I remember a shop in Liverpool in the mid sixties you could have bought the shop full of bike for £2000 they had everything and where selling Velos . Nortons . Triumph. Every scooter you could think of from Zundapps to vespas my mate bought a working vespa for £10 . Hindsight is a wonderful experience of missed opportunities. ❤
these are collectors auctions not craigslist, people who care about original "numbers matching" bs. soulless shells of people whose children don't visit them anymore and whose only joy comes from owning old bikes. willing to dump the inheritance on ancient chunks of iron. but don't worry its only a matter of time before they die and their kids dump them on craigslist or gumtree or whatever to make rent.
@Merle J. Stadnyk maybe because of the lower supply of these old British bikes, but i think us collectors would be into old Harleys. or maybe these types people are just into cars in the us.
@Merle J. Stadnyk Maybe prices would be higher in the USA maybe not. I worked with a guy who bought a Vincent Black Shadow and (I'm getting old - I can't remeber what the other bike was!) - both in bits but complete - in a US auction about 18 years ago. He reckoned he would have paid three to four times as much for the same thing in the UK.
£23,000 for that 'Bretta is astonishing! I'm utterly gobsmacked! In 1979 I bought a '63 series III LI 150 from my neighbour for £150. It'd been his daily driver (around Edinburgh) from new, and it was really showing it's age. I gave it to my 2nd cousin to completely overhaul, and ended up rebuilding the engine with upgraded parts(that didn't keep breaking down). It was re-sprayed by a coach-builders on the outskirts of Edinburgh in it's original livery, but with three coats of everything(inc.clear-coat), so the total bill was another £175. I rode it for two years then went off travelling the world. She sat in my dad's garage doing nothing, so he phoned me up in Spain(where I had settled) and asked what I wanted to do with it, as it was getting in the way of his BMW Collection. As I'd almost forgotten I had it, I told him to sell it. So he gave it to his cousin who sold it for £400 in 1985...............One of the few things in my life that I truly regretted, as I paid £4000 for an almost identical III series 3 yrs ago! A lovely example(but without the amazing paint-job Lol!) PS. The last surviving member of the Stevens (AJS) family was used to be Mayor in the town I live in in S.Devon. He's still a Bike-Guy, Rides a (modern) Vespa most days, and has a few "Old Girls kicking around his barns", so when I see him having his morning coffee, later today, I'm going to mention the Porcupine! And ask if he knows what that example went for.............
The person who paid £23k for that piece of junk was a fool. I''ve had experience with bike restorations, that machine will be near-impossible to restore without replacing a large number of parts. The uninitiated see rusty bikes & think they can be painted and polished, and that will make them look new. It doesn't work like that.
Hi, Alex here the producer from the channel. This is interesting. Can you please get in touch with me through my email on the about us page? I don't want to put the email here. Look forward to hearing from you.
@@fredflintstone8770 Looking at the condition ,I`d would say a good 90 percent can be reused, and in the uk and world wide lambretta spares are easy to source ,but 24 grand is bit stupid when a fully restored one can be had for half that amount
Sold a collection of KR250a parts some years ago, enough for three bikes. Rebuilt a RD350 and rode it for a few years too. Worked for a Kawasaki dealer when the Z1 was released in Australia . Many other stories too.
I biought my 750 SS back in Jan 75 and i still ride it today. She has 33k kms on the clock and will never be sold. 4 years ago i was offered 55k Euros which i turned down.
The AP50 was a superior machine, I swapped mine for a pair of silencers I seem to remember. Friend of the family gave me a 64 Vespa Sportique which I got running &mot'd, sold it to a mod for £150 ,that was probably 1980, thought I'd done well, couldn't give them away back then.
For no clear reason my mate who was only 17 at the time, switched his 250 Suzuki T10 for a combo - A six&ahalf Matchless (I think) twin pulling a massive Watsonian fully enclosed chair you could have parked most bikes inside. Well, my then girlfriend and I are in the chair and getting a 'little amorous', figuring it being dark he wouldn't notice. He did. So, being the envious type, he detoured to where there was a stupidly steep hump back bridge. All three bloody wheels off the ground wasn't too bad but not much warning. Monica was the only one who enjoyed the landing 'though. It brought tears to my eyes. Some things just don't make good shock absorbers. Even if they are paired.
