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Can't decide whether I love or hate having to pause and rewind the video every 20 seconds to read the memes, but I'm still here so at least we can say it's compelling!
I live in the city where Moog originated and where they are still made and it's super sad what's going on. Most of the employees were laid off without warning and the 2 assembly lines that weren't, are just finishing up the last of the inventory and then they're laid off as well. I hope they still maintain the quality that they're known for.
I´m really sad that the other Moog(the aerospace/defense corporation founded by Bob Moog's uncle with 14.000 employees and billions of dollars flowing through the company every year) wasn't the one to acquire Moog Music and keep it's legacy alive. Then again it's doubtful that there's anyone still over there with a connection to the family.
The harmony of Behringian and Moogish tones here were simply delightful. M32 is simply lovely, a bit weird functionally but certainly worthy of the InMusic name 👀
Calling out Lars Ulrich on the "bass-destroying behavior" line was genius. But I am so sad about Moog, what a great company they have been recently, and now this disaster.
Moog: Launches reissue of 50 year old design for outrageous price Boutique Synth Makers: Sell clones of 50 year old design for equally outrageous prices Simp TH-camrs: Ecstatic wide-mouthed gape! Behringer: Makes affordable copy of 50 year old design Butthurt TH-camrs: HoW *dArE* yOu!?!
Like yeah behringer is questionable in terms of ethics (they own a fucking city in china lol) but a lot of people dont have the option to buy $2000 synths from smelly hipster manbun-touting kombucha-swilling manufacturers and their equally hipster manbun-touting kombucha swelling TH-camr goons@@davidkulmaczewski4911
This is definitely a weird request, but I watch Bad Gear with my daughter as I indoctrina- er, get her interested in synthesis. Could you perhaps make a compilation video of all of your dawless jams so she can watch your hands work and I can point out what parts you're manipulating? Good video as always, we loved it!
i mean the DFAM, M-32 and the Subharmonicon are pretty solid devices (i feel like) and i am pretty confident they will be "craved" for many years to come.
I kind of hate my DFAM. Each time I think of seriously getting rid of it I do end up finding some use for it but it’s firmly on the line of regret purchases.
@@AveragePicker. Definitely the weakest of the three, imho. But I’m more about melody & harmony, and prefer 707/909 drums with *good* sequencers/MIDI control, so I would think that, wouldn’t I … 😏
I actually love how simple the envelope is. I’m always always controlling the mother 32 with a sequencer or arpeggiator so the decay knob is perfectly tuned for that shit
@@Jason75913 Does weird sound design great as well, and I have pulled some decent leads from it to. Most of its specialty comes from when you play with the patch cables. It makes for a lot of fun as an acid bass. Personally I love the simplicity of the main area of the synth since it kind of makes you get creative with the patches which can produce crazy results.
@@Po1lux Comparable to Phase Plant, Massive X, or the Novation synths? I strongly doubt it, but you are free to prove otherwise if you really want to, of course.
Another great video ... the M32 was, indeed, my first step into Eurocrack. I had to sell it, and the DFAM, in the end to make room for another series of tiny but expensive boxes which let me subtly adjust the voltage levels of yet more tiny boxes ... stay careful, boss - once you go Eurorack, you never go back!
You will never get another moog, because when the lawyers fail, the customers don't step up and boycott. So long as people are cheap hypocrites, you can only expect companies of a similar nature.
One of your best! Rofl The video editing was intense and must take longer than the planning, scripting and filming all put together! I’ve had the mooog trio since June and I keep swinging from “must sell them and buy a more powerful, flexible, challenging modular rig” to “no, they’re moooogs I luv em” and back
What was even more strange is that Behringer essentially copied the poor UI and functionality of the Mother 32's sequencer for the Crave (yes, I have one of those, too...).
I'm heading to the old factory and hoping to get some pictures while they still have the moog logo all over it. Gotta say I'm kinda heart broken, but I'm so glad I got time with the 32 and the mini's in college. Thank you for this episode, man!
I have a subharmonicon and it's grown on me, but it took me nearly 2 years to get here. The reason why I bought it is because it's a unique form of synthesis. I've learned to use the thing more like a west coast synth than a Moog. Trying to use the dissonance but also the potential rich harmonies has been rewarding. It's been an interesting synth to get to know. The mother 32 didn't seem worth it, so I bought her boss, the matriarch. What a beautiful beast. I wish I had a wave folder in my eurorack. It really does become a addictive monster. 3.5mm gateway drugs.
