Steak Experiments - Cast Iron vs Carbon Steel Skillets

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  • Can a carbon steel skillet sear a steak as well as cast iron? That's what we're going to find out. Carbon steel is far lighter than cast iron but it's supposed to have the similar thermal properties to cast iron but it is also supposed to heat-up more evenly. We're going to dive in and find out.
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  • @BBQandBottles
    @BBQandBottles  4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    This is the 21st video in our Steak Experiment series that we've been working on over the last year and a half. If you want to watch any of the other videos in the series, here's a link to the complete playlist. th-cam.com/play/PLA8Sgnre4XTUBNybUoykMXUD0HffOCp0O.html

    • @jimburns1927
      @jimburns1927 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      BBQ and Bottles Thank you 🙏 I’ve been watching quite a few of your videos! You are always doing a wonderful job! Nothing but respect!

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Appreciate the support Jim 👊👊

    • @kimberly1567
      @kimberly1567 ปีที่แล้ว

      When comparing durability, cast iron is brittle and can be broken. I have broken a side off of two old skillets when dropped. Carbon stieel's are like a boat anchor or anvil. Indestructible . BTW, my old fave Wagner #9 i broke when dropped, i sanded the rough area on broken side and have been using as a griddle for 10 yr
      I prefer the lighter weight, quicker reaction times (up and down) and flared sidewalls of the carbon steel. I still have all of my CI but now find I only reach for CI when baking cornbread

    • @TheKraken2019
      @TheKraken2019 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BBQandBottleswhere did you get the custom carbon steel skillet? The link won’t load and says pepperjamnetwork. They don’t sell skillets.

  • @personontheinternet2164
    @personontheinternet2164 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is my first time on this channel. This was an amazing watch. Your calm and informative energy really kept me engaged throughout.

  • @craki443
    @craki443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +275

    You have to pull the steaks way before 128F if you're trying to target a medium-rare. Also, you need to take into account the effect closing the grill cover has on your cooking. The gray-bands on your steaks are way too thick and if you sent those out as medium-rare in a real restaurant, you'd re-firing two steaks.

    • @jasonthompson3964
      @jasonthompson3964 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Agreed. Needs more heat IMO.

    • @Bubbles99718
      @Bubbles99718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Going to tell him how to stack the briquettes next?

    • @chefscottharris
      @chefscottharris 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@Bubbles99718 well I didn’t want to say anything but...

    • @dazekiel
      @dazekiel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Spot on. That was not medium rare. That said, you cook to your preference regardless of method, it is up to you to adapt based on your equipment and desire. The steaks looked tasty and were far from ruined and the information was useful. I might have to look for a carbon steel pan.

    • @bryanr8897
      @bryanr8897 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      To be fair, most restaurants don't sear their steaks with a skillet. They put them right under a 600F broiler.

  • @GeorgeNadaYT
    @GeorgeNadaYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    You should wear an apron. You're gonna get grease over that nice sweater

    • @FRERABRETZ1
      @FRERABRETZ1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      it’s his moms Cosby sweater so it’s ok

    • @GeorgeNadaYT
      @GeorgeNadaYT หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂​@@FRERABRETZ1

  • @E3lx
    @E3lx ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Came for the pan comparison, stayed for the steak tutorial! Looks delicious

  • @Nanogrip
    @Nanogrip 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I have both cast iron and carbon steel pans that I'd use alternately for cooking, I love them both! Thanks to your video, I'll be searing the fat cap first, great advice. I also deeply score my fat caps so they melt a lot more while cooking, I imagine searing them first will make them even better!

    • @DavyMcKay
      @DavyMcKay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      And it minimises the potential for the steak to curl.

    • @RocketJ209
      @RocketJ209 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I gotta try scoring the fat cap! I think you might have just elevated my perfect steak! Lol thanks!!

    • @robertjason6885
      @robertjason6885 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Adds flavor to the cook as well. I agree with a poster that the top should remain open… a bit of steaming going on. Love the clarified butter suggestion. I use avocado oil as well. Works great with everything.

  • @ejnaygfantzcg
    @ejnaygfantzcg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dude it's 2:30 AM and my fridge is empty, I am trying to distract myself by watching a knife video and you do this.
    You MONSTER!

  • @BigSexysHouse
    @BigSexysHouse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You can’t just call the sliver of red in the center medium rare and the rest is something else. How do you like the Smithey carbon pan after using it more?

    • @torfinnjohnsrud793
      @torfinnjohnsrud793 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yea, the carbon steel was definitely in the well done category and the cast iron had maybe a toehold in the medium-well category. But I think these pans are generally considered for different purposes so it doesn't reflect poorly on either one, just the operator

  • @clutchbleach2057
    @clutchbleach2057 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That is a gorgeous chef knife man! Good content :) and just my 2 cents I have always used the whole garlic after being peeled and never have tasted a end or anything, just food for thought.

  • @Drmikekuna
    @Drmikekuna 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So informative! I really felt like I learned something when I watched your video. Thanks.

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Mike. Appreciate the kind words.

