I want to highlight how important this is: 1:20 "as soon as she jumps into the sky we're gonna walk somewhere near the edge of the arena" It seems to me that *the FIRST middle indictator cannot spawn in the red mist* (out of bounds). So if you are near the edge... that might not work. But if you are damn near touching the edge, it always spawns inside the arena and is reasonable to dodge. Make sure there isn't enough space for that indictator to squeeze in between you and the edge. I honestly thought the waves were just bugged for days. In this particular case though they are consistent. *You need to be nearly touching the edge.* After keeping that in mind I'm able to consistently get the waves to never spawn outside the arena.
Waves spawning outside the arena have been the biggest reason for my p1 wipes. Glad that you cleared how that occurs cause i thought my edge baiting was correct. Going to try to always bait as close to the edge as possible from now on.
My issue isn't waves spawning outside the arena, it's standing at the centre of south and then having the wave coming from the west for some reason. When this happens you can't evade through because you'd evade outside the map and die. But the worst is P3 with the Slam waves, sometimes you're right on the edge but she does the Slam that covers the entire map instead of spawning half outside the circle, only 1 second from spawn to slam. Nearly impossible to react, cross the entire arena and find a spot safe from the waves. Having a hard time even learning P4 because getting there is so difficult with the lack of consistency in the fight, she also bugs if you push phases too fast.
I stand at the edge of the circle like you say, but no matter what I do or how I do it she always lands outside of the circle and her bullshit covers the entire area. There is literally no safe spot. What am I supposed to do?
Thats the buggy wave after 2 enforcer spawns and i am 100% sure you cant make it spawn in the place you want to, so just try to survive with cds or something. After this everything goes smoothly as explained.
Wow an ACTUAL breakdown of the fight..thank you so much bro this shit helped me tremendously. I just tried this fight about 40 times before coming across this video and beating her. Thank you!
Yea this is the case for me too, like the indications are hard to even notice. I dont mind you having to think so quick to dodge but it would be nice to kind of see exactly whats going on.
How is it that the waves in these videos are almost always perfectly positioned, but when I follow these steps they are all over the place and have completely random positioning?
If you don't make the first stagger you most likely gonna die no matter how good you will be avoiding waves the mechanic will continue until you kill mobs and boils, the waves become also randomizes and you want be able to dodge straight as she will spwawn on you with another wave, usually first try is the best, go to town and reset, also during second fight if she spawns ghosts you will die no matter what. just from touch. Its much harder on Season. The mechanics are broken even boils like to spawn outside arena. Need many tries and good preparation to go smooth.
I've progressed further with this boss and I honestly have to say, this is one of the most dogshit designed fights i've ever experienced. It is not fun having the boss constantly fly away every 5 seconds to do a wave pattern which one shots you because you have no time at all to do any dps to her. Why is that even a thing? She doesn't do that at the beginning, but once you get past the first add phase, she spends 3x more time doing the waves than actually being attackable.
Then your not doing nearly enough damage. The less damage you do the longer the fight takes and the more waves she will spawn. Get better gear and or rolls
@@purpleslurpe7179 Thats not the issue. Damage is fine, she literally shows up for 5 seconds and leaves to do waves, rinse and repeat, and she sometimes even spawns out the arena, so you can't hit her, so she leaves before you can even attack her.
@@purpleslurpe7179 lmao ur probably using a broken build that deleting her health bar in 90s or so... I was struggling 3 days (each day 2-3 hours) to pass her 1st stage with my Druid Pul bear build and at this point i gotta say the Waves are quite random sometimes.
idk i tryd to stand on the side but sometimes the waves just randomly not coming from top down instead its either instant as soon as the indicator comes or from left to right completly from a different angle or the most fun is when she spawns 2 waves on the complete platform or the hitbox from the spikes still hit you even if you are clearly behind them already. As a casual 1-2 hours player you will never kill this boss ever.
@@JeremieManent-p3g ye tell that to that casual 1-2h player that he has to just farm for perfect rolls and learn this aids fight in 3 months. delusional, period.
@BentoBoxMoosic @TheM3TADAD @smightercal She spawns 3 waves in a set right? The middle wave has 2. It seems to me that *the FIRST middle indictator cannot spawn in the red mist* (out of bounds). So if you are near the edge... that might not work. But if you are damn near touching the edge, it always spawns inside the arena and is reasonable to dodge. I honestly thought the same thing for days... really wish these videos would explain the important of it instead of just saying "go near the edge". "Near" doesn't work. You need to be in kissing distance of the edge. After keeping that in mind I'm able to consistently get the waves to never spawn outside the arena.
Standing exactly where you say to and the waves go diagonal sometimes all different directions makes no sense lol. Also as soon as I see the lines on the ground the waves instantly spawn. You have so much time in your clips to react once you see the lines it’s crazy.
No point to this unless you can one hit her. You can bait in the right position and the waves will just spawn on you and instant kill you before you can dodge.