One of my first and favourite synths. Gorgeous tone for bass, drones, and leads. The sequencer is pretty annoying to work with IMO, and I also do think that Berhinger clones of Moog gear sound pretty sick tbh -- but the 32 is a forever synth for me regardless, one of the few pieces of hardware I own that I don't see myself ever selling.
Loved that meme showing the Spirit Halloween store sign on the (soon-to-be-abandoned?) Moog/InMusic factory building. Being a retired commercial real estate broker, that made me laugh - hard. As for the instrument itself, I bought my pair of Mother 32s used for $400 each not too long after they were first introduced. It was a time when a $550 Moog synth seemed like a dream come true (Uli had yet to enter the synth market then). Today, at $699, the Mother 32 and its Mother Family siblings are horribly overpriced.
Thx for the incredible fan moment in the 7th district of the austrian capital vienna. I really appreciate you putting in the Blade Runner meme as it would have been dearly missed. Actually I couldn't follow any of your musings as I was only waiting for the unavoidable blade runner meme to appear...
This channel isn't just fun and menes. You provide useful information too. I have a Crave and never thought to patch the VCF into the external audio in. I paused the video and gave it a try. I ended up with a fat bass sound that went nicely with a 4 OP FM bass. I am definitely going to have to play around with this patch some more. I was getting some nice chirps that sounded like actual birds.
$600! Singling out Uli is warranted for the poor social media oversight/management/marketing, but the product IS on-point for HALF the price. Boutique elitist CHADS don't get my sympathy, but MOOG is restructuring in a logical way finally, which is usually a good thing for any brand that has suffered from poor management. They have been riding the edge for decades....1977, 1987, 2005 and now. The employees must have had some clue but they will be fine, they have marketable skillsets and some of them will continue with the new Moog. Try working in aviation and talk to me about volatility. That said, the Mother 32 sounds pretty nice, but seems like too few features for the price.
So using Florian's logic of the opening classic Psycho meme, I guess if this is now the original deceased Moog Mother then the Behringer Crave must be Norman Bates?
O_O Never expected to see this legendary machine on here. Edit: "Narrow range of tones"... nah, that's only if you don't use the patch cables extensively. I've managed to get some crazy sounds out of mine, including something vaguely resembling a 303 and even percussion-ish sounds.
A single oscillator mono synth in 2015, with a '71 synthesis architecture, eurorack leanings, a silly name, and easily cloned by everybody for way less money...what could possibly go wrong?
As real bad gear i mean really bad gear you should add Behringer Pro VS to your videos its so far from the original as alowed. LOVE YOUR VIDEOS TAO VON SWEDEN.
It’s often seen as a gateway to modular, but when I got mine I already had a lot of modular, yet it still added more than I expected. I had been hoping that Moog would release just a ladder filter in module form and didn’t think I needed a full monosynth, but I got one anyway and it quickly became the centrepiece of my live rig. At the time I didn’t have a programmable sequencer (just classic knobby analogue ones), so the M32 sequencer gave me the ability to recall melodic sequences. At first all the shift-key combos are a pain, but once you get the hang of them it’s very playable, with the ability to easily transpose, turn steps on & off & change sequence length allowing for a lot of improvisational fun. In the end I actually played solos on that tiny keyboard! The single VCO is limiting on its own, but I loved running other VCOs through it: wavetables in particular sound great with the resonance. And there’s something about the PWM that just sounds richer than most of the stand-alone VCOs I own.
N Music absolutely destroyed every brand they acquired. Monopolies, conglomerates and venture capitalists are never a good thing for the consumer whether it be pricing, quality or innovation. Separate and competition is the life blood of innovation and fair consumer pricing.
Ha, bought a mint Subsequent CV for this reason as well. Don't care about the Moog sound at all (more of a Sequential guy myself), but it doesn't hurt to have a well-received "Made in Asheville" Moog in one's collection, even if it's just for resale in a decade or so. :)
@@AudioPilz Heh, synth owners aren't the people I'd go to for financial advice. Except, maybe, if I need to formulate an excuse for a new synth's 2% of features that my other gear doesn't cover. Your audience might actually be very good at blowing up the importance of some obscure setting or connection, like some weird, mostly unusable source-destination option in a mod matrix. :)
I like your theme of moog actually being a different company now, because if the mother 32 had been released by, say korg or roland, it probably would have gotten a ton more hate than it did
Really wanted to buy a Moog One. But delivery dates are “5-7 weeks” in Europe. And I really don’t want to plop down 11 grand to see “made in China” on the bottom.
