Realistic vs Arcade - which is better for research points?

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  • In this video I take a look at how many more research points you get per kill in realistic battles. You might be surprised to find out that arcade battles could be a more efficient way for you to get research points.
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  • @bean_boii_8529
    @bean_boii_8529 ปีที่แล้ว +2438

    Funnist part of the whole vid: "the best gamemode for you is the one you enjoy the most" buddy, I don't play wt to have fun. I play becuase there is something inside of me that tells me I have to get that Su-29, and then after that, the F-16, and the Tornado, and go leak government documents to ensure that my turret turns two seconds faster

    • @Kream_Komi
      @Kream_Komi 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +120

      Bro is commited

    • @UJV2010
      @UJV2010 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      Same

    • @maruftim
      @maruftim 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      real...

    • @tijger5353
      @tijger5353 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Trowing out those facts

    • @MaksimKosarko-qi5br
      @MaksimKosarko-qi5br 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      100% true. I get on WT because I want to fly the Tomcat sooooooo bad, knowing I'm just gonna buy my way to the top. And when I get there I'm going to die 5 seconds into a dogfight (which is already true).

  • @milesmiller2922
    @milesmiller2922 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +762

    Whichever game mode you play, be sure to relentlessly make fun of people who play the other mode.

    • @FlyWarThunder
      @FlyWarThunder  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

      😂

    • @csh5414
      @csh5414 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      Also lie about how much SL and RP you make in your chosen mode.

    • @GansHanders
      @GansHanders 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      ​@@csh5414 Atleast triple it.

    • @csh5414
      @csh5414 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@GansHanders Lmfao..at least.

    • @emmata98
      @emmata98 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Especially if you only play sim^^

  • @Rabbit_AF
    @Rabbit_AF ปีที่แล้ว +711

    I just play what is fun to play. It makes the grind less grindy feeling.

    • @FlyWarThunder
      @FlyWarThunder  ปีที่แล้ว +61

      exactly!

    • @obese_microwave
      @obese_microwave 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      That’s why I only ever play arcade, ground and air

    • @lookas1863
      @lookas1863 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      @@obese_microwave ground realistic is much more imerssive and armor actually matters, cause you need to know how and where to pen

    • @robertbutler5615
      @robertbutler5615 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@obese_microwaveground rb is way better than ab, I understand for air cus air rb can be so boring but give ground rb a chance cus it’s really fun especially when u get a plane and you do cas for your team, nothing more fun than dropping some 1k pound bombs on some tanks and seeing the explosion in the background

    • @obese_microwave
      @obese_microwave 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      im just waiting till i get the f16 to play RB@@robertbutler5615

  • @Knoman
    @Knoman ปีที่แล้ว +295

    Some good points Worcey! It was nice you were able to use exact same hunters/prey! The other factor is that RB battles usually take almost 3x as long as Arcade too! not to mention you only spade one vehicle at a time in Air RB!

    • @FlyWarThunder
      @FlyWarThunder  ปีที่แล้ว +16

      thanks!

    • @loops_9035
      @loops_9035 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If this is the case, then why does the RP multiplier that's displayed in game not change when switching from arcade to realistic battles, like how the SL multiplier does??

    • @John-Johnsonreal
      @John-Johnsonreal 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      longer matches = far more rp, the longer matches in rb along with the increased research gives far more rp each game

  • @Edward_2817
    @Edward_2817 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +567

    I play arcade because I get 5-6 kills in one game. if I play realistic, i just fly for 5 minutes, then get shot down.

    • @a-2874
      @a-2874 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      Too true

    • @RatonBroyeur
      @RatonBroyeur 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

      Came here to say that. I prefer realistic but: no respawn, a loooooooooooot of nothing in between and 2 min of fun make me prefer arcade.
      With RB the time to action if far lesser AND you can spawn more than one tank.

    • @lred1383
      @lred1383 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      i know i'm several months late, but securing at least one kill in RB isn't difficult. Climb at a roughly 20 degree angle, you'll arrive to the skirmish after the first encounter has already happened and with a higher altitude, and get an easy dive on someone. The hard part is making it out of there to repeat the process, or the actual dogfighting if you wanna get involved with that (i main the US, t2-3 mostly, and their planes are only second in their clumsiness to German ones. No point in trying to outturn most other fighters)

    • @BukaVkamil
      @BukaVkamil 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Arcade tanks are ok, but planes are terrible. No tactic works because every plane acts the same and laws of physics dont work. You're trying to boom and zoom an enemy? Nope, he does a 180 and is already on your back.

