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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- This video isn't a fully fleshed out detailed video giving my reasons for why I believe this game isn't great. I bring fourth most of the custom characters mechanics in the game as well as dumb moments. This video is mostly just for laughs. I will probably make a more detailed video talking about why I think this game is bad and make it a lot more fair so you guys can hear my opinion from my mouth.
Things that you enjoy in Sonic games.
Forces : Auto plot/Play it with one hand.
Mania : Tee Lopez.
Boom : The wall-passing tech.
Lost World : "Blue Sphere"
Generation : The game itself.
Sonic 4 : The wall-standing tech.
Colors : When the announcer yell about Wisp's name.
Unleashed : *WOOOOOOO*
06 : Death.
ow the edge : Westopolis.
Heroes : Thunder Shoot & Homing Attack
Adventure Series : Chao Garden. *O H N O* Continuous Spin Dash.
CD JP : Funky music.
CD US : *I'm outta here.* Satanic Music.
S3&K : Hyper Sonic.
S&K : Knuckles.
Sonic 3 : Time-consuming barrel.
Sonic 2 : Tails Abuse.
Sonic 1 : Classic but without spin dash.
Sonic games : *M U S I C* and some characters' quotes became *M E M E S*
You sure the CD' s shouldn't be the other way around?
Judah It's a general consensus that the JP ver. has better music.
Matthew Morrison Yeah, but that's not what I'm pointing out. I'm saying that the JP' s Bad Future soundtracks were leagues more daunting and terrifying than the U.S. version.
Judah Oh brain fart
I'm Just Kidding Don't Judge Me I thought the part people like about 06 was the part where shadow roundhouse kicks silver in the head
6:36 wtf? Sonic has an animation for falling but he doesn't have any idle animations?
dUDE I KNOW...
It's reused from Lost World.
Grunkle Cobro I know, but still.
RatchetSprite
RatchetSprite facts.
sonic forces you to further lower your expectations for a good 3D sonic game
Sonic Mania made me completely forget about this game.
Micah Buzan I hope SEGA really look to results both in quality and sales (sonicmania is doing great) and give the go to Sonic manía 2 with more original content.
And hopefully one day, the mania team can make time a design a 3D game.
My thoughts: "Wait Forces or generati-"
both.
I hope they could stop making 3d games
Someone REALLY pissed me off I said sonic mania was a great game and then this person said they didn’t think it was all that good cuz they’re a “3d sonic fan” and I wanted to kill myself
ikagura Some classic fans can be just as bad, if not worse. I was playing Generations and this one guy wrote it off as shit and kept sucking the genesis games' dick. Yes, those games are great (i played them on the ds with the classic collection) and he is entitled to his opinion, but i guarantee you if Forces was a good game, certain classic fans would still write it off as terrible
One more thing, generations has a boss fight for both shadow and chaos while this game does not. No Shadow boss fight okay fine, but no Chaos boss fight!? You made a nice and shiny new model for him and don't even use it for anything but three animations!!?
Technically, his model isn’t even in the games files mostly because Chaos is in the Pre Rendered Cutscenes
what ever happened to the team that did generations? Were they taken behind a barn and shot dead for making a good game?
Brandon Gray
Source?
This is what I have so far, I have yet to cross reference it with SMO
i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/308/651/826.jpg
www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,95764/
source of only one person from the team that made sonic generations
Yeah maybe Nintendo got jealous and hired a hitman
Ender Nice
Ok...
*walks away but looks at his pfp*
Fun fact: If you put Sonic into Imperial Tower (the OC level with wall jumping), you can see that Sonic has a wall jump mechanic that never gets used in his stages.
What the fuck?
Delta Gem its cringeworthy
well, the fact that they coded it in and rigged the animation for sonic seems the opposite of lazy, more like the game was rushed out the door by a small team wich had to make a new uiteration of the lightning engine then make a game with only 3 level designers
Cezary Dudkiewicz maybe they are saving it for the next sonic game
crazy_t-dawger 123 And hopefully the next Sonic game is actually good and not rushed.
Cezary Dudkiewicz Well sonic has a slide mechanic that he doesn't use as well. Strange isn't it?
I swear, the only good thing about Forces is that it gave me a new found appreciation for Generations.
Rick Sanchez Same!!! I appreciate Gens a lot more after playing this game.
Rick Sanchez The music is good
The PK Boys
Well, to each his own. But in my opinion, this is the weakest soundtrack we've had since Shadow the Hedgehog. But even that game had good vocal themes. And unlike Shadow, this game doesn't even have Crush 40, a sin in my book.
*+Rick Sanchez* I liked Chemical Plant and Ghost Town. The Classic Sonic instrumentation was better than that 2.5D Sonic game.
Medachod i disagree, Cash Cash and the other made the Classic Sonic stages musics in Generations so good, remember City Escape Classic? The Forces Classic stage musics are forgotteables (sorry for my bad english). Still i liked Ghost town and Casino Forest musics.