  • @turbotimthree
    @turbotimthree 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love diver style watches and was curious what kind of watch you are wearing in this video. Thanks

  • @jernigan007
    @jernigan007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Ahh that' s why Asian restaurants use carbon steel pans, hot and fast. Nice comparison. I'll keep to my cast iron :)

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thanks CJ!

    • @Briggie
      @Briggie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Most restaurants in general use carbon steel.

    • @joebenson528
      @joebenson528 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Briggie
      They are more corrosion resistant. I noticed in Japan they use stainless flat tops.
      Edit: *Commercial Grade* carbon steel pans contain enough chromium (~6%) to help prevent rust. To be classified as "stainless" it has to be 10%+ chromium.

    • @Joetrout
      @Joetrout 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Briggie alot have changed over to carbon steel

    • @cypresspeter2008
      @cypresspeter2008 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What Asian restaurants (name drop)? Lightness is convenient and practical.

  • @bitmasterb
    @bitmasterb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    First I have to say I absolutely love your videos. I've learned a ton and can't wait to make some ribeyes using your methods. I've tried steaks in cast iron on my gasser a few times but its been inconsistent results. Second - question...early videos you simply added regular butter to the pan to baste after turning....have you switched to clarified butter permanently?

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Great question Brian and thanks for the kind words too. Yeah, I have switched over to clarified butter because I love searing steaks at high heat with cast iron and in a few of my earlier videos I was burning the butter. I also learned how to make it at home and it’s really easy and WAY cheaper than buying it off Amazon
      Ribeyes are coming soon! Just editing a video up right now as a matter of fact.

    • @bitmasterb
      @bitmasterb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BBQandBottles good to know! I was wondering if you might say something like that. Great point about the costs - very true. If you do buy it again take a look at Trader Joe's. I haven't bought it there in a long time but from what I remember it was WAY cheaper than anywhere else. I also noticed this video didn't have the dark crust of your other videos but seemed the temp was a little lower, maybe that was why. Look forward to your ribeye video!

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, this wasn’t our best crust 😉. Thanks for the tip on Trader Joes - I’ll check ‘em out.

  • @yllib2012
    @yllib2012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The carbon steel skillet in the video is by Smithy. All are hand hammered, pre-seasoned and beautiful. A bit expensive but you are buying functional art.

    • @rvroutdoors2131
      @rvroutdoors2131 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! Came here for this. Looks pre-seasoned. Do you know if they are? And is pre-seasoned better for a newb to carbon?

  • @kerimalpkarahan5211
    @kerimalpkarahan5211 4 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Great video but I think you need to recalibrate your thermometer

    • @prenticefincannon9239
      @prenticefincannon9239 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I agree, 127 with that level of banding is suspect. Recalibration of thermometer or maybe closing the lid with pan cooking is what did it. Idk, either way a normal burner setup would probably provide a better comparison of the pans. BUT, I do like the idea of using the grill to preheat a pan instead of heating up your house with the oven in the summer if you want your steak butter basted. But firing up the grill to cook steaks to not grill the steaks seems wrong too haha

    • @SuperSteelSteve
      @SuperSteelSteve 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@prenticefincannon9239 I've been cooking professionally for 17 years... it was 100% him closing the cover.
      And his thermometer is off lol

    • @colevincent5800
      @colevincent5800 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It was less likely the thermal pro and more likely carryover, I cook to 120F and with a strong sear carryover can lead it to 135

    • @riseagan
      @riseagan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@prenticefincannon9239 You can have zoned heating if you're pan cooking on a grill. have one side on high for direct heat to sear, and the other side of the grill set lower. sear on the hot side, and then put the pan on the pan on the "cool side" with the lid closed to bake. It turns it into more of an oven environment to finish.

    • @wiseowl1580
      @wiseowl1580 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Disageee.

  • @paradigmshift7541
    @paradigmshift7541 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Based on this test, and based on further use and experience on the carbon steel skillet, do you have any preference for one over the other? Do you even need both cast iron and carbon steel in your kitchen anymore, or can all cooking be done on the carbon steel?

    • @thebigmann81
      @thebigmann81 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Carbon for steaks and chops. Cast iron for chicken 😋😋

  • @wordserf3047
    @wordserf3047 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you tried Field brand cast iron pans? They are pounds lighter than traditional and have a smooth cooking surface

  • @simplemanduke7128
    @simplemanduke7128 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Sir. And magnificent sweater selection!!

  • @BantheDan
    @BantheDan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If it cooks faster though you will have to be more precise with your timings. If it takes a little longer it should be easier to get to the right cooked-ness. However, perhaps the quicker cooking time will make less grey bits around the edges and be more consistent throughout like a reverse sear, or maybe it'll worse, hmmm. Interesting.

  • @jwsnotruth7106
    @jwsnotruth7106 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    good thing you are wearing your ring i was getting excited !

  • @thoughtswordactionbeta6959
    @thoughtswordactionbeta6959 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like the crust on the cast iron a little better. Another thing I thought of is the carbon steel is more done in the middle with almost the same crust, I think that would be a benefit to the cast iron as well.