    • @Questionablethingy
      @Questionablethingy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@lred1383 mf playing boom zoom aircraft,try playing other nation with weaker engine aircraft smh its pain

  • @Still_Water-w6q
    @Still_Water-w6q ปีที่แล้ว +281

    You also have to remember the activity bonus. the bonus you get while playing in realistic is wayyyy higher

    • @FlyWarThunder
      @FlyWarThunder  ปีที่แล้ว +90

      yes, because activity levels in typical RB match is wayyyy lower than typical AB

    • @RPrubber
      @RPrubber ปีที่แล้ว +51

      But there is also a downside to that, if don’t manage to get a kill and you survive the match you will end up getting almost 0 research points. Something that can happen in higher br, with low player count fairly quickly.

    • @Sigmagnat650
      @Sigmagnat650 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@RPrubber playing at the BR where you're nearly guaranteed to see F-15A, Su-27, JAS39, etc. is basically a guarantee of that- it'll be 2~3 of the new hyper-meta planes swallowing up 12~14 of the enemies so the other 13~14 people on your side have to compete for maybe 4 kills? Yikes.

    • @2255Gaming
      @2255Gaming 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not if you are like me and die as soon as you find an enemy

    • @Still_Water-w6q
      @Still_Water-w6q 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@2255Gaming Then I will make sure to not be like you

  • @Calistooo4
    @Calistooo4 ปีที่แล้ว +494

    Arcade is just so much fun I don’t really care about jets to be honest prop arcade is the way to go

    • @phantomii1482
      @phantomii1482 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I like both game modes I played arcade for 3 years on my PlayStation account to just relax, play some of my favorite planes, and understand the game. then I transitioned to a PC account 3 months ago to do more realistic battles because I enjoy a more dynamic approach to the game along with the high risk high reward. It really is whichever game mode you enjoy more like he said. I will say Early and Korean War Jets are fun anything above 10.0 and up it’s starts to become miserable with horrible stock grinds and everyone getting access to missiles.

    • @nenadgardilcic
      @nenadgardilcic ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​​@@phantomii1482Yes,u r wright but still top tier jets r more fascinating for me.Just like to hear roaring jets sound more.No props can compare with it.

    • @E2_Hawkeye
      @E2_Hawkeye ปีที่แล้ว +1

      💯

    • @E2_Hawkeye
      @E2_Hawkeye ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nenadgardilcictry DCS

    • @davidfans5852
      @davidfans5852 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Im thinking same about air sim, altougt its corsair killing simulator

  • @elnewbie2611
    @elnewbie2611 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    You're forgetting 1 factor, arcade battles are much more fast phased, you can play alot more games per hour because you don't get stuck in the queue (from br 1.0 to around 5.3 most people play arcade battles ground and air) and you're also earning more crew xp points in arcade than what you earn in air rb and ground rb. Plus you can skip the climbing and rack up on as many kills as you possibly can within the first 3 mins of the match, most arcade games last about 5-8 mins compared to the 10-18 mins air rb can last.

    • @MrKumi
      @MrKumi ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The queue is super short for realistic unless your in a squad with people from a ton of different nations. Also, your forgetting the vehicle multiplier, it changes drastically between arcade and realistic.

    • @j_tha_panther
      @j_tha_panther ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That and 4-7 kills on average in arcade will always be worth more than one maybe two in realistic

    • @MrKumi
      @MrKumi ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@j_tha_pantherno not at all, i am grinding out the spitfires right now and spading them, at 3.0 with four kills you will get around 3500 RP, 5 kills will give you upwards of 5000 RP. you need around 20 arcade kills to do this, only for one aircraft. i have spaded aircraft in one entire game before just getting 4-5 kills. 1-2 kills in RB is worth more than 4-7 in arcade.
      trust i have 33 days time in air RB and over 400 spaded aircraft.

    • @MrKumi
      @MrKumi ปีที่แล้ว

      @@j_tha_panther update: i just spaded the first typhoon in one air rb game, i got 3 kills and 15 ground targets. with premium time that gave me 7000 RP. check it our on war thunder my username is MrKumiNo1.

    • @HeyLook287
      @HeyLook287 ปีที่แล้ว

      And since its easier to get kills, its a great way to learn the game in Arcade and its much faster (imo) if you're not that good at RB and knowing where to shoot off the top of your head.

  • @fluppet2350
    @fluppet2350 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I tend to find myself leaning towards arcade for reserve-2.0 vehicles. Since they are so slow, it helps get around the 3-5 minutes it takes to get to an engagement where the possibility of dying right away is quite good.
    After that 1.0-2.0 area things get much easier to deal with and I get back to realistic since I am no longer in a 200 km/h biplane and can play more than I climb

  • @nichtmoetiviertgenug
    @nichtmoetiviertgenug 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    I only air AB and ground RB, makes a good combo of realism and fun. It just takes too long to take off from an airfield in air RB when you only play for and hour or two. Thanks for the comparison :D

    • @Sturminfantrist
      @Sturminfantrist 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Zu Faul zum steigen und positionieren? Mann im RL läuft es auch so man started steigt positioniert sich, sucht den gegner.
      Bleibt bei Air AB denn Spieler wie du ruinieren RB air mit ihrer Spielweise, gibt mittlerweile genug die RB spielen und jammern das sie nicht gleich Feindkontakt haben, n Fliegerspiel ist kein Egoshooter ala CoD Nuketown! In RB air sollten m.M. nach die Maps grösser , die Spieler mind. 45Min. bis 1 Std. sein und die Team ruhig auch mal kleiner max. 6-10 Spieler weils einfach realistischer ist.

