That's about how it was. I served 20 years in the Marine Corps and two combat tours in Vietnam. The first tour as a machine gunner (0331) in 1965-66 and the second as a Platoon commander (0369) in 1970-71. I retired after 20 years and had a 30 year career as a California police officer ( Marin County). What I learned in the Marine Corps has helped me all my life. I highly recommend it to anyone needing direction and wishing to learn self discipline . Tom Boyte GySgt. USMC, retired Bronze Star, Purple Heart
Fun Fact: Bob Ross was a Drill Sargent in the Air Force, he said himself "I was Loud and Mean and make you clean the latrine" and he said he was done yelling and acting angry...
Tough, but with a needed result. Marines were the toughest, and best fighters. My dad was an officer in the Army on D-Day, at Normandy. He never talked-about what happened after setting foot on the beach. Only on the ship, and after reaching Paris(after promoted to Captain). After the war, he was assigned to be in charge of a war bride ship from England, to New York. He said many of the women were sea-sick, mainly because they were pregnant. From New York to Dallas, he was to make sure they left the train at the right city. After the war, he joined the Army Reserves and retired Lt. Col.(while working as a high school principal, with Doctorate of Education). Always kept his oath to never discuss classified info about his military duty. I admire him for that.
the late R. Lee Ermy was a real USMC drill instructor and was originally just hired as a military advisor for Stanley Kubrick. But after he gave a demonstration how a Marine D.I. acts, Kubrick wanted him to play the role of Gunnery Sgt Hartman
Every time i see the Parris Island barracks it nearly brings a tear to my eye. So many great men walked those halls. So many more will follow. My unit in Camp Lejeune had a few things signed by him in our command post, and at Parris Island i qualified on the same range as R Lee Ermey. He died the year after i got out of the Marines. For the record, this is pretty accurate. I remember seeing a kid get dropkicked about 12ft for falling asleep against one of those white pillars (stancheons) in the squadbay 😂 Semper Fi, brothers 🤙
I went thru basic in 1987, of course it wasn't as harsh as the Vietnam era but one problem I had was stifling laughter. Drill instructors are some of the funniest people I've ever run across
Don't know what's it like now but just the way it was in 1968. We recruits were thumped on a basis, as needed. We had one recruit in another platoon who attempted suicide. Didn’t succeed so our Drill Instructor Instructed on the correct way to commit suicide with our bayonets. Always instructing they were. The Marine Corps was on a war time footing. We were going to Vietnam where the fighting was violent and fierce. Anyone that froze or broke would put their mate's lives in extreme jeopardy. It was a strange time in America. Exactly one week after my unit's compound was half overrun (we beat them back and out), I was sitting in a community college classroom, briming with PTSD. Strange times indeed.
PT stands for Physical Training. And you would be surprised how painful it can get when forced to do for a long time. And yes, except for no longer being allowed to hit us, this was exactly what Parris Island was like in 1977. And yes it was designed to put pressure on every recruit. They had to know who couldn't handle it
This was Marine and Army boot camp reality in the 50's thru late 70's. GSgT. R.Lee Ermy was the perfect choice for the drill instructor in this. This was his world until he retired fron the Corps.
military drill instructors are always purposefully harsh, loud, and relentless - even brutal at times - in order to create a high-pressure, high-stress environment that will prepare raw recruits for the unforgiving reality of the battlefield. If these young men cannot stand up to the stress of military training, they will not survive in combat, the ultimate high-stress situation, with life and death on the line. And if Leonard had had his breakdown in a combat situation, the outcome could have been much worse for all of his comrades… (PT stands for “physical training” - a regimen of rigorous physical exercise designed to get the recruits into tiptop condition so that they can better withstand the hardship and demands of combat.)
I have heard (Though I don't know how True it is) that back then if you didn't make it through Marine training you would quietly vanish one night and receive a round through the head. Is this true? -In any event, Thank You for your service.
For those who don't know, "Gomer Pyle" was a sitcom (1964-1969) starred Jim Nabors in the titular role as a good-hearted bumbling marine living all kind of misadventures in the army. And, once again, it's fascinating check how all the laughs are cut when Hartman torments Private Gomer Pyle. It's not the same we see how somebody is bullied in a physical way, isn't it? This movie is a masterpiece at all levels. Kubrick was a genius.
I offer a short side note that was not shown in the movie: Just to keep the intensity as high as possible they would rotate D. I.s every four hours or so. Just before the current D.I would run out of steam they would bring in a fresh one all rested and ready to go. This was 24/7. If you are going to crack, it's better to do so in basic training than on the battle field. This is true to form as I remember Vietnam era basic training.