These prices are "BarkingMad" the amount of the bikes you spoke about is ridiculous, My first bike was a Panther 650, I found it in bits on the tip & put it together without a manual at 12, I had the full set of the Suzuki GT range & almost all the Yamaha RD range with a host of well respected British bike all bought as "BasketCases" at one time, unfortunately, I got ill & told I would never walk again let alone ride my beautiful bikes, so I promptly got the arse & sold them all, it's a shame I didn't listen to my beautiful wife(SuperNurse) she gave me a month to sulk then put me through 5 months of hell, but I was walking again, sort of, 2 years on I was riding again, the only bike I kept I gave it to her a 71 GT380 it was the first bike she ever rode on, even though I've built her a very heavily modded ZX6R she still kept hold of it she was offered £10,000 not so long ago but says it holds too many memories to let it go at any price, I have a Gamma500 & Ididn't pay anything like that for it, in fact all the6 bikes I have don't add up to that, but they are in better than new condition even though I ride them a lot, I'm currently taking money off litre bike riders that can't ride with the Gamma. If I hadn't sold them I would be a millionaire, all these guys trying to re-live their "GloryDays" by buying these & paying absolute fortunes for shite "CafeBikes" are banging up the prices on the secondhand market, tomboy-abit got a CB750 4 for £300 so there are still the odd ones out there.
Thank you for all. I built and own a racing sidecar with Ducati 750 "Imola" engine in 1974 . ATTARD SIDECAR -FRANCE . It was one of the first racing sidecar with racing cars wheels and tyres , central engine , Etc
Have a couple of stories about a brough superior ss100 1925 we were clearing out a relative's house after he had passed away we were clearing the garden which was very over grown after a couple of days we got to the back and found a old brick shed no windows and double paddlocks we got in eventually it was like entering a time warp my father myself and cousin all started routing around at far end of shed was a large tarpolin when we removed it there were 3old motorcycles when we got them into the light we were shocked a brough superior ss100 a Areial square four and Vincent black shadow we found all the documents for them we sold all the bikes to British motorcycle museum Birmingham
Barber has two E95, Iannucci has one, Bonhams sold Roy Richards E95, Miller has a E90 restored by Bennett and George Beale build one complete replica of the E95.
In the second Isle of Man TT, held in 1908, Fabrique Nationale de Herstal (or F.N. - still in business, but making only armaments today) sent two of their little inline 4-cylinder shaft-drive Model F machines to the Island, the first inline 4.
That AJS is amazing 😲 I will take the Duck bevel, though....plz 😎 I was but a CB-100 wee lad when I saw it's (yellow) pedestrian brother at Cal's motorcycle sales in OKC in the early 70's. and yes, he started it up with a quarter on the gas tank. 😉
I bought a brand new MV Agusta 750GT for $2800 Australian dollars in the late seventies after the Australian importer closed up shop. No one wanted MVs at the time and parts were hard to come by. I wish I still had it today.
I owned a m v 750 s i brought mine from a car dealership in Sydney Australia in early 70s as well it was an ex bob jane owned machine it wasnt new but i payed about 3000 for it back then no distributer or spare parts made it impossible to ride in the end virtualy gave it away in the end ah if we only had known back then what one would be worth now
I bought my RG500 from Action Suzuki in Australia for $4995. I sold it with 12,000 klms on it in 1988 for $2700 The last one I saw on Ebay Australia was at $44,600.. reserve not yet met. Suzuki Australia kept the first one they ever imported. It was offered a couple of years ago at $80,000 AU
I wonder what my first motorcycle, a 1968 Norton Ranger P11A would be worth today? It was near complete and original with just the high pipes replaced with a low pair of Dunstalls.
It's kinda strange to see the motorcycles that used to get treated as `just another bike', like Yamaha LC's (Elsies) and FS1E (fizzies) now commanding such astonishing prices. I guess it's telling me that I must be a bit of an antique myself. I wonder how much I'd fetch with a concourse restoration...
Always amazed at the money Broughs make. A friend of mine had a Matchless engined SS80. At the end of the day Broughs are "bitsas" whose inflated value is based on a combination of George Brough's hyperbole and the Lawrence of Arabia association.
It is a shame that bread and butter bikes are now fetching stupid money. I can understand the rare exotica. But when a scabby c15 goes for 1500 pound. These where 5 pound bikes. Bantams came often free to a good home.