    • @AusKipper1
      @AusKipper1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same here if I'm playing with a screen, mouse and keyboard, then Sim for the joystick and VR goggles. I wish they would make a mode for VR players that want a bit more pace, something like Air RB, but joystick controls and cockpit view only. If I try play Air RB in VR with a joystick I get destroyed, usually still have some fun with the whole experience but very rarely actually kill another player.

  • @Miguelcooldude777
    @Miguelcooldude777 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    Arcade battles helped me a lot with getting the points needed for the event vehicles. One of the main reasons is 1. Much easier to get kills 2. The ability to respawn which is a very good 3. The cheap repair cost also helped a lot. I think arcade battles is better than RB in many ways, I would play it a lot more frequently than i do if the research reward wasn’t so bad, because some times I find myself getting 14 kills or more and getting 5K RP (no premium account btw), if I were playing in RB I would easily get more than 5K RP getting two kills or more.

    • @kattkatt6961
      @kattkatt6961 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      yeah I dropped 13 kills, destroyed 2 bases and ended up with 13k RP.... Destroying 1 base and getting like 3 kills in RB would be around 20k easily...

    • @Certified_Dude
      @Certified_Dude ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve dropped 5 kills in a saber and got like 8k rp. I think my games broken

    • @Miguelcooldude777
      @Miguelcooldude777 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Certified_Dude The BR Also affects your results

    • @FabianDialer-vw1zk
      @FabianDialer-vw1zk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      AB for SL farm. RB for RP farm.

    • @Certified_Dude
      @Certified_Dude 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Miguelcooldude777 dude I just dropped 6 in the 104 and I got 7,500 with a 15 percent booster I think my games brokey

  • @amendoim_zinho6308
    @amendoim_zinho6308 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Dont forget about the activity bonus that is huge in realistic

  • @crisscrosby1235
    @crisscrosby1235 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    Realistic battles overall gives you more research, but realistic air is boring af. Im not wasting what feels like 2 hours of my time flying towards the battlefield with no guarantee ill even get a kill. I only have one life. Playing Realistic ground actually feels rewarding AND fun though, unlike realistic air.

    • @willys_jeep1804
      @willys_jeep1804 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      y’all are making me want to try out arcade again

    • @edeka3
      @edeka3 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My playstyle in Air RB:
      AFK sideclimb, coming back for the fight, next game...

    • @spyczech
      @spyczech 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Air rb is only fun if you get a strike aircraft or interceptor air spawn

    • @WTCHANNEL109-kj1ik
      @WTCHANNEL109-kj1ik 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      skill issue

    • @aquafire_yt6247
      @aquafire_yt6247 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just play jets

  • @flyingforfunwarthunder7116
    @flyingforfunwarthunder7116 ปีที่แล้ว +14

  • @JJINTXS
    @JJINTXS ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nicely done Worce! Great attention to details.

  • @HighSideHustler811
    @HighSideHustler811 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well said, plenty of vids like this that doesn’t really get into it enough and afterwards still have questions or concerns. This lays it’s all out perfectly 🤙

  • @csh5414
    @csh5414 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was well put together and must have taken a while. I play what I feel in the mood for , although I do usually Spade in Arcade..it also gives me a good indication of where to shoot when I take the Aircraft to RB.

  • @theenclave6254
    @theenclave6254 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Air RB is my go to. Feels like I make a lot more there then I do AB, and I like the slower pace and one life aspect of it

  • @kattkatt6961
    @kattkatt6961 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    There's another hidden factor in which your earned points in a match don't line up with final earnings as the match ending can occur. You can get 26k rp from 3 kills in an RB match at jet tiers, yet 9 kills in arcade won't give that same 26k return.

    • @ThePizzabrothersGaming
      @ThePizzabrothersGaming 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      really depends on if you won the match, and your rp efficiency on the aircraft. since in RB you only fly 1 plane every thing you do is equally efficiënt

  • @racingraptor4758
    @racingraptor4758 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    People will argue which mode is better and gives you more rp. But i think that important thing is which mode gives you more fun? Since when you re having fun, gring becomes a far away thought. Thats why im going arcade mainly for planes. For tanks its a mix since recently i started playing realistcis on 1.3br and i have so much fun with flakpamzer I (anti everything roach) and Stuka Panzecracker (flying tank)

    • @FlyWarThunder
      @FlyWarThunder  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Very true. Definitely play the mode that you enjoy the most.