Yep. Only reason to even play D4 is just play broke beyond fuck builds that shred bossss in seconds cause mechanics are retarded. Wow players been doing this shit for years of trying to find exploits to bosses cause mechanics are just as shit their
In the first phase only the waves are one shoting moves and in the second phase it gets even more nuts. She get multiple one shotting moves basically all of her attacks except a few hand attacks she does. Its insane unless you have some insane builds to beat her before she tries anything it's gonna be annoying not fun. For me at least
This fight is so poorly designed, that I have never seen anything so frustrating in my 2+ years I played Lost Ark, and that game is notorious for difficult raid mechanics. Who's warm beer idea was it to create all these 1-shot mechanics that flurry the screen, while making the character dodge other 1-shot mechanics. And everything is 1-shot. Blizzard has zero creativity. Anything "challenging" in their vocabulary equals to 1-shot death. And to add insult to injury, there are repair costs. I spent millions of golds on repairs and didn't make any progress. I can't see the telegraphs because everything is in shades of red, and I have a very hard time seeing anything red.
Thank you so much...I finally beat it by watching your video. Fortunately on try 15 she never spawned the blood missiles in phase 2 but I'll take the win
Im nearing 1000 attempts at this very moment as a Sorceress. She is not only the hardest boss I've ever faced in my personal gaming history but Lilith and I have also become great friends and we are having our first date at a McDonalds for coffee next weekend so I just thought I'd share that with you and wish me luck. She seems like a keeper!
Wave one patterns like the ones shown here NEVER spawn like that for me, theyve been spawning outside of the ring and I keep getting a desync and then hit. Sucks.
I can't even make it past the spikes in phase one. I must have some kind of brain issue, because I just can't decipher any patterns, any indication of safety, or any reason to how these come out. I don't think I'll ever clear this.
things to note - you need + max evades on boots and like +20% move speed. Also, the waves in the first phase can spawn right beside eachother/on top of eachother in a way thats impossible to dodge if you don't have a dash/teleport ability. If you are a barb with just normal evade you would have to be moving before the first wave indicator spawns in order to dodge this. The fight is broken in several ways that make it incredibly rng-based/annoying.
what a deeply unfun fight. they made her weak as fuck and then decided to just make her spam insta kill abilities. instant kill abiliites should only be used sparingly at key moments. they just need to look at lost ark boss battles and they could have learned so much from them but that game probably wasnt woke enough for the lesbian trans diverstiy hires at blizzard. nope just make her spam insta kill abilities non stop to make it extra frustrating
Tried her for hours in season 2 and could never get past phase 1. You have 0.5 seconds to react, process, and move before rock waves kill you, and they're practically random between 4 different patterns. Already grinded out lv21 glyphs running countless lv100 sigils and have basically BiS in every slot, but they obviously couldn't balance the fight so they just made everything 1shot.
Im doing enough damage to skip the first phase even 2 shot second phase but stll i need to get through the whole process of the breaking arena to finish her still i cant dodge those things flying aroung...
yeah i also try to nuke her after the first jump but she goes "Hey, what about fuck you?" and turns her HP bar gray and unleashes a barrage of shit. Im playing blood/minions necro, plus that guy with a shield so there are A LOT of stuff moving in the screen and most of the time i don't see the waves or see them too late... The blacksmith can't complay tho, he's actually millionare thanks to this biatch -_-
@@piterek2003 same, for me the spacing between the waves, keeps changing, so I can't develop a consistent dodge, at the same time, it's way too fast for me to react on the fly, I kinda need to pre-move in the right spot.
I ve tried it also around 150 times I guess. I still have enormous problems when getting Lilith around 60%. I tried to mimic your path of evasion from the bottom just going to the top. Sometimes it worked. But often times the patterns were so much different that I couldnt just walk straight up / in the direction of the lava. And sometimes, even when standing in the bottom corner, it would spawn outside of the arena. Or sometimes it would go so fast, I couldnt even dash fast enough when I saw it coming. I think theres more than 1 bug / inconsistency.
Its the direction you are facing, you want to go to the edge and face the middle. Edit hmm never mind parts of the video he wasnt facing the middle... unless you can face the opposite of where you want the initial one to spawn.
@@Magicduelshelper1 Yeah that seems to be true. That helped me now to get her to 30-40% in Phase 1. Now the bloodbubbles of the adds are the main problem
regarding the lighting of the arena, its hard to see the wave indicators when the lighting is red. Is there a trick to keep the arena light or is still just up to RNG?
maybe they changed it? I just tried it like 50 times and not once did the waves spawned coming at me like in the video it seems to be that way all the time
Great video but the waves i see on my screen are not televised like yours. Sometimes i even die before they appear. I really hate games w 1-shot mechanic bosses. There really is nothing fun about it.
The waves have been a nightmare p, my reaction time is either awful or it’s bugged. They seems to be instant. I just paid 10mil gold for a Barb to one shot her for me instead lol
Watching this again. Lilith's fireballs do less damage now and it is possible for a necro who has only 4 tempered items (one is weapon) to tank her waves, fireballs, even stomp. With an 80% temerity.