The 750 MV's were based on a 500cc engine designed in 1950 which in turn was based on a Gilera engine designed in the 1920's so it had a very long life considering it was old tech, MV actually stopped using it in competition in 1966 when the 3 cylinder bikes came online and these were the bikes that were most associated with Ago although he did win 1 GP with the 4 cylinder in 1965 his first year with MV Agusta, coincidentally this was the year that the 600cc road bike was introduced and became the worlds first production transverse 4 cylinder machine but the road bikes carried on with the larger displacement 750 up to 1977 when production stopped. When I was younger I really wanted one of these 750's but they were way outside my pay scale and appear to be even more so now.
I had a 750 round case that I sold just over 20 years ago as a basket case for £3000, ouch ! Children were very young and we needed central heating ☹️ Sold it to an old friend who took it to Spain and he sold it about 5 years ago to an Italian (still in those baskets) for €20,000.
Have one of the very last Honda NC 35s and a very scratched NC 30 sitting gathering dust. This set me to wondering has me wondering what they're worth.
I once owned a 1960's Honda CL 350 that I bought and later sold for a few hundred dollars. I rode it for transportation for years. The bike was a bit of a joke as bikes of the era go, and certainly not worth much. I recently saw on-line that several of them in good condition were going for $6000 and more.. Amazing what some of these old bikes are going for. I also had one of those old Yamaha small bore single cylinder 2 strokes. I bought it used from a Yamaha dealer for $150 at the time and sold it for about the same money years later. I can't believe how much that bike in this video brought at auction. I think people are losing their minds, but whatever. I also think that people tend to lose their minds a bit at auctions and get that fever where they 'must win' the bidding.
Sounds like a bubble getting ready to pop. Broughs and the likes fair enough, they were always exclusive and rare, but ratty old rd's for over 10k ! Madness.
Oh I dunno .......... When you look at what it'll cost for a new virtually 'factory sealed' bike its not that bad. Besides. A couple of years back I followed a drop dead bloody gorgeous original Kawasaki H1 just sniffing the burned two stroke oil and revelling in its engine sound. It was still *bloody* quick too. I'd probably have swapped my 2002 R1 for it on the spot had he offered.
Think I paid £80 for my Fizzie. Passed my test on a RD 125. Examiner said I will not be able to see you all the time. Pulling away I turned left instead of right. Thought I had failed straight away! Seems like yesterday ( I passed) but in fact it was 43 years ago. 😔 Where did time go and why did I not buy everything then so I could sell it now! 😭
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Fantastic stuff - that Duke has been my dream bike for over 50 decades, but will no doubt continue to elude me. But - a good friend of mine has a Paul Smart Ducati that I've ridden, and it was incredible...
rd350, 120000$ that is insane these prices are 10x there actual worth. I will suggest that the market this video is talking about is the equivalent of buying puts or push on the stock market. Hoping that some kind of hype will influence an already inflated unrealistic price. Cheers, a
OMG, 115K GBP for a Duc which you cant trust to run free of problems for 50km, some guys must have too much money :-) - anyway, not my problem lol - its certainly a very nice bike, a friend of mine had a 750SS in the late 70's, the bike was more in a garage for repairs but on the road
The porcupine is a treat a guy I know who restores Vincent's xsaid he was bidding on this one think the 2supercharged engines are lying around in the UK
When you think everything is made up of atoms and atoms are 99.9999% empty space, these bikes are expensive for something that will end up as a pile of dust in the future.
Hi Lupo631 at an auction the hammer goes down on what you have bid, but the winning bidder has to pay a buyer's premium usually of 20% plus VAT, so typically you must add 25% to your budget, that is the commission that the auction house earns. Cheers from Bristol, I'm addicted to buying violins!
@@johnduheaume6650 Hi John, thanks, now I understand. Could not find any meaningful translation in my language what that means. We call it _"netto"_ for the bidding price and _"brutto"_ for the bidding price plus the extra costs like fee/commission and tax (VAT). All clear, thanx from Bremen/Germany.
it seems to me that... yes the buyers are investors. And so what! these bikes are preserved. obviously i would like to ride one of these Brough monuments. As i would like to sleep one night in the Queens bedroom in Versailles, I would like to get one of the horses of Lascaux standing on my wall... Ok If you don't have the money which is necessary to keep those bikes in good condition, maintain the motor after driving it during the week-end... forget it and let it for the fortunates few. The only regulation should be to keep the bike on british territory. And telling that it's a bubble, in my opinion is a mistake. The monetary policies of BCE, Fed and so, made the future more than dangerous for everybody excpt banks, traders and governments. If you want to keep your patrimony, you should quickly buy tangible goods and collectors are tangible goods. a Brough superior, a Porcupine will remain very rare and the value stays. whatever may become the value of money.
