models 😂
@@soleil5923 Attacking? When did he attack women?
W Woman
@@satines6045 Look at the phrasing "was close to attacking" basically it never happened but it "looked" to whoever said this it happened😂
The demonization of "strong Men" in Western Media has made me completely move to watching mostly Asian Movies/TV Shows and playing older video games (playing through the Yakuza Series for the 1st time from 0-Like a Dragon. Currently on Yakuza 3 remastered) or being VERY selective with which new games to purchase.
Same here. As a woman, I am beginning the find the strong flawless woman types kinda boring, and not as relatable, I was recently replaying the Witcher 3 for the second time and I found myself relating more to gearlt than any modern female lead the media can produce. And I am also playing through neir automata, with both a male and female lead, 2b and 9s, both of them relatable, and flawed, and strong in their own ways. Pleas bring back flawed leads, of both genders.
@@peridotpockygod.9080 it's almost like humans are capable of relating to chatacters of the opposite sex
@@peridotpockygod.9080 Amazing point. I think the overriding issue is that Hollywood/Western writing either party or fully because of “3rd wave feminism” don’t know how to write compelling but flawed (aka relatable) female Characters (I think Lara Croft in the recent trilogy is a huge exception).
They can only write either “Mary Sue” characters *cough Captain Marvel and Rey from Star Wars cough* or completely demonize even straight man around that character.
In my mind that does BOTH sexes a huge disservice. Personally I love good compelling storytelling regardless of the characters gender but will completely avoid any content that’s going to preach/talk down to me because I’m a man.
@@CornG4397 💯 agree, compelling and flawed characters with good writing regardless of gender are relatable to both sexes. It’s almost like writing for western entertainment forgot the point of “compelling story first” instead of “agenda checkboxes over everything else.”
Or most writers just suck now and can only pander to the twitter blue check marks and games “journalists” lol.
@@rippedtidegaming1349 female characters overall are boring and pathetic actually. You won't find any strong Male character in a female lead movie.
This is why I enjoyed the Terminal List so much. A male protagonist that keeps pushing through the pain to achieve his goals
And it never once talks down to you. It doesn’t judge you, attack or assume it knows better. And it was a smashing success, surprise surprise am I right?
@@EndymionTv
It's what happens when the usual suspects aren't the ones writing, producing and directing.
The protagonist went full circle and went to a fucking insane person, which I'm cool with. Yes, he was doing terrorist actions but I get why, doesn't stop him being wrong in almost putting innocent people in jeopardy, but I got it.
He was a very grey character. I understood 100% why he did what he did but I can also see from a civilian point of view, that dude was a true danger to society.
And that is what made the show good. Nobody was the good guy in that. Maybe in the beginning but further we went the more and more his actions became bad. Which he thought himself as well but he couldn't stop his mission because he literally had nothing left to lose but get his revenge.
The book series is pretty good.
Just started it. It feels refreshing to watch
It is rather sad that we live in a world where talking about male representation needs to be prefaced with "this is not an attack on women". That being said, I am hopeful that things will change and that we will be able to have media where no one gender is berated.
It will only change if we stop attacking each other & understand we need each other to keep existing
That's because most people today have a divided/unbalanced/dualistic mindset which leads people to think and imagine things in a "us vs them", "me vs everyone else" type of thinking wich also leads to believing and seeing everything in a zero sum way. Basically if your not helping "us/me" then your helping "them/everyone else".
This is also due to a lack of objective Logic and of understanding or straight up willfull ignorance of Objective Morality leading to basing right and wrong on their personal feelings and idiologies. A moral person wouldn't base right or wrong on their own feelings or biases or they wouldn't care, let's say, if the victim of a crime was of a specific gender, they would only care who was the victimizer (the immoral one) and who was the victim (the one in the right).
@@agm5424 I wouldn't say most people but yeah, even some people that I had high expectations of have proven to have a very narrow and willfully ignorant approach to things. That being said, with how badly the media that pushes "the message" is doing I'm hopeful we'll be over this craze in a few years, if we're still around by then.
The reason it’s like that is because 99% of the loudest people who talk about male representation like this *are* those kinds of people, if you really wanna solve this problem you need to crack down on them before anyone else.
It’s not “ThA SjWs” that are the biggest problem, because all they’re capable of is pointing at and shrieking about those loud toxic dickheads who give as all a bad name- If we cracked down on the loudmouths first the sjw types wont have any ammunition to use against us, it deprives them of their favorite excuses.
@@EndymionTv exactly. Sadly there are people who just wants to see the world burn, starting with men. Not realizing that this will harm women and children in the long term. Weak men will never be taken seriously and for a country that has many weak men, they're just making themselves a ripe target for some malevolent organization like a rouge nation, a rebel group or a terrorist group.
Arcane is my favorite example of a show that has brilliantly written strong female characters without emasculating or reducing male characters to jokes or villains. The male characters are all as interesting, empowering and just all around badass and likeable without it being a competition with the female characters. On top of that the show is just a masterpiece in general and has inspired me to pursue animation and storytelling.
I LOVED arcane
Arcane is incredible. What a breath of fresh air that was amongst all the crap Disney and Marvel have been pushing out these days.
Absolutely agree. Each character in Arcane were incredibly well defined just on their own. Some might have a backstory with another, but you don't need a backstory for just the characterization. Each one could have their own story that Never mentions another established character, and Still be good characters. And to be able to mesh these characters together so that they play off each other, and help each other grow as characters in the world building is Such a difficult task to do in writing.
I went in to Arcane expecting it to be shit, and to tear it a new asshole. But after 10 minutes I completely forgot about that and was just engrossed in the characters, world, story.
Same here, i was inspired to write my own fantasy story... Tbh there are three strong male protagonists and strong female side characters in my books and in today's world, that's not the way to go. After all, i write for my self and ppl who like it 😄
anime is the last island of conservatism
Whoever is strong doesn’t need to be strong by pushing others down. Gray Man is a good example because the “strong woman” basically saved his ass in his most times of need. The only difference is that it never came off like pandering. He was the main character but she helped him, it was just done appropriately. Can’t see why you can’t have it both ways.