  • @melonhead49
    @melonhead49 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude. This is one of the top steak videos ever

  • @RocketJ209
    @RocketJ209 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The clarified butter is interesting although with my method I think the avocado oil stabilizes the butter so it doesn't burn. I cook over gas on cast iron and pull at 120 for a med rare every time.
    My method. Pat NY steaks dry so you get a good sear without steaming! Let sit out at least an hr to get to room temp. Add a generous amount of Coarse salt to each side and pat into meat. Add fresh ground black pepper and pat into meat just before cooking. Sear hot medium high heat (About 450 to 500) in avocado oil about 2 minutes each side. I like to stand on steaks on side to sear the fat cap first. While searing the last edge turn heat down to medium and let temp come down to about 400. Add in fresh lightly crushed garlic cloves, thyme and butter. Lay steaks down baste in butter, garlic, & thyme till about 120. Remove and place in foil. Spoon some of the butter into steaks and add in cooked garlic cloves and thyme sprigs and wrap up. Rest 10 minutes. Best steak ever!
    2 NY steaks (1.5 to 2 inch thick)
    Coarse ground salt
    Fresh ground black pepper
    2 or 3 tbsp avocado oil
    Prep and ready in small container to easily add aromatics
    6 to 8 Fresh garlic cloves (lightly smashed)
    Small Bunch of fresh thyme sprigs
    About 1/2 to 3/4 stick butter

  • @arghidontknow
    @arghidontknow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really liked your sweater! Looks cozy.

  • @vaughnblaylock6069
    @vaughnblaylock6069 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a great video. I almost always cook a prime NY Strip that's around 2" thick, and I always sear the fat cap and edges for 120 seconds on their edges in a cast iron skillet, but I'm getting ready I think to switch to carbon steel. I find that if you start with a 2" thick steak, they will stand on their edge on their own.
    On the cook itself, I would use a higher heat to start, which would give you a better crust at the end. You can always drop the heat if you need the butter, but I always cook my steaks dry, because the fat cap is going to render down and make its own fat in the pan.
    Like the garlic, I smashed your like button. ;)

    • @j.a.1785
      @j.a.1785 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kansas City strip

  • @ahkeen
    @ahkeen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you leave the lid close while it’s searing for 4 min?

  • @JP-kg6wn
    @JP-kg6wn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eye opener, thank you much.

  • @yeelee2076
    @yeelee2076 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    loving how to talk about both pans

  • @justme-sv5vf
    @justme-sv5vf 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw your other video, and this showed up. You kept your word on the sweater😎
    Should you do the 48 hour refrigerator seasoning for filets as well? And I will get some avocado oil....I only use my Griswold cast iron, but I use the oven in the house.... raise temp to high on top and let the skillets get really hot .... then sear 3 minutes each side... then in the oven that's been preheated to 500.....I keep mine in the oven about 11-12 minutes and that ends up being about medium well

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right on! Thanks for watching. I’d try the 48 hour dry brine with filets too - no reason that shouldn’t work.

  • @1ronhall
    @1ronhall 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Winner, winner and I’m now a subscriber

  • @ranger2316
    @ranger2316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I wouldn't be ashamed to serve either one. They look fine!

  • @owenconnolly3041
    @owenconnolly3041 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video as always, very informative ! I am definitely going to get one of these pans. Probably have to get the cheaper due to enconomics etc. Please do a video comparing one of these to a French Traditional Copper Pan !! Might be fun !! And French CHefs are supposedly among the Best so why are they always using Copper and not Cast Iron !! Maybe cause its lighter ! i don't know ! hence the REquest !!! But if not possible thanks anyways and keep making these great instructional vids !! Never tried the GArlic, Ghee and Rosemary for Basting and flavor 1! Will try this in the next few days for sure !! THanks Mate !!!

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good suggestion. They use copper because it’s a great conductor of heat so the pans heat up very evenly. We should give it a shot. I’ll see if I can find one somewhere.

  • @Jin_Jon
    @Jin_Jon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The carbon steel heats up faster and cools quicker. That's why they make woks with carbon steel. Cast iron takes longer to heat up, but it retains its heat longer.

  • @iCycle086
    @iCycle086 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    The steaks look good for medium well steaks. I know you wanted med-rare, but they looked good man.

    • @eJunkee
      @eJunkee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes definitely medium-well. Way to much grey cooked area for medium rare. Center is also not pink enough.

    • @wiseowl1580
      @wiseowl1580 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Disagree. Perfection.

  • @jethead
    @jethead 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Haven't watched the video yet, but from just the opening screen, I find myself WAY more interested in the knife than the steak cooking experiment....

  • @Flockingtheherd
    @Flockingtheherd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I liked the test you did however I felt the explanation was far too short for why carbon steel was better. Which of the two stakes did you find to taste better? Did the cast iron render down a little bit more of the fat due to it cooking slightly slower?