  • @mjdsaxkid
    @mjdsaxkid ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Something to note is silver lions is generally less and rewards with lions get worse as you generally use more vehicles and therefor repair more often

  • @WormwoodActual
    @WormwoodActual ปีที่แล้ว +10

    As I always say:
    If you're a really good player ab earns better as it's faster earning per hour.
    If you're an average or bad player, RB.
    If you're an amazing player, (top 5-10%) simulator

    • @FlyWarThunder
      @FlyWarThunder  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      agreed!

    • @Still_Water-w6q
      @Still_Water-w6q ปีที่แล้ว

    • @dergrafvonzahl4734
      @dergrafvonzahl4734 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's simply not true. Simulator rewards are time-capped due to "useful actions" so it is pretty much irrelevant if you kill 3 or 10 planes during 15 minutes, tge rewards are pretty much the same. SB doesn't reward skill. So if you are excellent at every mode, SB actually gives the lowest rewards

    • @Clueless-fella
      @Clueless-fella 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If your average / bad u play arcade to get used to wt then if your good then play realistic imo

    • @WormwoodActual
      @WormwoodActual 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dergrafvonzahl4734 seeing as I have all major nations capped and am top 30-40 in the place on team and win rate for both ab and sim, and am a gaijin partner, I think I have some authority on the matter haha.
      With this being said I could go on about the math, but it's not worth it as I've done it 500x times in streams 😂

  • @jansatamme6521
    @jansatamme6521 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Most of your RP comes from playtime, now there is skill bonus which does increase RP quite a bit, but the base RP is still mostly battle time

  • @rongarzon7295
    @rongarzon7295 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    forgetting another key thing Depth of lineup, Arcade player with 10 crew slots and hundreds of backups is scary and can make BIG EXP BIG SL more cracks and ability to ground/bomb or fighter depending on situation. if u got 1 -2 crew slots arcade not worth it. if u have 4+ then arcade starts to payoff more.

    • @FlyWarThunder
      @FlyWarThunder  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      For sure if you are playing arcade you should have at least 4 crew slots.

  • @mickatlas3272
    @mickatlas3272 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the examples this was way better than someone just doing a whole heap of math on a board & leaving you feeling confused at the end

  • @R4ZORLIGHT
    @R4ZORLIGHT 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    AB is more fun thanks to the respawns, i wish we could do the same in RB like in ground RB. Thanks for making this video, very informative!
    Also you get more kills and therefore more bonus credits (for awards) and RP for high kill streaks.
    For Air i prefer Arcade, for everything else (Ground + Naval) RB.

    • @Sturminfantrist
      @Sturminfantrist 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No never dont ruin RB air, what we need is bigger Maps and longer Games with maximum 10 Player . Wtf you think Pilots have respawn and airstart in real life? you can stay with AB when you like such shiet

    • @qaq554
      @qaq554 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Sturminfantristwhy are you so salty, let people play what they want to

  • @Fa1cono
    @Fa1cono ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is exactly the video I needed, been playing for almost 200 hours now and didn't know why people would ever play air rb, thank you for finally clearing this up.

  • @MishiChief
    @MishiChief ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thanks for doing the math, Worce! Math gives me "thinky pain" and it is not like Gaijin tells you these things, so very useful!

    • @liquidleopard4495
      @liquidleopard4495 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gaijin also doesn't tell you how to turn off automatic repairs and save money. 10 years after a friend clued me in, I'm still a little peeved at Gaijin about it.

  • @luiseduardolopezdelgado5600
    @luiseduardolopezdelgado5600 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is the trinity for air battles: Arcade for crew XP, Realistic for SL, Simulator for RP. Bombers benefit the most in Simulator btw.
    In tank battles; simulator is way better for RP and SL, however, the ranks are on schedule (so it's too unreliable).
    Arcade shines for tank battles, you get a lot of crew XP, Especially with boosters (squeeze every drop of crew XP you can get, even if you lose).

  • @liquidleopard4495
    @liquidleopard4495 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I feel broke every time I unlock and buy a new plane, so I'm actually more concerned with Silver than research points.
    ...And it looks like AB vs. RB makes the same difference in silver that it does in research.

    • @ThePizzabrothersGaming
      @ThePizzabrothersGaming 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      RB is better for silver simply due to lower repair and resupply costs on average. but there is no such cost for rp

    • @thechefwhodoesntcook8233
      @thechefwhodoesntcook8233 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ThePizzabrothersGaming tbh I mainly use tier 3 German planes in AB for silver, the Bf109 F-4 smacks. For RP I use (currently) my ho 229

  • @maxmarko5949
    @maxmarko5949 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    despite the sound quality, the content is awesome, thank you!