Agreed the prices are crazy BUT you can say the same for house prices or certain art work . . Supply & demand !! Anyone wanna buy a seriously cool 74 Rickman Metisse T140 cafe racer ? Offers over £25,000 Find another one as they say 😁
Imagine the older Boomers were the ones paying the big bucks on the brough superiors and the younger generation was paying the big bucks for the two cycles?? I'm a boomer and my favorite on that list was that Ducati 750ss.
lot of money for a ducati 750 ss, a used to own a 1974 it was immaculate, alloy imola tank polished was hub steered built by difazio have a photo of the son in law with it, swapped it for a 650 a10 plus 400 quid did a do the right thing, guess not, ohh bugga
These auction sites take the piss on prices there just old bikes Yes ther worth a bit more but really they should be ashamed of what ther asking as they cost heaps of cash to restore an already knackerd motorcycle , there like greedy estate agents , I hope they all go to the wall in the future 😡
All engineered to make bikes impossibly expensive, WAAY in excess of what they are ACTUALLY worth I hate these profiteering parasites..... not a true biker amongst them ... imagine paying 34k for a rd250 you go straight into negative equity. you'll NEVER get your money back, and it's too expensive to use..... and imaging trying to do an agreed value with the insurance broker.... (you paid HOW MUCH>>???) sorry , we won't cover that....
If you like these UK auction results for 2021, we also did a USA one, you can watch it here:
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I remember a shop in Liverpool in the mid sixties you could have bought the shop full of bike for £2000 they had everything and where selling Velos . Nortons . Triumph. Every scooter you could think of from Zundapps to vespas my mate bought a working vespa for £10 . Hindsight is a wonderful experience of missed opportunities. ❤
Exactly what me dad says you could pick em em for next to nowt 👍
Good old days, love to go back.
insane prices....i think a lot of bikes are sold to investers, so no chance for us the normal tinkerer/riders
these are collectors auctions not craigslist, people who care about original "numbers matching" bs. soulless shells of people whose children don't visit them anymore and whose only joy comes from owning old bikes. willing to dump the inheritance on ancient chunks of iron. but don't worry its only a matter of time before they die and their kids dump them on craigslist or gumtree or whatever to make rent.
@Merle J. Stadnyk maybe because of the lower supply of these old British bikes, but i think us collectors would be into old Harleys. or maybe these types people are just into cars in the us.
@Merle J. Stadnyk Maybe prices would be higher in the USA maybe not.
I worked with a guy who bought a Vincent Black Shadow and (I'm getting old - I can't remeber what the other bike was!) - both in bits but complete - in a US auction about 18 years ago.
He reckoned he would have paid three to four times as much for the same thing in the UK.
Well said 👍
@@nick4506 Who dies with the most toys - wins.
£23,000 for that 'Bretta is astonishing! I'm utterly gobsmacked! In 1979 I bought a '63 series III LI 150 from my neighbour for £150. It'd been his daily driver (around Edinburgh) from new, and it was really showing it's age. I gave it to my 2nd cousin to completely overhaul, and ended up rebuilding the engine with upgraded parts(that didn't keep breaking down). It was re-sprayed by a coach-builders on the outskirts of Edinburgh in it's original livery, but with three coats of everything(inc.clear-coat), so the total bill was another £175. I rode it for two years then went off travelling the world. She sat in my dad's garage doing nothing, so he phoned me up in Spain(where I had settled) and asked what I wanted to do with it, as it was getting in the way of his BMW Collection. As I'd almost forgotten I had it, I told him to sell it. So he gave it to his cousin who sold it for £400 in 1985...............One of the few things in my life that I truly regretted, as I paid £4000 for an almost identical III series 3 yrs ago! A lovely example(but without the amazing paint-job Lol!)
PS. The last surviving member of the Stevens (AJS) family was used to be Mayor in the town I live in in S.Devon. He's still a Bike-Guy, Rides a (modern) Vespa most days, and has a few "Old Girls kicking around his barns", so when I see him having his morning coffee, later today, I'm going to mention the Porcupine! And ask if he knows what that example went for.............