    • @cameronbrown8757
      @cameronbrown8757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed. The crust certainly looked more consistent and darker on the cast iron. I was surprised to see carbon steel walk away with the win. Seemed like the decision was made on light-weight and not actually the cook/sear capabilities of the pan. If you were going to base it on the weight, why even do the sear test?

    • @keithtauber4153
      @keithtauber4153 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cameronbrown8757 Agree. Cast iron is better.

  • @atta1798
    @atta1798 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You know how to enjoy life!!! Beautiful~~!! Great taste!!!

  • @Bubbles99718
    @Bubbles99718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Another title could be 30$ cast iron vs 275$ carbon steel skillets.

    • @germangamekiller
      @germangamekiller 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A good carbon steel skillet doesnt need to be expensive. Tbh, the one I use, has been used as a decorative thingy in someones garden. I asked if I could have it, deep cleaned it once, reseasoned it, and boom, best pan I ever owned.

    • @Bubbles99718
      @Bubbles99718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@germangamekiller The pt is he didn't. My statement stands

    • @atomicmuffins1328
      @atomicmuffins1328 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed. Price should drive anyones purchase, if you shouldn’t afford it then don’t. I was tired of buying non stick and other pans that only seemed to last a year or two. Got the same lodge he used in the video and it’s been going strong for ten years. Now that I’m out of college and making big boy money, maybe I’ll treat myself on one of these expensive smithy products. 30$ cast iron is great because anyone can afford it, and like you point out-the finished product is indiscernible. Smithy is more of a bragging right and a buy just because one can.

    • @ProfessorIgor
      @ProfessorIgor ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a $40 steelie from Ikea and a 100yr old Wagner Ware cast iron. I love them both, but I prefer the steelie for the fact that I can change the temp in it more quickly, and it's more evenly distributed than the iron. But it's just nit-picking really...

  • @robtierney5653
    @robtierney5653 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Usually when you sear a steak, you use Salt N. Pepper and a surface temp of 500 to create a shell entrapping the juices right?

    • @wiseowl1580
      @wiseowl1580 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your over thinking it. Which killed it.

  • @richmonroe2930
    @richmonroe2930 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you use the same seasoning on both pans carbon, steel and cast-iron? If not why?

  • @pragmatist165
    @pragmatist165 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just find that if I have to turn down the carbon steel pan, it takes too long to reheat .. so I don’t think the heat retention of carbon steel is really good enough

    • @georginaK21
      @georginaK21 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's also a plus though, if you find that you are cooking too high of a temperature the carbon steel will respond quicker when you turn down the gas, whereas with cast iron you turn it down and it takes much longer to respond which makes all the difference between being cooked and burned. Sometimes you want fast response times, which is why copper bottomed pans are so loved.

  • @TrendingintheWorldToday
    @TrendingintheWorldToday 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    WooHoo, going to try this Saturday..........New Subscriber here. Thanks!

  • @lawrencegoodstein6539
    @lawrencegoodstein6539 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do a comparison between a nonstick ceramic pan versus cast iron

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Already done! - th-cam.com/video/b4t6tffWbys/w-d-xo.html

  • @rickeycarter
    @rickeycarter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just made some skirt steak in my smithey carbon steel pan and it turned out great. My cast iron has decades of seasoning. The carbon steel seasoning will need work. I’m looking forward to that work.

    • @paradigmshift7541
      @paradigmshift7541 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      After some time now with your carbon steel any recommendations on which one is a better buy, carbon steel or cast iron? Do you actually need both in your kitchen or can one be enough?

    • @rickeycarter
      @rickeycarter 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paradigmshift7541 I use both daily. My smithey carbon steel is now as black as coal and is great to use. I tend to make quesadillas, arepas, grilled cheese and small volumes of meat in the carbon steel. I use my larger cast iron when i need more space. Both cook very similarly so for me it is size.

    • @paradigmshift7541
      @paradigmshift7541 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rickeycarter because i'm a total beginner at cooking and unsure, do you think it would be accurate to say cast iron is better to cook steaks medium rare? in this video the cast iron gave a little bit better crust/brown searing, but also the inside was more rare. carbon steel got great searing, but a smidge less than the cast iron, and it seemed to cook the steak to medium/medium well.

    • @rickeycarter
      @rickeycarter 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paradigmshift7541 the best way to cook a steak is, in my opinion, is reverse sear. The bulk of the cooking is low temp in an oven and them seared at high heat (any steel pan) for the crust and color. Carbon steel does great and heats a little faster than cast iron. Both are great. Get s cheap lodge pan and a cheap carbon steel pan and experiment. They pans will cost less than good steaks

    • @paradigmshift7541
      @paradigmshift7541 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rickeycarter ahhhh i see, that was very enlightening and helpful. I guess my question was a bit silly as it was on the basis that pan fry was the only method considered. i was totally oblivious that if other cooking methods are used, i'd only be using the skillets to quickly sear at the end. thanks for the tips rickey

  • @Ken19700
    @Ken19700 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have both cast iron and carbon steel skillets and I can't tell the difference in the way they cook.

