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Star Trek Discovery: S4 E13 Starfleet Command at Warp
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I love how unconditional the federation is about protecting life and people. Even after being turned away by the people of earth and forced to reside planetless in space, the Federation rushes to the aid of Earth when it becomes endangered. No wonder Earth was so willing to rejoin after such an unconditional display of comradery.
It's earth not some backwards alien planet. Of course Starfleet would come to its aid. Nearly all Starfleet officers are humans.
@@gabelogan5877 Given the hybridization going on by this time, it'd probably be more accurate to say most Starfleet officers are nearly human.
Well, they had no other choice. It's Earth.
It's Earth. Founding member of the Federation and Starfleet. Of course Starfleet is coming for help.
@@Vestat1 of course they had a choice. Earth Fedexited the UFP when the UFP needed it most. And Earth's defence forces even turned its guns on Discovery the first time they showed up.
This is Starfleet at its finest. Earth broke away. Nivar broke away. Starfleet owes them nothing, yet they will risk everything to save who they can or die trying.
IMO, if ANYONE was going to be the sole believer of the four founding races, it very well SHOULD have been Earth and not Tellar.
For god’s sake Humans brought the other three together in peace where before they were neutral at best with each other.
I give crap to fans who give Discovery hate for no reason. But in this instance, I agree with the Fans. Terrible idea by the writers to make Earth leave the Federation.
Although, I do have to laugh at the fact that for all the talk of Earth being the sole thing that is keeping the Federation from being Crippled, earth left the Federation and yet said Federation was not crippled in the way that it was through the burn.
this is star trek at its worst. Utter gutter trash.
@@jeremydale4548I think they chose earth to make a point though, it's the founding member that was in greatest support of the Federation's ideals and it chose to leave. That shows how dire the situation is. It's not as impactful to viewers if they say tellar left. Also in the later years before the Burn Earth had probably diminished in importance due to the Federation's growth
@@keyboardt8276also, the point is that humanity is always capable of being stupid beyond reason.
@@frasierfreak92I highly doubt the showrunners had that intention
The idea to have a station be warp capable is a really smart thing to do in light of the burn. With most stations destroyed when the burn hit it would make sense to build stations close to home and have them warp to their destination with crew already on board instead of wasting dilithium and what few ships they had shuffling materials to and from the station site. Really well done world building
Definitely wanting to see the specs of this starbase, but can't find them on Memory Alpha or Memory Beta
Why would space stations have been destroyed? The burn destroyed ships in warp, not ships outside warp and not bases.
@@korpiz You don't understand the scope of the Destruction the ship or star base, did not have to be in warp remember the warp core or power generation of a starbase (would assume dilithun been used) is always active even when it's idle providing primary power to ship systems (its not off)
only power cores/warp cores that was actually off (no matter/antimatter running) and was running on Alternative power like fusion power or other non dilithun and based power generators did not explode
when the dilithun became Inert it was basically a rock pumping antimatter into it resulting in matter/antimatter Explosion instantly
unfortunately ships and stations don't have or unable to contain it with shields
even if they could that type of system would only be active for an expected Explosion due to the power Draw to maintain a shield of that type even then it would have to be a directional shield where the blast is directed outside of the ship as there's no way you could contain an explosion like that (it would permanently disable the ship but only people in Engineering would die if they was inside the explosion containment shield)
As far as i am aware this may have been universe's wide as it was not explained if there was a limit on how far the destruction when he screamed
@@korpiz If the station was on the move, or even just powered up, it would have been vulnerable to the Burn.
@@7thsealord888 If it had been built at the time... Starfleet HQ was moved AFTER the Burn because it made earth too much of a target. For the same reason, having an HQ Starbase capable of Warp travel just makes sense.
"Looks like a damn snow globe in space just waitin to break" Leonard McCoy,
Definitely one of the best scenes of the show.
When I saw this, I was reminded of Atlantis in Stargate, in which the city was also a ship, capable of traveling in hyperspace. I think the writers got some inspiration from Stargate.
Ripped off, you mean.
