The Knicks Won the OG Anunoby Trade
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ม.ค. 2024
- The Knicks are now 2-0 since trading for OG Anunoby. But some Knicks fans and a lot of the NBA community are saying the team got fleeced. All because they let RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley go. I think that's INSANE because the Knicks put themselves a step closer to being a championship team with this trade.
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The trade wasn't centered around RJ from a raptors perspective it was centered around Quickley. Both teams won the trade so far.
I don’t think the Raptors lost this, I was talking about the Knicks side. But I guess saying a team won a trade usually implies someone lost (I agree both won)
@@FastbreakFrequency i am happy for IQ because he was just playing In the shadow of JB.i am not saying you hate RJ.he just needed to get out of new york was not working with him and JR. So this is a test for RJ to see if he will improved.in toronto.
I agree but as a Celtic fan I’d rather face Philly or Milwaukee then the Knicks OG is a lock down defender which makes them a better team in a play of series the bucks are horrible defensively
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Raptors fan here. Like others, I agree this was a win-win. Watching the Raptors play, Quickley is really going to thrive being a starter (like the upside is definitely there) But Knicks fans are going to LOVE OG as he continues to fit within the system. It's a win-win even if Quickley becomes an all-star because with the Rose connections, you're going to resign OG long-term AND those first round picks you've saved from this deal you can leverage into a shooter. The Knicks definitely didn't get fleeced - OG is a lot more than just a great defender & you'll see it.
I think Raptors win this trade too, regardless of RJ’s inconsistency. IQ is the real prize for them. The Knicks keeping their picks tells me they want a first option though, not necessarily a shooter. Though the top two rumored targets (Donovan and KAT) are elite shooters
You’re the first Raptors fan so far who agrees that this is a win for both teams and I agree. However I hear a lot of Raptors fans cheering they won the trade. Some even criticized Achiuwa in order to make their point. 😅
@@FastbreakFrequencythe love IQ. We drafted him, remember. We just used him to get a player who fits better. We already have a starting pg. You don’t. You had 3 good wing players and we don’t. What sense does it make to pay for 2 starting pg? Now we will pay OG and you have to RJ and IQ. So we all win. Good night. 😴
Your a honest Raptors fan and i definitely respect your comment so thanks from a ole time Knicks fan - respect 👍.
You nailed it. OG is good without ball in his hands. Defense etc.. RJ is a ghost unless he has ball. Well said.
Exactly, and NY's two biggest threats are on-ball and need those extra possessions now that RJ is gone
I think a lot of people hating on RJ too much. Ppl still salty that he was chosen as 3rd draft after Ja Morant. Hes 23, not in his prime, still has time to grow with Scottie and IQ. Pascal Siakam was just as inefficient and his spin moves were just as bad. But look at him now, hes currently #1-#2 option on the Raps
He has a lot less pressure now, I think he will get better so long as they trade Siakam finally
Didn't like rj game..don't play defense and not athletic enough to play his position..2 me he will always b a bench player..unless a miricle happen..
Why do yall always lie on Knicks fans
You see raptor’s fans saying the Knicks got fleeced
You see Knicks fans saying they wish they didn’t give up Quickly.
Then there are Knicks fans like me who understand you have to pay to play
And knew the trade was a good deal from day 1.
So acting like y’all are the voice of all Knicks fans
If my Knicks was to trade Flynn & a 2nd round pick for either: Tyus jones or Malcolm Brogdon or Scary Terry Rozier, that would strengthen our bench temendously!
All would be great but I feel like all would cost more than Flynn and a 2nd round. If Knicks FO pull that off I have no words. But Flynn is filler so they would need a first rounder or a rotation player (Grimes? I like him where he is tho)
IQ for OG at best. just giving away Barrett for nothing.
The Knicks win from the perspective of keeping their most tradable assets which are their draft picks
Exactly
Most of their draft picks are heavily protected. Draft picks are hit and miss. RJ and IQ are much better value then mid level picks.
@@bobcatch102 That depends on the team needs.. the Knicks have ALL their own picks over the Knick 6 years
samething with Raps.they didnt give up any drafts pick. this is your logic.
