RF power versus antenna gain (the results may shock you)

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ค. 2018
  • Today I talk about RF power versus antenna gain for FPV systems on RC planes and drones -- the results may shock you. Another whiteboard video with some "in the field" footage to prove the point.
    Here is an earlier video which explains how antenna gain works:
    • FPV antenna gain and r...
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  • @mrmcflunday2164
    @mrmcflunday2164 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Almost to the limits of visual line of sight.. lol love it.

  • @brendonclarke4647
    @brendonclarke4647 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    The use of balloons in this video is genius.

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wish he used balloons filled with hydrogen, though.

    • @rivrunner1
      @rivrunner1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree, using balloons to explain the inverse square law is a stroke of genius!

    • @mscir
      @mscir 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rivrunner1 I agree, it was an excellent demonstration. I did wonder what the balloon resistance to being inflated did as it was increasingly pressurized, I imagine it went up, but I don't think the results would have been much different if it had been linear.

  • @agentbertram4769
    @agentbertram4769 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Get in there Bruce! Your audience loves you and speaking as an electrical engineer, your videos are the best and most informative video's on youtube.

    • @AdrianoCasemiro
      @AdrianoCasemiro 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm not an engineer, but I couldn't agree with you more. Invaluable knowledge for free. How no to love it?

  • @blackmennewstyle
    @blackmennewstyle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Bruce, can i adopt you to be my grandfather

  • @raytron1138
    @raytron1138 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bruce, you're the professor I wish I had in college. What a great job. Thank you.

  • @snickers.mcflurry
    @snickers.mcflurry 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This vid is exactly what I needed to clearly understand how this works. Thanks for the detailed but not overly complex tutorial!

  • @tabdougherty8549
    @tabdougherty8549 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Bruce! Once again. This hobby would not be the same without you and all you do for the community

  • @shiretook
    @shiretook 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Videos like this are what have kept me watching your channel. Learning physics and electronics in such a practical application way is inspiring. Thank you.

  • @SimRacer101
    @SimRacer101 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Bruce, this may be the best side by side comparison I have seen. So many things we do make just little differences. Like the antenna test I just did. But your test here very clearly shows the difference. Would love to seen done with some more antenna.

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      HELLO, DoneRacer101!

  • @BOYDELL2013
    @BOYDELL2013 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the moment i've been waiting for bruce to explain between power and gain... nice one bruce!

  • @DerHeizmeister
    @DerHeizmeister 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for sharing this valuable knowledge with us, Bruce! Now this is exactly why I like your channel so much!

  • @mktwatcher
    @mktwatcher 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent demonstration of the distribution of transmitter power when using omni directional anntennas.

  • @DC-iy6hi
    @DC-iy6hi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't have an RC plane/drone, but still found this really helpful for general RF theory. Thank you for uploading

  • @samcollins6394
    @samcollins6394 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As always Bruce another amazingly informative video. Thank you so much for everything you do for this hobby and in sharing all your knowledge and experience. Long may it continue xx

  • @alderfield8682
    @alderfield8682 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great to have you back looking forward to the build video.

  • @tthtlc
    @tthtlc 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you...i learned something: isotropic antenna and why u need it. And your presentation is very addictive, the more I listen the more question I have, and leading to me listening more of it.

  • @MrJr298
    @MrJr298 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bruce you are the best.Better then the rest.No matter what they say.Thank you!I think we need to educate ourselves on the subject of frequencies in order to keep the hobbyist of FPV alive.Thank you!

  • @echobeefpv8530
    @echobeefpv8530 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great timing. My group is currently trying to get our best signals and powers so we can fly together. As one of the guys tasked with understanding this stuff, your videos lay it out in a way I can understand. Thanks Bruce !!

  • @qs138v3
    @qs138v3 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bruce you are an incredible teacher

  • @duckslave
    @duckslave 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Bruce! Glad you made it back to the whiteboard - I’m using two five-turn helicals on my diversity goggles - pointed about 60 degrees away from each other. Marvelous range and coverage!!!

  • @VinsPol247
    @VinsPol247 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You just taught me a lot of important things that I never heard of, but really needed to know. Thank you!

  • @torritoist
    @torritoist 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brilliant discussion, Bruce! Thank you!

  • @jabawarescienartistry6261
    @jabawarescienartistry6261 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mate thanks for all this information! Fellow NZ fpv'er here 🖖😌👌 may the force be with you! Always

  • @lestergillis8171
    @lestergillis8171 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am a short wave DXer. So I find your dissertation on RF propagation to be informative. Please continue.

  • @sebastiansombra
    @sebastiansombra 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, perfect balance between technical information and practical explanations. Now I understand much better about antennas!

  • @Hamm3rJack
    @Hamm3rJack ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy should be teaching classes! Great energy and inspiring way to teach.

  • @akmtl
    @akmtl 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is such a great video! I can't believe there are dingbats out there who disliked it. What is there to dislike? Someone is taking their time to educate and explain (really well!) a fairly complex area of RF communications. Well done mate and thank you. Looking forward to more videos!