  • @DeweyKiloBrown
    @DeweyKiloBrown 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    where can I find this wonderful fine carbon steel pan ? I feel I reeky need this one to my collection ! buy the way awesome testings !

  • @1ronhall
    @1ronhall 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video ...... I’m always seeking quality cooking tips and techniques to achieve the perfect steak!!

  • @anthonyv3732
    @anthonyv3732 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another great job! You rock everything brutha!
    … Maybe pull the steaks at 120 degrees... likely the thinner grass fed beef… I also find dry-brined steaks to cook faster… See how 120 turns out or get thicker steaks... I find 1.5”-1.75” thickness way more forgiving...thanks again man - Show your videos to all my family and friends

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching and spreading the word Anthony. 👍👍

    • @jeffreylam3584
      @jeffreylam3584 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree! And there is residual cooking so the temp will increase 3-5 degrees after pulling off the grill.

    • @ElDuardo01
      @ElDuardo01 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I dont understand that. How can it get even hotter when its off the grill? Doesnt make sense thermodinamicaly. Maybe im too close minded as a chemistry student 😂

    • @p.jeffreyungar4908
      @p.jeffreyungar4908 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ElDuardo01 The temperature close to the surface of the meat is considerably higher than the goal. It will even out as it rests, and the middle will rise higher as the surfaces cool. Eventually the whole steak will cool down, of course. Don't forget your physics classes 😉

  • @kimberlindy
    @kimberlindy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I learned more from this one video than the 25 videos I watched before this one. Incidentally, I have the same Weber grill, Thermoworks instant thermometer, and also use an infrared thermometer to see what the temperature is of my pan before adding oil.

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great setup!! Thanks for the kind words too.

  • @jwestrik9308
    @jwestrik9308 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have both, as well as stainless 7 ply and copper. But the Carbon steel pan I have (De Buyer) on induction and electric hobs was loosing its flatness , e.g. centre down where all the oil was pooling. I had to bash the centre up with a wooden log so when it got to a cooking temperature it changed to be exactly flat. But heating it even more would again spin it on the stove. A cast iron pan is more likely to stay flat. On gas it is less noticeable.

    • @invisiblekid99
      @invisiblekid99 ปีที่แล้ว

      I cannot stand pans that do that, hate it. I can live with the uneven cooking that you can get with cast iron, but if a pan stays flat, that's the biggest bonus for me and cast iron does that...as far as affordability goes.

  • @jeromedenis4754
    @jeromedenis4754 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Too well done guy.

  • @kinglear5952
    @kinglear5952 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gret video: thank you for doing it. How should I adjust cooking times relative to the size and weight of a steak?

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My number one recommendation is to cook to temp not time. If you want medium rare, pull at 128F.

    • @kinglear5952
      @kinglear5952 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dear BBQ and Bottles, What a gentleman you are to reply that quickly. So, to be clear, does that mean to stop cooking once it reaches the exact temperature?

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly! Whenever you’re grilling or searing something, search online to find the internal temp that maps to your desired doneness.

    • @kinglear5952
      @kinglear5952 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BBQandBottles Well I never knew that. I will tell you how I get on. I could never make sense of time guides as the time seemed to depend on the thickness of the steak.
      Again thank you from Brighton, UK.

  • @lkeve
    @lkeve 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your command of English sir. Also. Nice vest. How do you keep it clean while you cook? Are you Canadian?

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Steaks aren’t too messy. If we’re doing a messier cook, then we just wear an apron.

  • @dustinirwin1
    @dustinirwin1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don't think either of these was seared enough. I'd flip every 60 seconds until they have a more consistent crisp across the majority of the surface.

  • @7106jazz
    @7106jazz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As One Gets Older That Cast Iron Pan Just Keeps Getting Heavier.LOL

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hear ya. Carbon steel is a great alternative.

  • @2cartalkers
    @2cartalkers 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What brand of carbon steel pan was used in this experiment? I am in need of a carbon steel pan and I like that handle.

    • @annietjiehuang
      @annietjiehuang 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is Smithey farmhouse skillet.

  • @HughRogers609
    @HughRogers609 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think it cooked quicker cos you did it with the hood down. You're adding indirect heat from the BBQ as well as direct from the pans.

    • @mandolinman2006
      @mandolinman2006 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The comment about cooking quicker being part of the material used has nothing to do with the hood being down. Both skillets should have cooked the steak a the same time. However, the steel cooked it quicker.

  • @brianharder7714
    @brianharder7714 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just got a d seasoned a Misen 12 inch carbon steel pan. Steak tomorrow. I find that doing an initial sear for a couple of minutes and then pulling it off for a 5 minute rest and then going back in for the garlic and butter basting for another 90 seconds to 2 minutes a side avoids those grey bands completely.

  • @jimburns1927
    @jimburns1927 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Great Job 👍 I’ve been a chef over thirty years and always love using carbon steel pans! Just takes getting used to the faster heat reactions both gets hot faster and cools down quickly! Needs much less energy than Cast iron! Both types of pans are awesome Cookers!

