Steak Experiments - Cast Iron Skillet vs Stainless Steel Pan
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- Ever wondered whether you really need to sear a steak in cast iron? We undertook a steak experiment here to cook two NY Strips side by side to check out the difference. It might actually surprise you.
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This is the 18th video in our Steak Experiment series that we've been working on over the last year and a half. If you want to watch any of the other videos in the series, here's a link to the complete playlist. th-cam.com/play/PLA8Sgnre4XTUBNybUoykMXUD0HffOCp0O.html
Can you try the same experiment with the Solidteknics Noni pan? It is a 3mm thick ferretic no nickel stainless steel.
@ BBQ and Bottles
That's awesome. I really enjoyed this video. Thank you for sharing.
why kosher salt?
One thing to consider IR thermometers really don't like working on shinny surfaces
I would expect even cooking with Cast iron myself. You mentioned this but not sure you thought far enough about the BBQ acting like an oven. It Does and with the ambient air in the 'Oven' being so High (nearer the pan temps) it tends to equalize the cooking utensil temps as well. You should see more variations if u don't close the lid.
There is a major difference between a "Fry Pan / skillet" and what you used . . . a "Saute Pan" which is a bad idea if you are looking for a crisp crusty surface area of your steak. Keep in mind, I'm a cast iron guy all the way. But if I were to use stainless steel, I would opt for the fry pan, not a saute pan. A fry pan or skillet (they're the same) has flared sides which encourages evaporation which is good when you're frying. A saute pan usually has higher walls, but more importantly the walls of the pan are strait, which makes it harder for the pan to evaporate (as compared to a fry pan). This leads to a steaming effect on the steak. Steam is the enemy of frying. As men of steak we must all declare war on steam. I stopped taking hot showers because I hate steam so much.
"I stopped taking hot showers because I hate steam so much." 😂
"As men of steak we must all declare war on steam. I stopped taking hot showers because I hate steam so much."
You also lose hair faster when bathing with hot water.
@@baldino9165 Wait seriously? Damn that's why my hair is always falling out
@@xxxxxx5868 tho if you're genetically destined to lose hair and lose hairline, it doesn't matter in the long run I guess. But I still avoid it.
Ive learned something thanks
When you measured your temperatures you didn't callibrate the infrared thermometer. Shiny stainless vs dull black surfaces reflect differently. Also, since your stainless steel pan looks slightly discolored on the bottom in places you would always get different readings as you moved along the surface.
Totally agree. Infrared thermometer is greatly affected by the emissivity of the surface. Black surfaces = high emissivity and accurate readings. Silver surfaces = low emissivity and inaccurate readings with the setup you have.
Yes indeed, the shiny surface is throws the IR off
I was hoping others had pointed this out. Great observation
I also don't know why you would try this on a grill outside with wind.... Should of done it on a stove top.
yep.
For the uneven heat on the stainless steel, that might be due to how that thermometer measures temperature. It records the infrared that's radiating off objects, and shiny metal doesn't give off as much infrared at the same temperature. The thermometer could have been measuring the grill lid reflecting in the pan, or anything stuck to the pan.
Glad you said it. I learned those thermometers don't work on stainless the hard way. That pan was definitely hotter than the temp read.
Dude, imma call my Grandmother and tell her you stole her cardigan.
Tell her it’s nice and warm and great for grilling when it’s cold out.
@@BBQandBottles Your cardigan is so beautfiul just so you know
Rotfl
What are u gunna gain from it?
Daaamn
FYI - IR thermometers aren’t accurate when reading shiny surfaces like stainless.
Came to the comments to say this 😀
@@PoplarForest Me too!! XD
@@javiTests Me three. I knew the stainless steak would be overdone because the IR thermometer is going to WAY under-report the temp.
@@SaneAsylum amen to that.
Then I suppose those who have bleached their face IR can't detect corona fever😁
My guess is that it's because you used a bottom-disc stainless pan instead of a full clad pan. They have drastically different heat retention / conduction.
You need to adjust the laser thermometer’s Emissivity to transition from black cast iron to polished steel. Your readings were not accurate.
Glad someone else noticed that😂
Yeah.
I don't know anything about thermometers, but I did notice comments from less than one day ago and from a week ago getting little love hearts and yours didn't. You're obviously not a nice person....or you could just be correct and he doesn't like it...truth hurts. ALL the best.
Totally forgot this, but also he was cooking a way smaller steak on the stainless steel and started cooking it first.