  • @tomwyr
    @tomwyr ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Even after 10 years I still play mostly air AB, best way to make SL imo, most fun and best to spade vehicles in bulk.
    I play some air RB for grinding modules on jets, that might be faster for single vehicles but I do find it quite boring.

  • @lambo6012
    @lambo6012 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How sharp the planes turn in arcade is such a joke lmao. I forgot how hilarious arcade is.

  • @nathanphillips2395
    @nathanphillips2395 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You get a bigger win and time in game bonus for realistic too. Not sure how much it affects it but it is a thing

  • @Jovan-UK
    @Jovan-UK 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video, Worcestershire. 👍

  • @dariussaberi
    @dariussaberi ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don’t disagree that it depends on which game mode you are better at but you also have to consider that arb has longer matches which increases the rp gain

  • @beercrazy5487
    @beercrazy5487 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i over the donkeys years of playing war thunder from when it was released would arcade for all fighters upto rank 4 but at rank 4 its a toss up between arcade or realistic
    for anything over rank 4 its always realistic or you will watch your life drain away waiting for a battle
    one exception is bombers and some cas planes as they can get crazy xp from bombing bases even at low tier but again its a wait game sometimes and its best to just arcade yourself to death in low tiers
    and thats a damn good video you have done pal and got me sub to you

  • @desraek6653
    @desraek6653 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think one thing you missed waht the amount of RP you get for activity because for long RB battles where you get high actvivty sometimes the RP gain from that alone is insane

    • @FlyWarThunder
      @FlyWarThunder  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah there are definitely other factors besides air kills. You do get higher bonus for activity levels in RB too, but again, your actual activity should be much higher in arcade

  • @rainbowappleslice
    @rainbowappleslice ปีที่แล้ว +2

    another thing to point out is that in realistic you get way more research points if you win the match

    • @FlyWarThunder
      @FlyWarThunder  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Both AB and RB give you SL and RP bonus when you win

  • @berry9458
    @berry9458 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I mean, those skills are impressive by themselves, but now he can turn back time AND fly backwards!? This is some crazy shit, I am still trying to figure out which way is up and him just doign the full matrix thing on us... Wow!

  • @mrcoolkidgaming7089
    @mrcoolkidgaming7089 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I honestly would choose air realistic battles as you get more credit whenever a match ends and the physics feel more realistic

  • @TheBigZooShowbyTanis
    @TheBigZooShowbyTanis 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Numbers have spoken ! I'm an arcade plane player because I find it more fun and less boring.

  • @KelloggsDigga
    @KelloggsDigga 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ground i only play realistic, but air (props) i play arcade for grinding, like you said there are always enemies and you mostly are quick in combat after you spawned, a bonus is i can just listen to music and shut off my brain, if i die its not to bad because i didn’t just spend 7 minutes flying just to not get a kill and die with 234 points on the leaderboard

  • @juandeag5194
    @juandeag5194 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    arcade for planes and realistic for tanks is by far my favorite!

  • @Jdubya4040
    @Jdubya4040 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think also there exists a skill gap between the arcade vs realistic players too. generally casual players won't really touch realistic and tend to not be as good if not for mag dumping their plane for every kill so if you're good you can pub stomp arcade

  • @tommyt4259
    @tommyt4259 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I seem to always have a better k/d playing realistic so it's a win win playing realistic.

  • @oataoa
    @oataoa 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Half the research points per kill in arcade, but considering the game are way faster overall, with more maneuvrable planes, and i easily do between 10 to 20 kills in each arcade battles it’s way more efficient

  • @ArupRozario-ue7wf
    @ArupRozario-ue7wf 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Congrats on 11 k subscribers

  • @ThePizzabrothersGaming
    @ThePizzabrothersGaming 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    for tanks the main difference is you get only three respawns in arcade, and in realistic you get aircraft and more respawns if you're good, and you don't get auto-spotted 24/7 by the game

  • @lubomirac9287
    @lubomirac9287 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video. But a very important factor was omitted. Crew experience, you get 3x more crew xp per 1 research point in AB than in RB.

  • @eliasl332
    @eliasl332 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sim battles is the hidden winner here. I still have a screenshot of my entire tech tree glowing green after completing a battle. Best rewards and best place to fully utilize the boosters.

  • @zackreytownsend2315
    @zackreytownsend2315 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    went 19-1 with an f16c in AB and tbh that’s the most fun i’ve had in that plane in a bit

  • @yoschiannik8438
    @yoschiannik8438 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would be getting more RP per hour in AB simply becouse i cant play an hour of RB without dying of boredom.