@@yungtato244 Rogue has no immunity lol, what are you talking about? Dark Shroud at level 5 gives you maybe 10% damage reduction, it's almost useless. And Barbarian has the highest defenses in the game with fortified and huge armor. Barbarian is the only class in the game that can actually tank the waves, but he won't be doing any damage with such a high defense build. Also, the original comment was probably for story mode Lilith who you can beat AFK. Rogue with high defenses can ignore her cross attacks and melee attacks, everything else is lethal or close to lethal. Even her adds can hit you for half HP
I got her halfway through first phase as pulverize Druid in my first 4 attempts, came to see what was killing me. I couldn't seem to avoid the waves. Man, seeing how much avoiding in the second phase, I know ill never get this in Harcode but maybe not ever softcore unless carried too. I'm uncoordinated old man lol
Yeah don’t worry we had two lightning wizards and a HOTA Barbarian and none of us could survive more than 3 of those waves! The fact I can run through 110 dungeons but one hit by Uber Lilith speaks everything what’s still wrong with this game!
@@chrispeters8555My friend had a barb that causes her so much damage she skips the 1st phase completely and i just survived while he killed her second phase. So I got that achievement. I got a Ball Lightning build to lvl100 this weekend (8th HC attempt since release) but now getting glyphs to 21 and gearing up. If i get really powerful i might attempt her, still scared to try it though. I never want to level to 100 in HC again
Worst fight ever. Waves are showing up all over the place... would love to have them be in the same spot like this video. How easy that would be! Then you do dodge them and she lands on me... like she has an ass of steel or something and i explode. Don't see that in this video... apparently I'm just unlucky.
The "suck-slam", sounds like my first 2 years vs the last year with the ex, similar qualities atleast. Phase 1 vs phase 3 is completely different hahah
It doesn't matter how much I watch this video - absolutely no clue how you can tell where the waves are coming from or predict "which" waves it will be lol. They all look identical in appearance and totally random in location so I just go to the bottom and dodge towards the center and hope for the best😅
Bro this doesnt work for p1 waves at all in season i am having them spawn facing the wrong way and way to close to miss out idk if its bugged or what but they need to sort this shit out
theres actually no fucking way for me to beat the first phase. after hours of trying i figured out how to dodge the waves but while dodging the waves non stop i cant kill the two adds. if i manage to kill them i ALWAYS die to the bubbles because i have no time whatsoever to destroy them while she spams wave after wave after wave. also those adds NEVER go to the edge so i can destroy the bubbles while baiting the waves.
I am lucky she never have to do the puddle. Since Phase 2 her health just drained and immediately just keeps tearing the arena and when in the middle that was the time she died.
How does he consitently make the waves spawn near him? I'm near the edge and these waves keeps spawning near the middle of the room. The first initial wave instantly hits me. the next subsequent waves are much easier to dodge.
I cant even see her waves coming, she jumps up and i look for where to move next thing i know I'm dead. Also i have had it overlap multiple times, so even if i move away something else that i cant see one shots me...
firs try lilith for my this season (first lvl 100 sorc) and dam its a really bad fight desing... 1: camera is so close to your face you cant see correctly the fight 2: the animation (visual ?) effect is really bad to read 3: a fight where boss is just a punching ball 90% of the time but can OS you with one mecanic is bad im so sad, i alwayz thinking "yeah uber lilith gona be a good and hard fight" but, meeeeh, its not funny (for me) to get OS wave (specialy with bugged hitbox ...) for me the best boss fight is Elias to unlock the T4, hit hard but dont OS you every time, lilith isnt funny. thank for the video im still trying, kill one time and never come back to her ^^
My waves go backwards and forwards since the beginning of the fight. These waves are a ridiculously unpredictable, sometimes they come without an indicator especially at the first mob spawn, they just come out of fucking nowhere and are instant. Wtf?
Great video. By the way I think Sorc got best defensive kits against her mechanics. But lacking damage makes it super hard for Sorc to win this fight, due to the soft enrage mechanic.
guess this tactics against waves are not working anymore..always going down, but she keeps spawnin them from left or right often from bott, barely from top as in the video...
Am I the only one having this circle pattern, so most of rhe circle is inside and I need like 3 dashes to dodge + most of the time the wavea spawn in such way that they form the tip also inside the circle and I lterally have no option to dodge or I must do needle accurate dodge with 1ms timing?
All the things you're saying make sense to me, it's just not happening for me during the fight. Everything happens in a split second. Wel, at least I do more damage now and got her to phase two.
I decided to go in and fight her at level 81. My dmg is nowhere near as high as yours where after like 2 mins I get her down about 5% but my character is pretty tanky. I was doing fine killing the blood boils but couldn't for the life of me figure out how to dodge those waves. I was trying to stand to the side then get in the middle then run out or just dodge through it. Sometimes it worked but not always. Now I know how to avoid that - thanks for the video!