I served in the Marine Corps and the answer to one man's question is, yes, Marine Corps basic training IS REALLY like that. I served in Korea and Vietnam, and I have to say that this movie was pretty realistic in many aspects.
I'd say it was pretty close for the time. I wasn't there until 82, and it was common for the D.I. to yell at you with the brim of his campaign cover (hat) touching your forehead. Would have been more effective on me if they were better than my dad at it.
My father who was in the Marines in the 50’s I think he went in in 52 got out in 57 said he saw corporal punishment on quite a few occasions. He said the one that sticks in his mind the most was when a recruit just off to the side but in his peripheral arc got popped in the nose by a DI with a dirty rifle but. He said helmet and blood went flying. Drew him in with what is this get a good look so this doesn’t happen again pop in the nose.
This is how it was during the time this movie is portraying. I entered the Arny in the late eighties at that time they had made rules that stopped drills from hitting you. So they used crushing amounts of physical exercise while telling everyone who was responsible. This usually led to recruits taking physical action against the offending parties
I enlisted in '83...they were still hitting us and dogging us. We had a guy that was almost 7' in our company, and he was a constant problem. We went to the field, and I saw 3 drill sergeants (or instructors) drag his ass into the woods. I don't know what they did to him, but he was a model soldier following that. We were eating C-rations when in the field, not MRE's. Good old Coffee, Instant, Type II. lol
This is what it was like back when the instructors could dish it out and the recruits could and had to take it. No demanding that others call them by certain words. No complaining about someone insulting you. Guess what? You are being trained to go to war and have the best chance of coming back alive. The enemy doesn't care about your pronouns. They are trying to do way worse than insult you. It taught you to be tough and be able to take orders to achieve a goal. Goals like getting your platoon or squad back to base. Not about teaching you to feel like you deserved special treatment or recognition because you think you deserve a trophy just for being you.
Then Forrest Gump walks in and says me and Drill sgt are like peas and carrots. Then Bubba opens his trunk has and Shrimp cocktail, at least is not a jelly donut
It was definitely not funny at the time. But now as I look back I get misty-eyed. I remember you Senior Drill Instructor, SSgt Kelly and Drill Instructors SSgt Kane and SSgt Thomas. I didn't realize how well you prepared me.
Didn't pick up on this initially, and maybe it was obvious, but given what we learn about Joker's character throughout, it's likely he's trying to draw the ire away from Snowball after that comment rather than just being a smartass (or dumbass).
I love how people watch movies like this that revolve around war and think its gonna be all butterflies and be like family friendly/pg13 💀 Like bruh did you not see the bio or the cover? Ofc it's gonna have sensitive topics and/or moments
This movie is why i didnt go to the military. As soon as he hit me i would of been on him like fat kid with a cupcake. Ild of lost it. Ild black out and come to with blood all over me and in big trouble.
The two things I found unrealistic. 1 Pvt joker saying is this you. - Nobody was insane enough to speak 2 Pyle silly grin - Wasn't nothing in bootcamp to grin at.
Ahhhh, the good old days of film. This movie spawned an entire generation of 80's high school d-bags and bullies chock full of fresh insults to emulate. I don't think Hollywood could make this movie today. I'm sure the sensitivity coach would have a stroke. From what I've heard from my Vietnam Vet father, this was accurate for the Vietnam era. My retired Marine Corps Sgt son in-law tells me it's not even remotely close to this experience anymore.
In 1980s boot camp, I witnessed and experienced harder corporal punishment than what is shown here. There were strict rules already in place since the 1950s Parris Island death march debacle. Marines don't always follow the rules. One D.I. threw some boots at my bare feet and knocked off my big toenail for one example.
People aren't softer. That's just something every generation says about the next one. Things are just different, with different challenges. R. Lee Ermey even said that Gunnery Sergeant Hartman was a terrible D.I. A good D.I. would have been able to tell that Pyle was going over the edge.
I went through Basic Training in 1989. Drill sergeants quoted this movie a lot. That being said, this scene is hilarious. If you can't laugh at those insults, you wouldn't make it in the military.
That's how it was in 1982. Ronald Reagan was President and we thought we were going to war with the USSR. We probably should have and taken care of it then.
If this is the reactions of the modern generation we are all screwed as a country, the first time we all saw this we were rolling on the floor laughing. None of us were shocked at all, this was normal back in the early days, they wanted you to become a hardened soldier, not a panty waist pronoun.
I like fried chicken and watermelon, I must be black. Come to think of it Watermelon is delicious and the only thing that compares to it is honeydew melon juice mixed with lime juice. Its like drinking candy.