  • @RamosLeo2703
    @RamosLeo2703 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For me i use the rb to upgrade all my modifications on a plane wich im stuck or a plane wich i dont like to play. Its good because you can (in low tier aircrafts) upgrade almost all modifications in 1 match, depend on how good you are in rb

  • @AirGonzero5291
    @AirGonzero5291 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video Worce keep it up

  • @Mortales0092
    @Mortales0092 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video.
    However, AB is better for farming, since in 30 minutes I get twice the score you get in RB.
    It's not a boast, it's that AB starts already close to the clash while in RB you have to take off, travel and then arrive at the clash. Taking into account that you don't have respawns, if something goes wrong and you get shot down immediately, you've basically lost 10 minutes of empty flight.
    In any case I stopped playing in era 3 since the gameplay is always the same and gaijin asks me to grind too much for an F-14.

    • @FlyWarThunder
      @FlyWarThunder  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, that's the main point of this video. That it is possible to grind faster playing AB

  • @aeroalejandro
    @aeroalejandro ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You dont take into account the match time. There is a bonus for longer duration, that takes part in realistic.

    • @csh5414
      @csh5414 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      People keep saying this but in the time it takes to get that bonus in RB..you could get 2-3 Arcade games and if you can down 10-15 planes per match it’s a no brainer. I like RB but lately it has become so stale.

    • @thechefwhodoesntcook8233
      @thechefwhodoesntcook8233 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@csh5414 Higher the BR, the more affective RB gets

    • @csh5414
      @csh5414 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thechefwhodoesntcook8233 Maybe but it’s probably even more boring with Missile spam.

    • @thechefwhodoesntcook8233
      @thechefwhodoesntcook8233 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@csh5414 Heard that missle spammers never hit

  • @RookVR_
    @RookVR_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What are your graphics settings? Because they look sooo nice lol

  • @devinschuller5862
    @devinschuller5862 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What if i play sim?

  • @Officer_duh
    @Officer_duh ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m quote good at aerial maneuvers in ab, my proudest moment was getting 4 air to air gun kills with two enemy fighters on my tail the whole time.

  • @TheRealRaveGamer
    @TheRealRaveGamer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Trouble is almost no one plays arcade from about 4.0 and up.

    • @FlyWarThunder
      @FlyWarThunder  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that's just false

    • @TheRealRaveGamer
      @TheRealRaveGamer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FlyWarThunder in 4.3 I get an arcade match after 30 minutes of waiting if I’m lucky.

    • @FlyWarThunder
      @FlyWarThunder  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheRealRaveGamer that's strange. I play AB up to 6.3 fairly often and the longest wait time is usually 2 minutes. Perhaps you are playing at odd hours for the server you use?

  • @jasonaradas8653
    @jasonaradas8653 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AB gives more crew xp than RB as well. So if you have a crew in need of training it is best to stick to AB for a bit.

  • @gabork5055
    @gabork5055 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If we're going to assume the two examples here are the main parts of the typical gameplay loop of each mode which i think they are you got to acknowledge your two kills in Arcade took a lot less time but were a lot more luck-dependent especially the second kill as no one went to shoot at you, distract-interrupt you or kill you.
    On the other hand this would have taken way longer to set up in RB on average. (and it still depends on your luck whether your team is dead by the time you sideclimb and you're left to waste your time soloing a team or not)
    That said i usually go for something relatively consistent and reliable, like stealth bombing in Air RB or SPAA in Ground AB-if there's no free cap at the beginning of the match i'm not going to bother bringing a tank, i rather make a better use of that time and make a cup of coffee for myself until someone brings a plane.
    Ironically Naval is the most consistent and the least played by the community at the same time because it's grindy af. but it still gives good SL.

  • @guerrinlove69
    @guerrinlove69 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I mostly play air arcade for grinding planes, but I usually have the most fun dogfighting in ground rb. I just got the F3D-1 the other day and I've been playing ground rb exclusively to research all it's modules. I usually net about 5k in vehicle research per match, but I have so much fun doing it.

    • @FlyWarThunder
      @FlyWarThunder  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      nice! 5k per match is excellent

    • @guerrinlove69
      @guerrinlove69 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FlyWarThunder all I had to do was feed the snail for premium time 😂

    • @FlyWarThunder
      @FlyWarThunder  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@guerrinlove69 that's the fastest way to grind! I have done that too

  • @KIKI_536
    @KIKI_536 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tbh i started playing like a 3 months ago and arcade is way way faster for research points for me and btw good video great explenation 💪🏻🔥

  • @purplecorn1234
    @purplecorn1234 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I look at it like this, grind arcade, and once you find a tank/vehicle you like to play and are good at, take those vehicles to realistic.