Exactly you don’t need to tear someone down to bring someone else up
The key thing is "in his time of need"
Every human can be strong, but you show your humanity threw your vulnerability.
Having someone help you doesn't make you less strong, it means you're human.
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Wait, doesn't that make him a damsel in distress? Someone said to be capable shouldn't need so much saving. Did the woman herself ever need saving?
@@grinko1222 I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic, honestly. But they helped each other, ultimately. She saved his ass, he saved hers. He shaved her ass, she shaved his.
personally i think that Guts from berserk is the perfect example of how to write a strong, sure his power and strength is extreme and godlike compared to normal humans of the series he swings a sword that weigh more than 100kg or about 300lbs but he struggles so much that earth is like hell for him
he is really emotional and is driven by his feelings for vengeance and is probably fiction’s most tragic character but he still keeps on going.
his love Casca was a strong but emotional female character that struggled.
That guy is in league of his own,a lot of anime characters like Goku,Saitama,Superman shows great personality that I would love my kids to look up to n leave the ones degrading men.
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I feel like of all forms of media, Novels suffer from this topic the least. If you're looking for refreshing media that depicts male and female characters equally as humans first and gender/sexuality aren't as important, I'd recommend picking up a Brandon Sanderson novel sometime. Character writing is something he excels in, and especially in the Mistborn series, the characters feel refreshingly human. Even when he writes characters who are overtly feminist, they do so in a way that empowers female characters without degrading male ones, and his writing never once talks down to its audience.
Edit: Particularly Era 2, the Wax and Wayne series. The first doesn't struggle with strong men but does struggle with strong women that aren't its protagonist
Kaladin is one of the most badass written characters ever. Sanderson is working on pure magic with him.
100% agree! Also,to find good female protagonists and villains as well as and good male secondaries and villais pick up 'the book of the ancestor' trilogy by Mark Lawrence.
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Brandon Sanderson is a blessing to this world. I recommend everyone to try his books.
This is why I looked into self publishing because the traditional houses are indoctrinated by that women policy. Male weak. Female must be empowered. No female must be villain
Mangas such as Berserk, Sun Ken Rock, Holyland, Vagabond, Vinland Saga etc. Are filled with strong men and i recommend anyone who hasn't seen any of them or have seen a few of them should check out the rest. I highly recommend them because they inspired and taught me lots of good things
And Cyborg 009, don't forget about that. The titular character as well as the cast as a whole has many strong male characters. It's also one of the most influential manga in history, so there's that as well.
Fist of the north star ✨
Highschool of the Dead, Rising of Shield Hero, Shinchou Yuusha, Konosuba, Golgo 13, Hajime no Ippo, Armed Girls Machiavellism.
And Jojo
The fact that this disclaimer has to even be a thing is sad asf, this desperately needs to change. Men and women can be stronge not one or the other and people seriously need to understand that but anyway this is an amazing vid and keep preaching the good message.
If I don’t put a disclaimer things would get sour real quick
Very true, just your message should go without saying, but sadly some people talk out of their ass before watching the actual video. I don't think you said anything wrong tbh. Pardon my language
@@fmltwice8533 all good man!
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This whole thing Is Made on porpuse to weaken male from countries whit this woke bs so when the War comes it's easier to take over
As a straight woman, I miss strong men in media and in real life. The beauty of male and female relationships of all kinds is the balance. We are both strong in different, but equally necessary ways. Like Yin and Yang, we compliment each other and are incredibly powerful together.
❤
Damn right also a dude on here called us devils like wtf
You showed the clip of Aloy telling the cook to stand up for himself. And I think one of the biggest things over looked in Horizon is Rost. How important Rost is to Aloy. How Rost taught her everything she knows. His guidance made her the capable young woman she is today.
When you mentioned how "Batman Begins" is about a flawed Bruce Wayne overcoming his fears and trauma to become something more, I thought of "The Batman" and how it shows a similar message. In this movie, Bruce's actions lead to the creation of the Riddler, his trauma and fear giving him the misguided idea that he must be Vengeance to strike fear in the hearts of the criminals.
But by doing so he only makes things worst and Gotham only begins healing once he goes past his flaw, face his trauma and understands that he CANNOT be anger and fear, he must rise above it. He must be the hope for the fearful, the light that shines through to the lost souls of a decayed city.
I am really glad that they took such a risk and made Batman a flawed, yet good man. It makes me hopeful that even though there's this trend of making weak men in media, some people still strive to do better and give us heroes to strive towards. "The Batman" shows us perfectly how a flawed man can rise above his weaknesses and become something greater and I hope more young boys took it as an example on what to become.
I love The Batman it was a great film and rewatch it twice.
The Batman was much better than I thought it would be. Kudos to the filmmakers for not making Selina Kyle some perfect invincible grrrrl power character either. She's believable, has flaws, takes hits, and doesn't just automatically win everything, much like Batman himself.
Its a brilliant movie ,a very well done Bruce Wayne and Batman.It gives you a feeling of hope , the want to do good and help others.The last scenes of Batman helping the civilians in flood was so symbolic and beautiful.
I still prefered how batman begins treated this over The Batman, because batman begins focused more on The man behind the mask, something the batman doesnt.
The Batman was great. Way better then I expected (was esp impressed by the pacing. Despite being almost 3hrs it didn't drag for me at any point)
That's why I really enjoy stories set in history and classic fantasy novels. The male characters in there are mostly strong and something to admire. The female characters, if done well, they're depicted as strong as well while still being feminine. You know, the realistic depiction of most women from history.