Generations has Blaze in it. Forces doesn't. Generations wins
somasora7 Sonic Forces could have shown a situation so dire that Blaze would have to bring her Sol Emeralds to their dimension risking to rip it a apart by staying in the same location as the Chaos Emeralds, but if she didn't do that, the villains would end up dominating those two and probably even more...
Because blaze died. Idk why they put her in generations
All of sonic 06 is not canon anymore, Blaze is very much alive. Even though there is crisis city in Sonic Generations, 06 is not relevant anymore.
I mean, Blaze is in Speed Battle, does that count?
Uh Blaze sorta made 06 canon...you sure Generations still wins?
" Hey try going left....... try going right...... try playing the game..... oh no.... *the games playing itself* " jontron predicted sonic forces.
God, what the hell happened? It's so discouraging to be a Sonic fan because Sonic Team just cannot learn from their mistakes or their success. I mean it's not just the lack of mechanics, the level design, why the hell did they get 1 guy from lost world and 2 newbies to do level design??!!
For the 25th anniversary, they forced Classic into another game when we had Sonic Mania like a month earlier and stripped features from generations. We then delivered a game with little proper level design and arguably graphic downgrades. Have fun! - Sonic Team
J R I mean visually the game doesn’t look bad. But come on guys, Unleashed looks better than this and that game is 9 years old.
What’s worse is Forces is selling better than FREAKING MANIA LIKE COME ON
Nothing other than the fact the developers have only worked on mobile games. SEGA needs to stop cutting budgets...
Especially in Japan, Forces did pretty well over there and apparently Sonic fans there prefer it to Mania for some ungodly reason...
It’s crazy people actually appreciating Unleashed now
Unleashed is my favorite modern sonic game!
haruwu it’s mine 2 brooo, they need to make it backwards compatible so i can play it again 😭
they are doing it now you can vote for backwards compatibility on xbone
well I don't. Thought it was okay and I mostly play it for the daytime stages. Don't know why people love it so much
I meant to say "my custom character doesnt have a hurt box"
Do you really want the passive character in the tag stages to have a hitbox thus making those levels 100x more annoying?
There's no reasoning with people like this, give up.
TheLegendaryGBD sonic forces isn't even hard in the first place.. so what about giving us oh, i don't know.. a challenge?
Well, I thought it was very funny that I was able to press nothing and go through the lasers. If you check the description it says "My experience with the best sonic game ever". This video was just really a bunch of stupid shit that happened while I was playing, as well as putting in the things I disliked about the game.
Nah hitbox is the right term man
People always talks about the gameplay but I'm mainly upset about the visual presentation. Forces looks like a game that predates Generations to me. Maybe even Unleashed, which is like what, 9 years old now? It's honestly very concerning. Compare the graphical evolution between CoD: World at War & WWII, or Super Mario Galaxy & Odysssy to these Sonic titles. It's basically night and day. I would expect the presentation to look better, not about the same or potentially... worse? Even in 4K 60 FPS, there are constantly jarring things like shoddy animation, low poly models, etc. Honestly, Odysssy on its extremely limited hardware consistently looks better than this game (except on the New Donk City level, which is not pretty and really pushes the system's limits; also because Forces' Metropolis is an exception and a gorgeous stage).
The game is _technically_ more graphically advanced than its previous titles with advanced lighting and features slightly better models/textures but everything is so flat. There's almost none of those cool, dynamic camera angles that were in previous titles. Victory animations are more conservative. There's no idle animation. Prerendered cutscenes were cut for game engine-based ones. That new boost effect that replaces the motion blur is downright ugly and makes the path ahead hard to see. Even though the graphics may be a step up from previous titles, it got badly smeared by lazy stage design, a boring camera that doesn't do anything, and, well... the gimped gameplay.
This is exactly how I feel when it comes to the visuals of the game. Yes, as you sad this game is "technically more graphically advanced" with its lighting, render scaling and all of that but I honestly feel like generations and unleashed had some visual enhancements that forces lacks. Motion blur was one thing they definitely should have kept in forces, they instead replaced it with a cheesy low budget streak along the side of the screen when you boost which is actually very distracting. The models in the previous modern sonic styled games actually had depth to them, sonic had a much more contrasted look to him as well as the other characters. The new sonic model is a little disappointing honestly, his spikes are much shorter and his skin colour is a lot ligher than any of the other sonic games. The game as a whole just feels washed out despite the visual enhancements they made.
I really miss the nice angles they had in Generations and Unleashed (especially Unleashed) It added so much more flow to the game and made things much more interesting. Sonics running animation is so much more stiff and less lively than its ever been. He has lost all his fiaire that he had in the previous games. And ohh.. don't get me started on the boost. They brought back unleashed (wii) boost which was horrible and much harder on the eyes.