    • @Freeflier1978
      @Freeflier1978 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have a matfer carbon steel pan and love it

    • @kodybecker89
      @kodybecker89 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have some lodge cast irons and wanted to invest in some field quality cast iron pans because i have recently used one and there is a big difference in quality between lodge and field that was quickly realized and i have used cast iron my entire life but now seeing more and more about carbon steel im not sure what to do in your chef’s opinion is there a reason to have both or would it be better to opt one for the other ??

    • @davidhunternyc1
      @davidhunternyc1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kodybecker89 I think the iron skillet in the video is a Field Skillet. I have one and love it. So much smoother than a Lodge.

  • @user-vi3tb3bw5t
    @user-vi3tb3bw5t 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How did you call it a win for the carbon steel the cast iron had a better crust and wasn't as overcooked. You're also comparing was obviously a high-end Boutique carbon steel pan versus a standard Lodge you should really compare it to a stargazer pan or just compare with the lodge carbon steel

  • @Hotsaucedeluxe
    @Hotsaucedeluxe 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you think you would've gotten better results from a fancier carbon steel pan? I've been looking at Mauviel and De Buyer pans.

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m not sure it gets any fancier than the Smithey Farmhouse Skillet. Check it out - it’s $350.

    • @FurleyGhost
      @FurleyGhost 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL!

    • @ytreece
      @ytreece 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got my carbon steel pan from Walmart in a moment of need for a skillet I could use on a campfire that I could also throw in my carryon to return home. It has been such a good pan, I never bothered to get another one. I’m not one to skimp on cookware either. It’s a damn good pan though 😂.

  • @benalcott8427
    @benalcott8427 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the carbon steel pan that you are using it is beautiful would love to get one

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  ปีที่แล้ว

      Here's the link - bit.ly/3md51EN

  • @filosofodemierda
    @filosofodemierda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You could also used infused ghee with garlic and rosemary although I guess it wouldn't have the same flavor.

    • @wiseowl1580
      @wiseowl1580 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Too specific. Beef Tallow is a better option.

  • @mmsdcb9081
    @mmsdcb9081 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What kind of steak should one buy?

  • @M1911jln
    @M1911jln 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Looking at the color profile of those steaks confirms to me why I cook steak sous vide.

    • @masoncochran9472
      @masoncochran9472 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      His thermometer wasn’t calibrated properly and the surrounding air was too hot

  • @leebroderickhyunji246
    @leebroderickhyunji246 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful!

  • @car24dude
    @car24dude 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dang, I just had my iPad replaced, I smashed the like button and crushed, cracked, destroyed my iPad. No insurance will replace my iPad.

  • @dimmacommunication
    @dimmacommunication 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm rewatching this video cause it popped in my suggested , damn the problem of cast iron is that when used 1 handed it hurts my back ( the heavy leverage triggers my back)

  • @Jasmine-rf3zc
    @Jasmine-rf3zc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you tell me what is best size for steak?

  • @alkalk8938
    @alkalk8938 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cast iron and carbon steel are different tools, asking which is better is like asking which is better between a truck and a sports car. Cast pans are good for use on moderate power burners where they can 'store' a bunch of energy and give you a good sear. Carbon steel is great if you have a high power burner, a smoke hood or outdoors, you'll be hot fast. This was pan frying, not searing. Searing is only for a few minutes, the cooking to get the desired temp should be done either before or after depending on which technique you prefer

  • @wemcal
    @wemcal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Two cousin skills going at each other... great video... carbon steel only for its light weight... although I’m a Castiron man

  • @ericschmidt3560
    @ericschmidt3560 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My mouth is watering 🤤

  • @RobFishbein-ju2yk
    @RobFishbein-ju2yk ปีที่แล้ว

    Great test. Wish I was there to taste. Cheers.

  • @pragmatist165
    @pragmatist165 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use cast iron.. my Le creuset oven items when preparing Daubes or casseroles..my carbon steel pan looks terrible.. stainless steel blotches all over the pan.. is that because carbon steel pans doesn’t cope with acidic food .. I did season the pan, and now I want to fix the pan to get rid of the blotchedly stainless steel colour with blotches of black everywhere too all over the pan.. some of that blackeness is I assume cooked on food
    How can I restore it ?

    • @richardgonzales4072
      @richardgonzales4072 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Season your carbon steel pan again. Acidic foods will remove the seasoning if left on for too long. Not a big deal.

  • @victorthai250
    @victorthai250 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thats a beautiful carbon steel pan where did you get it? link isnt working

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just tried it and it worked for me. Give it another shot. It’s the Smithey Farmhouse skillet.

  • @gwine9087
    @gwine9087 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice, but I would expect good results from a $300 carbon steel pan.

  • @honestnewsnet
    @honestnewsnet 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where can I get a sweater like that? Brand?

  • @jacobmurphy1203
    @jacobmurphy1203 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the look of that carbon steel pan but the amazon link in the description just takes me to a basic lodge carbon steel pan? Not the amber colored one used in the video

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The one we used in the video is the Farmhouse Skillet by Smithey if you’re looking for it. I think it was $275 so we put a link to a more affordable option in the description.