Reading would likely have not been accurate eve by "adjusting" Emissivity of stainless steel is too low to be compensated reasonably for background temperatures (the cold "sky" temperature in this case). The reason he got a "hot" reading is because the steel is blemished so emissivity is way higher, which is another reason why it would be hard to compensate, because it's difficult to know the degree of emissivity of steel in that surface state. Maybe cooking oil has god emissivity and he could have used it as a known emissivity surface.
The stainless steel meat looked like a smaller cut of meat, which is why it “overcooked”, I think. Both looked really good and one for medium lovers, the other for medium rare lovers.
Agreed, it would have been nice if they were identical thickness and size
I was thinking the same
agreed
Exactly.
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Amazing - this made my day
@@BBQandBottles Respect.
Lol
You win the net.
Way to freakn funny
So I tried this today for the Fourth with the cast iron and everything else u did and it came out absolutely amazing thank you
Awesome. Happy 4th of July.
The IR thermometer will not give an accurate reading off the stainless steel. The emissivity of stainless is low so the optical temperature reading tends to be confused by reflections.
True, though many thermometers offer adjustable emissivity setting, which solves the problem.
Pretty damn useful comments, thx
@@janvesely6353 They do, but he didn't adjust it between the two
Although emissivity can be adjusted, getting an accurate reading from a shinny surface is basically impossible. I've partaken in testing this in real life with some hot plates during a thermal class.
Correct, I was going to comment this.
The easiest way to check if the stainless steel pan is hot enough is to throw a drop of water in, if the water sizzles it's not hot enough, if the water turns into a ball like mercury then it's time to add the oil and the steak.
Exactly , are you a chef or something Gareth ?
@@kimberlyalesley1772 no, but I have worked in a hotel kitchen and I have been cooking since I was a little kid.
@@galesito1733 Who would you say was your first teacher ?
@@kimberlyalesley1772 I learned to cook through trial and error. I've used a few recipe books over the years but usually if I like a particular dish I work out how to cook it myself. I do all the cooking at home so I get loads of practice.
@@galesito1733 I bet you might have ruined a lot of dishes practicing to be good at cooking whatever meal in question . What meal gave you the hardest fight trying to perfect if you can remember that ?Where are you writing from anyway ?
One thing to consider with checking temps using an infrared thermometer is that a shiny metal surface will have a lot actual higher temperature than a cast iron pan. That's because the cast iron pan is closer to a perfect black body emitter. A stainless pan will have an actual higher temp than the IR read temp because it has a lower emissivity. Don't take my word for it, check a shiny surface using an IR device and then check it with a contact device like a thermocouple (Thermipen for example). At 400 F, the stainless pan will likely actually be 30% higher.
While I have used cast iron and canola/vegetable oil exclusively for my steaks for years, last year when visiting my in-law's I seared some steaks with on stainless steel (using olive oil) because they didn't have a cast iron in the house and I tell you what, the crust on that ribeye was ridiculously good from the crunch. I can't stop thinking about that texture.
I don't know if you're still using canola oil but it's pure poison and not fit for human consumption. Seed oils are responsible for a great deal of epidemic sickness since they were foisted on the public in the early 1900's. And olive oil will oxidize on high heat, causing similar issues to the seed oils. Oxidation is the enemy to health, not saturated fats. This is why the poster used avocado oil and clarified butter. They can handle high heat and remain stable.
now i cant stop thinking about it too. gotta go grab a ribeye.
I love my cast iron. But I have a stainless skillet with a 1/2” plate on the bottom. It does very well.
he should have 17 inch cast iron, cooked all four at same time
I just had a steak off cast iron for dinner, yet mouth’s still watering watching this 🤣
Right on 👊👊
I cook steaks (and other meats) in both a cast iron and a stainless steel, just depending on my mood. They both come out great. The stainless steel should have a more even temperature if it has an aluminum or copper core, but the cast-iron will retain more heat due to its much larger mass. I actually prefer the stainless steel because it's much lighter and easier to wield. But the cast iron cost me 12 dollars, and the stainless steel was 10 times that much. So if money is an issue, it's cast iron all the way. As far as clean-up times, I always deglaze my pans and reduce into a delicious sauce while the steaks are resting, so it's an easy clean either way.
wrong wrong wrong… a high quality cast iron will retain more heat than SS the second you drop that cow in... and SS will NEVER get seasoned like a good cast iron skillet will
You must not have a Griswold for sure!