I only manage took down lilith's health about 50% with the hota build, pretty much with min max gear, it's just skill issue at this point and Im playing with 150 ping because Im not from US. pretty sucks but at least I can defeat NM t80 with the hota build I haven't tried 90 but I will, but for now I think I'm gonna build rouge
did they change how she fights, i'm trying to do what you say and get to the edge but shes throwing them from all angles not where i'm going like in yours??? Help would be appreciated.. This woman is pissing me off using a standard build not using cheating 1 shots..
the add phase when she does the first wave i just die instalty before any waves have appeared, not sure what im doing wrong, im taking out the blood boils and the two big guys arent hitting me i just die before anything happens.
So I get this wave down the center when the ads spawn and I go to the side cuz the AOE indicator shows that it wont hit me, but it hits me? Like it literally hits the entire arena...
I don't see anywhere in the arena that doesn't get pounded by waves. Do you just have to pick a side to run to and dodge towards the opposite side and hope you dodge through the waves instead of getting mulched by them?
Is stormchasers aspect a MUST to get that poison build up? Im still a little unsure which one to give up for it... Accelerating or retaltion, which should I replace.? Running 1h with oh.
Wow, playing her as Necro is insanely hard. I have just died like 30 times and those wing swipes she does one shot me. No idea how I am going to beat this at lvl 82. Might need to work on my gear or wait until lvl 100.
You aren't going to beat it at level 82 no matter how good you are. It's impossible without sufficient gear and you simply cannot aquire that gear at that level. I can face tank all her attacks as a 98 sorc, with the exception of her waves and the floor lava which still 1 shot. and the waves spawn 100% randomly and at least for me, there is never ever a safe spot on the floor to go to, the entire arena is a 1 shot when she does the waves and floor lava in phase 2. I still can't beat her despite getting her phase 2 down to 40% health. And you want to beat her in the level 80s? Lol I want a video if you do manage this.
I want to highlight how important this is: 1:20 "as soon as she jumps into the sky we're gonna walk somewhere near the edge of the arena"
It seems to me that *the FIRST middle indictator cannot spawn in the red mist* (out of bounds).
So if you are near the edge... that might not work. But if you are damn near touching the edge, it always spawns inside the arena and is reasonable to dodge. Make sure there isn't enough space for that indictator to squeeze in between you and the edge.
I honestly thought the waves were just bugged for days. In this particular case though they are consistent. *You need to be nearly touching the edge.*
After keeping that in mind I'm able to consistently get the waves to never spawn outside the arena.
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Waves spawning outside the arena have been the biggest reason for my p1 wipes. Glad that you cleared how that occurs cause i thought my edge baiting was correct. Going to try to always bait as close to the edge as possible from now on.
My issue isn't waves spawning outside the arena, it's standing at the centre of south and then having the wave coming from the west for some reason. When this happens you can't evade through because you'd evade outside the map and die. But the worst is P3 with the Slam waves, sometimes you're right on the edge but she does the Slam that covers the entire map instead of spawning half outside the circle, only 1 second from spawn to slam. Nearly impossible to react, cross the entire arena and find a spot safe from the waves.
Having a hard time even learning P4 because getting there is so difficult with the lack of consistency in the fight, she also bugs if you push phases too fast.
I stand at the edge of the circle like you say, but no matter what I do or how I do it she always lands outside of the circle and her bullshit covers the entire area. There is literally no safe spot. What am I supposed to do?
Thats the buggy wave after 2 enforcer spawns and i am 100% sure you cant make it spawn in the place you want to, so just try to survive with cds or something. After this everything goes smoothly as explained.
Wow an ACTUAL breakdown of the fight..thank you so much bro this shit helped me tremendously. I just tried this fight about 40 times before coming across this video and beating her. Thank you!
Those waves are IMPOSSIBLE to dodge. For me they are just random, no warning, no telegraph..I see dark lines and BOOM dead. It's insane.
Yea this is the case for me too, like the indications are hard to even notice. I dont mind you having to think so quick to dodge but it would be nice to kind of see exactly whats going on.
yeah i think im getting massive desync cause i sometimes die before the waves have even appeared.
Turn up the brightness. Trust me
when a dungeon crawler tries to be a dark souls game … - Fail
@@timothyfitzwilliams4428Totally a fail making a fight thats better designed than any dark souls boss ever. Sorry you can't execute 😂
How is it that the waves in these videos are almost always perfectly positioned, but when I follow these steps they are all over the place and have completely random positioning?
I've tried everything, and spent 60 mil on repairs and can't even get past the first waves
Yeah, I'm on probably 40 attempts, and every time I die on the waves after she spawns the 2 minions. What the fuck.
Boss is so poorly designed, its not fun.
Ripsauce
Its meant to be hard bro if you want easy find a different game
@@reecethomas666 Something badly designed doesn't equal it being hard genius. It's just cheap and lazy instead of hard.
100% convinced this boss is unkillable. holy fartbox.