Take LOTR for example. You've got Aragorn, Boromir, Faramir, Sam, Frodo, etc. They are strong male characters that aren't perfect and go through hell together. The females in that story, like Eowyn, Arwen and Galadriel are strong in their own right and have satisfying character arcs. The world is medieval and their roles in those stories make sense. They're respected as feminine characters and not fake masculine ones, which we see in so many bad stories these days. I relate to Eowyn and Arwen despite being a man. Their struggles make sense in the world they inhabit. I consider LOTR timeless, and I do not consider recent entertainment timeless.
I'm trying to write a story that has both strong male and female characters and I'm doubtful it will get any traction due to how the media is pushing their poor materials.
Go for it, ya kno be the change lol
Just do it! :) Don't let media hold you back
Keep at. Remember the fans.
All I gotta say is don't worry about the gender. Just work on your characters. Readers/audiences care more about the person's character rather than their gender.
Go for it
I've become very skeptical of female led medias, games and tv/movies, because of this. Besides Horizon, tomb raider, and single player games to customize myself as female, I rarely engage in other female games. Like you said, it's demeaning and insulting to see men get put down and neutered in the pursuit of female empowerment. I used to love the marvel movies, but I haven't seen a single female led superhero movie (watched Black Widow because of friends) because they are always terrible. Why would men watch or engage in media that actively insults and disrespects them?
I'm sure a masochist enjoys watching that, but that doesn't make it good. It's unhealthy and toxic
If I have a son - or Hell, a child of any sex - I will surround them with the best possible media. Tell them stories about earning rewards through effort; treating others with compassion; thinking on your feet; etc.
I've never fully enjoyed media with female leads
I'm not a female so my innate responses, reactions, ideas and means of survival are completely different and they're never that relatable
Plus when I project into a story I don't project myself into a woman because I'm not a woman
On the bright side, most women are bothered and don’t want to see it either. She hulk is right over there, along with rings of power.
Even Horizon Zero Dawn depicts men as either weak, evil, or effeminate. The only remotely good male character there is Erend and even then he is depicted as being lesser than his sister.
@@OmegaF77 I'm sad cause I was actually loving the game so far, before finding about its "feminist" subtext, and then it clicked in my mind: certain dialogues, certain jokes, certain characters. The funny thing is, there were some jokes on men I actually enjoyed, because I thought they were simply that, just jokes, and not some subtle and smug way of passing the same old anti-men message. I mean, laughing and poking fun at male characters can be really entertaining, but not so much when behind the jokes there is an actual intent to look down on and ridicule a certain social group.
strong men built the world, we will continue with the help of strong women
Great way to put it 🤘🏻🔥
Demonizing young men will lead to lots of angry young men with nothing to lose and no guidance on how to compose themselves to fight this cultural battle.
This will lead to a lost generation which could lead to violence and actually move us backwards.
It’s regression on a societal & emotional level yes
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Plus, how many corrupt politicians and their allies are going to exploit this to push for their insane agendas?
If you think showing a female character as more powerful and capable then a male character is "demonizing young men", that's just you being paranoid and oversensitive
Wow it’s almost like parents and other role models should guide and nurture young boys into good men, not some movie, tv show, or video game. 😂 lol I’m so glad I have parents.
U have a point, (as female not against emotional or vulnerable men, I think there also important) about the whole “the only way the entertainment media thinks they make a strong female character is to surround herself with weak men or praise upon her” which is something what I’ve been thinking for quiet a while and it’s frustrating how they think in that way.
The female protagonists of movies and TV series today are mostly toxic and annoying.
Nowdays the misandry rules, specially in usa, is sad 😔
(Sorry for My English i'm latino) 😕
Yes, and that's not a good example. Strong female and strong male characters can coexist and work. What exactly does it gain us if a masculine female character is beating all the silly scripted male characters around her in a cool way? Also, such female characters don't feel powerful at all. They act as if strong male and female characters can't be together. I hate this.
One thing that I find disappointing in modern western media and in western society in general is that men are encouraged to be emotional, but only when that emotion is love or sadness. A man isn't allowed to get justifiably angry at something or someone anymore. There's a pressure for stoic men to be more vocal about feelings that would make them vulnerable, but if they get angry with their wife, they are now evil. Men frequently share their more tender feelings -- but it's not always verbal. It could just be in an expression or an action. And anger is a natural human reaction that shouldn't be demonized. True, being destructive because of your anger is unhealthy, but anger in itself is not unhealthy. Just as holding back emotion is not unhealthy. A stoic man is not a toxic one.
You know what the problem of being a strong man is today? It's that everyone tries to make you weak.
yeah I don't understand why they try to feminize us so mutch we don't wanna be emotional we don't wanna be physically weak we don't wanna talk about our problem everytime that's just how we are.
@@sole008 they don't understand what it is to be a man.
Just because we do not cry does not mean we do not feel pain, just because we don't talk about our problems doesn't mean we don't feel burdened by them and just because we have strength it doesnt mean we will harm others with it.
So what is it to be a man? It is not something that can be defined with words, it is what we are and we must answer that question by simply being ourselves.
@@oranguman9360 your words could belong to a book 📖 I am taking it bro. Thanks 👍 your are absolutely right
100% agree with you. I am glad that someone started talking about this problem
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I also want to add that you cant make strong women by making all the men around them useless and weak. That doesn’t make them strong, at best it makes them mediocre or sub par. If a hero is only as good as his strongest villains then a female protagonist should also be only as strong as the strongest men around her
Wonderfully said
pause.
if the argument is that "a hero is only as good as its strongest opponent"
then wouldn't framing the issue as "a female protagonist is only as good as the strong men around them" intrinsically link the "men around them" with the "strong antagonist?"
@@zacharybosley1935 no,it wouldn’t
@@fwwaller then your comparison just falls flat. The line between Protagonist and Antagonist is not the same as the one between Lead and Supporting Cast. Those comparisons aren't even parallel.
Why is it ok when strong men are surrounded by women who are useless and weak?
Thank God I was a teenager in the 90s nothing gonna move my beliefs but what I'm even more thankful is that both my sons are very clear about the role of man! Not only that they totally hate this trend/ agenda and the funny thing is they both came to that conclusion on their own!