The person who paid £23k for that piece of junk was a fool. I''ve had experience with bike restorations, that machine will be near-impossible to restore without replacing a large number of parts. The uninitiated see rusty bikes & think they can be painted and polished, and that will make them look new. It doesn't work like that.
@@fredflintstone8770 Well aren't we fortunate to have such sage wisdom from such gracious gents as you! I'll sleep easier tonight knowing this!
Hi, Alex here the producer from the channel. This is interesting. Can you please get in touch with me through my email on the about us page? I don't want to put the email here. Look forward to hearing from you.
@@TheClassicMotorcycleChannel Who, me or Fred Flintstone?
@@fredflintstone8770 Looking at the condition ,I`d would say a good 90 percent can be reused, and in the uk and world wide lambretta spares are easy to source ,but 24 grand is bit stupid when a fully restored one can be had for half that amount
Sold a collection of KR250a parts some years ago, enough for three bikes. Rebuilt a RD350 and rode it for a few years too. Worked for a Kawasaki dealer when the Z1 was released in Australia . Many other stories too.
I biought my 750 SS back in Jan 75 and i still ride it today. She has 33k kms on the clock and will never be sold. 4 years ago i was offered 55k Euros which i turned down.
The AP50 was a superior machine, I swapped mine for a pair of silencers I seem to remember. Friend of the family gave me a 64 Vespa Sportique which I got running &mot'd, sold it to a mod for £150 ,that was probably 1980, thought I'd done well, couldn't give them away back then.
My Granddad died in 1958. He ran a Brough Superior SS 100 with sidecar. Gran thought she'd done very well when she sold it for £25!!!!!
For no clear reason my mate who was only 17 at the time, switched his 250 Suzuki T10 for a combo - A six&ahalf Matchless (I think) twin pulling a massive Watsonian fully enclosed chair you could have parked most bikes inside.
Well, my then girlfriend and I are in the chair and getting a 'little amorous', figuring it being dark he wouldn't notice. He did.
So, being the envious type, he detoured to where there was a stupidly steep hump back bridge.
All three bloody wheels off the ground wasn't too bad but not much warning.
Monica was the only one who enjoyed the landing 'though.
It brought tears to my eyes.
Some things just don't make good shock absorbers. Even if they are paired.
The Ducati 750SS was my favorite of all of these. What a beauty.
These prices are "BarkingMad" the amount of the bikes you spoke about is ridiculous, My first bike was a Panther 650, I found it in bits on the tip & put it together without a manual at 12, I had the full set of the Suzuki GT range & almost all the Yamaha RD range with a host of well respected British bike all bought as "BasketCases" at one time, unfortunately, I got ill & told I would never walk again let alone ride my beautiful bikes, so I promptly got the arse & sold them all, it's a shame I didn't listen to my beautiful wife(SuperNurse) she gave me a month to sulk then put me through 5 months of hell, but I was walking again, sort of, 2 years on I was riding again, the only bike I kept I gave it to her a 71 GT380 it was the first bike she ever rode on, even though I've built her a very heavily modded ZX6R she still kept hold of it she was offered £10,000 not so long ago but says it holds too many memories to let it go at any price, I have a Gamma500 & Ididn't pay anything like that for it, in fact all the6 bikes I have don't add up to that, but they are in better than new condition even though I ride them a lot, I'm currently taking money off litre bike riders that can't ride with the Gamma. If I hadn't sold them I would be a millionaire, all these guys trying to re-live their "GloryDays" by buying these & paying absolute fortunes for shite "CafeBikes" are banging up the prices on the secondhand market, tomboy-abit got a CB750 4 for £300 so there are still the odd ones out there.
Thank you for all. I built and own a racing sidecar with Ducati 750 "Imola" engine in 1974 . ATTARD SIDECAR -FRANCE . It was one of the first racing sidecar with racing cars wheels and tyres , central engine , Etc
MV Agusta 750s the most beautiful bike ever produced,thanks for the upload
I like your bike stuff! Cheers! Beamer.
Have a couple of stories about a brough superior ss100 1925 we were clearing out a relative's house after he had passed away we were clearing the garden which was very over grown after a couple of days we got to the back and found a old brick shed no windows and double paddlocks we got in eventually it was like entering a time warp my father myself and cousin all started routing around at far end of shed was a large tarpolin when we removed it there were 3old motorcycles when we got them into the light we were shocked a brough superior ss100 a Areial square four and Vincent black shadow we found all the documents for them we sold all the bikes to British motorcycle museum Birmingham
Barber has two E95, Iannucci has one, Bonhams sold Roy Richards E95, Miller has a E90 restored by Bennett and George Beale build one complete replica of the E95.