  • @Maddog-eo9ud
    @Maddog-eo9ud ปีที่แล้ว

    I personally recommend playing arcade until 3.7 then playing both AB and RB until you start consistently getting 1 kill every RB and then switch to RB full time for grinding

  • @japanesedriftmachine2140
    @japanesedriftmachine2140 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember sim before nerf, rocket strafing airfields with f4 making millions of SL and 100s of thousands of RP even without booster

  • @I3oob_Master69
    @I3oob_Master69 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great info man I’ve been grinding on arcade having a blast if I rage on that mode with campers I can’t even imagine realistic 😅

  • @nattythepanda4692
    @nattythepanda4692 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There's a pretty easy, no math answer to this question tbh, which one is better? The one you do better at.
    It doesn't matter if RB has multipliers or if AB you can respawn and get more kills if you SUCK at it and get 0 kills.
    Play the one you're better at and you'll get better RP than the other mode regardless.

  • @angelicdragon9823
    @angelicdragon9823 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It also seams like the targets rank also maters killing a plane lower rank then you effects the reward

  • @retired4365
    @retired4365 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Pay for premium, get the best premium vehicles, play arcade and get good. When I play (on a year long break) I can grind up to tier 6 on any country in tanks or planes in 1 month each. All spaded and still losing 51% of the matches. Arcade is the best mode, thanks Worc for doing this video for the unknowing participants of a good game. ✌🤘👍❤

    • @4ffff2ee
      @4ffff2ee ปีที่แล้ว +4

      >pay
      give money to gaijin? nah

    • @justinsane332
      @justinsane332 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's after rank 6 that real is the only way to go. Try getting arcade match for top tier

  • @TheThirdEmperorOfMalvachia
    @TheThirdEmperorOfMalvachia 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the spitfire in arcade is literally an rc plane

  • @TheStig47
    @TheStig47 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Air AB is more fun for me, personally. I get 3 times the kills in Arcade (and often more) plus I don't have to take off from a base and return to reload. I'm retired so I have plenty of time to play, too. I also have several goals I'm working on that require having played many missions and having a high kill count. Plus, I play and spade as many aircraft as I can for all nations and have all aircraft spaded into rank 5 jets for all nations (and beyond for some, ie, US). Air AB suites my play style the best, and I have no trouble making a lot of SL and RP. More power to those who enjoy Air RB. It's nice that we can choose what is fun for ourselves.

  • @jjstuartonwriting8150
    @jjstuartonwriting8150 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In realistic, you die, your match is over, and you have to queue. In arcade, you can use your entire lineup, don't have to land and re-arm, and stock planes fly better.

  • @elgrandjefe4661
    @elgrandjefe4661 ปีที่แล้ว

    An aditional element: you get a different % of RP points as crew training in AB or RB. This means the same points develop your crews differently. AB is better in this regard.

  • @cjbrags1344
    @cjbrags1344 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait did they actually model in the carberator valve float issues on the britans planes?

    • @csh5414
      @csh5414 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      On the Mark 1a yes. Good job that clever lady got a say…

  • @patriarchyss1569
    @patriarchyss1569 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The thing that you miss in this summery, is actually shooting down an aircraft is only a section of the final rewards from that battle, expecially in realistic, personally only play that, so not sure about arcade, as let's say you get your 1-3 kills, + you destroy 10 ai ground targets, and last a long time, you get a huge bump in rp and sl... Like in rank 3, you spade aircraft before they use there 10 free repairs up without a premium account and running few boosters...

  • @Somplay.
    @Somplay. ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Realistic is for research
    Arcade is for crew skill
    👍👍

    • @Still_Water-w6q
      @Still_Water-w6q ปีที่แล้ว

      Umm... what? You easily get almost 100 crew points for one match in arb

    • @elnewbie2611
      @elnewbie2611 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Still_Water-w6q lmaooo you're delusional man tf are you talking about? 🤣 That's only true for top tier talismaned or premium vehicles, he was right every 100 rp in arcade = 3 crew xp points whereas 100 rp in air rb = 1 crew xp point if there was enough people to play top tier arcade and not get stuck in the long queue times, it would be a crew xp points farming mine.

    • @csh5414
      @csh5414 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Still_Water-w6q Arcade has a crew multiplier…RB doesn’t.

  • @muha0644
    @muha0644 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don't forget RP you get for activity as well. Even if you only get 1 kill, most of your RP will be simply due to time in battle.

  • @Skittleshunter64
    @Skittleshunter64 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really enjoy Sim but it will take for ever to grind it out

  • @cjpert5286
    @cjpert5286 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We can all have our opinions and it's okay to have a different one to another. But to me for a new player to have fun and feel progression quickly, he needs to start in Arcade to at least Rank 4 and then he might think to step up and try to learn and understand Realistic.
    I noticed that while grinding a new Nation after my first top tier reaching.
    Then to really enjoy the quality of this game, you have to try and grind some Sim Games. Especially Top Tier. It's where those jets are nice to fly. Honestly.
    I regained the discovery feeling while doing Sim with a simple Hotas and then with a VR headset. It's honestly an experience.