In recent years I've suffered from severe depression which has lead to being suicidal due to having autism and feeling like everyone hates me for both being white and male. This video has been a breath of fresh air, so thanks for that :)
Hope you’re doing ok nowadays.
Seek a therapist, this may sound like obvious advice but a lot of people with mental problems don't realize how much good therapy can do for them.
hope your'e doing ok man, but just let me say this, you shouldn't think too much about what others think, try keep your mind free from stuff like that, just be yourself and be kind to others, so if others have a problem with you know its not your fault, its theirs.
@@Spillow-C
Ok, this may sound like a joke but... man, we live in a society.
I mean, what other people think of you is important because we live in a society, not caring what others think of you is poor advice by a person with likely not a lot of experience in life, no offense.
Better advice would be: Choose well whose opinion is actually important.
@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 i said, you shouldn't think "too much", not "at all" or something, because thinking too much about that it makes you under pressure and constantly nervous, and it becomes sickness, especially if you are a introvert or a weak person in general
More videos like this need to exist from more online creators to spread this message, and change things for the better. Great video man just keep it up.
It is sad that now when I see a strong and/or competent man, I feel excited and elated. Its so uncommon now... I went back and watched an anime recently and it is so pleasant seeing truly good male characters
Appreciate all yuor points, dude.
I feel the same as you, it's unhealthy to push people down like this media people does nowadays.
I’m not about pushing down, but uplifting. Stand together, not apart
It's why I enjoy eastern media in general so much more than western, because (as far as the games I play), eastern games want to tell a story, not make a social statement.
I just don't understand why anyone would think that the only way to make yourself look better is by putting down and *oppressing* them, the exact stuff they accuse men off.
Agreed if I'm playing a game starring a woman it's most likely a Japanese game like Automata or Bayonetta .
Agree. When a character, male or female, is 'truly' strong - they don't need to push the other down. Many characters from LOTR trilogy like Aragorn or Éowyn are good examples.
It's amazing how there's so many people who unironically believe this
And I think the idea that you can't ever have a strong female character who's better then the male character is kind of stupid
@@User-jp1sj Only if your idea of "better" is "smugly looking down, mocking and attacking everyone who doesn't agree with me": that's not a strong character, that's an insecure, childish, self-absorbed asshole, regardless of gender or any other personal traits.
I’ve been watching you since your Elden Ring lore videos and everytime I get a notification about a new video, I have to watch. Thanks for making days better 🎉
I’m happy you enjoy the content, it exists because of viewers like yourself so thank you 🤘🏻🔥
As a husband and father now 40, I am old enough that the young guys are more like sons. And God, they are listless.
I’m a master electrician, and my apprentices are young guys, 18, 20 years old. What they think a man should be is learned from media and school, because their own father was not in the home. They start out parroting this conception of being a man - they want to be aggressive, won’t own fuckups, overly emotional, shun responsibility. But it doesn’t take long for the dormant manhood in them to come out with a little persuasion.
I had one young guy last summer who was making up for his lack of confidence with the “I don’t give a fuck” attitude. He would slow walk into the job, meander around, not pay attention, etc. I knew what I had to do. When a task came up that was important (running a wire tugger) I said out loud that this other guy should do it, the apprentice doesn’t want to be anything more than a gopher, getting materials and whatnot. I knew it would piss the kid off, and it did, he started arguing that no one teaches him anything, etc. I asked him if he was in my place, would he put any time into him? He stormed off to the break area, but I knew I had him. He even left the job early. I didn’t call him or anything, just waited to see if he could find his balls that night or not. Sure enough, he showed up the next morning and started putting in effort. I didn’t say anything about him leaving for a couple months. When it came time for his first report, he thought I was going to shit on him, but nope. I told him the truth. He has the ability, he has the smarts. He just needed to put some ass into it, and he’ll be a great electrician.
These kids don’t have fatherly models. I’m not perfect, God knows. You don’t have to be. Young men today - just like throughout history - want to know when they bust their asses and take life’s punches on the chin that it is the right path for them. That it means something. That they are valuable and needed. Media used to supply this. When a super hero gets his ass kicked, or has to own up to his actions and words, even when it is far easier not to, that’s a life lesson. That is what men must do. That stubbornness and aggression every man has inside him is there for a reason, and a man must choose whether to turn it to good or evil. Modern media teaches these kids that their natural aggression and stubbornness is wrong, and that’s bullshit.
Man, I feel bad for non-Islamic people, not in a condescending way. Almost all of them don’t know what a man should be like. At least for us Muslim men, we have a clear role model who we should emulate, which is the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) - literally the greatest man who ever lived.
I know the saying you can’t teach an old dog new tricks (no offense, mister!), but I think you should read about him and learn from his wisdom. God knows all young men should.
Thank you for helping that kid.
When I grew up I had Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone, Harrison Ford, Robin Williams and later Jackie Chan.
What do these kids have now? TH-cam influencers. Beta males who “transitioned”. Modern media telling them that traditional male masculinity is wrong and it should be shunned.
No wonder so many kids today are messed up.
If you want a good old school example watch Paths of Glory (1957). It shows how a lawyer in the French army in WW1 is willing to stand up for what is right against his morally corrupt superiors and their selfish ambitions at the cost of innocent lives.
Yes. Strong male leads are important. I'm raising three boys who need to know that men are not stupid and dumb as portrayed in media. I'm tired of seeing men as weak minded individuals that are only comic relief. I want my boys to know that they can be strong and funny. This world has so many things backward. As a mom I have to be tough, but I receive negative comments because I raise my children to be independent and strong. Thank you for sharing this video. Very helpful .