Yeah, I've never noticed that cast iron does better than stainless. I have an induction stove, so I get almost instant temperature changes in the pan; when I drop the steak into the preheated skillet, I briefly turn the dial up to compensate for the temperature drop.
@@dickieloo2544 You can never make good fond in cast iron
@@JimNortonsAlcoholism I'm willing to bet you even use soap to wash your cast iron pan... you use stainless when you want to cook something and not have the pan affect the flavor, where as, you want cast iron to grill meats, cause you wanted that amazing "seasoning" from the past meats to enhance that steak... Best example of this is the first steak you grill on a new bbq... something is missing and the flavor off that bbq only get better the more you grill on it... Thanks for the opinion... please bring an informed one next time
This guy is just making me hungry in the middle of the night 🤤🤤
Guilty as charged.
I’m a huge fan! Can you do a series or segment cooking various cuts of steak and how to properly season and prepare?
Love that idea
Per my experience and preference, cast iron gives the best results for 1. heat transfer for evenness and 2. flavor from a well seasoned pan. Even if I finish over a wood or charcoal grill, that cast iron sear is hard to beat. My process is same as yours for the aging process, however after the sear in the pan when using gas I turn 3 of the 4 burners off, and set the steak on the opposing side of the grill that I left the burner going on for a slower climb to temp (closed grill). I find it yeilds a more tender steak. And sometimes I also wear long sleeve shirts while cooking, for I too live dangerously ;)
Just for clarification by the flavor from your pan you mean the better crust right? The seasoning on a pan should be flavorless and smooth.
Those are medium rare? looks like a perfect medium to me
Could be the lighting, who knows.
18magicMARKer UV light from the sun can make reds look way less intense
temp is more of an indicator than color
The one on on the left looks overcooked
They’re over cooked with a medium center. The searing process was way too long, they need time to cook by indirect heat. But for the purpose of this video I get it.
FYI, the IR thermometer will always reflect a lower temp on a shiny pan than on a dark pan, which would explain the temperature discrepancy you see.
I see some other comments about the IR gun and emissivity - just went through a two week course on taking IR readings. Everyone is correct in the fact that you cannot accurately read the IR temperature of a shinny surface. Although some IR guns can adjust the emissivity value, it is basically impossible to get an accurate reading on a shiny surface.
The reason your pan temperature varied so greatly was due the those spots that had that burned material left behind from other cooking. Those brownish black spots have a different emissivity value and therefor read differently and more accurately. If you have any decent of a stainless pan - a 100 degree difference an inch away is basically impossible, even with the cheapest of pans.
So how do you get an accurate temperature with a non contact laser IR gun? In the field I work in you would apply tape or paint to the shinny surface that is dull and has a high emissivity value. Obviously you don't want paint or tape in your food in this case. I'd recommend brushing a very small spot on the side of the pan (out of contact from food) with something stick that turns black when burnt..like small bit of maple syrup or something. Take your IR reading on the blackend spot - a very small spot slightly larger than the laser dot will do.
@@jacobhall1488 He's a steak
You will get a better measurement 8f you add oil to the pan
That's wrong my IR gun at .35 emissivity very accurately reads my shiny stainless steel pan.
It's 2 in the morning, and I have to go eat a steak now.
Have an ice cream cone instead.
Ordered a lodge a few days ago and in the uk. I can't wait to start searing up some decent meat
Amazing !!!! just got my cast Iron Skillet and used it already I luv it...
Enjoy Cesar!
It’s Ramadan & I’m fasting so it was a bad idea for me watching this lol but I had to say these looked really delicious😋 good job! I’m getting a stainless steel because I don’t want to deal with the responsibilities of having a cast iron
Happy Ramadan. I remember visiting Dubai and going to the Iftar meals to break the fasts in the evening. Such an incredible cultural experience. Thanks for watching!!
Ramadan Mubarak! Get the cast iron. Nothing cooks better than cast iron and it's not as scary to cook/take care of as it seems!
Love your channel. You explain things clearly and do very interesting experiments, but also throw in some basics along the way(such as how to make clarified butter) I’ve gained more valuable information from a few of your videos than I have from hours of other videos or articles. Thank you
Thanks so much for the kind words. 🙏🙏👍
Cast iron actually heats LESS evenly than a properly clad stainless pan. However, it will retain heat far better than a properly clad stainless pan and it's that heat retention that makes cast iron so awesome. But if you want even heating with a quick response to changes in temperature, then properly clad stainless is the way to go.