If you don't make the first stagger you most likely gonna die no matter how good you will be avoiding waves the mechanic will continue until you kill mobs and boils, the waves become also randomizes and you want be able to dodge straight as she will spwawn on you with another wave, usually first try is the best, go to town and reset, also during second fight if she spawns ghosts you will die no matter what. just from touch. Its much harder on Season. The mechanics are broken even boils like to spawn outside arena. Need many tries and good preparation to go smooth.
Great explanation of the fight. Thanks for this.
I've progressed further with this boss and I honestly have to say, this is one of the most dogshit designed fights i've ever experienced. It is not fun having the boss constantly fly away every 5 seconds to do a wave pattern which one shots you because you have no time at all to do any dps to her. Why is that even a thing? She doesn't do that at the beginning, but once you get past the first add phase, she spends 3x more time doing the waves than actually being attackable.
Then your not doing nearly enough damage. The less damage you do the longer the fight takes and the more waves she will spawn. Get better gear and or rolls
@@purpleslurpe7179 Thats not the issue. Damage is fine, she literally shows up for 5 seconds and leaves to do waves, rinse and repeat, and she sometimes even spawns out the arena, so you can't hit her, so she leaves before you can even attack her.
@@purpleslurpe7179 lmao ur probably using a broken build that deleting her health bar in 90s or so... I was struggling 3 days (each day 2-3 hours) to pass her 1st stage with my Druid Pul bear build and at this point i gotta say the Waves are quite random sometimes.
idk i tryd to stand on the side but sometimes the waves just randomly not coming from top down instead its either instant as soon as the indicator comes or from left to right completly from a different angle or the most fun is when she spawns 2 waves on the complete platform or the hitbox from the spikes still hit you even if you are clearly behind them already. As a casual 1-2 hours player you will never kill this boss ever.
There is too much zoom in fight
You can kill lilith with full opti stuff and great calculate of game mechanic period..
@@JeremieManent-p3g ye tell that to that casual 1-2h player that he has to just farm for perfect rolls and learn this aids fight in 3 months. delusional, period.
The waves in p1 are always spawning outside the arena for me even when I go to the bottom of the circle. Makes it impossible to avoid
Same.
yeppp...i dont understand why.
@BentoBoxMoosic @TheM3TADAD @smightercal
She spawns 3 waves in a set right? The middle wave has 2.
It seems to me that *the FIRST middle indictator cannot spawn in the red mist* (out of bounds).
So if you are near the edge... that might not work. But if you are damn near touching the edge, it always spawns inside the arena and is reasonable to dodge.
I honestly thought the same thing for days... really wish these videos would explain the important of it instead of just saying "go near the edge". "Near" doesn't work. You need to be in kissing distance of the edge. After keeping that in mind I'm able to consistently get the waves to never spawn outside the arena.
@@LeiRaion Thanks for the tip, ill give it a shot and see how it goes
@@LeiRaiondo I need to be right on the line? Or just a hair's breadth off it?
Standing exactly where you say to and the waves go diagonal sometimes all different directions makes no sense lol. Also as soon as I see the lines on the ground the waves instantly spawn. You have so much time in your clips to react once you see the lines it’s crazy.
2:50 here is a bug that can kill you because of overlap, unless your name is Ben
That “glitch” happens EVERY time I fight her so far in the like 6 or 8 times I fought her
Okay, i will never kill Lilith.... this is to much shit to look out for.
No point to this unless you can one hit her. You can bait in the right position and the waves will just spawn on you and instant kill you before you can dodge.
Finally beat it with my shred Druid using fists of fate. Best thing to do is just out dps the boss.
I feel like that's the ONLY way to beat her! 🥲
This fight is fuckin ridiculous... just getting served L's left and right! 🤣🤣🤣
Yep. Only reason to even play D4 is just play broke beyond fuck builds that shred bossss in seconds cause mechanics are retarded. Wow players been doing this shit for years of trying to find exploits to bosses cause mechanics are just as shit their
In the first phase only the waves are one shoting moves and in the second phase it gets even more nuts. She get multiple one shotting moves basically all of her attacks except a few hand attacks she does. Its insane unless you have some insane builds to beat her before she tries anything it's gonna be annoying not fun. For me at least
This fight is so poorly designed, that I have never seen anything so frustrating in my 2+ years I played Lost Ark, and that game is notorious for difficult raid mechanics. Who's warm beer idea was it to create all these 1-shot mechanics that flurry the screen, while making the character dodge other 1-shot mechanics. And everything is 1-shot. Blizzard has zero creativity. Anything "challenging" in their vocabulary equals to 1-shot death.
And to add insult to injury, there are repair costs. I spent millions of golds on repairs and didn't make any progress. I can't see the telegraphs because everything is in shades of red, and I have a very hard time seeing anything red.
Thank you so much...I finally beat it by watching your video. Fortunately on try 15 she never spawned the blood missiles in phase 2 but I'll take the win
Im still getting nuked by the waves
Im nearing 1000 attempts at this very moment as a Sorceress. She is not only the hardest boss I've ever faced in my personal gaming history but Lilith and I have also become great friends and we are having our first date at a McDonalds for coffee next weekend so I just thought I'd share that with you and wish me luck. She seems like a keeper!