I am trying to become a writer for my first story. I'm having three male leads and a female lead (it takes place over many years). Once that was done for the second book, I am hoping to make strong male and female leaders as they are twins not just to balance it out but also hope that some people could be their role model
The problem here is that this so called "toxic mascunlity" are all the attributes that a true man needs. He needs to be aggressive to ward off threats to his home or family, he needs to know how to fight to protect friends, family and hearth, he needs to be strong so then others can loo up to him and hopefully inspire others to be strong. He needs to be in charge so then he can teach his offspring ho to be strong and give life lessons as well. Destroying what it is to be a man not only weakens him but it also damages his reproduction possablities or opens them up to explotation. You want a good equality movie then watch Aliens. Bes. I'm not talking ie ever made and says more about how euality works. I'm not saying look ay Ripley but more so how Vasquez and the rest of the marines interact.
The problem is how many men don’t know how to turn off that aggressiveness when it is not warranted thus leading to the assholes that led to this overcorrection of wokeness
Knowing how to fight is not toxic. If anything it makes you very respectable towards others because you know your own limits and how difficult it is to be a real fighter. If everybody knew how to fight (women included) the world would be a better place.
As a young boy myself, i'm used to being told that i'm pathetic and should change who i am, and i listen to them because i have nothing else to do
I’m so happy that woke media is finally starting to die off. Now that these executives have learned that just because you’re trying to represent all of the masses, doesn’t mean it always makes for a good storytelling or is going to be so main stream that everybody’s going to except it. There such a thing as trying to overcompensate, and just like you could argue that the male representation was overwhelming getting rid of it completely and killing off chivalry was not the best move either. Ant Man & Wasp for example proves there can be a balance to all of it!!!
We also need to deal with woke in real life. Students at UC Berkeley ended up so brainwashed by their woke professors with anti-American ideology that when a filmmaker pretended to be a member of the Taliban was asking them for donations, they were all too happy to give him money.
I was done listening to morons that complained about anti-SJWs because of that.
In most cases I would say, insecurity, because the writers and creative team know that they could never measure up so they try to tear down everyone better than they are.
Nowadays with western media so heavily falling into downplaying or demonizing men there are a few bastions of hope. I know you mentioned The Terminal List which was a great show that I absolutely loved every minute of. Also two more shows that do this are Jack Reacher and Invincible. Invincible was an incredible show that also got me extremely emotional with a strong, human male lead as well as Jack Reacher, a great thriller and action show that had an amazingly crafted plot. Both shows of course, had a second (and in Invincible’s case third) season green lit shortly after release. I honestly can’t recommend these shows more they’re so amazing.
A lot of people in the comments have told me to watch Reacher, which I will at some point now. Invincible was fun as hell too. That train scene in the last episode was nucking futs 😂
Too bad he didn't realize that amber was a toxic pos that should have been given the boot.
Journalists were obsessed with trying to force people not to like Terminal List. They failed miserably. Great show. Amazon has been carrying the strong male leads lately. (lets ignore Rings of Power though, lol)
The thing is, as a women I grew up wanting to see more women in media I could relate too. Now, there's more women in media, but I can't relate to them, and now little boys are growing up with the same problems I had and girls are watching 'role-models' that encourage toxic behavior.
When I was a kid, my favourite hero was Sonic the Hedgehog, because he represented freedom, free-thinking and the refusal to bow to pointless rules, despite choosing to do the right thing all the times. Nowadays, I consider that my favourite heroes are Optimus Prime and Kamen Rider, the first one for being a good old-school Lawful Good hero, who also stands up for principles in an age of relativism; the second one because he shows that being a hero or a villain is a matter of choice. ALL Kamen Riders are villains who choose to be heroes, reason why I consider them the ultimate antidote against the victim mentality that plagues modern society.
Excellent critique of the toxic environment against normalcy. During this time of attack on men, smaller media companies need to stand up and defend what is right. My small company is creating content that promotes the strengths of both men and women without demeaning either. What a concept.
I’m happy this video resonated with so many, men are not useless or disposable & it’s time we stop looking at them like that
Thanks for this video. I've been noticing this issue myself in media (the recently released She Hulk was really bad for this - every man was portrayed as creepy, submissive or a total douche) the sooner we appreciate that men and women both have strengths and weaknesses and we see each other as equals, that's when we'll rise above all this bullshit. A great example of this i want to throw into the hat is the movie Edge of Tomorrow. Brilliant movie where Emily Blunt and Tom Cruise's characters equally kicked ass.
Huh? In She Hulk, Daredevil is a better lawyer, Bruce was right about being a superhero all along, Emile was more in tune with his emotions, and Pug was positive and supportive of everyone. The only bad male characters were the literal villains.
@@markdotinc8371 RIp beta male
Don't listen to them woke ass replys. Mfs are lost.😅
I'm glad you made this video, I needed this
I think the issue with male vs female lead roles, is that it is very important for your lead character to have struggles, trials and tribulations. It’s easy to show a man’s flaws , but people think in order to be a strong female you can’t have any flaws. Therefore you don’t grow with the character you don’t learn to love them because you can’t relate.
Look at how people love the protagonist from Alien. We saw her her struggle to get through a situation and people love her for it. Now look at characters like she hulk or even the female Hawkeye. We saw the struggles of the male leads for those roles, but somehow she hulk and female Hawkeye are beating up triad members with no training? Stop the cap lol
the problem is bad writers. too much focus on agendas than narrative.
thisbisnwhy anime is destroying western media right now. there's stringnwomen who can be cute and now butch lesbians who hate men. and men can be string men but vulnerable.
vulnerable men btw are very appealing for girls. just look at why kpop is so popular. they're pretty but they are string asf.( aka muscles masculine)- even a lot of military cop themes.
Japan's own society has a lot ofnproblems which is why their art medium creates ideal humanity.
- we aren't just gender. and even if we are- girls can be sexy cute and still be string and love guys. same with guys can be string or cute and love girls (denji from chainsaw whole mission is to touch boobs- the female Makino is 100 onncontrol)...