Gotta love that Porcupine. First one I’ve seen. Thanks for sharing.
In the second Isle of Man TT, held in 1908, Fabrique Nationale de Herstal (or F.N. - still in business, but making only armaments today) sent two of their little inline 4-cylinder shaft-drive Model F machines to the Island, the first inline 4.
That AJS is amazing 😲
I will take the Duck bevel, though....plz 😎
I was but a CB-100 wee lad when I saw it's (yellow) pedestrian brother at Cal's motorcycle sales in OKC in the early 70's. and yes, he started it up with a quarter on the gas tank.
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The scooters did exceedingly well in their final auction price. Happy new year from NZ.
I bought a brand new MV Agusta 750GT for $2800 Australian dollars in the late seventies after the Australian importer closed up shop. No one wanted MVs at the time and parts were hard to come by. I wish I still had it today.
I owned a m v 750 s i brought mine from a car dealership in Sydney Australia in early 70s as well it was an ex bob jane owned machine it wasnt new but i payed about 3000 for it back then no distributer or spare parts made it impossible to ride in the end virtualy gave it away in the end ah if we only had known back then what one would be worth now
Was that in Barkly Street in Footscray? I looked at it but couldn't find the dollars. Woulda, coulda, shoulda...
It was from an engineering business in Balwyn. The owner had bought the last three 750 MVs from Bob Jane who was the first Australian importer.
Very good explain ,thank you.
How incredible, how authoritative... So I subscribed !!!
I can’t believe some of these 2 stroke prices, they were all turds back in the day to ride. It’s true what they say about a fool and there money.
I bought my RG500 from Action Suzuki in Australia for $4995. I sold it with 12,000 klms on it in 1988 for $2700 The last one I saw on Ebay Australia was at $44,600.. reserve not yet met. Suzuki Australia kept the first one they ever imported. It was offered a couple of years ago at $80,000 AU
I wonder what my first motorcycle, a 1968 Norton Ranger P11A would be worth today? It was near complete and original with just the high pipes replaced with a low pair of Dunstalls.
It's kinda strange to see the motorcycles that used to get treated as `just another bike', like Yamaha LC's (Elsies) and FS1E (fizzies) now commanding such astonishing prices. I guess it's telling me that I must be a bit of an antique myself. I wonder how much I'd fetch with a concourse restoration...
Silver Yam RD250! Loved it
Very interesting video.. I agree with 2T prices! I’m looking for a 250, KR1 or RGV to add to my garage & prices are still on the up.. 👏🏼
Always amazed at the money Broughs make. A friend of mine had a Matchless engined SS80. At the end of the day Broughs are "bitsas" whose inflated value is based on a combination of George Brough's hyperbole and the Lawrence of Arabia association.
It seems odd and pointless pay a premium price for an all original bike to then turn and restore it to a relatively common condition of "like new"..
It is a shame that bread and butter bikes are now fetching stupid money. I can understand the rare exotica. But when a scabby c15 goes for 1500 pound. These where 5 pound bikes. Bantams came often free to a good home.
And there is the £25 C 12 I bought and passed my test on in 1970 lol.
Nice bikes....very interesting!! THX for this video!
I'm not a big fan of Ducati old and new. But the sound from those old Ducati's SS, SD and a few others.👍
The Bevel-drive Engines . Magical sound .
Brough superior!! Wow, so beautiful! That would be where I put my money
The 64 Lambretta cracks me up. Obviously someone who bought one, thinking the Mod movement was them, until they discovered they hated Northern Soul!
The first motorcycle I ever rode was a water cooled three cylinder two stroke Suzuki 750. I was hooked
I love these market reports. Thanks! Happy New Year
People will always say,'Thats too much'.The question is,'How much would you pay for something you can't buy'??
The 750 MV's were based on a 500cc engine designed in 1950 which in turn was based on a Gilera engine designed in the 1920's so it had a very long life considering it was old tech, MV actually stopped using it in competition in 1966 when the 3 cylinder bikes came online and these were the bikes that were most associated with Ago although he did win 1 GP with the 4 cylinder in 1965 his first year with MV Agusta, coincidentally this was the year that the 600cc road bike was introduced and became the worlds first production transverse 4 cylinder machine but the road bikes carried on with the larger displacement 750 up to 1977 when production stopped.