  • @estebansingh9411
    @estebansingh9411 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The time it takes is a big point. You say that every kill counts double in realistic as it does in arcade, in arcade you can get around 8 kills in 6 minutes. Good luck getting 4 kills in realistic in that timeframe

    • @clubardi
      @clubardi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i can tell you i have gotten 4 kills in that timeframe, granted it doesn't happen often with props but with jets quite easy to do in even less time

    • @estebansingh9411
      @estebansingh9411 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@clubardi Now I'm swallowing my words. As soon as I got to BR 6 I can barely get 4 kills in arcade

  • @sinisterisrandom8537
    @sinisterisrandom8537 ปีที่แล้ว

    Neither is Simulator Battles, since Sim battles don't go by assists, kills, etc. It goes by how long you have been in the match.

  • @ithaca2076
    @ithaca2076 ปีที่แล้ว

    just got scharnhorst after grinding german naval arcade since navals release

  • @pablito1904
    @pablito1904 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, is War Thunder's flight model realistic ?

  • @FabianDialer-vw1zk
    @FabianDialer-vw1zk ปีที่แล้ว

    I avarage a 2 kill in RB but 6 to 7 in AB. The only metric which should be taken is total research points after X amount of hours or battles played with also considering the wins and losses.

    • @I3oob_Master69
      @I3oob_Master69 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What do you play more ?

  • @someonewithoutaname6624
    @someonewithoutaname6624 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What does it mean when at the end screen it says "mission in progress" instead of showing your unlock progress?

    • @FlyWarThunder
      @FlyWarThunder  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      that means the mission is not over. In arcade you can get into another plane or a backup plane and continue the mission.

    • @someonewithoutaname6624
      @someonewithoutaname6624 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FlyWarThunder thanks man

  • @w1ntertide
    @w1ntertide ปีที่แล้ว

    I went to the dark side worce lol, I enjoy RB more 😌 at least for early jets. AB is nice for getting crew points, and fun for props.

  • @benjaminpedersen6345
    @benjaminpedersen6345 ปีที่แล้ว

    With arcade you can respawn really quick for sure better.

  • @BadPilotGas
    @BadPilotGas 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I try to grind jets, and I really push myself to learn and get better. But somehow I am always the first one to die while I’m in a strike aircraft at an altitude (around 3500m to 4000m) I know people wil say “skill issue” but it’s generally annoying that I am not making any progress.

  • @djjazzyjeff1232
    @djjazzyjeff1232 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whatever you're more likely to keep doing, do that. Or switch it up to keep it fresh.

  • @victornagel5
    @victornagel5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like going arcade without the lead indicator ❤

  • @susgofres
    @susgofres 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd rather die in an intensive battle than die from 12 planes shooting behind me.

  • @apolakigamingandmore6376
    @apolakigamingandmore6376 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude tried to dogfight a Spitfire using Scissors with B-239... *💀💀💀*

  • @Josh31892
    @Josh31892 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do I need to have a tier 5 tank and plane to unlock helicopters or just one of them.

    • @clubardi
      @clubardi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      just one will do

  • @draygonsol7863
    @draygonsol7863 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think it ultimately is up to the person what they end up enjoying and flowing with the best. For me it's Ground AB I'm more use to faster shooters and from when I use to be a WoT player I just clicked with it better. However I personally don't like the lack of stealth mechanics in AB and the hit indicator. I remember they had something like that a few years ago when they tried to make a competitive game mode but it was all so badly implemented.

  • @teddybarenbande5632
    @teddybarenbande5632 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    is it wort playing realistic battles if im just at rank 4 with my planes ?

  • @percyfreeman5936
    @percyfreeman5936 ปีที่แล้ว

    use multipliers for sim mode, rn when you play 1 frag and few activities for 2 hours you will get same reward as if you played multiple RB sessions during that time. Thing is, if you have one use multiplier it will be applied to all of the exp you get from sim game, which means it's much more effective

    • @kattkatt6961
      @kattkatt6961 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      only applies for 30 minutes as far as I'm aware.

    • @percyfreeman5936
      @percyfreeman5936 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kattkatt6961 Yesterday I played on Yak 1 with 300% RP and recieved 27k experience with 1 kill and some capped points throughout the game (I played from start to end).
      Not sure if what you are saying is true, but I usually get much less for same actions

    • @MattZaharias
      @MattZaharias ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@kattkatt6961the bonus multiplier item states this in the description, I've never tested to see if it was correct or not.

  • @caeryllium
    @caeryllium 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    after I hit 3.0, i started playing sim with my t16000m fcs and got two jets and a heli only playing sim for about 2 months and 150 hours