She-hulk did have character flaws, the writers are just so bad though, they made her extremely unlikable and the overall show just terrible. I don't get how they allowed this project to be released or who it was supposed to appeal to. Even though Ms. Marvel didn't get great viewing numbers, it's a much better show and wish it got more attention than whatever she-hulk was supposed to be.
Yes, I hate this. The fact that the female leads are perfect creates a great pressure on the audience. Girl viewers feel inadequate. She has no development, no thoughts or goals. Just beating someone by acting masculine and being perfectly beautiful is not writing good female characters. No one can learn anything from such characters. It's also disgusting that They're crushes each other to make male and female characters shine. That's why men and women who know a job very well in the society cannot take place together. Because people compare and try to show power. In the future, boys and girls will be our children in this society. Let's act accordingly and treat the opposite gender accordingly.... Sorry for my english :)
Glad to see western people coming back to their senses. This definitely will help create a better future for all of us.
I greatly appreciate your voice speaking up and out for us
the most recent unapologetic amazing male-female action movie is Top Gun Maverick. This is even more sweet for Ace Combat fan like myself. I think you should totally watch the movie & I would argue it's one of the best action drama movie so far.
Also, of course watching Cyberpunk Edgerunners with David & Lucy dynamic bring such heartfelt moments of human psyche that very relatable to anyone.
Too bad it's a military-industrial complex propaganda.
I never even saw the original top gun but I was also an ace combat fan so I had a good feeling about maverick and it turned out to be one of the best movies I’ve ever seen
Great to see a video on this awful work days, thanks my bro
Enjoy!
You should definitely read the manga kengan ashura its not as popular as demon slayer but it is really relatable with its two characters tokita ohma and yamashita kazuo. yamashita going from a wimpy scared little, everyman character to a straight cool dude that dont care what anyone says about him makes me happy :)
I'm a martial arts sensei and am a big advocate for allowing young men and women to discover their strength, discipline and respect for themselves and each other. We are non biased, no discrimination, no politics, everyone trains with and spars with everyone of every sex and skill set. And always when I have some entitled teenager come into the dojo, a female most recently, I put them through their paces but still get the ego and attitude so then I break them down to less then zero, make them realise they are not special without trying, they are not just instantly superior to everyone else. I push the importance of hard work, concentration and the enjoyment and reward of years or a lifetime of hard training. To bring a true sense of brotherhood/sisterhood, equality, teamwork and drive.
So for the me the current state of most media is appalling for youngsters and just backwards. I hope at least in the next few years we can get a return to form in the world of media, video games and fiction.
What kind of martial arts do you teach?
@@mr.stickguy6841 A version of Kyokushin.
I'm working on a crime thriller novel about a female detective, who represents a multi-gender team of profilers (basically, they talk to her via earpiece and see through her camera glasses), working alongside police and forensic technicians to catch a serial killer. I think I'm overly conscious about accidentally denigrating men or women (the super-detective who cracks the case is a woman, her stalker is a man, a female computer analyst succeeds where her male predecessor failed). One of the main characters is a man who's clinically depressed by all the anti-male stuff in media, and his move from sullen hopelessness to anger is shown as positive growth (his character arc is essentially throwing off anti-male messaging).
Those four reasons are fair to think “is this denigrating both genders?” but I wouldn’t worry about it, I’d worry more about “how do I execute this?” Because those type of characters can be done well through good writing.
There’s nothing wrong with a female detective solving the big one. There’s plenty of female characters who solve big cases and mysteries like Veronica Mars, Clarice Starling, Nancy Drew, Enola Holmes, Daphne & Velma, etc. None of them did it without the help of others.
I’d have the analyst make sure not make the same mistakes her predecessor did. Also this is just me I’d give her predecessor a reason he failed his job like if he was really stressed out or something major that cost him his job.
Also your clinically depressed male character sounds like he has a lot of potential if what you say anger is a part of his growth. I’d have him become the man that most anti-male people like to ignore.
Edit: Again this is just me, you don’t have to do these things, you do what you do with your book.
Because they fear and hate strong, confident men.
Also Korean media is doing well right now. Train to Busan is focused on a male character who is flawed and selfish, putting business over work, but he grows past that to the point that the ending is downright something to cry at.
AC Origins was good? I played through it twice and I actually hated Bayek. As a parent I can get on board with his story and desire for revenge immediately but as a writer? There is no growth for him throughout the story, and he usually helps reluctantly, openly stating at one point that he didn't even want to be a Medjay. There is not enough growth in him for it to be believable that he founds the Assassins, not when he spent the entire game basically hating everything they stood for and only using them. I actually found him to be pretty annoying as a lead, with nothing to endear him to me beyond annoyance that he was the lead.
Still a great show though besides came from Korean
Man that show got hype on Philippines even though when it about zombies
Like western people did about zombies back then in 90s
From Venezuela here, I completely agree with this, I've seen it as well in the media I consume.
There really is an agenda under the NATO alliance
As a girl, i like that the entertainment industry has moved past the damsel in distress trope and seeing badass women onscreen is great. But “strong” female characters doing major stuff in a story without earning it feels stale. And i don’t like seeing female characters be nothing but a glorified trophy to save. I like media where there are well written male and female characters. Some of the characters i relate to the most are male and female ones. That’s part of the reason why some of my favourite pieces of media are chainsaw man, attack on titan and avatar the last airbender. How i feel about female characters must be how guys feel about male characters, but instead of a glorified trophy, it’s the “strong” female character’s punching bag.
Edit: also neon genesis evangelion and arcane
The Damsel in Distress conversation is always odd to me. Sure, there were some stories that portrayed a supposed "glorified trophy" but I'd argue that's not what women are even bothered by. Oftentimes, they just don't like
Most times the woman isn't even shown as inept, simply caught in unfortunate circumstances. The male hero usually saves other men in those same series, but that doesn't mean they downplayed them.
I'd argue women care less about being "glorified trophies" and more about not being as important or powerful in comparison. They don't want to ever be shown needing a man's help. Because the damsel thing is NEVER brought up when it's a woman saving a dude.