Once again Florian teases sounds out of a piece of gear that I could never hope to achieve while declaring it's bad gear despite being able to make it sound like it was passed down to Earth directly from the hands of the synth Gods themselves. I love this youtube channel so much because every video makes my brain melt as I try to work out why I suddenly want to spend money on something almost everyone agrees is bad.
Couldn`t stop reading comments the last 20min in hope to find some PRO arguments for the mum - cause I own one 😅 - like it anyways... Great video despite making me feel a little punched in my belly ;)
Very accurate take. I pulled my Mother-32 out the other day and honestly it made me appreciate my digital synths with robust amounts of mod slots more.
Again, you're dead on. The workflow on this thing is torturous and the sound really only comes alive with modular gear. Calling it a "gateway drug" into modular is... far too true. Please send help. I'm trapped in a nest of wires
Indeed Rest in Peace Moog!!! Grab the American made ones fellaz while you can in stores and watch the rest of the company BURN 🔥 🔥 🔥 . VIKING FUNERAL of Moog 🪓🪓🪓🫡🫡🫡
I've been thinking about grabbing one as an expander for my Grandmother. I think the Grandmother is a perfect base to expand on like this. Nice tunes and video!
There are several great videos online of Lisa Bella Donna doing that set up, I recommend them. And the music is great. Her “mothership” video is especially cool.
I have both. But I bought the GM as an expansion for my Mother32. I consider myself thoroughly over-Mooged now and rarely touch the M32. The Subharmonicon makes an excellent partner though
Yep! Using a Behringer to make it more Moog-like just to rub their US Capitalist noses in it. Intentional cynisism or did that even escape your knifesharp wit? 🙂Subject oriented: It's still in the filter.
MURDER - “we need companies.. that spend more one R&d than they do on their lawyers”. musically and memically one of the best episodes you made. ALSO if you run out of bad gear, can’t you just make a different series on synths?? I need these videos to get through life.
And again I say... WHY IS SEQUENTIAL "ENSHRINED" in a way such that its products are basically NEVER shown on this channel? One time? The Tempest? Pfft. That's a non-factor instrument made in such low numbers it's basically irrelevant. I hereby NOMINATE THE PROPHET REV II for BAD GEAR 2023!!
I bought M32 and Pittsburgh SV1 at the same time.. I still use the Pittsburgh on a weekly basis, the M32 lives in its box… If I need the Moog sound I use the Werkstatt..
someone left this synth at my house one time, and i hated playing it. and i thought it sounded awful. not fun at all... ms-20 on the other hand, awesome and i luvs it. so much fun. edit: actualy any synth is more fun and better sounding. i'd much rather play any of the volcas or roland boutiques or even new mini behringers i see unreleased. even free vsts like surge xt !!!
The thing about Moog... it was never THAT good to begin with. I mean it was good quality and sound wise but nothing about it was out of this world. And especcialy in 2K20s. Except the prices of course. To me Moog is more of a culture than sound itself... Moog is a new Emo (in a good and a bad way). Thanks bro, and nice music pieces! Let's hope the album will come out soon!
I've always been on the verge of picking one of these up, but I really just have too many expensive hobbies and I have to just be happy with what I have for now. 😅😆😩😭
I had 2 of these, they were just horrible to use without having to use glasses or a cheat sheet. This is also the reason Moog went over to Inmusic, they were just not profitable because of their asking prices. Sound wise, creamy filter but with only 1 oscillator, it's expensive to have 2 of them let alone 3. If the format was larger, then I would probably have been more inclined to keep, the Typhon is far better value and a ton more fun.
Glad I'm not the only one who rushed to buy the last stock of Moog after they fired their manufacturing staff, capitalism is hell. Hmu if you wanna feature the Subharmonicon next week :)
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Nice slap on MOOG...
Ah!! Yes... The CRAVE clone!
Lol
😂
😂
Yes... but did you know, you can get three Uli Craves for the price of one Mother? How much is she in MannoKorgs?
bro 😂
Can't decide whether I love or hate having to pause and rewind the video every 20 seconds to read the memes, but I'm still here so at least we can say it's compelling!
Every 20 sec is pretty good!!! Most people have to pause more often
1/2x speed on the replay does it for me
@@MonsieurMosca Good advice for any video you want to search through.
I kept on trying to pause but had to rewind, so many memes gone by so fast …
Honestly, each mention of InMusic is like a dagger to the heart😢
It's dystopian, I know...
"Good afternoon and welcome to InMusic. What company shall we eat NEXT week? Wait and see!"