For steak, first I'd suggest using a better stainless pan and then using the same style pan as the cast iron. Skillet shape can make a difference and certainly the quality of the cladding in the stainless pan will make an even bigger difference. Next, I'd be sure to pull the steaks at the same time.
I'm not sure you have an even comparison here.
would also add, if your going to test on a BBQ, then you would have to test twice and switch the position of each pan. I haven't used a BBQ yet that didn't have hot spots and cool spots.
Yes. His SS pan is almost as shitty as they get.
Might not be a scientifical comparison. The more you use the cast iron the better it gets. Not truee with stainless steel.
I'd love to see how carbon steel vs cast iron. Carbon steel has a higher heat conductivity than stainless but, much less thermal mass than cast iron. I would think it would give a good sear and more even cooked center.
My carbon steel pan just arrived yesterday so the video is in the process of being made!!
I was taken in by carbon steel as well. After several months of seasoning, testing and side by side comparisons, I am back to Lodge cast iron skillets. they are less tempermental, easier to keep seasoned, even heat, don't buckle the bottom, and don't stick. I have a deBuyer carbon steel. Good luck.
@@maxcontax so carbon steel sucks?
@@PhaseSkater No, just finicky.
Stainless steel is the least finicky of any pan type
Cast iron pans are usually "best" because even a cheap cast iron pan can cook a steak quite well due to how thick, heavy and evenly it distributes heat. With a stainless steel pan, a good one costs you hundreds of dollars while a cheap one costs like $8. Here in lies the discrepancy. If someone is buying a $20 cast iron vs a $20 stainless steel pan, the cast iron pan will perform better. If you get a high quality, thick, heavy stainless steel pan, it will perform just as well, but many people either don't know or don't want to spend that much money on a pan. You've also made a good point that because you cooked it in a grill with the lid closed, that helps distributes the heat more evenly than an open top as stove as well, thus making the steak you cooked in the stainless steel pan virtually identical to the one cooked in the cast iron pan.
Overall on this comparison, I'm going to overdose on steak. 🥩
If you sear the fat cap first. You render the fat better and can use that fat with butter during basting. More flavor.
Lately I’ve been “scoring” the fat cap almost like a pork belly so the heat gets in deeper to the fat and really emulsifies it.
the more you know. thanks!
Good point! Hadn’t thought about doing it that way. Txs
I always cook my steak on my cast iron but I'm picking up a 12" all clad stainless steel pan. It's gonna be my everyday pan and I will definitely make a couple of steak with it!
@Any One I don't see it on the Canadian side. Some nice debuyer carbon steel is on sale tho 😂
I did a bunch of research after this video about what stainless steel pan to get and the it seems like the 12" All Clad D3 is the way to go. Here's a link if you want to check it out - amzn.to/3bI51pC
I'm getting my all clad stainless steel 12 inch pan this week. so looking forward to it.
New subscriber ✌️ them steaks look amazing I’ve just bought a lodge cast iron pan so will try your recipe.
Welcome aboard!
Congrats on the "Lodge" you're gonna love it.... a little advice? never and I mean never use soap to wash it.... just brush it clean with very hot watch and light wipe of good oil after, reason being is cast iron is porous and more steaks you cook? the more char taste will develop... clean it with soap and you'll lose that char.... enjoy :)
Some have said not to use stainless since once you put the cold steak in, the temperature drops more quickly than cast iron that stays relatively unchanged, and this is what contributes to the differences.
Great video. Love my cast iron but I always forget and grab that hot handle
Stunning. What a pleasure to watch! I could almost taste it ☺
This guy made an entire meal with this thick ass cardigan on
I think quality pans of either type will give evenly good results generally speaking, however I still prefer cast iron for the amazing heat retention and how easy they are to clean and maintain. That and because they are a thick chunk of iron they are basically indestructible. I like to do my steaks exactly the way you did with the dry brine and butter baste. Only thing i do different is I use a reverse sear. That way I don't get the gradient of well done to mid rare steak. It's mid rare top to bottom
I use cast iron but dry brine on vacuum bag, then cooking sous vide on water bath at 54 degrees for about three hours then dry the meat and use cast iron without any additional fats, I just let the fat of the steak to do the job.
Served with extra virgin olive oil pepper and Maldon salt on top.
I will definitely try the variant with clarified butter as that gives that extra taste. Thanks for sharing your video with us.