@@travisfoster1071 then did Stargate writers “rip off” the work of Hugo Gernsback and the countless other writers and artists depicting flying cities. Nothing wrong taking inspiration.
My first thought too!!
@@backupplan6058 doesn't matter because the whole discovery series is shit
I mean they took the HQ off earth and built a station. It'd have to go the warp otherwise it would take the station too long to get away from the planet.
The starbase at warp is so frickin cool
This show had great potential, like this. I really love the visual effects on Discovery
They just had to hire one decent writer and it could have been ok.
No it didn’t
@@rekrn12345 That and not make the series about Michael "Burn"ham.
Omg I just noticed it, it’s the shape of a probability field lol ! nice 👌🏽
It was truly dire that even Starfleet who has always been in hiding all this time even returns to earth
The hiding was over at this point I believe
Like the City of Atlantis from Stargate Atlantis show!
I thought just that. I have no doubt that the Discovery writers had some inspiration from this.
@@jeand5316 please note: in a ds nine episode , chief obrien got the station under its own power using a field and its own thrusters , not warp but able to move none the less.
I knew it, I figured headquarters was capable of going to warp.
No matter how many times I watch this, my mind simply can’t wrap itself around the matter that they’ve reached a point in technology where entire chunks of space stations and theoretically starships can simply detach and sod off. Makes me wonder why they bother with the elaborate design if all they need is a Borg Cube shaped vessel.
Because cubes are boring
@@langm1701 And THAT'S on periodt.
Probably limitations in generating a warp field without nacelles. Detached or not.
'detach and sod off' LOL
You just answered your own question. And remember this is a whole lot of years in the future than what you're talking about in terms of elaborate design.
i LOVED this scene, and the CGI mmm
I find it odd that all the other species "evolved" such as Ferengi with new funky looks but humanity evolved into... Oded Fehr
Ardeth Bay, The Medjai seems to be Immortal.... :P
There was actually a TNG episode that addressed this. Life was seeded in the galaxy by these suprime beings, and therefor a majority of the races in Star Trek follow the same 2 arms 2 legs, 2 eyes, 2 ears, nose, mouth format. Pretty good writing imo. Its episode 20 of season 6 of TNG
@@FoolOverride I was more referring to how "ugly" the Ferengi became in the 32nd century while humans got "handsome" LOL
@@BarnyardEngineering your right they do be kinda gross
@@BarnyardEngineering Going to have to say that those probably look VERY handsome for Ferengi. On the scale of 1,000 years, I'm going to bet that Sexual Selection is the primary winner here.
Still can't believe they use voyager and the enterprise E's red alert for starfleet HQ
Tradition and honor to ages past, perhaps.
Hell yes!
I don't know why but this is genius and also very funny
Admiral:Why would we need a star base to go at warp
Random commander: I don’t know but we can do it
Admiral: OK you can do it I just seen a purpose
*Evacuation of Earth happening*
Random commander: I told you see, look how helpful this is
And that his how Federation headquarters was able to go to warp
Or per what's actually shown... The HQ when we see it is all the way out in the middle of nowhere, & on top of that is cloaked. They were obviously putting high value in being undetected. Being able to move the station is a no-brainer with those pre-established elements.
@@Rocksteady72a I find it interesting how each deck can go to warp independently. Meaning each deck of Federation HQ has its own integrated warp cores. I assume the no-nacelle aproach is inneficient compared to dedicated warp nacelles, but good enough for things like these.
@@Timeward76 Either they’re inefficient or they’ll never financially recover from those burned-out warp cores.
@@Rocksteady72a well, I'm guessing deck separation is only a thing for emergencies like these, so a less efficient no-nacelle solution is acceptable given its not used all the time.
@@Timeward76 It was a joke lol. Ofc that makes sense
Jesus Kirk and Saturn class are really that big !
I have to admit, I know 450,000 is alot to loose on Earth if the first contact failed, but my days that is alot of people off world that fast...