I can complain about the visuals all day to be completely honest but, then again. I would rather both amazing graphics, great mechanics and gameplay then amazing graphics with shitty gameplay.
Sonlirain HE2 is just a modified version of the original HE so it's probably pretty similar
Mythos of Summer
What forces really lacks is style. And substance if you compare the gameplay to generations.
Shorter quills? Looks younger? HOW COME RYAN OR JASON AREN'T VOICING HIM THEN?! I thought the whole point of Roger was to make him sound older. So, they're now going back to a younger Sonic? Ack, make up your mind, Sonic Team.
Mythos of Summer that’s bs and you know it. Forces is probably the best looking sonic game they’ve made and you can see in the minute details.
Wanna hear a joke
The red rings in sonic forces
Gum Gum Gael Gaming lmao
Someone wanna hear a better joke ?
Super sonic was supposed to be a paid dlc
Wanna hear a joke
My life
Wanna hear a better joke?
Sonic 006
Tbh I enjoyed 06 more than forces
"my custom character doesn't count as a hit box?"
there's a reason you don't lose rings when tails gets hit in sonic 2.
nimbo which helps you how?
It also means that the second player can be punished and even the AI Tails can't just do everything for you.
I don't think Sonic Forces would benefit from it though. As much as it aims to demonstrate teamwork, it has no enemy types catered to team play (remember the ones who stole your friends in Heroes!) or mechanics aside from sudden Double Boost which requires no input from the player.
The two characters switch hitboxes/positions when they do certain things.
For example, if you'd boost, it'll switch to Modern Sonic and Custom will be behind you and won't get hit.
But if you'll use a weapon, it'll switch to Custom and Modern Sonic won't get hit.
It's like Sonic Heroes except there's no actual button that switches between the two characters and it's automatic.
It sucks because Custom has a worse jump and homing attack and it won't switch to Sonic when you do those things if it's still on Custom. So you have to boost first to get the better jump and homing attack.
A Blob That is another point worth acknowledging. Sonic 2 allows two players to control both characters, Sonic Heroes has some smart formations and allows switching button for both teammates with two separate buttons - so we can shuffle in two directions, Sonic Advance 3 has a button for calling your ally to you and doing team skills and to go off topic The Wonderful 101 allows you to switch between at least 7 classes of character at any time while commanding over one hundred units since you can draw shapes as commands.
Sonic Forces has not done the work to even me switching between two characters which should be easy to map to one button (especially since they removed mechanics from Unleashed and Generations) good.
There's a major difference in that Tails' moves are really delayed, whereas Sonic and OC pratically move as one.
Somebody make a Forces project for Generations. PLEASE.
Edwin Nah someone is already on it theoretically, trying to port classic sonic's green hill to generations. God this game is awful.
I hope they do the same for Modern Sonic.
King Bradberry geez someone can’t take in the truth huh
This would allow me to play Forces' stages(With much better controls by the way) without actually having to waste my money on buying Forces. I like the idea.
Edwin Nah In the future.. Forces in Generations. Generations in Forces.
This video doesnt even show half of the things Generations did good and Forces failed in it or ruines it: Like the wall jumping, good level design, well made alternative paths, fun boss fights, A CHAOS BOSS FIGHT, (Same for Shadow), great music in Classic stages (i miss Cash Cash), camera angles changing in levels, Blaze the cat, -overpowered spindash- , a cool hubworld, Classic Sonic being relevant and more but i can't remember all now.
Yeah what about Classic Sonic and how FUCKING SLOW he is you can't get up ramps and if he does anything he slows down you HAVE TO SPIN DASH NO KIDDING
You forgot to make Classic Sonic to be fucking playable :^)
Chaos is fanservice.
Agustin Leguiza Fuck off
None of this is good, Vector. That's why it's called Sonic Forces.
GENIUS
Nipples the Enchilada Sonic Forces you to hear terrible dialogue
i don't get your joke.could you please explain me
It's a reference to a cringy line said by Knuckles in this game: "None of this is good, Vector. That's why it's called WAR."
Nipples the Enchilada sonic forces is good. It’s the broken games like 06 or boom that are bad.
1:48 binyot pls
DU YOU LIHK TO AREPEE
Oh hello again
TheTheisson DA ALL MIGHTY BINYOT
All with his legendary AR-PEE voice.
Y u play babby gams binyot pls.
It's funny because apparently the drift and shorthop were "flaws" but now that they gone people say it was a stupid decision. And that someone rail griding and boost panels are a flaw. Watch the next game people are gonna say that Sonic being able to run is a flaw
I never saw drifting as a flaw, In unleashed it was bad but it was very new. In generations, they built upon the drifting and it was so much better.
Now they take out the drifting and make the game autopilot fest. I didn't feel like i was playing the game, it felt like the game was playing for me.