R.I.P. GSgt R.Lee Ermey. Semper Fi
👍 straight US Marine Corps! He did that for a living for real. I have friends who trained at Paris Island. This if hot fake. they want killers.
That's about how it was. I served 20 years in the Marine Corps and two combat tours in Vietnam. The first tour as a machine gunner (0331) in 1965-66 and the second as a Platoon commander (0369) in 1970-71. I retired after 20 years and had a 30 year career as a California police officer ( Marin County). What I learned in the Marine Corps has helped me all my life. I highly recommend it to anyone needing direction and wishing to learn self discipline .
Tom Boyte
GySgt. USMC, retired
Bronze Star, Purple Heart
Bless your heart jarhead
RAH, I love and hate my Marines.
Thank you for your service.
Thank you, Sir.
Thankyou you scroungey little fuck😂
He’s not acting..
That a regular day for him..
Fun Fact: Bob Ross was a Drill Sargent in the Air Force, he said himself "I was Loud and Mean and make you clean the latrine" and he said he was done yelling and acting angry...
Tough, but with a needed result. Marines were the toughest, and best fighters. My dad was an officer in the Army on D-Day, at Normandy. He never talked-about what happened after setting foot on the beach. Only on the ship, and after reaching Paris(after promoted to Captain). After the war, he was assigned to be in charge of a war bride ship from England, to New York. He said many of the women were sea-sick, mainly because they were pregnant. From New York to Dallas, he was to make sure they left the train at the right city. After the war, he joined the Army Reserves and retired Lt. Col.(while working as a high school principal, with Doctorate of Education). Always kept his oath to never discuss classified info about his military duty. I admire him for that.
the late R. Lee Ermy was a real USMC drill instructor and was originally just hired as a military advisor for Stanley Kubrick. But after he gave a demonstration how a Marine D.I. acts, Kubrick wanted him to play the role of Gunnery Sgt Hartman
The chopper gunner was the guy originally cast as Sgt. Hartman
This is 1960s vietnam Marine Corps, yes this is what it was like
Agree.That drill instructor.Was an actual drill instructor in the marines.
Exactly as it was in boot. No holding back. We were preparing to go to war. Four of my boot platoon didn't make it back.
Every time i see the Parris Island barracks it nearly brings a tear to my eye. So many great men walked those halls. So many more will follow. My unit in Camp Lejeune had a few things signed by him in our command post, and at Parris Island i qualified on the same range as R Lee Ermey. He died the year after i got out of the Marines. For the record, this is pretty accurate. I remember seeing a kid get dropkicked about 12ft for falling asleep against one of those white pillars (stancheons) in the squadbay 😂 Semper Fi, brothers 🤙
I went thru basic in 1987, of course it wasn't as harsh as the Vietnam era but one problem I had was stifling laughter. Drill instructors are some of the funniest people I've ever run across
Thanks for including me. Keep it up. Best part of the movie.
This is a very accurate depiction of Parris island boot camp in the '60's.
"... how tall are you ... .5'9" ...... i didn't know they stack shit that high... " ........ always makes me laugh
That joke is so so old.
Don't know what's it like now but just the way it was in 1968. We recruits were thumped on a basis, as needed. We had one recruit in another platoon who attempted suicide. Didn’t succeed so our Drill Instructor Instructed on the correct way to commit suicide with our bayonets. Always instructing they were.
The Marine Corps was on a war time footing. We were going to Vietnam where the fighting was violent and fierce. Anyone that froze or broke would put their mate's lives in extreme jeopardy.
It was a strange time in America. Exactly one week after my unit's compound was half overrun (we beat them back and out), I was sitting in a community college classroom, briming with PTSD.
Strange times indeed.
PT stands for Physical Training. And you would be surprised how painful it can get when forced to do for a long time. And yes, except for no longer being allowed to hit us, this was exactly what Parris Island was like in 1977. And yes it was designed to put pressure on every recruit. They had to know who couldn't handle it
As Navy Hospital Corpsman stationed at MCRD San Diego in the early 80s this was the norm
This was Marine and Army boot camp reality in the 50's thru late 70's. GSgT. R.Lee Ermy was the perfect choice for the drill instructor in this. This was his world until he retired fron the Corps.