  • @lilgeico7113
    @lilgeico7113 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for everything you do Bruce your the reason I got into this hobby. Keep on kicking

  • @fernandoschuindt1665
    @fernandoschuindt1665 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm not a RC person (yet), but I'm learning to get my HAM license, so these videos help me a lot, thanks professor!

    • @diomedes39
      @diomedes39 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s why I’m here and his instruction is invaluable!

  • @uavpilot6715
    @uavpilot6715 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Theory is always good, I've learned something new today. Thanks Bruce!

  • @nated1971
    @nated1971 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m about to start my junior year for Electrical Engineering with a focus on RF. These are great videos, thanks!

  • @mindslyder404
    @mindslyder404 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your explanation. I've been trying to understand this for awhile in been looking at videos that do not explain it the way you do.

  • @Lundev_
    @Lundev_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great video as always ! Keep up the good work.

  • @danielhowsare778
    @danielhowsare778 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is great Bruce. I admit I was power hungry, this really puts it into perspective.

  • @jeffvenable3845
    @jeffvenable3845 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im looking forward to making my own! Thanks Bruce!

  • @owen7185
    @owen7185 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent demonstration.

  • @fpvdave
    @fpvdave 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video Bruce, now looking forward to your build video of those two antennae.

  • @damienkrohse3374
    @damienkrohse3374 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll be waiting for that antenna build video. Great video and explanation.

  • @GiffysChannel
    @GiffysChannel 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This channel is everything I was looking for and more.

  • @timwsac
    @timwsac 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was a very educational video Bruce I look forward's to the antenna build thanks

  • @Not_So_Weird_in_Austin
    @Not_So_Weird_in_Austin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks some of the best explanation of antenna theory and practice also applicable outside of the RC hobby

  • @horstknatter9823
    @horstknatter9823 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best teacher ever! Greetz from Germany 🙂

  • @DoubleA_AMAfpv
    @DoubleA_AMAfpv 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am excited to learn more and build. Can't wait. Thanks Bruce!

  • @TheVapingFPV
    @TheVapingFPV 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bruce is a genius! Best educational videos on the tubes

  • @franciswong26
    @franciswong26 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh my god! I learn something today. Your explanation is simple and neat. I see you got a lot of explanation video and I'm going to watch one by one definitely. Thank you for your effort!

  • @rong4248
    @rong4248 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking forward to the build video! Great job as always and thank you

  • @lasersbee
    @lasersbee 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Waiting in anticipation for the DIY Helical antenna build Video.

  • @hansleatherby1032
    @hansleatherby1032 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Bruce - white board power!
    Cant wait to build the helical antenna

  • @gs-mt8zd
    @gs-mt8zd 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another awesome white board lesson. Thanks Bruce.

  • @navigator902
    @navigator902 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOVE a good white board video in the morning.....All right.... got my tea... ready.....Got it Bruce.... Thanks Mate...

  • @shaneg5353
    @shaneg5353 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative, thanks for the video. Looking forward to the DIY helical antenna video.

  • @rohansully584
    @rohansully584 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video Bruce. You deserve a subscription. I'm keen for that helical build video!

  • @slembcke
    @slembcke 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for another great whiteboard video! Even though I was already aware of the content this time, it was still amusing as always.

  • @AlexGoldMTB
    @AlexGoldMTB 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's the best lecture in my life! Wish you were my teacher at the university!

  • @kiliclimber2001
    @kiliclimber2001 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bruce...from North Carolina/Puerto Rico....thank you.!! amazing video.

  • @iitra
    @iitra 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bruce without you we would be sheep following the crowd thank you for this fantastic video again you make this hobby so much easier to get a fantastic result 👍🏻👍🏻and you 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

  • @ivangutowski
    @ivangutowski 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Bruce, Its been about a year since I was watching your videos but got back into quads this summer. Another great video and glad to see you are busy flying as always. Thanks again !
    Also I love that you have a 'head tracking head' 10:40

  • @eightfivezerobraxton5509
    @eightfivezerobraxton5509 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great videos! helped me understand the remote control system used on the locomotives I work on as I am an electrician with no RF background knowledge !

  • @JuanOrtiz-hj6ei
    @JuanOrtiz-hj6ei 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello from California! Great information and video. Thank you so much.

  • @GroundControlRC
    @GroundControlRC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great information! I typically use a 50mw SP Antenna on the transmitter an receiver and fly close proximity (within 200m) and very rarely get video drop-outs. Yes, I would much rather use a better antenna and save that battery power for flight. Thanks for the video and Happy Flying!

  • @briankoch7041
    @briankoch7041 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The fcc is after hobbyking for selling transmitters that produce power levels beyond 1w (1000mw) and can broadcast on non approved frequencies. The majority of us purchase and use products with in the the fcc limits. It is a thing but not the end of the world thing for most of us.
    Bruce, you're awesome.