Modern women dislike the trope, but also want a man that would do those exact things for them irl. It was usually never abt a woman being "weak", but emphasizing the sacrifices a man would go through to protect a woman, something biologically innate in men.
There's nothing wrong with damsels in distress - the damsels were not shown to be stupid or incompetent, and many of them displayed courage even when held captive.
Let us rise and make our own stories or support those giving us GOOD and well written characters! Male and female
Nobody deserves to be talked down to or trashed because of something out of their control.
We must stand against these toxic stories, vote with your wallets and choice.
I think the one thing I dislike about Japanese media (such as video games and anime) is cool and interesting fantasy worlds almost always feature teenagers as the godslaying heroes going out on the epic adventures. Finding romance and developing as people. They will often act way mature and experienced for their age(atleast in terms of skills and abilities) and could easily be portrayed in their 20s or 30s and it would be more believeable.
I know why this is the case though. So I'd ask to be spared another justification for it.
I relate more with Nero from DMC5 as he's my age at 25 and is still on a journey to find himself. Nioh is also a good example with William being in his mid thirties yet goes on this epic adventure while also teaching alot of this typical time in Japan's history and religious beliefs.
But overall I lack an adventure, open world game which a cast of main characters my age doing the previously mentioned things. Final Fantasy XIV is a close contender, but I'd rather have these JRPGs feature it instead.
Sadly, the overall game I want dosen't exist yet. But maybe I should rant anymore on it.
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Nier did this too with the Western version. The devs thought that western audiences might not like a Teenage protag, so they changed it to an older man in his late 30s, early-mid 40s and instead of a little sister, the female primary support character was his daughter. It accomplished two things, it made the relationship between the two alot more heartfelt because of how hard the father was working to keep his child healthy and alive as opposed to a sibling, and it made his anger and actions later in the game alot more harsh as it wasn't an angry young man lashing out, but a pissed off father who would _move the world_ to save his child.
That's japanese culture for you. They put a lot of emphasis on character growth at a young age that's just how it is, and it has the advantage of creating characters actual teenagers can easily relate to, through both their power fantasy and their internal struggles.
Yes it's often silly but hey, at least they still put time and effort into creating their characters so it's definitely not all bad.
@@markopusic8258 Though it comes with the disadvantage of actual adults not being able to relate.
@@NorthWolf97 there's also a culture of remembering what it was to be young, not working etc. you've already gone through a lot of similar life expenience so it's not writing towards you. but much of these are marketed at kids and young adults who have the time. i find i don't play JRPG's because i simply don't have the time to do the grind any more. but i enjoy something like Dark souls because, it's grindy enough but the grind is based around skill and boss memorization.
there are still stuff for adults though. but you'll see it in older works. for manga and anime your probably going to want to watch Seinen stuff. which is targeted more for adult men.
at 30 it's hard to do a proper hero's journey without committing more to someone who's kinda already an expert in that field, especially in a culture which believes that you should already be well into your career at that point. this doesn't lead well to young upstart who goes to kill gods, rather when it's older media it's mid 20-mid 30's male who's already a badass or someone competent at their job. for example the Yakuza series follows someone highly competent already. if you wanted something light hearted wotokoi is more a rom com of japanese otaku who work in an office setting.
I thought I was the only one who notice this change.
From the get go I have been a social commentary channel, I am now embracing it. I will talk about Elden ring etc when there’s news. But I don’t want to limit myself to any one particular game or genre.
I hope you understand, plus this way it’s far more fulfilling for me. Thanks
That’s good for you man you keep doing what you love.
Demolition Man is a good dramatization of exactly the kind of problem you're referring to that will plague a theoretical future.
Absolutely this my dude. It’s good to see someone else who feels the same that’s not from specifically labeled social circles. I hope this video gets the traction it deserves.
As a woman i like strong male and female characters and I think we need more of them especially the strong male characters like Batman , Spider Man and Iron Man and I hate weak male characters like Fred from Velma who’s reduced to a punching bag and made fun of because he’s a man and he’s a jerk and I’m tired of seeing characters like him
I'm a woman and i had misty eyes by the end of your video. Thank you for this !!
Growing up as a girl on media that made me believe that the best I have to offer in a relationship is sex wasn't fun. It's sad that now people are flipping the table over to harm young boys instead... I think I just wish intellectual and objective opinions like these were more prominent before to shield me from the damaged idea I have of sex and intimacy... At this point all of this is just too tangled and messed up for anyone to enjoy any media...
Grate video mate, love how correct you are on how there's a hate movement in western media towards men, for the shake of hate. Said this we need strong male characters for the young kids as well as strong well written female characters, when a character main thing is that he is a female and its perfect without flaws he are portrying the same toxicity, we need well written character independent of their gender.
The fact anyone could look at what I am saying here & think I hate women is insane. Young boys need good representation too in media.
Otherwise you’ll end up with a bunch of incels who hate everything lol. Thanks for watching
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@@EndymionTv Creating incels is exactly what they want
I don't understand how you can't see that
@@Mr_Mistah The more hateful weak and confused men are made the happier some people get, it’s pathetic
I really agreed with this my favorite reputation of 2 genders personally are
From software games
Resident evil games
And silent Hill
They have good characters who do have flaws and show there strength and weaknesses
The title of this video did kind of worry me I'm glad I watched through because I completely agree.
Men and women should be equally matched not dumb men who are way to week and not female characters who depend on men
Strength should go both ways in every way.
It's not sexist for a man to win against a women via a women winning against a man that's just life. people lose people win it shouldn't be about the gender that shouldn't matter it should just be about the character itself and what there good or better at.
And we wonder why there is such a spike in young boys committing crimes these days.
Great message. It's disturbing how so much of modern "empowering women" comes at the expense of men. It really is not difficult to just uplift both sexes equally, and make both male anf female characters strong and capable yet also flawed and relatable. Because like, most people are exactly that.