Lol
A flaw? Without drifting you either need to have very sensitive controls to go around tight corners at high speeds or autopilot
haruwu in Unleashed to drift properly you had to stop boosting but I like the drift animation better in Unleashed but it was fixed later on and that's a thumbs up in my book
i used to play "Shadow the Hedgehog", it was pretty cool too
Neepo that game was hard tho
Neepo Where is that DAMN 4th chaos emerald
more levels and skill in that game... even expert mode is a thing i am still to surpass
The gunplay in Shadow is leagues better than this shit.
Half the guns are bigger than shadow
6:58 I _almost_ went to go check my steam
Unleashed on pc is where my respect for sonic will go all the way up
They'd never do it. They know that if people had the opportunity to give Unleashed another chance, they'd finally see the truth. They'd finally know that Unleashed did nothing wrong and that post-2009 Nu-Sonic is garbage in comparison. They can't afford such a thing.
GuyWithThePie No, they won't port Unleashed because the game got mediocre ratings and half of the game is garbage werehog stages which the majority of people didn't like
Cahan McLaughlin but lost world got a pc port, and that game had lower ratings
Goskp Yeah it got a port because Lost World sold really poorly on the Wii U (partly because of the Wii U's poor sales) and so SEGA wanted to squeeze more money out of it so they ported it to PC. Thats also why Bayonetta got ported to PC because of its mediocre sales and why Bayonetta 2 is getting ported to the Switch
Cahan McLaughlin uf you wouldnt button mash in the werehog stages and used unique combos then it would be fun. the main problem i have are the medals.
Generations is wayyy more challenging than this omg...
Because how hard it is to get a new time?you know the time where it shows your best time
Sometimes yes. But usually if you can jump in moments when the game requires from you the levels are more easy than sonic unleashed. But sonic unleashed has bad control by phisics. And very hard control when you don't you boost. When you can't (bacause you don't know when) jump when it's necessary the game just pass off on down a level part that makes playying longer.
Velky_Buchticka CZ and the levels are long in generation for forces you beat the levels in one minute 🤦🏼♂️
Both are pretty easy. I'd say Generations is the easiest Sonic game ever
Velky_Buchticka CZ wait you mean to tell me sonic forces isn't a movie
generations had a chaos boss fight
sonic forces is like a whole stale chicken with no seasoning, sonic generations is a big ass turkey with a fuck ton of herbs and spices, cooked with love and care.
can we start reviewing sonic games by comparing them to cooked birds please
jojo's big ass if Sonic Games are birds?
Then what are Mario Games?
all of them are fine mcribs
except for mario 2 japan, fuck that game
jojo's big ass so are McRibs better then Chickens?
i guess, mcribs are Gosh Darn tasty and amazing and mario games always deliver the goods and almost never go below "good" so byeah
For the people who say this video doesn't prove/show much to why this game is bad. The purpose of this video was to bring out the mechanics of the game and compare it with generations. Generations built upon what Unleashed started. I thought the level design/boost gameplay was great and sonic felt very fluid, well besides the 2d sections. I never really liked the 2d sections in any modern sonic game anyways. But Forces for me was clunky and stiff, sonic loses a lot of his character in this game I believe. The mechanics are simple and you don't really need to do much and that was displayed in the video. Sega said this game took 4 years of development but I call bullshit. The game is painfully easy and not to say any modern sonic game is necessary "hard" but this is just unbelievably easy especially with the mechanical nerfs. For a lot of the game, it feels like it plays for you and you don't really feel like you're doing much, its more like playing a visual novel than fully being immersed in what you're doing. This game isn't the worst sonic game, but its definitely not "medoicer" as people say it is. I think people are giving this game too much of a stretch. Anyways. I bought this game as my final goodbye to the sonic franchise as it has got my hopes up and failed me many times. Generations is the reason i stook around but they've failed me and a lot of us once again.
The water slides from Forces should return because it's actually a cool mechanic that can allow us to have much more control of our characters while allowing us to take advantage of the momentum and enemies to travel into different slides and the slides will be easier to land on then the rails due to the amount of space it provides. It has the qualities that the rail mechanic is missing in generations.
I think the mechanics are fine overall in Forces but the level design ruined them. It'll be amazing if we had to go obstacles - like a windmill - where the boost can be a tool we use to go through obstacles where you have to use the boost at the right time to avoid taking damage. Imagine if the last sectionof the level, City heights, requires us to face a giant robot that's behind the goal post to make us use the boost when it fires it's laser while we avoid the other obstacles in the section with a limited amount of boost. It'll be more epic than the quick time event in the beginning of Metal Sonic's stage.
Hearing you say the goodbye part makes me sad
I respect your opinion but I don't think your opinion is better than the ones, that believe sonic forces to be mediocre.
Chanelle Lee ya because forces is really bad how it feels and some how they made classic sonic bad
4:05 my diehard Sonic fan friend AND I MEAN DIE-HARD-LOVED-SONIC-EVERY-GAME-MOVIE-MERCHANDISE-TVSHOW-COMICBOOK-SINCE-HE-WAS-CREATED friend when he played Sonic forces.