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Haha you made me laugh 😂😅
Wave one patterns like the ones shown here NEVER spawn like that for me, theyve been spawning outside of the ring and I keep getting a desync and then hit. Sucks.
Good vid. Much better then most of the E.Lilith videos
Your a beast Ben keep killing it 🥶
I can't even make it past the spikes in phase one. I must have some kind of brain issue, because I just can't decipher any patterns, any indication of safety, or any reason to how these come out. I don't think I'll ever clear this.
things to note - you need + max evades on boots and like +20% move speed. Also, the waves in the first phase can spawn right beside eachother/on top of eachother in a way thats impossible to dodge if you don't have a dash/teleport ability. If you are a barb with just normal evade you would have to be moving before the first wave indicator spawns in order to dodge this. The fight is broken in several ways that make it incredibly rng-based/annoying.
They fixed the waves. Positioning yourself at the edge doesn’t work anymore.
Thank you! I would have never made it past phase 1 without your help. Phase 2 was easy by comparison for me.
what a deeply unfun fight. they made her weak as fuck and then decided to just make her spam insta kill abilities. instant kill abiliites should only be used sparingly at key moments. they just need to look at lost ark boss battles and they could have learned so much from them but that game probably wasnt woke enough for the lesbian trans diverstiy hires at blizzard. nope just make her spam insta kill abilities non stop to make it extra frustrating
Tried her for hours in season 2 and could never get past phase 1. You have 0.5 seconds to react, process, and move before rock waves kill you, and they're practically random between 4 different patterns.
Already grinded out lv21 glyphs running countless lv100 sigils and have basically BiS in every slot, but they obviously couldn't balance the fight so they just made everything 1shot.
Yeah, did the same. It's bullshit. Gave up.
I can’t do this I’m just getting completly bodied
Im doing enough damage to skip the first phase even 2 shot second phase but stll i need to get through the whole process of the breaking arena to finish her still i cant dodge those things flying aroung...
yeah i also try to nuke her after the first jump but she goes "Hey, what about fuck you?" and turns her HP bar gray and unleashes a barrage of shit. Im playing blood/minions necro, plus that guy with a shield so there are A LOT of stuff moving in the screen and most of the time i don't see the waves or see them too late... The blacksmith can't complay tho, he's actually millionare thanks to this biatch -_-
the speed and hitboxes of all those waves (also randomness) is bit too much for me. I'm giving up after 2 days of hitting my head against the wall.
Hitboxes I completely agree with. But the waves are manageable and not random
@@purpleslurpe7179 I stay at the bottom and they spawn randomly. I face outside, inside, no difference - never perfect waves like in the video
@@piterek2003 same, for me the spacing between the waves, keeps changing, so I can't develop a consistent dodge, at the same time, it's way too fast for me to react on the fly, I kinda need to pre-move in the right spot.
I ve tried it also around 150 times I guess. I still have enormous problems when getting Lilith around 60%. I tried to mimic your path of evasion from the bottom just going to the top. Sometimes it worked. But often times the patterns were so much different that I couldnt just walk straight up / in the direction of the lava. And sometimes, even when standing in the bottom corner, it would spawn outside of the arena. Or sometimes it would go so fast, I couldnt even dash fast enough when I saw it coming. I think theres more than 1 bug / inconsistency.
Yeah I'm seeing the same thing. The lines spawn all over the place and you have about .1 sec not die lol
Its the direction you are facing, you want to go to the edge and face the middle. Edit hmm never mind parts of the video he wasnt facing the middle... unless you can face the opposite of where you want the initial one to spawn.
I'm like 99% certain its the direction you are facing, it seems to snapshot it if you don't do it correctly and throws the lines all over the place.
@@Magicduelshelper1 Yeah that seems to be true. That helped me now to get her to 30-40% in Phase 1. Now the bloodbubbles of the adds are the main problem
@@Gamyr yeah I just insta die when the adds spawn and learn nothing lol. Trying to go to the bottom but the adds one shot me as im dashing up.
regarding the lighting of the arena, its hard to see the wave indicators when the lighting is red. Is there a trick to keep the arena light or is still just up to RNG?
maybe they changed it? I just tried it like 50 times and not once did the waves spawned coming at me like in the video it seems to be that way all the time
Great video but the waves i see on my screen are not televised like yours. Sometimes i even die before they appear.
I really hate games w 1-shot mechanic bosses. There really is nothing fun about it.
it seems additional 2 dodge shoes is reuqired. sometimes it can't be done in 1 dodge
Took me 4 days to kill this horrible boss way to much rng and one shot mechanics for it to be enjoyable
The waves have been a nightmare p, my reaction time is either awful or it’s bugged. They seems to be instant. I just paid 10mil gold for a Barb to one shot her for me instead lol
🤣🤣🤣 I feel that...