This is perfect! You said everything that I've felt in the last few years. And when you mentioned Batman Begins, I was blown away that someone else loves that movie as much as me. And how you related Batman Begins to the human struggle was spot on. And I couldn't agree more that young boys need a hero. When I was very young Batman was my hero and it set the foundation for me wanting to be the good guy. Great video!
Asking an SJW to have an open mind is like asking your cat to fetch your newspaper for you.
Heh
It’s really sad how a lot of male characters are portrayed as either sexist, idiotic, or downright pathetic and inferior to female characters. I sometimes worry at some point in the future, it will be a female dominated world where men are looked down upon by women instead and portrayed as monsters who deserve to lose at life. The times where women are suppressed by men were terrible, but that is no excuse to just switch the roles so women can get payback. It just makes them no better or even worse than the men who discriminated against women.
Thank you so much for this video I really needed this…I know I’m a good man because I do work very hard my whole life and I’m grateful for the people that are apart of my…we do need more strong male characters because I tried of seeing us as useless..which is lame af…and my favorite fictional character that kind of shaped me in way was Goku lol and I could read a whole book about it
Why would a buy a product the creators repeatedly told me they hate me and that the product isn't meant for me?
Honestly, Mass Effect really handled the men and women thing sooooo well.
Because whether you played Male Shep or Female Shep, both characters were awesome to see, both characters were strong, empowered, capable, leaders. And the squadmates around you all had interesting stories and personalities, but were each strong in their own way. Tali spends the trilogy carrying the responsibility of serving her people on her shoulders. Garrus spends the trilogy trying to do as much good as he can, and owning up to the consequences when his actions don't pan out as he expected, Ashley tries to make her family proud by absolving the Williams name of the black mark that was brought on it by her grandfather, Wrex learns to look past his own pain and despair and becomes the leader his people desperately need, Liara finds her courage and confidence lives up to her mother's legacy of being an influential voice in Galactic politics, Thane learns to take responsibility for the choices of his life, and in his final days becomes the father he should always have been, and Mordin learns to accept his guilt for the Genophage work and in one final glorious moment, gives his life to atone for the monstrous act he did.
Each of these characters are not just men and women at their best. They're men and women who through the course of the story, rise up to become the best version of themselves. And its beautiful to see.
If you have weak men in a society obviously that society is much easier to control, conquer whatever. Simple as that.
Facts
I'm surprised you didn't bring up Cobra Kai on Netflix. It's pretty pro-male without diminishing the women in the show at all.
Isn't that a mids show
@@givemeliberty700 no
@@OperationSpider maybe I was informed wrong
They have become exactly like that which they attack. They do not want meaningful change, they only want to be the bully rather than eradicate bullies altogether
I'm so looking forwards to the Wolverine game
Me too I hope it’s dope
Also, in terms of domestic abuse: my uncle was abused by his wife for decades. She told him he was garbage, and he refused to ever fight back or defend himself whenever she got violent. Because he believed her.
I was born in the early 90s I saw the unrealistic standards for women and girls and starting standing up for them in my teens because I knew it was wrong , than in the 2010s I started seeing the inverse a massive spike in the stupid father figures in kid and teen shows.
I'm talking where the kids didn't respect their male role model to the point when the father gives solid advice than he immediately relapes back to his slap stick self because the show calls for it.
Its important to keep positive strong male roles like Marcus Fenix , Nathan drake around for men and boys as its important we keep strong female roles around like Kim possible and edalyn from owl house .
Yea I think Homer Simpson is one of the few executions of this trope that actually works because the show doesn’t just paint him as entirely worthless because well he can be selfish, rude and stupid he also has consistent good traits such as his kindness, loyalty and self acceptance plus it helps that he always tries to fix his mistakes
I’m also referring to the early seasons
Damn Kratos from God of War is such manly inspirational character, hes doing everything for his family, he has his past when he was overtaken by anger and his path to be great general with which he has to deal with, so he teaches his son to not do the same mistakes he did.
hes just an icon of pure manliness in my opinion
Make sense why he killed the entire geek Pantheon
ENDYMIONtv, you helped me to understand & to SEE for the first time in my 36 years of living that I believe my purpose was to defend and to protect…. And yet as a man I have nothing to defend OR to protect.
So that helps to explain why I struggle with depression while my deployments help me to understand my struggle with PDST.
Thank you for this realization
Fantastic video! I agree with everything you said and I just can't wrap my head around why western media continues to diminish men while asian media is running laps around them in terms of success. In my opinion, the best entertainment really comes from asia or japan to be more specific and their products are still as much fun as they always were.
Reading so many comments from women showing support for this is such a breath of fresh air. I appreciate you all.
I hope we as a whole can find a way to heal the wounds, to love and respect eachother going forward.
To the men who haven't been burned so bad they retreat into solitude for safety, the support and love of the women in our communities is a massive motivator to be better men. We need you on our side, and you need us on yours.
I think everyone is burnt out of this media cycle in general. It's so focused on turning groups of people against each other and that's not how people are in the real world. Of course there will always be hateful people, but media paints this as the rule, and not the exception and folks are waking up to this nonsense.
Somehow think kdrama ( korean drama ) have managed to balance the strength between men and women, ironically their society is very much the opposite.
They can have a very powerful women wearing her dress and fashion, with a male love interest. Even if the woman is strong they still don't just always push down on men. Meanwhile they show men having emotions and tears but still being a strong man. Same with the women who can be strong and emotional.
Same on anime romcom and drama
Asians have a clear grasp of feminine and masculine characteristics, which is why they know how to really write an impactful story about it without tarnishing those characteristics. At least that's what I notice from years of watching and consuming their media (books, videos, comics).
This topic is especially pertinent these days so thank you. Really glad I randomly stumbled onto this channel, really solid content.
My favorite strong male character which everyone loved in video game culture was Arthur Morgan from Red Dead Redemption. Teaching young men to stand up for what they believe but also being willing to change when our faces are brought to light, is something young men should certainly know.