Hang in there, buddy 😔
Yup. Gone from one of the last great synth companies with a history of treating workers right to Behringer with a higher price tag.
I live in the city where Moog originated and where they are still made and it's super sad what's going on. Most of the employees were laid off without warning and the 2 assembly lines that weren't, are just finishing up the last of the inventory and then they're laid off as well. I hope they still maintain the quality that they're known for.
It's truly sad!!!
I´m really sad that the other Moog(the aerospace/defense corporation founded by Bob Moog's uncle with 14.000 employees and billions of dollars flowing through the company every year) wasn't the one to acquire Moog Music and keep it's legacy alive.
Then again it's doubtful that there's anyone still over there with a connection to the family.
Fantastic video as always! I am forver sad about the news with moog, but their legacy never dies!
Thank you!!! It was - after all - the third time the brand was sold to another company
@@AudioPilz Yes, but this time Saint Robert isn't here to save it again. May he rest in peace.
Buy 10, sell them 2043 for 10x what you paid for. With the current inflation figures, you'll only lose about 120% of your money 😂
I'm not a financial advisor;)
The harmony of Behringian and Moogish tones here were simply delightful. M32 is simply lovely, a bit weird functionally but certainly worthy of the InMusic name 👀
Thank you!!!
I burst out laughing when I saw the Moog and Boog pairing, then immediately had to be quiet because the jam was so good.
Great video, but not enough time spent detailing the true awfulness of the sequencer. That sequencer is Cthulhu levels of insanity inducing.
Agreed, it's quite challenging!
😅”Inmusic” Mother 32. Troll level high.
;)
Pairing it with the Behr stuff felt icky. Grotesque. Really bad taste.
I’m a fan, but this was a painful episode.
Thank you for the feedback
Calling out Lars Ulrich on the "bass-destroying behavior" line was genius. But I am so sad about Moog, what a great company they have been recently, and now this disaster.
Also, the meme at 3:19 is totally true. I listen to 70s Tangerine Dream or Klaus Schultze when drifting off to sleep.
I know, it's heartbreaking
Yes!!! I was just about to comment on how that ever so subtle Lars callout was definitely one of the most brilliant moments in Bad Gear history 🤣🤣👏👏
Lars needs his ego destroyed.
Wait, he already did that by drumming on St. Anger.
Moog: single oscillator mono for $700 beacuse "high quality"
Behringer: identical sounding clone for $200
It's tempting...
And you can sometimes find second-hand units for as low as 100-140 $. So the whole Harem for the price of a single Mother..
Moog: Launches reissue of 50 year old design for outrageous price
Boutique Synth Makers: Sell clones of 50 year old design for equally outrageous prices
Simp TH-camrs: Ecstatic wide-mouthed gape!
Behringer: Makes affordable copy of 50 year old design
Butthurt TH-camrs: HoW *dArE* yOu!?!
Like yeah behringer is questionable in terms of ethics (they own a fucking city in china lol) but a lot of people dont have the option to buy $2000 synths from smelly hipster manbun-touting kombucha-swilling manufacturers and their equally hipster manbun-touting kombucha swelling TH-camr goons@@davidkulmaczewski4911
This is definitely a weird request, but I watch Bad Gear with my daughter as I indoctrina- er, get her interested in synthesis. Could you perhaps make a compilation video of all of your dawless jams so she can watch your hands work and I can point out what parts you're manipulating? Good video as always, we loved it!
Great idea, thanks!!!
Love that for you and your daughter, that’s sick!
@@ahans6548 Thanks! I justify it to her father by saying it's educational :P
i mean the DFAM, M-32 and the Subharmonicon are pretty solid devices (i feel like) and i am pretty confident they will be "craved" for many years to come.
No pun intended;)
I kind of hate my DFAM. Each time I think of seriously getting rid of it I do end up finding some use for it but it’s firmly on the line of regret purchases.
@@AveragePicker. Definitely the weakest of the three, imho. But I’m more about melody & harmony, and prefer 707/909 drums with *good* sequencers/MIDI control, so I would think that, wouldn’t I … 😏
what an 'edgy' statement
straight to jail
I actually love how simple the envelope is. I’m always always controlling the mother 32 with a sequencer or arpeggiator so the decay knob is perfectly tuned for that shit
Nice technique!
As an arp? Yeah, that's what it is best at, or simple basses. That's all it can do, lol
@@Jason75913 Does weird sound design great as well, and I have pulled some decent leads from it to. Most of its specialty comes from when you play with the patch cables. It makes for a lot of fun as an acid bass. Personally I love the simplicity of the main area of the synth since it kind of makes you get creative with the patches which can produce crazy results.