I've seen on another video someone moaning about how innefective this methods seems, and at the time I reminonded them of the bigger on the inside technology around in this time period, but noticing that, based on what has been said before I think there is something like 10-15 billion people on earth by this point, I could be mistaken though, but nevertheless either way that is an insane amount of people to get off world in that relatively short period of time...
I think you or they got it wrong, they can only save 450k people alongside titan's population, the rest billions left is going to die.
I used a subtitle just to clarify that because i also thought only 450k will be left to die but no, that's the amount of people they can only save
@@kyt895 Makes you wonder how many could have been evacuated if the Federation and Starfleet were at their peak (pre-Burn)? ST:Picard showed that Starfleet had the resources then to build a fleet to evacuate Romulus (which would’ve been a massive undertaking). Unfortunately that fleet was sabotaged and the whole shipyard (along with Mars) was decimated.
That's not the number he said would be lost. That's all they can SAVE...best case.
There’s no evidence of bigger on the inside tech in Disco, I think the tech isn’t really used or got banned alongside the temporal wars, otherwise they probably would’ve been able to save more…
@@Altenarian In the season 3 finale, there are several scenes that show a HUGE room full of turbolifts inside the Discovery.
Seeing ESD warp home to earth was epicccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc
So if they beam up people from earth to escape, why can’t they just store people in the transporter buffer? They could fit tons more people just carrying them as energy.
Because they don’t have enough transporter buffer space, and buffer signals can degrade.
Or in a big enough computer. Donna Noble has been saved.
There are billions of people on Earth. There's no way to fit all those people in pattern buffers.
Considering that they only got Dilithium to work in the last 6 months and retrofit the space station....
It looks like the station travelling at slipstream
Saving any is better than none
Given that this space station was built during an age of incredible dilithium scarcity, I find it incredibly suspect that they would design and build the thing to be warp-capable. It would be too expensive to build, power, and maintain. I could see doing so as a display of wealth and power to other factions, but they kept the thing hidden up until five minutes before.
If memory serves, the station was built before the Burn, when the Federation was at its zenith. Besides that, with Starfleet so weakened, having a mobile headquarters is very much a necessity. They couldn't be sure of defending a stationary target.
Cause it's not actually a space station. It's a starship, the USS Federation. "Pax"-class, registry NCC-325002
Huh. Never saw a ribbon in hyperspace before. Was that the Millennium Falcon they passed in there?
Makes me wonder if any consideration was done with storing people in the transporter buffer of the ships. Seen it done on previous star trek series. Even Star Trek: Strange New Worlds. By now the transporter technology would be very robust.
Do Starfleet still retain Tardis Bigger on the inside tech????
Yup.
Can't Kurtzman without the Elevator Subspace
What a cool scene. I loved the tech in Discovery. Also Tilly totally rocks, Mary Wiseman is an amazing actress!
Was that Quarter Impulse, Half Impulse, or Full Impulse Speed?
Why aren't they utilizing trans-warp drive more often in this time era??? Trans-warp should be as common as replicators especially nearly a thousand years into the future.
Trans Warp conduits are full of wreckage from some federation ships, idk if are from the burn or from a war but they are dangerous to be used by ships without transformation capacity.
They invented transwarp and now they just call it regular warp I guess
It looks like it was designed by the toilet brush division of Ikea
It’s modeled after a quantum wave function, which is unquestionably something that would be IMMEDIATELY visually recognizable to any and all warp-capable species.
Speed big bang
its so funny. theres two different youtube videos of this clip. this one is full of comments saying how much they like the show. The other one's comments are all about how much they hate the show
Time to break out the cheesecake😮
Ah so they took the mobile headquarters idea from Battlestar Galactica
You would think someone would have developed a way to warp planets
Don't worry, magic space jesus, the center of everything, will save everyone. Then we can get back to the important things, like crying and hugging.
31st century rocks
It is this species number 6 from the right in this video ☺
This is Orville in LSD
I have watched all episodes in ST DIS and I know there is a species named Tellerite on board the Federation HD ship who is a cadet name Taahz Gorev, but in this videoclip I notice another species not human with flippy ears or something, what species is that?