When I was younger I really wanted one of these 750's but they were way outside my pay scale and appear to be even more so now.
I had a 250 wet dream lol...then 350 ypvs should have looked after them
The Ducati is beautiful! Gonna have to get to Britain one of these days for the auctions.
Wish I’d kept my bike from 1985. Not quite in the same bracket though. Kawasaki AE80. Lol. Loved the vid.
I had a 750 round case that I sold just over 20 years ago as a basket case for £3000, ouch ! Children were very young and we needed central heating ☹️
Sold it to an old friend who took it to Spain and he sold it about 5 years ago to an Italian (still in those baskets) for €20,000.
I don't need to say it . Do I ?.........................
@@johncunningham4820 No, nothing can be said. Still kick myself every bloody day.
Great video and interesting info - thanks!
Have one of the very last Honda NC 35s and a very scratched NC 30 sitting gathering dust.
This set me to wondering has me wondering what they're worth.
Probably more than your house
I once owned a 1960's Honda CL 350 that I bought and later sold for a few hundred dollars. I rode it for transportation for years. The bike was a bit of a joke as bikes of the era go, and certainly not worth much. I recently saw on-line that several of them in good condition were going for $6000 and more.. Amazing what some of these old bikes are going for. I also had one of those old Yamaha small bore single cylinder 2 strokes. I bought it used from a Yamaha dealer for $150 at the time and sold it for about the same money years later. I can't believe how much that bike in this video brought at auction. I think people are losing their minds, but whatever. I also think that people tend to lose their minds a bit at auctions and get that fever where they 'must win' the bidding.
Sounds like a bubble getting ready to pop. Broughs and the likes fair enough, they were always exclusive and rare, but ratty old rd's for over 10k ! Madness.
No matter what these bikes are now worth, there is one thing money can't buy - your youth back.
That example didn't look too "ratty" to me! But I wouldn't pay £10k for one, unless it'd been Barry Sheen's pit bike............
Oh I dunno .......... When you look at what it'll cost for a new virtually 'factory sealed' bike its not that bad. Besides.
A couple of years back I followed a drop dead bloody gorgeous original Kawasaki H1 just sniffing the burned two stroke oil and revelling in its engine sound.
It was still *bloody* quick too.
I'd probably have swapped my 2002 R1 for it on the spot had he offered.
Couldn’t agree more, especially when I see really nice RD 400 from 76 going for 5-6 times what I paid for my new one ,$1,380 Canadian! 😂🇨🇦
Mad investors its a shame these bikes will never see the roads, wish i had kept my first bike Fs1e no way its worth that cash.
Thanks and all my wishes
Think I paid £80 for my Fizzie. Passed my test on a RD 125. Examiner said I will not be able to see you all the time. Pulling away I turned left instead of right. Thought I had failed straight away! Seems like yesterday ( I passed) but in fact it was 43 years ago. 😔 Where did time go and why did I not buy everything then so I could sell it now! 😭
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Fantastic stuff - that Duke has been my dream bike for over 50 decades, but will no doubt continue to elude me. But - a good friend of mine has a Paul Smart Ducati that I've ridden, and it was incredible...
50 decades x 10 years (decades) = 500 years...
@@gerhardw.933 Doubt Henry had a duke, he probably had more than a few duchesses.
I feel I have a part of the top 2 bikes histories as I own a 61 engined 66 Matchless / AJS - Advertised
Just one word to cover this WOW ! : )
Very interesting, thank you 👍
Strange world, where people buy these, while other's starve !
Excellent view !
Thanks so much!!!!
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Lexmoto Echo will fetch millions 50 years from now 😃
rd350, 120000$ that is insane these prices are 10x there actual worth.
I will suggest that the market this video is talking about is the equivalent of buying puts or push on the stock market.
Hoping that some kind of hype will influence an already inflated unrealistic price.
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OMG, 115K GBP for a Duc which you cant trust to run free of problems for 50km, some guys must have too much money :-) - anyway, not my problem lol - its certainly a very nice bike, a friend of mine had a 750SS in the late 70's, the bike was more in a garage for repairs but on the road
The porcupine is a treat a guy I know who restores Vincent's xsaid he was bidding on this one think the 2supercharged engines are lying around in the UK
My old neighbor had a superior, sold it in the 50's for 2 quid as it was 'just another old bike' I won't be telling him about this video haha
Well that was roughly a tenth of a good pre tax weekly wage then so............