@@Po1lux Comparable to Phase Plant, Massive X, or the Novation synths?
I strongly doubt it, but you are free to prove otherwise if you really want to, of course.
Um, it's clearly pronounced "Inmusic"? Like the peanut butter? *Obviously*.
😂😂😂
The only thing better than a Bad Gear review is a Bad Gear Review shaming Lars Ulrich. This time for what led to "And justice for Jason", I guess?
❤️❤️❤️Lars❤️❤️❤️
2:21 DEVIL'S HAIRCUT
IN MY MIND
DEVIL'S HAIRCUT
IN MY MIND
Another great video ... the M32 was, indeed, my first step into Eurocrack. I had to sell it, and the DFAM, in the end to make room for another series of tiny but expensive boxes which let me subtly adjust the voltage levels of yet more tiny boxes ... stay careful, boss - once you go Eurorack, you never go back!
Thanks!!! Not even once;)
sold 15k in eurorack and never looked back.
That's a lot of passive mults
You will never get another moog, because when the lawyers fail, the customers don't step up and boycott. So long as people are cheap hypocrites, you can only expect companies of a similar nature.
There's some truth to that
One of your best! Rofl
The video editing was intense and must take longer than the planning, scripting and filming all put together!
I’ve had the mooog trio since June and I keep swinging from “must sell them and buy a more powerful, flexible, challenging modular rig” to “no, they’re moooogs I luv em” and back
Thanks!!! Defo keep them!
I’m waiting until the trio goes on sale, just got the 2600M for 25% off!
Definitely keep them for now, they'll be worth triple the amount in ten years considering the downwards spiral Moog is heading to now.
I’ve watched ten instructional demonstrations on how to use this things sequencer. I still don’t know how to use it.
Not knowing how to use it is essential for using it
@@AudioPilz a Zen master could not have said it better.
I have to get the manual every time I use it.
@@moz912 Yes, me too, every damn time!
What was even more strange is that Behringer essentially copied the poor UI and functionality of the Mother 32's sequencer for the Crave (yes, I have one of those, too...).
"InMusic Mother-32". Boy, that hurt my gut.
I know, it's dystopian
What movie clips are used in the BYORMTASOGB jam?
I'm heading to the old factory and hoping to get some pictures while they still have the moog logo all over it. Gotta say I'm kinda heart broken, but I'm so glad I got time with the 32 and the mini's in college. Thank you for this episode, man!
Thank you so much!!!
@Cheeses_K_Ricedif only you knew the real story. Steinberg entirely bought that on themselves, and they paid the price for it.
@Cheeses_K_Riced eMagic was acquired by Apple in July 2002. OVER TWENTY YEARS AGO, that's a long time in terms of technology.
Well, we don't have to worry about Moog making terrible equipment anymore...
*sobs*
😔😔😔
I have a subharmonicon and it's grown on me, but it took me nearly 2 years to get here. The reason why I bought it is because it's a unique form of synthesis. I've learned to use the thing more like a west coast synth than a Moog. Trying to use the dissonance but also the potential rich harmonies has been rewarding. It's been an interesting synth to get to know. The mother 32 didn't seem worth it, so I bought her boss, the matriarch. What a beautiful beast. I wish I had a wave folder in my eurorack. It really does become a addictive monster. 3.5mm gateway drugs.
That one is super interesting!!!
I crave one. I'll show myself out.
lol
One of my first and favourite synths. Gorgeous tone for bass, drones, and leads. The sequencer is pretty annoying to work with IMO, and I also do think that Berhinger clones of Moog gear sound pretty sick tbh -- but the 32 is a forever synth for me regardless, one of the few pieces of hardware I own that I don't see myself ever selling.
Nice!!!
Loved that meme showing the Spirit Halloween store sign on the (soon-to-be-abandoned?) Moog/InMusic factory building. Being a retired commercial real estate broker, that made me laugh - hard. As for the instrument itself, I bought my pair of Mother 32s used for $400 each not too long after they were first introduced. It was a time when a $550 Moog synth seemed like a dream come true (Uli had yet to enter the synth market then). Today, at $699, the Mother 32 and its Mother Family siblings are horribly overpriced.
😀😀😀 Yeah, these have become quite costly...
"Oh you want patch cables? that'll be $800. then."
Love hate relationship with this before it dropped. Ended up costing me near 20k in modular. WHY IS IT OUT OF TUNE WITH ALL NON MOOG GEAR?!?!