I like the way cast iron seasons and becomes non stick but stainless is good to keep an eye on the colour of the fond.
100% agree. We have basically converted over to cooking on cast iron only for this exact reason.
the all clad d3 is an excellent choice. i have one and its pretty much replaced the Cast Iron
Awesome. Just watching a Thomas Keller video right now with the All Clad cookware. Maybe we’ll go to the French Laundry for an investigations 👌 Here's a link to the D3 All Clad Pan if you're interested - amzn.to/3bI51pC
I'd get the D5 if your cooking steak all the time
My All Clad stuff stays in the cabinets, now. They can't compare to my antique Griswold's and Wagner's. I find it funny how people are comparing low end cast iron to super high end stainless.
Awesome video. You are an excellent cook and your comparisons are complete and well explained. Love that I can come here to see that any questions or curiosities I may have are answered step by step. And definitely inspires me to cook more and more. Thank you for the work and effort you put into your videos. Your payoffs looks delicious. I can almost smell them here in North Carolina!!
Thanks Matthew! Appreciate the kind words and let us know if you have any ideas on more experiments you want to see.
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1. Stainless steel (18/10) has higher thermal conductivity than cast iron by at least 20% which explains why the steak turned medium in the stainless steel pan and medium rare in cast iron with the same amount of heat and cooking time. 2. Uneven heat distribution has nothing to do with 18/10, 18/8 or 316 stainless stain but the quality and maintenance of your pan as well as the heat from your grill. I hate to divulge but your ss pan is not in its finest condition and seemingly discolored. In actuality, cast iron has less even heat distribution than ss which adds one more reason to why fine dining restaurants don’t use them.
I've only just started cooking with cast iron including saucepans, my god they're amazing, far superior to anything else no matter how fancy they are. Cast iron walks it and wins every time.
Thanks for the video, next time you do one similar, please show what the pans looked like after the steaks were cooked. I would've been curious to see which one had more fond comparatively for pan sauce purposes.
Wow, for some reason, me too.
Both are great with the caveat that that particular saute pan is disc bottomed and not the best for a head to head. Especially cause it's a saute pan after all . As much as I love my cast irons, lately I prefer my All Clad steel in order to get that great fond for pan sauces.
Beautiful crust on both steaks! I'll have to try that 48h brine next time. I usually cook the fat cap first (because cow-fat is tastier than oil and can then replace said oil) but perhaps oil gives a better crust?
You don’t need oil at all for steak, at least with cast iron. The part he said about not touching them for 2 mins is key. They will stick until they’ve been left alone to sear. Some fat will render out of the cut side of the meat. I get a great sear on both sides then take the steak out and clean the pan. Then pan goes back on medium lo for a few mins with a little butter. It ends up cooked much more even without that grey ring. That’s what I do for medium steak which is the only way I make it. For prime rib crust, the 500° method never fails.
Wow! I never thought that it will have a difference between the cook on stainless and cast iron. Good to know. I will consider the cast iron as you recommended.
Great review on pans and state I want to see the cleanup process of pans
I've dont this years ago and do love the cast iron taste slight difference over stainless steel
One thing never mentioned is I love stainless steel can be cleaned afterwards with elbow grease scrubbing and seen its 100% cleaned
Cast iron always has black residue no matter how hard uve cleaned and I wonder if that's good to injest over years health wise 🤔
I always ask myself the same with the cast iron
@@TheLunatic748 When you get old you start considering this 😆
*Your eating fine traces of cast iron metal elements over time. So far I'm still healthy, I've used cast iron grills over many decades. I also love the sound of eggs over my hot non stick seasoned cast iron skillet ♨️🍳 🤷🏻♂️
Classical mistake - when measuring shiny surfaces (stainless steel, aluminum, etc), IR thermometers are unreliable. Use a thermocouple-based thermometer for better accuracy.
Either way, the cast iron steak look better.
Really boils down to personal preference, me thinks. Both look great! That dry brine is the secret, works like a charm 👍🏻
It's after midnight and my stomach is growling, I don't know why I torture myself watching this kind of thing!
All you needed to do was decrease the cooking time for stainless steak by a minute to get medium rare. I use both, a calphalon stainless steel pan and a an Walmart cast iron. Love them both.
We love our steaks on the cast iron. Great comparison!
That looks really good. Amazing crust! I think my mistake with this in the past has been using regular butter only. Low smoke point which led to bitterness from burning. Great video! Keep them coming!