Could you make the video any choppier?
The days of Kirk saying “…One God is sufficient for Us…” are long gone. Unless there should be a Miracle.
This series had the highest star trek budget ever, but the story and plot was written high schoolers. Woke destroyed Star Trek.
It wasn't woke it was populist scifi writing.
And yes it was terrible
Save us again oh Space Jesu--I mean Michael
Obesity in the 32nd century?
Lag, lag, lag...
You'd think in the 31st century they would have cured obesity by then.. lookin at you Tilly!
So you’re telling me…in the time periods where the whole galaxy was short on dilithium crystals and federation had dwindled in reach, they decided to build a station where there are multiple independent sections where they each have individual warp engines…how much dilithium crystals did that take?…
I hate everything about this. This is not Star Tret. This is not a modern series.
The channels making fun of this show get more subs and engagement.
Yep. Anger generates more engagement, and that engagement fuels the mentality that "well we must be right then, look at all the views!", and that stupidity fuels the stigma Discovery has, despite most of the complaints levied against it being a things left behind in season 1.
yeah than the show at this point. Season 4 was worse than 3, at least SNW is doing okay for new Trek.
@@theharbingerofconflation "okay" lmao. Even when Star Trek does almost-objectively good, people have a hard time admitting it, apparently
@@Rocksteady72a objectively good? I just said SNW is doing decent? Disco is just flat out bad writing. Tell me what Disco does good in S4 please.
@@theharbingerofconflation Tell me where I was talking about Disco?
Why does the space station look like an uneven kitchen utensil??? Design is terrible.
I would guess volcan made it
It’s designed to look like a probability wave
It’s pretty cool
If you took the time to notice, it's shaped that way to achieve maximum warp efficiency, as those little spring looking parts are shaped similarly to the warp field itself. It's also useful for creating better shields too.
Also notice that if you spin the ship in circles very quickly, it can provide some cover over the HQ body.
@@10054 Incorrect. Voyager already solved that with the variable-geometry warp nacelles a thousand years earlier. They didn't need spindles or whatever this is. As for the station itself, the existence of shields negates any need for rotating protection. It was never needed before. Definitely don't need it a millenia in the future.
Its just an ugly design. Swing and a miss. Sometimes it happens in Star Trek. We peaked at the Sovereign Class as far as good looking Trek designs go. Moving on.
@@nobody-wk6ej I like the design, and you're in the minority on specifically just this. End of story, moving on.
what garbage this franchise has become
then don't watch lol
@@markandredulay7818 very intelligent comment to critique. But no wonder about a generation, who calls a rape-porn Show a blockbuster
Star Trek must evolve or become stagnant.
@@teslahertz4916 I love how you just belittled them for saying, "don't watch," and sarcastically calling it intelligent, yet you, yourself didn't do anything remotely intelligent than copy and paste someone else's opinion on the show.
It's closer to the point to call it the fanbase becoming toxic garbage.
The series turned to soap opera.....
Have you seen modern media, it's all this new crop of the low-rent writers know.
It's also all studios will fund, as it may be trash but they know it will work on enough people to get multiple seasons out of a project.
Basically, the Hollywood system is geared to trash. Always has been. Something good slips through the cracks every now and then, but studios have become so risk averse because of the instant feedback of social media that now they almost always "play it safe".
So, that's why we get endless dramas and police procedurals (though thise have become "risky" lately as well because American Cops are generally assholes)
Like Star Wars wasn't space opera.
Starfleet is a joke. Just saying
This is cheesy and dumb, I am sorry. It’s so obvious
machines and tactics that work usually are, thats why theyre designed and used as such. Car steering wheels being functionally round is also cheesy, obvious, downright simplistic. Hence their universl use. But I gather you have a different story element and scene in mind in place of this. Lay it out for us.
How is it dumb to make HQ warp capable? Isn't more dumb to make it unable to go warp with all those technological advancements they've made...
Things have changed in 900 years. Things don't stay the same.
Worst Trek of all time !