Yeah, I found it challenging to tune it too
Thx for the incredible fan moment in the 7th district of the austrian capital vienna. I really appreciate you putting in the Blade Runner meme as it would have been dearly missed. Actually I couldn't follow any of your musings as I was only waiting for the unavoidable blade runner meme to appear...
It was a pleasure!!!
This channel isn't just fun and menes. You provide useful information too. I have a Crave and never thought to patch the VCF into the external audio in. I paused the video and gave it a try. I ended up with a fat bass sound that went nicely with a 4 OP FM bass. I am definitely going to have to play around with this patch some more. I was getting some nice chirps that sounded like actual birds.
lol, why would you want birds?
Thank you so much!!! Always a pleasure!!!
im gonna be honest, i hardly use mine as intended, its mostly patched into my DFAM or Moogerfoogers
Nice setup!
As usual, a spot on review, and a lovely demonstration of M32s capabilities.
Thank you!!!
$600! Singling out Uli is warranted for the poor social media oversight/management/marketing, but the product IS on-point for HALF the price. Boutique elitist CHADS don't get my sympathy, but MOOG is restructuring in a logical way finally, which is usually a good thing for any brand that has suffered from poor management. They have been riding the edge for decades....1977, 1987, 2005 and now. The employees must have had some clue but they will be fine, they have marketable skillsets and some of them will continue with the new Moog. Try working in aviation and talk to me about volatility. That said, the Mother 32 sounds pretty nice, but seems like too few features for the price.
Interesting economic analysis!
So using Florian's logic of the opening classic Psycho meme, I guess if this is now the original deceased Moog Mother then the Behringer Crave must be Norman Bates?
This is canon now
If only Norman had left his mother...
O_O Never expected to see this legendary machine on here.
Edit: "Narrow range of tones"... nah, that's only if you don't use the patch cables extensively. I've managed to get some crazy sounds out of mine, including something vaguely resembling a 303 and even percussion-ish sounds.
👍👍👍
This is gonna hurt some...
;)
Ok just getting into creatong DAWless electronic/techno music. What SHOULD I buy?
Maybe start with a simple groovebox like a Novation Circuit?
damn, that mother+boog combo track was killer.
😀😀😀
"The one on [YOUR MOTHER] --" lol
;)
Looks like a Wish version of the Crave. 🙃
Lol, shots fired;)
The best site for anguish.
A single oscillator mono synth in 2015, with a '71 synthesis architecture, eurorack leanings, a silly name, and easily cloned by everybody for way less money...what could possibly go wrong?
Worked out for Moog. Oh, wait...
58 seconds in and I'm already dying of laughter. This is going to be a good, meme-packed episode!
Thank you so much!!!
I already lost it at 0:15 when the title was "inMusic Mother-32"… 🥲
Hope you're still alive, mate. It got funnier with every minute 'till the end. One of his best episodes indeed!
As real bad gear i mean really bad gear you should add Behringer Pro VS to your videos its so far from the original as alowed. LOVE YOUR VIDEOS
TAO VON SWEDEN.
Yeah, these are classic direct-to-Bad Gear(please don't sue, Uli...;)
As much as i hate saying this, at 700 I'll have to stick with berhinger. Same quality sound for about half that
These are really costly
In the 80's we would have LOVED a co. like Behringer.
Yet another great synth on this mocking channel.
It’s often seen as a gateway to modular, but when I got mine I already had a lot of modular, yet it still added more than I expected. I had been hoping that Moog would release just a ladder filter in module form and didn’t think I needed a full monosynth, but I got one anyway and it quickly became the centrepiece of my live rig. At the time I didn’t have a programmable sequencer (just classic knobby analogue ones), so the M32 sequencer gave me the ability to recall melodic sequences. At first all the shift-key combos are a pain, but once you get the hang of them it’s very playable, with the ability to easily transpose, turn steps on & off & change sequence length allowing for a lot of improvisational fun. In the end I actually played solos on that tiny keyboard! The single VCO is limiting on its own, but I loved running other VCOs through it: wavetables in particular sound great with the resonance. And there’s something about the PWM that just sounds richer than most of the stand-alone VCOs I own.
Agreed!!!
Too soon.
😉
;)
Calling the Moog Mother-32 bad? That's a bold strategy, let's see if it plays off for him.
Hear me out;)
@@AudioPilz 😁
N Music absolutely destroyed every brand they acquired. Monopolies, conglomerates and venture capitalists are never a good thing for the consumer whether it be pricing, quality or innovation. Separate and competition is the life blood of innovation and fair consumer pricing.