Yep, the clarified butter should help a lot. Also make sure you’re only adding it into the pan after you’ve flipped the steak and you only have ~4 minutes left in the cook.
Oh, yeah and to get that crust, try the 24-48 hr dry brine. If you’re looking for a solid crust, that’s the biggest difference we’ve noticed out of all over the experiments we’ve done. GOOD LUCK KYLE!!!
@@BBQandBottles Thank you sir! Ill check back in after my next cook and let you know how everything turns out!
You can use regular butter if you wait with adding it till the end of the cooking process and slightly reducing the heat. Then keep pouring it over the meat till it turns light brown in color. That way you get a nice nut-like taste (we call it Nussbutter in German). The key is to get that browning of the butter without burning it. It then tastes even better than the clarified variant.
Both metals have their points !
Cast iron though, is very diverse !!
Just cook and have fun !
I think the reason they performed comperably is because these weren't on a burner, so the environment of a grill helped the steel maintain a high temp more than usual
Both pans are great, i use stainless steel for thin cuts and cast iron for thick cuts.
Meat tends to stick to stainless pans, so it really helps get a great crust on a thin piece without over cooking it, cast iron holds heat really well and it’s just quality of life for thick cuts, everything can be done in 1 pan weather it be indirect heat methods ect
it only sticks if you're not heating it correctly, i've never had a steak stick to my stainless steel. I'm using a Made-In skillet, and I will pretty much never go back to cast iron.
The differences in the temperature measurement you have done with the infrared thermometer among the stainless steel pan come from the reflection of the pan. These infrared thermos are not suitable for measuring metallic reflecting surfaces. In addition the emission coefficient of the black cast iron and the silver stainless steel pans are completely different.
It's got nothing to do with reflectivity (not even in the slightest). Emission coefficient? Now your are just making stuff up. These thermometers use the spectrum of the infrared light being emitted by the target under measurement which depends ONLY on the temperature of the target. Research things like "black-body radiation" and "Boltzmann distribution" and other science regarding the effects of a bodies temperature on the light it radiates. Don't get on a public forum to provide yet another loudmouth example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
I just love the cast iron pan for cooking my steak this is a great video . Thanks
Looks fantastic, but I suggest pulling them at 122 to 125 and let the carryover cooking during resting (about 10mn) get to high 120.
Everything else was done great. My personal favorite is baking a cast iron pan in an oven at 500 (put the pan in from cold!) for an hour and then take it to the stove top for cooking in a high smoke point oil such as Avocado oil
Concur. Too hot.
As far as I can tell, these look perfect and they were indeed rested for 10 minutes. 🤔
The high, straight sides of the stainless pan and the potential of heat and steam being trapped there is consistent with the smooth gradient of overcooked at the ends to medium at the center.
A dusting of flour would be a good way to test for hot spots.
Neither are medium rare. Medium (CI) and the other one is on the way to medium well. Looks very nice though. CI definitely for the win there.
There is an epidemic of youtubers who make videos on cooking steak and yet don't know medium rare from medium. It's amazingly simple, yet I keep seeing it over and over. There was not a spot of red in the center of either one. I think it's because they rely entirely on thermometers and timing, rather than simply looking at the steak after its cut.
Camera is off thats why. Noticed this the other day when I cooked. Looked rare to they eye but when I took a picture it looked medium
Ok, that’s it: I’m breaking quarantine and heading to the butcher shop for a couple inch-and-a-quarter NY strip steaks. 😁
@Mike Roberti - There are lots of butchers doing curbside pick-ups and even some doing delivery if you want to play it safe.
BBQ and Bottles thanks for the tip! I’ll check it out, having them delivered would be perfect
Warning: your normal stainless steel pan might not be able to handle the high bbq temperatures and might warp a bit so the bottom wouldn't be straight anymore
So take that into account
True, I've disposed mine. Then I went to buy a cast iron and it holds till now.
Yeah. I warped a 12 in All Clad on a glass top stove. Was used to gas range. Bye $300. And it was a damn flank steak 😭
@@ytreece $300?!
I bought my wife a couple of 12” Allclad D3 skillets for Christmas, and they were the 3-layer. $128/ea on Amazon.
The D5 (5-ply) is < $200, and the 5-ply copper core are only $264.
Awesome video. Thanks.
Will definitely try dry brining and leave uncovered in the cooler for 48 hours.