"You're so ugly you could be a modern art masterpiece!"...a true insults connoisseur can undermine something else simultaneously for no reason!
military drill instructors are always purposefully harsh, loud, and relentless - even brutal at times - in order to create a high-pressure, high-stress environment that will prepare raw recruits for the unforgiving reality of the battlefield. If these young men cannot stand up to the stress of military training, they will not survive in combat, the ultimate high-stress situation, with life and death on the line. And if Leonard had had his breakdown in a combat situation, the outcome could have been much worse for all of his comrades… (PT stands for “physical training” - a regimen of rigorous physical exercise designed to get the recruits into tiptop condition so that they can better withstand the hardship and demands of combat.)
Yes kids, it was really like this. Although I doubt most DI's were as entertaining as R. Lee Ermey. This performance is magnificent.
“YOU DON’T SCARE ME! WORK ON IT.”
Love how he’s still bellowing the “work on it” but it doesn’t sound like an exclamation point.
Oh shit Hartman is intense, not sure if younglings are ready
I went in the Corps in '66. It was worst than this.
I have heard (Though I don't know how True it is) that back then if you didn't make it through Marine training you would quietly vanish one night and receive a round through the head. Is this true? -In any event, Thank You for your service.
@@dokidaddy1056 No.
For those who don't know, "Gomer Pyle" was a sitcom (1964-1969) starred Jim Nabors in the titular role as a good-hearted bumbling marine living all kind of misadventures in the army. And, once again, it's fascinating check how all the laughs are cut when Hartman torments Private Gomer Pyle. It's not the same we see how somebody is bullied in a physical way, isn't it? This movie is a masterpiece at all levels. Kubrick was a genius.
I offer a short side note that was not shown in the movie: Just to keep the intensity as high as possible they would rotate D. I.s every four hours or so. Just before the current D.I would run out of steam they would bring in a fresh one all rested and ready to go. This was 24/7. If you are going to crack, it's better to do so in basic training than on the battle field.
This is true to form as I remember Vietnam era basic training.
I served in the Marine Corps and the answer to one man's question is, yes, Marine Corps basic training IS REALLY like that. I served in Korea and Vietnam, and I have to say that this movie was pretty realistic in many aspects.
Chrissie got some gifts! 😍
I'd say it was pretty close for the time. I wasn't there until 82, and it was common for the D.I. to yell at you with the brim of his campaign cover (hat) touching your forehead. Would have been more effective on me if they were better than my dad at it.
It's not like this anymore, but this is absolutely accurate for the Vietnam era. Corporal punishment was still used in the 1960's and 1970's.
My father who was in the Marines in the 50’s I think he went in in 52 got out in 57 said he saw corporal punishment on quite a few occasions. He said the one that sticks in his mind the most was when a recruit just off to the side but in his peripheral arc got popped in the nose by a DI with a dirty rifle but. He said helmet and blood went flying. Drew him in with what is this get a good look so this doesn’t happen again pop in the nose.
He did a interview for a show about Sargents, he said groups were bigger and they cut 4 weeks off and finished them 6 weeks.
Dawn. PT is Physical Training
This is how it was during the time this movie is portraying. I entered the Arny in the late eighties at that time they had made rules that stopped drills from hitting you. So they used crushing amounts of physical exercise while telling everyone who was responsible. This usually led to recruits taking physical action against the offending parties
I enlisted in '83...they were still hitting us and dogging us. We had a guy that was almost 7' in our company, and he was a constant problem. We went to the field, and I saw 3 drill sergeants (or instructors) drag his ass into the woods. I don't know what they did to him, but he was a model soldier following that. We were eating C-rations when in the field, not MRE's. Good old Coffee, Instant, Type II. lol
This is what it was like back when the instructors could dish it out and the recruits could and had to take it. No demanding that others call them by certain words. No complaining about someone insulting you. Guess what? You are being trained to go to war and have the best chance of coming back alive. The enemy doesn't care about your pronouns. They are trying to do way worse than insult you. It taught you to be tough and be able to take orders to achieve a goal. Goals like getting your platoon or squad back to base. Not about teaching you to feel like you deserved special treatment or recognition because you think you deserve a trophy just for being you.
This ain't the Boy Scouts or Summer Camp, folks..
Someone could say Sgt. Hartman was putting them on the test.
Truth Pvt. Joker was putting him on the test, as he's clearly the leader of this platoon.
Then Forrest Gump walks in and says me and Drill sgt are like peas and carrots. Then Bubba opens his trunk has and Shrimp cocktail, at least is not a jelly donut
If you graduated from Parris Island this movie is a comedy..Semper Fidelis.
It was definitely not funny at the time. But now as I look back I get misty-eyed. I remember you Senior Drill Instructor, SSgt Kelly and Drill Instructors SSgt Kane and SSgt Thomas. I didn't realize how well you prepared me.