He was in tears I've never seen a human so betrayed.
Hope he's ok
Let him play some Mania later
I don’t know man, I much prefer a straight line to interesting multi-layered level design.
What the hell did I just watch at 1:48? Bruhhhh
He became snailic
Unpopular opinion
Sonic 06 > Sonic and the Secret Rings
Damn thats very unpopular, but you like what you like
i think id rather play 06 too, i at least know i can clear it
GoldenToparican Secret Rings had a nice story but horrible gameplay. I'd rather play 06 than that piece of shit
+GoldenToparican
You thing this is unpopular try Sonic 06 and Secret rings > Unleashed, Colors and Generations.
And Yes I am serious with this.
At least Secret Rings WORKS.
Ok, but can I just say that the voice actors in this game are really fucking good
Yeah. Right on that. Everything else just falls flat on its face and isn't fun.
Noodles the Second yeah, cause for once Amy doesn't sound like she's a jigglypuff running out of breath
Thunder Tails saying "True dat" actually wants to make me die. All the rest of the voice acting was good though.
*+Thunder* Ehh...
They're not that good...
when that steam notification went off I immediately switched screens, only to realise it was from the video xd good video btw, completely agree xD
Valorial same.
*THIS IS NO TIME TO LOSE FOCUS*
Sonic Team, that's the most hypocritical thing I've heard all day.
This game is such garbage. One of my least favorite sonic games honestly
Best favorite and only favorite
I dare you to play rise of lyric
so many typos in the video pls dont mind em LMAO i type too fast for my own good
Well remember, you GOOTAA GO FEEESSST
haruwu *sos unlishd is bttr*
haruwu go t a s move q uick
When I type fast a ml make mistakes like is is
haruwu
Tbh I don’t care if the games auto pilot, at least I got to make an OC :D
Sonic Generations & Sonic Mania: 1 step forward.
Sonic Forces: 10 steps back.
Nice job, SEGA.
"hitbox"
W A S T H A T A T O U H O U R E F E R E N C E
Literally the only good thing about this game is that they fixed knuckles.
Wahbucket He could be joining forces with Tails to use the Master Emerald to power up a machine to help their fight against Eggman's army, but instead he's sending the resistance in a mission that wipes out 80% of it after he thought real hard about in one minute/one minute and a half...
Wahbucket not even, he is a terrible commander
Unleashed on ps2 will always be my fav
unleashed on ps3 was better obv but unleashed is my favorite modern sonic game
also... dont take the title literally.
I didnt enjoy it on ps3 because it was so broken for me xddd colours was pre cool too
broken? lmao it was smoothe for me
i had floors missing and shit so i couldn't finish levels
Hell no Sonic Generations was the last good 3D Sonic game. Lost World and Forces are meh and Boom Rise of Lyric was atrocious even worse than 06.
I had Lost World for 3DS and I thought the gameplay was pretty fun must of the time.
Joker I liked sonic boom
I love 06 it would of been better though if it wasnt rushed and it eggman didnt look so retarded
Boom was a really good idea
But glitches and levels ruined it
Even though lost world has a crappy story, the game itself is decent
*Grabs OC carrying a torch*
Wait... are you carrying the torch or is the OC?
They need to fire Takashi Iizuka. The guy is a cancer to the Sonic Team, and this game proves it
And then hire whom?
I don't know, but anyone with a little of knowledge about the series will be better than Iizuka. The moron forgot that in Sonic Adventure 2, Eggman blows half of the moon, and invented excuses when the thing appears full in others games.
That kind of things makes me think if Iizuka don't really care Sonic or it's just stupid af
Ladis Rivero I personally do not care even in the slightest about continuity. Plus, I do not want a single individual to take all the blame. Since Sonic Team now has a different development team from the team five years ago, it could be the inexperience of the developers that could have caused this game’s failure.
Tbh I just ignore the continuity when deciding if a Sonic game is actually good (if Sonic Team don't give a crap about continuity why should I?).
That said similar to the Adventure games I only enjoyed portions of Forces however Forces is imo a "eh" game it's good to mediocre at best/worse but that's about it, I enjoyed more stuff in Adventure than Forces (the main problems were having my hand constantly held throughout the game on autopilot and the classic Sonic stages were just bad moreover unneeded) the fact Chaos was only put into the trailer to trick Adventure fans into buying the game was insulting (as well the character de-evolution of Tails... :/).
its not his fault, its sega of japans fault
"What? Jealous you can't play on the slide, Knuckles?" Why did Amy look like she was on the verge of tears when she said that?
megafan She was probably jealous too.
4:19 RIP headphone users
Leo Oliveira so me
It’s not so bad
Mania Master221 well, it hurt me, lol
mine have to be studio grade with a good bass response...