I enjoyed everything about the video except the sweater lol
Lmfao
1:47 The dry surface of the steaks which allows them to become super crispy is called a pellicle. A good pellicle is also a must for poultry. Same process uncovered in the fridge min. 6 hrs, 12 tops. Nothing better than a chicken leg and thigh with crispy skin. They should sell crispy chicken skins in a bag. Just like pork rinds, but chicken!
That’s a beautiful knife
Thanks - here's a link to the knife if you want to check it out. amzn.to/36dlUHG
Only down side to cast iron is it's a little more work to care for but if u care for them they last for ever and not nearly as hard to keep clean as some people think.
Both steaks look great but I'm cast all the way.
i would be more curious about the different results of taking those still-hot pans with all that burnt goodness stuck on them and deglazing with liquid to make some sort of pan sauce, whether the stainless had an advantage of not having the layer of seasoning that might come off from the thermal shock
Good question. We’ll add that to the list of videos.
That is the whole purpose of stainless steel. "Maison". Gravy finds. Makes the best gravy ever. Saucieres love them.
I sure would like to know what brand of stainless you used. I didn't see it in the comments. I use a USA made 5 ply Viking stainless that I find cooks very evenly. But it is an expensive pan. Also, you were using a cast iron fry pan and a stainless Saute Pan. They each cook differently.
lol, these comments can be brutal can't they. All in all, great video. No wonder you have 182K subs. Well done...
This is a wonderful video. But I don’t understand why American BBQ grills don’t actually have coal. I don’t get the point of the BBQ grill apart from just some outdoor cooking which you can do with any other hob. Isn’t the whole point of BBQ the coal and the charred smell from the coal and the process of burning the coal and for the meat to slowly cook??
I don’t disagree with you. That charcoal flavor is hard to beat. This video was really just showing a different preparation style. That charcoal flavor is what got me to go deep into BBQ in the first place.
I agree I prefer charcoal the taste of the meat is even better!
Looks like a Scandinavian sweater my dad use to wear. Great video.
Judging from the temps you took while on the grill, I do not think your SS pan has a copper or aluminum core, but is straight stainless steel. Having that core goes a *long* way to normalizing the temps across the pan. I would be curious to see the difference if you used a tri or higher ply pan. Personally I have played with both, and both seem to produce great steaks. I prefer SS if I am just doing a couple steaks as it is easier to use, and I drop the temp for the butter baste and the SS reacts faster. However, for more steaks the cast iron pan is great for retaining heat. And it just looks so cool.
This is definitely a question I had as well, since it looks like single ply, with maybe a heavy bottom. Multi-ply SS heat astoundingly evenly while cast iron is great at retaining heat, but doesn't heat evenly like people say. If someone wanted to test this more accurately, you'd probably want to heat both of them in an oven or with the lid closed until they're both at the target temp
Exactly right. Drop the extra dollars into a tri; you will forget the extra cost.
To be able to determine the temperature of the pans you should either use a contact thermometer or put in a steel plate og the same type in each of the pans (take out prior to use). The reason for this is that the infrared thermometer is using the IR radiation to "guess" the temperature (it's a rather complex task if you go into depth with how it works). Even if you don't care that much about precision there's a quite large difference in the thermal radiation from the black cast iron to the mirrorish stainless steel. Your cheap IR thermometer (or if you don't bother setting it) is set to an average IR radiation for most materials such as wood etc. But rather the black cast iron should be set to a higher thermal radiation and the stainless steel to a lower - for good laboratory grade thermometers many materials is listed in the manual and what setting should be chosen.
Try taking one of the Tefal thermospot non stick pans which are (almost) black on the inside and stainless on the bottom. Heat it up (with nothing in it) so the thermospot indicates it's ready for frying. Now hold you hands above it or if you dare pick it up and hold it a feet away from you face looking towards frying side - you can really feel the heat. Flip it and feel the heat from the underside - much less - but don't touch it as it's just as warm! Flip it back and forth and you'll discover it's not because it cools fast - it's because the radiation from the black side is much higher than from the stainless bottom!
That swirl pattern on the knife though, daaamn
Thanks - here's a link to the knife if you want to check it out. amzn.to/36dlUHG
when I watched this, I wondered if it was a education comparison's between two metals, or a video of, LOOK AT ALL MY STUFF!
Your dutch oven cast iron will work the best. You can sear them, put the garlic and rosemary on top, and put the cast iron lid on it and the butter will go to the top and fall down the little poke things. So after searing it on the stove, it will self baste with the lid closed in the oven.