Watching this again. Lilith's fireballs do less damage now and it is possible for a necro who has only 4 tempered items (one is weapon) to tank her waves, fireballs, even stomp. With an 80% temerity.
I've seen a rogue player just face tank her spike waves during her 1st form, and it barely did any damage... And here I'm getting one shot by those.
Check your chest and pants. They should have mostly damage reduction as all 4 affixes, obviously dodges and HP helps also
Rogue has shadows barb is only class without a form of immunity
@@yungtato244 Rogue has no immunity lol, what are you talking about? Dark Shroud at level 5 gives you maybe 10% damage reduction, it's almost useless. And Barbarian has the highest defenses in the game with fortified and huge armor. Barbarian is the only class in the game that can actually tank the waves, but he won't be doing any damage with such a high defense build.
Also, the original comment was probably for story mode Lilith who you can beat AFK.
Rogue with high defenses can ignore her cross attacks and melee attacks, everything else is lethal or close to lethal. Even her adds can hit you for half HP
@@Gennosuke198310% damage reduction is huge...
you got huge balls to do this on hc. people are scared to go there if they cant nuke her and skip most the mechanics these days. respect.
Someone needs to take the keyboard away from whoever thought a boss fight of one shots was a good idea.
All about lucky RNG. Dont care what anyone else says. Bad optimized fight is a bad optimized fight.
best guide I've found on youtube !
My build didn’t stand a chance
I got her halfway through first phase as pulverize Druid in my first 4 attempts, came to see what was killing me. I couldn't seem to avoid the waves. Man, seeing how much avoiding in the second phase, I know ill never get this in Harcode but maybe not ever softcore unless carried too. I'm uncoordinated old man lol
Yeah don’t worry we had two lightning wizards and a HOTA Barbarian and none of us could survive more than 3 of those waves! The fact I can run through 110 dungeons but one hit by Uber Lilith speaks everything what’s still wrong with this game!
@@chrispeters8555My friend had a barb that causes her so much damage she skips the 1st phase completely and i just survived while he killed her second phase. So I got that achievement. I got a Ball Lightning build to lvl100 this weekend (8th HC attempt since release) but now getting glyphs to 21 and gearing up. If i get really powerful i might attempt her, still scared to try it though. I never want to level to 100 in HC again
thanks man! Wow, what a fight. I love knowing I'll never kill her. GJ
Worst fight ever. Waves are showing up all over the place... would love to have them be in the same spot like this video. How easy that would be! Then you do dodge them and she lands on me... like she has an ass of steel or something and i explode. Don't see that in this video... apparently I'm just unlucky.
The "suck-slam", sounds like my first 2 years vs the last year with the ex, similar qualities atleast. Phase 1 vs phase 3 is completely different hahah
thanks for the video!
visibility of the mechanics and color scheme, 50shades of red in this fight is just horrible...
It doesn't matter how much I watch this video - absolutely no clue how you can tell where the waves are coming from or predict "which" waves it will be lol. They all look identical in appearance and totally random in location so I just go to the bottom and dodge towards the center and hope for the best😅
I just want the darn trophy, can someone add me and help me kill this crazy boss!!??
Bro this doesnt work for p1 waves at all in season i am having them spawn facing the wrong way and way to close to miss out idk if its bugged or what but they need to sort this shit out
I'm trying this fight and when i get to 2/3 and she spawns the first 2 adds her wave pattern is insanely random for me. Anyone else or am i just crazy
Yep first intermission waves can be buggy. Sometimes the side waves spawn in the wrong locations.
Omg this is insanely helpful, could have saved me tons of hours
By far the best explanation on how to avoid her shadow spikes
You're dodging through the waves .. I die when I try to
i still cant defeat lilith but it is the first time i manage to spawn her two fat ass minions i can't even begin to think about the 2nd phase
Never born but never killed - Lilith - Queen of Sitra Ahra
theres actually no fucking way for me to beat the first phase. after hours of trying i figured out how to dodge the waves but while dodging the waves non stop i cant kill the two adds. if i manage to kill them i ALWAYS die to the bubbles because i have no time whatsoever to destroy them while she spams wave after wave after wave. also those adds NEVER go to the edge so i can destroy the bubbles while baiting the waves.
million scroll of escapes and death potions. noted.
I am lucky she never have to do the puddle. Since Phase 2 her health just drained and immediately just keeps tearing the arena and when in the middle that was the time she died.
I’m a HC barb- ain’t no way I’m trying this lmao. Kudos though
Im doing NM 70 dungeons no problem and i still fant beat her. What a joke
I 81 NM dungeon.
How does he consitently make the waves spawn near him? I'm near the edge and these waves keeps spawning near the middle of the room. The first initial wave instantly hits me. the next subsequent waves are much easier to dodge.
Only the rouge ability? Thanks bud. Great video
I cant even see her waves coming, she jumps up and i look for where to move next thing i know I'm dead. Also i have had it overlap multiple times, so even if i move away something else that i cant see one shots me...