I NOW HEAR EVERYTHING...
forces had a good story and potential and visually it was great. too bad the game was awful.
unleashed is still by far one of the best sonic games story, gameplay and visually tbbhhh
the best*
lucifer the story for forces was awful and so is unleashed. Well at least the night levels were awful
khi coolblast and how the levels being awfull make the night-time part of the story awfull?
I liked everything about unleashed, night and day.
lucifer "good story" no it didn't .....fuck off
It's unbelievable in the comment section, I knew the sonic fandom was done for but now I see it with my own eyes. If you enjoyed the game that's perfectly fine but if you're going to come on my video and say that it proves nothing and that "I was playing badly on the custom character" stages then that's just being 2 faced. Explain your reasons for why the game deserves its 7/10 from IGN ( LMAO) If you seriously think the game is good. I don't mind reading opinions, I can reason.
Funny thing these are basically all the problems I had with generations because with forces the automatic parts let me drink and eat instead of getting attacked by a flying spike ball out of nowhere
These dislikers obviously don't know what a good Sonic game is.
Like Generations, Unleashed, the Adventure games, Mania, Sonic and Knuckles, and plenty more.
Colors was honestly not that good it's too much like Forces.
i respect you even more for playing this game
How did you not show the fact that not pressing buttons for double boost still has your character perform them anyway?
6:48 believe me when i said you will be angry if the passive character got a hitbox, other game did this too, like elizabeth from bioshock infinite. so you can't complain about this feature
They could've at least put an animation of him getting hit as a nice detail. Obviously the player shouldn't get punished for it but it looks really awkward for him to go through untouched.
maybe, just like Sonic the Hedgehog 2? yeah it's okay to have a little detail
The difference is that you literally control both. It's one to one. No delay or anything.
1:52 shadow was like:what the fuck are you doing here?
I guarantee if you modded generations with all the levels from forces and kept the mechanics from generations you’d actually get what everyone thought forces would (and should) be like
No you wouldn't. The level design in Forces is awful.
Couldn't agree more, Forces is absolutely terrible
when you realized that you just paid money for Forces when you could've just continued playing Mania...
Even Unleashed does a lot of things better than this game.
"Even Unleashed" its nighttime levels may have been slightly tedious at times, but cmon, the daylight levels in unleashed were amazing.
whats funny is the first boost game in 3d is way more polished than the 4th one
what do you mean “even unleashed”, unleashed is hundreds of times better than all of the later games cause it tried something different and is actually challenging!
Don’t even compare Unleashed with Forces. Unleashed stomps on Forces so hard it’s not even funny.
Unpopular opinion: Forces gives too many costumes
Sonic Unleashed:GUD
Sonic and The Black Night:GUD
Sonic Colors:GUD
Sonic Generations:GUD
Sonic Mania:GUD GUD VERY GUD AMAZING YES GUD👌👍👏
Sonic Forces:...sega wtf?👎
Sonic Mania Plus:YES THANK YOU YA DID GUD👏👏👏👌👍👍👍
Sonic forces is literally sequel of sonic 06
reputation wise no
no its not
Your right but still is a shity game
jesus christ this video blew up wtf
Unleashed and generations>Forces
Sega needs to give Sonic Team more time for everything.
One of my favourite things about Generations was how excited Sonic would get when you got a high rank! I was actually kind of bummed out when I got an S rank in Forces and it was the same animation as every other rank. Not much, if any, extra fanfare. Ech.
And people wonder why we call these terrible modern Sonic games "boost to win".
is the story even good for sonic forces ?
Not the worst but not the best. Just like the gameplay lol
Jagg its like if you took sa2 or heroes, and then threw in war atrocities and sasuke uchiha for the villain. it doesn't mix or flow, but honestly it's a massive improvement over colors, lost world, and ESPECIALLY generations.
No, it's cliche, typical, used the friendship trope to death, and tried to be cool and edgy in a ironic way
Jagg it actually is, but everyone will give their own opinions, you should experience it for yourself amd Make your own decision
It's fucking terrible. Tonally inconsistent, wasted characters(Infinite, Mania Sonic, CHAOS, SHADOW), character derailment with Tails, I don't even know what Silver is doing here or why or how, it's just garbage all around really. There's nothing to salvage here. The only thing that keeps it from being considered Sonic 06 of this gen is that it isn't drowning in glitches.
SONIC GANARATION ITS MACH BETA
4:10 When the poor quality of Sonic Forces punches you in the gut, then RKOs you.
This was honestly hilarious with 4:12 making me die
You're not good at Sonic Forces.
Gonna be uploading a speed run very soon for you buddy ;).
Ahhhhh to show that he doesn't suck
Dude, I have moderate motor coordination issues and I can confirm, even on Hard Mode, this game is the easiest thing I've ever played. Just hold the control stick forward and jump every so often, or just let the game autopilot you most of the way. Can't believe I was excited for this game.
Eduardo Hatchet i played it on hard mode and while playing as my custom character, enemies STILL died in one shot. This game is truly pathetic.