  • @fistedfpv2922
    @fistedfpv2922 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thankyou for being in this hobby

  • @theolm
    @theolm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow
    I really missed your videos.
    Very informative and easy to understand. Good job!
    Ps. Every time a friend ask me about pid I sent your video.

  • @benavitchvonsurfalotte3940
    @benavitchvonsurfalotte3940 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bring on the antenna build video!! Also, can you do a vid on the ways in which objects between the vtx and rx affect the video reception and how best to overcome them?

  • @scooterpie1143
    @scooterpie1143 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cant wait for the how to video! I would like build one today. Thank you..

  • @BMSWEB
    @BMSWEB 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the balloon analogy!!

  • @stubanshuberi8793
    @stubanshuberi8793 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes yes yes!!! I understand now what to look for when buying/making antennas and it wasn’t that hard to understand....now I’m off to your other video on how to make and antenna

  • @NOVAENGINS9252
    @NOVAENGINS9252 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    VERY informative I really like this type of videos you make

  • @donjohnson2639
    @donjohnson2639 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking forward to the antenna build!👍🛩🛠

  • @Conta_Google
    @Conta_Google 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a very good job you did here!!!

  • @srinaths.bhaumik5000
    @srinaths.bhaumik5000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am able to understand your concepts since I am a licensed aeronautical radiotelephone (restricted) user and I have studied various concepts related to radios. I also have a lot of interest in networking.

  • @joetaylor486
    @joetaylor486 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video Bruce! Thanks 😀

  • @lowtus7
    @lowtus7 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Camera image is looking really good today. And as always a great vid!

  • @therealmikief1
    @therealmikief1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love learning from you Bruce. Can't wait to build a helical with you!

  • @RandomlySelectedUserName
    @RandomlySelectedUserName ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the way you explain.
    Thanks

  • @neojeets
    @neojeets 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, Bruce. Love the dry erase lessons! 👍

  • @frenchy3532
    @frenchy3532 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great as usual ! Can't wait to make my own helical antenna !

  • @exexgr6897
    @exexgr6897 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice and simple explain. Thx for another great review

  • @yodayedi2325
    @yodayedi2325 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are great, thanks for this vid, great information, very symphatic. Didn´t know this stuff.
    Wish you the best and keep on.

  • @tilmar120
    @tilmar120 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliantly explained. Thank you.

  • @kiwiforever3604
    @kiwiforever3604 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Bruce, that helped me lots.

  • @paulinfrance5
    @paulinfrance5 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The usual great stuff, thanks Bruce !

  • @thevideoark
    @thevideoark 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Exelent lesson. Thanks Bruce.

  • @richardraji
    @richardraji 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You So much! You just helped solve a problem in my product

  • @ponowai1
    @ponowai1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks mate, looking forward to making an antenna with you.

  • @gps-gps
    @gps-gps 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking forward to your build video.

  • @_BangDroid_
    @_BangDroid_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was really easy to understand

  • @ivanellis3198
    @ivanellis3198 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Looking forward to the making helicoils one 👍

  • @analog56x
    @analog56x 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    the antenna was the problem the whole time! dang... i could never get far with my 200mw setup, but i was running an omni on my rx... if/when i get back into rc flight, ill have to get a helical and see (haha) what difference it makes :) cheers Bruce! thanks for the video!

  • @AvivMakesRobots
    @AvivMakesRobots 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I seriously need to design you a housing for those antennas... Great video!

  • @eg5160
    @eg5160 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video. I've heard plenty on helical's, but never explained as well as you have! I'm just getting into fpv and I probably have one of those HK vtx's in question, although I do believe it can be set to a lower power to keep things "under the radar"

  • @stelic9515
    @stelic9515 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This so true
    I changed my quad vtx because become defective. So I decided to buy one that is 500mw( the old one was 100 mw) and I don't feel any real gain ( only more heat ) Antenna is most important
    Thanks for great information

  • @pjwlk
    @pjwlk 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another awesome video - Thanks so much!

  • @andyleigh343
    @andyleigh343 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much for a very understandable informative video!!!!

  • @dronealone5651
    @dronealone5651 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the white board ! ...& Bruce is likeable as well.

  • @brainlesstechie5490
    @brainlesstechie5490 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    First Video i have seen and i subscribed !! Brilliance

  • @rickjames8897
    @rickjames8897 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cant wait for the antenna build!

  • @MrDoneboy
    @MrDoneboy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I fly model rockets, but your info is grand, Bruce!

  • @HaraldLabout
    @HaraldLabout 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Thanks.

  • @mattyboy47
    @mattyboy47 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Bruce , great informative video of which I learned more, so thanks! I have a question. When using directional antennas, I've been wondering if it would theoretically be possible to produce an OSD which might put an indicator on the screen, advising you which way to turn your body to optimise your position in relation to your model in flight? I know nothing of whether this can be created, but think it would be a great tool to use in this scenario? Any electronics wizards think this is possible? The idea has been kicking around my mind for ages. Cheers!