@@MysTicBiGz The point that you’re missing is that the Knicks are already the superior team and who happens to be the destination team of one Donavan Mitchell..
Both teams won that deal
Agreed
Rj just dropped 37 how does that feal.
Who wins what trade people getting carried away all the players when were they feeling happy.IQ doing well get his starting point guard position and RJ will come into his zone because he feels comfortable in toronto. No pressure like when he was in new york. So give RJ a break people..
I don't hate RJ. I agree with you: a change of scenery is what he needs. My point was, I don't think he would get better if he stayed in NY. He had to go
trade looks good right now for the knicks, although i will say that Precious is still the same player this year than he was in year 1 with my Heat, i just don't think he has the basketball IQ to become a good player sadly. He looked like an interesting prospect coming out of Memphis but he just hasn't shown any sort of breakthrough and he's already 24 years old, so i doubt it will ever happen. i think Quickley was probably the best player to go to Toronto though not RJ, i'm interested to see what he can do now that it seems he'll be the starter and get over 30 mins a game there for the first time in his career.
If I am being honest I see Montrezl Harrell in Precious lol. Hope I am wrong tho. I do agree Quickley is better than RJ and probably the reason the Raptors agreed to the trade at all
it depends on what toronto expects from iq. i can't see iq as a starting pg for a winning young nba team. he's to erratic imo. i like iq off the ball and off the bench. rj has to have the ball to be effective but he's offensively limited. u can't depend on them nightly for scoring. iq came off the bench for us. pls don't forget that. that's extremely important. rj was playing his way to bench with us. og fits. that's all we wanted and needed. i don't think that's understood enough.
I see IQ taking off in Toronto. Small sample size but he's changed the team so far. I agree in that OG was worth both players to NY SPECIFICALLY. That's why I think they won the trade
@@FastbreakFrequency keep watching. remember, inconsistency is the issue.
People always think one team has to win and one has to lose a trade. There is such a thing as a WIN-WIN trade. I'd give the Raptors an easy A and the Knicks like a B+
You are totally right, only I would give both teams an A. Depends on how you value IQ
He said both got better, just he thinks the Knicks are much better than the Raptors are
Rj barrett reached his ceiling at Duke, i watched him for 4 years, he's peaked.Now IQ is a different story, that one hurt but it's hard to find a 6'8 defensive stopper who can shoot.
I'm not that pessimistic on RJ but he's certainly frustrating in terms of development
RJ is terrible, we already Don't miss him.@@FastbreakFrequency
Exactly BARRETT is Too Slow AND for sum reason BARRETT believe he is that dude !!! Sum NBA players can move faster backwards that BARRETT can running full tilt !!! At 21 mil 4 years QUICKLY deserves that !!! QUICKLY is a 2 guard not a point !!! But what do I know lol !!!! Okkkk PEACE ✌
if of comes to play. Ya. Doesn't happen every game.
You mean OG? He doesn't need to be an offensive threat every game, that's why the fit is so good
@@FastbreakFrequency watch about 10 toronto highlights and check out how much this dude hustles, he has physique and shot to be and all star, but, he's not.
I know he has potential, but he's defensively-orientated. I don't see the issue with him not being an offensive star, especially if he continues to grow his off--ball game
Stop CAPPING !! Rite Now. EVERYBODY !!!!!!! OG is HIM ( DEFENSE 1ST ) nothing like OG in the NBA !!!!!! BARRETT want to be a Star So Baaaad ( it very very tiring just watching him play ) PEOPLE if you only watch GAMES you'll never know what im stressing !!! BARRETT was like a cancer &&&&& how many times did his man just beat him to the spots !!! Now with this MR OG its soooo refreshing because he is that dude !!! Moving with out the ball !! Covering EVERYBODY LOL !!!! its like THANK YOU GOD for OG !!! If you know basketball 🏀 i dont need to say nothing else !!!! NEW YORK STAND UP. OKKKK PEACE ✌
Nobody won a damn thing the Raptors aren't going to make the playoffs and the knicks aren't going any further than round 2 if their lucky once again these teams are just moving bodies unless one of them makes a big move and picks up a star player that will act move the needle
People have to stop saying what organizations developmental teams are A. B. C. ECT. if in fact Toronto developmental team is soooooo GREAT LMAO why hasent Precious reached greater heights ??????? BARRETT isnt gonna become no more than what he is right now !!! BARRETT has PEAKED !!! HES TOO SLOW. !!! OKKKK PEACE ✌
Disagree, both teams got better. Knicks are still a 2nd round exit team. Raps improved their future with younger talent. Quickly will be the best player in the deal if OG doesn't improve his offensive consistency.