"Hard mode" is basically just normal mode.
I dare to say 06 is better. Not kidding.
ummmmmmmm i actually like sonic forces im so triggered how could you
Real talk Sonic Forces isn't bad
tijzen :/
SuperBeanTea yes it is
But it isn't good either
SuperBeanTea It's OK imo, the only thing I really disliked was the stroy. I thought it was so stupid and I also hated Infinite. Other than that, I kinda liked it.
The PK Boys Yeah
when we will have a full 3d sonic game again, no more bullshit gimmicks like a wherehog, classic sonic, wisps, etc, just a pure sonic running
I found classic sonic and the wisps(in Colors) to be great gimmicks
I've replayed 4:00 - 4:23 so many times that's the funniest thing I've seen in a while, great editing.
Have y'all ever heard of this magical thing known as...
Opinions?
wow sonic
why so much hate to this game
Omar Alejandro Because it's boring and lazy
Sega pretty much over hyped the game after Mania came out, but that was made by fans. Along with some false advertising like "Shadow" being a "bad guy for his own reasons" and Infinite not being a real threat.
The Fact That this was made 2 minutes ago and already has so much attention is AMAZING
you could say : WHEN WE ARE TOGETHER NOTHING CAN STOP US !!
great video and agreed xd. Oh and btw did anybody notice that modern Sonic in Forces looks a lot less....spikey? on his head which reminds me of Sonic Boom.....which is never good.
Or you could say he looks a little more like classic Sonic like come on is modern Sonic that bad that they have to take away what made him different from classic sonic ( besides size )
Sonic 06 has way better level design then this shit
Lord Adz
Absolutely. At least in that game you weren't constantly going in a straight line.
I like Generations better than Sonic forces but hear me out something's they did in forces improve like how Sonic controls are better I mean like he can ture a corner but Sonic Generations had better level design and better Classic Sonic controls also I think they need to buff the spin dash in Sonic forces and his speed also Nerf a bit of his drop dash also Sonic Generations had a kinda of a weak story but infinite back story sucks more also soinc forces shouldn't make the stage more short because when you go though then it like the time you get if your speed running a stage in Sonic Generations it kinda sad tbh but Sonic Generations had heavy classic Sonics controls too but isn't that bad compare to Sonic forces also I think they should of put more of the dialogue into cutscenes because you know where you get that radio style cut scenes and there's nothing happening but you just see texts and their faces I mean those kinda of cutscenes but they shouldn't get rid of the light speed dash there no point of getting rid of it i know it was for the avatar character move but sonic should still have it like what he forgot it when he was getting tortured (btw when he got tortured he look fine did he like it) but also when did classic tails come from in Sonic Generations like huh we didnt see him at all it doesn't make no sense but that's it so hopefully you respect it maybe welp it is the Sonic fan base
The controls were not better in Forces, not to mention the bizarre weight and momentum on the characters just screws you over even more. Especially Classic Sonic. Generations provided more cooperative gameplay for both Sonics than Forces.
megaburritozero Sonic controlls like a tank in generation try going to a stop after walking a few meters. You notice that he doesn't stop right away which makes platforming without the homing attack a total pain in the ass
And Forces does it similarly, but worse
They made the controls for Xbox users, to jump in the switch version, you press B not A
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bbvfx. I love you too
I love Emilia
I do not love you, the TH-camr i am watching atm nor the 4 people saying they love you.
If Sonic games were as great as their Soundtracks Sonic would be good forever
Yeah, I felt like majority of the game was being played for me, and the levels were just too damn short because of it. The last stage was the only one, I felt they did right.
If they wanna make the best Sonic game ever, Sega do the following.
1 Have at least 3 Types of characters with Sonic and Shadow being speed types of course.
2 Have speed type gameplay exactly like Sonic adventure 2 including the scoring system not just be comboing enemies but doing certain tricks on grind rails, other specific stuns like SA2. Make getting S harder which requires more score.
3 Add one new Sonic Advance like mechanic where you can do certain techniques like the Hurricane kick or ground pound to reach certain areas.
4 Add one new mechanic, the directed homing attack where by pressing Up, down, left or right during begining of homing attack, you get to decide which angle you wanna curve to as you home in onto enemies to avoid their attacks.
5 Homing Jump, done by holding Jump button after homing attack allows you jump the enemy high above to reach certain areas or to reach other enemies to home onto which are much higher up than the usual straight in line floating enemies.
6 Add a new mechanic where you can wall run if you have momentum and triangle jump like Sonic heroes between 2 narrow areas without losing Wall run and momentum.
7 Remove boosts.
8 Have a Chao Garden.
9 Add Hub Worlds to a SA2 like game.
10 Add hidden power ups in levels, hub worlds etc.
I believe we can have very skilled gameplay and exciting level designs where you have sections such as above a pit of Lava you home onto enemies> homing attack onto wall and start running onto wall (controlling Sonic or Shadow yourself) without falling into Lava> jump off wall to another wall> homing attack onto an enemy and jump off the enemy to reach a Ledge high above the enemy.