After having to use a Hohner HS1 sampler over the last two weeks: you should feature the Hohner HS1! Or ist Casio Fz1 variant.
A clunky tank, it is...
Great suggestion, thank you!!!
you mean Akai mother 32?
TimberMother
Ha, bought a mint Subsequent CV for this reason as well. Don't care about the Moog sound at all (more of a Sequential guy myself), but it doesn't hurt to have a well-received "Made in Asheville" Moog in one's collection, even if it's just for resale in a decade or so. :)
Let's stay away from financial advice here;)
@@AudioPilz Heh, synth owners aren't the people I'd go to for financial advice. Except, maybe, if I need to formulate an excuse for a new synth's 2% of features that my other gear doesn't cover. Your audience might actually be very good at blowing up the importance of some obscure setting or connection, like some weird, mostly unusable source-destination option in a mod matrix. :)
A reasonably expensive synth with half the capabilities of its cheaper brethren. Not for me, thanks. I don't like the Moog logo THAT much.
You mean the inMusic logo;)
I like your theme of moog actually being a different company now, because if the mother 32 had been released by, say korg or roland, it probably would have gotten a ton more hate than it did
There might be some truth to that!
Can you imagine a Roland version where you might actually enjoy menu diving if you thought it might get you a triangle?
Really wanted to buy a Moog One. But delivery dates are “5-7 weeks” in Europe. And I really don’t want to plop down 11 grand to see “made in China” on the bottom.
Agreed!
Once again Florian teases sounds out of a piece of gear that I could never hope to achieve while declaring it's bad gear despite being able to make it sound like it was passed down to Earth directly from the hands of the synth Gods themselves. I love this youtube channel so much because every video makes my brain melt as I try to work out why I suddenly want to spend money on something almost everyone agrees is bad.
Thank you so much!!!
Yes! For me this channel isn't "Bad Gear", it's "Buy Gear". So many underrated synths on this channel.
Yeah, the "Bad" part is more about internet opinions than the actual hardware.
Couldn`t stop reading comments the last 20min in hope to find some PRO arguments for the mum - cause I own one 😅 - like it anyways... Great video despite making me feel a little punched in my belly ;)
Nothing personal;) Thank you!!!
Be honest, how many Crave owners clicked on this and just saw it as a review of the Crave?
...but, but, but... The UI is all messed up!!!
@@AudioPilz Oh of course, for copyright reasons they are obviously completely different instruments!
Can you do the grandmother?
Very accurate take. I pulled my Mother-32 out the other day and honestly it made me appreciate my digital synths with robust amounts of mod slots more.
Thank you!!!
"Sigmund Freud inspired nomenclature", lol
Next Behringer Crave? :D :D :D
Hell yeah.
;)
@@i_never_asked_for_an_alias My three Craves cost approximately the same as one Mother-32 :D :D :D
Again, you're dead on. The workflow on this thing is torturous and the sound really only comes alive with modular gear. Calling it a "gateway drug" into modular is... far too true.
Please send help. I'm trapped in a nest of wires
I feel you!!! Modular - not even once!!!
Indeed Rest in Peace Moog!!! Grab the American made ones fellaz while you can in stores and watch the rest of the company BURN 🔥 🔥 🔥 . VIKING FUNERAL of Moog 🪓🪓🪓🫡🫡🫡
😔❤️😔❤️😔❤️
I've been thinking about grabbing one as an expander for my Grandmother. I think the Grandmother is a perfect base to expand on like this. Nice tunes and video!
Thanks!!! Great idea!!!
There are several great videos online of Lisa Bella Donna doing that set up, I recommend them. And the music is great. Her “mothership” video is especially cool.
I have both. But I bought the GM as an expansion for my Mother32. I consider myself thoroughly over-Mooged now and rarely touch the M32. The Subharmonicon makes an excellent partner though
Fortunate enough to have both, and I agree.
Wasn't the GM a M32 with a keyboard bolted on?
They got the envelopes right on the Sub 37. Why do they keep screwing them up on this and the Matriarch ? Oh well. Who cares.
It's too late anyway...😔
The meme is strong with this one
😀
Yep! Using a Behringer to make it more Moog-like just to rub their US Capitalist noses in it. Intentional cynisism or did that even escape your knifesharp wit? 🙂Subject oriented: It's still in the filter.
Just the only other piece of Eurorack compatible gear I had here;)
Another episode of my favorite synth show!
Thank you so much!!!
Not much has changed in the last 20 years of synths IMHO whenit comes to sounds...Just more features but the soundscapes seem to remain the same.