Didn't pick up on this initially, and maybe it was obvious, but given what we learn about Joker's character throughout, it's likely he's trying to draw the ire away from Snowball after that comment rather than just being a smartass (or dumbass).
I still can't believe this movie was the one thing that inspired my brother to join the military.
The is Brutal.
Yeah. It's exactly like that.
To answer the Scottish ladies question PT = Physical Training.
I love how people watch movies like this that revolve around war and think its gonna be all butterflies and be like family friendly/pg13 💀
Like bruh did you not see the bio or the cover? Ofc it's gonna have sensitive topics and/or moments
Censoring the word “Greasers” is carrying sensitivity too far.
Has anyone ever _actually_ shit a Tiffany cufflink? 😁
Without a doubt it's been done. They didn't make it themselves but it got there somehow.
R.LEE .ERMY was a real Di., he was originally hired to advise the actors. This is how it was in boot camp. Now you cant touch the moots.....
Until joker got punched, he didn't really understand where he had landed or where he was headed. He's that guy trying to ice-skate uphill!
Blade quote
This is accurate for the Vietnam era in the 1960s
Except, imagine several DIs at the same time.
If you ain't got the stones to deal with the psycological torment... which isn't much, you can't handle the physical hardship. That's the point.
The real Gomer Pyle was just like the one here - a goofy dude with a goofy grin while getting screamed at by Sgt. Carter. lol
PT physical training !
One of the best movies of all time
This movie is why i didnt go to the military. As soon as he hit me i would of been on him like fat kid with a cupcake. Ild of lost it. Ild black out and come to with blood all over me and in big trouble.
They actually are not allowed to get physical with them.
How warm and tender...
The two things I found unrealistic.
1 Pvt joker saying is this you. - Nobody was insane enough to speak
2 Pyle silly grin - Wasn't nothing in bootcamp to grin at.
Two things you haven't encountered yet:
A so-called rebell & a complete fool
Hey Naveed!
He was a real drill sergeant every one calls him gunny
"You don't scare me! Work on it!"
Ahhhh, the good old days of film. This movie spawned an entire generation of 80's high school d-bags and bullies chock full of fresh insults to emulate. I don't think Hollywood could make this movie today. I'm sure the sensitivity coach would have a stroke. From what I've heard from my Vietnam Vet father, this was accurate for the Vietnam era. My retired Marine Corps Sgt son in-law tells me it's not even remotely close to this experience anymore.
I like these reactions.
Well, the Lawrence of Arabia joke was funny though.
Los gringos tienen un trauma con la letra N 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This was the 60's and by your reactions you reaffirm just how soft people are these days.
In 1980s boot camp, I witnessed and experienced harder corporal punishment than what is shown here. There were strict rules already in place since the 1950s Parris Island death march debacle. Marines don't always follow the rules. One D.I. threw some boots at my bare feet and knocked off my big toenail for one example.
People aren't softer. That's just something every generation says about the next one. Things are just different, with different challenges. R. Lee Ermey even said that Gunnery Sergeant Hartman was a terrible D.I. A good D.I. would have been able to tell that Pyle was going over the edge.
Ignorant comment. 99.9% of Americans couldn't go thru this training no matter the generation.
@Nightwatchman53 Don't worry softy nobody's gonna be relying on you
The entire point of bootcamp was to break you completely as an individual and then rebuild you as a unit.
The foreshadow of Sgt Hartman telling Gomer Pyle, "I will definitely eff you up.".....
war face is used when they practice bayonet attack
4.20.
......its worse
as usual, a few normal people plus woke children
What's Naveed doing in the corner??
they don't makes movies like this no more
A estupidez de quem está a reagir e a rir é gritante, é isto quem passa por uma Elite na tropa.
I went through Basic Training in 1989. Drill sergeants quoted this movie a lot. That being said, this scene is hilarious. If you can't laugh at those insults, you wouldn't make it in the military.
Son wokes
lazy commicials no thanks , get a job bumms.
I hate this movie again because worst movie ever
Pussy
That's how it was in 1982. Ronald Reagan was President and we thought we were going to war with the USSR. We probably should have and taken care of it then.
If this is the reactions of the modern generation we are all screwed as a country, the first time we all saw this we were rolling on the floor laughing. None of us were shocked at all, this was normal back in the early days, they wanted you to become a hardened soldier, not a panty waist pronoun.
PT = Physical Training.
Homer Pyle was a dumb marine in a TV show funny show
I like fried chicken and watermelon, I must be black. Come to think of it Watermelon is delicious and the only thing that compares to it is honeydew melon juice mixed with lime juice. Its like drinking candy.