How many did Jay Leno buy or sell🤷♂️😏
Amazing I’ll have to start selling…!!!
Where's the Hailwood
replica ?
Imagine a "2 stroke dinosaur" surrounded by electric bikes. Nostalgia will be/is unattainable for most. Didnt say im happy about it.
When you think everything is made up of atoms and atoms are 99.9999% empty space, these bikes are expensive for something that will end up as a pile of dust in the future.
AJS fetched $400,000. Holly shit !!!!
Question why are museums selling off rear and one off motorbikes?
They're not owned by the museum. The collection was on loan to them and now the owners are selling them.
Could you explain, what "inklusive premium" means, please?
Hi Lupo631 at an auction the hammer goes down on what you have bid, but the winning bidder has to pay a buyer's premium usually of 20% plus VAT, so typically you must add 25% to your budget, that is the commission that the auction house earns. Cheers from Bristol, I'm addicted to buying violins!
@@johnduheaume6650 Hi John, thanks, now I understand. Could not find any meaningful translation in my language what that means. We call it _"netto"_ for the bidding price and _"brutto"_ for the bidding price plus the extra costs like fee/commission and tax (VAT). All clear, thanx from Bremen/Germany.
If I hear the words
" Which is a fantastic price " one more fkg time...
Like reading " neat and tidy handlebar layout " in Motorcycle Mechanics .LOL
Bridgestone motorcycles, if you can find one.
I found a tyre
it seems to me that... yes the buyers are investors. And so what! these bikes are preserved. obviously i would like to ride one of these Brough monuments. As i would like to sleep one night in the Queens bedroom in Versailles, I would like to get one of the horses of Lascaux standing on my wall... Ok If you don't have the money which is necessary to keep those bikes in good condition, maintain the motor after driving it during the week-end... forget it and let it for the fortunates few. The only regulation should be to keep the bike on british territory. And telling that it's a bubble, in my opinion is a mistake. The monetary policies of BCE, Fed and so, made the future more than dangerous for everybody excpt banks, traders and governments. If you want to keep your patrimony, you should quickly buy tangible goods and collectors are tangible goods. a Brough superior, a Porcupine will remain very rare and the value stays. whatever may become the value of money.
10 grand for a Fizzy? That means my AP50 would be worth 20 grand if I still had it 😁
i grew up in all of this, born 1954. i would disagree in many ways, Children are deciding things now
Agreed the prices are crazy BUT you can say the same for house prices or certain art work . .
Supply & demand !!
Anyone wanna buy a seriously cool 74 Rickman Metisse T140 cafe racer ?
Offers over £25,000
Find another one as they say 😁
Imagine the older Boomers were the ones paying the big bucks on the brough superiors and the younger generation was paying the big bucks for the two cycles??
I'm a boomer and my favorite on that list was that Ducati 750ss.
10350 for a Fizzy 🙄 And it has pedals like a bicycle.
I wonder how prices will change as the economy goes down the toilet in 2022.
lot of money for a ducati 750 ss, a used to own a 1974 it was immaculate, alloy imola tank polished was hub steered built by difazio have a photo of the son in law with it, swapped it for a 650 a10 plus 400 quid did a do the right thing, guess not, ohh bugga
it was the round case 750 ss
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ridiculous prices
Just silly
10 k for a fizzy !!! Omg 😮
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These auction sites take the piss on prices there just old bikes Yes ther worth a bit more but really they should be ashamed of what ther asking as they cost heaps of cash to restore an already knackerd motorcycle , there like greedy estate agents , I hope they all go to the wall in the future 😡
Covid prices or Brexit prices..?
Ridiculous.
Flo rite boat plog
All engineered to make bikes impossibly expensive, WAAY in excess of what they are ACTUALLY worth I hate these profiteering parasites..... not a true biker amongst them ... imagine paying 34k for a rd250 you go straight into negative equity. you'll NEVER get your money back, and it's too expensive to use..... and imaging trying to do an agreed value with the insurance broker.... (you paid HOW MUCH>>???) sorry , we won't cover that....
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Carn't wait till the suckers are stuck with their investments. This is the reason motorcyclists carn't afford a decent older machine.
Been and got the T shirt cuz I was 16 in 1970. A tip for you guys - get a Moto Morini 3 1/2 - great little bike. 1976 vintage.
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