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Or maybe just make Mania 2
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Classic Sonic =/= Nostalgia
What does rehashing have to do with a new Classic Sonic game? Sonic Forces is a modern game, and Sonic Team knows that nobody wants to see old stages again.
OK now cross out EVERYTHING on that list. And just keep Chao Garden, I'd buy forces even as garbage as it is, if it just had a Chao Garden. I'd bite the pillow and play levels just for the chaos.
Unleashed better than both
tfw u have the same gh times haru lets race
lets do it
th-cam.com/video/HeETGt6UTK0/w-d-xo.html rlly garb tho
People need to remember that this video isn't a detailed video, I shown some areas that I disliked which were the mechanics of the custom character. Some of the video was just stupid shit that happened that i thought would be funny to put in the video. I was thinking of making a more detailed video of me talking over it and further explaining my reasons for believing that this game isnt a good one but Im unsure if I should since its not the usual content I post.
7:35 "You've done plenty! Great job." lol funny for sonic forces
yeah... no, sonic forces sucks.
*"sonic forces is better than generations"*
*Quotation marks*
It's okay. It's just a joke.
At least I can play a Sonic game,I don't fucking care if it's bad or not I just wanna have fun.
Sonic Forces is not fun.
Joshua lol, people who care, You mean the people who'll bitch about one thing then the second it's gone say it was the best thing ever. Or the people who will straight lie about some things the game does.
Alison Pereira you probably never played it.
+Dark Chocolate Gamer
Well here's the thing,
You are talking about the people who get angry about Sonic's eyes and make terrible fan characters,
we are talking about the the people actually want sonic to succeed and hope that Sega will one day listen to our pleas and give a crap.
Nicky you don't have to play a game to know if it's fun
1. Sonic Generations is Overrated
2. Drifting was never needed to beat any modern sonic game. Hell, Forces as well as Colors actually made steering better when you're boosting rather than normal movement
3. Jumping and Homing Attacks don't count as autopilot, you're doing more than just holding forward or boosting
4. Does Generations have infinite air boosting? Can Sonic fly or get some insane air?
5. Exactly why are you bringing the Custom Hero gameplay into this? Is it because it has way more variety than Generations gameplay?
6. And did I mention that Sonic Generations is overrated?
I actually didn't know that Sonic had a drift in generations until 2 months later I finished it.
What does a game being overrated have to do with it’s quality?
*Drifting was never needed to beat any modern sonic game.*
What a twat, any respectable person speed running generations will use boost 100%, you just suck at teh game and think completing a stage is beating a sonic game.
*Hell, Forces as well as Colors actually made steering better when you're boosting rather than normal movement*
As expected you are just a shitty noob who just wants a movie because forces sonic doesn't even steer while moving (barely) thus making forces steering vs generations steering a moot point as you are complaing something which exists with something that doesn't.
Deyvan Salez Well the fact that Forces is always, and I mean ALWAYS compared to Generations. Like holy sh**, Sonic can't drift unlike generations, therefore bad. Sonic Colors doesn't let you drift anywhere you want, but it's loved by many?
Karan Ok the first part, you were talking about what I said about drifting and then you were saying that everyone uses the boost. You talking about drifting or boosting? I'm lost.
And I'm not exactly sure about forces movement as much cuz I haven't made the comparison to generations, but it's very similar to Colors, and I know Sonic's turns are sharper when you boost rather than when you're not. I played the game lots of times so I would know.
It doesn't look like Forces has too much air resistance like generations, and people drift just to make Sonic easier to control in Generations, so I'd rather have Sonic control better instead of relying on a drift function
"it would be better just to go with the flow"
the game is literally begging you not to do anything
not helping is the fact that touching anything results in death, so they knew this was a problem but didn't bother to fix it.
I had a lot of fun with the sonic lost world steam version and with generations and the gameplay trailer looked nice from this game, but the "autopilot" was to much for me and after playing mania, the classic stages here...I don't know :/ I had here and there fun with forces, especially in the avatar stages, but for sure was this the last 3D sonic game I will buy to release, the trailer blinded me
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Forces is better, IMO.
I'm curious to why you think that. You are allowed to explain by the way its nice seeing other opinions.
Jdniscool Shit taste
Technocity MKIII leave him alone he is just shareing his opinion
Story, mate. Sonic Generations' story was quite lacklustre.
Jdniscool FINALLY! Somebody who understands!
tfw after all these years Unleashed is still a game that has the best Graphics.
If you do not press the X button on the DOUBBLE, you only got a few secounds delay and instrumental version of the music.
It'd be nice if Sonic retained his abilities from the previous 3D Boost games, you're correct.
It'd also be nice if the Level Design accommodated for those extra abilities.