I cannot seem to get past the ads section of the first phase. My waves are way inconsistent
firs try lilith for my this season (first lvl 100 sorc) and dam its a really bad fight desing...
1: camera is so close to your face you cant see correctly the fight
2: the animation (visual ?) effect is really bad to read
3: a fight where boss is just a punching ball 90% of the time but can OS you with one mecanic is bad
im so sad, i alwayz thinking "yeah uber lilith gona be a good and hard fight" but, meeeeh, its not funny (for me) to get OS wave (specialy with bugged hitbox ...)
for me the best boss fight is Elias to unlock the T4, hit hard but dont OS you every time, lilith isnt funny.
thank for the video im still trying, kill one time and never come back to her ^^
My waves go backwards and forwards since the beginning of the fight.
These waves are a ridiculously unpredictable, sometimes they come without an indicator especially at the first mob spawn, they just come out of fucking nowhere and are instant. Wtf?
Great video. By the way I think Sorc got best defensive kits against her mechanics. But lacking damage makes it super hard for Sorc to win this fight, due to the soft enrage mechanic.
ye sorc is the worst class against her
Did you see the Sorc nuke her in 2 min?
U Guys kidding? Sirc can nuke her in 2 seconds nothing is faster
@@CoL_Drake you need a very specific build for that, not guys fault but game designers
thx for the great guide
guess this tactics against waves are not working anymore..always going down, but she keeps spawnin them from left or right often from bott, barely from top as in the video...
Thank you!!
Am I the only one having this circle pattern, so most of rhe circle is inside and I need like 3 dashes to dodge + most of the time the wavea spawn in such way that they form the tip also inside the circle and I lterally have no option to dodge or I must do needle accurate dodge with 1ms timing?
i ahve 4 dodges on my boots still cant dodge those blood waves there is not a safe spot like u had in video tried 100+times.
This video is solid AF.
This is the worst endgame boss fight in the game history
All the things you're saying make sense to me, it's just not happening for me during the fight. Everything happens in a split second. Wel, at least I do more damage now and got her to phase two.
I decided to go in and fight her at level 81. My dmg is nowhere near as high as yours where after like 2 mins I get her down about 5% but my character is pretty tanky. I was doing fine killing the blood boils but couldn't for the life of me figure out how to dodge those waves. I was trying to stand to the side then get in the middle then run out or just dodge through it. Sometimes it worked but not always. Now I know how to avoid that - thanks for the video!
You're much better than I am. I can't do this fight.
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I only manage took down lilith's health about 50% with the hota build, pretty much with min max gear, it's just skill issue at this point and Im playing with 150 ping because Im not from US. pretty sucks but at least I can defeat NM t80 with the hota build I haven't tried 90 but I will, but for now I think I'm gonna build rouge
Really wishing I had multiple evades. Tibaults will only gives move speed :S
did they change how she fights, i'm trying to do what you say and get to the edge but shes throwing them from all angles not where i'm going like in yours??? Help would be appreciated.. This woman is pissing me off using a standard build not using cheating 1 shots..
they did, her waves are random now...
there are moments during this vid that make me think you are trying to beat world record at fast talking:)
"first take" riiiight lmao
I dont mind if the fight is hard, but when the fight takes soooo long, i consider it a bad design
Do better damage 😴
the add phase when she does the first wave i just die instalty before any waves have appeared, not sure what im doing wrong, im taking out the blood boils and the two big guys arent hitting me i just die before anything happens.
this is all great except it relies on being able to see the ground...rip my build i guess
I know she has a poison attack in phase 2 (mephisto lookalike). Any other elemental attacks or is it all physical?
idk how to dodge the waves, i go beind her but she slams again ... and there is no gap
So you need a build that kills her under 20 seconds....om got it
So I get this wave down the center when the ads spawn and I go to the side cuz the AOE indicator shows that it wont hit me, but it hits me? Like it literally hits the entire arena...
I don't see anywhere in the arena that doesn't get pounded by waves. Do you just have to pick a side to run to and dodge towards the opposite side and hope you dodge through the waves instead of getting mulched by them?
Is stormchasers aspect a MUST to get that poison build up? Im still a little unsure which one to give up for it... Accelerating or retaltion, which should I replace.? Running 1h with oh.
Wow, playing her as Necro is insanely hard. I have just died like 30 times and those wing swipes she does one shot me. No idea how I am going to beat this at lvl 82. Might need to work on my gear or wait until lvl 100.
You aren't going to beat it at level 82 no matter how good you are. It's impossible without sufficient gear and you simply cannot aquire that gear at that level. I can face tank all her attacks as a 98 sorc, with the exception of her waves and the floor lava which still 1 shot. and the waves spawn 100% randomly and at least for me, there is never ever a safe spot on the floor to go to, the entire arena is a 1 shot when she does the waves and floor lava in phase 2. I still can't beat her despite getting her phase 2 down to 40% health. And you want to beat her in the level 80s? Lol I want a video if you do manage this.