There are some fresh kids in town;)
MURDER - “we need companies.. that spend more one R&d than they do on their lawyers”. musically and memically one of the best episodes you made.
ALSO if you run out of bad gear, can’t you just make a different series on synths?? I need these videos to get through life.
Decent Gear?
Thanks!!! The chance to ever run out of gear to review is comparably slim;)
Noooo, not the Mother-32. Let me believe its as "fat" and crisp as a Moog should be!
So crisp...;)
And again I say... WHY IS SEQUENTIAL "ENSHRINED" in a way such that its products are basically NEVER shown on this channel? One time? The Tempest? Pfft. That's a non-factor instrument made in such low numbers it's basically irrelevant. I hereby NOMINATE THE PROPHET REV II for BAD GEAR 2023!!
then lend him yours already
Great suggestion, thanks!!! (Does the Pioneer AS-1 count?;)
I sold mother for Roland S1 which is sounds more variety
Love the S1!!!
I have the Studio and Matriarch... wonderfully lost. And yes, mostly made in America. Sad freaking day when investment firms kill off an iconic brand.
True that
Hate to say it the crave has a better arrangement especially the jacks on top and the cut off in the right spot
The layout is quite practical
I bought M32 and Pittsburgh SV1 at the same time..
I still use the Pittsburgh on a weekly basis, the M32 lives in its box…
If I need the Moog sound I use the Werkstatt..
Yeah, not my favorite take on the Moog sound either...
My mother has a scratchy cutoff 🫨🫨🫨do i have to take apart the whole thing 🫨🫨🫨
Verdict: A boy's best friend is not his mother. 😃
Lol
someone left this synth at my house one time, and i hated playing it. and i thought it sounded awful. not fun at all...
ms-20 on the other hand, awesome and i luvs it. so much fun.
edit: actualy any synth is more fun and better sounding. i'd much rather play any of the volcas or roland boutiques or even new mini behringers i see unreleased. even free vsts like surge xt !!!
Love the MS-20!!!
Unfortunatly there will be no Father-64.
😔😔😔
"real simulated woodgrain sides"
this world is so bleak.
We love Akai Dan tho
Which one do you prefer between the minitaur and the mother 32 ?
I’ve yet to give the ‚taur a try
YEEAAH! Bad Gear and Moog!!! I got popcorn and beer (and rum). Add some Freud stuff and Bingo!
Please do Dreadbox Dysmetria. I'll send you the complete works of Baudelaire, Lovecraft and George Carlin (not).
Cheers!!!
The thing about Moog... it was never THAT good to begin with. I mean it was good quality and sound wise but nothing about it was out of this world. And especcialy in 2K20s. Except the prices of course. To me Moog is more of a culture than sound itself... Moog is a new Emo (in a good and a bad way).
Thanks bro, and nice music pieces! Let's hope the album will come out soon!
Thank you so much!!!
LMFAO inmusic mother 32
;)
2:23 is that Devil’s Haircut? I love that song?
Good ear;)
malekko manther for next bad gear episode?
Great suggestion, thanks!
Nobody talks bad about my Muthver!
I'd never;)
If your running out .. (don't honestly believe for a second) how about the Stylophone ?!
Great idea, thanks!!!
How about that Donner puck music making thingie?
You should take a look at the slim patty for an episode!
Great suggestion, thanks!!!
I've always been on the verge of picking one of these up, but I really just have too many expensive hobbies and I have to just be happy with what I have for now. 😅😆😩😭
I had 2 of these, they were just horrible to use without having to use glasses or a cheat sheet.
This is also the reason Moog went over to Inmusic, they were just not profitable because of their asking prices.
Sound wise, creamy filter but with only 1 oscillator, it's expensive to have 2 of them let alone 3.
If the format was larger, then I would probably have been more inclined to keep, the Typhon is far better value and a ton more fun.
Typhon is awesome!
@@AudioPilz the UI is weird but super easy to work out, and that's how you make a synth with an out of the box thinking.
Bass destroying Lars Ulrich, indeed. What a fuckwhit!
Best. Drummer. Ever.
"Lars isn't even the best drummer in Metallica."@@AudioPilz
Get the Holy Trinity(Mother32,DFAM,Subharmonicon ) while they are on clearance sales. They work well as one too.
This is not financial advice;)
Glad I'm not the only one who rushed to buy the last stock of Moog after they fired their manufacturing staff, capitalism is hell. Hmu if you wanna feature the Subharmonicon next week :)
There's actually one in my neighborhood;)