Yes to both points. OG is the equivalent of the Nuggets’ Aaron Gordon trade for me. They add an important piece, but they don’t have the first option yet. Raptors won this trade as well as IQ is special. I didn’t think saying Knicks won in the trade would imply I thought Raptors lost lol, it seems that way tho
The Knicks maintained valuable assets though while adding one of the most coveted wings in the league. OG will make any team better no matter who’s in the lineup, so seeing as the Knicks have the assets to make another significant move, I think securing OG first was a very good move
Excellent points made
Not only are they not the winner, it's not even close. Yes. RJ is CURRENTLY worse than OG and will ALWAYS be worse than OG defensively but OG is a generational defender. But the trade wasn't OG for RJ... it was OG(and scraps) for RJ, QUICKLY!!! AND DETROIT'S second round pick(likely 31's over all) for one of the best drafting teams in the NBA. Now. About RJ being worse than OG... Yes. He's somewhat worse RIGHT NOW, but the Raptor's have one of the best development programs in the NBA AND he's THREE if not FOUR years behind OG in age for time to develop. While he will never be the defender that OG is, because, let's face it, almost no one will ever be the defender OG is. There's no reason to believe RJ can't or won't be a vastly superior offensive talent and a perfectly serviceable defender. Also, let's not forget... it's entirely possible Masai and OG are playing four dimensional chess here and OG will just re-sign with the Raptor's in the off-season. Though, that's a long shot, but, it's not entirely unforeseeable. He loves the team, loves the city, will get the bag, and... most importantly, got more usage then he's getting with the Nick's. OG wants a more impactful roll in the offense. And no team(other than non play-off teams) can offer the place with-in the offense that the Raptor's can.
You make a great point about RJ. He might well transform completely in the six, but it just means he would never have gotten there in NY. So I don't see how the trade is a loss for NY. NY doesn't need OG to grow offensively to have an impact
@@FastbreakFrequency Yes but OG needs to grow offensively to be happy in New York. He's always felt under utilized and wants more usage.
If you got to add a bunch of "if this happens" and "well it could actually be" in your assessment of who won the trade, then you don't have a strong point. Both teams are better because of the trade right now. Leave it at that if your response is gonna be that something may happen in the future but have no assurance that it will.
@@lightxgrenade So... when you're driving a car and see a massive brick wall right in front of you, but, you are not, currently, hitting that brick wall, you're saying that one can make no meaningful observations or considerations about said brick wall that is 'potentially' in one's future just because one is not currently in immediate connection or contact with said brick wall? Furthermore, the only relevant and meaningful discussion is, in fact, that you are currently safe and warm inside your car irrespective of the looming specter of a very obvious and impending brick wall?
No one is suggesting specific future stats of any of these players. They just making general statements based on play style and trends which are meaningful(though not the be-all-end-all) considerations for potential future performance and general projectability.
In a sense you are right though. All we TRULY know at this VERY second is that we are warm and safe inside the car. Though if we all lived with that level of foresight in our lives we'd never be able to leave the house as we would all be hit by a bus almost immediately because at the time we leave we are not being hit by a bus, it is, inconceivable to us that we could be hit by a bus, because, we, are not currently, being hit by a bus.
@@Tetrahedragon2 That's a ridiculous and long winded analogy. You make a ton of assumptions over what can happen in the next few months and years. And those assumptions coming true is why you think the Raptors "won" this trade. That's not the same as someone crashing into a wall at all. Your opinion is more like, if I plant this sapling today, and in the next few months and years the ground nutrients are just right, the weather is just right, the sunlight amount is just right and it doesn't get any parasites or diseases, it'll be a 50ft tall tree. Lots of variables in your assessment.
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