    • @jacobmurphy1203
      @jacobmurphy1203 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much!

  • @jwesboy
    @jwesboy ปีที่แล้ว

    My concern on the "Sear" is does the Carbon pan have NO warp-age? Because, non-flatness will cause an un-even sear!!

  • @matts1089
    @matts1089 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like you’re using a thermopen? I have one and have been let down it isn’t nearly as accurate as I was hoping for. I pull at 120 and it comes out medium well. I went back to just using my instinct and I always get a perfect medium rare. I appreciate the video though I’ve been giving some thought to investing in some Smithey pans. They are beautiful!

    • @mikegu2527
      @mikegu2527 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Poke the probe thru the side for a more accurate reading of the center temp

  • @cameronhedges5199
    @cameronhedges5199 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you tried the butter aging method?

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not yet. Maybe once I get a fridge that I can dedicate to aging my beef

  • @oak7325
    @oak7325 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do a video on solid sliver pan vs silver lined copper pan please

  • @Juos10kustu
    @Juos10kustu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    what kind of carbon steel pan is that ? why is it that colour and why there is no patina ?

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Here’s a link to the pan. bit.ly/3md51EN. It came pre-seasoned

  • @omegaranch6579
    @omegaranch6579 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for pointing me to this video. In my pull out drawer under my cook-top I have 2 Matfer Bourgeat carbon steel skillets and two cast iron skillets - one a gorgeous 100+ year old Puritan. I love them all and find that the wall construction is the differnentiator - if I'm cooking a one pan meal (which I am wont to do) I go with the cast iron. Whereas the carbon steel side lend themselves to flipping or mixing ingredients in the pan over the stove.Two nights ago though I used the Puritan to cook two rib eyes, starting on the stove and finishing to temperature in the oven. I use a Thermoworks Dot to monitor temperature while cooking . Thank you for the video!

  • @carlw180
    @carlw180 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Try sous vide. Perfect every time! I did enjoy the video. I will try avocado oil next time I sear a steak.

    • @wiseowl1580
      @wiseowl1580 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Surprised people have not realized Avocado oil is the best/affordable option without olive over flavoring. I am glad you are awake! Now the surge in price of said oil. 🙄

  • @meat_loves_wasabi
    @meat_loves_wasabi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kinda strange... He remove the steaks @ around 127F so it should still be medium rare unless grass fed beef retains a lot of residual heat
    normally I sous vide my steaks between 129F to 131F depending on the type of beef

    • @dt7197
      @dt7197 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You want to take steaks OFF heat, especially high heat, at 118-125 the latest. 128 is way too hot, remember the outside of the steak when you cook this way is extremely hot and that heat is going into the meat. Meat continues to cook for minutes after you remove it from the pan. So the internal temp of these continued to rise to probably 140 or so while they rested.

  • @theoriginalbullebear3721
    @theoriginalbullebear3721 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice sweater bro... Bravo👏👏.👏👏.

  • @wallace49
    @wallace49 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The high temp is great for the sear, but you can get a more even cook through the meat if you then finish at a lower temperature.

    • @wiseowl1580
      @wiseowl1580 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe you should make a video. 😂

    • @hypat1aa
      @hypat1aa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I use thicker cuts for rare/med rare, and reverse sear, finish on a very hot pan, usually cast iron. I usually use my Smithey pan or a pro 2 burner Lodge 2 sided griddle/grill.(see them on Chopped reruns, FANTASTIC griddle)
      No way is that Smithey better than its cast iron cousins, and the Lodge is just so good.

  • @richardleveille6240
    @richardleveille6240 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Grass fed beef cooks quicker than grain fed. Please start pulling your steaks at 115. Love the channel my man!

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Richard - appreciate the support 👍👍

    • @Chuckles4200
      @Chuckles4200 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At 115 it will still be walking! Haha

  • @350streetracer
    @350streetracer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The carbon steel skillet listed is not the one in the video.

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s right. They don’t sell that one on Amazon. If you want to see the exact one, check out the Smitheys Farmhouse Skillet.

  • @tulekahju
    @tulekahju 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just a little tip if you're using a meat thermometer to cook steak; take it out -10f of your steak preference. The residual heat when it rest will settle spot on to your ideal steak then.

    • @davidhunternyc1
      @davidhunternyc1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So are you saying for med rare it would be best to take the steaks off at 118º ?

    • @tulekahju
      @tulekahju 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davidhunternyc1 Well, if your goal is 128F then yes take it off the heat at 118F, but medium-rare is clocked at 130-135F; at least that is what I've been told. Either way taking it off the heat ≈ -10F before your goal temperature will typically get you where you want it once it's done resting.

    • @davidhunternyc1
      @davidhunternyc1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tulekahju My guess is why there was so much grey in these steaks was that the pans weren't hot enough before he put the steaks on? They slow cooked too much before they got a sear?