You have to calibrate the IR thermometer for the emissivity of the surface.
I knew I forgot something 😉
@@BBQandBottles it's cool I think .98 is the default for a black body so should be spot on for cast iron. I don't even know how to change it on mine but man that IR thermometer has made skillet cooking much easier and more consistent for me.
There's no need for that. Even if the variance is +or- 3 degrees, that wouldn't make a difference.
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Yep, I swear by my cast iron pan. Steaks, roasted veggies, etc
2:24 some if not all temp guns don't do well when trying to take a reading of a shiny surface. You might want to test how accurate your gun is on a stainless pan.
Long sleeve sweater over propane fire with oil splashing is a recipe for "well done " human flesh.
I mean five seconds into the video I could tell that you wanted the cast-iron to win granted I knew it was going to win as well I liked and subscribed
As someone who cooks steak every week or so, definitely invest in a cast iron pan. Makes a HUGE difference
i LOL when you say "oh my god" after the bite. really great video here 👍
Thanks! 😃 What's your favorite pan / skillet to sear steaks in?
@@BBQandBottles any cast iron those are HEAVYWEIGHT !
It sounded happier on the cast iron. It could be me
They both appeared pretty happy to me, but, like you, I give the edge to the cast iron.
I’ll take whatever you don’t want.
they would of been in heaven on wood
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Seriously man this guy should be banned from making steaks.. this is the second video and I'm no expert but he is messing up those good cuts of meat... didn't even rend the side a bit... jeeez...
They ended up more like medium-well.
Stainless is much more versatile and less maintenance is required to use one.
To cook a good steak you just need to just get your pan hot enough with high smoke/flash point oil and cook using a thermometer, don't rely on poking it or waiting for an exact amount of time and ending up guessing the temperature. Once the steak has a nice colour, throw in some garlic, rosemary, butter and baste until your internal temperature is achieved.
Also make sure you pat the steaks dry and add enough salt to permeate the meat fibers to remove any water on the surface.
Finally, rest your steaks on a raised surface such as a cooling rack for baking, this way the bottom of the steaks dont get too soggy with built up condensation.
To clean just add shallots/ onions, a fair amount of black pepper, deglaze with brandy (flambé is optional) then swirl in some butter and cream to make an easy peppered pan sauce.
Now you gotta do cast iron vs carbon steel
Yep, we just ordered a carbon steel pan so it's on the way.
Another reason why there are differences between the pans could be your grill. Certain grills have burners that are of differing sizes and flow rates like the multi burner set up found on indoor kitchen stoves. Perhaps the difference is your burner layout if your grill has them your experiment may not have taken into account what burners are under what pan and the output of the burners. Good video
You'd need to use the same thickness SS pan as the cast iron pan for the most accurate comparison, such as Demeyere's Proline 7ply 5mm 4.4lb 9.4" skillet. My favorite pan to sear protein in.
@@MarkusRobins You're welcome Mark. You'll love it. It's craftsmanship is amazing. Single favorite pan ever, one everyone should get when they're first starting out & carry through life with. It has no rivets, & is completely flat on the bottom. They also use their patented 'Silvanox' treatment on it which prevents any possible leaching of nickel, something no other pan that I know of has.
Man ive never thought to use ghee for steak searing... will give this a go. Usually use sunflower oil.
Ghee for everything Bro'. I bathe in it.
I've used both and stainless steel wins hands down. Especially for the deglazing and beautiful sauces that can be made in it. No stressing about acidic reactions.
Just make sure you get an aluminium encapsulated base.
@Any One yeah I'll stick with the more expensive triply
@Any One I found two pans on Amazon. I think it's spelled s u t e c k. I paid $48 for a for two pans one was an 8-inch and one was a 10in. They are really good quality and should last me forever✌🌻
Great video, and appreciate all the detailed links you included, but the stainless steel pan is missing. Sure would like to know what you used to get such a terrific outcome in this test. Thanks!
I’m a cast iron pan all the way🔥💯
Same here. I can’t to start practicing New York style stuff.
Yes me too
Same here too
Yep me too. That’s how you get the restaurant flavor at home.
@@MarkusRobins I’m sorry you didn’t get it🤷🏽♂️, but 75 others understood my comment...Peace💯
Literally can feel the heat coming out when he's light up the grill
For all browning purposes and pan frying potatoes the my cast iron wins hands down over my very expensive stainless! Incredible pans been used for a century or more? No need to change a thing!