    • @tulekahju
      @tulekahju 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidhunternyc1 Im not entirely sure since its been a while since I watched the video, and Im not entirely inclined to rewatch it. I mainly just recall that he took them off too soon for his desired end temperature; hence the original comment.
      What I may say as someone who cooks with CI I tend to preheat my CI for 10 minutes, but if Im going for a high temperature like what steak requires for a sear I increase the heat gradually, because I dont want to warp my skillet; especially important if youre cooking on the stove (You dont have to be gradual if youre preheating in the oven, or enclosed in a grill). Ill set it to med-low/med for 5 minutes then raise it a notch or two from there every few minutes until I get to the heat setting that I want.
      A few things that may prevent a sear:
      Pan temp is too low
      Moisture (pat the steaks dry with a paper towel before cooking)
      Moving it too early/often

  • @twistedtwitt
    @twistedtwitt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I do not believe salt permeates all the way through a steak. Good video and good information. thanks

    • @omniryx1
      @omniryx1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are correct, it does not, at least to any appreciable depth. The overnight advantage is that the exteriors dry nicely, not that the steak is salted through and through.

  • @PursuingHeaven
    @PursuingHeaven 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know how to good a decent steak but you gave me some great tips I will try. I love my cast iron for steak and my stainless steal for fish. I am planning on buying a a carbon steel one soon just to see what I am missing.

    • @keithtauber4153
      @keithtauber4153 ปีที่แล้ว

      I doubt you are missing a thing. Cast iron is as good as it gets.

  • @AA-zi5io
    @AA-zi5io 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cual de las dos sartenes es la ganadora?

  • @DholIsLife
    @DholIsLife 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Shape of the Carbon Steel also is affecting your sear, it doesn't look completely flat. Great video though!

    • @wiseowl1580
      @wiseowl1580 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The shape of your head does not process correctly. These were perfecr.

    • @vesselofmercy6988
      @vesselofmercy6988 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wiseowl1580 Nah, the gray band was massive. Charcoal grill searing at a much higher temp would help that a lot. Fairly thick steak, so a reverse sear would be great.

  • @IcybernateCaptCliff
    @IcybernateCaptCliff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Put coarse salt on the fat caps the day before cooking to draw out water, makes the fat crisper

    • @mumble97
      @mumble97 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      why coarse does that work better than not coarse

    • @yalkn2073
      @yalkn2073 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mumble97 personal preference

    • @EqualsDeath
      @EqualsDeath 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You NEVER put salt on the fat

    • @Aaronsm83
      @Aaronsm83 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s an interesting idea, but would that really work? I know that when dry brining, salt draws out water, then forms a brine. Some water in the brine does evaporate in a fridge, but I believe that once salt and water migrate back into the meat it reduces water loss from evaporation during cooking. And dry brined meat tends to remain moister, because the water-conserving effect outweighs the evaporation in the fridge in most cases. So why would this work?

  • @justinpatterson5291
    @justinpatterson5291 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So does this mean a copper pan would cook it too fast?

  • @ianbrown4242
    @ianbrown4242 ปีที่แล้ว

    Came for the pan comparison, stayed for the outrageous sweater
    .

  • @jasonhall585
    @jasonhall585 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    First off, love the series. Now for the crust, during the final comparison you say that they’re the same but after the first turn the cast iron crust looks a lot better and more even than the carbon steel. You even say that you don’t know about the carbon steel crust and would try to fix it. For that reason I thought the cast iron would win. Did you fix the carbon steel crust somehow? What made you change your mind about it in the end? Thanks.

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I fixed it a little bit by basting it heavily in the butter, but to be honest these two weren’t the best crusts I’ve gotten. I just really like how light weight the carbon steel was and how it heat up more quickly and evenly than the cast iron and it seemed to cook faster too

    • @scottmatthews1039
      @scottmatthews1039 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could just be the way the steaks were cut, could be fat around, causing 'cupping', could be where the steaks were cut from original piece... but I'd 'still buy that'. Thanks for the vid!

    • @cameronbrown8757
      @cameronbrown8757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BBQandBottles But if the decision was to be made on the weight of the pan, why do the sear test at all? Great video on the process of making a steak, but the end verdict was not convincing and seemed a bit biased.

    • @keithtauber4153
      @keithtauber4153 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cameronbrown8757 Agreed. Some people like that Chefs use carbon steel so it must be better. At best carbon steel is equal to cast iron, not better. Lighter is not better. Holding in heat, nothing beats cast iron as it is thicker then carbon steel. Plunking a steak down on cast iron doesn't cause any loss of heat.

  • @octavio3839
    @octavio3839 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i like my steaks very rare. a hard sear. and still moving lol. but man i love your videos. keep up the good work ;) i would donate if i wasnt out of work right now :) but i will in the future

    • @BBQandBottles
      @BBQandBottles  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for the kind words my man. Please keep your money - just supporting our channel by watching our videos is more than we could ask for👍. Best of luck finding work.

    • @stefane.r.r.6032
      @stefane.r.r.6032 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ne careful with infected Toxo meats.